Lutheran Theology in 90 Seconds -- Nadia Bolz Weber

[@dmshueyable]

"The line between good and evil runs straight through the heart of every man" - alexandr Solzhenitsyn

[@Murmuringbirds]

There is more to Lutheran theology, but grace is huge and this seems an accurate explanation

[@w1llrd278]

Of Course its ELCA, which Luther would definitely have problems with if he saw it.

[@cadenjohnson1137]

Haha I was thinking the same thing. Elca has some very strange beliefs

[@karenrichey9788]

Yes, he would. ELCA is off the chain.

[@amye.reagan1774]

ELCA….Everything Luther Cautioned Against

[@dmmusicmusic]

He would die a thousand deaths and repent for his part in the "reformation" for sure.

[@janehampton2866]

Is she a ELCA?

[@barnabasfrid]

Lutheran Theology can be summed up in three words: By Faith Alone

[@markstaley5714]

BarnabasFrid faith alone grace alone acripture alone..the solos

[@jamesaustin1988]

That's what she said at 0:07.

[@kristinhornick1890]

I have a five word response: IS NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE.

[@Fos3tex]

@@kristinhornick1890 - I have a passage response: Ephesians 2:8-9

[@Samantha-ql6nw]

ELCA is horrible. Literally Devil worshippers. I’m a Calvinist but ELCA is an embarrassment not only to Lutheranism and Protestantism, but just Christianity in general.

[@reformedcatholic457]

I'm sure Luther would declare her to be a heretic.

[@duke0219]

That’s because she is.

[@jr_freiberg]

Yep.

[@reformedcatholic457]

@David Phillips Why was he a heretic? Give me solid reasons for it.

[@elimartin3774]

I suppose the question is: Which is more important, the word of Luther, or the word of Christ?

[@reformedcatholic457]

@@elimartin3774 Jesus didn't call people heretics, but I get your point.

[@barfrockskin535]

Certainly not your kind of typical Lutheran.

[@mattpatton8887]

She's not Lutheran, she's ELCA. They are Lutheran in name only.

[@emersonorlandoordonez1288]

1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? Romans 6.1

[@bradvincent2586]

She didn't say to go on sinning. You have just fallen victim to being a binary thinker. Just because you disagree with her on theology, doesn't mean she automatically believes the opposite of what you do.

[@francesbrisco776]

@@bradvincent2586 I like NADIA I agree she never encouraged us to intentionally sin NADIA just recognized human nature being what it is I LOVE HOW SHE EMBRACES FAITH 90 seconds YES so just take a walk and enjoy the sunshine BLESSINGS♡

[@hayleysimons6807]

Read verse 26 of that same chapter. Once born again we live free from the bondage of our slavery and understand that any good works we do we do in response to and with the strength provided by christ. But our good works aren't the things that save us. They are a by product of our freedom in christ. "But the FREE gift of God is eternal life in christ Jesus our Lord"

[@cL-bf2ug]

that’s already what many Protestants believe

[@Michael-ue2ei]

God forbid

[@ardentword508]

I honestly thought she was mocking Lutheranism initially and making a poor straw man of what they believe.

[@RepublicofE]

@@Mar.....O "I can be really mean, but also I can be really nice" is not remotely what "saint and sinner" means.

[@thegracecast40]

Right. It’s really not. And she said “all of us.” Umm no. All who believe. Come on Luther’s baby was justification by FAITH alone, and she’s using his name teaching inclusionism! Sighs in despair 😞

[@curtisgriesel9503]

@@thegracecast40 faith is not an act of people, but a gift give by God.

[@thegracecast40]

@@curtisgriesel9503 agreed and that doesn’t nullify anything I said

[@curtisgriesel9503]

@@thegracecast40 Nadia is simply saying that faith is for all of us, according to Gods will. You and I don't know who has faith and who doesn't. Probably most of the people who claim to have it, don't.

[@onehappydawg]

She says at the end that basically it was her experience in life she based her truth off of. Instead of basing her truth off of scripture.

[@onehappydawg]

@Bob Martin our experience doesn’t dictate truth. The Word of God tells us what truth is. If your “truth” conflicts with what the Word of God says is truth, you need to reassess your “truth.

[@onehappydawg]

@Bob Martin hahaha....not a boomer. Strike one ☝️ And really if that’s all you’ve got you’re pretty weak. How about instead of thinking with your emotions, you think with the brain God gave you. What exactly about my last comment was not true?

[@onehappydawg]

@Bob Martin Yeah that’s what I thought

[@sarco64]

I think that the main problem with this video is that it is impossible to explain Lutheran or any other theology in 90 seconds. One of the areas of confusion seems to be in regard to "saint and sinner." The theologians from both the Lutheran and Calvinist camps agreed that we are justified by God's grace alone through faith alone on account of Christ alone. Faith unites us with Christ such that we give Him our sin, our brokenness, and all our failures, and He covers us with His perfect righteousness as if it were our own. It is the forgiveness of our sin along with His righteousness imputed to us that is the basis of our justification. Having been justified (declared righteous), we begin the lifelong process of sanctification. However, because of our sinful nature, we don't reach a state of sinless perfection in this lifetime. Thus, in terms of our justification, we are righteous, but in terms of our sanctification, even though we are moving in the right direction, we won't achieve perfection in this lifetime, so we are still sinners. This doctrine of "simul justus et peccator" was essential to understanding the theology of the Protestant Reformation, but I think it has been largely lost from American evangelicalism. Also, I don't think Pr Weber did a good job of explaining this. While it is true that all of us are a mixture of good and bad, our own goodness will never be good enough to reconcile us to a holy God. Only the gift of Christ's perfect righteousness, imputed to us through faith, will accomplish that.

[@curtisgriesel9503]

sarco64 Great points. Nadia doesn't give a full discourse on Luther's theology. But I think she does a good job of highlighting the major points on which Luther differs from Calvin, an on which mainline Protestants differ from Evangelicals.

