Lupe Fiasco vs. Kendrick Lamar "Kendrick Isn't an Elite Lyricist"

Lupe Fiasco vs. Kendrick Lamar "Kendrick Isn't an Elite Lyricist"
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Lupe Fiasco vs. Kendrick Lamar "Kendrick Isn't an Elite Lyricist" Is Lupe telling the truth or is he just jealous? Everyone paying through Patreon, Paypal and Thought Crimez World monthly will be able to see all of our documentaries, mini-docs and other exclusive content through Thought Crimez World. 3 Day Free Trial Tunnel Vizion www.tunnelvizion.network/?_ga=... The videos will appear on exclusive pages on Thought Crimez World, along with Tunnel Vizion for those with subscriptions. Any Patron who is paying 5 dollars or more will be able to see exclusive content free on Thought Crimez World, that applies to those who pay monthly on Pay Pal as well and of course those on Tunnel Vizion can see exclusive content there as well. All of this can also be viewed on people's phone since we have a Thought Crimez World app that allows you to view Tunnel Vizion content on our app to. Patreon www.patreon.com/Thought_Crimez Tunnel Vizion www.tunnelvizion.network/ Paypal www.paypal.com/donate/?token=... Thought Crimez World Plan www.sentrylogin.com/sentry/me...

[@Kiyan3100]

Thought Crimez he's telling the truth, kendrick is an average lyricist

[@restfulmeditationforyou397]

Thought Crimez I have to know who lupe has battled? Who has lupe went head up with? We know Duckworth is with the shit. But if Lupe hasn’t had any note worthy battles then where do we see this being competitive? Maybe I’m tripping. Idk anymore!

[@Kiyan3100]

seven grow7 Duckworth is with the shit? He never responded to a single control verse response and has yet to respond to Montana 300 or papoose, all he does is subliminally diss big Sean and drake, so tell me, how is kendrick "with the shit"? I believe lupe is more with the shit then kendrick would ever be unlike kendrick lupe isn't an industry plant don't believe the hype

[@resetmindset6176]

Thought Crimez 2pac never said he was the best he said he was the realist

[@herivaldoagostinho1694]

@@Kiyan3100 😂😂😂😂😂😂 in Your Dreams

[@LetsGoUp008]

That control verse still got rappers hot

[@LetsGoUp008]

I hear king los has been throwing subliminals to

[@DreamingAstro]

It's not about punchlines anymore. Lil Wayne shit out punchlines like crazy but that's not what we want. We want substance.

[@redpillproductions7187]

Clifton Haralson nah punchlines still matters tho. I agree wit substance 💯 but PLs should be accounted for as well

[@jfraz1992]

Clifton Haralson facts

[@parmar__12]

Lil Wayne>Kendrick No matter what you say

[@gs4l968]

Clifton Haralson Thank you brother...they just don't get it.

[@i.m.6758]

Straight up Lupe is a better lyricist than Kendrick. You gotta hear Lupes discography he goes in. Lupe was supposed to be Kendrick but he didn’t play by the rules.

[@uplift204]

Marcell Lymuel that's the truth..he shouldn't sound bitter though. He came out at a different time and hip hop back then was not really ready for him (his fans were) you where ether gangsta or Kanya back then. I still think Lupe had the best response to the control verse but no one even talks about it...

[@ItsAnEndlessWorld]

Marcell Lymuel Facts

[@bmore24t56]

Lupe started putting out terrible work.. yes he's had some good projects but also had some bad ones.

[@macmanjr100]

Bmore24 t well when you're not in control of what you put out that happens

[@neverstar22]

Kendrick is no where near the greatest.

[@illexpreshun]

Lupe Fiasco's Mural, lyrically, is the new gold standard as for innovation of the art form. If you know Lupe at all, you know he dgaf about mainstream clout. He hates it... And everyone it. Not because he didn't get the notoriety you think he wants, he hated it because it's filled with superficial vultures that love the business of music more than the actual music. The ppl that care about gossip & news cycles more than the music. He's a lyricist. A rapper's rapper. With the likes of MF DOOM, Aesop Rock, Pharaoh Monch, Kool Keith, Slug, Black Thought, Loaded Lux & battle rappers, etc. These rappers are different. They care about the art form & how to break a word down to every syllable. So bringing up that typical "they jealous of album sales or that they couldn't cut it in the mainstream or mc so & so took your lane" is based on your own assumptions. Cause its only industry talking heads that are under the assumption these rappers have cared about any of that clout in their careers. You think Madvillany, The Cold Vein, Violent By Design, Re:Clear Blue Skies, Labor Days, Below the Heavens, Overcast, 3rd Eye Visions, Deltron 3030, etc. were made for the masses? Your assumptions of why any rapper Is vexed is so surface level and sounds like a reflection of what yall put on a pedestal and frankly it sounds like naive, teenager music IQ. And that's clean & all... I just thought I'd be able to hold yall opinions to a higher level. And tell dude he is not funny. Ya roast game shakey & is too drunk, country uncle.

