The Obsessed Ex Boyfriend Who Set a Disturbing TRAP

[@ThatChapter]

👀 I’ll be talking more about this soon, but maybe episode 2 of the That Chapter Podcast will be out on Friday anchor.fm/thatchapter

[@joannakneafsey1964]

Exciting 😊x

[@titansarepeople1797]

Word

[@joegentry3726]

Outstanding

[@laratheplanespotter]

Ooh. I’ll have to give that a goo. Not necessarily a podcast gal but I’ll be sure to check it out

[@PashaSlavaUkraine]

Thanks my bro, have a good day.

[@barackobama9343]

When somebody prays in the interrigation room, you KNOW their ass is going to prison!

[@tashiamaybe4982]

“In jail while awaiting trial he also somehow turned into an old woman.” This is why I love this channel. So funny!

[@commonsense571]

😂😂😂

[@AubreysPlaza]

That actually wasn't a great joke.

[@cayleemc]

no but fr.. why does he look like that now😅

[@cayleemc]

im suprised his defense wasnt "yes but im NOT kevin! im his grand mother!"

[@_HelpMeRhonda]

@@cayleemc 😂 😂 😂

[@sergiovalenti7255]

His attorney shedding tears at the end?! Give me a break.

[@ranman7688]

A little bit of hybristophilia going on there.

[@maureenmckillop3622]

She should serve time for her actions. We should get to know the person she got to know. A f*cking murderous liar??? Shame on her for ottering those words.

[@tonydao4227]

she's shedding tears cause she ain't getting paid💰

[@karenamyx2205]

@@maureenmckillop3622 Serve time for feeling emotions and saying words? That's literally insane. Dont get me wrong, I think the lawyer was gross and unprofessional. But we don't jail people because we don't like what they say or feel. Seek help.

[@desiree7429]

@@maureenmckillop3622 she was literally manipulated by him are you blind

[@ezekielosterkorn3075]

The fact that he manipulated that lawyer to the point she was in tears tells me everything I need to know...

[@ezekielosterkorn3075]

I've been around people who play victim card they are really good at manipulating people its almost like hypnosis playing on their emotional output. To get what they want. The guy is guilty as they come.

[@ZombieSazza]

Makes me real glad to be an autist with limited emotional understanding, I understand some emotions and do feel, but the rest? I dunno, they’re outside my very small box of emotional capability, and it genuinely makes me very grateful when I see displays like this where it’s obvious that the emotional manipulator has once again, emotionally manipulated someone else.

[@karenamyx2205]

Was the lawyer a personal friend or something? I refuse to believe that shriveled raisin got this pretty young lawyer to fall for him.

[@blazefairchild465]

She needs some time off. This is highly irregular & unprofessional. I am sure there were complaints laid against her.

[@BustaBunny3045]

Ah k so you know nothing then

[@elizabethgreer27]

His lawyer crying after he was sentenced was literally disgusting and flat out weird. And her saying “we wish you could have gotten to know the real Kevin that we know” is just as disgusting, insulting, disrespectful and disturbing.

[@tasscat]

That was just bizarre, lawyers are supposed to remain emotionally distanced, he was just a controlling abuser, so we did get to know him.

[@ranman7688]

Or she has a thing for guys who commit crimes.

[@perpetualbystander4516]

She didn't act in a very professional manner, but perhaps she was mostly crying because she lost the case and not so much because she felt sorry for him.

[@ranman7688]

@@perpetualbystander4516 I doubt it. I detected a true emotional connection. That's not professional at all.

[@DropDyne]

Right! Da fuk she crying for?

[@albatraoz7045]

Just wanted to say that long before I was diagnosed with end stage cancer, I watched your videos. Now I'm sick in bed all the time and I still look forward to them. Thank you for making such great vids. I can even play your theme on my little piano app! Thanks for letting us give it a gooo!

[@hannagibson9970]

sending you tons of love ❤💙🖤💚🤍💙🧡💜🤎💓

[@bullbikkov7239]

Repent dear lady,ask Jesus Christ to save you before you leave this world

[@laureenjewett3828]

Get well soon

[@Pinkclouds512]

@@bullbikkov7239 gross.

[@Pinkclouds512]

I’m sorry you’re going through this. This community supports you! What piano app do you use?

[@nicknothing]

I went to school with Scott. He was real close with a lot of friends of mine. Its really weird to watch this one 😞 Scott was a very sweet and nice person. His death really hurt a lot of people 😞 Peace to everyone 💙

[@lizperrella666]

I'm sorry for the loss of your friend. I bet he was a terrific guy.

[@sarahelizabeth7705]

I'm so sorry to hear that. I honestly can't imagine how the victims' families feel 😔

[@jonathancurran6851]

Sorry for your loss dude.

[@nollandv0id0]

​@Tara Mcgavan read the room

[@jhasty94]

@Tara Mcgavan scott was the victim babe

[@ThereForWar]

Wow what faith can anyone have in the police if they’re literally watching a suspected murderer take another victim to a secluded spot where he murdered her! Bravo top notch police work!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@daveallen63]

In their defense it did look like she was involved at the time, they had no way of knowing she was at risk.

[@mrFiiSKiiS]

​@@daveallen63In their persecution, they had no reason to let them go and should have arrested them before they hit the town limits.

[@theresarossi6306]

Why abusive and controlling people can't understand why the person being abused doesn't want to be with you anymore is just beyond me.

[@crazytrain7114]

The thing about that is they get off on that. They will ceaselessly change tactics to keep you around,how many times have we all heard " well, she just gets really mad, but she's ok. She just yells alot" or " yeah he hits me, but not hard, I made him mad" they smooth it over and the cycle repeats. Just a game for the fucks.

[@sarina1234ful]

Sadly because sometimes the victim takes them back.

[@nobody8328]

They understand. They just don't care.

[@LostStarzOfTheSky]

They genuinely dont think they are doing anything wrong

[@pjnix5618]

Is he praying on his knees ? Lol at 18.00

[@doctorshell7118]

The murderer praying in the interrogation room is the most That Chapter thing ever.

