M Night Shyamalan's Trap Non-Spoiler AND Spoiler Review!

[@ScaryAF_Entertainment]

I enjoyed this review and I will try to answer a few of your questions, but most cannot be explained haha: The Phone Question: When Lady Raven ran into the bathroom she had Coopers phone and a second phone which is how she was able to livestream to her own fans. Unless that was Coopers daughters phone, but if that's the case idk how she would of logged into her account to go live lmao. Cooper asks for both phones after breaking into bathroom. Why did he push the girl question: He wanted to create a distraction and get all the police officers away from the entrance so they could escape. But once he got to the bottom of the stairs he noticed they were outside the door too. Really dumb move considering there were cameras everywhere and I am sure the FBI would review all the footage if they didn't catch the Butcher that day. Same with air fryer incident, FBI would have reviewed the footage and found out who tampered with the air fryer. This is my question: Why couldn't Cooper just walk out after the show with his daughter? All they were doing was questioning the males, if he was a sophisticated serial killer I am sure he could have easily talked his way out of the concert.

[@order42show]

The phone: yeah, I figured that’s how she got a stream up that fast, but…I dunno, it felt sloppy - like, it didn’t feel natural. The push: yeah, that makes sense, I guess, but wow, that and the fryer thing were just really strange. More sloppiness! Yeah, he might’ve been able to talk his way out…man, I don’t even know, so much of this depended on so much convenience…

[@ScaryAF_Entertainment]

@@order42show I really wanted to love this movie. But it was very sloppy like you said! Josh Hartnett did an amazing job, maybe someone will buy the rights and do a prequel or spinoff with his character.

[@order42show]

I would actually like to see that, and especially if it was rated R so we could actually see him be The Butcher…?

[@ScaryAF_Entertainment]

@@order42show R Rating would be Sick!!!

[@JohnFranklinMovieReviewer]

I liked the movie when Josh Hartnett and his daughter Riley were at the concert. I enjoyed all of that. M. Night's daughter was good when she was singing, but using her for more than that. I shook my head with her acting. Great questions and I don't have any answers for you.

[@order42show]

Yep…agreed on all counts. I’d be curious to see if anyone had the answers!

[@JohnFranklinMovieReviewer]

@@order42show Thank you and I hope so too about the answers.

[@orishaorisha684]

Movie awful…there were no cameras watching him while he went in restricted areas & messing with the fries.

[@order42show]

I probably missed that because I was too busy ROLLING MY EYES. 😆 But good one!

[@randyf5126]

agreed🤣 after the fryer blew up, because he threw the bottles in there, why would they not roll the cameras back to see who threw the bottles in the fryer?!?!? the fbi, swat team and police department was there!

[@order42show]

Another convenience…it’s because the script didn’t have that in there. I still don’t understand why he went to the roof and what he expected to learn…

[@alucard2010]

He happened to talk to the right person at the right time.. people will pick a person with a health issue over a non health issue..this is actually pretty common. Musical artists have invited people on stage in real life

[@order42show]

All true, but highly convenient that he talked to the right person at the right time, in a movie full of conveniences…but hey, if you liked it, I’m glad!

[@alucard2010]

The trailer shows him grabbing the cleaner off a table so no the trailer does not imply the whole movie will take place in the arena

[@order42show]

I don’t remember that. As far as I know, I only saw the first trailer, but who knows?

[@apocalypticambience]

I thought all the exact same things. Everything was just so convenient. Limo driver just disappears too. I'm guessing the wife was expecting him to come back and so put the stuff in the pie before hand. I think he pushed the girl down the stairs to create a distraction so he and his daughter could leave. Everything he did in this movie felt like one of those video games that give you choices, like "pick up police radio". Or "put oil bottles into fryer" or "take employee's access card" and every option always works out. Supposedly he's a firefighter. My solution would have been to tell my daughter I have a work emergency, and have her sit with the annoying red head lady and her daughter and she can get a ride home that way. And say "tell your mother I'm not sure when I'll be home", then find a good place in the venue to hide until everyone is gone, including the police. Call the wife maybe occasionally to let her know I'm still working so she doesn't report me missing, which would arouse suspicion being the one guy who disappeared from the concert. Then sneak out when it's closed and empty, with a disguise from backstage or dressing room or hoodie maybe, in case they go back and check the security footage. Maybe?