[@MrMb889]

You said with like likes of MF DOOM, makes your hole statement irrelevant lupe no where near MF DOOM

[@illexpreshun]

Meershyam Bappoo yeah he is.

[@ItsAnEndlessWorld]

mattgotjokes I wish I could like this comment more than once, very well said.

[@illexpreshun]

Meitantei Tris ✊✊✊

[@TS-rp7dz]

@@MrMb889 He absolutely is. The only thing DOOM has on Lupe is his rhyming ability. Lupe Fiasco is the best lyricist to ever grace the mic.

[@slowdownthere4802]

Concerning "Kendrick isn't an Elite Lyricist".... *No lies detected* however high sodium levels found in Lupe.

[@tonys9796]

jman exe lol, Sodium bicarbonate!!! 😂😂😂

[@ariesone3221]

Hahahaahaa...

[@melvinslaughter7685]

Lupe honestly sounds like a hater,dude said Logic was better than Kendrick,and to me that's just insane

[@jirrelljohnson3328]

Melvin Slaughter Having an opinion that differs from the majority doesn't make you a hater. That dumb ass logic needs to be thrown away.

[@melvinslaughter7685]

Jirrell Johnson I understand it's an opinion,but it's a silly one lol,logic is good,but not better than Kendrick..calm down bro

[@erickiam25]

If Lupe was smart he would have collaborated on the album

[@mjwillgotskills]

A lot of people just focus on the name dropping in Kendrick's "control" verse and ignore the fact that the entire verse is quotable and laced with punchlines. Go listen again.

[@KontryBoy706]

Lupe would wash Kendrick. Shit wouldn’t be fair lol. Lupe ain’t for play

[@TheCuttyBrown]

Very true

[@ItsAnEndlessWorld]

KontryBoy706 No lie

[@tokyoinooshi4836]

It's weird that I'm not more excited about this "battle". The two are great but for some reason this doesn't make me happy. Kind of wish they would team up and get some of these other clowns out of here. But hey we'll see what happen.

[@orlandocalder1645]

Tokyo Inooshi thats exactly how i feel man

[@ObeyAmmalol]

The control verse that is wack and overhyped yet you are still talking about it in 2018 🤔🤔

[@jirrelljohnson3328]

Obey Amma because ppl still mention it to him

[@kungfukennytde6065]

Obey Amma Right

[@jfraz1992]

Obey Amma facts

[@slowdownthere4802]

>_>.... uhhh, that is literally the definition of OVERHYPED. Something that gets more praise than it should, like that verse. It's overhyped.

[@omaralkarnos4488]

Word

[@melvinslaughter7685]

Does a rapper necessarily needs a lot of punchlines and double to be considered good??

[@erickiam25]

Melvin Slaughter punchlines can get tired ! Especially if that’s all you have .

[@melvinslaughter7685]

erickiam25 but in your opinion does a rapper necessarily need those two things

[@erickiam25]

Melvin Slaughter no

[@aldialad]

Kendrick said "it aint all bout punch lines I dont do that"

[@Kickinthescience]

Melvin Slaughter no you can say simple words but can have depth to it

[@gunner0479]

Also kendrick was very punchline heavy on his early mixtapes, he then started to focus more on storytelling, concepts and song writing which is why he had made phenomenal albums. Lupe said he was introduced to kendrick after section 80. Which means he hasn't heard all his other projects

[@herivaldoagostinho1694]

Agrée

[@bejitah]

If Lupe goes at it with Kendrick. He might have to dumb down his material for the average rap fan to have him coming out as the winner. Unless he only cares what die hard hip hop heads think. Plus he's at some what of a disadvantage due to Kendrick being at his zenith, popularity wise.

[@alirads]

Lupe called out Kendrick and Kendrick backed down. Simple as that. If Kendrick keeps this up he better find a new profession. You can't be the king without defending the throne.

[@MrMb889]

Ummmm wtf are you on about?

[@yaonabi]

Kendrick used to do a lot of punchlines especially on his "Training Day" and "C4" mixtape. But now he's better at making songs and telling stories.

[@reekhigh5789]

Bruh I said the exact same thing. Listen to "Day Dream" or "Kurupted" and tell me he aint got bars.

