M104 Timing Setup | Mercedes M104 Turbo | Tutorial

How to set your timing up on a M104 engine, in this particular video we will go through every step you need to do when mounting your cylinder head and everything regarding timing and camshafts.
The engine we have in the video is a M104.992 and it is a 3.2L, note that the timing setup might differ from some other models of the M104 engine.
If you have any questions or opinions let me know below and I will answer them as well as I can.
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[@weneakhborzable]

Keep these videos coming. Now I am worried if my mechanic rotated the intake cam clock wise before installing!!!

[@TeamLovetap]

Will do man! Hard to describe without video but it should be done as in the video🙌🏻

[@vitoivanich3193]

you are the first who normally told about the upgrade, cool

[@TeamLovetap]

vito ivanich you mean the headgasket?

[@ahmadabdullahi1992]

Thanks alot. Ever since I replace my w 140 with m-104 engine head gasket I got total engine lost power especially when I use AC high fuel consumption and the overheating but as I watch that your video I discovered that I made a wrong camshaft timing and I correct it everything is normal now

[@TeamLovetap]

Thats great to hear that it helped you! This is the reason i made it 🥰

[@nMURKv]

Thanks for the video. Finally starting to re-assemble my m104 and this is very useful information

[@TeamLovetap]

Good to hear man

[@myvideotablemyvideotable528]

very helpful. my timing chain jumped, though its not mercedes but this video helped me learn a lot and fix the issue.

[@TeamLovetap]

Glad to hear man! Best of luck

[@hknbnz6143]

Auf dem Stirndeckel gibt es einen Stift zum fixieren der Gleitschienen, die kann man nach außen herausschrauben. Wenn man den vorher rausholt, kann man den Stirndeckel wesentlich besser ansetzen. Nur als tipp. Den Stift im nachhinein natürlich wieder einbauen.

[@TeamLovetap]

Yeah I have seen this as well, might try it sometime 🙏🏻

[@Endless_Trifecta]

Great video, Thanks for the how to!

[@TeamLovetap]

Good that you had use of it🙏🏻

[@dawdsawffsa1186]

Much appreciated knowledge, thank you!

[@TeamLovetap]

dawds awffsa good to hear! Then it was worth my time 🙌🏻

[@yellowjoe.2000]

That was very informative. Thank you

[@yevgeniyprotsenko9500]

Thank you for this video, it is very helpful for my build

[@TeamLovetap]

Good to hear!

[@kukuhsaworo5882]

excellent tutorial

[@TeamLovetap]

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[@marwanmabrook5892]

Thank you so much, very clear and helpful God bless you, unless you're atheist then science bless you.

[@TeamLovetap]

Haha glad i helped you🙌🏻

[@mr.Bruutt]

nice one! i never knew you should loosen the headbolts first and retorque it ( after engine had run )

[@TeamLovetap]

BRUUTT!! Yeah it is very common to do it, because everything moves a bit after a heatcycle. But make sure you wait until the day after so its completly cold

[@luisalviso4798]

me sirvió de mucho este trabajo este video gracias!! thank you

[@dannoi]

Amazing video tutorial ! love the step by step and commentary !

[@TeamLovetap]

Glad it helped you!

[@Aboody2hotty]

Hello When I connect the camshaft sensor my engine stops Can anyone tell me the reasons

[@jeanpondemer2236]

Amazing video! Super clean! Just had one question do u regularly use the vvt system with the car or run it fixed cam? Thanks love the car btw :)

[@TeamLovetap]

Thank u! I always use it, i think we activate it at 2500 and release it at 5500rpm :)

[@waibelkarl6153]

Merci pour les info moteur m104 est indestructible ❤

[@TeamLovetap]

Je vous en prie 🤌🏻

[@diarmaidmclaughlin5089]

Thanks for the video!

[@TeamLovetap]

Diarmaid McLaughlin your welcome man! Hope it helps

[@bejankhachapuridze4132]

How many degrees should be cranckshaft after rotating ?

[@christianbarahona2789]

Excelente 💪💪👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@TeamLovetap]

Thank u!

