Luncheon Presentation, Dr. Michael Eric Dyson

Luncheon Presentation, Dr. Michael Eric Dyson

[@jermainereed9143]

I very much enjoyed hosting Dr. Dyson this year. I look forward to having him back next year on May 23, 2024. You all feel free to join us.

[@MrQuent63]

Excellent, I just love Dr. Michael Eric Dyson ❤️ 😊

[@carltsmithjr8763]

beautiful beautiful beautiful n enlightening. thank u

[@echad6259]

Preach!

[@jesusislordsavior6343]

I know that Mr. Dyson is a minister, but this is not the pulpit kind of preaching. Lots of good points, but his stereotyping of evangelicals is both unfair and inaccurate. He should check and see how many millions of 'evangelicals' live in sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America, the Caribbean, etc. Early Christianity made inroads among the SLAVE class. The country which sends out the most Christian missionaries per capita is not the USA, but South Korea. The world's biggest churches are in Seoul. If Mr. Dyson wants to equate evangelicalism with fascism, he had better explain the historical connection, and he's going to have a mighty hard time doing it. However in your country, Democrats call people they dislike 'fascists', where as Republicans call people they don't like 'communists'. I must be specially privileged, because people have been called both, the best centrist credential there is.

[@believeit1234]

Well, well, well, it appears universities will label just about anyone a "doctor" nowadays.

[@siriuslyspeaking9720]

Around 14:40 Dyson made a comment about those who are old enough to remember the 70's. He is surely old enough to remember the 80's, when Hip-Hop had a campaign against violence and songs like 'We're Headed For Self-Destruction' were made. He forgets this when he constantly says that Black people shouldn't make public statements like 'Black on Black crime'. He says to say this makes us look "pathological". Surely, he had no problem with the campaign against violence that Hip-Hop had nor objected to songs that spoke to the self-defeating behavior some of us engage in, to the detriment of themselves and all of us in our communities. What is the difference in the message that is sent between saying we're headed for self-destruction and calling killing one another at a high disproportionate rate, under the situation and condition we are in, a crime? Can anyone answer that? Those who say we shouldn't talk like this won't answer that question. They pretend not to hear it. So why now, does he and others he seems to have influenced to follow his thinking, have this dismissive/indifferent attitude, toward our lives - the value we place on them? This is an obvious shift and we as a group have ignored it. Do the majority of us have this new attitude or are we a silent majority concerning this matter? Have things gotten this way because intellectuals and activist have in their rhetoric taken all responsibility of our condition and placed it on the external forces of racism in all its forms and government? This is another contradiction in that these same people talk about us as being resilient, spiritual, creative, even magical, yet also are promoting the idea that we are traumatized not just by real time continuous trauma we inflict on ourselves especially, but by trauma that is supposedly pasted down through genes. This latter trauma seems to suggest it is more damaging, since so much attention is being given to this newfound trauma. These people speaking publicly as if they represent the feelings and sentiments of all or the majority of us are engaging in intellectual dishonesty. None will refute the arguments made here. They know where an honest debate would lead to. They entertain themselves with this repetitive rhetoric that has presided over a steady decline in the quality of life among those worst off among us, but will never admit to the complicity from them and us as a group in this decline. They have the attitude that to ask even the basic responsibilities be lived up to from us, is to blame the victim. They were held to more than a basic standard and they don't allow their children the excuses they make for us in general. They seem to not be able to accept honest criticism and challenges to their positions, yet they are dishing out criticism as if expelling oxygen from their lungs. It all seems a show. It is apt that there is now the term 'Performative Blackness' because that is what Dyson especially engages in. His accomplishments as a philosopher and author seem not enough to satisfy his ego. He must have missed his calling. He should have been an actor or singer/rapper. This criticism sounds harsh, but maybe that too has some psychological reasons behind it. Where is the practical application of all this talk of trauma and other mental disorders? Why is the possibility that a White child will naturally develop at least subconsciously the notion that they are superior to Black people having seen the disparity between the two as they age, and the reverse be true for a Black child? This might explain 'White Privilege' among Whites and "Self-Hate" among some Black people. It may explain why some Black children don't apply themselves in school. They may subconsciously feel inadequate around White people and don't want to subject themselves to it for the rest of their lives. If we are going to entertain theories, are we on the other hand policing ourselves, in terms of the questions we are willing to allow to be ask? Why are Intellectuals and activist ignoring challenges to their positions? Are the masses of Black people really paying attention to the internal divided discourse taking place among us? Are we as a group really trying to find solutions, if we are doing this?

[@claudejackson1555]

You should write a book on your subject matter, this comment is way too long I didn't bother to finish it, but write a book and I may pick up a copy to see what you have to say.

[@jesusislordsavior6343]

As the politicians so often say, 'Let me be clear'. I am NOT American, and I belong to a BIRACIAL, believing household. I listened to several minutes of the speech, taking it all in, expecting to agree with about 85 percent of what might say. I found his verbal discipline better than usual; he does have a reputation for flowery language. I liked the down-home touch. But then he threw a looping curveball. What is this about 'white evangelical neo-fascist outlook'? I know of whom and what he speaks, but still the remark is deeply offensive on mre than one level. As a professing Christian and a famous public figure, Mr. Dyson should be careful not to stereotype or revile fellow-believers. Like it or not, we belong to the same family. 1. What is the ROOT of the word 'evangelical'? Evangelion, Gospel, God News. The coming, the serving, the dying, and the rising of JESUS is UNALLOYED GOOD NEWS. Nothing remotely 'neo-fascist' about it. You, sir, if you are trusting in CHRIST and not in the machinations of mere men, have more than one evangelical bone in your body. 2. 'Evangelicals' like the British politician William Wilberforce, along with many women who campaigned for Abolition in an era when the did not have the vote, were instrumental in ending British slavery 30 years before Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation. Can we not trace the roots f Abolitionism back to the Apostle Paul, who recommended that slaves should take their freedom if the opportunity arose. 3. As for Black inclusion in the people of God, Moses married an Ethiopian wman in his latter years, and when his sister Miriam complained, God struck her with leprosy. Only through Moses' prayers was she forgiven and restored. Now if in Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free man, male nor female (see Galatians 3:28), perhaps it safe to extraplate a little. Perhaps in Christ there is neither black nor white. And what about the mixed-race folks? Don't they count? Or must they be apprpriated according to the 'one -drop rule' or some other man-made, socially coercive principle which hides true diversity? EVANGELICALS who dare to look beyond the walls of prefabricated history will find plenty to celebrate. But as Jesus said, 'WITHOUT ME YOU CAN DO NOTHING.' Neither politicians nor secular do-gooders are going to bring about the Kingdom of God. P.S. Mr. Dyson, PLEASE read a scholarly source on the subject of Fascism. US Republicans revile it as a left-wing ideology, Democrats as a right-wing ideology. Reality is more cmplicated. I learned a lot about fascism frm Zeev Sternhell, the Israeli historian.

[@kennethyoung2221]

One of the greatest race grifters of our time.

[@jesusislordsavior6343]

There should be a road somewhere between (a) endless victimhood, and (b) denial that anything wrong or unpleasant ever happened. As a non-American 'evangelical' and member ofo a biracial family, I couldn't stand his remark about 'white evangelical neo-fascist attitudes'. He shuld check out the number of 'evangelicals' in sub-Saharan Africa, Latin American, and other parts f the Global South. He shuld get up to speed.