[@yaonabi]

Reek High fr

[@parmar__12]

Mention those punchlines I'm just curious

[@Based_Proletariat]

Tetsuo and Youth was Lupes comeback album after a few weak albums...then he followed up with a weak one with Drogas Light. Solo, I think you are referring to Justin Hunte aka The Company Man who said Tetsuo and Youth was a underrated classic.

[@ThoughtCrimez]

Mr. Bullet Club Biggz The Verbal Assassin Thank you. - P

[@EagleZtoTheGrave]

Mr. Bullet Club Biggz The Verbal Assassin Drogas Light was done on purpose though to catch ears, it was a face value album. Now he's working his way backward with Drogas Wave and Skulls.

[@superdupeninja8149]

I like T and Y

[@tokyoinooshi4836]

I just hope the BP soundtrack will also have a lot of Africa artist. I meant he is African and this would be a great chance to let the artist of the country shine in a big way. I want that African vibe on there too

[@lupethekilla4200]

I won’t stand for no type of Lupe Fiasco slander..

[@Triggathegodfather]

I agree with Lupe. I'm a fan of Kendrick but I never thought he was a top teir lyricist. His strong points are his flow, delivery, and ability to tell stories and come up with concepts. Rappers like Eminem, Royce, Crooked I, Lupe, Black Thought are far superior lyrically.

[@shawnorjiakor]

Rome Wise Kendrick could keep up with some of these MCs.

[@herivaldoagostinho1694]

What Fuck ? Kendrick Is very Top Tier Lyricist… You Is buggin

[@toonsgowild]

I feel like lupe is one of the most underrated rappers most of his albums has been phenomenal and I don’t agree with everything he says but he is passionate about rap and jay electronica is a waste of lyrical talent like he was what I call a “limited edition rapper” since he barely released music but when he did it was something special and was a big buzz in the rap game

[@slowdownthere4802]

I know which person you're talking about "Why Lupe Fiasco's T&Y is underrated" Prince, seen that video myself. I'll say this, the reason it was overlooked on the grand scale was because TPAB came out the same year around the same time and the hype around it grabbed the masses attention. T&Y was a side note before it had a chance to be digested. On the Kendrick vs Lupe note, Kendrick's MAD solid as a Lyricist, but he don't want smoke with Lupe.

[@manemane2214]

No matter how far you go ,you will reflect me

[@uplift204]

The Control verse was whyyyyyy over rated. People acted like GOD had spoken when it dropped but it really naaa.

[@isaacdebeila8085]

the control verse hit when people were saying hip hop died and kendrick said they need to lift the bar/standard... which was the thinking of back than which gave kdot the tag savior of rap and its had every rap shook or feeling some kind of way since than

[@aoe1586]

Fiasco v Lamar 2018 Big Sean v His Cornball Bars as the under card

[@jamesgibson3716]

Put them both in the ring and let's get it!!!! Let's not forget that genuine "freestyle" Lupe did on Sway in the morning....

[@Bootsy704]

I like both of them. It's good for the culture. Maybe we'll get a Control 2

[@siriusshabazz7746]

If anybody can talk about lyrics it's Lupe. In my opinion he's the best lyricist of all time, not the best rapper but definitely the best lyricist.

[@V-aGa]

Jacob Shabazz facts

[@trinidadonassis7411]

Lupe=Elite MC, K.Dot=Elite Artist. This isn't a slight to either one of them. Lupe, like many MCs today unfortunately, doesn't get his just due from the masses. Hip-hop heads know his work, but the group thought contingency who is constantly propping up a Lil, has no clue. Kendrick Lamar is nice but I wouldn't rate him lyrically above a Crooked I. Now as an overall artist? Different story.

[@redpillproductions7187]

Trinidad Onassis Lupe's art is vastly overlooked too. Honestly he's been held back by his label which is fkn sad becuz Lupe been "woke"

[@dre_rocstar3k386]

Trinidad Onassis I can agree with this, I think Kendrick is more about balance though, he’s not overly skilled in one criteria.

[@trinidadonassis7411]

andre harvey I think an analogy for Kendrick would be like Pac. Pac lyrically wasn't the most technical MC, but all the other intangibles, he checked the box. Charisma, impact, message in his songs, the larger than life persona and he could rap. Now before anyone jumps out the window, I'm not talking down on Pac or saying Kendrick is Pac, but the similarities as being a complete artist are there. Compare that with Ruck, elite MC, but he wasn't there to be the cover of a magazine artist. He was an Elite MC that would bar your ass to death. It's kinda like how some people are just now getting around to acknowledging. Black Thought as an Elite MC and in the discussion of GOAT. Hip-Hop headz, we been knowing. The masses in my opinion must have thought he was a gimmick, "oh a rapper in a band, that's different.", not realizing he getting 99% of these rappers up out the paint. Yet as far as mass appeal goes, he will never get that just due that he deserves. No light bars with Thought, he would have to dumb it down on a large scale just to get that recognition from the group thought contingency.