[@sarco64]

Curtis Griesel I think that on the doctrine of justification, (the doctrine upon which the Church stands or falls, according to Luther), Luther and Calvin were largely in agreement. We are justified by grace alone through faith alone on account of Christ alone. It seems that today's Evangelicals no longer agree with this. The original Protestants believed that God justifies us freely by His grace. The message from Evangelicals seems to be that God provides us with what we need to justify ourselves, if we will only diligently apply ourselves to the task. If I were given the assignment of explaining Lutheran theology in 90 seconds, I would focus on justification by grace alone through faith alone on account of Christ alone.

[@rezsonemeth1542]

Jesus does not want you to be good, but to die! Be a part of him, he will die his life with your life. With your life, you can only receive your final death.

[@fulltimemonti]

I think summarizing "what it means to be Lutheran" is very difficult. You can parrot stuff Luther and other reformers said, but in the end different aspects of Lutheranism resonate to different people. If you want to tell me it is the tradition and the music, you can shove it. It is absolutely everything Nadia said, plus (IMHO) all the other dualities you can come up with. For example I see Lutheranism best exemplifies that we are both spiritual and physical, that we are both individual believers and part of something much much greater, that Christ died for you and for everyone, that we acknowledge both the ancient and the modern, and that we are both sinner and saint.

[@olmeckrav]

“Lutheran theology in 90 seconds” is the title and she speaks of herself for 90 seconds!!! I’ll give you Lutheran (Christian) theology in less: 1 Corinthians 2:2 NKJV [2] For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Done.

[@revksemi1962]

So you do not understand Lutheran theology. Got it.

[@olmeckrav]

@@revksemi1962 wow so deep

[@olmeckrav]

@Pedro Ivan Sanchez I don’t see what you mean 🤔

[@thejensens4402]

You have forgotten basic Catechism. The Apostle's Creed I believe in God the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth. I believe in Jesus Christ, Gods only Son, our Lord. Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified died and was buried. He descended into hell, on the third day rose again from the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen

[@big_alsgaming]

I am a LCMS Lutheran.

[@Anon54387]

Same here, bit of a rare bird in California. One does not run across many Lutherans out here. My cousins all grew up in the midwest, and have a lot of Lutheran friends. A city of a half million people only will have a couple hundred Lutherans out here. A town of 8,000 will have more Lutherans than that back there.

[@mssmssmssmss]

The Catholic church has a long history in California, from the early missions to more recent populations of people of Hispanic and Irish descent. Not as many of Scandinavian heritage here, One of the local Lutheran churches in my area now has services in Chinese and some in Spanish, too, I believe.

[@mssmssmssmss]

Oh, it looks like the Spanish service isn't listed now. Too bad. :(

[@pauln5785]

Oooh, what do you want? A gold star?

[@neilcarter77]

The evangelical Lutherans have been corrupted by the evil one.

[@ashleylocke3052]

She didn't reference scripture. I test everything to the word of God and as a believer in God, when we defend or explain our beliefs, we need to be ready to refer to The Word of God because His word is Truth... not our own or others emotions and certainly not our own or others ideas.

[@curtisgriesel9503]

checking Scripture is your homework assignment!

[@ashleylocke3052]

Homework Done! What I'm saying is she is speaking of man-made doctrine rather than biblical doctrine which I was suspicious when hearing her say the things she said, but it was even more clear when she failed to refer to the word of God at all. Yes we are saved by grace, Thank God, and no we're not perfect but sin is not to be taken lightly either. Choosing to live in repetitive sin, rather than repent, shows we have a love for the world and not a love for Jesus Christ. 1 John 2 15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. 1 Cor 10 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. Romans 6 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

[@nightflight83]

Do you sin? Do you sin everyday?

[@ashleylocke3052]

Grumpy Lutheran Hey Brother! Love your vibe and attitude. It's so refreshing. I think I know what you mean when you say no one has it completley right. That is why even so many of us who worship the same God, following the same word end up arguing over it (which I try to avoid doing =) because it isnt easy but that is what is so wonderful about what Jesus did in sending us the gift of the Holy Spirit. He gladly sends discernment and wisdom for those who humbly and sincerly ask him for it and there is a lot here that strikes me with caution. We are at a time where the Devil has infiltrated the church and the word of God on such a grand scale. We all fall short of the glory of God and will never be 'worthy' but we are to strive to be set apart as Holy, led by the Holy Spirit and something about what she says strikes ideas of conformity, submitting to carnality, and a relaxed acceptance of sin and things unholy. It's sooo important for us to remember to be humble, loving, meek, kind and compassionate. But at the same time diligent in following the word of God, serving Him and remaining obedient. Living in this world, it's hard not to slip into luke-warmness... VERY hard but it's rampant! There are so many who refuse to repent and strive for growth and change away from that which the Lord says is wicked. This type of Lukewarm christianity has spread like a virus that grows and so many are losing their crown, their salvation that God himself warns us to stay steadfast in protecting. In Revelations, the Lord God himself says, if you are lukewarm, I will vomit you out of my mouth. That verse has got to be one of the most frightening. But the conventional church doesnt talk about these type of scriptures which is very sad because people need to know that yes our God is a God of mercy and love, but he is also a God who delves deep into the hearts of many and he says as well, that our hearts are wicked. He knows very well whats in our hearts and this isnt anything for us to be proud of either for we are all sinful by nature. Our hearts must be replaced with a fleshly heart, a pure spirit and that comes through accepting Jesus and becoming entirely new sacrificing your self and gladly embracing with boldness your new Holy self. It's not to say we won't fail. We will because our flesh is still sinful and we live in a sinful world, but we get back up, repent, ask for continued guidance and we keep running this race, seeking that which is Holy, sacrificing our earthly and fleshly desires. There is no greater form of worship than obedience because this is when we truly give it ALL to God. It's no easy feat, but it's certainly more than worth striving for.

[@Anon54387]

And therein lies the difference between ELCA and LCMS.

[@DemonDog444]

ELCA has gone full blasphemy. We need to pray for ELCA leadership.

[@littlecatedward7737]

They need to stop calling themselves Lutherans. If you disagree with all of classical Lutheran theology all the way down to something as simple and clear as the role of pastor must be a man then you cannot be considered Lutheran

[@lindamorgan2678]

Let those that are filthy be filthy STILL

[@JSmillaa]

You should pray to have your heart opened

[@littlecatedward7737]

@JSmillaa I mean if by opened you mean willfully straying away from historically correct doctrine as laid out by scripture, maybe you need to ask yourself if you can prove your views by scripture.

