M1 iPad Pro LiDAR for Architects

[@carltonblack2008]

Magicplan allows you to connect a Bluetooth laser and quickly tighten up your measurements to 100%... it's designed to work really well for contractors, estimators, insurance adjusters, etc. As well, you can drop notes, standard images, and 360 panoramic images into rooms. One great thing for contractors is that you can quickly drop line itemed services in and build accurate quotes on the spot using the area, etc. info pulled directly from the floor plan.

[@sarainr2115]

For an Architect, do you recommend iPad 12.9 or iPad 11 inch?

[@DavidTomic]

I have the 11 inch as an architect and it's perfect. 12.9 is just too big for all day site meetings, basically a laptop at that size

[@piosin1682]

How do you ensure that when you move the iPad in various ways, the 3D model doesn't move and start to be destroyed?

[@exbreezyboy]

Thanks David great video. Been playing around with various 3d scanning apps. Found the polycam has given me reasonable results for scanning small objects to create escape assets for renders...

[@timothykovea5881]

Thanks David looking forward to getting my iPad Pro shipped over soon from AUS and keen to try out some of these apps on pain staking site measures. It could help with sketching the wall layout quickly and then using a laser or tape measure for accurate dimensions Awesome vid. Thanks

[@MakiPavlidis]

Hey David -thanks for this mate, great video. I don’t think the Scaniverse AR thing is gimmicky. It’s probably not all that helpful to an architect’s workflow, but i can imagine how handy it will be for decorating interiors or some task where you want to scan an object and place it in a room or next to another object that’s elsewhere for a visual comparisson.

[@DavidTomic]

I’m sure there is great value and purpose for it, and I am sure the tech will only get better until it is the only thing we use.

[@ethanwang3510]

Hi David, Great Video! I'm wondering if any of the three apps are good for commercial application, since commercial retail area are usually bigger with higher ceiling level with open ceiling style.

[@DavidTomic]

Not really because lidar tops out at about 5m, the closer you can get the better the results.

[@ethanwang3510]

@@DavidTomic I see, so for retail space that has ceiling level 15ft and lower it’s fine, the accuracy will drop down for anything higher. Does the square footage matter, for instance for a 10000sf plus space, does it just take longer to measure up, but the accuracy is there?

[@UncarvedBlockHolds]

Have you re-visited any of these apps? Tried soooooooooo many and they are all pretty bad. Was hoping to get more out of the lidar function of this ipad, but it seems the software to use the lidar is all still in its infancy.

[@esmokebaby]

Getting mine this weekedn hope I can get my channel going with it and other creative projects around the house

[@DavidTomic]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@magnussolheim]

I am using 3d scanner app, and transfer it to archicad. Very usefull.

[@bogstandardash3751]

I really need this, I love archicad. Could you run me through how you achieve this? Happy to pay for your time if it's a long story.

[@magnussolheim]

@@bogstandardash3751 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGqrfa2qftmNftk We needed to switch Y and Z derection. You can also import OBJ(ect) insted of xzy files. HAve fun with the future

[@hariomchandra9048]

U did not give the download link of these app

[@cekuhnen]

LiDAR assisted photogrammetry like Trnio is very useful !

[@DavidTomic]

Great suggestion

[@GabrielMontfalcon]

Hi David, do you know if the point cloud can be exported to Revit? Thank you

[@DavidTomic]

From memory it was exported as a pretty typical file type so you should be able too. Maybe not as an actual point cloud but as an object as a minimum

[@dmitrys.7426]

Will be heplful as a backup of measurements of facility. Especially for plants etc.

[@wheres_bears1378]

Can polycam images be imported into archicad or twinmotion?

[@DavidTomic]

They can be exported as FBX which can be imported into twinmotion today. Archicad 27 which isn’t out yet will support FBX import.

[@DC-ts6og]

Thanks for the honest review. I am actually glad that you point it out all bad things about “magic plan” 👍🏻

[@kramregnu2945]

Two Ipad Pros! I don't have that much blood to give

[@swarnamaygoswami4081]

Your videos are really helpful. Thank you very much.