[@221ddj]

100% true. The Group thought contingency is what deems people like Drake and Kanye lyrical Gods...meanwhile the guy in the 3rd floor, 1 bedroom walk-up crafting their songs gets no love. Lupe started as an elite MC with the mixtapes and those made his first two releases seem weak. Kendrick is getting better with no label issues and far better production. I'd posit that if Lupe had the behind the scenes push from a Dre type that Kendrick got, he'd be considered top 3 by the same group think contingency that dismisses him now.

[@trinidadonassis7411]

221ddj Glad you brought up Drake and Kanye. Kanye as a producer, specifically his older work, deserves its due. However when I hear people saying he has a classic album??? As a rapper? And you ain't writing your shit? Now the group thought contingency will bring up Dre, but we never considered him as a rapper or MC. Super producer minus those wack Em albums, ok, but it never got twisted that lyrically he was someone of note. Drake, same boat. The second Meek Mill exposed that he wasn't writing his own shit, for me and others who that's a big mf deal, he was out the door. Yet group thought there to save the day with all of the lame Meek Mill and L's jokes. Thank goodness Budden 4-0 swept Drakes ass up out the paint. We haven't heard him with any of that best rapper alive bullshit since. Now as for Lupe, you are correct. He doesn't have that machine behind him like Kendrick. Again, no knock against Kendrick but that shit makes a difference. Another prime example of that making a difference...BIG KRIT. His and Lupe's story and trajectory almost mirror each other. This generation missed the boat completely on two of the better MCs of this era and Hip-Hop as a whole is paying for it. If Atlantic and Def Jam did their damn job like they seem to be able to do with a Lil, things might be different.

[@tonys9796]

These two need to drop this!!!

[@erickiam25]

Lupe jealous

[@theuniqueoneable]

I was waiting for yall to say something about this lol

[@Kyky01010]

I agree that Verse was overhyped it was just big cause he said names. A lot of MCs and fans have now came out and finally have said it was just the names that made that verse.

[@gunner0479]

Kyky 101 that's not even one of kendricks best verses though. It is overhyped but who cares?. That verse is not what makes kendrick great. It was a big moment because there was no competitive nature in hiphop for a while and he still bodied jay elec ad big sean and made his point

[@BlackGodKing-oi2gr]

Lupe is better there’s no debate it’s just that Kendrick has a better career overall as an Hip Hop Artist

[@TheKondinho]

Because of Dr. Dre.

[@EagleZtoTheGrave]

finallynb Think I can agree. Look at Justin Huntes breakdown, if his dude Chilly never went to jail and they got together with Jay-Z, I can only imagine the damage he could've done.

[@dhilt241]

finallynb Dre produced parts of one Kendrick album lol

[@TheKondinho]

Darrel Hilt not talking about making beats. I’m talking about executive production. Overseeing the projects. Knowing what’s needed to get the job done.

[@dhilt241]

finallynb even then I don't think that's all on Dre

[@mosthighchosen614]

Kendrick Lamar ain't fuccin with Lupe. Flat out. And I've always said the same shit... That control verse was highly overrated. Honestly, bars for bars, there's probably only 3-5 emcees in all of hip hop that could actually match Lupe. And that's IF it's even 3-5!

[@BlackGodKing-oi2gr]

Most High child I would say MF Doom, Los, Canibus, Pharoah Monch, Black Thought, Nas, Rakim, there’s more but I can’t think of any

[@gdiggedy9]

Yes! The Control verse is very overrated. It was hyped up cuz he rattled off a few artists by name. There wasn't one dope subliminal or punch in that verse. Can't remember one line from it.

[@theodavis7517]

The fact that people are still talking about the Control verse, proves that it is not as overrated as you think.

[@TalentedKamarty]

They both on my top 10 of all time so its hard lol but this would be dope ass battle. Keep it hip hop tho. I just think Lupe want smoke. So does Kendrick he been waiting to battle for the longest lol Sidenote: I think Lupe just challenging him n trolling lol plus his new album on the way so this would be great promo if they lyrically went at it

[@chosenelite762]

I think straight up bar for bar lupe would win but Kendrick makes better music overall....they both dope AF they should work together

[@jeremyseven9468]

shadowkingz76 they already are, lol

[@MrMb889]

can you tell me one line lupe has said that is better then anything kendrick has put out?

