LYMA Laser: Review After 3 Months (Acne, Wrinkles, Scars)

I used the LYMA skin laser for three months. It's designed for #acne, #rosacea, #wrinkles, sagging, #cellulite, #scars, thread veins, bruises, #hyperpigmentation and eye lifting.
I took 'before' and 'after' photos, interviewed the company's founder - Lucy Goff, and summarized everything I like and don't like about the device.
JUMP TO THE BITS YOU WANT TO SEE👇
00:35 - why I got in touch with LYMA
01:10 - unboxing
02:27 - a bit about how laser skin benefits were discovered
04:39 - how laser light works
04:55 - Lucy describes the difference between LED light and #laser light
06:38 - what a 'cold laser' is
07:50 - is that why my chin spots look worse when I use the LYMA?
08:18 - what is the LYMA laser best for?
09:07 - what if you don't get results like the pictures on the LYMA website?
12:07 - can you use it too much?
12:41 - any complaints about that blue light affecting sleep?
14:19 - why I didn't always use the LYMA skin serum and mist
14:55 - about the skin serum and mist
18:23 - pH level and why I care about it
19:45 - how much would US customers pay for the skin products per month?
20:13 - how does Lucy respond to criticism of the LYMA price tag?
22:51 - how do consumers know they're getting the real deal?
25:40 - comparing my 'before' and 'after' photos
LYMA did not ask me to make this video. LYMA did not gift or loan me the laser.
❗️UPDATE: Since publishing this video, I've received regular emails asking if I am still using the laser. I'm sorry if I can't always respond to your messages (I had a baby!), but here's a link to an article in which I've included my current thoughts on the LYMA laser:
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[@MsTerriblelie]

This is the kind of video that is really useful and helpful: honest, exhaustive, and comprehensible. Thank you very much!!!

[@HealthHackers]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for supporting my work :)

[@boho779]

I purchased this laser and have been using for 4 months. It's made no positive difference and the website won't allow real people to post reviews. The company immediately deleted my honest comments on IG and blocked two of my profiles. Shameful.

[@HealthHackers]

😳

[@wayevs]

It's all marketing tbh. I decided not to listen to this review when I heard she had spoken to the owners of the company - was always from then on going to a advertisement review.

[@michellenachtigall7469]

@@wayevs it actually wasn't. She was pretty critical at times.

[@sondranielson9114]

Way 2 exspensive!!

[@HealthHackers]

@@michellenachtigall7469 thank you for watching the full video!

[@emeraldalice8388]

Fantastic video, I love how you focused on the science and studies and didn’t let the fact that you had an interview with the founder sway your overall opinions

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks! That means a lot to me.

[@alisonnaughton9482]

Fantastic review on this! The best on youtube. Thank you x

[@HealthHackers]

Wow thanks for the lovely feedback Alison! 🙏

[@somadas2792]

Super thorough video. Thank you for doing this for the skin -care enthusiasts of the world!

[@HealthHackers]

Thank you for such lovely feedback! I’m glad it was worth the watch. 😊

[@glamorebeautybar4085]

This was an excellent excellent video thank you so much for posting this this was amazing loved the interview

[@HealthHackers]

Thank you! I really appreciate your comment!

[@fitnessworkouts6337]

Great review and interview. I found it to be informative. In terms of the effect the product had on your skin over 3 months, I don’t really think your skin has deep wrinkles, pigmentation,sagging or scarring from pictures posted, so it makes it very difficult to see any noticeable changes. Thankyou for your review though, it was quite insightful having heard what questions were asked and responses from the maker.

[@HealthHackers]

I appreciate this feedback! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.

[@irmaaviles2672]

Good interview. I'm not a Lyma customer yet, but after this, I am seriously considering purchasing.

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks for watching, Irma. I’m curious to discover how you get on with the laser if you do decide to purchase!

[@alexanderwoodley]

Don't waste your money,it doesn't do a thing.

[@mboulangere3818]

Thank you for the video and the interview. It was really well done with all the right questions asked. It was also very balanced, much more so than the other Lyma reviews I have seen. I would love a six month update too. I have been using this laser for 15 minutes twice a day for 3 weeks now on my face and neck. The Lyma concierge told me I should spend 15 to 30 minutes daily for a minimum of 3 to 6 months. I saw a definite improvement in the area around your eyes. Hope to see another video, short or not, in 3 months.

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks for the feedback on the video. Impartiality and honesty are key to me and my reviews. 👍 It’d be good to hear how you get on with the #Lyma laser over time! I wondered if it was just the lighting change around my eyes? I know the Lyma website says “15 minutes daily won’t just improve your skin, it will transform it,” but I used it a lot longer than 15 mins. Some days I’d laser my face for about 1 hour and 45 mins. The more I think about doing a 6 month update, the more I realize it wouldn’t be valid. I’ve already been using other skin interventions since releasing the video and am set to continue because of my age and impatience!🤣

[@mboulangere3818]

@@HealthHackers ok understood re the 6th month review and it not being valid. The 15 min for Lyma is minimum, I also use it for a very long time (while watching an entire Netflix film for example). Sure I can and will update over time. In my opinion, although it is a very expensive initial outlay, if it can even postpone some aging over the next ten years, then it will be worth it. Let's see...

[@HealthHackers]

I see exactly what you’re saying. I feel the same in the hope that it’s doing something, even if over a longer period. Good luck with it and thanks for getting in touch! 🤞

[@dhuniya108]

​@@mboulangere3818 please kindly update us on the latest status and experience with this lyma device? I think the price tag is pretty much impossible for many of us. But it'd be incredibly helpful and generous of you to share your view! Especially since you have used it a couple of years now xxx sending love

[@mboulangere3818]

@@dhuniya108 I am sorry but I am not going to be super helpful. This is what I can say. I feel like I did start to see results after about 7 months. During the renovation of my apartment, the thing somehow got misplaced for months, I got out of the habit, and I am only starting again now. I tremendouslty regret not having used it. consistently. I literally just started again yesterday, so have to say that I am still undecided re how well it works. Now that I have found it again, I plan to use it every day again. There must be others out there now that have been consistently using it for a while now. I am also going to look for some updated reviews.

[@PaigeElkington]

Please keep us updated! We'd appreciate a 6 month update. As of now, I feel like your real results don't justify the price tag. The photos on the website show significant change which maybe don't translate in real life.

[@HealthHackers]

I wasn’t planning on a six month update but now I think I might! Although, if nothing’s changed, it will make a VERY short video. 🤣 Thanks for watching Paige 👍

[@getfit5041]

There’s absolutely no Google’s reviews for this product, I want to buy but need more real reviews

[@violetleong]

@@HealthHackers looking forward to the followup review. Like ​ @Get Fit mentioned, theres actually no Google reviews for this product. Given the high price tag, its better to do more research.

[@laysjones6214]

What I wanted to know what is the power of the wave length. My machine that I use at home is 645mm. How can that have more? 😁

[@user-oz6oz6kv7l]

@@laysjones6214 what machine do you have? I’m looking for a good one for stretch marks!

[@biengood879]

Thank you Gemma for this video. Just further question please. Do you think it works as well for post cellulitis melanin/hyperpigmentation? Thank you so much 😊

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks Bien. I wish I could help but I haven’t tried it on hyperpigmentation.😊

[@caracalla9666]

Thanks for the review! Comparing the BEFORE and AFTER pictures I don't see any results that are convincing me. For wrinkles, we as a Beauty Salon have beautiful results with a bi-/multi-polar RF, used once a week for 5-8 weeks. The home device RF you may use twice a week for a longer time of course.

[@garygoldstein7815]

Excellent review! Please update when time allows.

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks for watching!

[@danschweri]

Great video! I don't see much effect on your before/after pictures either, but you already had great skin before, so maybe we'd see more results on somebody older? Did you continue using the device?

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks Daniel! I did continue and I still use it. I’ve been happy with my skin but I’m also pregnant now and noticed that my skin texture improved all over my body once I was pregnant so I may need to attribute that to hormonal changes rather than the laser!

[@victoriabarnett3352]

I have been using the laser every day for 20 minutes on my face. I took before and after photos and there is a significant difference in my skin after 3 months. If I hadn't have taken the before pics, then I'm not sure I would have realized how different my skin looks as it's a very gradual transformation. I throughly recommend the laser.

[@HealthHackers]

Happy for you! Sounds like it was a good investment for you then. What did you think of my before and afters?

[@jenhesse22]

What were the skin concerns that the laser was able to improve?

[@HealthHackers]

Would love to know this too 😊

[@victoriabarnett3352]

@@HealthHackers To be honest, I couldn’t see much difference in your before and after shots. There was much more of a difference in mine. I am , however, older than you at 49 and therefore more that needed improvement.

[@victoriabarnett3352]

@@jenhesse22 The skin concerns were mainly jowels and giving everything a ‘lift’. Also the neck area was beginning to need attention.

[@farzanahnasser1046]

Thank you ! Great review

[@HealthHackers]

Thank you for watching!

[@elisirmask1991]

You can use our mask for skin treatment! :)

[@petersmith143]

👏👏 A great interview. Definitely a VERY serious financial outlay. I'd certainly want to consult a doctor prior to committing to using it. For someone who's got major skin trouble it could be beneficial, but the purchase / monthly costs would be have to be carefully considered. Definitely thought provoking, Gemma 👍☺️

[@HealthHackers]

Points well made, Pete! Makes sense. Thanks for watching, as always.

[@elisirmask1991]

You can use our mask for skin treatment!

[@bluemoon6811]

Doctors have no business commenting about anything they haven't studied in depth so be sure to consult one whose interests is in d area of lasers

[@melanieturner3578]

Great informative video.

[@HealthHackers]

Thank you Melanie!

[@westcoast1664]

Hi Gemma, great video. :) I love how your opinion is always unbiased. I just wanted to get your insight if you think this laser is 100% safe? I read that you should never us LLLT laser over your thyroid gland as this can disrupt it and also in the medical resources I've read, they stated you should always wear goggles. Why are they saying that googles aren't required with this particular laser? Also since this laser operates at a 808nm wavelength, it penetrates the maximum in the skin. Do you have any insight if this can reach your organs etc.? Any insight is greatly appreciated.

[@HealthHackers]

Hi West Coast. Thanks for watching! On your point about the thyroid, I’m aware of research that looked at potential positive effects of LLLT on thyroid function, not negative. Do you have a link to where you read that LLLT is proven to disrupt the thyroid gland? I’d like to read that. As for the lack of goggles with the LYMA, the company maintains that it is safe to use around the eyes because of its “optical arrangement”. However, they obviously don’t advise looking directly at it, but you wouldn’t want to anyway - it’s bright!

[@westcoast1664]

@@HealthHackers Hi Gemma, I will find the article for you. I need to search for it. :) Also I have a question for you. Did the blue light ever bother your eyes when you used the laser? When you used it on your face, did you need to look into a mirror, because you still see the light emitting from it when you use it if you need to look into the mirror to use it. Does this make sense? Thank you!

[@HealthHackers]

The blue light brightness hasn’t bothered my eyes when using as suggested (ie not deliberately looking at it!). And no, I don’t use in front of a mirror. I’m usually watching TV or video calling my fam when I use it. 😊

[@MrFunandgames123]

Thanks for the video. However I think someone with more wrinkles would have been more convincing! You had great youthful skin to start with so I'm not especially convinced as you still have great youthful skin afterwards.

[@garygoldstein7815]

The "Before and After" photos are using different light sources. The lighting on the "After" photos is indirect and the skin tones are warmer.

[@HealthHackers]

On which pics? Mine or Lyma’s? My ones were taken in front of a window for natural light.

[@excellentcomment]

On Lyma's

[@bettyspring6075]

the pictures showing the scar fading was clearly obviously photoshop, I can't see any change, thanks for saving me from buying

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks for watching Betty

[@SB-hj3mg]

Thank you for the review! Do they have a mask, I'm too impatient for spending 30mnts rolling a device on my face it seems tiring and time-consuming for the on-the-go folks?

[@HealthHackers]

A mask would certainly be a time-saving option!

[@ADN4N20101]

Surely if they had that much trust in their own product they would offer a money back guarantee.

[@charleskorecky2210]

That is my thinking on it! You get a ridiculously measly 14 day return window and the laser has to be UNUSED and unopened, basically. It's an expensive scam and these greedy jerks should be ashamed of themselves

[@saxtothemax76]

You said you use other products instead of the serum and mist please could you let us know which ones ? As it’s so expensive to keep purchasing lymas mist and serum. I am based in the UK . Thank you for your great and honest review .

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks for watching. I just use it with my normal daily moisturizers. Sometimes I add something a bit more oily to get a better ‘glide’, like squalane.

[@evemorris1435]

Well that was a very fair interview and the lady was clearly very up on the product and knows her stuff. She also has very good skin herself it seems. I will email you in 10 years to see how your wrinkles are not developing Gemma. I wonder if someone who is not far from 70 will have success with this product, or should just put the money towards a face lift?

[@HealthHackers]

Thank you for watching! 🙏 I look forward to receiving your email in 10 years. 🤣🤣

[@elisirmask1991]

You can use our mask for skin treatment :))

[@alisoncoles1565]

Hi, so it's now been 8 months since you started using it.. have you continued with it, and have you noticed any significant improvements in your skin, wrinkles, firmness etc? Very keen and curious to know... thanks

[@HealthHackers]

Hi Alison. I have continued to use it. However, my skin texture appeared to improve in general once I became pregnant earlier this year. I feel like I’d really have to credit pregnancy hormones rather than the laser for that. 🤷‍♀️ I do find the laser helps areas of my facial skin feel calmer if I’ve had some minor irritation on my cheeks, for example. Sorry if that’s not very helpful. 😕

[@alisoncoles1565]

@@HealthHackers Congratulations on your pregnancy! You're probably right regarding your skin changes being due to the hormonal changes in pregnancy. Seems that the Lyma laser isn't all it's cracked up to be then if it just calms areas of irritation and nothing else 🤷. I'm thinking calomine lotion would probably do the same thing for that... Much less time and money too! 🤣

[@KellyTar1]

Hi, what is the difference between the Lyma and other LLLT handheld devices? There are several that combine 808nm and 650nm . Most of them cost around $350, a fraction of the price of the Lyma, and it seems like the technology is the same.

[@Enjoytheshow435]

They’re exactly the same thing. Maybe the one you buy for your dog to treat her arthritis is much stronger than this ridiculously expensive device.

[@lapetite8847]

Will Lyma be releasing a face & neck mask etc ... would be great to have different devices for different areas so you can just put it on & go about your business

[@HealthHackers]

I have no idea but I would rather one you could “wear” too 👍

[@natcers]

The CEO's skin's amazing!

[@traceysimmonds8649]

hI PLEASE can you do an update of the laser as i was unsure when it came out and im still not sure because of the price so has it worked for you xxx thank you

[@HealthHackers]

Hi Tracey! Thanks for watching. After making this video I had a baby and haven’t used the LYMA laser much since she was born because I don’t have time to hold it on my face for the duration that I’d want to. I tried to use it on my C-section scar, but again, it’s a time issue.😬

[@isabel313258]

I don’t see enough of a difference to merit it’s cost

[@HealthHackers]

I can understand that

[@Letthesoulshine717]

thank you ..would u say this is better than skin needling?

[@HealthHackers]

I don’t think I’ve ever tried skin needling so couldn’t say 🤷‍♀️

[@arlenekufchock1394]

Thanks for your review! Your smile wrinkles to the left of your left eye (me looking at from right side) look less pronounced, but then the residual 3 wrinkles to the left of them look non-existent, like they went away. Is that the result of your camera? The lighting is different in your 2nd photo, could you recreate your second photo with the same initial light conditions? Or at least use the same setup for future photos? Can you compare to someone who used the Tria Age-Defying SmoothBeauty laser? Can you please give us an update at gradually bigger intervals such as 3mo, 6mo, 9mo, 12mo, 18mo, 24mo, 36mo? Can you please compare it to newer 999,000 flash no-cartridge-refill IPLs that have separate settings for Acne Removal (RA) and Skin Rejuvenation (SR)? Have you heard if those work, or just take longer, predictably, but heard of actual results from someone who tried both IPL on one side of the face, and Laser on another, haha? Or if you haven't tried those IPLs, have you had friends try to compare? Thanks for answering some or all of my questions!

[@Tereselynn]

WOW! i want one!

[@EnforcedPolicy]

It's a scam product. Sunlight is way better

[@initialize21]

I’m considering getting this for my rosacea… do you think it will work? I’m getting desperate at this point

[@HealthHackers]

Honestly Nick, I just couldn’t tell you if it would work for you. I’m sorry, and I remember what that skin desperation feels like. 😢

[@nidamumtaz2238]

Is the laser device good for old deep stretch marks?

[@alexandragheorghe7896]

should it be used only with serum/gel or can it be used also directly on dry skin? is it safe if I use it on my neck in the thyroid area or should I avoid the thyroid area?

[@HealthHackers]

Hi Alexandra, I asked Lucy about the serum/gel in the video. She explains why she recommends it. I personally don’t use the laser with the LYMA products. I use my own moisturizer.

[@alexandragheorghe7896]

@@HealthHackers thank you for your feedback 🙂 But can I use it without any serum..cream? Just on the dry skin? What about the thyroid?

[@HealthHackers]

There’s nothing to stop you using without any product but I think you might find it hard to glide without moisture. I don’t know the answer to your thyroid question, sorry.

[@parulsingh4048]

Hi anyone can help? My device charger stopped working within 6 months of purchase. Anyone can help and advise who to reach. I contacted concierge but have not received any response

[@BrazilianGirlChannel]

Hi great video. Could you pls do an updated video? Or could you just reply to this comment? Did you see any further results after doing this video?. I read in the comments you had a baby. congratulations! I know w kids it's so hard to find time. But before you had the baby did you noticed any other improvements on you skin from the laser that was not shown on the before and after. This is so expensive. I'd really appreciate your honesty on any other results seen. Thanks

[@HealthHackers]

Hi! It’s really hard to tell. I felt my skin was great throughout pregnancy and that may have been due to hormonal changes. Since having my baby and breastfeeding, I’ve had dryer skin, less ‘plump’ to my face, and honestly feel like my crows feet are more pronounced than ever. However, I don’t use the laser as often as I’d like. I do feel like it helps calm irritation if my cheeks feel a little inflamed at times. And the mini spot scar on my cheek (referenced in the video) is less visible.

[@BrazilianGirlChannel]

@@HealthHackers thank you so much for honest response. After having my baby and breastfeeding I also felt my skin looked worse than during the pregnancy and I honestly didn't even had time to care too much till he was 1 years old and I looked in the mirror and started back taking care of my skin. So I can totally relate. 🥰👍🏻

[@TheSkinCodebyCody]

Hey there! How long have you now been using it? Have you seen any improvements? If it gives good results, I’d definitely buy it! 😃🦋

[@HealthHackers]

Hi! What did you think of the before/afters in the video?

[@TheSkinCodebyCody]

@@HealthHackers I agreed with the comments you make. It’s so difficult to accurately measure the effectiveness of devices like these because it’s nearly impossible to get the lighting/angles exactly the same. Don’t you think?

[@HealthHackers]

@@TheSkinCodebyCody I agree. I also feel that if I have to create perfectly matched lighting and angles to notice any difference at all, then perhaps the laser hasn't made a significant impact.

[@MJ-gj6mj]

I was considering this product for the dreaded keratosis pilaris and the accompanying skin discoloration that comes with that. However, for this price and the small size of the device I am not certain it would be a good investment. The photos on the website are quite drastic and do not compare to this real review. How grateful I am for legitimate reviews from actual users!

[@HealthHackers]

Hi MJ, thanks for your comment. I have KP on my upper arms and never actually thought of using the LYMA there! I do think I would find it uncomfortable to use the laser for that though. Like you suggested, the laser has a relatively small surface area and I’d have to stretch across my body with the other arm to hold and move the LYMA repeatedly over the KP area.🥴

[@bluemoon6811]

If this device were bigger it wouldn't fit around the eyes 👀

[@suziebeardshall8784]

I've been using the lyma laser for just over 3 months now and have very mixed views about it. Yes it's an initial expense..but I have been paying £400 every 3 months for collagen wave treatment which is good but wears off after a few weeks so the lyma laser which is said to give 10 years of use is overall a good investment. I'm 57 years old and I have been using the lyma laser twice a day for 15/20 minutes each time on my face neck and hands after watching the video on the lyma laser website and that 15 minutes is adequate, but having watched this video I am now wondering if this has been long enough as you are saying it's 15 minutes for each area... therefore it would be 2 hours each day! Overall I have been very pleased with the fact my skin appears tighter, brighter and some of my age spots are starting to diminish although not as much as I thought they would after looking at all the information on the lyma site about the effects of using this laser. It does rattle a bit as though the battery is loose which is a bit annoying but it doesn't affect the laser output. It's a bit difficult to keep the 2 hour battery recharge dates as I use it more on the odd days so I messaged the lyma team and asked if it had less effect when the battery was lower and they assured me it still worked at the same intensity. I still have some of my serum and mist left as I don't use it every time I use the laser as it doesn't glide over my skin as well as when I use my own moisturiser. I keep getting emails from the lyma company saying I must be running out of the serum and mist and the option to buy it again but now after watching this video I feel that it won't affect the results by not using them. I am going to now see how I go after 6 months as stated in this video rather than the 3 months I was initially told on their site.

[@HealthHackers]

Hi Suzie, thanks for your comment. I’d be really keen to hear what you think after six months. Like you say, doing 15 mins per area takes about two hours. Yep! It’s quite time consuming now that I try to use it in the daytime rather than nighttime (I’m attempting to minimize blue light at nighttime for my circadian rhythm). Some days I just can’t use it for as long as I’d like. Keep in touch and I’m glad you’re enjoying it after investing in it. You deserve to!

[@suziebeardshall8784]

@@HealthHackers thankyou and I'm going to see how I get on for the first 6 month of using the Lyma laser. It seems pretty effective already...

[@HealthHackers]

Fab. Good luck!

[@NA._]

How much of an improvement do you see compared to other modalities? Have people commented on the improvements?

[@suziebeardshall8784]

@@NA._ it's been 8 months since Ive been using the Lyma Laser now and I have noticed my face has toned up tremendously especially under my chin, I exercise a lot and eat healthy (always have done) so I wasn't saggy and wrinkly just some creases under my eyes and starting to lose some elasticity under my chin, but I can say using this laser for half an hour every day has toned up my face, chin and neck area made my skin glow and it generally feels tighter and I can highly recommend this laser if you are prepared to use it daily and consistently to see the excellent results....yes it's an expensive cost initially but in the long term I feel it is a good investment as I no longer pay £400 every 3 months for a collagen wave treatment and I now have the laser for future years! I would say the results of using the Lyma Laser is gradual over the months and I am impressed by how much my skin has improved generally.

[@JME_C]

So tempted by this but just not sure the results justify the price tag!

[@HealthHackers]

I don’t think I’m sure either 🤷‍♀️

[@blakemangat1695]

The only things I will be investing in is the laser. The additional products not required for me. Happy just to use the laser to get the 'longer' results. £2k is stupid amounts of money. Would have liked to have know how this compares to co2 fraction laser?

[@HealthHackers]

Good question. They may be able to tell you if you email Lyma!

[@jennybolter1102]

is this the same as OSALIS LASER LIGHT PAIN THERAPY DEVICE reading the info on the Stress no more website it sounds very familiar it uses LLLT cold laser and pretty much does the same and more? can anyone confirm this thanks

[@thisisaname4661]

I've been wondering if there is a risk of facial fat loss from using this? NIR laser light and LLLT has been used as treatments for body contouring and fat loss and they say right on their website that is penetrates to the fat layers

[@HealthHackers]

I can’t say I’ve noticed any facial fat loss. But I’d be interested to hear from other users on that.

[@thisisaname4661]

@@HealthHackers Me neither and I've been using it for over 6 months. I've been doing a lot of reading on NIR for fat loss and they say it doesn't actually burn off fat but allows the cells to release stored fat into the bloodstream. You still need a calorie deficit diet to see results. So as long as you're eating enough I think it should be safe? I've contacted the company to see what they say.

[@HealthHackers]

Given the laser only has a small surface area (as you know!) it’d be interesting to hear what response you get from the company. Would you want a facial device that triggers fat loss?

[@thisisaname4661]

@@HealthHackers This is the response I got: "I can assure you that the LYMA laser will not cause any fat loss or loss of volume in the face. The laser treatments that you refer to are IPL and ablative lasers that work on a stress damage response on the skin that causes damage to the layers of the skin, which can sometimes result in damage to the fat cells and therefore result in the appearance of a thinner face. The LYMA laser will lift and tighten dimpled skin, but it will not break down fat cells, burn fat or cause fat loss." They also included some studies and information on the lyma laser and LLLT. I responded back stating "Thank you. i was curious because I've seen companies promoting LLLT for fat loss as well as seeing some studies." Their response: "I'm pleased that I was able to help. Please do let me know if you have any further concerns or questions as and when they may arise."

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks for sharing. I wonder if “dimpled” skin = cellulite? Or else, I can’t think what it would refer to.

[@poppycrust6871]

Is there a follow up video or did you stop using?

[@HealthHackers]

Hi Poppy. Thanks for watching. There’s no up video. I had a baby and rarely have my hands free to be able to use the LYMA laser these days. I try to use it on my C-section scar when possible. Not sure if it’s made any difference yet though.

[@CyrusOmerta]

Can you post an update! This is great!

[@HealthHackers]

Hi Marc - my update is that I became pregnant and my skin texture improved all over my body! I'd say that's down to pregnancy rather than the laser though :)

[@scubadooboo]

@healthHackers I am soooo intrigued by this! But it is sooooo expensive! I would have to have it shipped to the US first and then to Kenya (by the way it's cheaper to get it in the US than in the UK as 2000 GBP are at the moment almost 2900 dollars!) Anyway, did you have to pay a lot of customs to get it into the US? Also, I would say that IF the device work, well, you are in your 30's, don't have wrinkles or sagging yet, so obviously I don't really see what it could really do except improve your skin texture / glow.... So that could be a reason there is not much result on you yet!

[@HealthHackers]

Hi Patricia! I asked my husband about the customs charges (because he got the LYMA laser for me as an Xmas present last year). He can't recall exactly but said if there had been major costs then he would have remembered that! Thanks for watching 😁

[@scubadooboo]

@@HealthHackers Thank you for your response! OK, that's encouraging! However , I really don't know if I should spend 2500 Dollars on this or wait that other companies come up with this technology for cheaper.... But thanks for the interview and your honest opinion? Will you continue using it? (or are you?-) and tnow that this video is 5 weeks old, have you seen more improvements?

[@HealthHackers]

I am continuing to use it, yep. Keeping my fingers crossed for improvements!🤞It’s a nice feeling just gliding it over my skin. It’s even nicer to think it may be doing great things for my skin.🤷‍♀️😊

[@DebbieJYang]

I think the lines around your eyes improved a bit, do keep us posted when you used it for 6 months.

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks Debbie. I’ve used the laser for about a year and a half now. I’ve written my current thoughts about it in a section on this page: healthhackers.org/article-list/my-skin-products

[@cristinarisso8668]

Stem Cells from orchids? Not even those derived from human embryos are effective enough when applied on top of intact skin (not wounded). Oxygenated water? It will evaporate in seconds. Likely useless. Sure, lasers penetrate deeper than LEDs but IF they do, they will without the complimentary expensive products. Also, true, LLLT is more expensive than LEDs, but not this expensive (LLLT devices for hair growth are made of 272 Laser diodes and cost less than the LYMA, which has .. how many!?!?? Sure, the 5000 mW are impressive for an home device but it is handheld. It will take forever to cover properly your entire face ) . Sorry, the theory might be valid but the price is simply hilarious (in the negative sense of the word). Also, the extra pimples might be brought by those products, the PH of which , as you explained, is not ideal....

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks for watching Cristina. You’re right, I have a laser device for hair growth and it was a quarter of the price of the LYMA.

[@cristinarisso8668]

@@HealthHackers There is a ton of literature on LLLT but I doubt this small device will be able to offer the full spectrum of benefits which LLLT might offer. And the price really is madness (imo) :) , even without the skincare it comes with.

[@HealthHackers]

You sound well-versed in this field. 😊 Do you have a science background?

[@cristinarisso8668]

@@HealthHackers Thanks so much but no, I am just a very curious person whom reads a lot :)

[@HealthHackers]

👌🙌

[@nesshire927]

Hi does it work on depressed rolling scars and box scars?

[@HealthHackers]

You could email LYMA via the website and ask them. Personally, I still haven’t seen a significant improvement to the spot scar on my face that I mentioned in the video. But I found this on the LYMA site about acne scarring: lyma.life/journal/the-ultimate-home-laser-for-acne-scar-removal/

[@sanazsedghi276]

Hi any more updates on the this laser please

[@carolinezhao2771]

How did you get to purchase it from the US? I thought they don’t ship to the States yet?

[@HealthHackers]

They were definitely shipping to USA in December 2020.

[@carolinezhao2771]

@@HealthHackers really? That’s so strange lol. Now their website says they won’t be able to ship to the states until spring 2021 (which is now but the status remains unchanged)

[@HealthHackers]

🤔 My husband got me the laser for Xmas by ordering it online. It shipped from the UK to USA but he says it did get held up at customs for about a week, which meant it actually missed Xmas and arrived just after!

[@carolinezhao2771]

@@HealthHackers Oh my lol yeah custom is a pain. I’m thinking about having it shipped to China then have someone mail it to my US address cause I’m just a bit anxious to get my hands on it

[@HealthHackers]

Sounds like you really ARE anxious to get it!🤣 Have you tried emailing LYMA and asking when they’ll be resuming USA shipping?

[@adamdar5121]

The before and after pictures show zero improvement. Paying that sort of money and using the laser for a few months , you would expect some visible results especially with the claims the company makes

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks for your feedback on the photos Adam. It seems you're not alone with that opinion!

[@bluemoon6811]

I absolutely agree that your before & after photos look the same. Thanks for doing this video. Many products are just hyped up I'm very cautious now considering the price of this device

[@rosierace8051]

I agree you can’t see a difference but your skin is so good without anything to Improve that it seems like it would be impossible to tell. Looking gorgeous and youthful anyhow!

[@elenav971]

Can this laser be used in conjunction with RF like the tripollar?

[@HealthHackers]

You could contact Lyma through their website and see if they have an answer for you. 🤞

[@jenniferf5077]

Did you find an answer?

[@dhyanmukta]

Can it flattern and recolour hypertrophic scars?

[@HealthHackers]

I don’t know but I’ve been trying to use it on my c section scar recently🤞

[@parischatelet]

Does Lyma come with both blue and red color laser?

[@HealthHackers]

My one shines blue.

[@Marcelo_20.24]

Interesting,but I think is very tiring to circle around the face for about 45 min.I think a Face mask with this lights integrated would be a better solution... basically lay back and relax...

[@HealthHackers]

Agreed! I would love to try a mask with the same technology.

[@noelantoine1450]

What happened with her skin that compelled her to use Lyma? Eczema? Scarring?

[@HealthHackers]

Brace yourself for a long read 😊 healthhackers.org/article-list/2018/7/17/did-this-drink-transform-my-skin

[@Pange3]

Says it penetrates the skin then says it only works in the surface of the skin on this video?

[@bluemoon6811]

That's what I heard too. I did rewind a little and heard the same thing a second time

[@helenadams949]

The LED light (competitor product and the blue light in this) are surface level but the laser part which is near invisible to the eye penetrates the deep layers of the skin

[@sulandelemere]

I don’t see an improvement :( Good job you can recover some of the costs by reviewing it. How about after three months?

[@HealthHackers]

Those pics were after three months

[@karlangaspiras674]

Do they have a patent on the Lyma laser?