[@order42show]

All good points! So was M Night playing Hitman when he came up with this? All of your suggestions sound like something that could’ve led to a less frustrating story, but…who knows? Fact is, I really enjoyed that the drama of his daughter finding out was part of the suspense, so tossing her aside for the final act was strange to me. I try to not judge a movie based on what could have been - just, how is the movie on its own? But man, there are so many instances where other less frustrating choices could’ve really improved things.

[@YourOldBuddyBucho]

I know in my heart that Josh Hartnett roots for you too.

[@order42show]

One can only hope!

[@cloudcity77]

This movie felt like a level from Hitman (video game).

[@order42show]

😂

[@Bacuda09]

My favorite parts were the ghost mom, bad dialogue, nepotism showcasing M. Nights daughter aka lady raven, the underused fbi profiler, the risk to a concert crowd to find one guy based on a receipt, the dumb driver, dumb lady raven, the dumb instagram live feed of placing a teen at risk, the drugged pie, the limo scene dummy, the picking up the bike scene and the end in the truck scene. This movie was pulled out of Nights @ss. Lol

[@order42show]

Yeah, the whole thing is like…what? Feels like a first draft. If the point of the movie was to put out a killer trailer to get butts in seats so you’re subjected to his daughter’s music (a little Trap of its own), then I guess he succeeded!

[@796r]

First time viewer and really liked your review I’m still going to see it tomorrow but you said something at the end that caught my attention. I swear everyone either give 4/5 stars or 1 or 0 nowadays. No in between and that’s what skews the reviews on every site. Anyways subbed

[@order42show]

I feel like it’s a product of our times…it’s either the best movie they’ve ever seen, or the worst. For me personally, this is a 2/4 stars or a 5/10 or whatever scale, but I typically don’t like scoring movies that way. There’s nuance (which again, many people don’t seem to have these days). A number means nothing to me - I want to know why. I do appreciate the kind words though!

[@796r]

@@order42show my first reaction was same with you, a good concept but he just really went off the rails and points of the movie were super boring. I also don’t know about that bike scene cause they showed where you pump air into but the metal rod he had would never come from that. Good mindless one watch summer flick to pass time but definitely not a good film and won’t watch it again. Was hoping by the end he’d just kill everyone lol

[@order42show]

Haha, yeah, I wanted SOMEthing to feel natural! Yeah, I’m glad Josh got a starring role, but I wish it was better.

[@796r]

@@order42show yup love him as an actor and I thought he carried the movie really well, but definitely suffered from that poor script. If this ever gets a sequel I hope they just let him play a complete psychopath with better writing

[@randyf5126]

there is no artist in the world who can sell out an arena and would go to anyone’s home without security 😭 also, she didn’t need to go in the home. all she had to do was call the police and tell them what happened and send them his address. what did he mean by “our mom” were him and the singer siblings??

[@order42show]

That’s a good call on the security! I think the movie might’ve already lost me by that point so I stopped thinking. But you’re right. Just call 911 and put the phone down. But…then you wouldn’t have gotten the “save Spencer” scene. I’ve got no idea on the “our mom” thing! I don’t remember that at all!

[@GFCProductionsx]

It's the 3rd act and ending that was bad. I agree the trailer was better than the movie, sadly. Overall the movie had no lesson or theme to show to the audience.

[@order42show]

You’re right - what was the point in all this? Such a strange script.

[@ancientdavidman]

First comment! First time watching your videos!

[@order42show]

Hey, thank you!

[@paulpelullo7299]

Spoiler-ish Comment - I thought the premise was really good, certainly got my butt into the seat. However, the movie just fell flat. My wife kept leaning over to me and was just utterly confused, which was just polite for, "This movie is weird and makes no sense". I feel like they worked backwards from the hook but put very little thought into making any, and I mean, any of it believable. This movie could have been so much better. In the end, if just felt like a promo for his daughter's singing. I also root for Josh and will continue to.