[@JSmillaa]

@@littlecatedward7737 Your perception has not yet been transformed by the kind of love Jesus spoke of. You're just following rules. Who are those rules made by? Not Jesus. Your obsession with a book and being "correct" distracts you from the true gospel.

[@ludwigwittgenstein6850]

This is a really bad over simplification of Luther's theology.

[@Anon54387]

Not to mention a distortion of it.

[@ludwigwittgenstein6850]

***** Indeed,

[@mssmssmssmss]

It is a 90 second video trying to explain the ELCA's views.

[@somekindoftony]

OMG how could they have a whole 90 second video and simplify something. Shocking. Also Lutheranism has kind of moved on from its founder. Bonhoeffer is at least as crucial.

[@jedisentinel1499]

@Mikael Nyman We are sinners regardless. Cannot help it, cannot stop it, cannot avoid it. We have been saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. We are free to do what we want free from God's wrath but not immune from earthy consequences. I don't feel any unusually urge to sin more knowing this. In fact I feel a call to better myself knowing this. Call it the Holy Spirit.

[@Michelle-mu2ux]

why did I just watch this? I get a ten minute break and this is what I get?

[@WhiteBraveheart1]

I'm a Catholic and I wish my Lutheran brothers and sisters well. God Bless You.

[@leannbarker2051]

❤

[@tannersmith448]

This is a sad misunderstanding of the way sanctification works. So much of the believer's sanctification lays on the believer choosing to walk out his faith and thus be sanctified.

[@ETBrothers]

Yes

[@SoldierOfGod778]

Agreed

[@donaldjacobson4184]

Not in Lutheran theology

[@SoldierOfGod778]

@@donaldjacobson4184 Wrong, Law and Gospel my friend. Lutherans see good works as living out the way of salvation and staying sanctified. They believe us to be saved by our Faith, but if we choose to not live out as a Christian we can lose our salvation. That is God’s commandment

[@donaldjacobson4184]

@@SoldierOfGod778 Typical Reformed response. I will respectfully disagree. I live in the assurance of my salvation.You should too.

[@willbaden2671]

Its really sad how much the ELCA has fallen off

[@mikemanners1069]

Insanity.

[@jeffsanders5433]

From one who grew up "Lutheran" and LOVES the Church, it pains me to still see divisiveness within the body and within this denomination, as I see it in these posts. I may not agree with her theology completely but she's still a daughter of my Father. Made beautiful through the cross. I simply hope that we can begin to see each other and "The World" not for what they do or have done but through what Jesus has done. Still learning and growing myself after 50+ years at this "Christian thing".

[@antonloveroftruth5920]

+Jeff Sanders It never occurred to you that the reason that the Lutheran church is so divided is because it was created by a man, not God?

[@jeffsanders5433]

+Anton How do you know God was not involved?

[@jojolozano]

easy Matthew 7:16Ye shall know them by their fruits

[@jeffsanders5433]

jojolozano I learned a lot of grate foundational stuff while attending. I have seen a LOT of love shared there. and...Grace. so the "fruit I experienced was....Good Fruit. ps. uniformity does not necessarily equate to unity. I question organizations who all believe the same. again... I'm still learning... thanks for the reply. I can see you love the bible!

[@jojolozano]

Jeff Sanders is she really a daughter of God ? she is going against what is in the scriptures, female pastor one of the requirements is that you have to be a male . is it possible to be a son or daughter of the devil yes it is John 8:45 Ye are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murder from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. i pray that she changes her ways

[@trevhib]

One of the reasons this excerpt is so difficult to be comfortable with as a Christian is because it leaves out the critical element in the middle, between our sinful nature and God's righteousness within our spirit - our ability to choose which one we walk towards! Believe in God and you're absolved of all responsibility? No, the opposite! For our own good (and His glory), we are told to continue the process of change in the rest of our being (mind & body), that God started (and sealed), in our spirit. This lady needs to be preaching that repenting (changing what you think, say and do according to the truth God has revealed to you), is what life is about.

[@frzstat]

Amen!

[@michaelwitcoff4569]

"Easy-believism" is not the Gospel. This whole video came off as an excuse not to even try to improve yourself. Read the lives of actual Saints, and you will see that they were repenting 24/7 for things like errant thoughts and impulses in order to get closer to God. Not even sinning through their actions anymore, but deeper and deeper layers of "sin" were progressively revealed to them the closer they got to God. There was no end to their struggle to improve in their efforts to seek union with God. "Don't bother trying, nobody improves anyway" has nothing to do with sound Biblical doctrine.

[@nightflight83]

So "hard-believism?"

[@Samantha-ql6nw]

I don’t agree with this lady’s progressive Christianity but stop promoting hard believeism, Romans 4:1-5

[@jimc1758]

A problem with referring to someone as "troubled" (which she seems to be) is that it can sound uncaring. I don't mean it that way at all. In a separate video this person speaks at some length about terrible childhood hurt and pain. It is a baffling and heartbreaking account. Maybe if I'd had her experiences I'd have an attitude problem too. Or maybe not. I have Evangelical friends with their own deep wounds and ongoing struggles, and they emphasize the gospel. Historians believe that Luther was kind of a bull-in-a-china-closet himself. Could be that more quickly than most people Luther would have looked past tattos and other elements of this person's appearance, as we should too. Luther's central message was God's grace of declaring a guilty sinner as righteous, and that only by his/her trust in Christ for forgiveness of sin. I'm afraid I don't see that emphasis in videos I've seen of this person so far.

[@vxskud]

I’ve been looking to get back to Jesus after being an atheist and the Lutheran church seems more and more appealing the more I look into it.

[@elimartin3774]

ELCA is worth checking out

[@tylerworrell4446]

@@elimartin3774 no its not. It's an abomination to the Lutheran tradition. I'm not even a Lutheran and I can clearly see how elca is a complete opposite of historical Lutheranism.

[@elimartin3774]

ELCA is in communion with the Church of Sweden, the oldest Lutheran body

[@that39warguy6]

No, dont join ELCA. They teach heretical themes on modern gender theory and being "inclusive". They distort the Word of God

[@papflower610]

Check out Total Onslaught on KZbin first. 36 videos :)

[@Jane20121985]

This is the state of Christendom? Cheap Grace does attract itching ears.