[@HealthHackers]

No idea. Are you about to make a laser just like it?😜

[@karlangaspiras674]

@@HealthHackers haha! I wish. I was just thinking, at that price point, there’s gotta be a patent somehow!

[@crisj7704]

The interview was helpful to understand why this laser is so over priced. And they keep bumping up the price but no one says it's a bump up in the technology so grade is D- 1) Lighting: You should have matched lighting originally from pic one to pic two instead of saying you don't know if it's the lighting... You took time to do this video you could have easily matched the lighting with a ring light. So the jury is out on the results. 2) Your face before actually looks better. However, recommendation, if you had shared with us what part of the face you were actually working on it may have helped to see, but based on pics you shared, no clue what we're looking at... All looks the same for the most part. 3) The before pic looked better than the after pic so not sure if you're trying to over-sell the product with no commission but can't really see a big difference except your chin had more break out in the after pic. CONCLUSION: For a product close to 3000 USD dollars can barely see a difference NO way would buy this over priced hype... Yes, they spent years on the technology and they have to recoup their money back. But as far as drastic changes, NO. Sorry I can't see it. And spending 3000 dollars we need to see DRASTIC changes.

[@thisisaname4661]

For people who have this laser: Does it rattle a bit when you shake it? Like something is loose inside? Mine does and I was told as long as it turns on and all the lights are working that it's totally fine.

[@HealthHackers]

Hi Jessica! I just shook mine after reading your comment... there’s a tiny rattle but it’s hardly noticeable. Is yours a significant rattling sound? Was it like that when it arrived?

[@thisisaname4661]

@@HealthHackers It's definitely a noticeable rattle with mine. I was thinking maybe it got thrown around or dropped during shipping. Supposedly they don't cover the cost of damage if that happens.

[@HealthHackers]

I see what you mean. Yes, maybe it happened in transit. 🥴 How are you finding using the laser and the results on your skin?

[@thisisaname4661]

@@HealthHackers Yeah that seems kind of ridiculous for the price you pay. It seems to be working so far. I'm just using it for acne and rosacea. I've got a few fine lines but it would probably take a while to see any results there.

[@HealthHackers]

That’s good you’ve found something that helps with your acne and rosacea. I was using the Lyma on sore neck muscles today and they feel much better now. It could have been a total coincidence and nothing to do with the laser but I’m happy with it 🤷‍♀️😊

[@Roddis]

What on earth is going on in the picture frame behind the "company founder's" wall?

[@HealthHackers]

I didn’t notice it until I edited the episode 🙊

[@cozmo7619]

It seems that Gemma may be too youthful to fairly assess how well or not this laser works. Hey Gemma do you have a healthhacker or relative say 55+ that might be able to do a trial on it?

[@HealthHackers]

Haha. All my 55+ relatives live in the UK. I’m in California. But thanks for the compliment 😊

[@cozmo7619]

@@HealthHackers Hi Gemma, You cant possibly be intimating that you are over 55 surely? Even if you were you cant owe your gorgeousness to the Lyma laser as you only just started using it. Didnt you have a baby recently? I'm confused... I;m serious about the trialing of this on someone my age though as I am very interested but its so expensive.

[@MoniaFORSETE]

Thank you for keeping us up to date with the lates gadgets. Initially I found it very appealing that the company did not follow up on your initial request to review - hence they do not need the publicity - hence the product speaks for itself. However, I didn’t find Lucy credible in the interview. Your point about PH-levels was brushed off in a not so elegant manner. Furthermore, your point regarding blue light seems valid - and you were (apparently) given an incorrect answer. It does seem like the tec. is valid - but at this stage I would not dive in. Perhaps if I had a scar or was bothers by other conditions. But for purely anti ageing purpose I’m not considering the device. It must honestly take you ages to use?

[@HealthHackers]

Hi Monia, it’s so great to read your comments on this. You’ve clearly watched the entire video, and that makes me happy because I put a lot of hours into making each of my videos!😊 To your point about the length of time I spend using the laser, you’re right, it can take a while. In order to cover my face and neck for 15 mins per area, I can easily end up spending nearly two hours on it. Thank you for watching.🙏

[@elisirmask1991]

You can use our mask for skin treatment!!! :)))

[@jaquelinem.3396]

I don’t think the science behind it is convincing as there is not a single publication on any research website or journal to be found. I am a German doctor and could not find any traces of Lyma in the German dermatology field either. To me, it’s a big scam.

[@HealthHackers]

@@elisirmask1991 Tell me more! Can I review it on this channel?

[@AndreeChristina1]

I just received the LYMA laser - it has a RED light instead of BLUE - I am wondering about that

[@HealthHackers]

Huh? Not heard of that before. Interested to hear what LYMA say.

[@HealthHackers]

I just had an email from a viewer explaining the red instead of blue light! See this link: lyma.life/journal/introducing-lymas-new-colour-variant-the-red-laser/

[@HealthHackers]

Now I have questions about why, and what the FDA's view on LYMA's blue light was.

[@AndreeChristina1]

I got the answer from LYMA - red or blue - all good either one

[@HealthHackers]

@@AndreeChristina1 Let us know how you get on with it over the coming weeks/months!

[@tracymarper9226]

Great video, but sadly I've been using it for 8 months now and I've not had any positive results whatsoever. A massive waste of money and time for me !

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks for watching Tracy!

[@dotowers1958]

Lyma, since this is the only way I can contact you. Could you please have Concierge check my order. The products were not included. I would like to have this corrected. Thank you. Dorothy Watson

[@vuslatusta2170]

Must i take the Spray and Creme doesnt it work with out That it very exvensive 2400 Euro and then the Produkts cost every Month abbaut 140 Euro ist very extensive 🤔

[@vuslatusta2170]

I mean expensive

[@HealthHackers]

I personally don’t use the spray or serum.

[@sanazs8365]

I honesty think that your skin got better in the second pictures but it could also be the lighting like ur skin is much. more brighter than before but again it could be the lighting

[@ahlus-sunna-wal-jamma6793]

I don't understand English. Is this Lyma Laser really works?

[@alexanderwoodley]

Nope.

[@a3yeung]

It think i would be more interested in this if its a mask that can be attached to my face like omnilux... I simply dont have the time and patient to run it around my face for 15 min straight

[@HealthHackers]

Tell me about it. Since having a baby it’s become even harder to find time to hold it in one hand for a decent amount of coverage.

[@Pange3]

Why can’t you just order when needed? Subscription is a no go for me!

[@waterwater5495]

Some worry It costs usd2500, if useless, then lost and no refund?

[@TheDegeus]

I cannot see what the laser could improve. so the interview is great but maybe another person could try out the laser.

[@HealthHackers]

Well thank you. 😊 I shall take that as a compliment!

[@lovesarita]

Wish it did jawlines - apparently you need a special ultrasound for that! Maybe it's time to just accept the aging process...

[@HealthHackers]

Yep. We have no choice but to accept it eventually!

[@EnforcedPolicy]

How is that laser better than sunlight?

[@HealthHackers]

When was sunlight ever touted as an anti-wrinkle skincare solution? 😊

[@belgravedave]

Interesting, but for me nothing comes close to using Tretinoin, but obviously build up gradually!

[@HealthHackers]

Ooh yes! I’m a fan of tretinoin too. What brand do you like to use?

[@elisirmask1991]

You can use our mask for skin treatment.

[@Letthesoulshine717]

what is that a cream?

[@aracelikopiloff1791]

You are very pretty. I think for a few thousand dollars I’d rather get treatments at a spa that way as new technology emerges I can keep changing as well not feel obligated to a gadget bc it was over priced.

[@HealthHackers]

I’ve actually not come across much in the way of new technology at spas. Anything you’d recommend?

[@Pange3]

I don’t see how any spray or serum can put oxygen into your skin…

[@Ck-yb2cl]

What do you think after one year?!

[@HealthHackers]

Hi! Here’s a link to an article about my skincare in which I've included my current thoughts on the LYMA laser: 👉 healthhackers.org/article-list/my-skin-products

[@Ck-yb2cl]

@@HealthHackers ❤️

[@Pange3]

Now it comes out….. subscriptions

[@LaBambaCL]

exposure and color are the two biggest factors of a photo impression 25:54 these do not match well to see much.

[@AmeliaConway]

I literally see no difference in the results. I feel like this is just another beauty scam, and they are bluffing with the big price tag.

[@kristinrawlings3436]

One concern (major one) is that it uses blue led light (470 nm blue led). The same led light that we buy filters for our technology for. That ultimately in the long run may end up destroying healthy cells. Am I the only person concerned about this?

[@HealthHackers]

Hi Kristin, thanks for your comment. If you watch at 12:41, you can hear me ask Lucy about blue light. Then at 26:53 you can hear my thoughts on it with some outside input from another expert. Best wishes!

[@kristinrawlings3436]

@@HealthHackers thx!! Hadn't gotten that far!!

[@kerryhall7291]

For that price tag one should expect better results if not faster. It just sounds like an expensive investment for little return. For that money I can have a better more effective instant treatment at a dermatologist's office v

[@sergioantonio2510]

For that much money you can several expensive laser treatments (like Halo) that take maybe 30 minutes and give you way better results. Or you can spend $3k on this and have to use it EVERY day and I doubt it even works. Just being realistic.

[@googleuser2426]

Although you have a beautiful face😊, the after looks worse than before. For 2499, I would expect SO MUCH MORE.

[@HealthHackers]

Thanks for the compliment anyway :)

[@feeltheforce10]

The price tag is enough to age you.Some poor results and testimonies - for the price it should not fail anybody but it seems to be all hype.Im out.

[@HealthHackers]

🤣

[@isking1715]

I love how the Lyma lady has had a ton of botox. I'd rather have the restorative benefits of a decent holiday with my 2k.

[@megs6861]

Does the laser have both red and blue light? I’m having difficulty finding the difference between the two other than the US only can get the red to them. Any awareness on this?

[@HealthHackers]

This might help: lyma.life/journal/introducing-lymas-new-colour-variant-the-red-laser/

[@kristinrawlings3436]

Maybe because the blue light can be problematic in the long run? I'm confused too. Is the US red now pulling from the red nm (600 +on the light spectrum)? In which case I'd be willing to try it. Does anyone know?

[@harryturnbull4781]

Who is this beauty?

[@allovertheshopmum]

The credible source mentioned as "peer review literature" -- was Dr Graeme Glass --- looking further into it, i see hes working for LYMA.. so thats a bit shady.

[@lovesarita]

'What do you think of the results?' I think it's useless looking at wrinkle-free young skin for a before and after test. Interesting interview though.

[@HealthHackers]

Thank you for this compliment 😜

[@turbotiger5998]

I very much doubt that it does anything, apart from leaving a dent in your bank balance. Lasers need to be more powerful to actually do anything of significance to skin.

[@GymRobert]

No differences b and a