Who's "Really" a Xeno Protagonist?

[@Luxin_Xeno]

I got demonetized for using KOS-MOS's theme from Episode III in the members-only upload, so sorry to any members who got this a second time in your sub feeds; this is the same video besides a replaced song. I did also have to cut out a line I accidentally left two versions of in the original edit using KZbin's built-in editor, but it didn't finish processing before I published this, so if the length decreases by a few seconds randomly, that's why.

[@hyliastone286]

Yee no worries. I like the excuse to rewatch tbh

[@ArveEriksson]

Was KOS-MOS's theme from Episode 1 not useful as a replacement?

[@dig1taltoaster]

Bad list Heropon Riki is clearly the protagonist of Xenoblade 1 Shulk is one of the great Heropon Riki's children which is why he has so much focus

[@chipwiseman2]

Future Connected features two of the Heropon's other children, and yet another is a major character in Xenoblade 3 AND Future Redeemed Truly his Noponic legacy is vast

[@Human_01]

Well excuuuuse me! 😂🎶

[@yourtrubers1728]

Dunban is the really daddypon... i mean protagonist... of xbc1.

[@GerardMenvussa]

Luxin is fake fan. BOOMCHIKA-POW!

[@Miguel-jq6ol]

I'm sorry but you're all wrong, you can't have a rainbow without Reyn baby.

[@neogalactic1195]

The real xeno protagonist are the friends we made along the way

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

More like the enemies we made along the way

[@potatoqueen5248]

Sooooooooooo, every party member?

[@lukedelameter7961]

Shut Up Reyn.

[@JoshuaBublin]

You joke, but this is what I love about the Xenoblade series. The relationships between the characters is the best part of each game.

[@TM-45.]

Juju is the real proragonist of the first game

[@faltratte90]

Comes with his own Sidekick Buggy and all.

[@GuardianAngelEatos]

How on earth did Juju become a meme is what I want to know.

[@LocalCatgirl0689]

If Mythra is a protag, Pyra is without question. She split herself in half to protect herself after trauma. Pyra's arc is insanely important to Mythra's, and Mythra's in 2 affects Pyra's as well. Based system rep, but important to note that the way this works you kinda HAVE to count both if you're counting Mythra.

[@anniacal676]

A. Based fellow plurality knower

[@LocalCatgirl0689]

@@anniacal676 As an old, dark-element man once said, INDEED

[@LocalCatgirl0689]

@@Sherkel I have no experience with Gears, but I literally explained why Pyra has to be one of Mythra’s overarching story makes her one.

[@dachking6657]

One of the only arguments I need to say that Mio is also a protagonist alongside Noah are the two amiibo sitting next to my XC3 special edition box.

[@blu3g]

In my opinion, they are clearly designed to both be the central characters, with Noah simply seeming more important because of N, but these Noah and Mio both share the leading role

[@GuardianAngelEatos]

I highly disagree with Mio being a protagonist. Noah I think is clearly the protagonist of the story. The story begins and ends with his narrative and perspective. Mio is one of the two main focuses sure, but she's not a protagonist. The story doesn't focus on her. The only moment where you get a narrative from Mio is the end of chapter 5.

[@Gloomdrake]

@@GuardianAngelEatosyou’re free to disagree. You’re just also wrong

[@GuardianAngelEatos]

@@Gloomdrake That's not how it works. So I am wrong just because you think you are right? Why does your opinion matter and not mine?

[@Gloomdrake]

@@GuardianAngelEatos you’re wrong because you immediately contradicted yourself. “Mio is one of the two main focuses sure, but she’s not a protagonist. The story doesn’t focus on her.” Can’t even keep your story straight

[@3XHS]

Posting this before i see the video: my hot take is that Lin from XCX is at least a protagonist of the game, if not the main character. She has a lot of central meaning to the themes of the game, does all the narration of the game, and has closer connections and vibes of a main character. Of course she's not the primary mascot of the game, so to speak, but narratively I think this fits. Can't wait to have this weird take not justified by the video! (Also yay my boy ziggy gets to be on this list!)

[@Magic_Ice]

I’ve seen some people consider Mythra to be the main protagonist for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (base game + Torna combined) and honestly it makes sense given how important and how much she is a driving force in the games.

