Working On The Incredible Face Mechanism Of A Williams Bride Of Pinbot Pinball Machine 2

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@LordBadenRulez
@LordBadenRulez 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite pins. Love the sound and music. Bride: "I can speak" Pinbot: "oh NO!" Bride: "ha ha ha" Classic :)
@adamdavies163
@adamdavies163 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how much fun you can have with a bunch of lightbulbs, switches, motors and some solenoids. A great hobby to have and get paid for :-)
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Not so much. You'd think so but there are major drawbacks! Thanks for watching Adam!
@daakrolb
@daakrolb 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. You’re doing gods work man. We gotta keep these treasures running and preserved!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
We're trying :)
@jcfra420
@jcfra420 2 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite pinball machine. When I was looking to buy one, I looked everywhere for it, could not find it. I fell in love with it when I moved to TN, was in a hotel for 2 weeks and played this daily at the truck stop next door to hotel. Have never seen another one since then.
@djfritz2001
@djfritz2001 2 жыл бұрын
The original PinBot blew my mind as a kid. After dumping many quaters into it I was able to lock the two balls for its eyes, and they lit up and the machine said 'BEHOLD! I CAN SEE!'.... Still gives me goosebumps :)
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, DJFritz2001!
@olepigeon
@olepigeon 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely one of my favorite pins. Too bad the game got confused, but I suggest everyone watch the whole metamorphosis sequence. It makes me giddy with excitement every time. The light show, the sounds, the music ... gets your adrenaline going. :D
@Crowfighting
@Crowfighting 2 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these machines many years ago, and got it out of storage earlier this year where it had been mothballed for a couple of years. It greeted me by exploding a tantalum capacitor on the sound board and shooting shards of resin across the garage! Between that and a dying display (luckily nothing more serious than a dead transistor), I had a few days of fun getting it running again. Luckily, the rotating head mechanism was still working perfectly - I really don’t fancy trying to fix that!
@ZardoztheWizard
@ZardoztheWizard 2 жыл бұрын
"Metropolis" theme on a pinball machine... very cool!! Thank you for this series!!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching ZardoztheWizard, we appreciate it!
@noobtuber10
@noobtuber10 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite pinball machine, Ive spent countless hours on this board
@williebruga9761
@williebruga9761 Жыл бұрын
I just purchased this machine not long ago. Thank you I am having issues with the head also. Keep doing this amazing work!!!!
@Bartnl1985
@Bartnl1985 2 жыл бұрын
This is realy a blast from past, all hours i played this pin-ball machine when i was a kid (around 8-12years old) . Till it got swaped out for Tales from the Crypt. Pure nostalgia🤩
@evilash570
@evilash570 2 жыл бұрын
Man I repaired a Pinbot, and it was a total nightmare to sort out, but I got it eventually thanks to a great video by you guys, and it is a fantastic game. Bride of Pinbot looks so awesome, but also a pain to repair, thanks for showing us how its done!!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching evilash570 we appreciate it as always!
@laughtrack2329
@laughtrack2329 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think the folks commenting about the motor being noisy realize that all of those kinds of pinball motors are noisy, and it doesnt really matter once the glass is on it. Regardless, great video.
@JDfromWitness
@JDfromWitness 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. As a pinball / jukebox mechanic for many years (retired), it is always nice to see these machines being restored. Still do a few pins from time to time (Have a Williams Whitewater out there now), but mainly Jukeboxes amps now.
@roryvonbrutt7302
@roryvonbrutt7302 2 жыл бұрын
"Head" area in the book, and then you chuckled❕you are one sick man‼️®™️ 👏👏lol
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
And I'm gonna be one until I'm a dead one
@roryvonbrutt7302
@roryvonbrutt7302 2 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade 🔥🔥🔥
@hazybasement7101
@hazybasement7101 2 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure watching the diagnostic process, I remember playing this in the bowling alley many many years ago! Thanks for sharing!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
This may have been the exact same machine you played, Hazy Basement... did you scratch your initials on it anywhere I can check : ) ?
@hazybasement7101
@hazybasement7101 2 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Unfortunately no, but how wild would that be!
@gauchomaquinista5344
@gauchomaquinista5344 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Joes !!!