[@luisalbertoyoveraalburqueq3992]

Disculpen quiero saber si la culata de este mercedes se podría cepillar o es estandar de una sola vida

[@TeamLovetap]

English please

[@Jockewiie]

Sjukt bra guide måste jag säga ! :) har dock 2 frågor 1 varför roterar du motorn till 30grader sen tillbaka när du monterar ? 2 vad har hänt med ditt grenrör (offtopic) :D?

[@TeamLovetap]

Tackar! 1. Vid 30 grader så kan man rotera kamaxlarna fritt utan o ta i någonting. 2. Grenrörets coating har släppt pga nån kemisk reaktion till waterwettern

[@isaiahbrooks1462]

Good stuff, I love it! I'd turbo my M104.995, but i get lost when it comes to what to use for tuning. What are you using? Diff between .992 and .995?

[@TeamLovetap]

Isaiah Brooks thanks man, you mean what ecu I am using? The difference is that most .992 has oil nozzles for the pistons when most .995 dont have it.

[@omalakastisgitonias]

hi there, this was quite the video i was looking for. now i found a m104 engine, 3.2lt with manual trans, driveshaft and diff for dirt cheap and i was wondering, will this fit into a w208? i was thinking a single turbo, aftermarket ecu and injectors, but everything else stock, like pistons etc. does anyone know how much abuse (safe hp always though) these things can handle stock?

[@TeamLovetap]

Teo Jeo check out our playlist hammer and spanner episode 6-7 for more info about the engines. I would say 500 whp is pretty safe if you have it tuned well. Dont know if the w208 has front or rear oilsump, my w209 has rear sump so either you buy a rearsump setup or go drysump like i did

[@mystxbr]

Man I am building a Turbo M104 here aswell and I am installing a standalone ECU. Do you happen to know which teeth the trigger wheel is aligned with the #1 cylinder TDC. I have a later model M104 with stock 60-2 trigger wheel here.

[@TeamLovetap]

I domt use the stock trigger so I dont know unfortunately 🙃

[@vishnukalainesan]

Hi there I'm about to mount the cylinder head on my m104 2.8L motor. Is it really necessary to re torque the bolts as I've done numerous head installations and none required me to do so. Thank u so much

[@TeamLovetap]

Vishnu Vardhan Kalainesan It is of course my opinion that you should do it but there are probably as many people who say its not necessary to do so. But i think it sounds pretty reasonable to retorque it after a heatcycle when the material in the gasket has changed a bit

[@mervanglogic5560]

Opinion on the 2.8 m104 engine and how far a horse with a turbo can reach.

[@TeamLovetap]

I like the 2.8L and i think it can go to around 550whp on stock, maybe 750 whp with forged rods and more with pistons 🙏🏻

[@yl7277]

This is a super clean and informative video. I wonder where can I buy the head bolts? And how are the head bolts (studs?) different from the ones that came off of the car?

[@TeamLovetap]

Thank u man, you can buy arp studs for the bmw m30b35🙌🏻 yes they are different from stock

[@yl7277]

@@TeamLovetap Ahh this is my first reply received on KZbin. Thank you for replying. Quick one: What is the benefit of using the ARP studs? Btw I am also a huge Volvo fan and would love to visit Sweden soon!

[@TeamLovetap]

@@yl7277 anytime bro, the benefit it that they can be tighten harder which puts bigger pressure on the headgasket which makes it withstand more power. Also good to reuse because they are studs instead of bolts

[@yl7277]

@@TeamLovetap Amazing! Thank you Team Lovetap!

[@Mayo-tq4qb]

This is a great video word for word step by step ! Would this process apply to the M104.941 out of my 94’ c280?

[@TeamLovetap]

It should be the same yes 👌🏻

[@hakkozdogan8675]

How about a m104.98x , 24 valve one? Ke jetronic

[@jakecastle4426]

Thank you!! Is there a way to check if the chain tensioner is still within factory spec? Mine is OE with 150k miles. Lol reuse or not to reuse?

[@TeamLovetap]

jake castle should not be a problem ✊🏻

[@TTURBOVOLVO]

Do you recommend these m30 arp studs over what turbobandit sells?

[@TeamLovetap]

Yes I do

[@BanglaDeszcz]

And that Clarckson's face XD

[@TeamLovetap]

Haha its the most liked part for sure 😅

[@drewisweirdTV]

When rotating the engine after resetting the timing and setting the tensioner, how much force did it take you? I am building a new engine and it feels awfully tight after I set the tensioner. Much tighter than any other engine I have spun over by hand. I am concerned that something is wrong but when I remove the tensioner it spins easy. Any tips? Thanks!