[@TheZestyJester09]

Not a driving force, but a blading force

[@rhettmitchell]

@@TheZestyJester09nice

[@MaxM210]

A funny thing about Xc2, is that the game is essentially about Rex realizing he WASN"T the main character of that story. Like, his whole thematic arc is figuring out that Pyra and Mythra were the actual main characters and that his job was to support their story, and not the other way around. In fact its actually a sort of inversion of xc1. Shulk's death technically occurs before Xc1 starts, but from a structural standpoint, he doesn't really die until Dickson shoots him near the end. Pyra/Mythra are given the protagonist's death: the heroic sacrifice at the end of the story, rewarded by biblical-esque resurrection. Rex is given the more typical supporting love interest death, occurring at the very start of the story as the inciting incident and being revived to serve as support for Pyra/Mythra's larger story, very similarly to Fiora. From a structural Standpoint, Pyra and Mythra are the actual protagonists of that story and Rex is their supporting Love interest and deuteragonist. In direct inversion to Shulk's role as Protagonist and Fiora's role as supporting love interest and psuedo-dueteragonist.

[@baked7423]

Yea thats whats so interesting about Xenoblade 2. Tho the narrative and character arcs still surround rex so he'd be the protag based on framing alone but it's interesting how rex basically on a metanarrative level, abandons the role given to him and chooses to do what he pleases and thinks is best for him

[@renren47618]

You can say that Rex is actually the Savior of the entire Xenoblade universe because without his harem everything would've been doomed. Without Mio things would've went way different with Noah and there wouldn't be Matthew and Na'el, nor Glimmer. Probably Alpha at some point would manage to fulfill his plan, and the Ouroboros would never have defeated Moebius Rex was the true MVP

[@drakath5727]

For me, due to the nature of Xenoblade 2's gameplay and the focus on the relationship between Blade and Driver, I tend to consider the protagonists of 2 to be BOTH the main driver and blade of each game. Same rule applies for Lora and Jin. Since Torna was originally going to be a main-game chapter discussing the events of Jin's backstory, I feel confident in calling Mythra a side character since she's taking a backseat narratively after everything that would've happened just prior in Xenoblade 2 if Torna was added as intended before being DLC-ified.

[@GuardianAngelEatos]

I wouldn't call even Pyra a protagonist. There's only one, and that is Rex. Rex is the one it focuses on and starts on, and Pyra isn't there in the beginning either. She's an important character, but she's far from the protagonist. As for Torna, I think Jin in the protagonist since he is the focus, and the story ends with him and his narrative. I don't believe in there being two protagonists with very rare exceptions where there Isn't a clear protagonist such as Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones.

[@Bubble-Foam]

@@GuardianAngelEatos How do you just not believe in stories having multiple protagonists? Also, protagonists aren’t defined by how early or late you see them in the narrative anyway.

[@yourtrubers1728]

Obviously, whoever is in your party at the start of the game is a protagonist. This would include Mumkar, Dickson, Malos, and Jin. Seems pretty straight forward. And Elma is obviously the main protagonist of the entire takahashi singleverse.

[@manupm9161]

Don't forget about Mwamba he's also the protagonist of Xenoblade 3

[@slimballs9650]

Which means Mio, Taion, and Sena don’t count?

[@captianblitz]

Malos and Jin actually join at the same time as Nia, a little bit into Chapter 1. You can do a bit of game play including a few side quests before they join

[@angeldude101]

"singleverse"? Why not "monoverse". It still means the same thing as "single" and "uni", but it's also the same root as both "monolith" _and_ "monad(o)".

[@yourtrubers1728]

@@angeldude101 i didn't think the word universe would relay the idea of unity properly in this context.

[@Gareon155]

I'm really feeling it!

[@Chuunison]

It’s Monado Time

[@Nachtflut]

I may be misremembering, but I believe Nintendo's original marketing Tweets for Torna characters at least called Jin the protagonist of Torna, while Lora was just called "Jin's Driver"

[@baked7423]

you're right, also the back cover of torna says "jin and his driver partner lora"

[@drakewarden7]

Finch is obviously the main character of everything, you all know this.

[@CycloneFox]

About Pied Piper: I've had a short talk about this with Forrest a couple days ago when he was sending me new images for for my fan recreation of Pied Piper. He said that in his opinion, Jan is not the main protagonist of Pied Piper, but actually Melisse is. I would still argue, that the game is more about Jan's backstory, but have to agree a little, that she is the protagonist at the start of the game as well as at the end. If you're wondering what all these names are, Melisse is the leading character in your first playable party in Pied Piper and is the founder of Scientia, the anti-U.M.N. group you know from A Missing Year and Xenosaga episode III. Forrest or フォレスト is the fan mangaka, who made the Xenosaga Pied Piper fan web-manga, which covers the whole game and he is also the character designer for my own fan remake project of the game, which is about 2/3 done.