[@order42show]

Absolutely! Sounds like your opinion matches my own all the way. I didn’t really look at it as a promo for his daughter, but now that I think about it, it certainly seems to be the case. Thanks for the comment!

[@hassonharris632]

I just realized that the agent woman is to be I guess an Easter egg being as she was the twins in the original parent trap. I guess being like his self being a parent trapped. I think he thought That was prob genius.

[@order42show]

I actually didn’t recognize her until after I’d posted the review! But she really didn’t connect with the story in a really meaningful way - I thought she was going to have a greater connection to Cooper. But yeah, it’s one thing to have something be a surprise, it’s another when the director is seemingly elbowing you in the ribs like, “Look how smart that was!”

[@hassonharris632]

@@order42show agreed! When the trailer first was released I was confused as to why she was cast for it seemed very random and they had never made an effort to showcase her as a character. Then seeing the movie I felt she was simply there for that “elbowing” and to drive home the theme and his dual sides to him. But it was almost like the agents in maxxxine where I felt there was no reason for them to be there.

[@order42show]

Oh, I hadn’t seen that one yet. (In fact, haven’t seen Pearl yet.) Did you enjoy that one?

[@Acemonkey87]

Hey yo! Looking forward to it

[@order42show]

Yoooo! I hope you enjoy it!

[@michaelm3512]

He pushed the girl to distract the guards and leave from the downstairs entrance but he later found out they were also more posted outside when he went down

[@order42show]

Ah. I think it’s because of how it was cut in the trailer that threw me off.

[@michaelm3512]

@@order42show yea I still enjoyed the movie though. I’m just a sucker for M Night films because the plot themselves always reel me in no matter how contrived and silly the overall stories are

[@order42show]

I get that. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@daniellebcraftingcorner]

He got in the limo because he impersonated the swat guy like he was going to take over driving her as a protective measure. Driver fell in line pretty fast though. Maybe he pulled him and I didn't see. That all happened really fast. I didn't see how he got out of the limo. Found that highly unbelievable due to how many people were surrounding it. She definitely spiked the pie before he came back. It's why she stayed behind she knew he'd come back and I think maybe police did too because they seemed too ready for him. The spoke of the bike was very unrealistic it was just too big. Overall I enjoyed the movie and the suspense that I overlooked a lot of those hole while I watched. I just left feeling like I was missing something or it lacked something I wanted. We needed more on the butcher himself. Dig more into the profiler psychological stuff.

[@order42show]

There was a lot of “just go with it” that I just can’t get behind. There’s so much that people are bringing up that I missed talking about, too. And yeah, dude’s called “The Butcher” and we really don’t see any of what he does, but - it’s PG-13, because the studio wanted to appeal to the widest audience. I just…yeah, this needed another couple of drafts. I would’ve liked to have seen the story stick with Riley more as well.

[@leeweber85]

It’s pg13 because the whole premise of the movie is to get his daughter’s music out to the masses… and her musics target audience is teenage girls… so they needed to appeal to that demographic. Why the F didn’t the mom just go to the police?! So stupid.

[@order42show]

You know what? That does make some sense! A movie as a promotional tool…hmm. But yeah, it seems like the police AND his wife put a lot of people at risk for this intricate plan…!

[@travisgray8376]

Still liked it though I don't expect masterpieces everytime ukno

[@order42show]

I don’t expect masterpieces every time, either - but that’s cool that you liked it! If we all liked the same movie it’d be a pretty boring place.

[@bruh_hahaha]

shoulda just called the movie NepoTrap. It was a bait n switch to launch another one of his daughters’ Hollywood career. Hopefully he doesn’t have anyone untalented children to push on us.

[@order42show]

I mean…she wasn’t bad as a performer on stage, but her acting could’ve been better.

[@startingover1]

M. Night finances his films, I look at like he has a family business. His business is entertainment. I think his daughter is a bit different from LeBron and his kid. LeBron doesn't own the Lakers. The nepotism criticism is valid, but he does put the money up for his movies ... allegedly.