[@DavidTomic]

Glad I could help!

[@onefeyday]

Thank you for the crystal clear explanations! I’m contemplating to buy an iPad pro 2021 as I work in the furniture industry 😅

[@Kickey165]

Did you end up buying it?

[@lucaslira8286]

Can i use these apps with a iPhone 12 Pro Max ?

[@DavidTomic]

I believe so

[@adamfilip]

have you tried Canvas?

[@cekuhnen]

Apps like magicPlan I never found functionality useful - but also all LiDAR scan apps suffer from drift making larger scan very problematic

[@DavidTomic]

Very true. Good for quick random projects that don't require precision perfect results.

[@georgevazquez5134]

Great vid Thanks, one question like polycam can you scan more then one room in the same scan or do you have paste rooms together like in canvas. Not a fan of canvas because of that but do like how accurate it is!

[@sansibarloungemusic]

you can scan a entire house or buildung with multiple floors in one scan, just try it, ant make a full walktrough scan, u will be suprised with polycam

[@piosin1682]

Why when I scan with my 4th generation iPad Pro, the model is misplaced and comments become a disaster?

[@GabrielMontfalcon]

ok thanks!!!

[@wrnowown]

Ok nice downloaded it

[@steveteare3865]

To be fair to Magicplan (which I have used but am not associated with in any way), you didn't seem to be using it correctly from what I could see in your video. Also, so far as accuracy is concerned, it allows you to bluetooth in measurements from a laser measure, so you can get the overall shape by scanning and then update with laser measurements. See 'LiDAR Scanning a Fully Furnished Apartment on an iPhone 12 Pro' for usage example from Magicplan. I'm not an architect so have no comment on applicability for that purpose. Thanks for the video!

[@DavidTomic]

Valid comments, Bluetooth adapter kind of defeats the purpose of the built in lidar though.

[@Danster82]

How do you get the scaniverse into archicad it doesn't have exports for xyz or e57

[@DavidTomic]

Made a video on this too, check the channel. Not idea whatever way you try

[@imanekarime3292]

Thank you and ipad pro❤

[@amlecciones]

Can you resale polycam measurements if you were able to take 1 actual measurement on site? So you can hopefully get more accurate measurements other than the actual measurement taken?

[@DavidTomic]

Not to my knowledge, no.

[@LiDAR3D]

You can rescale a polycam 3D model in a CAD tool such as Blender. But there scale is accurate so there is not need for that. The things to look out for is drifts and distortions that are prone to happen in areas with reflective surfaces such as tiles and mirrors

[@kimdenny2738]

Well done

[@davebarrett33]

Thanks for the review! 👍🏼🥂

[@DavidTomic]

Most welcome mate!

[@phildarwen2984]

Brilliant video mate!

[@DavidTomic]

Thank you!

[@erikleypoldt8275]

What about a full house measure up? Not just a room? Quicker to just use a laser. Tech is not there yet.

[@LiDAR3D]

The LiDAR scanner is much faster than using a laser. We tested this by letting a floor planner pro compete with a first time lidar user. Even if you have years of experience in floor planning there is no way that anyone can measure more accurately and faster than a LiDAR scannner

[@BarlitosC]

Did he not use LiDAR for Magicplan? Tf

[@duanentreena]

He seemed to missed that point!

[@hudsonchalmers6504]

You can use cloud compare and scale exactly from a single measurement

[@DavidTomic]

Good to know!

[@michaelcook9414]

Nifty little thing to do if you already have the lidar capable iPad, but I'll stick to using my leica disto laser bluetoothed to my 'redstick pro' app. Its super accurate, quick, can model in 2D/3D, and even directly export to archicad. Only con is I dont have the 360 image.

[@erikleypoldt8275]

The app is $400?