[@Jazardly]

don't forget how much deus ex machine Alvis pulls in Xenoblade 1 to keep Shulk alive. That's a very active role and he since he's the Monado he has a ton of screen time too.

[@potatofarmergyro1720]

Seeing Mythra as this overarching protagonist of her game(s) like Kos-Mos while they may not be THE protagonists is cool to think about. Both are basically the poster girls of the Xeno series and are some of the most popular characters while also kinda overshadowing the other main protagonists of their stories atleast popularity wise.

[@potatofarmergyro1720]

It is kind of a shame that Rex and Shion aren't as well recognized tho

[@ultimatedumbass4640]

​@@potatofarmergyro1720 Rex is more well recognised nowadays I'd say

[@dingitydang]

My favorite part of the video was when Luxin said "It's Luxin' time" and Luxined all over the place

[@PurpleMonadoBlaze]

I think the main character in Torna is Jin cuz Torna is his backstory about his relationship with Lora and how/why he joins Malos in the base game.

[@Blockio1999]

I think you can argue for Fiora being a co-protagonist of 1 on the admittedly slightly weird angle that her absence is a key part of her characterization; you start the game with ((how things should be)), and the way she shapes and changes Shulk and Reyn through her absence - I forget, who that line belongs to, but someone makes an observation after her return that Shulk and Reyn had a darkness with them that they seemed to not even have noticed themselves while she was gone. Her absence doesn't make her less important, it highlights the role she has always played. It also helps that so much of the key moments of the story happen only once she is revealed to be alive, and then later a party member, and especially the latter part placing so much focus on her journey

[@ShikiRyougi05]

OK BUT HAVE YOU PROGGED SAVAGE YET AND GOTTEN THE EX MOUNTS!?!?

[@TheV8maverick]

Calling KOS-MOS a protagonist because she was supposed to be central to a bunch of games that never got made doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. She's certainly an important character to Xenosaga and Monolith as a whole, and just because she isn't a protagonist in any one game doesn't somehow lessen her character.

[@baked7423]

Agreed, people place too much on the protag moniker when it hardly matters outside whose story is it we're following

[@Kyronex0]

Not really related to the content, but i really like your editing in this video. The visuals line up really well with what you're saying, like timing when you start talking about another character with the cutscene in the background panning to show them. It's very well done

[@EnelXC]

Can I be a xeno protagonist

[@Samusmetroid1986]

You are the speedrunning protagnist

[@anniacal676]

"We have xeno protagonist at home" Xeno protagonist at home:

[@Sherkel]

No, the decision is final! You are an off-seer!

[@williamwood5566]

Xenoblade 2 needs a definitive edition only because we need Nia to have ear physics as well

[@kingdyste5289]

I think that for a few characters mentioned as potential protagonists, they could be argued to be Deuteragonists, aka the 'secondary main character'. Jin in Torna is probably the most obvious example, but you could make an argument for Pyra/Mythra actually having this role in 2, and A in Future Redeemed, or either Mio in 3 or if you consider her the co-protag that the other four playable characters are this.

[@_Galaxymuffin_]

The correct answer is Chaos, no I will not elaborate.

[@PaleozoicBricks]

Fun fact, another way bionicle and xeno are similar is with the most iconic charecters being tahu and kosmos. Both being mascots rather than being protagonists.

[@JohnSmith-lh3ht]

I think Fiora could be considered for co-protagonist status, if it weren't due to certain spoilers, as well as just overall if the game explored more of her character through lenses besides her relationship with Shulk, crucial to Xenoblade 1 though it is as one of the emotional pillars of said story. The heart-to-hearts amend this slightly, but overall, I wish I could disagree and say she's another protagonist, but sadly, she ain't getting past deuteragonist.

[@totalradlad]

I feel like Jr. should also count as a secondary protagonist for the overall Xenosaga series. He's not the _main_ main character in Episode 1/3, but he's still much more of a focus than most of the other characters (especially with the Albedo/Dmitri Yuriev stuff in those games).