[@nightnday6675]

Meershyam Bappoo Your trying to compare punchlines. A better comparison would be verse by verse when it comes to artwork.. He said, nobody else ever loved him That's why he get high enough to go touch the heavens above him Vividly remembers every pipe, every needle that stuck him Every alley he ever slept in, every purse that he snuck in Every level of hell he's been to, and the one that he's stuck in The one he can't escape, even though it's of his own construction Maybe you can relate, maybe you one of those that just doesn't Maybe he doesn't care, loves to allow these demons to come in -Intruder Alert (The Cool)

[@TheKondinho]

i think the music argument is down to their grooming. Kendrick had a musical sensei in Dr. Dre who groomed him to what he is today. Whereas Lupe has just been by himself the whole time (with Atlantic bullshitting him along the way). If Lupe had Dre grooming him he'd make music that's just as good as Kendrick's.

[@sportobsessivebryant3336]

Night NDay ......👎

[@selfallwell6791]

Kendrick don’t want to see lupe Lupe is an elite artist one of the best just go play his song “burger with cheese” Kendrick is nice but nothing on lupe level

[@herivaldoagostinho1694]

Buggin

[@malcolmmcflytv]

Imma need Lupe to get that Iodine out of his diet...Not a good look homie...West West

[@jinkazamalovnat]

T&Y is a classic. GKMC and Untitled Unmastered are the only K dot projects that I like.

[@rashawnjordan1307]

Also, great animated promotion for black spot. Imma need an anime soon lol

[@kevingrah32]

As long as your lyrics have meaning; everybody ain't gone be Lupe or rap like him... that shit would drive me crazy. Kendrick is top tier, and I would've forgotten about the "Control" verse by now if rappers would let it go. Lupe could attack so many artist in the game, why K.Dot. Wack move Lu... Lupe drying up

[@kungfukennytde6065]

Has Lupe ever went head to head before? Like straight beef

[@BlackGodKing-oi2gr]

TopDawgEnt970 TopDawgEnt970 No he hasn’t but neither has Kendrick

[@kungfukennytde6065]

BlackGod King1995 it was a real question I wasn’t trying to throw shade

[@sincerexhampton]

Kendrick may not be a Top Tier lyricist but many rappers and top tier lyricist can't structure great projects and songs like Kendrick. It's well known that top tier lyricist struggle tremendously in those areas for example: King Los Big L Papoose Joell Ortiz Royce da 5'9 just to name a few. So at the end of the day most Top tier lyricist would die for a discography as good as Kendrick's, they only great at freestyles and cyphers

[@herivaldoagostinho1694]

Kendrick Is very top Tier Lyricist You Is buggin

[@rashawnjordan1307]

So the mural with eye holes is watching the good kid lol. I'm still waiting to hear them both on a track.

[@selmamyspace]

Punchlining is a must To be considered a top tier lyricist.

[@beesee4768]

Lyricism will never be outdated, and punchlines are a primary feature of being a Rap/Hip Hop lyricist.

[@finnbalor8021]

Kendrick vs Lupe would be the best battle since Jay -Z vs Nas. Lets do this

[@marcusj.6026]

Lupe vs K.Dot would be a great battle. Lupe is jealous because he wanted to be the super conscious nigga that getting the commercial success. Lol

[@randimaurice]

Oh shit!

[@richrow1796]

Lupe would smoke his boots lyrically..lol Kendrick know this ..he should just ignore lupe ..Stick to dissing big Sean ...lupe probably one of the few mainstream artist that could hang with the battle rappers bar for bar

[@ohmzlaw1421]

Tetsuo and Youth has gotta be a classic. So Godly

[@NewJerzNightmare]

Didnt even watch yet & the title is on point!! Idk why a lupe vs kendrick debate is even happening lupe is an alien smh

[@Mr.Majestic77]

Kendrick Lamar vs. Lupe Fiasco vs. MF Doom vs. Nas vs. Black Thought vs. GZA vs. Rakim vs. Big Daddy Kane vs. Jay Electronica vs. J.Cole vs. Big K.R.I.T vs. Common vs. Andre 3000 vs. DJ Quik vs. Big Boi. Who wins?

[@lopuro4824]

Bruh this would be an epic beef on wax. IMO Lupe is more lyrical but Kendricks delivery and creativity is out worldly.

[@causendeffect1511]

WHO GONE THROW THE FIRST DISS TRACK OUT THO HONESTLY

[@LIVEFRMNYC]

If Kendrick was from NYC, he wouldn't be so praised.

[@HumbleMoses9]

To be real I think the whole kung fu kenny persona was a slick shot to Lupe

[@shawnorjiakor]

J8sun That's a stretch right there.