[@michaelcook9414]

@@erikleypoldt8275 Yes, although an iPad pro is around $1500+ / Archicad licence is $9000+ / Leica disto is around $600+. In the grand scheme of things $400 for a specialised app is a drop in the pond for an architect/ consultant. This is just a setup that works with my current equipment (and that I trust to be accurate) I would love a Leica BLK2GO but $60,000 US is a bit out of my budget. Ultimately we all just have to be comfortable, adept, and professional with the equipment that we can best afford.

[@ab-hx8qe]

good video and I appreciate the effort but stop saying you get exact measurements and the app is great, to then in the next cut talk about how its not at all accurate. I cant think of a single scenario where a scan would be useful for architectural purposes with that much error. I see this being something that could have applications for digital art or modeling but just lacks the precision needed for anything architectural. Good luck with the next video.

[@DavidTomic]

Valid feedback. Eventually the lidar system on the back of your phone will be highly accurate and that day will be game.changing

[@JavierOropeza08]

that accuracy is not great...I was really looking forward to getting one of these for the same reasons you seem to be using it for. But after this video, I think I need to wait a few more years for the tech to improve. If you cannot trust the scans for dimensions, then I see no point in scanning a room. Sure i get a 360 kind of view in 3d, but that in itself is not that useful. I actually use a 360 camera (not lidar) that I use to take photos of all the rooms in lieu of traditional photos, so the usefulness of the 3d scan is even less for me due to the 360 photos. When I go measure a house, it sucks. I always want to get out of there as soon as possible. A lot of times its hot, or gross, or you feel like you are in the way, so if I have to scan all AND THEN measure all, I will probably skip the scan every time. Now if the client has an ipad pro, and wants to scan each of their rooms, I can use that to study the project before going out to the site. I would take scans over just pictures. But even then, the usefulness of the scans will be very minor. Thanks for the video and look forward any updates on lidar stuff!

[@DavidTomic]

Glad you were able to take a conclusion from this video. I do believe it will be an amazing tool in the near future, maybe a dedicated lidar scanner will be more effective, but ill continue testing until I find a good end result to save us all time and money in the field!

[@ryanjohnston9898]

There's always the BLK360 if you need the accuracy

[@JavierOropeza08]

@@ryanjohnston9898 yep, I have been looking into it for a long time, but 20k new is rough. I honestly have not seen many videos on the blk360, I have read mixed reviews. I know its going to be better than the ipad, but 10x better than the ipad? idk, I hope so

[@ryanjohnston9898]

@@JavierOropeza08 I have had a few Blk live demos and its impressive and works very fast.The thermal heat loss over the scan looks great. Have not got to use the data tho. I have used data from the Pegasus 2 -- its amazing but a different kettle of fish and still needs a bit of cleaning. I am normally an android rather than apple user but the prospect of a personal Lidar scanner for hobbie projects is exciting. But i get what your saying it may not cut it for some professonal use cases, but accuracy is expensive.. hopefully not for much longer.

[@JavierOropeza08]

@@ryanjohnston9898 Cool, thanks for that Info. I have not heard of the Pegasus 2, its huge! Would be great for those huge sites you just have to drive around for. Very different than the blk360 though. I agree having personal lidar is great, looking forward to android phones getting those.

[@ethanwasme4307]

just need an app that you can use to model pipe under a sink for example have it tell you what materials and measures you'll need... that would be residential plumbing jobs taken back by the home owner 🤣

[@JGabrielF]

Interesante, Saludos David, 😊✌🏻

[@tydencruze8200]

Interesting Thanks David, 😊✌🏻 :I translated this without google pls be proud

[@esmokebaby]

I want a app I can just make a scene and repaint walls add trim basicly redo the house and get a idea what I like to do maby make a dresser in my closet

[@DavidTomic]

Don't know of an app like that

[@lohacy]

perfect ！ 想起我第一份 interior 功課！ 用人手 度個班房!！ 做餐死

[@chloemontoya7706]

My gosh. I wanna marry him

[@drrottenstien7338]

You must be loaded!

[@DavidTomic]

Not even close 😂

[@christinemuller3526]

Who cares if you bought two of the iPads? Why do you think that’s relevant to the video? 🤣🤣🤣💦