[@obewan7155]

Sooo Luxin were right, the next Xeno game IS a re-release of Xenoblade X 😂

[@Elvisbackpack]

Three things can decide if you're a Xeno protagonist, and you can have any or all of them: 1.) Fist fighting 2.) Sword fighting 3.) Big boobs Take a look, it's in a book, Reading Rainbow.

[@angrypepe7615]

*Sad Mio noises*

[@NotRllyDarren]

10:02 “ludicrously inaccessible” game within a ludicrously inaccessible trilogy of games… yeah sounds about right.

[@SpringdayAutumnmoon]

riki is on the save file icon for the wii version of xenoblade 1 so that makes him the true protagonist

[@Greyjap0]

Melia is the party lead for me 90% of the time after her introduction which I think makes her the protagonist, right?

[@maagic2031]

I consider Pyra/Mythra to be the Xenoblade 2 Protagonist over Rex, for everything you said but also a gameplay thing that sort of flies under the radar. KOS-MOS has a signature attack called X Buster. Shulk has Monado Buster. Noah has Overclock Buster wnd the Buster symbol on Final Lucky Seven. Rex does not have a “Buster” attack, but Mythra does with Lightning Buster. That feels a bit intentional to me. But also I guess breaking the two away from Rex is a bit of a lost cause and it would make more sense to call that Driver/Blade unit that they form the protagonist or focal point

[@alexstewart9592]

I would just like to make the observation that while from a narrative point of view Shulk is the clear and singular protagonist of XC1, from a gameplay perspective Melia IS set up to be the secondary protagonist - not only does she have her Elementals making her one of the more complex and interesting characters, she also has Mind Blast, which offers the only alternative to Shulk's Monado Purge for dealing with certain mechanics - and is good enough at that job that the only time it doesn't let you skip out on Monado Purge is the single UM where you can't work around spike damage and have to supress it or use Gems to negate it - and she shares with Shulk the distinction of being able to specifcally flex between damage and team support. Ironically, from the gameplay side Future Connected accidentally breaks the last point by unintentionally gutting Melia's damage-focused builds with the removal of skill trees - her damage builds are somewhat reliant on Elemental Burst hanging around for a while, which means having high Tension, and Melia is simply the worst character at gaining Tension across the entire party unless she has a specific Skill Link that gives her the single best Tension engine in the entire game (an entire LEVEL every five seconds, and ignores Burst Affinity, which Melia is also bad at triggering), so she struggles to get going, and even if she DOES get going, the combination of missing her - 30% aggro during Elemental Burst Skill and Nene missing all of Reyn's Skills means that Melia's aggro generation can be rather problematic, and the lack of the ability to Skill Link into equipping heavy armour combined with the limited gear on the Bionis' Shoulder leaving her even squishier than in the base game doesn't help, meaning that even though Melia-Reyn-Sharla with damage Melia is a perfectly functional team in the base game (I pesonally used it for most of the game once I got to Prison Island, even into the post game), Melia-Nene-Kino with damage Melia simply doesn't work very well. The salt in the wound is that damge Shulk basically has none of these issues, as he simply isn't as reliant on his Skills (several of which are moot because of no Visions) and he has his Shadow Eye to make aggro a non issue even with Nene's aggro limitations - and he even gets to use a 999-999 weapon for the final boss, which Melia simply doesn't get an equivalent to.

[@qwoz2327]

from how i see it a main character is the focal point while the protagonist is the main agitator(?) of the plot, jin and rex would both be the focal points since they're the ones chronicling the journey but the entire narrative throughline of the is held together by mythra and that's if we're really milking the semanticality of this it all comes down to which narrative lenses we're analyzing the story through and honestly im not a stickler and i feel jin, lora, rex and mythra are all entitled to the role depending on what you could argue

[@SearchmanDS]

Well reasoned points, especially with how things went with the Saga games.

[@xenomaxi8504]

I'm really interested to see what themes the protagonist of Xenoblade 4 will carry. Guess we'll have to keep waiting for a teaser with the protag get any idea on that huh?

[@premonitiative]

Um, AcKsHuAlLy, Jin is a party member when you explore the sunken ship in Chapter 1 and outright playable at the beginning of Chapter 8, so you can't say he isn't a party member in the base game.

[@Magic_Ice]

I swear a Nintendo tweet said that Jin is the protagonist of Torna. I don’t have a source right now but I swear they said it once.