[@TurboVonCrim]

there is nothing cheap about what cost God everything.

[@Samantha-ql6nw]

Cheap grace? Blasphemy! Gods grace isn’t cheap! His grace is wonderful and precious. I don’t agree with this lady’s Progressive Christianity but calling God’s Grace cheap is utter blasphemy.

[@noahclark2507]

You should be LCMS

[@brucehorn1820]

An excerpt from Annie Dillard's book "Teaching a Stone to Talk" God does not demand that we give up our personal dignity, that we throw in our lot with random people., that we lose ourselves and turn from all that is not him. God needs nothing, asks nothing, and demands nothing, like the stars. It is a life with God which demands these things. Experience has taught the race that if knowledge of God is the end, then these habits of life are not the means but the condition in which the means operates. You do not have to do these things; not at all. God does not, I regret to inform you, give a hoot. You do not have to do these things - unless you want to know God. They work on you, not on him. You do not have to sit outside in the dark. If, however, you want to look at the stars, you will find that darkness is necessary. But the stars neither require nor demand it.

[@watchmanonthewall667]

Don't think that the scripture "Be ye holy for I AM holy" is used in her sermons. Grace is for holiness, not licentiousness.

[@brucehorn1820]

Only God is Holy. Nothing made by humankind is holy. I don't think you're really a Protestant! :-)

[@sarco64]

Lutherans don't promote licentiousness. We acknowledge that as we strive to live in accordance with God's laws, we will never achieve sinless perfection, and thus the righteousness that justifies us is Christ's perfect righteousness imputed to us. As for holiness, people like to quote Hebrews 12:14, "without holiness no one will see the Lord," but wanting to pride themselves in achieving their holiness by their own efforts they ignore Hebrews 10:10, "we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all."

[@ianbeck6058]

Clearly she went to a ELCA church

[@brucehorn1820]

She wasn't raised a Lutheran.

[@brucehorn1820]

As of December 31, 2016, there were 3,563,842 baptized members in the ELCA. So she's not alone. I suggest you read one of her books.

[@jacksonrpaul]

Luther rolling over in His grave after what the ELCA became.

[@beagleman123456789]

Martin Luther was an Evil Man ‘

[@mmtoss6530]

At least there is the LCMS

[@joeiverson5013]

@@mmtoss6530 LCMS tends to bear little resemblance to Jesus compassion and grace.

[@edwardfranks5215]

Problem. Imputed righteous even when we are sinners is very forensic. Declared innocent even though guilty. So imputed justification is like having a bucket of paint poured over us. It's like being justified by faith alone which can be turned into a good word, my faith justifies me so I can be bad cause I got a bargaining chip. Anglicans, particularly high-church Anglo-Catholics, often follow Catholicism and Orthodoxy in believing both man and God are involved in justification. "Justification has an objective and a subjective aspect. The objective is the act of God in Christ restoring the covenant and opening it to all people. The subjective aspect is faith, trust in the divine factor, acceptance of divine mercy. Apart from the presence of the subjective aspect there is no justification. People are not justified apart from their knowledge or against their will...God forgives and accepts sinners as they are into the divine fellowship, and that these sinners are in fact changed by their trust in the divine mercy."[35] Justification, the establishment of a relationship with God through Christ, and sanctification go hand in hand. In historic Anglicanism, the eleventh article of the Thirty-Nine Articles made it clear that justification cannot be earned, "We are accounted righteous before God... not for our own works or deservings".[36] However, certain Anglican theologians (especially Anglo-Catholics) argue for a faith characterized by faithfulness, where good works and the Sacraments play important roles in the life of the Christian believer. (see New Perspective on Paul) This also accords with the plain words of Scripture faith without works is dead. Luther said good works are the fruit of faith. Good enough. But sanctification goes hand in hand with justification, the goal being transformed into the likeness of Christ, not just being a passive recipient of justification.

[@firstnamelastname2552]

Martin Luther would personally escort her to be burned at the stake.

[@SoldierOfGod778]

Calm down hitler

[@firstnamelastname2552]

@@SoldierOfGod778 WTF? I did not say that I would escort her. I said Luther would. And it's true.

[@SoldierOfGod778]

@@firstnamelastname2552 I was not implying that you said that im implying that you think of such a thing, im against this woman but we must love our neighbour. You clearly don’t understand the Gospel

[@firstnamelastname2552]

@@SoldierOfGod778 You instantly called me a nazi. But love your neighbor right? Remove the beam from your eye.

[@SoldierOfGod778]

@@firstnamelastname2552 I used the name Hitler to imply that it was a very harsh statement.

[@RipsterSA]

If one looks around (within all the major denominations of Christendom) one will find one group that "speaks the language" for "what one has experienced to be true".

[@damarispickin649]

I am worried about our younger generation listening to this very confused and irreverent woman. She is preaching her own gospel, a religion of "self." When you do not know the Word of God, you do not know Jesus. Without Jesus you have a foolish religion without the Holy Ghost, a Christianity without the risen Christ, forgiveness without repentance, grace without justification, a Heaven without a hell and a monologue with no truth. Let us worship Him in spirit and in truth because the rest is mere vanity.

[@willoooooooob9]

This woman comes off as a motivational speaker only !!!!!

[@mssmssmssmss]

It's too bad someone well versed in the ELCA's views doesn't respond to some of the comments here.