[@TravelWright22]

J8sun lol

[@reekhigh5789]

Huge stretch.

[@KEVINVN-rr7xb]

J8sun nah, K.Dot got that from Wu-tang. He said it himself.

[@Domo3d]

Lupe is 100 percent right. Most people can't recite one fill bar from Kendrick BUT we know this channel is K dot fan boyz and will bash Lupe for saying it

[@kassdremusic]

Domo Hzzy Lupe either! Clown

[@Domo3d]

K DRE First of all why you gotta name call just because you disagree with me? Second I never said anything about Lupe rapping I said K Dot. And Third of all, grow up internet banger.

[@MrMb889]

name one lupe line?

[@nightnday6675]

Meershyam Bappoo Kick Push. Only 2 words. What about Kendrick?

[@Domo3d]

Meershyam Bappoo You guys keep bringing up Lupe.. Fuck Lupe we talking about KENDRICK not Lupe SMH you kids are dumb af

[@joshuaparker9968]

I do enjoy both artist music and they both have classic albums but I think when both of their careers are over Kendrick will have the greater impact in hip hop. Them going toe to toe would be fantastic for hip hop tho.

[@AJisfly]

Like Prince said, put them in the ring and let them drop tracks and show the world what a feud is supposed to look like. I did have to listen to Tetsuo and Youth a few times the see its worth. "Mural" starts that album off full force. As much as I love Lupe, Lupe does need to stfu sometimes, he be doing too much.

[@jeremyseven9468]

Nigaaz call that verse weird because Kendrick fooled everyone including myself, in the same way Lupe did in particular, into thinking he was just a backpack; b boy type rapper. Niggaz felt like they should been mentioned, niggaz who got mentioned felt like they had to say something or it wasn't worth they time. He pulled a Lupe, he wanted people to respect lyrics even though he knew he would be reppn hustlaz and Gz. It was smart, both of y'all were smart for doing it and bringing the realness bac. Have at it. My two favorite young rappers are beefing and it's all about the bars.....???? where is my mothafukn popcorn? You lost your mind if you think I'm taking sides. I'm waitin for a winner. Tic, mothafukn, tic!!!!

[@OfLoveInRomance]

To be honest a better battle would be between King Los and Lupe but a quick side bar i fks with the anime at the end. Is this something that you guys created?

[@kungfukennytde6065]

Lupe is a monster but I been waiting for kdot to unleash some ether on another MC. Not just talking about Lupe. Big Sean is real close to getting slaughtered by Kendrick

[@melvinslaughter7685]

TopDawgEnt970 TopDawgEnt970 in my opinion,I don't think big Sean has enough lyrical skill to even stand a chance against Kendrick

[@kungfukennytde6065]

Melvin Slaughter Big Sean can fucking rap tho. His verses on holy key and control are dope asf. Im just saying out of anyone Sean is the closet to getting that work. Him and drake throw shots here and there but Sean is pushing it

[@melvinslaughter7685]

TopDawgEnt970 TopDawgEnt970 I never he couldn't rap,cause he clearly has talent,but what I'm saying is he 'may' not be skilled enough lyrically to go at Kendrick

[@Wisemenproductions]

Two of my favorite MCs love their music And yeah I wouldn’t mind seeing them go at each other. I want a song more than anything put the petty shit to the side and make some music together

[@DameSmiff]

4:20 Prince the grown ass “Goats” be scared to battle each other.

[@JacKnows34]

Lupe is reaching but he is right as the lyricist point of view. But if this goes down I can see the outcome being the same as LL Cool J vs Canibus. Popularity always win. But if we listen to the lyrics rather than going with the hype then it will be something to watch. Don't know what would happen lyrically but it is obvious who would win with a better record.

[@melvinslaughter7685]

You know what fuck it!!,they need to go at it..I want to see this!!

[@CalSomething]

It's been far to long that Lupe has been outside of the competitive space. Don't let your emotions get the dust knocked off you Lupe. Js.

[@PhantomZone15]

Caleber Bodley kendrick can't smoke Lupe period

[@CalSomething]

PhantomZone15 Keep thinking that, stranger things than that have happened in battles before when feet start getting held to the fire.

[@victormemeh3106]

your are right

[@nightnday6675]

This woman is VERY knowledgeable and delivers it with cool calm and collective.

[@DesignzRUs]

yall should video blog these

[@jaydelon]

"the dusty circle" lol!