[@magicfish8213]

It really is a Source: dude trust me situation

[@lpfan4491]

Nah, it is real. Someone retweeted it in responce to this video a few hours ago, so it is easy to find by looking for "Jin protagonist" and clicking the option to sort tweets by how recent they are.

[@Sherkel]

If you open up Torna after completing it, there's a message somewhere that says "Want to see what happens to Jin next? Play Xenoblade Chronicles 2!" Sadly don't have my Switch right now...

[@KeroKaminaX]

what a great birthday gift for me

[@weewoo1111]

haha i remember you making a tweet about this like a year ago. cool video it was fun topic

[@OfLaSoul]

RIKU.

[@baked7423]

I think one thing about the 'protag' label is people often associate screentime or prominence as a pointer when it's not directly correlated. The fandom also gets to sensitive about how they view characters and this results in people dictating by their own book rather than understanding why a character is a protag. For me, while Saga 2 leans more to Jr, I wouldn't call him a protag but the game just shifting focus. A bit weird cuz it's technically its own game while being a section of the overall story. Similarly, I would say missing year falls under this where there's not really a protag because it's just an interlude not meant to be independent on its own. It's like if we didn't get torna like originally and played jin for a chapter, I would hardly call that protag material. You can be a main character without having to be the protag which I think say Kosmos falls under, same with Pyra/Mythra and like how all of ouroboros are called Main characters If we go by official material only, the protags are Fei, Shion, Ziggy, Shulk, Melia, Rex, Jin, Noah & Mio, and Matthew. All of them either from creators, marketing, or descriptions are viewed as protags. While Lora is the POV, as stated in the vid it's because of narrative reasons for that. There's the whole Driver blade bond which I think muddies it more since whatever the driver does the blade is usually involved and vice versa. Torna ends with Jin's monologue and is meant to be a lead into morytha where we teamup with Jin so it's more seeing jin's journey through lora's eyes. Though because Lora is framed as the POV this is the one i usually dont care if people think it the most. Regardless I think the conversation gets hectic only because people unnecessarily complicate things by how they view importance rather than the way the story is structured and how it is structured around is crucial and a character gaining the spotlight temporarily doesn't mean roles are shifted imo. Think people forget there is a thing called a deuteragonist.

[@victoraponte-jh5ke]

21:51 Yes! Please do that for Trails too! It'd be so awesome! Let people be mad!

[@RefinedAshley]

"How many Super Mario Games are there" energy video

[@StickySerum]

awesome video

[@ranilel]

I could swear I saw a Takahashi interview where he called Jin the protagonist of Torna

[@edwardoliveira1748]

Hey, any chance you'll continue the Xenogears summary videos? Its been on a cliffhanger for years now. T_T

[@DaCrazyHand]

You forgot the true hero of Xenosaga- Allen "Chad" Ridgely!

[@ethermelt4780]

Please do the Trails version! Estelle may be the protagonist, but Joshua is the one with all the JRPG protagonist tropes! Rean may be a protagonist, but Kurt has all the JRPG protagonist tropes! Hell, Dreichels is a JRPG protagonist if you're going by majority criteria!

[@ArveEriksson]

So long as we can agree that Jin Uzuki is the main Brotagonist of the series, I'll just not worry very much over the distinction between protagonist and 'just another character'.

[@spouwnerring]

Hope that the next video is gonna be called "who's "really" a Xeno antagonist?"

[@Samusmetroid1986]

Okay so this is going to sound wild. But are shion amd kosmos like "into" eachother? Im doing research for if xenosaga remake happens and i don't really know.

[@CrystalController]

Riki best heropon of xenoblade is the main protagonist of the trilogy, riku potentially rikis grandson? The heropon legacy continues

[@hermannator1]

ive only played gears and blade so i cant talk on sagas protags but for me a xeno protagonist is the main character(s) of a named story so like the DLC and future connected have there own protags gears: fei XC1: shulk XCFC: melia (i know its short but i love it) XCX: its elma not really your self insert XC2: rex XCTtGC: i personally think its jin but lora is also an acceptable answer as a whole it pick pyra/mythra to be the protags of the 2 duology as a whole XC3: noah and mio XCFR: matthew

[@FireFury190]

Surprised you didn’t talk about how Reyn was originally supposed to be a co-protagonist for XC1’s initial story. Before they changed it and developed the story more as it focused more on Shulk.