[@lestoilbuzz]

Lutherans in the ELCA and ELCIC (Canada) are not biblical literalists. We promote scholarly research with regard to the social, religious, economic, political and cultural milieu when it comes to understanding the context of the scriptures in their original setting. I would hope we no longer attribute seizures to demon possession in 2015 and ostracize individuals from public life. In 2015 we understand the medical issue of epilepsy. That is why ELCA and ELCIC Lutherans acknowledge that we are a "REFORMING" Church. God is always teaching us new ways to understand how God works in the world in our context, in this present tense in North America. We are not cut in stone. We flow with the body and blood of the grace of Jesus Christ. - Reverend Leslie Joan Poulin, Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada (ELCIC)

[@Anon54387]

That's a vague statement. Some of the comments? Which comments? Still, as general as this is I'll take a stab at it. First of all, unlike the implication of Leslie we do no attribute seizures to demonic possession in the LCMS. We are hardly flat earthers in the LCMS. This could, as you might imagine, turn into a long discussion. The short version is that the ELCA and LCMS do not share a common confessional view of Lutheranism. To my mind, the ELCA and its doctrines are, in a manner of speaking, fuzzy. Comparing the two directly tends to get very abstract and quickly. But compare the LCMS to a denomination that the ELCA is in full communion with, namely the Presbyterian Church. They teach a "double predestination" in that they believe there are people predestined for damnation and others predestined for salvation. No one has been predestined to damnation; we are saved by God's Grace alone, but we are damned by our stubborn nature in sin which might lead us not to accept Christ as our Savoir. This is NOT by God's choice. Presbyterians also put human reason next to God's Scripture as a source of doctrinal authority. The similarity between this and Leslie's second sentence should be apparent. This is contrary to Proverbs 3:5 and thus in un-Biblical. It's not exactly apples to apples, but this also is similar to the Amish/Mennonite idea that we can achieve holiness and the Roman Catholic idea that we cooperate with God for Salvation which attempt to put us on the same level as God and lead to an uneasiness of conscience because even when one is raised being told these things there is that little seed of doubt that we aren't really on the same level as God, and rightly so. This, too, is not Biblical. The contemporaries of Martin Luther said this terrified the conscience. Finally, Presbyterians view the sacraments differently. The Presbyterians view the sacraments as signs or symbols of God's grace, whereas Lutherans view them as actual means of God's grace. So, to wrap this up, consider that to be in full fellowship with another congregation it must not compromise the Scripture's requirement that such fellowship be proclaimed and confessed according to "the whole counsel of God" as seen in Acts 20:27. The ELCA, if not un-Biblical in its approach, is in communion with United Church of Christ,the Reformed Church of America, and the Presbyterian Church all of which do not meet this criteria. I'm concerned to ecumenicalism. It used to be that Protestant congregations would not even have interfaith meetings with Roman Catholics due to the fundamental differences between Catholic doctrine and the Bible, although Roman Catholics are technically Christian despite these doctrinal issues. Presently, we are having interfaith meetings between Christians and Muslims. And that is literally something I can go on about for pages just off the top of my head. That'd both have me here for a long time, not to mention seriously straying from the topic that this started out to be. The succinct and "putting it mildly" version is that I'm highly distrustful of that.

[@mssmssmssmss]

***** Well, anonymous person, you're taking issue with my comment from a year and a half ago. At that time, people were very harshly criticizing the ELCA for allowing women to be pastors. I don't know if you are a pastor, but I am not and honestly have never wanted to be one. I am. however, a woman, so it bothered me a lot to have people--especially obviously non-pastors--who belong to other religious denominations criticize the ELCA to that extreme for having women pastors.

[@mssmssmssmss]

I honestly wonder if the person who uploaded this 90-second video would realize the extent to which it would be used to bash the ELCA rather than explain or even open a true dialogue. Some people who have posted negative comments here, like Nathan Redman, upload videos about their LCMS church and faith and disable comments.

[@brucehorn1820]

We started ordaining women in 1970 and it has only served to strengthen the church.

[@maxrenauldo8604]

Is this what pastors actually look like in the Lutheran Church? If so then idk what I am, I can't say I'm Catholic but if this is what it means to be Protestant than idk man how does the Orthodox Church run things?

[@autumn7809]

NONONONO it's not. In the more liberal branches (I'm lookin' at you ELCA) they do some trippy stuff (such as this). But in the LCMS, and the majority of the Lutheran church, pastors are always male, usally married with a family, and generally with very little piercings and tattoos.

[@Barnabas94]

Max Renauldo the LCMS lutheran church of Missouri senate is more traditional. She's probably ELCA Evangelical Lutheran Church Association. look into LCMS

[@mssmssmssmss]

Yes, if you look at the description of the video, it refers to the ELCA (which means Evangelical Lutheran Church in America). Also the "S" in LCMS stands for "Synod," not "senate."

[@Barnabas94]

Yeah it was spell checked on synod sorry. And yeah I knew it was America, accident

[@mssmssmssmss]

It's okay. If someone wants to look for further information, I thought it would help to have the correct names. Google is so helpful, though, who knows. :o)

[@hodgepodge5901]

This is heresy

[@jihnbrumfield4976]

What are you doing to lutheran relgouis

[@rickpettey8822]

As a confessional Lutheran it pains me to hear her say things that are most certainly true (Christians are both 100% sinner & 100% saint) but then apply them to present utter falsehood. She seems to have no grasp of Rom. 6:1.

[@paulnurmi302]

People who are really scared of mysticism often love to make overly simplistic statements on things which are not always so clear, reducing everything to simple mathematical formula. We died with Christ to sin, but we still do the things we hate so there is an inner conflict. Does that mean a simplistic 100% sinner 100% saint and there is no spiritual progress or no choice on our part to let go of life apart from Christ and allow His Spirit to more completely bear His fruit. Some of the anti mystical Lutherans I have heard seem to think that way. It is very impersonal, treats the beautiful perfect love relationship between Christ and the Father and the Spirit who flows out of their Ultimate interdependent relationship (if you interpret passages like John 5:19-20 literally) as an abstraction. Guys, the holy Trinity is what made sense to me in my desperate isolation, not something which needed to be reduced to a mathematical formula. The reason I left Lutheran church Canada and gave up on being Lutheran was there is no Lutheran church in Winnipeg which has a prayer meeting. I need a church which takes prayer seriously; the honor of sharing in Christ's relationship with the Father and allowing their Spirit to do great things through us. This is the only way any church can impact this world. Lutheran empty babble which has nothing to do with the human heart where faith is reduced to a mathematical formula we relate to God as judge whose Son simply died to appease His wrath so we could have a change in legal standing, but no emphasis on real change of heart is what turned me off in this church.