[@DameSmiff]

Shut Up Lupe make a diss track lets get it

[@Mr0BC]

Child rebel soldier tho? That was black hippy/hiiipower

[@HoboAKAHottFuzz]

I feel like, as far as the control verse goes, yea you could say it's overrated in the idea that, it wasn't like the greatest verse ever, that being said, Kendrick was a genius for it, he took that track at a time when he knew he was making some noise in the mainstream, but he hadn't quite broken out yet, so he needed something to really push him over the top, get him noticed, and that was the verse that really blew him up, so, overrated lyricism-wise? Maybe, but anyone is ignorant as fuck if they think that wasn't a genius move on K-Dot's part.

[@AYOSLIDE]

Kdot got a new victim. Remember Jay E. had to apologize after what he "tried" to do. Big Sean already got that smoke. Body bags everywhere!!!!! #staywoke

[@PhantomZone15]

discjockayo no

[@trevorellis-guice5794]

Kendrick’s delivery and flow are way better than Lupe Could ever dream of doing. Bar for bar Lupe could wash him but Lupe’s love for bars over everything is a part of the reason why his career and music fell off.

[@gdiggedy9]

Lupe's flow is way smoother and cleaner than Kendrick's. I find Kendrick sounding robotic and choppy a lot of the time. Plus he relies on using a lot of weird, annoying voices to get his point across.

[@ogarcia721]

So I am guessing Lupe likes Jay-Z over Nas? Different strokes for different folks.

[@mosthighchosen614]

Kendrick Lamar's whole style, delivery, and flow is a copied mixture of Andre 3000 and Eminem. Folks just won't admit it. Listen to Rick Ross's joint "Sixteen", and it's crystal clear that Kendrick copied his style and sound.

[@mosthighchosen614]

BAM Listen to his music. It's obvious.

[@kevingrah32]

that's every emcee in the world, NO ONES EXEMPT

[@3rdblockj981]

he does nothing new! HE FUKIN LIED!!!

[@gunner0479]

Everyone was inspired. Listen to section 80 and you can see he has his own style. Even tupac said he got alot of his style from ice cube and you can hear it in some sense

[@chavewrig9462]

Black God99 HE FUCKKKKKIN LIED

[@Shackzonetv]

Kendrick should just drop the heart part 5 and black out on lupe and everyone who wants smoke

[@ceemoonpanda8556]

ShackZone TV Idk fam

[@damonmd3]

That would be a his worst move .

[@edmysta2515]

Lupe would kill kdot. Lupe's lyrics are out of this world

[@melvinslaughter7685]

For those who say Kendrick isn't an Elite lyricist..then what exactly is an "Elite" lyricist then?? Or are y'all just running your mouths?

[@shawnorjiakor]

Melvin Slaughter Even I want to know. I know a lot of lyricists. There's several types of lyricists.

[@melvinslaughter7685]

Shawn Orjiakor well hopefully someone will explain,cause I honestly don't understand how Kendrick isn't quote on quote "Elite",What exactly is Elite??

[@jirrelljohnson3328]

Melvin Slaughter Being an elite lyricist requires being an absolute word smith. Like Kool G rap for example. Lupe proved he's elite with mural. Kendrick isn't on that level lyrically

[@shawnorjiakor]

Melvin Slaughter A lot of people are referring technical ability as the reason why Kendrick isn't a elite lyricist and I easily disagree. Jay Z never really known for technical ability. Not to say, he doesn't have it. He's more known for his double / triple entendres, wordplay, and a little storytelling. And I still put him as one of the greatest MCs.

[@melvinslaughter7685]

Jirrell Johnson thank you for input

[@Ucey365]

I love K Dot but Lupe is definitely one of my all time favorites. Lupe feels left out it seems. If I had to choose, I’d side with Lupe. Only because he’s consistently been a threat since his inception. Lupe gets overlooked & bypassed so often that he has to strike a cord every now and then.

[@TheGreatAlan75]

"Kendrick isn't an elite lyricist"??? um, ok.. GKMC is a better album than anything Lupe Fiasco would ever dream to do... THA FUCK OUTTA HEERRREEEEEEE

[@rasshanbo8933]

I guess we all can agree great minds think alike both positive intelligent brothers love dem both waiting for the bar fest it's go b 🔥🔥🇻🇮Ras

[@djnes2k7]

Lupe is the piccolo of rap. Everybody talk about how intelligent he is, and how skilled he is....but in the end, never do shit. Can’t blame the label, when everyone dropping mixtapes.

[@DameSmiff]

Uh oh here come the stans!!

[@rockkzillatv444]

4:04 I dnt think Pac ever said he was the best but he said he is the realist.

[@work7443]

Those other rappers have claimed the best but, they don't have the same hype train behind at the times they've said it so it didn't register as much as when Kendrick said it.