@theTemplar08
@theTemplar08 10 ай бұрын
I love this machine
@hinderikusbos1370
@hinderikusbos1370 2 жыл бұрын
Wondefull machine i play it verry often . Open het eyes , open her mouth let her see you and let her sing , good music to
@YeeModz
@YeeModz 2 жыл бұрын
I played this so often as a kid on a german island called spiekerooge the best thing ever
@David-yh5po
@David-yh5po 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this video with us.
@Mtaalas
@Mtaalas 2 жыл бұрын
Just love that FM-synthesis sound.... my childhood!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty great!
@redwizard0004
@redwizard0004 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Bride of Pinbot. I have one of those. One of my all time favorite machines.
@danmerillat
@danmerillat 2 жыл бұрын
incredible pin, but that face looks like a nightmare to maintain. definitely worth it!
@kageofkonoha
@kageofkonoha 2 жыл бұрын
Had this at my bowling alley when I was a kid. I played the crap out of this game... I miss it. Great Job on the face repair.
@Arrowed_Sparrow
@Arrowed_Sparrow 8 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this table... Also, was there a frickin Molex to SATA cable in that bag lol.
@frankgagliano9677
@frankgagliano9677 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Ronnie Glad you figured out that switch problem. Love the Bride great playing game a lot of fun. Can not wait for the next video Thanks for filming. Always amazed how you can film and work at the same time.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Frank, we appreciate you hanging out with us as always!
@anthonydenn4345
@anthonydenn4345 2 жыл бұрын
That's an ambitious concept for a pinball machine. Turning a robot into a woman. But the realization of the idea is amazing. What a cool pin. That was a familiar theme back in the 80's movies. Things turning into woman!
@carloslewis8448
@carloslewis8448 4 ай бұрын
The people who designed this machine were geniuses. These machines make me wish that I would have chosen the pinball occupation
@paulclarke7571
@paulclarke7571 2 жыл бұрын
15:21 "Boy it homed the hell out of the head." Maybe the funniest thing I have ever heard you say Ron. Thanks for all you do for all of us pin enthusiast.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul, we appreciate you watching, i'm glad somebody likes my sense of humor!
@otaking3582
@otaking3582 2 жыл бұрын
For a pinball machine not based on an established IP, I'll admit that the face-turning is a pretty cool gimmick.
@LawmanIL
@LawmanIL 2 жыл бұрын
what does the IP have to do with it?
@otaking3582
@otaking3582 2 жыл бұрын
@@LawmanIL When's the last time you saw an interesting pinball table that wasn't based on an existing franchise? Hell, the best-selling pinball machine of all time is The Addams Family
@LawmanIL
@LawmanIL 2 жыл бұрын
@@otaking3582 There are plenty!
@otaking3582
@otaking3582 2 жыл бұрын
@@LawmanIL Such as?
@DavidWilliams-rn6uq
@DavidWilliams-rn6uq 2 жыл бұрын
We’ll, there’s Cyclone, Whirlwind, Pinbot (the original, not his bride), FunHouse, Fish Tales (rubber fish!!! LOL), High Speed, and of course FirePower. Huh. You’d think I’m from the 80’s or something…
@lashermytube
@lashermytube 2 жыл бұрын
So cool! I've never seen a pinball repair vid. this was recomended because I've been looking up retro games. Nice job
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Lasher :)
@Bender_Rodriguez
@Bender_Rodriguez 2 жыл бұрын
I played a lot of this pinball machine and it was the best of that era!
@TheKurtsPlaceChannel
@TheKurtsPlaceChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kurt, i'm glad you enjoyed it!
@zaniyawonlord
@zaniyawonlord 2 жыл бұрын
playd this when i was a kid. :)
@chrisharper7956
@chrisharper7956 2 жыл бұрын
Always feels good to get a little head work done...😎
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
You said it not me youtube Algo :)
@porckypizgus
@porckypizgus 2 жыл бұрын
This is it ! You my Hero ! Polish people thank You. We love Pinbot Bride & T2 Judgement Day !
@josephambrose2852
@josephambrose2852 Жыл бұрын
Tho I don't give a flying squat about this stuff, I admire your dedication 👍
@olmosbananas
@olmosbananas 2 жыл бұрын
this brought back memories. we used to own a LotR pinball machine when i was a kid. sadly around 2008, recession hit and we had to sell it. We ended up making money on it, since we had bought a floor/demo unit from Sharper Image. and it went up in value. we ended up selling it to a pinball fanatic that would fix all these things that we didn't know where bad with the machine. i would've loved to have it now and fix it myself now that i'm way more knowledgeable with electronics.
@purplevampireanime
@purplevampireanime 2 жыл бұрын
i thought this was a willam Belli themed pinball machine xD
@pin-monkeypinball3548
@pin-monkeypinball3548 2 жыл бұрын
So she really did come to life and show how quickly the many personalities of the same woman change and you have no control over it 🤣
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha pretty much! It must be working correctly!
@pin-monkeypinball3548
@pin-monkeypinball3548 2 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade 😂😂. Maybe the game will work if you apologize to it for something it did to you.
@markjackson1444
@markjackson1444 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing your formidable skills with us all. Looking forward to seeing this pinnie come back to life.
@K1TT3NM1TT3N5
@K1TT3NM1TT3N5 2 жыл бұрын
Woah, just found your channel and I got a lot of watching to do. Can’t wait. Love the intricacy of these machines.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found us :)
@BalancedSpirit79
@BalancedSpirit79 2 жыл бұрын
Nice repair, man. Also, you picking up the balls and putting them where you wanted was very satisfying to watch. I'm sure most pinball players sometimes wish they could do that. :)
@freefall2003
@freefall2003 2 жыл бұрын
One of the pinball games I love. Hope it last for 100 years
@AdolphisMalomar
@AdolphisMalomar 2 жыл бұрын
Man they had this at the bowling alley when I was in Junior High. I put so many quarters in that machine!
@StoneUSA
@StoneUSA 2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome game, never seen it before.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Kevin!
@fletcherchambers7175
@fletcherchambers7175 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best vids yet. Super interesting.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fletcher, that's very kind of you to say.
@tay_rips
@tay_rips 2 жыл бұрын
This is great. I have this machine; in the process of replacing all the bulbs/flashers, and didnt know how to get to the face bulbs (and now I know you have to take off the cover and face plate! Thanks!
@whizzer9295
@whizzer9295 2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting video, thanks for sharing. I was wanting more after it ended.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Whizzer, glad you enjoyed it!
@TurnFullCircle
@TurnFullCircle 2 жыл бұрын
Bloody awesome….what a machine…love it!…cheers
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
it's pretty awesome, thanks for watching Chris!
@albertoalbertoni9529
@albertoalbertoni9529 2 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous this pinball!!!
@YoutubeSupportServices
@YoutubeSupportServices 2 жыл бұрын
OH MY...Sooooooooo many hours on that dam machine. And Adams Family & Twilight-Zone... The only three that matter. SO JEALOUS!
@ps2reed
@ps2reed 2 жыл бұрын
That was pretty sick man, thank you.
@GameTechRefuge
@GameTechRefuge 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff. That machine has allot going on. Very cool.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty cool, thank you for watching Game Tech Refuge!
@danijelcar5184
@danijelcar5184 2 жыл бұрын
Great work on that head assy😎👍
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Danijel, I did it all wrong though, just read below, LOL
@justimagine2403
@justimagine2403 9 ай бұрын
Honestly! This main toy is far more complex than even the Ringmaster on Volatire. So cool but it does seem to be a rather risque game after I was shown the layout.
@mrnotnomis
@mrnotnomis 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Sterns Hot Hand (well, my wife does), and this inspires me to do some work on it. The big paddle in the middle won't spin and it needs all the rubber replaced - and maybe a few light bulbs.
@manlymcstud8588
@manlymcstud8588 2 жыл бұрын
very cool, looks like a fun machine to play and i know it's in the right hands.
@courier11sec
@courier11sec 2 жыл бұрын
Those microswitches are like Legos. Should be really easy to find and not expensive at all. They are in all kinds of gizmos from industrial machines to hot rod parts. I would love this kind of work. Thanks for sharing the job. (Only halfway through the video, so if you mention later that you found it my apologies.)
@noneed4me2n7
@noneed4me2n7 2 жыл бұрын
Big big DMD 90s to early 2000s tables fan as my wife worked at a “golf&stuff” in SoCal that used to house a pseudo castle full of all the classic tables from Williams Stern you name it it was probably their at one time. I like this one of the 80s, better than funhouse, which is my other favorite table outside Elvira’s older table based on the same setup. We worked near each other and on lunch or when I was off I’d go play on the pinball tables for free a lot.
@simondempsey1
@simondempsey1 2 жыл бұрын
Good video and well worked out Ron. Always thought it was a bit of a weird machine!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Well Python made it, all his were weird :)
@levelmeans-flat734
@levelmeans-flat734 2 жыл бұрын
Super cool! You fix them fast. Awesome work 👏 👌
@scottgm321
@scottgm321 2 жыл бұрын
The more I play pinball, the more I learn how much maintenance they require. It seems like the switches in the eyes would fall off more frequently like the right one did, since they are off to the side and the ball would be pushing them off to the side. I wonder if you can replace the guides on the first face since they are so yellowed and stand out. Thanks for an awesome video.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
It'll just have to keep that flaw, they don't make new ones. Thanks for watching Scott!
@VegasCyclingFreak
@VegasCyclingFreak 2 жыл бұрын
That is a really cool one. That spinning head thing is pretty wild.
@morphoice
@morphoice 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite pinball. Owned this one for years and sold it 2018
@C0ldIron
@C0ldIron 2 жыл бұрын
I played this on the the pinball arcade simulator I don't know how manly times. Always found the changing faces to be a great gimmick.
@wackyworldofwindios3476
@wackyworldofwindios3476 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning. Hope you had a great Holiday.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning Windios!
@scoosie5967
@scoosie5967 2 жыл бұрын
Great work so far, Ron.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Scoosie!
@SirBoycie
@SirBoycie 2 жыл бұрын
Around '92 it seemed that every...ahem...herbal shop in the Netherlands had a Bride of Pinbot. The Metamorphosis part was awesome, and then hitting the Big Wheel for the Billionaires Club...
@wolfenstein722
@wolfenstein722 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work, it’s amazing how they function...
@laboratorioassembler
@laboratorioassembler 2 жыл бұрын
Wow so great
@SuperComplexman
@SuperComplexman 2 жыл бұрын
when i was a kid i played the hell out of this at the arcade
@josephmcafee4560
@josephmcafee4560 Жыл бұрын
Ok I finally bought one of these machines. I have a question about the general game play when starting a game. Does the face start out at the single mouth hole face? Mine seems to be random. Love watching your vids!!!!!!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Жыл бұрын
Yes it should always be on the mouth face... you may need to do the home thing like we did in this video in the test mode. You might have the home switch messed up on yours...
@Pholiage
@Pholiage 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome and creepy. Always loved the music and sounds coming from pinball machines. Shame they take so much space and are ridiculusly expensive
@mushroomsamba82
@mushroomsamba82 2 жыл бұрын
This is a super fun table but it looks like an absolute nightmare to work with.
@CrashHeadroom
@CrashHeadroom 2 жыл бұрын
God I miss those 90s synth samples ^^ Nice work dude.
@NoxMessor
@NoxMessor 2 жыл бұрын
Now I See You!!!
@SamA-bi4ly
@SamA-bi4ly 2 жыл бұрын
I would guess if the head motor cam had been replaced, the unit with the faces may have been put back on the shaft in the wrong position
@rmx4087
@rmx4087 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea Pin•Bot had a "sequel".
@rich1051414
@rich1051414 2 жыл бұрын
On DC, it is usually the safest bet to assume the black wire is ground. 75% of the time, you are right every time.
@ronnyverminck2741
@ronnyverminck2741 6 ай бұрын
I have same machine that i have aquired shortly. The mainboard was bad due to batterys that has leaked on the board. Board is repaired but the head does not spin, or sometimes once inn a while. Thanks for this video, i can look further into this. Also, is it normal when you shoot the ramp for the head, it goes further and ends out at the poppers?
@rectify2003
@rectify2003 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Blow up Doll
@Nighthawke70
@Nighthawke70 2 жыл бұрын
On the head calibration, they have a built-in option according to the service manual. (IPDB has a copy) 1-32, Automatic head calibration. You were doing it the hard way using T.16, the manual calibration.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
o.k. I'll try harder
@hardlucknate6769
@hardlucknate6769 2 жыл бұрын
This looks like a cool pinball machine but I'm afraid of it at the same time
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
It has a pretty amazing look! Super fun to play too....
@hardlucknate6769
@hardlucknate6769 2 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade the rotating faces part kind of scares me
@ryanpearson9534
@ryanpearson9534 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the FaceTime
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
You. You're clever you.
@GHILLIESARCADEANDMORE
@GHILLIESARCADEANDMORE 2 жыл бұрын
Cool
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Ghillie!
@cyberprompt
@cyberprompt 2 жыл бұрын
if Star Trek had taught us nothing else, it's REVERSE THE POLARITY. you'll be fine.
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 2 жыл бұрын
Is there normally supposed to be two of these machines connected together.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
No I don't think you could connect this particular title together. Thank you for watching David!
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 2 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade Just wondering is this Pinball table only available in North America or the World over if so I might have a look out for her at the only arcade left in Portrush Northern Ireland.
@kevingray8616
@kevingray8616 2 жыл бұрын
To repair the plastic nub, try the super glue and baking soda trick.
@1959blantz
@1959blantz 2 жыл бұрын
What is the arcade game in the corner of your store near the window? I can't quite make out the title, but looks like it says Dream Boat?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that one's called Dream Boat, it's a coin pusher.
@andyvitz
@andyvitz 2 жыл бұрын
The switch looks like it's screws if you loosen it up and just push it forward and then retighten miss it that's what would work
@javaguru7141
@javaguru7141 2 жыл бұрын
Those pinballs look a bit rough. Won't using those damage the playfield?
@QNFee
@QNFee 2 жыл бұрын
awesome , you are one of my favorite channels and i only follow like 5 tops. btw that pinbot face looks a bit like a blow up dolls face lmao greetings from holland
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's the look he was going for :) Thanks for watching in Holland! My favorite band's the beach boys and they recorded one of their albums over there, so we all have fond thoughts of Holland :)
@QNFee
@QNFee 2 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade right and i believe the album was called holland lol. they are so lucky not to life in this crap country lmao thanks bro and i am looking forward to your next video greetings and good night (1:00am here) .
@QNFee
@QNFee 2 жыл бұрын
@@LyonsArcade lol you think this guy want to sell the pinbot machine to me lmao i want one tooooo
@Hollyweirdification
@Hollyweirdification Ай бұрын
My head on my BOP cycles and works fine the first time around. However, if I lose a ball during multiball the face will reset to default like it should. Next time I hit a ball in her mouth it will say partial optical link and she will say I can speak, but it locks that ball and shoots another ball out into the shooter lane as if I'm on her eye's when in fact I'm still on the mouth mode.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade Ай бұрын
Might be a bad diode on the switches for her eyes, or it may be that switch we looked at on here isn't properly adjusted. I'd go into switch test and make sure they all work every time you hit them, it may be registering that you're hitting the mouth and the eyes at the same time. Not sure why it would do it after the first play but if it does it consistently it may be a rom issue but not likely.
@miltongerardotorresramirez837
@miltongerardotorresramirez837 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Ron I love your videos, super nice job! Greetings from Monterrey México. I have a question. How could I buy something from Amazon trough this link? I click the link then what goes next to make the store appear in my finder? Or how the store or the stores are clasified in Amazon? Sorry man I´m really an old school guy.
@DjResR
@DjResR 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes when the servo motor has low gear ratio you can force it to move by hand, but you have to be really careful doing it._
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching DjResR!
@timhinchcliffe5372
@timhinchcliffe5372 2 жыл бұрын
Even robot women are difficult.
@Slackmoe
@Slackmoe 2 жыл бұрын
I fixed a bunch of bad traces on the MPU board on a Bride of Pinbot 8 yrs ago.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool :) It's fun watching them come back to life!
@Slackmoe
@Slackmoe 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is.
@jayytee8062
@jayytee8062 2 жыл бұрын
I'm doing that right now....... Man, battery damage really sucks. Even worse is when you fumble your way through it, like me.
@Slackmoe
@Slackmoe 2 жыл бұрын
Repairing battery damage sucks. I am in the middle of a Creature From the Black Lagoon teardown.
@SirSquash
@SirSquash 2 жыл бұрын
*SEGA SUPER GT* was literally my favorite game at "Alladin's Castle" way back in the '90s. i would put in 50c and win the races allowing you to keep playing, getting like 30 min of play out of 50c until some mo ron employee decided it should be 50c a race whether you win or lose. well they lost (a ton of money) because i never went back after that.
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