[@DysoniaMultiverseNews]

@@paulnurmi302 We are not 100% sinner and 100% saint. We are concurrently a sinner and saint. That is the point to be made. Remember, the language of the times. Keep in mind linguistic evolution of languages. Just as you maybe concurrently a good person as well as a person who hurts other people known and unknown to you. We are not people so perfect in our human selves that we can be perfectly good in our thoughts, words, or deeds that we would be purely sinless. PS: Martin Luther was a Catholic priest who was protesting some of the abuses of the Catholic Church during his time.

[@DysoniaMultiverseNews]

@@jamesaustin1988 Book of Concord is a compilation that includes a number of Martin Luther's writings.

[@GuyzLikeMe]

Hey now. Us Lutherans need to get along. Saved by my faith by God’s amazing Grace, ALONE.

[@thegracecast40]

Other than her gross mischaracterization of Simul justice et pecator… and her totally not being anything like Luther in her theology, nothing she said here was off. It was mostly true. But I know from other videos she teaches all are saved so that makes her a false teacher. I hope people can discern this

[@thegracecast40]

Also , “language to what I experienced to be true?”She’s not a Lutheran. That’s not sola scriptura

[@domepiece11]

First, she did not post this video, someone else did. Second, it’s just a snippet. This is likely a talk at a youth conference. First, ELCA pastors ALWAYS wear vestments on Sunday. Second, all ELCA pastors must attend seminary. Third, ELCA services ALWAYS include 3 liturgical calendar year scripture readings before the sermon, which the sermon is based off of. But you all can judge this woman on a short video clip? I was raised in a LCMS church and now attend an ELCA church. Stop the hate. She struggled with addiction before becoming a pastor. How do you know she didn’t get all her tattoos before becoming ordained?

[@wjameswright]

This goes totally against Pauls teaching of sanctification 1 Timothy 6:1-21

[@pittymaster496]

"Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things will be added unto you." But, according to her, don't bother drawing near to God. And, not one mention of Christ and Him cruxified for the forgiveness of our sins.

[@dylanbelgioso7942]

Other Christians please do not be missenformed...this is nothing close to what Lutherans preach or practice. These are called ELCA Evangelical-Lutherans or as I call them Free-Lutheran or false. I am a member of the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod or LCMS. We hold the believes Luther actually taught such as Christ Deietey, Eucharist, Book of Concord, Luther's small and large catechisms. That doctrine lines up with the biblical teachings that Luther pioneered during the reformation. My point is LCMS Lutherans believe the Bible to be inherent meaning free of error. They proclaim it to be the inspired word of Christ through the disciple ship. In contrast to the ELCA teachings...they believe that the bible to be taken with a grain of salt or to be questioned of it's authority leaning towards the opinion that it isn't God's infallible word. They show this by ordaining openly homosexual pastors. They encourage sodomy. I don't have a problem with homosexuality personally...but I feel as a Christian you should be preaching the truth what the gospel states. You have the right to disagree with it...but u cannot deny it...it clearly says in scripture (thou shall not lie with mankind) or (Marriage is between one man and one woman) that brings me to s further point...ELCA dont believe in sin or confession...if they honestly think Jesus hates sinners there very wrong...hate the sin love the sinner...I feel pity for them. There being lied to and being made to feel sin doesn't exist...there wouldn't be hell then. All we can do is pray for ELCA members so they can come to light.

[@Anxietysucks126]

Proud Lutheran here, we don’t go off what the church says, rather what Christ and the Bible says, or at least I do.

[@trentp8035]

Who are you to determine what Christ says? The bible has been translated multiple times, and was torn up by the english.

[@Anxietysucks126]

@@trentp8035 like it’s better than making up stuff?

[@trentp8035]

@@Anxietysucks126 You might be making stuff up, I'd rather hear it with someone with authority given by Christ.

[@Anxietysucks126]

@@trentp8035 yea right, I only follow the Bible, not man’s word.

[@trentp8035]

If you interpret the bible, you are man's word in that instance. The way you read and understand the bible is different than everyone else. These are priests, they dedicate their whole lives to God, they are ordained. @@Anxietysucks126

[@silverlining1613]

The Lutherans did not change her life, God did! Exalt His name!

[@MR-cc7zl]

You know, you really CAN judge a book by its cover; this is not a pastor.

[@susancarentz5206]

And yet thankfully she is

[@skawashers]

Augusta gein was a Lutheran .Eddie gein took the capacity of kindness of nursing his mother then happily slaughtered women for shits n giggles...

[@aviator1962]

Dose not sound like Lutheran Theology to me. Disgraceful.

[@diugsmith9777]

It is a whisper thin veil that separates the nature from the supernatural, meaning divine activity is all around us Amen 🙏!.

[@betohifi4225]

totalmente uma pregaçao exaltando o ser humano,não a DEUS

[@danjohnson887]

What is this?

[@oxysz]

Luther looking down from heaven shaking his head lol

[@jimmywadsworth5440]

Do lutherans have to go to confession or no

[@AdamLindell]

Typically no although they do believe that you can receive absolution from a pastor

[@sarco64]

Corporate confession and absolution are part of the weekly liturgy. Private confession is an option for people who are struggling with being able to feel forgiven for a particular sin or sins.

[@duke0219]

We do a group confession at the beginning of the service. We don’t do individual confessions with the minister.

[@LeshaAnn]

No.

[@ultralitigatorable]

Is there more of this?

[@curtisgriesel9503]

The entire speech is at Wednesday Night Dome Speaker - Nadia Bolz-Weber. Her church is houseforall.org/

[@ultralitigatorable]

Thanks

[@drb8786]

Look I’m not a fan of the ELCA, but in all honesty this is pretty good. You could say this is a quick lesson on what the gospel is. God coming to us even tho we don’t deserve it. Put all your differences aside and I think you will agree she gave the gospel. Which is “Lutheranism”

[@redtexan7053]

This lady is literally the last person I would choose to represent us as a church. Geez.

[@SelfImageStylist]

Great. Go there.

[@xstraightedgechrisx]

She'll a better representation of Christianity than most Christians here commenting.

[@BoondockBrony]

@@xstraightedgechrisx She literally never brought up how the sacraments are a vehicle of grace. I don't think so.