[@sweetcaroline2060]

Yeah. What a holy unholy thing to do. But I guess his prayers were answered.

[@orosedobheathaabhaile]

Listening to it closely, It sounded, to me, like he whispered 'Scott, please keep Heather safe'.

[@mischr13]

out loud too, so everyone knows what a great guy he is

[@emmagatewood3898]

"God, please keep Heather safe. Love, The guy who used to beat her & ended up murdering her."

[@nhmooytis7058]

These 🤡🤡🤡 always overact or underreact!

[@elizabethpeck9042]

Extra special congrats to you and your new bride! Thank you for sharing the beautiful picture of your special day Mike!💜💜

[@ThatChapter]

Thank you so much Elizabeth!

[@rocketta.chique5761]

TBH I got out of an abusive relationship in part by watching channels like this. It's better to learn from others' mistakes, especially when they end so tragically :(

[@IronForgedUnderPressure]

Yeah. You don’t want to go to jail for murder. Glad you moved on.

[@JohnRiversOfficial]

wow rockettachique i cant imagine why.

[@Reth_Hard]

Come on! Why don't you give him a second chance? He's probably very sorry... I'm sure he changed and he's not going to do disrespect you once again. Right?

[@laurafrye3676]

Good point sista

[@kathduncan9618]

Good for you! Well done.

[@brianwhalen6257]

The lawyer crying at the end was ridiculous

[@sanityd1]

prob cared about the loss on her record

[@76cruiser30]

@@sanityd1 exactly what i was thinking.

[@gemmarance9728]

So unprofessional 🙈

[@VomitPinata]

So disrespectful to the victims and their families!

[@shawndayvis6169]

This lawyer is disgusting and hopefully the victims can sue her in civil court

[@ROT4RYfc3s]

I shouldn't be excited bc they're always terrible/tragic stories, but.. I love Mike giving it a goo!

[@rodgerrodger1839]

I'm very happy you said what I'm thinking.

[@jenniferphillips4765]

He'll ya! That's so true! Lets give it a goo!😲😳

[@wadeh1325]

I just want an Idaho murder case update man

[@ROT4RYfc3s]

I started giving it a goo the second I got the notification

[@johno30197]

Giggity!

[@botanicalbabies]

Scott was a family friend, this is wild to see a story hit close to home. Thank you Mike for doing a great job showcasing Scott and his passion for music and life ❤️ he’s continued to make a such huge impact here.

[@AJM522]

Thank you for shedding light on Scott's case. He was a beloved member of the music community here, and he is truly missed.

[@cerriwyn169]

It was disturbing that the Lawyer was crying when he got sentenced also stating she wished everyone had got to know him as they had done! Thank you Mike as always, for all your hard work researching this case.

[@GT-ey2zt]

Ikr 😳😳😳😨

[@jennifermaddy2442]

She got sucked right in

[@oldmanvinny]

Scott was an exceptional human being. He added so much love and light to this world. Back in the day, we would listen to some great jazz trumpet players and then play the solos ourselves to improve our own skills and chops. His passion for music was unmatched. I miss you my friend. I hope you’re playing some good tunes in the other side world. RIJ (Rest in Jazz) Scott & Heather

[@1_Fish.2_Fish.Red_Fish.]

Initially thought jizz, glad you cleared that up.

[@PiXie232]

He really did seem like an amazing person. I’m so sorry for your loss.♥️

[@TrapDaddyJose]

I like turtles❤🐢

[@johnmcmanus2447]

If the lawyer had "gotten to know the kevin that we do", she'd probably be in a body bag instead of singing his praises

[@Craft_and_Crime]

fantastic comment! 💚

[@giftedfox4748]

I think it was more of a "You are paying me a good bit of money so I will set you up with the best case I can." But in reality it was a chess move that she played. Because it creates doubt in the jury and if there is a retrial then it might hold some weight. Not saying it will do any of those but it is a logical tactic to use emotion against the jury to swing them to their side, even after the verdict. Pretty disgraceful and gross how lawyers will gaslight and control the jury in this matter.

[@Cody-Coyote]

This is so sad. The fact that the police were watching them when she was killed is just egregious. They would've easily found the blood with a search warrant. Just depressing.

[@TheDreamingMyriad]

I gotta agree. Why on earth did they wait so long to execute a search warrant or question them, knowing that there had been domestic violence before? It seems insane to just watch and wait when it's pretty clear there's a possibility that Heather was in a bad position with a known violent man!

[@nadagabri5783]

@@TheDreamingMyriad but she was able to leave the house multiple times, work, nails, dinner. Why didn’t she go to LE? Wierd

[@ayameisastar]

I think because from their point of view she looked like she had conspired with the ex bf to kill the current bf. They had no reason to think she was in danger and every reason to think she was a co-conspirator. Everything always looks really obvious after the facts are revealed but in the moment they usually aren’t. Im just sorry she didn’t think she could ask her nail tech to call the police and get her sons to safety. She must have known he was gonna kill her

[@wesley939]

True.

[@janewright315]

@nada Gabri He was wanted for abuse, had a warrant, and had previously been reported by her for abuse. She would believe they would do anything why exactly? This is amazingly ignorant.

[@felineexceptional]

Just wanted to take a second to Congratulate you and Mrs Mike on getting hitched... Watch out for the life insurance dance!!! Seriously.. Congratulations to you both. Wishing you a long, happy life together. ♥️♥️♥️

[@BreakFixRepeat]

"He somehow turned into an old woman" got me. Seeing him in the next scene sent me over the edge.

[@amusedBYfools]

LMAO it's the way he tells stories always makes me giggle. 🎉

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

I love how his attorney says she wishes everyone had gotten to know "the Kevin Eastman" that they knew. There's only one of him, guys! And you knew he beat her viciously for years before this!

[@TrapDaddyJose]

I like turtles❤🐢

[@helgabluestone2407]

Almost 2 million subscribers. Amazing. Well done, Mike. Been with you since the early days.

[@differenttakethanmost]

Me too- since The cringe-y Captain days 👨🏼‍✈️lol

[@Wildcat221]

Same. Mike has found success where it is not easily found. Well done sir!😊

[@bobby9192]

1.8 hardly 2

[@marcirathbone8998]

Same here

[@marcirathbone8998]

@@bobby9192 I mean she did say almost 2 sooo 🤔🤫

[@bnatoak4525]

The lawyer crying when he got sentenced was sickening!!!

[@allanrickard2117]

Kevin is now married to 10 Mexicans in jail and enjoys doing housework.. his new name is LA BITCH

[@BariumCobaltNitrog3n]

She was crying because she lost the case. She wasn't going to get a bonus, she was going to get a lecture. That's. Why she was crying. She didn't care about what happened to that fat f**k, she cared about her reputation and her paycheck.

[@TheSadistNat1on]

Such a nut job

[@happiedaze]

I thought the same exact thing

[@katymcginn4644]

@@happiedaze RIGHT! WHAT'S WRONG WITH HER? HAVING SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL? DID SHE ALREADY FORGET HOW THIS MONSTER BRUTALLY MURDERED TWO INNOCENT PEOPLE? WTH!

[@sandibaker5298]

Just the thought of him getting on his knees and praying, asking for her to be safe, after he killed them both. Sick f$$k! Love you, Mike!

[@EllipsesMusicc]

One of my best friends played bass in their band "the movers and shakers". Really hit him hard Scott seemed to be loved by a lot of people and seemed super genuine and happy with life. Sad story man ..

[@DiamondGirl333]

I can not believe they didn't arrest him after they had the warrant! What in the actual F? They have culpability in the woman's murder!

[@mpdaugherty8549]

I hope her family sues the police department for her children's sake! She could be alive ! Disgusting!

[@CollectSolution]

This is America 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Finduski]

Yea like they knew he gonna kill her, do you really think that police can see in the future? Ofc they gonna try get more hard evidence before arresting.. Ridiculous to say police had culpability in the murder... But hey, you american, yall have smaller brain so i let that slide for now

[@p2kCrime]

No offence but how were they supposed to know that Hester wasn't involved in the murder? As the lawyer said, Hester used to roam freely for the entire week after the murder, and even got her nails done. This simply means that she deliberately didn't complain about Kevin, even when he had no hostages. She got what was coming to her unfortunately.

[@shainamichalski]

@@p2kCrime They had arrests warrants for both of them. While detained, Heather very well have told them what happened, knowing Kevin was also detained. She might have gotten some time, but at least she would have been alive. (Only saying she might have gotten some time because she didn’t come forward earlier. Since she was a victim she may not have.)

[@randompetsandnuns]

Two things that others have mentioned, that are sickening: 1: They actually let him drive away with Heather, to KILL her. 😠 2: The attorney crying at the verdict. 🙄

[@orpheus0108]

💯👏🛐

[@MarioGoatse]

One more thing that’s sickening! Eating toenails!

[@Karenanne247]

Heather could have left work & gone to the Police??

[@ddl4374]

YESSS! I CAN FEEL HER DREAD AND FEAR RIGHT THROUGH THE SCREEN ! SHE WAS IN DIRE EXTREME DEADLY JEIPARDY and had a chance of RESCUE. BUT THEY JUST SAT THERE! W!! T!!! F!!!!!!🥵😡🤬💀☠️😭😭😭😭😱😨🥶😤😭

[@davewilson9738]

Watching him pray for the people he had killed to be found alive was just...sick.

[@zahidkhan5733]

why aren't trannies claiming this one?

[@carlia5615]

Special place in prison for those peeps

[@marylougeorge9890]

What a Nut!!! Just a con job trying to get sympathy. Bet he ended learning God is for real and didn’t approve of that act.

[@keeshakhan7136]

Or lunacy.

[@roguereviews8141]

No different to anyone else praying, all prayers fall on non existent ears, and all are for selfish purposes.

[@emilygavaldon9265]

Scott was a family friend (my dad is the saxophone player behind him) and seeing someone with your platform cover his story means so much! Scott was so kindhearted and never failed to make a gig until that next day 💔 Also, Scott’s father not only lost his son but his wife shortly after, an overall tragic story😞 Thank you for covering this🤍

[@udowannun7780]

The guy’s interrogation is hilarious. He talks to the wall, to the table, even to his lap, but never directly to the officers.

[@kimmoran4437]

And puts his fingers in his ears like a big baby! 😀

[@udowannun7780]

@@kimmoran4437 I KNOW, right? Good lord. 😆

[@kimmoran4437]

@@udowannun7780 What did poor Heather ever see in him?! 🤢

[@udowannun7780]

@@kimmoran4437 For real. Maybe he had $$. I’m not talking about looks, either - just his demeanor and his voice are deterrent enough.

[@kimmoran4437]

@@udowannun7780 You’re so right! They were both alcoholics so maybe that had something to do with it…

[@sheri3108]

I grew up in Greeley, went to school with Scott. So when you said his name my heart just sank.

[@DresdenShuffle]

Sorry for your loss

[@DD-mp9ok]

Well, at least you had the chance to know him. Seems like the kind of guy that sowed many smiles in the world... show one off for him.

[@anjachan]

😔

[@widow237]

Such a senseless loss.

[@alwaysdead89]

I'm so sorry. What an awful story. Looking at how he was killed, ambushed from behind it seems, absolutely made me feel sick - what a cowardly thing for that weird looking prick to do. Absolutely not fair.

[@ramblinmama]

Surprising to see his lawyer wiping away tears during sentencing (around 30:13 ). I don't think I've ever seen that before.

[@sheri3108]

Its because she lost. No one believed the crap she was putting out there

[@jessepitt]

Especially over a jerk like him.

[@TheCarelessAquarius]

Lawyers can’t cry, due to them being extremely cold and dead inside. Something is fishy.

[@thejudgmentalcat]

She was rocking the silver hair

[@kenfryer2090]

I thought that was very weird . Also her statement at the end was weird. He was obviously guilty.

[@robland6804]

24:58 "In jail while awaiting trial he somehow turned into an old woman" LOLLL

[@Sunniebby3]

Dude showed up to trial as Rosie O’Donnell

[@TheRealEMURSE]

'It's Pat!'

[@melissamoonchild9216]

​@@TheRealEMURSElol thats a deep cut

[@TheThreatenedSwan]

Did he pull out his rotting tooth at trial?

[@TheThreatenedSwan]

Showing up to court, nipples protruding, very very disrespectful

[@TrapDaddyJose]

I like turtles❤🐢

[@johno30197]

Alway's interesting when Mike pop's up we know we're in for a intriguing story.

[@ThatChapter]

This is a wild one

[@mark7831]

@@ThatChapter it sure was wild with a funny ending 🤣 miss Eastman

[@jasoncoward-aintscared]

His lawyer said, "I wish you could get to know Kevin." I feel like if she had gotten to know him up close and personal years ago, she would be the reason Kevin is sentenced to natural life.

[@dantesinferno1258]

Did you note her wiping her tears away at the end? 🙄

[@haret0n]

i don't know what the professional standards for lawyers are in the states but there is no way a lawyer here in new zealand would make a comment like that, weep and stroke her client during sentencing.

[@jasoncoward-aintscared]

@haret0n you don't know the half of it. Our entire legal system is a joke. And not a funny one we can all enjoy.

[@ilonawishart9887]

@@haret0n ob. ZC

[@FallenAngel9979]

Good lord. No U.K. lawyer would behave that way.

[@lovingmayberry307]

"Whilst in jail, Eastman became an old woman." Best line ever, Mike!!! 🤣

[@lisawilson105]

Hand in hand with finding god. Or, perhaps they gotta pick one or the other. Haha

[@Stolaz83]

Prison food does not do a body good

[@statusdisarray9598]

It’s true!

[@Scoutmhen]

Lol. 😂

[@stepherpeppers4078]

I wasn't sure if I was hearing things but nope that's what I heard! Lol

[@Mick_Chicken]

When I saw him praying I audibly said "Oh Please". What a piece of work!

[@lucamaran3923]

When you rock up 30 seconds after the video goes up that "hey you" really hits different.

[@ThatChapter]

Glad to see you so early!

[@greengoblin876]

@@ThatChapter well done on the quick action Mike . comment deleted

[@Ladybugqueen97]

I know. I happened to see it at 1 minute! Was great!!

[@Julia-uh4li]

@@ThatChapter Congratulations on your marriage, Mike. Give us some details mate!!

[@colinklang]

The fact he was last traced to her apartment should have been enough for a search warrant. The police literally have video of Heather marching to her death. So incredibly infuriating!

[@toddtourville984]

He sure pulled the wool over his attorney's eyes. It just shows that he is a very manipulative person.

[@rudra62]

Some criminals, especially the sociopaths, are very very charming. I would think most attorneys would be wise to that, on the lookout for it, and careful to check their emotions toward any client, but perhaps this one got through those with this attorney.

[@Scratchingforcash]

I’ve actually heard a lot of good things about Scott. What a horrible way to die. He was a good man and amazing musician.

[@Ford17x]

No such thing as a good human being..

[@elijahfoster2]

@@Ford17x "A thief believes everyone steals." - E. W. Howe

[@profd65]

@@Ford17x Sicko.

[@MandiMomOf9Channel]

Mike is a top notch storyteller 💯

[@kelcritcarroll]

The cops all excited telling the crazy guy some crazy story is freaking weird

[@isabellind1292]

I'm not liking it so much anymore. It's always about the brutal murder of women.

[@darcfaze6482]

I find it interesting that he asked her to marry him... knowing that in most states, a spouse can't be forced to testify against you. She said no. That made her a danger.

[@schrisdellopoulos9244]

No, I'm afraid that is no longer accurate. You never watched The Sopranos?

[@sweeneytodd011]

It's not a thing anymore, spouses most definitely can be made to testify against each other when necessary but no doubt when she said no to the marriage he would have realised he then had to kill her because she was a witness and was surely going to tell the police when she got the chance. He must have thought he could win her round by........ Murdering her new boyfriend in cold blood and forcing her to spend the following week with him, so romantic...... For a maniac!

[@MDCxThePG]

It wouldn't have mattered either way. It would only protect during the time you're married. You don't have that privilege to not testify against them about something that happens pre-dating the marriage, which the murder would have. It also only covers what is said between the two. It would not work for actions. If he told her that he killed Scott, that would be protected and she wouldn't have to testify. If she witnessed him doing so, she would have to testify about it no matter what.

[@Flotter-Flo]

She had a pretty strong case of getting the marriage annulled, what with being held at gun point before, during and after the proposal, so not the greatest plan, lol. Also, I think the spouse has a right not to testify, but they still can, so that doesn't silence her at all.

[@quickchris10]

This cretin I would like a psychological expose of. What kind of throwback rock did he grow up under? Why are there still men that think they can control a woman?

[@Samantha-qj9wq]

My favorite part of the judge reading his sentencing is that he said "life in prison, but we're going to award you 883 days towards that sentence." Jeez, that was funnier than it should've been.

[@roxannemoser]

They do that, and I don't understand why.

[@thabsilechamane3774]

What does that mean?

[@amityislandchum]

@@thabsilechamane3774 It's referring to "time served," which is when the time you've spent in jail during the legal process counts towards your prison sentence. So if someone commits a crime and gets sentenced to 5 years, but they spent a year and a half in jail for the whole trial, they only have 3.5 years to serve in prison.

[@Julia-uh4li]

@@thabsilechamane3774 it goes towards "time already served" while awaiting trial. If he'd gotten a 30 year sentence, it would have been 30 minus 2 plus years while he was held in jail awaited trial.

[@paulwright6015]

@@roxannemoser its stupid but the judge gave him his time in the county jail awaiting trial towards his sentence. In larger counties usually jail time is not day for day. One day in jail may account for 2 days or 3 for 1.

[@CellDBS]

I'm not sure what's more disgusting, the murders or his lawyer crying when he was sentenced.

[@CeruleanTalon]

Was his lawyer "invested" in him? Odd way she looked at him and the way she spoke of wishing they "knew" him the ways she/they did was not normal. She looked pained at the verdict, more than just an "Oh, poop, I lost" kind of look.

[@Fluffy-Fluffy]

She wiped tears away.... For sure looked pretty unprofessional.

[@schrisdellopoulos9244]

You are observant. X

[@andrewratcliffe6425]

Why is everyone afraid to say what's blatantly clear... They were fucking,,,!

[@theunmitigateddisaster676]

He probably used the fame manipulation tactics as he did with Heather. He even tried to draw some pity from the detective interviewing him with the whole rejected proposal b.s.

[@laurfincher8137]

could be a relative.. small place.

[@GorillaCookies]

Pretty disturbing that investigators had warrants for the arrests of Kevin and Heather but let her ride away with Kevin who would later kill her

[@kristinebailey6554]

This state has been going to Hell ever since they legalized pot 10 years ago, at least that's what the locals tell us. We moved here 2 years ago and can't wait to retire and get out.

[@cadence6814]

@@kristinebailey6554 legalizing weed has proven time and time again to be a good thing. weed calms the brain and body which actually has been proven to reduce violence. so i can assure you weed is not the issue.

[@secretunknown253]

@@kristinebailey6554 that’s the stupidest thing I heard lol. Alcohol makes people more destructive and mean. Weed doesn’t do that.

[@edinsoncavanirespector]

@@cadence6814 Weed makes you more lazy + passive reduces your productivity. Give your head a shake buddy .

[@cadence6814]

@@edinsoncavanirespector if you actually did your research on it, you’d know that weed affects everyone differently. not only that but those symptoms are caused by weed dependency. i could say right now that alcohol makes people violent and mean but it’s not fully true is it? right! and that’s because alcohol affects everyone differently and usually the people who act violently are alcohol addicts. same shit except id rather be lazy than violent.

[@ChristopherSmith-ku4wq]

The man, the myth, the Mike. Let's give it a geww.

[@TheRapidDescent]

I'm having trouble understanding why the cops had warrants for them, but decided to tail them instead of arresting him. They didn't even tail them and now this woman is dead. The police have some complicity in her death.

[@daveallen63]

Because at the time it looked like she was involved, they didn't know she was at risk.

[@Floridaman1780_]

This is ridiculous. Those cops got her killed. How do you not just knock on the door and ask both of them to come answer questions. You dont think she wouldve rolled on him right there? Plus they had warrants already. Terrible.

[@bettywith2girls]

Yeah, but I think, just in case Heather, who was going about her regular business as usual after Scott's murder, wasn't in on the murder too (and wouldn't roll on the murderer)...and I think they were being followed to see where they hid the murder weapon and/or who they interacted with just after the murder of Scott...who else could have been involved. As Mike said, they barely had enough circumstantial evidence on him at the time, and wanted to get more...but you're right...would have been better if LE went in earlier. I don't know how they would have known Heather was in danger bc she acted normally and did her normal stuff, without alert the police...which she could have done indirectly. Like her co-workers said, she acted alittle nervous but not very, apparently. I was pretty impressed LE found the murderer and Heather in the 1st place, to be honest. Yeah, it's too bad LE didn't go in earlier, but I think they were getting more evidence and didn't know Heather was in danger at the time.

[@LifesPeachy321]

People put way too much faith in the police. They aren't paid enough to care...and it shows! And IMO they *don't care!*

[@honestyisadyingvirtue]

And had they done that and not found anything? This would've just happened later. You expect cops to be predictors of crime, yet the own victim didn't even try to save herself when she had plenty of time too. Can't blame them for not knowing what even the person in the relationship refused to acknowledge. That's what's ridiculous.

[@victoriajohnson4420]

Battered women typically don't talk to the police, or leave the abusive situation. Even when they do call the police, they often refuse to press charges or testify. Don't blame the cops.

[@amityislandchum]

Holy shit, 3 bootlickers in a row replied to your comment. Bootlickers: you are WRONG. The police had PROOF that Scott's death had occurred in Heather's house, and did not bring her in for questioning or get a search warrant for her house. They had PROOF that Kevin was involved, and did not arrest him or even bring him in for questioning. They had FUCKING ARREST WARRANTS IN HAND as they watched Kevin and Heather drive away. The police refused to do their jobs at EVERY step, because they wanted to live out their high-school-failure dreams of being spies. They are 100% responsible for Heather's death, period. Let's hope none of you bootlickers ever lose a loved one because of police negligence like this. Will you still be defending the cops and blaming the victims in that case? Pathetic.

[@13ritneyanne]

This is the same judge that sentenced Chris Watts! He's awesome

[@ChaCha.44]

I recognized him too. I was kinda looking for this comment 😊

[@13ritneyanne]

@@ChaCha.44 I recognized his voice because I watched Chris Watts sentencing like 5 times over and then I remembered that this was Colorado so then I knew for sure!

[@El_Ophelia]

Good call re: Chris Watts' Judge. I still think Nicole was in on the whole thing and it pisses me off they never went after her.

[@redstateforever]

Looks like the same courtroom, too.

[@ChaCha.44]

@@13ritneyanne you're good! Right away I didn't know exactly where I knew him from, just that I'd seen him before somewhere lol

[@CMinorOp67]

25:00; “…he also somehow turned into an old woman.” OMG…I was NOT expecting to see SNL’s Pat walk through the door.

[@jaimieraee]

My thoughts exactly 😂😂😂😂

[@emmagatewood3898]

Pat was non binary before that was a thing. They were a trailblazer!😂

[@pnichols6821]

That was too funny!

[@sparkytuttle2966]

I hate myself for first being shocked and then laughing. I do suspect that his butch old lady look will attract some new friends when he hits prison. His life should be tons of fun from here on out. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.

[@LinaRegina]

I was thinking the same ... like wtf is this transformation in this short amount of time😳😳he was kinda slim and fit, and then jabba...... what happened really😳

[@DizzKola3]

I watched Kevin’s entire interrogation, and it is bonkers! At first, you feel sorry for him until you realize that he did it!

[@ruthie8785]

I started working at a DV shelter and the more I learn at my job the less surprising these stories become. Just makes me sad and numb.

[@rocousilly676]

If she was getting her hair done,and seeing her son alone,she could have went to the police, and saved her own life, sad just sad all the way.

[@kathleenchaffin2591]

Her own, probably, but she had 3 boys at home

[@kimmoran4437]

@@kathleenchaffin2591 They were adults, as far as I know.

[@KarmicSalt]

not if you're that scared. The fact that they were watching him and he killed Heather proved that if she had went for help, she would have died anyway. Look at how he manipulated his own lawyer and had her crying at the end.

[@kezfaz6429]

They're your kids no matter how old they are!!!

[@narayanstar7787]

Which tells me she was guilty of murder and trying to cover up by acting like nothing had changed in her life. She sure was busy that day ,I think she wanted everyone to see her acting normally.

[@OneBadAssMoMo]

I watched the interrogations of this dude and could not grasp the plot. Thanks Mike for laying it all for us. That's why we Love ya.

[@willkayl8793]

You’re right about the lack of action on the part of the police. That police force should be ashamed to be such.

[@Dottie1975]

I get odd reactions when I tell ppl who dont know this channel : "just had breakfast watching Mike talk about a murder case, it is such a lovely start of the, his way of telling is so funny without being ridiculous " but Mike.. Thank you!

[@3sisterswine413]

I can't believe his attorney had tears in her eyes. Smh. He must have been extremely manipulative.

[@Cec9e13]

Yeah, everyone's acting like it makes her a horrible person, it's more likely that he was a very sad, pathetic, and manipulative man, and how long has that girl been out of law school? A year? She looks, and sounds, SO young. Probably naive, idealistic, gullible, hadn't met a hardcore criminal yet, and he persuaded her to believe him and pity him.

[@3sisterswine413]

@@Cec9e13 absolutely

[@seahog1911]

@@Cec9e13 you mean believe her because woke attorney has compassion for cross dressers. What a messed up country we live in.

[@meggie11102]

@@seahog1911 lol wtf are you talking about?? The statement about him becoming a woman wasn’t literal. He gained weight and looks feminine. That’s it.

[@giggidygiggidy4884]

It’s so infuriating that the cops let her get murdered by waiting too long to intervene.

[@chrissunshine8275]

@@p2kCrime They should have taken them both in! Her murder would have been avoided. They let her get killed under their watch

[@ambermyers1330]

@@p2kCrime Who’s Hester? 🧐

[@mauricedavis2160]

My thoughts exactly!!!🙏😢⚖️🤔

[@cresshead]

@CallMeAvocado she made some bad choices and was in essence the architect of her own demise, she had the opportunity to go to the police and didn't... stupid girl

[@Blech-h9z]

@@p2kCrime I love judgemental people who wouldn't know empathy if it jumped up and bit them on the ass. My deepest sympathy to all the females in your orbit.

[@VictoriaMarch13]

I saw part of this trial where Scott's father was testifying. Bless his heart. He was admonished a few times for not waiting on the questions to be completed before trying to respond. It didn't click that this was the case until you started talking about him playing the trumpet, not showing up, and being found by the snow plow driver. RIP Scott & Heather

[@allisonnicole.]

Mike has such great comedic timing. Gotta love him!

[@julieoluna8887]

I find him annoying and disrespectful.

[@v3ck1n]

@@julieoluna8887 Don't care + Didn't ask

[@Veritas111]

@@julieoluna8887 Move on then Julie, with over a million subscribers, you won’t be missed. 👋

[@skaughtsavage]

@@julieoluna8887 tell us Julie, do you also walk into restaurants and loudly proclaim how much you don't like the food?

[@sonjastanger5858]

Ikr

[@Ronnie_Roy]

Why on earth was his lawyer shedding a tear like his guilty verdict was a travesty of justice. Was she sad that we didn't get to know the real man behind the murders like his victims did! As if his rap sheet/record didn't tell us all what an abusive violent man he really was. Great vid Mike . Defence lawyers honestly!

[@mag8259]

Hey! Soon, if we lucky, will hear that his lawyer and him are married and sooooo muchhhh in loveeee 😂😂😂😂

[@TheRealEMURSE]

Kevin's probably got a big one, that's why 🌭

[@CodeeXD]

She was throwin it back for him

[@cathy_p637]

A delusional, evil man takes the lives of two innocent people. The police watch them for days, with an arrest warrant in hand and yet they don't. I can't understand what they thought they would learn by tracking them instead of arresting them. So damned sad.

[@bettywith2girls]

I think LE was tailing them, the killer and Heather (bc they didn't know she wasn't involved in the killing of Scott at her house), to get more evidence. See if they would lead LE to the murder weapon or anyone else involved...I don't think they knew Heather was scared or in danger bc she was acting "normally", apparently,

[@honestyisadyingvirtue]

More info. An arrest warrant isn't a guaranteed stay in jail card. He could've just killed her when they got out if they didnt have enough evidence. She looked complicit, didn't even bother to save herself. Yet you expect the Leo's too. Amazing.

[@victoriajohnson4420]

You'd also blame the police if they acted too quickly. He might have bailed out and fled or done even more harm. He might have gone to trial and been judged innocent for lack of evidence. PS, it is not illegal to be delusional or evil. These are judgement calls, and not valid reasons for arresting or convicting someone. If they were, we'd all be in jail, as others with different moral views would quickly place charges. Cancel culture, anyone?

[@JammaOG]

pathetic policing her death is on them 100%

[@amityislandchum]

They wanted to play spy. Piece of shit bastards, like all cops.

[@robertrazo4330]

Love how the judge gives a life sentence with no parole but then give credit for time served.

[@ZachsWonderland]

Being from Colorado it's so strange when our cases are mentioned haha although sorta fun fact we do hold quite a few high profile prisoners in the southern part of the state

[@TAGMZs63]

Poor Heather. The police were right there and could have saved her from that maniac. What a senseless tragedy

[@bettywith2girls]

Yet...I'm amazed that she didn't try to save herself either...unless he drove her to everything she went to and drove her back. Even then, she could at the least passed a note to a co-worker or to the nail person that she was in danger and to call the police...told them everything, how he had killed Scott and where the body was...but she didn't. I'm sure she was terrified and had 3 sons to protect, but it also would have been beneficial if she alerted the police, even indirectly, herself. I don't know how the police would know that Heather wasn't just in on the murder of Scott (helped out the killer) as she appeared to go about her business as usual afterwards?

[@Kushby]

@@bettywith2girls Exactly. Its pretty hard to believe an innocent person goes through their normal routines while living at a murder scene for a week. Its also pretty hard to believe a person scared for their sons lives would go out to dinner with them, act perfectly normal, and still refuse to notify the police. If you are scared for you, and your sons life, sitting face to face to one of them but then proceed to leave to go back home to a muderer..?? It makes no sense.

[@lilia7870]

She could have reported him to the police by getting her sons with her first

[@honestyisadyingvirtue]

She didn't even bother to save herself, yet you expect them to be what, predictors of crime? Easy to blame a job you never have to do. It's easy to criticize something we now have knowledge of afterwards. Yet they didn't at the time. It doesn't matter if he had abused her before. She didn't act like she was scared. They can't just go in for no reason and bust her out. Then the times the cops do try to help. They are demonized still by women and family who refuse to press charges and put them away. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[@carewser]

it's easy to have 20/20 hindsight but the cops didn't even have enough evidence to get a search warrant let alone charge anyone

[@WolfOnTheEdge]

I stumbled upon Mike and That Chapter late one night and I can't miss an episode now. I also always say "Tirty-Tree" at random points in my day. Thank you Mike.

[@RayDavies452]

Mike, your videos are so well done - blending gallows humor and also real empathy in a way that's very rare. Give this guy a Netflix show.

[@melissamoonchild9216]

well said

[@annaritavrabel]

Hi Mike! Back to Colorado, my home state. How exciting! Thank you! ❤

[@ThatChapter]

Hope you enjoy the video!

[@annaritavrabel]

@@ThatChapter Always! Thank you so much! ❤️

[@PassTheMarmalade1957]

Would just like to say something for the people who are confused by Heather's behaviour. Some victims come to feel that they can prevent and control their abuser's violence by obeying, because they believe that the violence is caused by them - "This never would have happened if I had done what he wanted. This is my fault." Heather probably just fell back into a survival mode of doing anything to keep Kevin from getting angry, believing that if she tried to leave like she did before, it would just result in Kevin killing someone else.

[@Person01234]

So what you're telling me is that this abusive man who just murdered her boyfriend in front of her, he was the one that suggested his "girlfriend" go get her nails done? And this woman who was so cowed into compliance and going along with her captor told him to piss off when he asked her to marry him again? I'm not saying these things are impossible, but they really don't track with the story being presented here in my opinion. There is something off about their behaviour that does not jive with the idea that she was a helpless victim start to finish. It feels more likely to me that they were in on it together but there was a huge blowup at some point and he got rid of her as well, after the fact. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened either.

[@ediblefredible]

@@Person01234 i agree, it's really fishy. but i also don't want to completely dismiss the idea that she was so manipulated/traumatized/etc that she really thought everything would be ok if she just went about business as usual. the human brain has done stranger things. but again, it's very off

[@myibook141]

@@Person01234 EXACTLY!!! Society is so quick to excuse women

[@DownHillSkateTime]

@@ediblefredible Its pretty hard to believe that she witnessed he new boyfriend being murdered in front of her and she just kept going to work for a week. The only possibility I can think of that she didnt get help was maybe if Kevin was holding her kids hostage and threating to kill them.. Still, you'd think anyone would have tried to seek some sort of help in that situation. She doesnt seem as innocent as Mike tries to paint her in this seemingly nonsensical story.

[@ediblefredible]

@@DownHillSkateTime oh i also personally don't think it adds up and she wasn't innocent. just thinking out loud i suppose lol, but you have a fair point i'm only going off this one vid

[@Sunny_7727]

I remember watching this trial, it was so difficult to watch when they tried to frame someone else for it! It was absolutely horrible!!

[@amityislandchum]

It's the same defense strategy that anyone would have used, because it's a plausible option.

[@irenejones7147]

Thanks!

[@JesseDStreams2]

The ONLY thing I love about my first day having to go back to work is knowing that when I get home I know that there will be a new ‘That Chapter’ video waiting for me at home. 🙌🏻

[@brittysophiemargot]

Have a great day at work!

[@mariaday8040]

I love you too Mike !! A talented man who brought so much joy to people through his music, killed because of jealousy.

[@PeppermintPJ90025]

I watched most of the trial and it was often confusing. The two blonde defense lawyers were totally incompetent. Thanks for filling in some of the blanks; now I understand more clearly what happened.

[@callmetravesty8762]

Remember, when the psycho who has you against your will asks if you want to get married, you say YES. Stall for any time you can get!

[@shadowmage661]

Some people are really dumb and take no responsibility. She probably just autopilotted through life. Why else do you take a multi-time abuser back over and over?

[@SuperScottCrawford]

@@shadowmage661 the point is buy some time then _go to the police at your FIRST chance!_

[@avaforshort681]

@ConfusedOilPainter I believe he stayed in house with her children whilst she ran errands as a form of control of her, he probably even threatened to harm them as well.

[@LanceVanceDance84]

@@avaforshort681 Doesn't Mike say in the video that after Scott was killed she went out to dinner with her son and his girlfriend? If so, then that coupled with the fact that her son claimed that she seemed "normal" after Scott died/before she was killed indicates that her kids had no clue what was going on, may have been old enough to defend themselves better than if they were still literal children, and were likely living elsewhere. There's something really off about all this and I'm not sure that I fully buy the whole "she was forced/her kids were threatened" story, especially when considering that she went about her daily routine as if nothing had ever happened.

[@S30Uploads]

My psychotic ex said yes after manipulating me to ask her. Sorry, yes she said when I asked her to make me the happiest man in the world... that followed by telling me she didn't believe in any of the wedding vows after a visit from an incest relationship of hers

[@kalanirae]

Yay! Today is my birthday and I am so happy and excited to get an episode from That Chapter! We love you, Mike! Thank you for all you do!

[@jocelienjimenez9821]

Happy Birthday Kalani Fergus and many Blessings to you wishing you a wonderful Day .Thank you💐🎂🍰🍾🥂🎈🎉

[@jypsyjewels2854]

How much crazy bs did people get away with before cell phones

[@ericfranchi1354]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Blloch19]

Mike.. you shouldn’t really have to thank us for watching these videos. Of course it allows you to make this your actual job - but that’s because of the work and effort, and it’s personality you put into these! You’re the reason you’re successful, not us! You just give us entertaining and accurate videos to watch and we do..and that’s all we do. Give yourself a high five, cause as someone who’s followed you for years and watched you evolve into the successful creator you are now - I’m proud of you and thank you!

[@trishcraft]

I'm happy his prayers were answered.

[@maisenbrown196]

His lawyer was more upset then he was

[@SomeGuyFromOK]

Is that attorney serious right now? She wishes we could meet the Kevin that they knew? The same one with warrants for domestic assault? She needs to find a new career because she’s not very good at her job. Everyone knows it’s not the person you meet that you should worry about, it’s who they are behind closed doors.

[@SongJLikes]

Why wouldn’t they immediately arrest a murder suspect when they had arrest warrants? Also, Eastman even charmed his own attorney.. wow.

[@traceyj2765]

That’s one of the hallmark character traits of a sociopath or a narcissist. This is one reason why they’re such dangerous people;

[@badabing8152]

because they didn't know if she was a murder suspect as well. The stupidity of people is truly astounding.

[@RichieRouge206]

Wow what an emotionally devoid guy. He looks like a Fraggle Rock character. He's got such a cold, empty stare. The lawyer crying is a bit weird too. Great video Mike!

[@sionandjess]

What an horrific man. Jealousy caused him to take the life of two innocent people. So so sad .

[@ALCRAN2010]

PSA: "A and An are two different forms of the same word: the indefinite article a that is used before noun phrases. Use a when the noun or adjective that comes next begins with a consonant sound. Use an when the noun or adjective that comes next begins with a vowel sound. Remember that what matters is the pronunciation, not the spelling."

[@caitlinbailey1685]

@@ALCRAN2010 You didn’t use quotations in your PSA and it made this hard to read

[@nevermindthe]

Just because Heather did normal activities, doesn't mean she felt ok. Shed already tried to escape the guy brutalising her. By that point, I'm sure she was terrified, trapped & acting normal hoping she wouldnt be murdered. I wonder if he killed her just so she couldnt date while he was in prison..

[@Scarethelocals]

I agree she was probably also afraid to go to police because either they wouldn't believe her , leave her unprotected, or even charge her with the murder. It's a terrifying position to be in especially if you're brainwashed and knowing you can't slip, make him mad, paranoid or any little thing to make him kill you too.

[@jenniferb2763]

Absolutely agree. I don't think she'd ever be able to escape Kevin. Heartbreaking

[@Kisha_can]

@@Scarethelocals He probably threatened to hurt her kids if she went to the police. It's the only thing that makes sense.

[@pinkbubblesnake]

Yeah I'd be freaking terrified. Not only had she got away, but he came back. Found her new boyfriend and killed him? Surely from then on she'd be in survival mode.

[@judiashley5818]

True but she convinced him to come back after he left and tried to get over the relationship

[@laurenbailey8533]

Wow. He’s one creepy mother lover. He didn’t even flinch at the trial. And….seriously made my stomach turn when his lawyer was shedding a tear 😬 Also- congratulations on your wedding Mike 😊🥳

[@afonphoenix16]

Scott was my friend. He just wanted to fall in love, and was so happy to have a girlfriend. He was SO happy to see everyone, he really was everybody's friend. Miss you, buddy.😢

[@LadyMysanthrope]

GREAT JOB COPS. They had an entire week to save Heather.

[@Bladerunner_2019]

Congrats Mike. Hope you both have a long happy life.

[@sweeneytodd011]

The police seriously messed up here. They carried on watching Heather and Kevin and Heather died as a result of their inaction. Let's face it the possible scenarios when the police were watching them were, either Kevin, jealous ex had lured the new man over to the house and killed him and Heather was an unwilling participant in the crime meaning she was now in danger herself or the two of them were working together to kill the new boyfriend but there is absolutely no motive for Heather in that scenario whatsoever so it should have been obvious that scenario number two was extremely unlikely and it was more likely Heather wasn't part of the murder and therefore very likely in danger from her unhinged ex as she was a valuable witness. The cops should have seen this it's so obvious.

[@justmythoughts6313]

Hind sight is always 20/20. With your logic, we could actually say she got herself killed by getting involved with the looser in the first place.

[@sweeneytodd011]

@@justmythoughts6313 I'm just struggling to see what benefits the police thought they could gain by monitoring the pair over time, they already knew that one or both were involved in the murder and the most likely scenario was that the ex was the killer and Heather was an unwilling participant. Whatever their thoughts they must have been aware that they were taking a significant risk with her life by continuing to allow them to carry on without bringing them in. I do understand its easy for me to say with the benefit of hindsight but nonetheless they must have been aware of the possible theories and the risk to further lives being lost by choosing their course of action.

[@leighgifford4050]

Those kids won’t have a mom now, will they?

[@EYE_GOTCHA]

Punctuation is your friend 😊

[@NASkeywest]

I mean. She was going to work, seen alive and fine with him. They really had no reason to suspect she was in danger.

[@D-Ross86]

Appreciate you Mike. From Tampa, FL ❤️

[@felixlucanus7922]

His lawyer is tearing up at the end, amazing....

[@hopeywankanobigreyjediextr2401]

It's so odd watching his attorney cry for him!

[@KarmicSalt]

shows how effective his manipulation could be.

[@hopeywankanobigreyjediextr2401]

@@KarmicSalt it's definitely frightening.

[@nugglung4853]

Super sweet! Thank you Mike. Needed a new That Chapter in my life today.

[@ThatChapter]

Always here!

[@nugglung4853]

@@ThatChapter We all very much appreciate you and your dedication to superior content, I know I do.