[@landofthedreadheads8901]

Who track is that in the beginning? And damn Lupe why you throwing salt my G, give credit were credit is due, what's reason for the comment, Lupe is dope, but Kendrick is that nigga. Everybody want that spot, if you come for the King you better not miss.

[@landofthedreadheads8901]

Jirrell Johnson and you need to..............lmao who I'm fooling, who cares what you think 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jirrelljohnson3328]

Land of the Dread Heads But you responded to my comment tho lol

[@landofthedreadheads8901]

Jirrell Johnson I guess, whatever helps you sleep at night bud 👍👍👍👍

[@lismartin8060]

Lupe tell us how you really feel. Lol! Just go head to head with Kendrick if that's how you feel.🤔

[@koldraiynedownskayle5744]

Lupe Fiasco is the Undisputed King of the Double/Triple/Quadruple/Quintuple Entendre. No mainstream mc can match him.

[@shawnorjiakor]

He called the Control verse wack, but he still talking about the "wack verse" 6 years later. I gotta disagree with his lyrical assessment of Kendrick. Kendrick got double entendres and metaphors on multiple songs. Not as technical as Lupe, but he does got it. Kendrick got better flow than Lupe. Although Lupe is a great MC, he has a tendency to half assed his technical ability or when he display it, it's sounds too forced and pretentious sometimes. Lupe has been jealous of Kendrick for years. He even say Logic, someone who get heavy influence from Kendrick, better than Kendrick. Lupe's discography is one of the most inconsistent in Hip-Hop. For someone in that caliber, it's disappointing. He's only got two classic albums while Kendrick Lamar got at least 3 and he still make consistent quality work. C'mon now. Kendrick is getting his credit in the game, while Lupe is being a hater and trying hard to imitate Samurai Jack on Instagram.

[@melvinslaughter7685]

Shawn Orjiakor I'll say Kendrick has at least two,but I agree with the logic point..lyrically and creatively,he's not better than Kendrick

[@shawnorjiakor]

Melvin Slaughter Yep.

[@porich7943]

Melvin Slaughter disagree. Go listen to mural and failure bro . Kendrick has nothing in his catalog touching those songs lyrically .. I agree with lupe being inconsistent..but when he’s on ..he’s super gifted..Kendrick is a better artist..lupe is a better lyricist

[@melvinslaughter7685]

Po Rich I was talking about the rapper Logic not Lupe

[@shawnorjiakor]

Imperial stats T&Y is dope. But nah, bruh. Kendrick Lamar got three classics excluding Damn. The Cool and T&Y is Lupe's best in his entire career which is kinda disappointing.

[@rasshanbo8933]

I got the glo now that's funny😂🤣🇻🇮Ras

[@ruffalo4053]

HE ISNT THO...WESTCOAST NEEDED ONE IS ALL

[@shawnorjiakor]

ruff alo The West Coast been having a lot of lyricists in the game for years even right now. Stop sleeping on the West.

[@JBlovelymia]

The giant midget you boy did look hell dwarfed next to riri

[@kbtitan2464]

Lupe mad Kendrick took his spot..😂

[@lupethekilla4200]

LBJTITAN23 that’s impossible

[@kbtitan2464]

Lupe the killa I say that in how Lupe was the poster child for "Conscious" rap but it's now Kendrick

[@ItsAnEndlessWorld]

LBJTITAN23 Not really. Lupe doesn't care for the industry, never did. He spoke on this long ago before Kendrick was where he is now and recently.

[@justapugontheinternet]

Meitantei Tris oh bull crap 💩. Of course he cares, why do you think he’s going after Kendrick for silly shit? Coz Kenny took his spot. Don’t get me wrong though, I love Lupe, I have all of his albums. I even love Drogas Light (which most people hated). I thoroughly enjoy his music and I do believe that his punchlines and wordplay are better than Kendrick’s but Kendrick makes up for it with better delivery and cadence. They are both great Emcees, but Lupe is salty right now.

[@MrTheAnswer003]

T&Y Def a classic

[@mtnt0557]

Lupe fiasco is an example of someone who was ahead of their time...If he came out a few years ago with j.cole, wiz and mac miller he would be BIG. Hip hop a few years ago took a alternate route which would have been great for lupe...However lupe came out at a time where trap music was starting to get big and alot of dance music was coming out...examples crank that and walk it out!!!! He was a oddball in the middle of all of that, so he didn't get much shine as others. I enjoyed his albums in high school but while I was listening to him....people was bragging about lil wayne haha I like wayne but I was listening to lupe and jeezy alot!!!! The place kendrick is at is where lupe could have been!!!! It not his fault..its really his label and how the industry was when he first came in!!!

[@1988TheD]

Buzz cut imitation thriller jacket 😁