[@lanes58]

The ELCA is dying, and when you go to one of their services, you’d think you’re at a funeral. There are many reasons but, in a nutshell, it boils down to one major thing. God isn’t there, He’s left the ELCA. And, you’d have to be living under a rock, if you didn’t know why.

[@domepiece11]

I grew up LCMS and now I attend ELCA and I think the theology is better. The problem is the ELCA puts no focus on youth. They lack youth ministers. It is my one major criticism.

[@brianc4594]

They are just following whims

[@craigbritton3213]

And where did they get that language. From apostolic, authoritative teaching written in Holy Scripture. May we all give allegiance to it and its Author.

[@storkjona82]

reading these different ideas and views gives me insights;Hmmm!anyway, I was lutheran since birth. We must aim our own Salvation through faith by believing and receiving Jesus Christ that He Saved us. died and rose again for us to have eternal life. So, it is not how best you are in preaching/talking the word of God but it is how you internalized,and work on it.must produce good fruits.including how we must behave in and out in our transparent world. We all be judge at the end of the day. In any way, only God who could justify our works and faith!!!

[@jessejulius9735]

John 3:1-5 Lutheran miss this

[@MyHanck]

Amen. And the language we give each other in the faith is none other than our dear Lord Jesus Christ Himself wrapped and clothed in His Word of promise outside the law for sinners.

[@Gorillaboycot]

Where is my enquisition fire?

[@papoo9517]

It’s called sanctification 1 Thess 4:3-7.

[@intello8953]

Is this how Lutheran’s look like?

[@TheBibleSays]

Sorry, but righteousness was not imputed to Abraham by "faith alone." Ephesians 2:8: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God." Note that the verse does NOT say we receive grace just because we *_have_* faith . . . it says *_through_* faith. So, what does _"through_ faith" mean? Hebrews 11:6 shows that _through_ faith we can make a choice: to choose to come to God: "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." It is the _choice_ we make - to come to God - that makes the difference, not just having faith that God is real and that a choice is available! Faith is given to us to call us. Question is, will we answer the call? Consider Abraham. Abraham was promised blessings if he would leave home and journey to the promised land. Through faith he chose to obey (see Hebrews 11:8 and Gen 26:5) and then received the blessings. Would he have received the blessings by having faith in the promises but staying home? Of course not! That would have been dead faith, faith without works, faith without obedience. Abraham's "works" was his obedience. James wrote about Abraham: "Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only" (James 2:22-24). Those three verses from James show that _true believing is more than "faith alone"!_ Did Abraham receive the blessings, and imputed righteousness, by "faith alone," by just thinking God's promises were true? No! He was a _believer._ In the true and complete sense of the word _believe,_ he obeyed, he acted on his faith. His obedience made his faith alive and "perfect" or complete. Do we receive saving grace by "faith alone," thinking this or that is true? No! Jesus is "the author of eternal salvation unto all them that _obey_ Him" (Hebrews 5:9). And who is it that receives the holy spirit . . . is it those who have "faith alone"? No! "And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that _obey_ him" (Peter, in Acts 5:32). So, how do we obey? The apostle Paul explained: "And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent" (Acts 17:30). We obey by repenting, choosing to come to God, as we read earlier in Hebrews 11:6. Through the ransom Jesus made available on the cross, His life for ours, we can be redeemed from the death penalty we have earned (Romans 6:23) for our past sins . . . IF we'll choose to turn from living apart from God, to turn from sin that earned us the death penalty in the first place. Without repentance, we remain unredeemed from the death penalty earned for past sins . . . and we will surely perish in death for those sins. That's why Jesus warned "except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish" (Luke 13:5). Those who preach "faith alone" are misrepresenting Jesus and deceiving many. After His resurrection Jesus appeared to His disciples. Notice what He told them to preach: "Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that *_repentance and remission of sins_* should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem" (Luke 24:45-47). Let's go back to Ephesians 2:8 and include verses 9 and 10: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." "Works" means different things according to the context. The "works" Paul referred to in Ephesians 2:9 was "good works" or good deeds as seen in verse 10. Neither these, nor "the works of the law" (circumcision, etc, from Paul's letters to the Romans and Galatians) can ever "earn" grace or justification. Abraham's "works" was another type of works: his simple obedience through faith. Abraham's obedience made his faith alive and complete, making him a believer. For that, righteousness was imputed to him and he received the promised blessings. Those who abide in a relationship with Jesus are becoming "his workmanship" (v. 10): the relationship with Him "yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them that are exercised thereby" (Hebrews 12:11; Rev 3:19). As they become the "new man" Paul wrote about they are learning to keep the commandments. And they produce good works because it is becoming their nature to do so. Those good works in no way earn justification, but they are evidence of faith made alive - and of the holy spirit received - through obedience.

[@abourachidhamidi228]

The nation of Muhammad in the Bible Genesis: 17v10: This is my covenant, which you (Abraham) will keep between me and you, and your posterity after you: every male among you will be circumcised. 11 / You will circumcise yourself, and it will be a sign of an alliance between me and you. Genesis 17v20: And to Ishmael I answered you, and I will bless him, and make him fruitful, and multiply him to infinity. Genesis 20v13 / I will make a nation of the son of your seventy, for he is your posterity. Isaiah 29v12 / Or as a book (Quran) which is given to a man (Muhammad) who can not read, saying: Lis (first chapter of the Quran) and who answers: I can not read. Isaiah 42v11 / Let the desert and its cities (Mekka and Medina) raise their voices, and the villages occupied by Kedar (second son of Ishmael) Let the inhabitants of the rock tremble with joy, let the crests of joy shout forth from the top of the mountains! 12 "Let the glory be made known to the LORD, and let the islands show his praise! Matthew 21:43 Therefore, I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you, and it will be given to a nation (the Arabs) that will bring forth its fruits. John 4: 21 Woman, saith Jesus to him, believe me, the hour is coming, or it will be neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem, that you worship the father. John 16: 7 / Nevertheless, I tell you the truth, it is expedient for you that I go away, for if I do not go away, the comforter (Muhammad) will not come to you, but if I go away, I will I will send it. Galatians 1v9 / We said it before, and I repeat it at this time if someone (Muhammad) announces another Injile (Quran) than the one you have received, let him be anathema.

[@goblinoide]

What is that thing?!

