M1 vs M4 iPad Pro: Shocking Real World Results!

[@gaiustacitus4242]

A word of caution. Do not leave the pencil attached to the iPad when not in use. Why not? Because the pencil is a constant drain on the iPad's battery, charging to remain at 100% battery even when it doesn't need to. I now keep the Apple pencil in my laptop bag when not in use or needing to be charged.

[@dazquil]

Apple should allow users to set a minimum limit before the pencil should start topping off charge when magnetically attached. Like don’t start recharging my pencil until it is less than 85% or whatever number you chose.

[@gaiustacitus4242]

@@dazquil Absolutely.

[@wwessex]

Cool thanks

[@sergejkrynycky728]

NOT TRUE. :) Your iPad is very smart with how and when it is charging the Apple Pencile and it is safe and recommended to keep attached to iPad. It is just as safe as keeping your Macbook on a charger without damaging battery, which is a thing that Macbooks are known for. All this was confirmed when I talked about the Apple Pencile charging in Apple Store here in Stockholm and even searched for it at Apple Community website. Just google ”Is it safe to keep apple pencil on ipad”. When the pencil is not attached you are risking it getting discharged and then having to be charged again for use. That way you will go through the charging cycles of the battery way faster then when kept on iPad. The amount of battery that the penci takes from iPad is so minimal, that it takes no toll on iPads battery health and it just smartly keeps the Apple Pencil in a healthy charge capacity. So don’t worry and keep it on iPad. I had my iPad Pro 2018 model with Apple Pencile since it was released, attached to one another for 3,5 years and those devices worked like champs with no battery issues. Cheers guys!

[@Bezdf]

I leave my pen attached for years with no problems!

[@brettlowenthal9989]

I upgraded from the M1 4th Gen 12.9 iPad Pro and went with the M4 11 inch iPad Pro, got tired of the larger size. I love the OLED and the lighter weight but other from that is about the same

[@BigJeezie]

I just traded my M1 13 1tb for a M4 13 1tb. The thickness and the screen are amazing. I’m happy. Nano screen seems silly when you can get a protector that gives you the feel and isn’t permanent. Especially since it washes out the new Tandem OLED.

[@TheAppleBias]

Nice. Did you use apples trade in system or another way? Yeah the nano is cool it definitely does a better job removing glare than my matte screen protector, but I still like the option of being able to go back and forth.

[@hardtalkbbc]

Big mistake . Nano is the way to go

[@JoshuaWilliam-zb7sx]

Cope about nano

[@BigJeezie]

@TheAppleBias yes I used the Apple trade-in. They gave me $510 for my M1 13" 1tb Wifi/Cellular. It will arrive to them on Wednesday. Hopefully, it's not a headache like I've read. Time will tell.

[@BigJeezie]

@JoshuaWilliam-zb7sx brother I can have any iPad I want. Solid gold think about that. The nano is horrendous to the to the OLED screen. Also it's only a finsh that will wear off over time. Cope that.

[@mannkeithc]

I have a M1 12.9-inch iPad Pro 2TB model with magic keyboard. The hardware is amazing, but iPad OS has made it the most disappointing computer I own. So, I will never buy another iPad Pro all the time it can only run iPad OS. I object to paying a high price for a tablet computer that is crippled to run in a lock down ecosystem of mostly mediocre smart phone style apps. iPad OS workflow gets in the way of how I want to use a computer. I don't want to be restricted to only sourcing applications from Apple's crappy app store. I rarely use my M2 MacBook Pro these days, because of the lack of touch screen and intrinsic stylus support, and instead have transitioned to Windows 11 arm because I can have a computer table with a desktop class operating system. I know for some people, like my Wife, iPad OS works, and for my iPad Mini its fine. But for scientist / engineer, like me, who likes to run emulators, virtual machines, code using a full IDE, draw, do maths, complex analytical spreadsheets, play games, re-image external SSDs and memory cards, etc, iPad OS feels so inadequate, and an M4 iPad Pro would be a massive waste of money.

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah problem with the iPad is the name (and price). The Pro name just doesn’t fit cause unless your an artist there really isn’t many professionals that can use it to get their stuff done.

[@alexsherel3344]

math….no s, sorry pet peeve.

[@gaiustacitus4242]

The iPad is technically a computer, but it has a different use case than a laptop. Each has a purpose.

[@dylantech]

@@alexsherel3344 Your pet peeve is British people spelling correctly?

[@TheAppleBias]

My biggest problem with the M4 is cost vs usability. The pro is for such a small set of people because of the limitations.

[@IgorTFerreira]

thanks for the fair review! I'll keep my 2018 Ipads Pro and 2021 M1 for some more time... I don't think i will get any real improvement over the last generations... keep uploading! :)

[@TheAppleBias]

Glad you liked the review. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.

[@truthteller2711]

Would love to see the video compared to 2018 iPad Pro 😅

[@cheryl6384]

Appreciate the fact this video doesn't use special lights to make the M4 screen drastically different.

[@TheAppleBias]

Yep cause since it still stacked up really well against it that is still something people would want to know.

[@cheryl6384]

@@TheAppleBias Yeah I'm sorry I was actually coming off like that because I assumed this video was just trying to bash iPad M1 and trying to get us to buy more. I actually watched the video now and it was one of the best and most unbiased videos. So I'm sorry about that.

[@TheAppleBias]

Thanks that means a lot and thanks for watching the video. Yeah the iPad in my opinion has been that one device that just hasn’t required an update yet. Hopefully the M5 or iPadOS 19 brings something to it that makes the upgrade worth it.

[@britzglam6866]

Love love love this video because I have the m1 iPad Pro and I’m wondering if I should up grade

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah I too was happy to see the results. The new one is just so expensive.

[@TransitAndTeslas]

The “technology” originally…talking about the cloth. Oh my god, I’m laughing hysterically lol

[@FractalPrism.]

its kinda wild that w all the new tech pieces inside the ipad that ppl want to 'restore the paper feel' and buy even more add ons just for that. when you could just ... use paper and not spend $3,000

[@TheAppleBias]

Haha so true. But having things digital is a big plus from paper.

[@synraxx]

People want to have the feel of paper whilst also having all the insane benefits of digital art, that's why

[@TheAppleBias]

@synrax exactly!

[@15TstepsAday]

I bought a Remarkable 2 for „paper“ notes and I’m quite happy with it as the writing feeling is very good for me. An old iPad Pro 10.5 and the iPad Mini 6 with or without Paperlike screen were unusable for me for notetaking. Big minus is of course the need for a second device…

[@mariannelorddunn7328]

I would like an iPad to edit home movies while on the go, plus need it to put sheet music, to play organ at church and community choir, on it instead of lugging around heavy music books. Buying the newest iPad is a bit too expensive for me. What is a good quality iPad that for my use? Do the M1 & M4 difference make a difference in editing speed, or what generation? Do you know of a sheet music app that I can just nod my head or wink, or hands-free to turn the pages? I'm kind of confused of which one to get and if it's really worth it to get the latest model.

[@TheAppleBias]

I’d say the M1 would be a great model for you. Just make sure you get enough GBs to store the videos. Editing speed difference is super minimal with what you are wanting to do the M1 will be plenty fast enough. I am not sure of what sheet music app is best but I’m sure someone has the videos on KZbin comparing them.

[@mariannelorddunn7328]

@@TheAppleBias Thank you! I do appreciate you taking the time to respond. I'm pretty lost with all the choices and price differences.

[@TheAppleBias]

@mariannelorddunn7328 happy to help! As far as the iPad goes. I’d look for a 512gb model M1. That should be enough space for editing home movies. If you want cellular those are extra and you’d have to pay monthly for the cellular access. I usually just by the WiFi only models and use my phones hotspot for connection. It’s not as fast and a little pain but since I don’t need the connection on my iPad that often it’s better than paying the extra costs.

[@CristhianTR]

Nice video, I have an M1 iPad 2021 - and I was wondering if does it worth the money to upgrade to the latest model - the answer is no.

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah unless you have a use case that really needs the nanotexture screen or extra pencil controls. I’d say it’s a pass from the M1 models.

[@sigiligus]

I don’t know if it’s the same in the US, but in Australia, the base model 13” M4 with the Magic Keyboard costs more than a base M3 MacBook Pro (which comes with double the storage, as well as a real desktop OS, multiple I/O, etc). I just don’t see why I would buy it to replace my M1 12.9” when I could by a MacBook and still have a perfectly usable iPad instead of 2 iPads, one of which makes the other one redundant.

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah there wouldn’t be a reason to buy it in your case unless you wanted to upgrade your iPad. Which isn’t a worth upgrade for your case probably.

[@premgaru8556]

God bless you brother. Please tell me is there a difference between the screen quality between the m4 iPad 11 inch and the 13 inch? When the iPad with the m1 chip came out there WAS a difference in screen quality, is it the same now? And also does the iPad 13 inch have a matte or a glossy finish?

[@TheAppleBias]

God bless you too, only difference now is the screen size. They both have the same quality displays and both can come with the nano texture screen which is more matte for an additional price, but that is also only offered on the ones with more storage space

[@ariframzan8602]

I’m looking to buy a I pad , never had one before . How many years will Apple support the M1 ? Is worth buying the m1 ? Only want it to watch films , tv shows , KZbin . As long as the picture quality and sound is loud and better .

[@TheAppleBias]

Since the M processors are so close in performance. I’d think it’d still have support for 3-5 years. It’s impossible to know for sure tho.

[@TheAppleBias]

That being said I bought mine just in March. And I returned the M4.

[@98-carlmarkmarak22]

even ipads before m1 still works well , m1 will likely last 5-7 years more , but remember obsolete doesn’t mean unusable

[@gaiustacitus4242]

While not all of the modern features of iOS (iPadOS) are available on my 2015 iPad Pro 12.9, the device still functions like new. It could still be useful, but I mainly keep it set up on the nightstand by my bed to use for reading before falling asleep.

[@pete3816]

So many words! And so little said! You didn’t mention the audio, speakers, battery life, charging times etc etc etc. You only compared 1 processor benchmark between the two! 15 minutes of nothingness.

[@TheAppleBias]

Comparing battery life of a 4 year old iPad vs a new one isn’t really that fair. I did talk about the screen a good amount since that’s a major selling point. Probably should have talked about the speakers (which are still great maybe a little less bass)

[@eddiegardner8232]

The difference in thickness is not perceivable when either unit is in a protective case. I have no use for a Terabyte size storage; use less than half of the 128 Gig base storage on my M1. I use a textured paper-ish screen protector and stainless pen tip, to get a somewhat pencil feel and some screen protection. I think the nano texture screen is worth $100, but not expanding the SSD at Apple's outrageous cost for storage. So I will stick with my M1 iPad for now; the mini-LED LCD works well enough for me. BUT if M4 were the only model that would support MacOS on it, I would upgrade. Wish the new pen would work with M1; I would buy it immediately. My 2 cents.

[@haroldkchandler]

Solid review. Covered the things I had basic questions on. Thanks.

[@TheAppleBias]

Glad to have helped! Thanks for letting me know.

[@Mrsdstry]

It does not support m1 keyboard right?

[@TheAppleBias]

Correct the magnets are different. So the old keyboard doesn’t work with the new iPad Pro and the new keyboard won’t work with the older pro iPads.

[@Mrsdstry]

@@TheAppleBias I am stuck with my M1 for a long time then but it has more power than one would need with an iPad anyway

[@TheAppleBias]

@Mrsdstry I plan to keep mine for at least another generation.

[@Jor-El-Earth1]

The special cloth thing is beyond dumb. If that screen is in danger of damage, if I gently clean it with a microfiber cloth, then it's too fragile to be out in the real world.

[@JR-ky3vp]

Thanks for the great comparison and comprehensive analysis of the two iPad models. I bought the first generation iPad Pro, with the max specs and Apple Pencil, and when the M1 iPad Pro came out, I again bought the top of the line version, 2 TB with Cellular, with the new Apple Pencil, and Magic Keyboard, so I was very interested in your review. I may hold off upgrading, as my iPad Pro is still working great. That new Apple Pencil seems pretty awesome, but unfortunately I do not have the skills to fully implement all that it has to offer.

[@TheAppleBias]

I think that’s a smart move. The new one is cool. But the M1 and M2 are still so powerful that it’s not that major of a difference. I’m hoping Apple gives us more reasons to upgrade with either software or with the next iPad release.

[@gaiustacitus4242]

I have a 2015 iPad Pro 12.9" and a M1 iPad Pro 12.9", both with max specs and both still functioning like new. My wife prefers the smaller iPads. I may purchase a new M4 iPad Pro, but what I really want is a Mac Studio M4 Ultra with max specs. Unfortunately, that isn't even on the horizon for release. Perhaps in 2025.

[@bobbydemondukes]

I went with the 13 Pro 2TB. I’m hoping it handles my daily use consisting of Email, KZbin and some light porn on the weekends. Hoping no lag or overheating issues. 🤞

[@gwvaio]

Gotta be careful some of the newer sites are using up to 15 gigs of ram 😅

[@Pesto-64]

Just get a screen protector 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gaiustacitus4242]

@@Pesto-64 "Clean up on M4"

[@Pesto-64]

@@gaiustacitus4242 🤣🤣🤣

[@jeysmoothies]

1:38 avoid holding the iPad from it’s screen you’ll create a dark spot that kills the pixels hold it from the bezel.

[@teddysurf]

…im 7 minutes in…will he ever get to how these two perform next to each other…? Christ, this guy can talk about nothing….

[@bikechiatrist]

Shocking so much talking 😅

[@teddysurf]

@@bikechiatrist yeah, shocking how much talking is not about what the video supposed to be about?… you seem smart.

[@ronbrooks6547]

Nano texture works well if you are on the front porch and sun is shining bright. Less glare

[@TheAppleBias]

true if you need to work outside with it. it works way better than a matte screen protector would

[@ksrichi]

I believe dark areas are blacker because of OLED in M4 vs Mini LED in M1. Not because of nano texture.

[@TheAppleBias]

Yes that should be the case but the nano texture takes away from the deep blacks cause it’s more of a matte screen. So you actually lose that if you get the nano texture.

[@bobbymarlene6267]

Thx, but it’s called Mini-LED. Micro is not out yet, except for Vision Pro, I think…😊

[@TheAppleBias]

Sorry 🤷‍♂️

[@bobbymarlene6267]

I liked, m4 iPad is obviously nicer because of OLED. Otherwise “who cares” for day to day users…

[@ShawnSnapp]

I upgraded from the 12.9 M1 256GB to the 13 M4 1TB. The M1 was my first time using such a large tablet so I didn’t spend too much. I needed more storage and struggled with handling the M1. The thinner frame and weight reduction combined with getting more storage is the only reason I made the upgrade. I’ll also share that I don’t use a paper-like screen protector. I use the Pen Tip 2+ replacement tip without a screen protector and love it for handwritten notes.

[@TheAppleBias]

Nice yeah storage and cellular is what is making it tempted for me to upgrade as well. I don’t think I’ll be keeping this one. The nano texture screen is cool but I think I’d rather the regular one. I’ve seen pen tips. I really need to give those a try.

[@SoSzaj]

Is one of them 8gb ram and other 16gb ram? Or both 16gb ?

[@TheAppleBias]

In this comparison the M1 has 8Gbs and the M4 has 16Gbs

[@randolphvail3346]

Dude! You miss really simple tests that could help us like 1.) shut them off and check the start up tine. 2.) How about some processor intensive activity like a modified video that saved that's 45 minutes long. How long does it take to process it? You know things like this could really help us see the speed difference and I'm sure there's other test that could be done as well

[@jimtipton8888]

I bit the bullet and upgraded the 11 M2 to the 11 M4. Just for the display alone it was worth it. The screen side camera placement and the new MKB were also a bonus. Jury is out on the pencil. Looking forward to the Tandem OLED screen coming to the MBP.

[@TheAppleBias]

Nice. I am always on the side of if it make you happy and you got the money then it’s worth the upgrade. If I could use the iPad more for day to day work I would always be upgrading it.

[@TheAppleBias]

Also kinda curious what all you do on the iPad since you got the 11in and the Magic Keyboard? I’ve always found the 11in too small for the keyboard.

[@jimtipton8888]

@@TheAppleBias I’m a sales rep. Most of what I do is Mail, Messenger, Safari, Numbers, PDF expert, light photo editing, Notes, Reminders, Calendar. Some, but not all, of what I do requires multitasking. Somebody will send me an order via text or email and I’ll enter it in Safari, hence the multiple windows. Beyond that, watch KZbin, play some games, read a book. I know the M4 is way overkill for my use case, but like I said, really like the display and MKB, so worth the investment for me.

[@m4nc1n1]

I got the 11" 512GB. If you have any of the M series, it is not worth an upgrade for performance. However, one thing that is great about the M4 that people do not really talk about is the weight. It is very noticeable in hand compared to my M2, and especially my M1.

[@TheAppleBias]

See I noticed it initially, but after longer use, I don’t feel like the weight is enough of a difference to really be noticeable. But that could just be me.

[@fredbureau-russell7718]

Comparing the iPads for me while playing a multi hour AAA titled game on the M4 you definitely notice the weight difference

[@TheAppleBias]

It’s so minimal. I don’t. Play games but I usually read on it for 30mins to 1 hour at a time and never had an issue with the original during those. That being said everyone is different.

[@ricarmig]

@@TheAppleBiasif you read frequently, consider buying a e- reader instead, your eyes will thank you.

[@TheAppleBias]

@ricarmig I have a kindle paper white as well for most books. But I read devotions, the Bible and comics on the iPad.

[@ricarmig]

@@TheAppleBias cool, now there are color eink screens so even that may be good to read on such devices. Long readers should move that stuff to the eink tech. Everything else…OLED.

[@sigiligus]

“Gaming” on an iPad is the biggest meme ever. Even people who play games on Mac look down on you.

[@myrirr]

guess if you disable sleep mode on m1.. we'd expect more difference in performance?

[@TheAppleBias]

Not sure what you mean by that?

[@Paul-if1jq]

2024 is screen, M4 and camera location. I only noticed the camera....was it a massive difference, no. The Software is the biggest let down, faster chips mean nothing without the software and apps.

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah hopefully we see something new for iPad at the wwdc keynote Monday.

[@mia6776]

I’m trying to pair Apple Watch Series 4 to iPhone 13 mini and it won’t work because it says it is downloading update to watch. It’s not downloading and it won’t let me pair please help me

[@mia6776]

it has almost 100 percent battery I’ve been troubleshooting all day I can’t figure it out

[@TheAppleBias]

Hmm. That’s an odd one. You may have to take it into the Apple Store. Is there any error when pairing?

[@gaiustacitus4242]

I've had the same problem. The solution involves a factory reset of the watch, and it may take several attempts (as it did with mine).

[@Mega7607]

Great video! The new Magic Keyboard is amazing also! For me the Magic Keyboard changes the iPad on so many levels. If I didn’t have the MK it would probably cut my usage by 50%!

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah I may do a video just on it still debating. But it is super nice and a great upgrade from the previous one.

[@stevenrobertson4190]

So may I ask what is better about the new Magic Keyboard? Are you comparing it to the previous Apple Magic Keyboard?

[@Mega7607]

@@stevenrobertson4190 in general having the Magic Keyboard it change’s the iPad majorly! I did have the original Magic Keyboard as well, main difference I would say is having the function keys at the top!

[@Daniel79150]

4:07 Not to be confused with mini-LED, micro-LEDs are even tinier, and offer a much bigger change to TV technology. Current micro-LED sizes are as small as 50μm - about 0.002 inches across - making them 1/100th the size of a conventional LED. That's just about small enough to serve as a single pixel in conventional TV sizes and resolutions, and that's where micro-LED gets really interesting. If mini-LEDs provide a refinement on the existing LCD backlight, micro-LED promises to be more revolutionary, offering a technology that can go head to head with OLED and win, with better brightness and more vivid color. The iPad is equipped with mini LEDs, not micro LEDs. This youtuber is confused with this.

[@devinegamingtv3427]

Does the nano texture screen wear down the pencil tip faster? I remember jerryrig's mohs pick was actually filing down from the screen and that is metal.

[@TheAppleBias]

It’s very slightly rougher but I am sure it will wear down the tip faster than the plan glass would.

[@andyH_England]

Because the M1 & M2 iPad Pro 11 never had miniLED, I could easily recommend selling them for a down payment on an OLED M4 11-inch. Otherwise, if you use your iPad Pro like I do, just as a giant iPhone with tablet features, then M1 and M2, although technically inferior, will still be good for another 18 months. Apple's problem is that for years, they have been the King of tablet performance, with the M1 still comparable with 2024 Android tablets. By giving consumers headroom and future-proofing, Apple has longer upgrade cycles. Hence, Apple's creep in price means that higher prices can regulate sales loss. Although more expensive, consumers can see the value as they last longer. I have a three-year-old M1 iPad Pro and expect to keep that for six years, and even in that sixth year, it will still be relevant against the best Android has. The M4 is even more so!

[@TheAppleBias]

Fully agree. Apple’s hardware is just so powerful that upgrading it is always a harder decision when it comes to the iPad. I still hope they figure out a way to better utilize all that hardware with some better software this year.

[@ricarmig]

You forget one HUGE thing: Android tablets for years have most needed desktop functions: from the file system to multi windows to easy WiFi direct file sharing (between brands) and even desktop like modes (DeX for example). Even if the raw power isn’t as powerful as the equivalent iPads, they have enough power AND allow you to really do some work. To wrap up: even if Qualcomm chips aren’t as powerful as Apple’s , Android and windows ARM allow you to do anything; iPadOS and even macOS…it’s not like that.

[@TheAppleBias]

@ricarmig but who wants to use an android tablet 😝

[@andyH_England]

@@ricarmig Most people buying tablets use a pen or as a consumption device. It is a tiny niche community that wants the stuff you claim is important for tablets. They are not for the vast majority. That is why in the premium tablet market, Apple owns it and why they have sold around 600 million iPads in ten years. I get it for you, but the reality is that most of us are happy with what iPads do, and the same goes for macOS.

[@Lvnaticify]

18 months? I have an M1 Pro 12.9” with 1tb and 5g and I’ll probably use it for 5 more years comfortably without missing anything the newer models would bring. The m4 is pretty much the exact same thing, just slightly thinner and a very slightly better display. Apple literally had to limit the new accessories to the new model so people would be more tempted to buy it, because in day to day usage there’s almost zero difference.

[@studiovitta]

I will still use my M1 Pro the only thing I wish to have is the new screen

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah I like the new keyboard. But it’s not worth the $$$$ at least not yet. Maybe after some discounts.

[@alexsherel3344]

What if you don’t use the cloth? What if you just use your shirtsleeve.?

[@TheAppleBias]

I know right I do that all the time. I tried it. It seemed okay. But still probably not recommended. Which is another reason why I would just skip the nano texture.

[@alexsherel3344]

@@TheAppleBias I work at car wash. Soft cloth, but it’s car after car. Car MFG say never use them. Thousands thousands of people use them. Almost everyone. Same thing…cars still look good

[@emiel333]

Great 👍 video. I’ve subscribed.

[@TheAppleBias]

Thanks for the sub, great to have you apart. Never hesitate to reach out with any questions or thoughts.

[@emiel333]

@@TheAppleBias You’re welcome. If I have any questions I will certainly ask them.

[@curiouspeople6441]

I rather have a longer battery life iPad

[@TheAppleBias]

They do last a good while. But I agree longer the battery the better.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

There are rumors about an iPad Ultra, so they just made this device for those, who use it for work mostly (8 hours a day, for that this battery is fine, especially if you need to hold in your hand in that 8 hours)

[@Willymaze]

but some reviewers are saying that it has indeed longer battery life. The M4 is really efficient.

[@c-note4146]

Dark room, dark screen, white letters…does it bloom?

[@8TrillionViews]

Which size MacBook Pro are you using? From the looks , it looks like 14 inch!

[@TheAppleBias]

It’s the 16in

[@freshprinz9829]

To be fair, the comparison with the screens which shine best in HDR not so much SDR cause I think you just tested it with a standard video but not the HDR content we should see a difference between the two

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah I wasn’t really trying to show that off. Because imo that never shows up well on video. So I went for the showing the nanotexture color and blacks with the older displays blacks.

[@HatimHaffari-n9w]

Look at the light reflexion, it’s seems like the M4 absorbed light 😮

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah it’s pretty crazy the way the nano texture display works. If your someone that has to work outside with the iPad and your not worried about the device getting scratched. It would be the way to go.

[@HatimHaffari-n9w]

@@TheAppleBias absolutely 🫡

[@PiterburgCowboy]

The greatest feature of the Ipad is Apple convincing consumers into believing you can use this as a laptop for 4 generations. You have the processing power do to whatever you want, but you can't. Some overenthusiastic hack will praise the next iteration as the dragon Apple made you chase. 10/10 device really.

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah I think a lot of of just think it would make an amazing computer, but Apple has truly always said publicly they are different devices. For some people they can use it as their main computer, but for most it just doesn't cut it.

[@darfenix45]

Finally a good comparison. Some ppl compare the 11 m1 vs 11 m4, and its not brainer went something got the oled display. but comparing m1 mini led vs m4 oled its practically good

[@TheAppleBias]

Glad you liked it. I think all comparisons can be worth it for someone to see.

[@samsudinahmad]

If only the new keyboard was backward compatible it would be awesome. But Apple is just being Apple. Still considering the one with the nano screen but it suddenly got me thinking whether I will need to put a screen protector or whether can I. Ian’s does it also means that it can get scratch up if I can’t. Most of my iPads are on some form of screen protector just as a precautionary measure. Excellent and honest review of the the M1 vs M4. Good job and thank you.

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah the iPad has been the one device I put a screen protector on since the iPad 2. It just has so much scratch-able glass on it. With the changes in thickness there was just no way for the new keyboard to close fully which is probably why they changed up the layout of the magnets.

[@samsudinahmad]

@@TheAppleBias with the nano screen, I reckon a screen protector is no longer needed as putting another layer on a Matt screen will definitely worsen it. So I reckon you will be using it naked with no screen protector?

[@TheAppleBias]

@samsudinahmad yeah putting a screen protector on it would defeat the purpose of the extra $100 spent.

[@efrenagustin2520]

I noticed m4 has quite thinner bezels

[@TheAppleBias]

That allowed it to go from. 12.9in to 13 in screen overall size seemed to be the same.

[@flyingcheesecake3725]

cool, but i probably won't replace my 12.9 m1 ipad till they release a 1nm process chip

[@gaiustacitus4242]

You may be waiting for decades, then. Each 0.5 nm reduction in the die size becomes increasingly more difficult. There is a point at which further reduction becomes impossible due to thermal expansion during operation.

[@flyingcheesecake3725]

@@gaiustacitus4242 i see. Well ill upgrade a few years later then

[@TheAppleBias]

My goal is probably to buy the M4 in a year when I can get a good discount on it.

[@justmy2pesos]

Hey Brian, Excellent review as usual! I think that the amazing new screen does not justify the upgrade. If you are only buying the Pro for the first time go for it, otherwise stay with an M1. The nano kills some of the resolution and forces you to carry the Apple cloth if you travel. Just my 2 cents, or better said, my 2 pesos!

[@TheAppleBias]

Ha great one. And fully agree. Also just wanted to say thanks again for watching the content and comments. Means a ton.

[@justmy2pesos]

@@TheAppleBias Brian, I am the one who thanks you! Yours is the friendliest channel!

[@Sozialkompetenz]

Slap a screen protector on it and the nano texture is going byebye…😅

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah that another big issue. There is no keeping it protected. So if your a screen protector person your out of luck with it.

[@LDRep]

i think why fcp on mac can render on a shorter time compare to m4 because it's OS.. MacOS > iPadOS

[@petrnovotny9073]

thank you just purchased the atropad to have paper like experience 🎉

[@TheAppleBias]

Awesome! Be sure to let me know what you think about it once you get it. I seriously love mine and pretty much just keep it on the device the entire time.

[@AdamIverson]

You know, I have to give Apple a credit. At least, that iPad doesn't have a notch, compared to their Macbook and iPhone. Now, if only they can run MacOS app and any 3rd party app if needed, this would be a perfect tablet.

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah. And it has Face ID. I would love macOS app on the iPad but more so I think a Mac with Face ID and cellular would be ideal.

[@TokyoNeko8]

M1Max comparison is a bit off because M1Max has 30 GPU cores while M4 only 1/3 of the GPUs even if newer, it can’t compete in the GPU heavy apps.

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah. But I still thought the data would be relevant for anyone like me who dreams of eventually trying to go iPad Pro only again.

[@shazamcawdwell3426]

Whats the best ipad for my child

[@TheAppleBias]

Depends, how old are they and what do they plan to use it for?

[@shazamcawdwell3426]

@@TheAppleBias youtube thats all

[@TheAppleBias]

iPad mini is great for kids. Buying used or refurbished is also a great idea. The 5th gen mini will still be able to get the new iPadOS as well.

[@shazamcawdwell3426]

@@TheAppleBias thank you so much

[@TheAppleBias]

Happy to help.

[@mchestnut1970]

The limits of IPADOS i learned from when we were promised so much with the M1 iPads,,,now in Apple style they keep bragging of the power but don’t use any of it, maybe a couple of gimmicks with the pencil, or that its thinner. My M1 is always connected to the Magic Keyboard and there isn’t anything that i need the M4 for. So thanks apple for helping me make the decision to not upgrade, yet once again.

[@TheAppleBias]

But it is kind of nice to have a device that doesn’t require you to upgrade it every release cycle.

[@ricfrye6644]

Definitely not a fair comparison. The M4 with the 1tb has more ram

[@TheAppleBias]

the fact that with the lesser processor and half the ram it still competed well with it is still good to know.

[@syn010110]

this is not a great comparison, you're comparing 16GB of RAM to 8

[@TheAppleBias]

I understand that. Which makes the results even more interesting in my opinion. It’s like comparing an older base model with a top of the line new model.

[@akoshufi]

For those who want to play pc games on it the M4 makes big difference compare to M1.

[@TheAppleBias]

Good to know. What's your favorite games to play on the iPad?

[@CJ-Tech76]

Thanks but this is not a good comparison, most people including myself usually purchases the base model, especially since iPads costs a lot more than a Mac Book Pro/Air and iPads are lacking in a lot other ways.

[@TheAppleBias]

This is like comparing a base level m1 to a near top of the line m4. The comparison still stands useful. Even if it wouldn’t be the one you would buy. The information should still help you decide.

[@jeysmoothies]

4:19 that didn’t make any sense 4:24

[@angel23138]

Nice timestamps 👌🏻👌🏻

[@TheAppleBias]

I try sometimes they can be annoying, but I know they are helpful

[@jeysmoothies]

Decent video but definitely work on getting better equipment to record more high quality content

[@TheAppleBias]

Thanks I think. I have gotten a night light since then and moved them all around to better locations. To prevent glare a much as possible. But in this case it did show off the nano-texture

[@THEG12EG]

Nothing special about that cloth. A good quality glasses cloth would be fine

[@jeremy31678]

Jump to 3:35 for the reason you're here.

[@YourvitamineD]

I was planning to buy the ipad pro m2, since it's much better than the air m2. But after watched this video, I'll consider the ipad pro M1.

[@TheAppleBias]

It’s a great iPad!

[@DeeCee-nb6ev]

I went from the A series iPad Pro 12.9 to the M1 and there is a noticeable performance jump. Made the switch around the time of the M2 iPad Pro so i got a pristine refurb M1 with 1TB and 5G for half the price of the of the new M2 equivalent. I could have remained with the old A series as its rare i ever tax the device as its just a home device for mainly everyday stuff. Absolutely pointless upgrading to an M4 as a similar spec here in the uk along with Magic Keyboard and pencil is pushing £3000!!!

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah the price on the m4 is just crazy. Really hard to justify.

[@KrutGemByte]

Dream ipad is m1. I’ll get it soon

[@TheAppleBias]

It’s an amazing product.

[@apfelgeschichten]

hallo , ich habe den Schritt gewagt von M1 11" auf M4 11" beide in der Basisversion , mini LED zu Oled sind minimal und Nanotextur war für mich nicht wichtig , aber die Geschwindigkeit und geringere Responszeit bei der Pencil Eingabe sowie die schnelle Installation von App updates sind der Wahnsinn . Insgesamt genug um ein Upgrade zu rechtfertigen.

[@totoys1573]

with that nano tech screen or screen protector…be ready to invest on apple pen tips too…as these screens are too rough that it could erase ur pen tips too😅

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah matte screen protectors do that too. That’s why I really like the rock paper pencil. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3nCdYSJgs16nM0si=_dfr479V9g0y_9BT

[@jumpindetox77]

My M1 12,9 2021 handle Mirage without a crash comparing to the M4 and when you remember that M2 and M3 exist in between, no worth extra money for usual even video editing

[@superfly4137]

Video editing software is the only benchmark in the real world most people compare. So if your not a video editor 🤷‍♂️

[@TheAppleBias]

When it comes to the iPad. It’s one of the easiest that fit the last amount of people and still be informative for those that aren’t. Curious what do you do on the iPad that you would have liked to see compared so I know for next time.

[@superfly4137]

@@TheAppleBias gaming. I love gaming, i hope to see more games like call of duty, resident evil, Fortnite etc etc. don’t get me wrong im not knocking u for benchmarking via video editing sofrware. I just like to see the ipadOS and become much more than a desktop, laptop, mobile phone can be because i always on the go so i love portable stuff

[@cchung3311]

M2 iPad will not update on good 5g (on 3 Network) iPhone signal - my Samsung S6 lite updates even on sleep and not even on. iPad OS is garbage - the most fundamental thing to update iPadOS via a means of a strong 5g signal is sadly lacking.

[@jcreaper137]

Y’all don’t understand the subtle hints app,e is giving here

[@TheAppleBias]

I want to hear more of your thoughts.

[@ThaexakaMavro]

Do y'all hear yourself much thinner ?

[@TheAppleBias]

I know it's crazy but when you have them in your hand it feels a lot thinner. But I think I also stated in the video that is something you'd probably get used to fairly quickly.

[@jamesbullo]

You're also comparing 8GB to 16GB of RAM.

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah I know. I probably should have said that. A lot seem to thing that defeats the purpose but I think comparing m1 base vs nearly top of the line m4 is a great comparison

[@THEG12EG]

Not worth the upgrade if you have. MX iPad

[@xaratemplate]

Wwdc 2024 just made the m4 ipads less valuable. A nothing burger!

[@TheAppleBias]

Not sure if I’d say less valuable. But didn’t really make it any more valuable.

[@KEANUWHITE]

I love truth tellers

[@simpromovie]

After looking at the iPP M4 reviews my conclusion was to upgrade my 2. Gen 12.9 iPP (iPadOS 18 will no longer support this iPad Pro) to the M1 iPP 12.9! I am doing all my video and photo work on my iMac or MacBook if I have to (I am not a KZbinr, so that is not so often). If I need to edit and write text on a more intense level I am doing that on MacOS too. Because of that I did not even buy the Magic Keyboard. It make no sense to me to make a second class laptop out of a fist class tablet! I am using the iPad as is was intended from Steve Jobs ("The iPad is third device in addition to the iPhone and the Mac, no replacement!") The M1 iPP costs about halve the money of the M4! It even has some advantages to me like the SIM slot and the second camera, that I find occasionally useful. The M1 on iPadOS is more than powerful enough for my kind of tasks. I gave up the idea of using the iPad as a laptop several years ago. Even with MacOS it will be a worse laptop than my really great MacBook Air 15". This 15" laptop is the perfect addition than to the iPP and these two devices cost not more than a fully equipped M4 iPP...

[@TheAppleBias]

Even tho sometimes I want to replace my laptop with the iPad I agree. Also if you are looking for a great case for the iPad this is the one I use daily and love! collabs.shop/rfwlma

[@rhakacharles271]

The cloth explanation negated all your credibility. Sounded like you were trying to sell the Brooklyn Bridge. Stop watching.

[@TheAppleBias]

How's that? I was just repeating what apple said. I wasn't trying to sell the cloths

[@JK-pl6bh]

Too bad Apple hobbles the iPad Pro with weak software. Once Apple pulls its head out of it arse and gives us the proper software for the iPad, stick with a lower grade iPad and buy a decent MacBook.

[@TheAppleBias]

Yeah was hoping to see more from iPadOS 18 but sadly same old same old.

[@alexsherel3344]

IpadOS is fine.

[@marcust123]

Just get a m1 pro does 99z percent the same

[@TheAppleBias]

I wouldn’t go that far. The M4 has some nice upgrades over the M1. But it comes with a price tag that people just need to decide if it’s worth it to them.

[@amaranthjearadisak1219]

I bought m2 before the new one came out fk

[@fredbureau-russell7718]

Every day, Apple pro just released a video and his videos work in pictures in picture but your videos don’t work in picture and picture

[@TheAppleBias]

I don’t do anything to stop Picture in Picture from working. I don’t think any KZbinr has control over that. I know KZbin for mobile makes it a premium user feature at least they used too.

[@Mega7607]

My Picture in Picture works just fine!

[@TokyoNeko8]

It’s your own setting. PIP works fine.

[@JamesGowan]

✝️ Subbed & Liked! Great VID! God bless in 2024! ✝️

[@TheAppleBias]

Thank you so much! Means a lot.

[@marcodimario9918]

This is a total NON SENSE comparison! You cannot compare two models so different, both in ram and ssd department! In the iPadOS world 8gb vs 16gb of ram makes HUGE difference, from a performance standpoint. Especially when we talk about professional workflows. If, instead, we talk about simple/medium generic workflows, than no one need and iPad pro because all the common tasks can be perfectly accomplished with a bare iPad 9/10 gen.

[@TheAppleBias]

Yes the ram and hard drive are different. It’s not a nonsense comparison. This is the same as comparing a base model m1 mac to an upgraded m3 Mac. There is always information to be learned on any comparison. In this case yes the M4 is going to be faster. It probably will also beat the M1 with 1TB and 16gb ram model as well. But the time it takes between those are most likely less. It’s all about time savings. And I showed the results of these 2 devices. Which is a legit comparison.

[@marcodimario9918]

@@TheAppleBias Sorry, nothing personal, of course. But I rewatched your whole video and still think the comparison makes no sense. When we talk about the iPad Pro, we need to test the features that matter to iPad Pro buyers, usually professionals who use it for creating content (2D/3D graphics, music, design, illustrations, etc.). Talking about the iPad Pro and only showing basic, generic use doesn't make sense. For that kind of use, regular iPads exist.

[@jeffsancricca7041]

@@marcodimario9918I agree , how much more are spending on the M4 with all the upgrades. Especially comparing to a basic entry level M1. He should have just done a review of the M4. I would have really liked to see a base model vs base model comparison.

[@gwvaio]

Ram doesn’t matter on iPadOS, it’s just a grid of icons next to a grid of icons. 16gbs of ram isn’t doing anything with that.

[@jeffsancricca7041]

@@gwvaio it’s not just the RAM, it’s the extra performance core on the non-binned M4 chip. RAM comes into play when multitasking, the current IPad OS allows up to 12Gb for that. It used to be capped at 6.

[@JavierArochoVega]

It doesn’t deserve to upgrade from an M1 Pro…. It will still a lot of poorer for more than any power hungry apps available!!! It’s a waste of money

[@TheAppleBias]

For most yeah not worth the upgrade. But there are some people out there the some of the new items makes it worth it. Just not the majority

[@chrisbrown-lx7qz]

@@TheAppleBiasim just gonna keep on usin my 11 inch iPad Pro M1 as long it still good to watch all my free favorite movies tv show UFC and KZbin its all good to me I’ll probably upgraded it to iPad Pro M4 next year 🇺🇸

[@TheAppleBias]

@chrisbrown-lx7qz smart move

[@mousec2600]

I'm so sick of these hand divas.

[@TheAppleBias]

I'm sorry. I can't help but move my hand when I talk been like that all my life. Sad thing is, is that I actually try to minimize it in the videos 🤷‍♂️