[@mm-in7tn]

Yo Miss Bliss!!!! She was the highlight. I knew I knew that voice!!!! Not going to lie the expessions JH was making legit had me wanting to keep a lot of space between me and him lol

[@order42show]

I had to look that up - had no idea. But you’re right - JH was really the best part of the whole movie.

[@randyf5126]

he saw his mom ghost(?) at the concession stand at the start of the movie..what was that about? 😂

[@order42show]

I think he’s just haunted by her. He’s a “bad boy”. None of the mom stuff really bothered me, him seeing her and stuff.

[@alucard2010]

She wasn't taken pictures?

[@order42show]

I swore I heard two pictures being snapped. I could be wrong… 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@alucard2010]

Did you not watch the movie?. The pie was already spiked. She didn't eat any of it

[@order42show]

Of course I did. It’s just really poorly done. You’ve been chased and almost caught all night…do you 1. Go home? Or 2. Sit down for a minute for some pie? That’s crazy.

[@alucard2010]

@@order42show he didn't go home for pie, he went home to kill her. And since they are married he fulfilled her request

[@alucard2010]

@@order42show that wasn't your original argument. Your argument was how did she spike the pie. I gave you a reasonable answer and then you deflected to " why would someone go home to eat pie" which also wasn't his intention

[@order42show]

Those are two different things. If I knew that the police were after me, I would certainly not go home. And THEN, I definitely would NOT sit down to have some pie. I understand how she spiked the pie, either in the process of cutting it up as he sat down or before he got there. If it was the first, that was QUICK, and if it was the second, then she also thinks he’s stupid enough to come home? Lots of coincidences. If you think I’m deflecting, maybe I was put on the offensive by “Did you not watch the movie?” The truth is, and I mean this, if you enjoyed the movie, I’m happy for you! But I had many problems with the movie, and I explained those, as any review should!

[@alucard2010]

@@order42show so your original question on how she spiked the pie is no longer your question..then why did you ask it? Now you want to talk about other things. Why are you being dishonest?

[@CarboniteDreamsYT]

bummer, looked so good

[@order42show]

Yeah, it may be one of the bigger disappointments for me so far this year, and it doesn't please me to say that!

[@kevincunningham2368]

Spoiler.... I think some people missed the TWIST. At the table when he was eating the pie with his wife. He says the plan all along was not to catch me at the concert but to catch me at the house. Everyone was in on the plot to get him back to the house and then catch him. They knew he would go back stage. He would use the singer to get out. and she would lead him to the house. The wife found his bag in the car and poisoned him. That was her improvising. That is why all the cops were already at the house.

[@kevincunningham2368]

The drugs were in his bag. She used them to drug the pie. It could have been before he got there. They believed he would return to the house.

[@order42show]

Yeah, I didn’t really talk about that part of it - I felt like we were supposed to believe that so much of that were the cops playing 4D chess, but there was just so much convenience for that to be even possible. I get that she drugged him using the pills and how, but…she knew he would sit down to eat it? I just keep shaking my head at how this script didn’t get another draft…

[@kellyperez1778]

You’re giving the movie too much credit. If that’s the case where we’re the cops waiting outside the house before she got there in the limo. They did not use Haley Mills AT ALL.

[@mashamaxret]

Thanks for the honest review Rob. Will go see Twisters instead. Rob saving us money and time apparently. Trap had a fantastic trailer! Such a shame. Had great potential.

[@order42show]

You’re welcome! Twisters is a fun one! And yeah…definitely the biggest disappointment of the year so far for me.

[@rsnickster363]

Hope you enjoy Twisters, it kinda dragged for me except for like 2 scenes. I'm about to watch deadpool for the 3rd time

[@order42show]

I enjoyed both - excited to see D&W again.

[@startingover1]

M Night maybe setting up sequels or a cinematic universe. A Prequel, perhaps? This movie may actually age well. They Truman Showed the butcher. He may have powers that allow him to escape and avoid detection. I wont lie Trap is full of plot holes. The big twist maybe that there may be more Butcher movies and more to the Butcher.

[@order42show]

You may be correct - there may be more to this than what we saw, BUT…you’ve got to start with something that’s going to hook people. Unbreakable, for example, set up a universe (we didn’t know it at the time), but it made almost $250M on a $75M budget. Trap, on the other hand, has only made $20M worldwide on a $35-$40M budget. He’ll be lucky to make $35M by the end of the theater run. When you consider most movies on average need 2.5X the budget to be “profitable” (because of print and advertising costs and the cut the theaters get), he doesn’t seem to have made a movie that has resonated with people. Just money-wise, it doesn’t seem like a smart move for a studio to back that. Now, these days, there’s no telling how much they’ll get from streaming, but I just can’t see this going any further. I, for one, thought that it was built so heavily on convenience that I can’t see me wanting to see another, and judging by the buzz from other reviewers, they seem to agree. But stranger things have happened!

[@alucard2010]

Everyone was focused on her. Ehy would they pay attention to a driver,?

[@order42show]

Ok…but he had time to change clothes and prop up the clothing/armor/helmet without not one person noticing that? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@alucard2010]

@@order42show if he is doing that in the car " windows are tinted" he could have left the car from the passenger side.. he didn't change clothes. A helmet and vest is hardly a full costume change. I had issues with the movie but these are nit picks

[@dmaynor]

thank you!

[@order42show]

…for what? (But thank YOU!)

[@dmaynor]

@@order42show the good review!

[@order42show]

Oh…well, you’re welcome!

[@montalvojr]

Its a movie write your own film . Some of it was unbelievable. However, that was part of the movie. It's definitely not going to win any academy awards but it was entertaining. OCD is a mother for the cake . He even told that he'll finish it in five bites. She knew this and spiked the cake. He didn't know that that person was the uncle but yet being manipulative and charming. He was trying to get information to try to help him get out of there. After that he milked it and milked it. It's called the spoke on a bike. You're really not good at what you do Unfortunately and understandably.

[@order42show]

I’m…not good at what I do because I didn’t come up with spoke right away or because you liked a movie I didn’t? I mean…movies are subjective, right? I said that. But…there are plenty of channels out there if you don’t like it.

[@db_cooks]

I haven’t seen the film, but I wanted to stay and hear the spoilers…but 11 minutes in, so far you’re saying things out of context. You haven’t told me the spoiler events of the film yet? I don’t know the characters and what happened, so your questions about plot points don’t feel like spoilers, because I have no idea what you’re talking about??

[@order42show]

Well, the spoiler section is more for people that have seen the movie. I don’t really think it would be helpful for those to recap the entire movie, but if it helps, the Wikipedia entry breaks down the entire plot.

[@clarissawestbrook2203]

I watched Trap twice today. I thoroughly enjoyed it. ❤❤❤❤🎥🎬🎟️🎞️🍿🥤

[@order42show]

Wow, I’m glad you enjoyed it! Movies are so subjective!

[@clarissawestbrook2203]

@@order42show They are I’m actually a movie enthusiast. I’ve already watched 25 new releases this year. My absolute favorite movie genre is horror/suspense/thrillers/psychological thrillers/murder mysteries. I’ve been excited to watch Trap ever since the first trailer dropped months ago. As a horror movie fan I’m so excited for the latter half of this year. I’ve already watched A Quiet Place Day One, Maxxxine, Longlegs and Trap. I’m excited to watch Cuckoo, Alien:Romulus, Blink Twice, The Crow remake,Speak no Evil, Never Let Go,Terrfier 3 and Smile 2. Have you watched any of these movies besides Trap? Are you excited to watch any of these movies?

[@order42show]

I’m typically not into those sorts of movies, but they’re all on my watchlist! I heard enough about Longlegs that I really do want to see that one. Super pumped for Alien: Romulus, and I am curious about The Crow and Cuckoo - those look interesting!

[@clarissawestbrook2203]

@@order42show Ok awesome what’s your favorite movie genre?

[@order42show]

@clarissawestbrook2203 I love movies in all sorts of genres. I find a lot of horror/slasher movies to be (for me) lacking in the script department. Since it’s so expensive, I try to reserve my theater spending for ones I’m super pumped about. But, I mean, I went and saw Late Night With the Devil earlier this year, so - it just has to speak to me! (Btw, seek Late Night out if you haven’t seen that one!)