[@cactusmomma]

Now do videos for Gears and Saga!

[@elvishcyborg4275]

Truly the Xenoprotag Chronicles

[@greenhunter473]

I 100% agree that Mio is the secondary protagonist of Xenoblade 3. She is my favorite character from the game and is bare-none the most important character of Xenoblade 3's story after Noah. However my only issue is that they retroactively under-billed Pyra and Mythra in Xenoblade 2. Mio is always billed as equally the protagonist to Noah in Xenoblade 3's marketing, but when you actually play the game it's clear that Noah is the "main" protagonist while Mio is secondary. Meanwhile Pyra and Mythra are indeed billed as the main Blades of Xenoblade 2, but it's always Rex alone who is billed as the protagonist of the game, when Pyra and Mythra are more equal to Rex within the story of Xenoblade 2 (if not greater than him) than Mio is to Noah in Xenoblade 3. My only guess is that they didn't really want to bill a character you don't have direct control over as a protagonist despite that effectively being the case. Also I agree with your take that Mythra could be considered the protagonist of Xenoblade 2 as a whole (not to undersell Rex, he is my favorite mainline Xenoblade protagonist.)

[@IseFormal751]

Hello Luxin

[@TARDISES]

21:53 Responding to the promise of a Trails equivalent... calling it now, you'll be putting CS4 on the "multiple protagonist" game list because of act 1.

[@crystalcove99]

I feel a lot of stuff could be cleared up if you talked about the "deuteragonist" role, which quite simply is just "the most important character save for the protagonist." I'm not gonna argue for or against any of what you said in the video, but I feel a lot of characters that "feel like they could be considered a protagonist" could be considered a deuteragonist. My takes: Xenogears - Protagonist: Noah, Deuteragonist: Elly Xenosaga - it's been too long since I've played Xenosaga so I won't speak on it Xenoblade 1 - Protagonist: Shulk, Deuteragonist: maybe Fiora Future Connected - Protagonist: Melia, no real deuteragonist... it's just her story Xenoblade X - sorry, i've not played. however, protagonist is totally Elma Xenoblade 2 - Protagonist: Rex, Deuteragonists: Pyra and Mythra Torna - Protagonist: Lora, Deuteragonist: Jin Xenoblade 3 - Protagonist: Noah, Deuteragonist: Mio Future Redeemed: Protagonist: Matthew, Deuteragonist: honestly idk, maybe A?

[@rin_reverie]

Luxin from Luxin…. Yeag….

[@richardpham8932]

Please do a trails version. i want to see people flip there shit over your hot takes.

[@a_creatorsstuff17]

A few years ago, i would contest the xenoblade X opinion, but if there is anything Ultrakill has taught me in recent times, is that the protagonist can be the antagonist for all i care, playable main character does NOT equal protagonist, even if Cross was the catalist for the plot Other media made me think the protagonist may not even be present to be the protagonist

[@hx615]

I just realize 2's characters are streets above 1&3.

[@drakewarden7]

I do think that Pyra should be counted for base game XC2 based off of how much importance to the narrative she has. Her request (and Mythra's previous actions and very existence) is the driving force behind the entire plot, after all.

[@TheV8maverick]

Her request is about as textbook a definition of the call to action as you could possibly have; which would make Rex the protagonist

[@jayjaysheroah2485]

Sooo Luxin anything to say on monolithsoft tweeting that theyre recruiting people for a "new rpg"?

[@Sherkel]

What do you MEAN Dmitri Yuriev wasn't a protagonist in Future Redeemed?! He faced off against Zed and lost an eye and an arm!

[@hezitation4868]

It would be so funny if an entire cast got the big red sword in the next game making this topic an even bigger mess.

[@asprinjuice425]

Lol your tone at the start of the video almost made you sound like Sheba

[@ludicrousswirl4364]

OST at 10:48?

[@ivanzoneBR24]

Hello, Im kinda new to the channel and to Xenoblade at all basically, I know some spoilery stuff about the whole trilogy, specially XC2 but the only game I played was Torna the Golden Country through the physical version. I love that game so much in so many areas, like the locations, the music, the story and specially the characters, Lora is an amazingly written character and she was very likeable and cool, Jin is also very interesting and has great dynamic with Lora and the whole party is excellent too, they are like a big family. Do this channel occasionaly talk about Lora or Torna in the vídeos? Or it doesn't have too much of a presence, because Xenoblade 3 is more relevant? I just wanna know, cause I would like to learn more stuff about these topics.

[@Samusmetroid1986]

Its useally more whats new for xeno stuff and random question like this video.

[@ultimatedumbass4640]

He used to make a lot of XC2 vids. I binged quite a fair few of em again at the beginning of the year.

[@MioAppreciator]

10:05 kingdom hearts fans be like "first time?"

[@WildspeakerYT]

"People dont like consider games have more than 1 protagonist" Me: All 6 main party members of XC3 are protagonists 👌

[@Zek3nator]

If Tatsu isn’t your favorite Xeno protagonist then you failed at life.

[@freewheaties]

I don’t get why people think future connected is it’s own story Like it’s just a bonus chapter after the end of xc1 I don’t think considering fc to be the same as torna or future redeemed makes sense

[@lpfan4491]

It has its own beginning, progression and end. You cannot even carry over anything from DE and you can play it first if you really want to. By all accounts, it is its own entry in every way that matters.

[@freewheaties]

@@lpfan4491they don’t let you use your old save because DE is a remaster of an old game and they wanted to let returning players play the new content first And compared to the other expansions fc has a really short story where basically the only thing that happens is Melia getting more development and some very cryptic foreshadowing for future redeemed. Torna and Future Redeemed are clearly their own stories set in the world of the game they are a dlc of, I can’t say the same for fc.

[@fen6300]

Mio is a deuteragonist rather than a protagonist.

[@HankKD7]

I'm an outsider so I think a protagonist it doesn't suit to be just one. There's a known difference between extroverted and introverted.

[@RSanchez111]

I'm the real Xeno protagonist In XCX

[@hectorlackless]

I just wished that Mio had the same focus as Noah gameplay wise, the guy gets the most broken power in the game and 2 extra arts and she just gets a suboptimal extra art. Why xenoblade?! Why?!

[@ItchTAS]

counter argument, its reyn time its always reyn time

[@kos-mos2084]

KOS-MOS is bigger than the protagonist. She’s the mascot of Monolith Soft as a whole. I do agree that she can be considered the protagonist alongside Shion even if Shion is definitely the protagonist. Mio and Noah are both protagonists 100%. They build off eachother in so many ways. Lora is by far the main character in Torna. You learn about her in the base game and then she’s the character you start with in Torna. Your points on Fei and Elly make a lot of sense so no argument there. Xenoblade 1 protagonist is obviously Shulk. Fiora goes missing for near the entire game so it’s not possible to call her a protagonist alongside Shulk, imo. Rex is definitely the main character in 2.

[@stupogo0]

wait Elma isn't commonly accepted as the real protagonists of X?

[@thefloppybigo1755]

Bro, future redeemed's protagonist is definitely Dillon

[@quiddity131]

I would argue Mio is even more of a protagonist than Noah. She is more important to the plot than him and is the one that’s related to characters from another game.

[@AwsmNix]

I’m guessing based on the names you used that you did give away spoilers for character name reveals. Maybe stick to their *beginning* name and not refer to them by spoilers lol

[@Alban_Blade_Memer]

Here is my predictions for the main character Mental problem Here is my prediction for the girl main character Sacrifice herself but somehow come back to life

[@JustJulyo]

Nopons are always the protagonista and antagonists

[@davefromaccounting1983]

guys do you think Fei Fong Wong is a Xeno protagonist?

[@cldpt]

KOS-MOS is already a protagonist on X, so there is no need for her to be a protagonist on Saga. Saga is EL-MA's origin story. #CONTENTIOUS

[@Gabe_29]

Nah, you're wrong. These are the real main characters: • XC: Reyn • XCX: Tatsu • FC: Nene and Kino • XC2: Turters • TTGC: Minoth • XC3: Fiona • FR: Sienna Morgan

[@mysteriouscolours1532]

Yes the radio lady

[@uncario]

I wonder why they changed “Laura” to “Lora” in the localization… Laura seems like a perfectly fine name in English to me.

[@veetijaakkola1200]

Probably cause the name is so common, that the character's name wouldn't be recognisable. (Also im like 90% there already was a Laura in xc2 somewhere else)

[@homina.homina]

Fei fong wong ❤

[@ethermelt4780]

I would argue that KOSMOS is the macguffin, not the protagonist.

[@DifféranceHorizon]

Idc.....A IS MY PROTAG AND LOVE INTEREST