M-346 Master jet trainer and light attack aircraft | Why is it so successful?

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[@jacobzimmermann59]

I seriously wonder why is there that stereotype about Italian products having a lousy build quality and substandard engineering. In reality, in many areas, aviation being one of them, the Italian industry is top notch.

[@mikelbrenn111]

Italians make good luxury but not known for top class engineering and reliability like Japan and Germany.

[@jacobzimmermann59]

@@mikelbrenn111 But the funny thing is that despite their reputation, in reality Fiat cars have often been pretty reliable (certainly more than mighty German VW group nowadays...) and their aerospace engineering is world class, when you look at the military aircraft Italy has designed or contributed to. Now they're even developing a 6th gen fighter together with the UK and Japan.

[@luigifranceschi2350]

The funniest thing is that the main suppliers of mechanical parts for German cars are Italian companies and those cars are mostly assembled outside of Germany with other parts made there.

[@TheKing-xp7lq]

Truth is Italy sources many components across Europe from many vendors , some of these companies are affiliated with Chinese and they source from china. Italian lobby is the one which is bringing bad names , they actively engage with military leaders , fund their trips and kick backs are the reason. Italians are master engineers and technicians , even the usa is sourcing f35 parts and acknowledged some inconsistencies in the supply chain , Chinese are notorious for supplying Ill equipment once in a while

[@jacobzimmermann59]

@@valerianocuomo996 Well those are actually not good examples...

[@wiktorberski9272]

Around 2013 in Poland was a competition for a new advanced jest trainer. Among others, Korean T50 (my favorite) and M346 were considered. Won M346, and currently as Bielik replaced TS-11 Iskra. But this year MoD announced a purchase of Korean FA-50 (a stepbrother of T50), and finalized it. So now we have two types instead of one. Very smart indeed.

[@Leptospirosi]

Costs of flying and manteinance are important factors, as flighter rated engines, especially when you don't have equivalent engines already in service, can easily dent the budget in a few years to the point of unsustainability. When you cannot afford to make your pilots fly enough, because of budget constraints you know you F* Up. Another factor is "Training capabilities", not an easy task for countries like Poland which keep changing first line fighters through upgrades, loans, new purchases and changes of doctrine. Good luck throwing a green pilot inside an F50 ad let it fly. The M346 can easily do that, as it's a comprehensive training system that can simulate any fighter behaviour through a software update in a few hours. The plane will behave in flight exactly as a Mig 29, an F18, a Mirage2K, a Typhoon, a Rafale, an F16, or whatever you want. The F50 cannot, to the same extent, as it was developed as a light support for the main Korean fighter line and only secondarily as an advanced Trainer. This is why it was bought mainly as a budget fighter from costumers around the world, and with training as a secondary role. It is closer to an AMX, or a T38/F5A, then to a proper advanced trainer: supersonic flight is rather pointless to train in modern jets anyway, as you can do it in any twin seats fighter, when needed.

[@ionpopescu3969]

m346 offered local production; it was an investment in local aircraft industry

[@wiktorberski9272]

@@ionpopescu3969 Poland ordered only 16 aircraft (in two batches), so no production was moved to Poland. The Air Force was not pleased with this aircraft: there was a problem with the software (it has to be updated in order to allow the use of some armament). Also, the level of readiness was below expectations. And, probably for these reasons, AF ordered FA50 unfortunately without a tender procedure.

[@Crimerenegade]

The F/A-50 was purchased by Polish Airforce not for training of new pilots, but to replace acient Su-22M3 and M4's in ground attack roles/air policing. Also M346 had a lot of issues in Polish service (issues with electronics, problems with electronic systems that were supposed to simulate weapons, and also very low readiness level). Also Leonardo corporation was entangled in some murky business/ bribery in Poland in regards to other purchases made by Polish MoD...

[@trotamarmorata2673]

@@wiktorberski9272 No guy!!! You only dont'likes italians,because You dont'know nothing on culture airplanes!!!

[@hansericsson7058]

Its a beautyful little fighter.

[@KapiteinKrentebol]

Also for high intensity conflicts having these kind of planes is a benefit as it frees the higher tier planes for doing the more important stuff.

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

It was an informative and wonderful introduction video about M-346 master jet training supersonic aircraft's...video clearly explained all its characteristics and also its several versions ..also video labeled on its historical creation and upgrade steps efficiently...thank you respectful 🙏 ( weapon detective) channel for sharing this remarkable video

[@farrazaulia2917]

Great video man

[@Sir_Godz]

the type of platform that every military should be fielding for 99.9999999 % of use

[@ronjon7942]

That’s not a bad point to make.

[@bgshin2879]

Ireland Parliament recommended FA50 Block20 not M346…. That is factually incorrect in the video. They considered Jas39NG, M346A and FA50 Block20 and cost analysis showed FA50 would fulfil 90% of mission requirement at 50-60% cost of Jas39. M346 was 80% of requirement and 80% of Jas39 cost coming the last spot overall.

[@lazios]

I read who many fanboys make comparison between the FA version of M-346 and the FA-50, but despite similarities (both derive from advanced training aircraft) the strengths of the two are different, things are much more complex than "one it's supersonics, the other transonic" (reading the comments it seems to read some football-fans); it all depends on what type of air force the country has and its intended use. There are points in one direction (ergonomics, thrust etc) and points in another (avionics system, upgradeability etc); again, everything depends on the needs of that particular air force (of course, and by POLITICS, this applies to any weapon/aircraft/ship etc).

[@neutronalchemist3241]

One is a trainer, and it's main goal is to provide to pilots (actual or future) of more capable and expensive machines realistic combat training for cheap. It also has an attack version, but that was not it's main goal. The other is a mixed light fighter-trainer. It's better as a combat aircraft, but more expensive to operate, and less capable as a trainer. "big" air forces prefer to have dedicated trainers, like the M-346, to reduce the operative costs of the first-line fighters they already have. "smaller" air forces prefer to have mixed light fighter-trainers, because that enhances the number of machines they have that can actually fight.

[@michaelogden5958]

Looks like a dandy little jet!

[@jaws666]

Currently building a model of this.i hope that Ireland does buy them...they would be perfect for our Air Corps.

[@Crimerenegade]

In Polish service on the beginning the M346 did not have good opinion. Yes on the start of the service Pilots were thrilled to finally get a modern Jet trainer, as opposed to 1960 vintage TS-11's... But later multiple issues with electronics had surfaced. there were also problems with the electronic systems designed to simulate weapons. Also the readiness level was very low... I took couple of years for Leonardo to fix those issues....

[@gansior4744]

Pretty standard for New platforms. Not every kinks can be ironed out in the lab

[@ezioauditore1522]

Did your cousin tell you? Now you could start the correspondence course to become 007.

[@Crimerenegade]

@@ezioauditore1522 Multiple articles about that in military oriented media in Poland

[@vitocasaldi6938]

I think isn’t true I know very good this platform and I assure it’s a quality made

[@Crimerenegade]

@@vitocasaldi6938 one more time: multiple articles in professional militarny media in Poland regarding those issues. So Yeah... It is true...

[@fgtrhwu2]

I guess the Russians wanted a more combat focused trainer that can also be used as a light combat jet during the initial part of the partnership but Italy just wanted a trainer. I do wonder why the FA variant of the M346 choose to give up 2 hardpoints compared to the Yak-130 since they also wanted a more combat focused variant this time. Recently M346 FA lost to the FA-50 when it came to the tender for Light Combat Aircraft/Trainer for the Malaysian Air Force

[@Leptospirosi]

With the M346 Master you are not "just" buying an "advanced trainer", as the Yak 130, but an integrated "training system", where flight simulators and advanced softwares come integrated in the package. If you just need a low cost trainer, the M345 will easily do that. It is not, like the F50, a "Poor Man's Fighter" (not derogatory, here), intended to supplement a limited number of main line fighters in low intensity conflict. Unlike the Yak, It Is a higly sophsticated Flying computer, which makes the platform whatever you want it to be, like the "Zelig" of airplanes. You buy an M346 because you have a lot of main line fighters, often several types, which need pilots to be trained specifically. There is a reason why so many first world nations are sending their pilots to the "International Flight Training School" in Sardinia. Germany, Qatar, Japan, among others, prefer to train their pilots abroad. The M346 can simulate, by software, the flight behaviour of amy different types of advanced jet, including weapons systems and Emergency procedures, so that pilots can train through flight simulation on land and in the air before shifting to the real fighter they are trained to fly. The M346 Is very safe, with twin, low consumption engines, while remaining a very nimble and powerfull trainer, which does not dent a military budget, when It comes to cost per flight hour and service.