[@InnocentFrogmouth-vb6cv]

@0.57 I dont think simultaneously sinner and saint means what you think it means as if someone flip flops between good and evil like a fish out of water or something. Perhaps one would say they left a trail of destruction prior to conversion and have only just begun to pick up the pieces, but they would still be more or less wrong, I believe saint Paul had stated that when he wishes to do good he still does evil in Romans. This doesnt mean that it is impossible to obey Jesus just that we are acutely aware of when we do and when we don't and unless we are more advanced than Paul (we aren't) chances are we are usually more often than not, not preforming at our best except here and there (if one were to accurate exegetate Matthew 7) us being 2,000 years later in a ever progressively morally degenerative society. On that note I truly cant tell what might qualify as a truly good work. I dont believe it would be donating to goodwill. Trying hard to be a law abiding citizen doesnt compute either. I would imagine it would mean being exemplarary but then I would be damning myself for not being modest and humble. Further citation is needed at this juncture. Shucks. How truly complicated.

[@mt.2237]

She didn’t quote a single scripture or read from the Bible. I don’t care what your opinion is, give me Bible.

[@davidhickler3845]

I wish you could come speak to my church. You're amazing! God bless you.

[@Linda-bj3bb]

Luther focused on the fact that the Holy Scriptures is the only book that teaches about eternal life and therefore you should despair of your own reasoning and understanding. With them you will not attain eternal life, but on the contrary, your presumptuousness will plunge you and others with you out of heaven (as happened to Lucifer) into the abyss of hell. But kneel down and pray to God with real humility and earnestness, that he through his dear Son and the Holy Scriptures may give you his Holy Spirit, who will enlighten you, lead you, and give you understanding.

[@rbetts2022]

ELCA: Everything Luther Cautioned Against

[@TheTREEHOUSE18]

Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Yes we can get near to God.we Also should obey HIM.

[@wayneschlotfeldt1631]

I pray for her. Although everything she says here is true, she desecrated God's holiness with so much else she does and says.

[@Procopius464]

ELCA is really off the deep end. For a real Lutheran experience come to LCMS.

[@emersonorlandoordonez1288]

Is she representing a Holy God?

[@brucehorn1820]

Yup!

[@AnchovyRun]

Why does she speak like she's reading a Rupi Kaur poem?

[@henrka]

Not bad for a false teacher, but you can tell when she says she loves Lutheranism because all it teaches she had experienced before (presumably as an unbeliever), so she truly never got converted but used Lutheranism to justify her sinful lifestyle, and that she says changed her life. Oh man, this is what happens when women usurp the role of men and become pastors, there is always false teaching since these women are already disobeying God by occupying the pulpit that God reserved for men.

[@TigerClawTV]

I was hoping to learn a bit about how Lutherans differ from other denominations. Oh well. Nice speech anyway.

[@ultrakool]

here's what I found out about Lutherans: 1.) they allow women to preach 2.) they believe baptism is necessary for salvation 3.) they use various perversions of the bible (i.e., other than the kjv). that makes for confusion among the congregants. so, other than those false doctrinal errors, lutheran theology isn't too far from the truth contained in god's word. it's like drinking a tepid cup of coffee...although it may get you excited, it isn't good^^

[@nredman]

ultrakool 1 - Not all Lutheran church bodies allow women to preach. 2 - That is not true. 3 - We use the ESV - I also have a KJV and NASB - I don't think it causes confusion. I wouldn't consider Nadia a Lutheran. Usually when people tell me they are Lutheran I have to ask them what they mean by that. Unfortunately in America there are all kinds. Some good and some bad.

[@mssmssmssmss]

Nathan Redman Apparently the ELCA considers her a Lutheran.

[@nredman]

I don't consider the ELCA to be Lutheran either - so they are a perfect fit for each other.

[@mssmssmssmss]

Nathan Redman And for many other people, too.

[@worshipiano247]

Faith without works is dead

[@Photosounder]

How can I immolate all these people?

[@jihnbrumfield4976]

You walked james brumfield my grandpa

[@eliwhaley4804]

this is not how lutheran sermons should be.

[@jihnbrumfield4976]

You guys have stomped all over united States soil

[@Procopius464]

"But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." --1 Timothy 2:12. "A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;" --1 Timothy 3:2

[@connectbaseball986]

Nothing like Luther. Luther had truth revealed to him and believed. This woman heard truth then changed it to go along with feelings. This is Mysticism. All sinner All saint is making yourself like Christ, all God all man. Heresy.

[@TurboVonCrim]

Holy cow, I think she has been reading my mind and stealing my best stuff.

[@stu1002]

Plenty to dislike about Bolz Weber, but this 90 seconds actually was not too far off the mark theologically on my view - if a little over simplified.

[@KaosGunner]

You can't be a sinner post salvation. You can do acts of sin, but that is no longer your identity as a saint or affects your salvation. We are called to be Jesus focused, not sin conscious. We can't be seated with Chris is heavenly places and be sinners, otherwise Christ's death and resurrection means nothing. We don't descend and ascend on a heavenly elevator everytime we do wrong and then ask forgiveness. Once saved we are saints, no where in the bible does is talk about that process being reversed. Sins forgiven past, present, future. One act, one time at the cross. Thank you Jesus

[@beagleman123456789]

She a bit crazy. I’m so happy that I’m Jewish ✡️.

[@Will4fun]

This is what I experienced at age 63...and I found it to be TRUE/TRUTH !!!

[@romans6788]

>L.I.N.O.

[@mw2416]

Get this demon off the stage!!

[@bigol9223]

This how your clergy dressing?

[@pipsdontlie3031]

*claims to be a Lutheran* *is an ELCA pastor* Something isn't adding up here.

[@Dilley_G45]

A heretic woman wearing underwear in shirt male hairstyle...tattoos....she is the very OPPOSITE of a biblical pastor.

[@agape1cordova805]

Amen, now maybe Holy Spirit will work in her ( not that He isn't ) and tell her to be modest and cover up a little, Amen? 😉🙏😁

[@markstaley5714]

simul justice et peccator

[@hopefreelutheranenderlinnd2978]

is a description of reality and not an excuse to sin. Romans 6:12 "Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. 13Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness."