Lying to Police After Discovering a Graphic Crime | Jill Halliburton-Su

Jill Halliburton-Su was found in the bath tub of her home, in a very graphic state. Her son found her, and immediately the lies began. However, did he really have something to do with it? Or was the real perpetrator still out there?
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[@ThatChapter]

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[@arcadefireeeeeee]

Ur a Brit

[@JF-NYC-NJ-Girl]

Thank you!!

[@katryna192]

Brilliant thank you

[@DJMarcO138]

Mike...I am moving from Tex-ass to Flori-duh. Pray for me that I don't wind up as one of your stories.

[@VarieDei]

Thank you for last Irish story 🥰 and I'm asking for moooore 😁

[@Trashious12345]

So bizarre. The son jumped to say it was suicide, the dad jumped to say it was the son, the suspect jumped out of the court, and the dog never jumped at all.

[@lhertzler1325]

😄

[@tanmaree1290]

🤣🤣

[@rogcat7181]

🤣

[@Andrea93nyc]

this comment is the best one 😂

[@KDiamond666]

You deserve more likes this is too funny 😂😂😂😂 🥇

[@DBlairMusic]

The idea that you see a stranger dressed for trouble in your house on the security feed and don’t immediately call the police seems incredibly strange to me.

[@indifferentadvocate1737]

People who lack street smarts will often make weird decisions when they are faced with a serious emergency. And in all fairness, he called his son because he thought it was his son on the footage.

[@antisocialal4799]

@@indifferentadvocate1737 Yeah, but once you find out that the man wasn’t his son, he should have called the police right away.

[@ChadDidNothingWrong]

not really. Ive definitely seen police act in such a way that would make me fearful that they would shoot my wife on accident. It lead me to look up some statistics on it once that really scared me tbh. Alot of departments wont even give an officer re-training after they shoot your wife because she was shaking too much. Current training has them shoot her immediately if she startles them--even if there is cover available to evaluate first. Qualified immunity guarantees that the officer will only be judged by his colleagues rather than people like you and others in the community, I would maybe call wife first, then neighbor (or maybe just the neighbor--im the one he would call too.) it depends on what my gut would be telling me in the moment.

[@trailertrish]

yeah, like why even have a camera then? 😂

[@tiggerwiley1709]

Some never consider calling police

[@amymccammon9078]

I see a masked person in my house on camera, the thing I DO NOT DO is let my child go see what the situation is. Wtf??

[@mandalynn410]

Right, a lot of this makes no sense.

[@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206]

Ya! My first thought was, it's totally the dad/husband! I may have to listen again as I feel like I must've missed some details since I was trying to listen at work.

[@navbravic1355]

Yeah, based on what was presented here, I'm surprised the father/husband wasn't in the crosshairs more. His claim of seeing someone _in real time_ break into his house on Nest is EXTRAORDINARILY unlikely. And then he went on to try to implicate his own son, which is very very odd. Obviously a youtube video can't possibly cover everything. We don't know the whole story. But based on the info presented here, he seemed like the most likely culprit. It's likely he was ruled out for good reason that just wasn't mentioned in this video, but, yeah, definitely seems weird.

[@ardinsalim9048]

Well if I'm an elderly who knew little of technology, I would ask help from my ADULT son to help me checking it out.

[@amymccammon9078]

@@ardinsalim9048 you'd send your family member into a house with a masked intruder that you've already seen on camera because you need him to help you with the technology?

[@teresareynolds4364]

The most important fact is that right off the bat, " The dog was sleeping "

[@josephc427]

Exactly, had to be somebody familiar

[@elizbethcook8223]

I had a dog that was so dumb, he played fetch with the burglars that stole almost everything I owned. He was a sweet dog but he didn’t have 2 brain cells.

[@andrewshell2262]

@@elizbethcook8223he played fetch with the burglars? Thats wild lol

[@alexacloud1245]

Seriously, some dogs are really not with it, could be considered just dumb.

[@gabebriggs6031]

Doesn't mean anything.,... What he went to house and got dogs trusted it's big house could of locked dog in another room.... Then dog went sleep they don't tell us age of dog neither old deaf dog....

[@jessielovesdogs3272]

The dad…just his not calling the cops and having his young son go home while he sees an active burglary taking place is odd as heck to me. Just weird. And horribly sad

[@stickyskittles101]

you’d think he wouldn’t want to put his son in a dangerous position

[@ricardopereira2746]

Yeah but nonetheless this is one more case that exemplifies why police should never go in with preconceived ideas. Imagine that there was no DNA evidence...that kid would be screwed.

[@Joelswinger34]

And suspicious.

[@RM-xf9gi]

The dad thought it was the son playing around. The dad knows it's his son that killed his wife.

[@RM-xf9gi]

​@@ricardopereira2746 the kid did kill his mother. He was just lucky that a burglar was in the house also.

[@Ronsonator]

So what I really want to know is if that detective changed his career afterwards.

[@torretagestad6181]

Nope he doubles down in a dateline interview. Guy sucks.

[@kaylajones9648]

I swear that's the same thing I wanna know 🤣

[@pamelacooke489]

Yes me too! Did Justin get his apology cos they were calling it so early!!!

[@aidenhall2508]

Definitely didn’t apologize and definitely didn’t consider a career change haha cops are too proud to apologize unless they’re in trouble

[@Azby64]

I doubt there exists a diagram merging detectives cocky enough to slam everything onto someone from the get go with qualities like sympathetic hindsight.

[@christopherholly1392]

We need a follow-up: what became of the son & Dad? Did the son ever get an apology from the detective? Did the detective change careers? Did they pursue any sort of lawsuit for emotional duress? Did the son ever get a lawyer, or was he held 'til the DNA came back?

[@JBoog-hk4cj]

He was let go after 11 hours of interrogation.. he was never arrested. They were doing the same thing to the dad in another room and neither asked for an attorney.

[@m.m.1933]

Fully agree! I personally thought Justin was innocent the whole time (i put myself in his shoes at that age in a sense and he didn't seem to be faking in the interrogation room*) and he deserves an apology at the least! I hope he's doing well despite such a tragic situation with his Moms horrible murder* And such a unbelievable story overall * She was a lovely person it's beyond terrible ❤

[@SidecarHero1]

YES! I was thinking the same thing.

[@helvetecaLLC]

My thoughts exactly!

[@JBoog-hk4cj]

@@m.m.1933 When you can get a kid to say “I want my mommy”. He was at full stress mode and the one person he wanted was no longer around.

[@drhexagonapus]

I wonder if that detective ever changed careers like he promised if the son was not guilty

[@ThumbsUpKitty]

Ya! We need a follow up on that lol. Also if he could throw in an insurance policy dance for our pleasure even though that wasn't the case! 😄

[@sarebear1592]

He was still there to interview Deonte I noticed... Dirty pig lol

[@a.r5079]

I know, right!! Damn.

[@ThumbsUpKitty]

@@sarebear1592 He should be called out on his lies! 😂

[@sarebear1592]

@@ThumbsUpKitty agreed ! Also agree on the life insurance policy dance 🪩 haha Mike's the best 😊

[@Rachw0101]

I feel like the dad was trying to set his son up, why would you send your child to a house that apparently has some weird creepy dude walking around inside and then be so quick to describe someone who looks just like your son.

[@mrksimka1159]

And then DNA of completely random person "being discovered" there by forensics. I feel professor had connection to make this DNA appear eh? I also think they should look into this Termite man he either used his son as a weapon or a fall guy and then changed gears imo.

[@joesiah693]

Exactly what I was thinking! Plus how personal the attack was...I mean the black kid wasn't a Saint but didn't have any history of something that violent. The attack was clearly personal. Plus he was so calm in the interview, you wouldn't have assumed the dudes wife just got murdered. I'm guessing they had some way to prove he wasn't there. It's very odd

[@idylledoll]

I totally agree and the son's reaction to the interrogation was completely normal to me, he was so panicked and confused.

[@someonerandom256]

The way he answered TOO quickly that his son was the only one besides him who had camera access, the way his video surveillance subscription had just lapsed, yet he conveniently happened to catch someone who looked like his son doctoring the cameras but didn't call the police. They are saying he has no motive, but he's the one with the money, and if he divorced his wife she might have gotten a big chunk. I just feel like he might have hired someone to do it, hoping his troublesome son would get blamed? Two birds out of the way with one stone. However, the young man who was convicted was highly intelligent and seems very manipulative and charismatic. I think he has the potential to be a VERY dangerous person. I could see someone raised with a very hard working mom barely ably to make ends meet, breaking into the home of a wealthy woman and finding her lounging around in the middle of the day and getting very angry and killing her because of it. I'm not convinced that either of them did it or were involved but either scenario seems possible.

[@Leanie421]

Wow that is what I was thinking,why didn’t they integrate the dad like they did the son,and I’m not even sure the other guy did it and he got life,wow only god knows.may this woman rest in peace 🙏

[@feliciafawcett3802]

My mind goes back to the father. He was pretty quick to throw his own son under the bus.

[@onionheadguy7094]

Maybe he thought that if he'd kill his mom, he wouldn't think twice about killing his dad either.

[@glow1815]

Dad did not said his son did it. His dad said " he is skinny and looked white" The cop tried to make him confuse by staying his dad said it was him.

[@jessielovesdogs3272]

@@onionheadguy7094 eh?

[@JanBee1122]

@@glow1815 His dad was asked who else (besides himself!) knew where the cameras were. He didn't hesitate even a nano-second to say "My son!" with exclamation intended. Plus, he just happened to "look" when the so-called intruder was in the house (no evidence, just his word), and he sent his son there to discover his mother in the tub. Sick and twisted, my money is on the father all the way. You think a guy who works in a lab all day doesn't know how to frame someone?

[@nemoxeno8112]

I think the father did it. I think he was upset at his wife for "coddling their lazy son." He left the hot water running to obscure the time of death and give himself an alibi. He sends his son to the scene of crime and tells the police someone matching the son's description disabled the cameras. I mean, if the son had not been on camera on his way home he would have been charged with his mother's murder. That's just my guess.

[@havedrill1]

What I didn’t hear anyone mention was Why? It wasn’t a robbery. he had nothing to gain.

[@vegan_guac]

Exactly! And for someone who never committed a violent crime before, this would be quite a big leap.

[@battlereadyarmour2362]

Evil thoughts and lies perpetrate the soul via saturn..... ur=a.... spiritual warfare

[@reallyrics3177]

I don’t think he did it 😢

[@bongy59]

Maybe the dad put a hit out on his wife and tried to set the son up

[@rabbott9938]

No motive

[@whade62000]

This feels like dad getting rid of a useless son. - Conveniently, only he dad saw the intruder - He calls the son instead of the police when he sees a masked intruder in the house - Points the finger on him to the police immediately All information about the description of the intruder and who'd know what's where in the house came from the dad

[@pgbrown12084]

So wait, the dad saw the guy in the cameras, then called his son. Wouldn't he have been able to see his son answer the phone in the house if it was him?

[@alrightyru]

That's exactly what I thought! He'd be watching the person answer the phone and say hello ...!

[@notna4081]

hmmmmmm

[@kandycepeterson2482]

Nice.

[@stancexpunks]

I was literally about to comment this exact same thing but maybe the “intruder” had unplugged all the cameras by then?

[@kathyfisher155]

And the father would definitely be able to tell if the intruder was black or white…

[@KarenSmith-pc8ji]

So… did the detective who was interviewing the son change careers after the verdict? 🤔 It’s a very sad case and my heart goes out to the family. May Jill Rest In Peace.

[@SueP-D]

That was my thought too!

[@fljpopguy]

Came here to ask the very same question. (^_^)

[@Piss_Pistofferson]

F**K NO! Pigs have no honor. No integrity. No character. A pig's word is s**t. If a pig gives his word, it's as good as him giving you a turd. Most detectives are interested in just closing a case. Not interested in whether or not it's the correct suspect.

[@KarenSmith-pc8ji]

@@SueP-D Yep. If I had to guess, I’d say nope. That wasn’t a very smart statement on his part imo.

[@KarenSmith-pc8ji]

@@fljpopguy We’ll probably never know… but I’m thinking he’s still there, interrogating more people.

[@angelwings7930]

The POS dad saw a stranger in the house on a security camera….and sent his own kid into that house ??? Instead of calling the cops. Risked his son’s life. What an absolute POS.

[@djc6323]

Because the hired deleter was suppose to unalive the wife and kid leaving Pops all the cash 🤔

[@unc54]

Because he believed that was his son on camera. He didn't believe there had been an intruder until his son called about finding the mom's body.

[@angelwings7930]

@@unc54 No. Once he realized something was off he called his son and had him go home and check things out. Yes there’s some confusion that initially happened.

[@angelwatching1921]

@@djc6323 people don’t seem to understand the part of the case where it was very well explained that although she was a Haliburton, she didn’t have Halliburton money. She was disconnected from that part of her family. They left her nothing. They made their own careers. They were successful In their own right

[@djc6323]

@@unc54 So he saw who he thought was his son but unsure and didn’t immediately hangup and call the police.

[@tighecrovetti2844]

I dunno...if my dad told me to go home and check on the house, the master bath IS probably the last thing I'd go check, and upon seeing a person in the tub in blood-filled water, I'd also assume it was suicide at first. A lot of the lying seems consistent with a kid whose parents keep saying they're disappointed in him so he makes up stuff to cover up anything that looks like 'slacking.'

[@fishbowlheretic]

yep. i can relate to him. i did the sleeping in the car bit, too, when i was pretending to go to college. ended up programming myself to lie about it.

[@sarcasm-83]

If my father had told me there's a guy in a mask at the house, bathtub would not be the first place to look for sure, but because of that, suicide wouldn't be my thought at all when finding someone injured or dead. No idea how others wouldn't connect it to that immediately...

[@syferz]

@@sarcasm-83 Did the father tell him that or that the cameras were unplugged? Did he think his mother unplug the cameras, and his father just thought it was him? All this case shows is that if you have a friend check out a knife you have, then get it back carefully and put it in a ziplock, you can frame them for murder in Florida. I wonder if the cops even checked that community's entrance camera for the second guy.

[@fiofiofioletta1898]

Maybe he was throwing out drugs. Like a dumb selfish kid. I don’t know but if I were on the jury, there would be too much reasonable doubt. I wouldn’t vote to convict. At least his crying was convincing. That trips up psychopaths so much-they don’t know how to convincingly fake grief.

[@Dinkbass]

I feel this. I had to walk a very thin Line with my words growing up lest I shatter my parents fragile egos

[@PlAiNJaNe521]

I'm just 16min in but I'm shocked at how fast they just dismissed the husband of any involvement basically. Like wow. Maybe check some phone records or something first.

[@ursodermatt8809]

i am sure they did

[@maryjanerx]

Father must have paid them off. He obvs did it

[@ursodermatt8809]

@@maryjanerx i think you are the culprit

[@plantitude8042]

@@maryjanerx Just what I was thinking, about the payoff anyway.

[@17thknight]

​@@maryjanerx he obviously planted the DNA of a known burglar whose exact MO was to not only rob wealthy houses but to also do it by that exact entry method? And he did all this magic while an hour away at work? Dateline covered this ten times better, this is literally the single worst video Mike has ever made. Anyone familiar with this case knows what a piss poor job he did in this research

[@Mayorofsexytown1303]

The reaction of the father after seeing an intruder is crazy. Not immediately calling the cops and sending your son to check instead of going home yourself. Then blaming your son. Fishy. Horrible Detectives.

[@stephanie5249]

Ya that got my spidey senses tingling for SURE. I have a doorbell and back yard camera that I check on periodically when I’m away. If I saw something fishy, I would be on the phone to 911 IMMEDIATELY. If my daughter was near by I would then call her to tell her NOT to go to the house where the bad shiz might be going down. Seeing a masked intruder and then calling a loved one to go check it out is extremely bizarre

[@Syndrum]

He called his son thinking it was him on the camera. He 100% thought it was his son goofing off.

[@atlasbonds6095]

​@@Syndrum But once his son said it wasn't him, he still didn't call 911. Wtf. It's like he didn't care about his wife's wellbeing.

[@RosieWilliamOlivia]

Very very fishy.

[@Syndrum]

@@atlasbonds6095 I feel you, I think the father thought his son was bullshitting him, though. Who knows. But the father had an alibi. The son was seen on camera only getting there after the fact. An odd family, yeah. But the only evidence was pointed at the guy currently in jail for life.

[@sandram2974]

The ending of this one was so abrupt. I was expecting there to be a twist saying that it was actually the dad that did it. He was so quick to implicate his son during his interview.

[@toddkohut5993]

Maybe we’ll get an update some day.

[@tillitsdone]

The whole thing with the father is just fishy. Just thinking as a dad myself; I would have done the complete opposite of this guy at every turn.

[@ursodermatt8809]

@@tillitsdone yeah right, you do not know what you will do in the future.

[@_Dawson_]

🐀

[@Undrconst]

@@ursodermatt8809 it’s not hard to know you won’t set up your kids. Maybe you can’t relate to that type of love.

[@1c9r9i8]

I really hate that hostile way of interrogating... I can't help but imagine me being innocent and being hounded like that. It's horrifying

[@vladtheimpala5532]

One of them was definitely innocent and they hounded both of them so they definitely hounded an innocent man. If you’re ever accused of a crime clam up until you have a lawyer.

[@dane947]

You ever see that one TC vid of Ryan Waller, where they were hostile to the innocent kid and THEN they found the real reason he was being incoherent? I left out the reason so to not spoil. It was crazy like this.

[@F_Tim1961]

about the sentence - it's clear that in the first prosecution the State gave the jurors the option of lesser included offense. The jury reached a verdict but then the foreperson threw the verdict by announcing it was not HER verdict. That forced a new trial. I've never heard of this happening before. So Dayante was retried.

[@toriagiro9519]

@@dane947yes, I was so furious about that. Nothing will bring that poor man back, but I don’t remember if the police had any real consequences. It makes me furious though.

[@phatnana2379]

That's why, even if you absolutely KNOW your're innocent, DO NOT talk to the police without a lawyer.

[@rachaelleann9847]

The son reacted as if his dad hadn't mentioned there was someone in the house at all. I think the dad set this up and get his son up knowing it happen and how the DNA of someone else truly could've been planted or just a mess up as it does happen. Idk about this one. Someone needs to truly figure it all out. If that boys innocent of this murder then he needs to be freed!

[@5.kc.5]

​@@One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All he has been caught numerous times as seen. Plus what kinda POV is that. Because of burglary he should be in jail for a crime he didn't commit? Assuming he's innocent obviously

[@Daisy_Dobby]

Maybe he hoped that his son would get killed too???

[@rebeccabejenaru]

@kcbeatz32 the MO doesn't match and I'm wondering how this could be wrong.

[@TheTelly]

This is exactly what I thought

[@kate_is_great]

The dad didn't have a motive.

[@ZombieSazza]

What I find strange is how Mr Su just happened to be checking the cameras at that time, which weren’t recording due to not paying a subscription, then sent his son to check the house knowing there was an immediate danger, his sons knives specifically being used in the crime, just not calling 911 at all to try and save his wife’s life..? Then pushing the police into thinking it was his son, it just feels like the father is trying to set up his son here. The young man reacted reasonably in my opinion, he’s accused by the police of killing his mother whom he clearly loved dearly, he’s basically being pushed into a corner and forced to defend himself, by cops who refuse to believe anything he says, refusing to consider another point of view. It broke my heart hearing him cry “I love my mommy”, especially hearing just how heartless these cops were acting towards him, talking down to him like he’s dirt, shouting in his face. Good case of why you should ALWAYS get a lawyer, because this is just dehumanising and horrible to watch. I hope that cop actually considers a career change, he tunnel visioned HARD on an innocent kid who was grieving the loss of his mother. The whole thing basically stinks, why was the father watching the cameras at that exact moment? Why did he send his son into apparent danger? Why did he push police towards thinking it was his son? I’m just extremely suspicious of Mr Su here, obviously this is just an opinion, I can’t prove guilt etc, but I’m just sus of the whole situation.

[@rebeccagable9629]

Great comment.

[@carboncopy4183]

Why on earth would you buy cameras that required a subscription to record? Data storage can't be that hard to setup locally.

[@kenkozawa9810]

@Carbon Copy I have ring and I pay for a subscription, it is nice to not have to worry about setting up your own storage. They cover 4 cameras for us and keep everything for 90 days iirc (we've caught porch pirates, plenty of random occurrences and awesome moments). My foreigner parents are cheap asses so they don't pay for a subscription for their ring doorbell cam, but any time they see something suspicious on live view they start screen recording on their phones. It isn't all that farfetched to just rely on live view. This case was very strange either way, the father's action were certainly odd.. I know my parents would have instantly screenshotted anything they saw, very confusing for him not to..

[@PabloandHumans]

The husband had EVERYTHING to do with this! Wish that he would just f*n snitch that gook out

[@carboncopy4183]

@@kenkozawa9810 ah fair enough, didn't realize it was ring. I'd prefer to have full ownership of recordings in or around my home personally.

[@marni803]

This whole case is baffling. I felt like everyone involved was lying in one way or another. I’m curious as to what her life insurance policy came out to….

[@scorch4299]

I found it hard not to laugh at the son's interview. He is so very clearly lying. He cant even keep his story straight on the same day. Also, when a father blames a son, that says A LOT because most fathers would not implicate their son, even if the father had been the murderer. That just doesnt happen often. I dont know if the black guy is invovled, but I tend to doubt it.

[@brunoquelhas8786]

@@scorch4299 And I hope you never get to be a detective. 😁

[@chonkcat7362]

@@scorch4299 You should keep in mind this is true crime entertainment. If you watch the actual full length interviews, the dad was not attempting blame him the way this was edited to seem.

[@ayameisastar]

What would the life insurance policy matter when the family is already rich? Rich people don’t murder for paltry life insurance money unless they’re in debt, which would’ve been mentioned if the police had uncovered any financial issues

[@melissasabie722]

@@chonkcat7362 mike wasnt trying to edit it to seem like that, the police were trying to get the son to confess to it by tricking him into thinking his dad was “talking“ in the other room

[@Melody_On_Pawz1]

The dad said the intruder was white and thin. The son and dad didn’t call the police when they knew a stranger was in the house .

[@DannyWilliamH]

Right. Further, if there is one thing I know it's that in this country money can often buy a lot of things. All it takes is the right officer to do a solid or take a bribe. Dad sees an intruder, confirms it's NOT the son, doesn't call police, sends son to investigate, son looks all around the house before finding her in the bathtub, he doesn't call police, he calls dad back and only then do they call the police. Just weird.

[@DriftKingfromTekken3]

Yeah but, he was asking people to make alibi's for him. And his DNA was there. What this video fails to mention is that water is very damaging to DNA.

[@hurpaderpp]

people always say the person who did it is a race that they dont belong to

[@BrookeKatherine.]

@@DriftKingfromTekken3Did you not hear that it wasn’t found on the knife in the tub or bathroom. It was found in the entry way, on a belt, and the knife dropped on the way out.

[@stephannielee2182]

How much could he really see with a ski mask on? Dad got it wrong. DNA got it right.

[@gr8fuldeb699]

I feel that the dad telling the son to go home before calling 911 is so bizarre especially since what he claimed to have seen on the security camera. I hope they didnt convict the wrong man. Its a reason I could never be on a jury. I do not want to determine the fate of someone.

[@ginanotafan1039]

I ignore jury duty notices for the same reason. Apparently 80% of the ppl in my city do the same, the city put out this big thing about it. Sorry, City, but who am I to judge Anyone?! No thnks!💀

[@ginanotafan1039]

Also, I think this guy is innocent. I think the son did it. Jmo. Obvs I can't know. But that's my gut instict.

[@Inspectorzinn2]

@@ginanotafan1039 Letting the incompetent 20% judge is worse. Many innocent people are convicted probably because the 80% are clowns ignoring jury summons.

[@kenna_smi]

​@Gina(Not A Fan) pretty sure ignoring jury duty summons can get you into trouble

[@greengoblin876]

@@kenna_smi apparently not for 80% of her city .

[@christinedesimone6194]

Detective: "If I find out I'm wrong, I'd seriously consider a career change." So I assume that cop is painting houses now?

[@pinrod1]

Yeah right, cops never get held accountable, they do/say something stupid, and get a promotion 🤦

[@St.Linguini_of_Pesto]

@Christine DeSimons ROFLMMFAO, I sure as eff hope so.. he'd be lucky to get employment as a picking up trash.

[@srb2591]

Nah he's off insisting he's right on some other poor slob

[@MicovskiMC]

I wouldn't trust he would be able to do a good job at that either .

[@goodcitizen-ft9bg]

I think cops should serve the same amount of time the falsely accused person had to serve

[@Isaidwhatisaiddear]

This entire case needs to be reopened and handled by a competent department. There’s a strong possibility that the guy in prison didn’t do it. And the dad and the son had very strange and slow reactions for an apparent intruder being in the home..

[@meisteremm]

There is a strong possibility that the guy whose DNA was found at the crime scene and in other parts of the house, had a history of breaking into and robbing houses in the area, escaped from custody and tried to get people on the outside to lie for him did not do this. Okay, sure. What possibility would that be?

[@Isaidwhatisaiddear]

@@meisteremm just because the guy is a trash individual, it doesn’t mean he did it. I’m not saying he wasn’t there, I’m just saying that the son and the dad seem to have something to do with it. Look at how chill the dad was while he was interviewed. He didn’t once mention how distraught he was about his wife. I think he may have instructed his son and told him to bring a friend. There’s no way the son didn’t know that guy who’s locked up right now. But hey, it’s all speculation 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@meisteremm]

@Barbie’s stepsister You're right, it is ALL speculation. What isn't speculation is DNA evidence, which is what they have at the house and the crime scene.

[@hhealy7199]

A white guy would have been found guilty at the first trial. No one would have been saying I don't want to convict this young white guy to prison.

[@Jabarri74]

@@meisteremm Chill guys this case makes no sense. From what we know from my perspective as a white UK resident anyone could have done it. The family was weird I'm sure the other guy played a part but even the father described the intruder as white not black. Maybe there was 2 of them I dunno the case is far from solved imo

[@tvc380]

I knew the son didn't do it as soon as I heard the 911 call, so i hope that detective found a different line of work. The husband did some really questionable things, and i wonder.

[@KvDenko]

Him screaming "mommy" really got me, idk he sounded genuine

[@BrookeKatherine.]

The 911 call is what makes him look the worst in my opinion.

[@tvc380]

@@BrookeKatherine. Good thing you're not a detective.

[@virginnocence]

I can't know for sure. There's so much room to doubt in each scenario

[@Team33Team33]

@@BrookeKatherine. And then he lied to the police during interrogation !!! He's as dumb as the dog that didn't wake up.

[@sierrakobold6896]

The investigation in the beginning with interrogations to the son is the exact reason why you never speak to detectives without a lawyer present. Always, always immediately tell police I need a lawyer

[@nobbynoris]

Xackly.

[@goodcitizen-ft9bg]

I mean I thought he did it 3 mins in to the video

[@sierrakobold6896]

@@goodcitizen-ft9bg so did I lol

[@MarcusRutte]

Didn’t work for the other guy. “I want a lawyer.” … “you’re being charged with first degree murder.” … “why” …. “ask your lawyer”

[@KinkKeeNUFC]

100% and never fall for the "only guilty people need a lawyer" crap.

[@sarasweightlossjourney1432]

This case left me more confused than even the start of it 😳

[@MASTERROSHIdb]

Why? Dayne was a psychopath. He charmed everyone to believe he was innocent. Same thing Ted Bundy did when he was committing crime, he acted so innocent and all.

[@MASTERROSHIdb]

Dayonte* and also we live in society that thinks blacks are always just framed and can't actually be criminals.

[@ruins_and_ghosts326]

And who sends their teenage son into a house where there is a masked intruder?! It doesn’t add up.

[@Butterrcuppp]

I thought the same thing. When the son tells his dad the mother is dead, the dad just says call the police. Not “get out of the house NOW” like what???

[@indifferentadvocate1737]

A street stupid lab nerd with no common sense. These people exist. It doesn’t override DNA evidence, cell phone data, etc.

[@Lamedvavnik]

A Korean dad

[@greedyyawgoo5635]

@@Lamedvavnikhe is Japanese.

[@valoliphant1107]

They had enough resources to make it look debatable, he didn’t have enough resources to make it not.

[@idylledoll]

The father seemed to quickly implicate his son which is extremely unusual and to me, the boy did not seem guilty (if you watched enough of these you know most of the time the guilty party seems cold and unaffected while he seemed genuinely panicked and confused). It's common for teenagers to lie about where they are as well especially with hard to please parents. I feel bad for Justin and his reactions were completely genuine to me...it's just the father's behaviour seemed too calm for a man who just lost his wife and then the murder weapon happened to belong to the son, everything was far too convenient and framed around the son.

[@rebeccagable9629]

Exactly.

[@janinemccartha1811]

Hi TC. Mike another good case. Did they ever figure it out for real? Love your channel! Peace, Janine Smiley 😏🙂😀😉😇💯❕❗🎵🎶🎸☕🍩☕🎂🌻🌷🌺🌹💜❣

[@mattg4836]

I used to sleep in my car at college instead of going to class all the time when I was younger so my parents would think I was at school

[@maxwellschneiter]

Still doesn't explain why Moochies DNA was at the scene. They had never met him before, Moochie never admitted to going to the home at any time. He was caught trying to set up an alibi. I think it's just a dysfunctional family with a Dad who is especially cold. It happens.

[@RIPmichael22]

I agree completely

[@lizard8694]

I hope that detective actually considered the career change. I'm no investigator, but I've watched a lot of That Chapter and JCS, and none of those guilty people act as distraught as that kid did. He was acting like Jennifer Pan should have been after killing her parents.

[@kepecos]

Right? What sets a lot of people off no matter how "good" or "bad" they are is being accused of something do ACTUALLY didn't do. I would have reacted very similarly for sure. Imagine being accused of the murder of your family when you're innocent and the cops are sitting on their asses yelling at you instead of going to find the actual killer(s).

[@gmr7494]

This is true. That scream on the phone with the dispatcher was as real as it gets. Those cops are the keystone type

[@hevand_co]

Soo agree with these comment, I seriously didn't believe the son did it, he just didn't come across as a murderer at all

[@roguemystique7]

I felt the same way by hearing the cracks and desperation in his voice. Especially when he said, "my dad?!" When they told him what his dad had been saying. It reminded me of when I was young and my dad would blame me for things I never did. I would sound just like that trying to prove my innocence to my dad who already thought of me as guilty and making excuses/lying. It's exhausting and makes you feel crazy. Similar to how I felt with my ex who was a narcissist and would twist every little thing to fit his narrative and make me the bad guy. Of course there are people who are good at faking it, but in cases like this I personally didn't think he was guilty. I would've been surprised if he really had done it, because my gut and his response was that he didn't. It's scary how many innocent people go to jail though. Especially when police pride gets in the way. When people's egos are so high and they don't want to admit they're wrong. Anyway I've rambled on long enough lol.

[@hevand_co]

@@roguemystique7 Omg-osh Lea I've been there too with the gas lighting & feeling insane, truth always comes out in the end though hun, exhausting is always how I described it

[@wht-rabt-obj]

So, did the detective apologize to the son and look for a new line of work? Also, love the podcast!

[@hollystiener16]

haha. I just made that same comment

[@vialogan]

Hell no!

[@danielwaynekuehne]

@thatchapter can we get an update on that detective?

[@gliderider7077]

@@danielwaynekuehne do your own research, it’s all right there 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@vsr3083]

Why should he?? The detective looked at the evidence he had at the time and came to the best possible conclusion that he could. It's not like he was unjustly pursuing the son due to personal grudge or some other bullshit reason

[@horbie5039]

The only real mistake this poor kid made was talking to the lazy detectives. Never talk to the police

[@evelynvslife]

Idk how I feel about this case. What I do know is that’s it’s sus that after seeing a masked man in his house disabling cameras, (and finding out it wasn’t his son,) the father didn’t call the police. You can’t contact your wife and a stranger is in your house? Police. Immediately. And while the police are on their way, you yourself should be heading home to check on your spouse and house.

[@streetmp]

I don’t think they have the right man at all, this case definitely needs investigated further imo

[@nwicconsultants6640]

evelynvslife: He just couldn't just up and leave his research at University...you underestimate the importance of termite analysis.

[@GlassHalfFullNeverEmpty]

Not just a masked man... a masked scrawny white man.... definitely needs further investigation.

[@EllaNonimato]

He thought was his son

[@louniece1650]

@@nwicconsultants6640 🤭😂

[@lindamontemarano3638]

None of this case makes sense. For example, the father said on the security camera that he saw a "white skinned" man and described him to be his own son, by body type & such. Deonte in looks is polar opposite to Justin. However, it is weird about the DNA found. This case needs to be re-opened and re-evaluated. Truly sad...

[@DanniSoRude]

Both are the same age, I'm wondering if he was at that party but didn't say anything because it made him look worse

[@Linksballs]

​@@DanniSoRudeyeah he seems really concerned with not looking bad or disappointing his parents it's possible that the shame would be too much if he admitted he allowed a threat into their own home, I know the guilt would eat me alive if I had people over then they came back and killed my family... it might be too hard to face his father, especially considering he was so afraid of disappointing him that he straight up lied to police about sleeping in his car bc he felt like a bad son for not being at school/work. I'm not buying that deyonte randomly found their home, it's possible that if he himself wasn't at the party, one of his friends (who later helped him escape) may have scoped out the place and tipped him off

[@DanniSoRude]

@@Linksballs possible, but the father was so sure he saw a white guy, that he threw his own son under the bus ...... I know eye witness testimony is already iffy, but no way in hell could that black kid be mistaken for white! We come in so many shades and some of us can even pass, but not HIM!

[@marquisfelder3170]

im thinking the dad hired deonte and tried to blame the son i have no idea this is weird lol

[@bethetienne5066]

No Dayonte is innocent man! The reason why his dna was possibly in the home is because he probably robbed the home before or maybe at the party who knows, but he definitely didn’t murder her! This case is an example of injustice! Moochie is innocent of murder!

[@GustavoMartinez-kd8mc]

As a former college student it is not weird to sleep in your car especially when you have three classes in a span of 6 hours.

[@RadicalValkyrie]

Ive slept under my desk at college. Many do to avoid going home to only come back again.

[@-Monad-]

Makes sense that he lied to his overachiever Asian dad, probably wouldn't have approved of wasting precious time not studying.

[@FrogsForBreakfast]

Colleges are full of people taking naps in all sorts of places. Back before cell phones with alarms, they'd even put notes on themselves "please wake at 2pm" or whatever. Roll down the windows in the car for a slightly more private nap? You bet.

[@juliestrickland7754]

Yep. Done it myself.

[@avaggdu1]

@@-Monad- If you want to bring racial stereotypes into it, why not say it makes sense because the son was a typical dishonest, lazy, ill-educated American?

[@nancybee250]

No Sane parent would ever send their 20 year old kid to a house with a masked intruder instead of calling the police. The timing of him checking the video feed at that exact time makes me think it was more likely a murder for hire by the dad.

[@indifferentadvocate1737]

And the hired murderer protects the dad at all cost? Every single hitman that gets caught turns on the guy who hires him. Every single one. That theory makes no sense.

[@SoulDelSol]

He didn't check it. It sends you an alert when camera is triggered

[@JohnJacobSchmidtt]

​@@SoulDelSol even with the cancelled subscription? If so that's good to know

[@itsybitsy999]

@@indifferentadvocate1737 If the hitman planted someone else's DNA, then it's a wash for the hitman.

[@kovidarv]

@@indifferentadvocate1737hood politics would say not to snitch so if he went home after snitching he wouldn’t have a place no more

[@heckinborkk]

Usually when I'm feeling depressed I won't watch true crime stuff - but Mike's presentation makes it so I can still take in the story without making myself feel worse

[@bradray4218]

I feel the same

[@simione29]

This is exactly how i feel!

[@cm9231]

Get well soon bro

[@AK-dw8jo]

How old are you?

[@Str8JamNoJelly]

Mike is the man! Great at covering these tragic stories without delivering a depressing narrative. Thats why we love the guy. Thats why we watch him week in and week out!

[@dantauche7917]

I wonder if Justin ever got an apology from those detectives…..or if the detective changed careers……

[@jayneweaver8695]

Did the "detective" change professions? Amazing that it was someone totally different, albeit the son behaved in a very strange way. Your commentary on this one is spectacular.

[@tanjahelenkvitnes6954]

Can't say I would have acted "normal" if I was accused of murder or if I had discovered one..

[@jayneweaver8695]

@@tanjahelenkvitnes6954 most ppl blurt out the truth

[@1upperful]

This is such a revolting case, in the end. I don't understand how the law or any justice system can feel comfortable in condemning people to live in prison without absolute certainty of someone's crime. It just ends up feeling as monstrous as the crime in itself.

[@Kunfucious577]

I must agree with you. The investigators didn’t do a good enough job with making sure that there is no doubt of anyone’s guilt. I feel like there’s way too much emotion and tribalism involved in courtrooms these days.

[@stoiccrane4259]

The fact they found a way to pin it on a black male without any substansive evidence despite the fact the father distinctly said it was a white male speaks volumes.

[@luckkarma19]

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@silentwitness536]

Its supposed to be BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. Having seen this video, I have more reasonable doubt he didnt do it.

[@patjohn775]

We didn’t get to see all the evidence. Prosecutors probably proved from phone he was nearby at the time.. there had to have been more evidence than just dna

[@naomiledger1374]

I'm so glad you still love us at the end of each chapter MIkey, it's so heartwarming 🥰

[@goldkhw]

He's kidding. I'm sure he's kidding. Look for clues.

[@dubzillaaaa]

It seemed plausible at the beginning that a kid who was a drop out and who’s parents were apparently ashamed of that, would lie about being at school when in reality he was just sleeping in his car.

[@joycemarie9702]

Just like Chandler Halderson, Joel Guy, Grant Amato…. They all have so much in common! Justin killed his mother!!! He didn’t know that the Nest subscription lapsed…. He unplugged all the cameras, wearing a mask thinking the cameras were still recording….he used his own knives and tried to cover it up!

[@sarahcox1197]

@@joycemarie9702 I agree, I think the son is guilty.

[@no_peace]

​@@joycemarie9702 it's not hard to buy a new knife

[@Murphyyyyyyyy]

I literally did the same thing during a time of depression. I’d sleep in my car so my family didn’t know.

[@jasonvoorhees5640]

@@joycemarie9702 okay karen

[@connoc5078]

It should have been declared a mistrial because there was literally not sufficient evidence to ever reach the "beyond a reasonable doubt" threshold. Jury members that fail to adhere to that standard and instead just go for "eh, maybe he could have done it" should be fined or punished some other way.

[@a.rae.]

As someone who has been part of a jury. I agree with this

[@BobbiGail]

Agree! BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT... DNA on the knife but nowhere near the bathtub or..? There is doubt here. Its messed up!

[@laurahoward5426]

Punished or fined for DOUBTING??????? Yeah, right

[@GothicUndone]

Something doesn’t sit right with me here… the dad described his son to a T. Asked his son to go to the house, he didn’t go himself, he knew the subscription ended so the footage couldn’t be reviewed. He had huge issues with his son dropping out of college and not having any major goals in his life. When asked who knew where the cameras were, straight away he said “my son” and didn’t offer anyone else. Not his daughter or any of his son’s friends. The dad also had defensive body language during his interview with police. I believe he tried to frame his son for this murd3r - IMO the dad killed his wife, and saw it as a way to get both of them out of his life - 2 birds with 1 stone. IDK how Moochie’s DNA got onto two small items but NOWHERE else in the house or on Mrs Su… but based on what I’ve seen here - I believe he is innocent. It’s a gut feeling. Something feels all wrong here.

[@theresahenderson3534]

Dad is a failure as a husband and father. He didn't call the police he called his son to walk in the house where he saw an unknown man in his house who could have killed his son. Jeez, if I were a cop I would be suspicious of that.

[@valward8195]

I believe the Dad did it. He is a forensic guy. He got the jailed guys DNA somehow, planted it at the scene, killed his wife then put the spotlight on his son knowing the cops would trace the DNA to a local burglar. It's easy enough to do. Maybe read about the burglar in a local paper, followed him, got a coffee cup or something he used then lifted his DNA from it. Just a guess. I'm Irish like Mike.

[@Leonorexplore]

Indeed, the father looks very suspicious to me. He said he saw a young slim white guy (like his son). The convicted is black (not corresponding to the father's description) and his DNA was found on the knives only, not anywhere else in the house. I also think he is innocent even though many questions remain unsolved.

[@franceshaypenny8481]

Dad paid Moochie...

[@joannerutledge6508]

I wrote the same thing lol,about something not sitting right ,the dad said a white ,thin male,even thought it was his son,an just happened to start watching as this thin,white ,masking young man was ripping all the wires from the hidden cameras 📷 😳. This case needs re opening for sure.

[@chrisallison4175]

"Hey, kids ain't gonna teach themselves about termites" - I love this guy.

[@ms.annthropic6341]

It seems like Dayonte really could have been somebody if he’d gone in a different direction with his life. He’s clearly very clever, and had a good heart (to a degree at least) because of the help he gave out to mothers in the community who were down on their luck. I don’t think he committed the murder, tying up someone and then stabbing them to death doesn’t feel like a first-time violent crime. Weird as hell, I hope this case gets re-examined and solved soon. 🤔

[@cathybassett6432]

They consider it solved.

[@jodiforeman3314]

im so sad he obviously was not guilty...not enough evidence either way...i wouldnt have found him guilty without a doubt

[@curleysioux5612]

So three people, who didn't do it but all accused? What is wrong with the world?

[@PriceySweater]

Had a good heart!?

[@kleeblatt9257]

i'm absolutely certain that it was the son. The way he's throwing a tantrum, fake crying and is able to easily talk about his 'beloved' mom killing herself - he's guilty!

[@ar2043]

Very strange indeed. Not sure who did what, but can you imagine from a legal standpoint if those cameras never caught the son and his car driving back home? Those cops would've made the case fit and the son would be in prison for the rest of his life. NEVER speak without a lawyer!!!

[@kingayy9267]

Cops will do anything for an arrest, truth be damned.

[@cherylbaker3319]

Cops can always make the case fit and that is the saddest aspect of a system which often fails justice. If you want to pay for a crime to be done and pay for another to take the fall, you can easily do so, especially when you can frame someone who is also, a black man with precious unrelated convictions. That’s how I feel about the whole situation and I’m a white female who doesn’t live in the US, but I don’t feel the husband needs investigating more so here as I don’t feel he is being let off very easy here, and his word taken as fact without a lawyer needed too. But he doesn’t act most guilty and suspicious from all three of the men in this case. The actions of the other two, the son and the black convicted male too, both act rationally under the circumstances they face. I would act the same under their circumstances. I wouldn’t act like the Father. Ask for a lawyer and speak nothing no matter what. It’s like that is your only way to attempt bettering yourself but goes against all nature, especially under emotional stress and then stress of accusations like these if innocent, it’s impossible to rationally think of ask for a lawyer and stay silent 100%. It may look guilty now because you want to scream out your innocence. It sadly may not even help you too, if you do ask for a lawyer and remain silent. There is so much injustice in the system itself.

[@ezfree.z651]

i wonder if he ever got his apology. ugh and i doubt that cocky detective quit his job for being wrong like he said he would 😂

[@CantTellYou]

I mean that kid was absolutely insufferable 😂 they probably really did want to make it stick to him after that “NO I DIDN’T! NO I DIDN’T! NO I DIDN’T” exchange (not saying he deserves anything by that, just saying that he would’ve annoyed the piss out of me)

[@Squiggly_Spooch]

Did it actually catch the SON driving the car though, could have been a friend? This kid could have already burgled the home before and touched everything. I was born in Broward, do better. I don’t believe this boy in jail is guilty at all 😢

[@sandrab2589]

Can we talk about the "sleeping dog"? So an intruder came in, tried to rob the house, killed the woman, then went around disabling cameras and the dog just slept?

[@mercuryangel5632]

Like it was someone the dog knew? I found that odd too.

[@MarioGoatse]

I used to be a dog trainer and part of our training was to test their reaction towards an intruder. You’d be surprised how many dogs don’t actually try to do anything when there’s an intruder. Some of them get scared and hide. Some of them actually get happy and just want to be pet. Some of them will bark once or twice, and then smell you and start wagging their tail. It’s actually rare that a dog will go full on attack mode and not stop.

[@MicovskiMC]

Sleepy dog

[@indigocrayon520]

@@MarioGoatse ya my one dog would greet the robbers, and once they gave her enough belly rubs she'd go back to napping while I am murdered 😂😭

[@DeadGivaway]

@@MarioGoatse I had 2 german shepherds as family dogs and I never knew they were so rare

[@seandonovan8915]

Not calling the cops right away still makes me skeptical

[@greedyyawgoo5635]

He not only called his son to go to the house, he even blame the son for it...

[@LawdyGawd]

I was so convinced this was a conspiracy between father and son, but the father was trying to throw the son under the bus.

[@nicholasallan9248]

This is what "reasonable doubt" is supposed to cover

[@tpl6963]

most jurors are NPCs

[@SlikkRikk504]

Reasonable doubt isn't an option for young black men. It's guilty until proven innocent.

[@dusktildawn2428]

​@@SlikkRikk504 did you watch the video? The first trial the jurors were gonna give him a lighter sentence just because he was black. (Btw, I think he's innocent)

[@I.B.S]

@@dusktildawn2428 do you live in America?

[@dusktildawn2428]

@@I.B.S yeah

[@Travelling..Bottle..Digger]

"Kids aren't gonna teach themselves about termites", is quite possibly the best sentence I've heard in several days...

[@bradgphoto]

So I wonder if the detective that was questioning the son apologized to him and took on another career like he said he would do if he was wrong.

[@Kisha_can]

I wondered this, too. I highly doubt it, though.

[@torretagestad6181]

He didn't. I listened to the dateline episode about this and the guy is even douchier about it after the fact. He wouldn't apologize and just said he was doing his job.

[@jerryalexander8803]

He probably wasn't wrong..

[@alanmhinds2559]

​@@jerryalexander8803 🤣🤣🤣 right person serving life , good riddance

[@jerryalexander8803]

@@alanmhinds2559 if it is the right person then yea good riddance, but he's the only one out of the 3 suspects that had absolutely no motive, not to mention if it was a robbery nothing was stolen but hey, who knows 🤷🏿‍♂️.. Peace ✌🏿

[@DragonQuicksilver]

I'm originally from Davie and I hadn't heard about this one. Very sad, she seemed like a wonderful lady. (Side note: Not surprised the doctor studied termites. They are a HUGE issue in South Florida. )

[@quickchris10]

Yeah we don't have them on our radar up north. But maybe y'all could import something that eats them. Monkeys? As for as how wonderful was Miss Halliburton; did she really make a living from her art? I never heard of her.

[@pamsam8933]

Can't get past the father sending the son to the house and not calling 911. The father's actions, or lack thereof, are more suspicious than anything else. Makes me think he could be involved in some way. Definitely gives me "reasonable doubt" vibes.🤔

[@nicolenotizieeamici]

This !!!

[@kellybraun7048]

I wondered if this was a cultural reaction at first, like not trusting the police and trusting family, but it’s sketchier the longer I think about it, even with that. My current (probably wrong) theory is the father set up the situation, maybe hired a killer, gave the info about the security and his son’s knives. Burglar was hired and told the house would be empty to make it more believable as a burglary gone wrong-killer handed him a knife and went after the woman as she tried to run (two guys with knives, yeah, I’d run). Killer ties her up, she gets his mask off, he uses it as the excuse to kill her then, burglar guy freaks and runs, dropping the knife. Killer is either someone the burglar knows and is unwilling to turn on (fear or loyalty), or the killer is a complete stranger (explains why he had to get out to contact people to try to find out who the killer was; he either couldn’t find out or he did and was threatened into keeping his mouth shut).

[@scorch4299]

To me it just means he knew it was his son wearing a mask, or very probable.

[@idylledoll]

@@kellybraun7048 It’s possible the father hired that guy whose dna was in the house, was told to use the sons knives and drop the murder weapon in plain site to frame the son, of course he’d describe him as the son if he was trying to set him up, everything was far too convenient.

[@staceydixon7530]

@@kellybraun7048 also didnt he make a point of talking about her family and how well off they were, i dont know if her inheritance would pass to the husband but i wondered about all of that and how it could play a part in someone killing her, maybe her husband and then using the son or the other guy as the scapegoat

[@jordandavies6970]

I always drilled into my kids head when they were growing up. In the event something happens and you are accused of a crime do NOT speak to the police and request an attorney. They know how to push all the buttons to get a young person to confess or incriminate themselves and then you got a mess.

[@charlesreediii5083]

This is a strange case, I believe it definitely needs further investigation.

[@bettamomma148]

I don't usually feel perplexed when watching these cases but I must say I feel confused and very sad like there was an injustice done here. It just doesn't feel right. However when the suspect started looking for an alibi I started coming off the fence.

[@17thknight]

No it doesn't. Mike just did a TERRIBLE job presenting the overwhelming evidence against the killer bc Mike is a random dude on the internet who has no business making these videos

[@JP8YT]

@@17thknight if thats how you feel, why are you watching?

[@bettamomma148]

@@17thknight I like Mike's videos and I have never felt that he was poor at presenting cases. Sorry you feel the way you do.

[@mocsarbalazs]

it may be just me, but i had the feeling something is missing...

[@laurahoward5426]

So many murderers send in a family member to "find" the victim

[@sharongrigg5336]

If I'm watching someone creeping around my house in a mask unplugging my security cameras knowing my wife's in there all alone who would I send straight into this dangerous situation? My kid.. like WTF what was this dad playing at? Your first reaction on seeing this would have been the police especially when your wife wasn't answering her phone.

[@sweetanila26]

I agree and it’s strange the son didn’t think to call the police too. I mean he didn’t know the situation he was going into. What if there was an armed robber in the house?

[@adriennemiranda7956]

Justin probably assumed it was suicide at first because most people's minds don't go straight to murder. Most people aren't capable of killing someone so it's hard to picture someone else doing it as well. My first thought wouldn't be murder if I saw someone dead in their bathtub either.

[@agiraffe3673]

But he was called by his dad to go home because their was an intruder, my first thought would be, that intruder killed her

[@-Monad-]

@@agiraffe3673 His dad clearly didn't communicate the extent of what was going on. Why on earth wouldn't he have called 911 immediately after calling Justin? He sent his unarmed teenage son into a house with a burglar in it? Something about this is fishy and honestly, it isn't Justin.

[@lucyandlily4197]

She was tied up

[@houseofsolomon2440]

@@lucyandlily4197 ☑️

[@seandelap8587]

Honestly I don't think I would ever forgive my own father again if he accused me of doing something like that knowing that I was innocent

[@stancexpunks]

I don’t think he actually accused his son. That’s just something the police will tell you to see your reaction. They’re legally allowed to lie to you like that in the pursuit of truth

[@seandelap8587]

He send his son back into the house though that itself is suspicious enough

[@katsmith-riply9862]

Lol yeah I was thinking about how awkward things must be now

[@Baratheon.]

@@stancexpunks the funniest part about all of this is the son pretends to go to community college and sleeps in the car lol. Wonder what would've happened if he stayed at home that day. 2 cars in the driveway would make most burglars reconsider his assessment of that house and choose another.

[@tylerseabook9423]

@@seandelap8587 he never accused his kid of anything 🤦‍♂️ lmao🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@Primobozo1226]

I might be wrong but the look on his face when they said 1st degree murder spoke volumes. He was either seriously shocked or a much better actor than any Grammy award winners I've ever seen. Meanwhile the son looked and acted extremely guilty. Again, I might be wrong.

[@that.ll_do_pig]

That face when he heard the charge looked _very_ genuine to me.

[@zandrrlife]

He didn't do it. His body language tells all. He was expecting B&E allegations. Weird case.

[@lillymurray8408]

He didn’t do this. He definitely is being honest.

[@THE-id1by]

Grammy's are for music not acting so what are you saying?

[@barackobama9343]

OK, so you are a racist... got it!

[@LWilli65]

I hope to God the detective changed careers and is now employed at McDonald's. This case needs reopened. None of it makes sense and the police department should be ashamed at the crappy detective work.

[@JackBQuick79]

He does work at McDonald's. That's why the shake machine is always out of service. Dude can't do anything right.

[@amusedBYfools]

Honestly, I'd really like to know what that detectives email address is.

[@jennifercarr9111]

​@@amusedBYfoolsI'm sure with a little research, it wouldn't be too hard to find. If he's still a detective.

[@pyxelated2468]

@@JackBQuick79it all makes sense now 😂😂

[@AnyoneCanSee]

It's America, they have the worst justice system on Earth. It's a police state. They lead the world in locking up their citizens. With only 4% of the global population, the US has 22% of all prisoners on Earth. If you go to them to report a crime they just put you in prison. Absolutely avoid going there as it is also far more dangerous than the rest of the West.

[@joearnold6881]

Man, I was a messed up kid in my college age, and I _definitely_ pretended to go to class, or even meant to go to class, only to crash from exhaustion in my car once I got there.

[@BLUEBEATLE001]

Awe man

[@jessn.2665]

I did it all the time in fact. Pre med took it out of me. I even kept a camping mattress in the back of my SUV just to take naps in there during undergrad. Having parents with high expectations as well, if I really didn’t want to go to class, I went to the school anyway. Especially if I had more than one class. I’d skip one or two and go to the other one. I had a music history class that I never actually went to, but I’d be on campus sleeping in my car.

[@rkuhl712]

My gut feeling is that the husband did it and tried to frame the son. I've watched hundreds of hours of police interrogations, and he [the son] seemed genuinely shocked by the detective's allegations, and was likely in shock from the time he found his mother. It is far too much of a coincidence that the husband would have been looking at the security camera at the exact moment this "intruder" was in the house, and described him as a "skinny young white kid". Aside from the fact he was far too eager to throw his own son under the bus, That evidence alone should be enough to exonerate the young man that ended up convicted. Just because their marriage appeared happy, and there was no apparent motive, does not mean that the husband didn't have one. Particularly if [as it seems] the investigators took his story at face value and focused entirely on the son from the beginning, and didn't investigate the husband as thoroughly. I would need to see the full body of evidence to make a better judgement, but based on what was presented in this video, that is my conclusion. The evidence against the suspect did seem somewhat damning, but I don't fully understand what his alleged motive was, and the fact that the husband "saw" a white intruder seems to leave reasonable doubt, IMO.

[@houseofsolomon2440]

I noticed that the knife appeared to be placed very conveniently on the front door welcome mat. Just as if it was 'planted' there. Father possibly connected: and somehow got dionte's dna on it. Somehow...

[@Saracomeslate]

@Hermit Sage 😳

[@BigBear21740]

See my comments above. There's a lot more to this case.

[@fishbowlheretic]

murder the wife to get out of the marriage, and then frame the son to exonerate yourself and get rid of a child who was disappointing you at every turn. he had no love for his family.

[@sirwhodison]

Ima tell u rn...the son isn't being genuine...I'm verrrry good at having an accurate BS meter...and either the son did it or both them did it...the kid literally SCREAMS manipulative bratty sociopath...he changes emotions like they're masks...it's chilling...the fake crying then "WHY WOULD I KILL MY MOMMY...I LOVE MY MOMMY" he purposely uses the term mommy after using mom prior to this because it's a manipulative way of seeming 1.) Innocent and 2.) To evoke a sense of enduring love for his mother....idk how yall cant see this kids a total psycho

[@pjnix5618]

That dad threw the son right under the bus !!! Omg. He hates his son.

[@whydidmyhandlechangefromAlice]

I don’t think I could’ve found any of them guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I thought the son‘s reaction seemed reasonable for someone who had just found their mother dead (also, who wouldn’t lie if your dad calls you when you’re supposed to be studying and instead you’re sleeping).

[@rationallyruby]

Thank you! Me too! I’m not saying the guy didn’t do it but damn there’s just a lot of evidence that doesn’t line up and only one piece of evidence that could have been explained away by a good lawyer. Especially if past cases in the county had just been overturned on bad dna forensics…

[@RosaHernandez-uw2ul]

Agreed. I'm not convinced the two suspects given here are guilty. The whole thing seems sketchy.

[@17thknight]

You couldn't find the guy who has broken into homes numerous times this exact same (literally, the method of entry is what he used every time) who left his DNA on a knife and the intruder's entry point guilty? Wtf is wrong with your critical thinking skills?

[@17thknight]

​​@@rationallyruby the guy has broken into a half dozen homes in the exact same way with the exact same entry method. Mike skipped half the evidence against this monster. Go watch the dateline video, bc this was an abysmal covering of the case.

[@mrksimka1159]

I think one suspect is guilty and his daddy pull connections to make false evidence to convict other guy. Maybe even conspired with him to do it and had to correct his mistakes while himself lying perfectly.

[@kathyollis7037]

I thought the dad's reaction was so quick to name his son, who wld do that & the look on that boys face when they said he was being arrested for murder, literally looked like he had no idea how they come with that so this is a hard one.

[@The_Wild_Healer]

a termite walks into a bar and asks "Is the bar tender here?"

[@Findpepperbridge]

I feel bad for the son. 11 hours of telling you that you killed your mom when you didn’t. I could tell he didn’t cause of how upset he was getting. Didn’t that detective say he’d find a new job if it wasn’t him? Wonder if he did….

[@penelopesharp2432]

OMG This kid needed a lawyer from the minute that interrogation started

[@alrightyru]

It was murder after all.. That just as easily could have been him in prison for life...

[@Catnipfumar]

About the age of 18 you're no longer a child. Find it interesting how some people with something skin tones can be looked upon as a child although you have to age 25 yet others are called an adult when they're only in their teens.

[@dniemi58]

DON’T TALK TO THE COPS WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY!!!

[@tinydream]

Exactly. He could have easily held a knife that was later sold at a pawn shop and purchased by the husband. None of this adds up.

[@anthonydavis7846]

STEP 1

[@AspireGMD]

Thanks for the advice, I'll remember this when I murder someone.

[@joepeanut6827]

Never Trust a COP.

[@gliderider7077]

@@joepeanut6827 don’t call them either….

[@kellergie2602]

My gosh I feel bad for that kid, holy crap. Imagine not only your mother is killed, but YOU find her, and then you get accused and interrogated immediately afterward with even your dad telling police it might have been you. Heartbreaking, traumatizing stuff. That 911 call audio broke my heart, I could imagine myself acting like he did

[@rebeccagable9629]

Agree 100%

[@k.o.h3599]

Imagine getting away with murder after your family pins it all on a random black kid...

[@kellergie2602]

@@k.o.h3599 Did you watch the video? It's proven it could not have been the son. I'm not arguing whether the conviction was right, evidence there seems shoddy to me too, but you can't say "imagine getting away with murder" when he obviously didn't do it. Maybe it was the dad but gtfo of here with that shit, I'm talking about this kid's trauma, nothing else.

[@stephenlowe8158]

​@@k.o.h3599 research the case. The dudes DNA is multiple places. And he had no connection to the family. The right guy is in prison.

[@k.o.h3599]

@@stephenlowe8158 DNA means nothing when evidence can be planted. A low level burglar with no history of violence doesn't just suddenly and randomly do what he's accused of doing.

[@scottsoderman4379]

Despite everything, imagine being not guilty and the cops telling you that you're a POS after allegedly finding your mom dead saying you did it

[@heatheratkinson7956]

I just get the really strong feeling justice hasn't been done here xx

[@KarmicSalt]

me either...he should have gotten the death penalty

[@WhatSoEverThingsAreLovely]

The dad saw a WHITE guy! 5:35

[@micktaylor5205]

Yeah it’s not adding up.

[@heatheratkinson7956]

I can't believe he got convicted. It doesn't make any sense

[@hellaSwankkyToo]

@@heatheratkinson7956 it makes zero sense. but i can def believe he still got convicted. SMH

[@krisdiane]

All I've got to say is, how did the dad/husband get Diante's DNA?

[@MarioGoatse]

He didn’t because that theory is absolutely horse manure. Diante had a long history of breaking into people’s houses and this time something went wrong. Most murderers started their crime spree with lesser crimes.

[@richwilliams1943]

@@MarioGoatse the dad said the burglar was white

[@zacharyberridge7239]

​@@richwilliams1943and the dad also called his son instead of the police after seeing footage of an intruder in his home. So his reasoning is suspect AF.

[@KPbouj]

@@richwilliams1943 maybe he had crappy cameras

[@richwilliams1943]

@@KPbouj sure, maybe. but the dad canceled the service so we will never know. all we know is the dad said the burglar was white and looked exactly like his son. so much that he called his son to ask if it was him. crappy or not we will never know

[@marieburton4714]

Someone commented the father married a much younger woman (co-worker, if I remember well) shortly after his wife's death. Not calling the police but sending your son to the house after having seen the images? Ridiculous, no person in their right mind would do that. I think the father did it and set his son up. Psychopathic traits. Incompetent police research, now an innocent boy is being imprisoned. Heart wrenching to me.

[@michaela9967]

yea, also dna on a knife? I don't know ... sounds staged. Not wearing gloves and dropping a knife infront of a door like some murder cinderella is a bad staging which police loves I guess. Also son screaming I dont know ... screaming often means lying. The intruder was white, then he wasn't. He was wearing a mask and just went to kill? Why bother with cameras ...

[@matthewfoster2684]

Makes sense. I agree

[@harridan.]

me, too

[@NatUTubeful]

Of course he did, what an asshole

[@Fern8]

Wtf this crazy dad remarried so fast?

[@vallorahn]

Its weird that no one, not even Mike noticed one real loophole in the sons story. 1. His dad called the son and told that someone with a mask is in their house. So the son now knows that there is a bad man in their house. 2. The son feared for HIS life and took a knife with him. So the threat inside the house was life-threatening so much so that he needs a dangerous weapon for self defense. 3. The son said he went through house and found the house has been trashed by someone. So someone has definately been there who shouldn't have. 4. After all that the son said on the call to 911 that his mother has committed suicide. -- conclusion- the son was definitely lying and therefore guilty. Why else would you lie about your mothers death.

[@samuelvazquez6762]

Wow never thought of that it’s very true after all that information knowing a bad guy is there or was just there why would you think mom killed herself makes no sense very good observation

[@patrickconrad396]

Dad definitely had something to do with it. No one no matter what would throw their own son under the bus that quickly. I just can't fathom losing your wife and without hesitation telling police it was your son and pointing every possible finger at him without any doubt.

[@lovelyscorp79]

I commented the same plus the husband remarried his assistant quickly after the murder. To which they decided to stay in the same house. Hell no.

[@Royak]

The father didn’t actually try to set him up, it was something they mentioned in the interview to get Justin to talk believing his father thought he had involvement. Father just said he initially thought it was his son playing a prank. Watch a more in-depth documentary on this case.

[@katiix]

He flat out didn't blame his son he just said it looked like his son and he's the only other person that knows where the cameras are. It's odd since the Dad also said he seen a white looking male on camera with a ski mask on. The father randomly decides to look at the cameras while at work then calls his son and even after his son said it wasn't him he sent his son to go look instead of calling police?! Also why would Deonte say on the stand he thinks this is suicide because they mentioned it instead of saying the son did it because that's what they originally thought?! Someone that commits suicide doesn't get found tied up with duck tape or those type of stab wounds. There's lots of unanswered questions. But it's absolutely ridiculous they had a hard time charging Deonte just because he's black. 🤦‍♀️ What is this world coming to in this type of situation?! I understand what's going on in the world but in this type of situation I don't see what's wrong when his DNA was found at the crime scene. The father or son is definitely involved, they both lied about the things and I believe it was premeditated and not a random attack. This was a tough one!

[@katiix]

​@@lovelyscorp79 what?!!! 😲

[@patrickconrad396]

​​@@Royak 13:44 literally says whoever did it knew where the security cameras were and his son was the only one who knew that. said it sounded just like his son and looked just like his son, and Mike clearly says he thought it was his son but couldn't be sure because of the mask. The dude who almost certainly actually did it wasn't even a white guy like the dad tried to say.... Sorry but the dad was throwing his son under the bus for sure

[@BLUEGREEN65]

Very odd that the father called his son and not the police.

[@Konepig]

He recognised it as his own son. So he probably thought it was odd why his son was acting like he hadn't been there.

[@hallaalmond5247]

@@Konepigall the more reason to call the police.

[@willek1335]

We had someone break into our second home the other day. Saw it on webcam, jet we didn't call the police. We had a strong suspicion of who it was, so we decided not to do it. There can be a million different reasons for why they didn't do that.

[@JT-qi1wk]

@@willek1335 who was it

[@willek1335]

@@JT-qi1wk An neighbor who "borrowed" a bottle, probably alcoholic. We asked another neighbor to move the "hidden" backup key. A couple of hours later, we saw on the webcam that he returned. Perhaps he wanted to return the bottle or something, but he couldn't get in. Funny look on his face through the glass as he realised the gig was up. Sad part is that it wasn't the unpopular asocial neighbor, but the good neighbor we trusted. :/ Life sucks some times.

[@BreakfastML]

The fact he called his son and not the police makes me suspect the dad a lot! Also how he almost immediately he told the police it was his own kid; wtf? Also cops need to be better they didn’t even try to investigate; they thought it was Justin and they were going to bully him into confessing; the kid was distraught and stressed especially after hearing his own father was blaming him. I don’t know what happened by I felt so bad for Justin

[@jimrockford2335]

It sounded like he thought it was his son messing around with the cameras, that’s why he rang him

[@mattbuergel8487]

@@jimrockford2335 In a ski mask?

[@jimrockford2335]

@@mattbuergel8487 Apparently yeah

[@violetsplaycenter3610]

Hopefully those cops did consider a career change, like one of them said.

[@Trenchcoat3]

I wouldn’t say they bullied him 😂 Sounded like a standard interrogation to me

[@Crackparty803]

If jurors can't be trusted to be objective, they shouldn't be jurors. That's ridiculous.

[@debi909]

Prayers for the truth :(

[@Shyknit]

The father and son's reactions were really suspect, also the fact that the father thought he saw a white guy and someone so similar to his son is interesting. Neither suspect helped themselves by being so suspicious but I don't think I could convict them on the evidence shown. Also the fact that someone must have written that song in 6 days when he escaped is something 💀

[@juliaconnell]

this just leaves me with serious doubts that the actual killer is in prison.

[@KarmicSalt]

naw....he robbed house and his dna was there...he did it. Saying he is innocent gets him lots of commissary money.

[@IAmContemporary]

@@KarmicSalt How do you know? It seems a bit weird that a non-violent burglar would break in, kill someone in this way and then not even take anything? A burglar usually burgles, I would assume. Edit: never mind, just say your other comment. If you think he’s guilty because of his skin colour, just say so.

[@Li8eralsarescum69]

@@IAmContemporary the statistics are not on your side on this one lmao

[@joebauers3746]

I wonder if BLM and Kamala paid for his hotel room after he escaped from court...???

[@SharonShazzzaaaTaylor]

I agree😉

[@hellyeah_ellajane]

I used to save saying “I hear ya barking, big dog” for my family but now I just say it to whoever.

[@ThatChapter]

Damn straight, don’t keep it to yourself

[@ktcooki276]

same!!!!

[@eunicee999]

Lol 😂😂 I love it when Mike says that… one of my favorite “Mikey-ism”

[@fluffypink6unny]

😂

[@reidellis1988]

Its tops for sure.

[@lisasowers9272]

He begged for a polygraph but cops wouldn’t cause they knew then he’d be innocent and case wouldn’t be closed!

[@raitoiro]

That or because polygraphs are useless and shouldn't be used.

[@Gopniksquat]

Polygraphs are literal garbage and most people know that by now

[@horsetowater]

Mike's wedding: 'Say I do!' Mike: 'I'll give it a goo'

[@allylabar21]

Hahaha 😆 😂 😆

[@lexirae7889]

I can't imagine what that interrogation was like for Jill's son, having found his murdered mother's body & then thinking that not only investigators, but his own father thought he had murdered her. WTF.

[@PabloandHumans]

His father did murder her!!!!!

[@Prosodyy]

@@PabloandHumans nobody said he didn’t, why you mad🤔

[@stephenlowe8158]

​@@PabloandHumans no do a little research and you'll know the right guy is in prison. This is not hard people.

[@PabloandHumans]

@@stephenlowe8158 and you probably love Joe Biden. Creep. The right guy may be in prison, but he didn't do it, just to do it.

[@PabloandHumans]

@@Prosodyy not mad and many people (check out comment under yours) think he had NOTHING to do with it. He sent his son there for a MF reason

[@KHGSMel]

I kinda understand why he thought it might've been a suicide. cutting your wrists while in the bath is a very common way of suicide. of course the water would end up bloody. upon further inspection he realized it couldn't have been and corrected himself. he seemed so distressed throughout it all

[@rebeccagable9629]

Yep.

[@ellier.537]

What about the husband? He said he saw a white guy on the cameras? Did he say anything about the conviction of a guy who didn't meet his description?

[@dennymiser6333]

Every time I see an interrogation video (from the US), I think of the part in “Miranda” where is says “anything you say can and WILL be used against you in a court law”. That’s means talking without an attorney can NEVER help you!

[@TheRealInky]

Yep, whether you're innocent, or guilty, talking to police is a risk you're taking that can easily work against you. If they decide you're their guy, whether you did it or not, then even seemingly benign statements you've made can be warped against you in court. I think the only way I'd personally be willing to cooperate in a police investigation is in a case where my own child is missing or hurt. Even then it's a risk. There's a great, old video on KZbin, of a criminal defense lawyer lecturing law students about why you should never talk to the police. Look it up: "lawyer explains why you should never talk to the police". In the video, even a cop speaks and agrees with the lawyer.

[@roooooin]

As I heard someone say the other day: “you can’t talk your way out of problems but you can damn sure talk yourself into problems.”

[@jackiegillies4165]

Always get an attorney, you get the single thought police, who don't investigate, cause they think they know.

[@hopejoons]

definitely. i know some detectives think that wanting an attorney means you're guilty, and even though the timing of when you ask for one definitely can be suspicious, asking for an attorney is actually very smart since people tend to incriminate themselves regardless of if they're actually guilty lol

[@reidellis1988]

​@@roooooin Facts.

[@maryboudreau3470]

I am torn the son sounded so innocent or is an awesome actor and then the guy going to prison i sense he is innocent so maybe it was totally someone else. Maybe the dad hired a hit hitman and watched it live on house camera. I don't know so confused. Thanks Mike love you shows and I love you

[@Astrocam88]

That's what I was thinking. Neither option (the son or Dante) really make sense. I mean Dante's DNA was found on the knife but I just don't get why he would randomly up and murder someone, and his shocked reaction when he was being charged seemed legit. I'm confused on this one too.

[@idylledoll]

I totally agree. I believe the son because his reactions seemed completely genuine and suddenly his father was so quick to implicate him. It seemed he hired someone to use the son's knife and then throw him under the bus after.

[@bambamberg]

i feel very conflicted about this case, i don’t think there was enough evidence to convict deonte (motive and method wise) i could see the father hiring a murder (his lack of urgency regarding a masked man in the house) but the son’s actions seemed extremely suspicious as well (did his dad tell him that him mom was home alone with said masked man?)

[@johnross5729]

did you miss the part where denontes fingerprints/dna was found on the knife?

[@katied6701]

​@@johnross5729okay and? he wasn't on the camera, had no violent history etc.

[@12floz67]

He did it. DNA, fingerprints and trying to get a bogus alibi says it all.

[@JohanLiebert1]

@@12floz67 who's the one saying he tried to get a alibi? it's probably a jailhouse snitch looking to get a reduction in their jail time and they could easily be lying

[@aland5935]

Even if he were innocent trying to get an alibi can be understood if he was alone somewhere at the time. A scared kid would think an alibi could save him. Sounds like the DNA could have easily been mixed up.

[@V13-u1c]

Mike you're still the best!!!! Always cracking me up in the middle of horrific crimes. Such a loveable guy you are!