[@valerianocuomo996]

Eurofighters build from LEONARDO GROUP, 65% ,

[@박희수-t8d]

한국인인 저로서는 T-50 계열기가 더 팔리면 좋겠지만 아음속기가 범용성은 더 높다고 생각합니다, 지구에 고성능의 초음속 주력전투기들이 필요가 없을 때가 최상이겠죠. 아무튼 아름다운 항공기입니다, 앞으로도 팔릴만한 국가들이 많이 남았다고 저도 동의하구요.

[@Gottfried_Frickenberger]

I think you could use both though just one would save costs I.e, the M-346 as a trainer jet and the FA-50 as a light fighter

[@bo2web]

Looks cool. 👏 bravo ! Nice plane generally fly well. Choosen by italian air force patroll «Frecce Tricolori».

[@pablopeter3564]

What about the M-346 prive tag ?

[@chuckcawthon3370]

Fascinating Aircraft

[@parthibanilango5568]

Can you make a video on the astra missiles pf india, i would like to know if they are actually decent or not

[@amoeba8460]

Please make a video on yak 130❤.

[@jean-martinvonsiebenthal2836]

On the topic of major countries like France not longer making competing jet trainer, one should take into account that like a number of other countries they have opted for the turboprop Pilatus PC-21 advanced trainer that enables direct transition to fightet jet at even lower operating costs.

[@charlesdorval394]

Looks so fun to fly too!

[@nicholasong2760]

Video suggestion, Hongdu K-8!

[@habahan4257]

It's a good video, but I think you should have updated it. The Turkish Hürjet is also in the game.

[@pduidesign]

I wonder how it compares to the South Korean KAI-50?

[@neutronalchemist3241]

One is a trainer, and it's main goal is to provide to pilots (actual or future) of more capable and expensive machines realistic combat training for cheap. It also has an attack version, but that was not it's main goal. The other is a mixed light fighter-trainer. It's better as a combat aircraft, but more expensive to operate, and less capable as a trainer. "big" air forces prefer to have dedicated trainers, like the M-346, to reduce the operative costs of the first-line fighters they already have. "smaller" air forces prefer to have mixed light fighter-trainers, because that enhances the number of machines they have that can actually fight.

[@yarmud]

Why single engine jets are less sleek and slim nowadays?

[@neutronalchemist3241]

M346 is twin engined. However, to have a lifting body, and because you have to put fuel somewhere. Slim single-engine aircrafts usually had very short range.

[@michaelmulligan0]

Wonder those the now M346FA have any Russian components?

[@AlFreeman-xy4jy]

Tecnologia russa? No assolutamente

[@doc7440]

No

[@Sevastopol91]

The entire airframe was designed by the Russians

[@mosesracal6758]

The T-50 is so much more capable though as it is derived from the F-16 instead of being derived from the Hawk which is just a trainer. How it won the US' T-X program probably comes down to the cost cutting it can get with it sharing a similarity to the Hawk and existing supply chains and production lines in US soil.

[@LeonardoUgoliniSANDSCULPTOR]

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[@Happy-wb8gi]

Got to love all the jealous comments because its Italian. People got to remember, Italy are the engineering founders of many departments which are not just in engineering, but also in the English language which is made 99% of the latin alphabet for these idiots to write their comments.

[@ronjon7942]

And yet…irrelevant. Now, pasta, wine and cheese…

[@Happy-wb8gi]

@@ronjon7942 and your comment using LATIN alphabet, so not realy irrelevant!👍🙃

[@valerianocuomo996]

​@@ronjon7942eurofighter typhon buil for the 65%,idiot,acquisided helicopter of UK

[@piter6076]

​@@ronjon7942idiota...

[@andynoya4106]

First ❤

[@iandaniel1748]

M 346 master jet technology can use upgrade F5 2 tiger

[@valerianocuomo996]

Also eurofighter typhon build in italy, 65% , 35 % spain uk germany

[@alaincarmona6634]

Colombia si. Nesita 😮

[@johnnie5442]

It's the strp brother of YAK-130. But they now have a similar and much cheaper alternative in China.

[@GSteel-rh9iu]

KAI FA50 Block 20 with AESA radar would make the most sense for LIFT since it was developed with LM and with F-16 training in mind. M346 is a fine plane but I suspect the FA50 has surpassed it.

[@solinvictus1234]

Not at all. The M346 have ETTS system (in-cockpit simulated war scenarios that doesn't require actual friend or enemy flying with you, it's all virtual reality) and the whole avionics thinked to train pilots for planes of 4.5-5 and future 6 gen. Kai-50 is focused on a 4 gen fighter as the F16. That's the huge difference. One can let you learn advanced systems of todays planes, the other can't

[@neutronalchemist3241]

One is a trainer, and it's main goal is to provide to pilots (actual or future) of more capable and expensive machines realistic combat training for cheap. It also has an attack version, but that was not it's main goal. The other is a mixed light fighter-trainer. It's better as a combat aircraft, but more expensive to operate, and less capable as a trainer. "big" air forces prefer to have dedicated trainers, like the M-346, to reduce the operative costs of the first-line fighters they already have. "smaller" air forces prefer to have mixed light fighter-trainers, because that enhances the number of machines they have that can actually fight.

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[@sciacarlo]

Praticamente la "panda" degli aerei.

[@comndanty2568]

Its a yak

[@robertluiswilliams7189]

Russian. Design and. Basis for. . ❤😂😂😂😂. Business crime

[@solinvictus1234]

The only thing it have in common with the Yak it's the design, but not even it since the Italians have revisited it. The M346 is way superior to the Yak 130 in every aspect. 1. The Yak 130 is fully made of heavy aeronautical aluminum. The M346 instead is a mix of aeronautical aluminum and composite materials, resulting 30% lighter than the Yak. 2. The M346 was modified having an huger engine bay with the possibility to fit more powerfull engines. It wasn't done on the Yak. 3. The M346 avionics is at the state of the art, it fit also an ETTS system (tactical in-cockpit war scenario simulator). The Yak 130 avionics is meh, the first batch of Yak 130 was even selled with full analogic avionics. Like it was a machine of the 80's.

[@fifi23o5]

Russian design.

[@silusiano]

Not exactly.

[@fifi23o5]

@@silusianoIt is. Exactly that. Russian design.

[@silusiano]

@@fifi23o5 nope.

[@fifi23o5]

@@silusiano yep

[@valerianocuomo996]

Fincantieri, Leonardo, softpower

[@Sevastopol91]

Original Russian airframe. Italians got what they wanted, and took off running the last minute

[@solinvictus1234]

Bs. Italians split the project cause Yakovlev was in financial crisis when this plane was in development, so both the partiea wasn't agreeying about the plane development at all. Yakovlev asked funds to Russian government but it refuse, so Aermacchi took his own way and developed according to their ideas. That's why an M346 cost 20 millions and a Yak cost 7 millions. That's why the M346 is largely chosen as advanced trainer and the Yak not.

[@georgebarnes8163]

Just another Hawk trainer clone that never made it to the production line quick enough

[@AlbertoZge]

Dudes do you, remember the fact that Italy in 1964 it was the third nation to launch satellites into space? And about the Jet Fiat G91? Remember Olivetti? And the physicists who carried out the first fission of the atom? And more and more... The rest are miserable prejudices that characterize those who express them.

[@Big_Black_Dick]

the Italians do everything wit style 😂 definitely a good looking jet lol

[@Pincuishin]

So its literally just a yak 130 that they cut partnership with and just ripped the whole design just adding some fancy baubles on it.

[@nicho3051]

No, the original design is very different from what the M346 is nowadays. M346 is way more advanced and better equipped.

[@andrewhayes7055]

Err no

[@casuallatecomer7597]

More like 2 twins whose parents divorced and took a child each, resulting in them growing up to do somewhat different but similar roles. At least that's how I like to interpret the development of M-346/Yak-130.

[@SQSNSQ]

Airframe is 95% Russian design Yak-130. The only difference is to accommodate the Italian engines. The avionics and engines are Italian, the ejection seats are also inferior to Russian American design.

[@silusiano]

​@SQSNSQ airframe is composite material in the italian aircraft, the Russians opted for aeronautical luminium and are 30% heavier so not even the airframe is the same. So yes a part from materials, avionics, engines and some other details they are the same aircraft. Lol

[@economia-italia-com]

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