[@TeamLovetap]

Did u reset the tensioner? Push the actuator through completly and then insert it from the back until the first click?

[@drewisweirdTV]

Yup. Tensioner was brand new as well as the chain and guides. Just measured with a torque wrench and it takes about 70-75nm to spin the engine.

[@TeamLovetap]

@@drewisweirdTV ok, thats really hard to say.. but no sparkplugs in? Made sure the chain is centered on the guide? (Not on the guide edge? Easy to happen) can u move the chain up and down between the camshafts?

[@drewisweirdTV]

No plugs in, chain is centered and everything is lubricated. I’m going to double check the torque on my camshaft caps to make sure they are not over torqued (borrowing a friends digital torque wrench) but I don’t think that would significantly affect rotating force. There is no play at all in the chain once I set the tensioner.

[@TeamLovetap]

@@drewisweirdTV that wouldnt affect it so hard, but check the video at 10:10 and see if the chain is moving like I am showing in the video?

[@XvS6-Lemaza]

Great video, thanks. What is the torque value on the upper timing cover?

[@TeamLovetap]

Thank you man, 21nm i believe🙌🏻

[@XvS6-Lemaza]

@@TeamLovetap wonderful method for installing that green gasket.

[@TeamLovetap]

@@XvS6-Lemaza yeah it can be a tough one

[@TheCB1359]

Wow...I replaced the timing cover gasket and then started the engine, heard a noise in the upper engine and cracked the cam gear shaft on the intake cam....what did I do wrong ?

[@TeamLovetap]

Very hard to say, but did u reset the chain tensioner?

[@TheCB1359]

@@TeamLovetap I have not touched it. I don't recall doing anything to the timing chain when removing the cover and associated parts

[@luckystarstravel]

Are all the 300 sl cars just terribly weak. I just got a one owner 60K Immaculate car but it is just terribly slow. Is it just me or the 300 sl engines ? Thanks

[@TeamLovetap]

Is it an m104 engine in that sl?

[@ALXG]

Amazing job! Where did you get those torque specs for the head studs? Also do they apply to the head bolts if you use them instead of studs?

[@TeamLovetap]

Thank u! The specs are supplied by the manufacturer of the studs (ARP) the stock bolts have a different spec

[@Jockewiie]

Varför kör ni m30b35 bultar arp istället för arp till m104 som ppf säljer ? :) tänkte om de va någon speciell anledning :)

[@TeamLovetap]

Jockewiie ppf säljer m30b35 ompackat med andra brickor o märker det som m104, folk från andra länder har lättare o köpa m30b35

[@Jockewiie]

Team Lovetap jaaha okej så de är till m30b35 dom säljer egentligen men bara satt brickor för m104 :)

[@Jockewiie]

Team Lovetap vad tror du om turbobandits vanliga insex 12.9 bult som han säljer ? Tänkte dom kostar ju bara 1/3 av arp :) ?

[@TeamLovetap]

Jockewiie jag gillar arp bulten för de är beprövat och de är pinnbult istället för rena bultar, är därför lite snällare mot blocket vid flertslet omdragningar

[@lidenengineering9618]

@@Jockewiie Ska du köra 12.9 så är det billigare att åka till närmsta Swedol och beställa M12 160mm 1 låda :) betalade 630 SEK för 25st (1pkt)

[@carsxarexhard4504]

My timing cover doesn’t have a mark ?

[@TeamLovetap]

Then u probably have another way to zero out the engine, only came across this way though

[@carsxarexhard4504]

@@TeamLovetap it does have the marker I just found it , it’s a separate piece you have to act attach it with a 10mm bolt.

[@taratan397]

What transmission you're using for this beast?

[@TeamLovetap]

Im using the tex racing T101a dogbox, check out my playlist called hammer & spanner for more info about the entire car

[@geraldmagadzire3531]

Like Google on timing marks u fast

[@MrController18]

Hi, Did you use ARP 201-4602? Thanks!

[@TeamLovetap]

Yes its correct but with different washers

[@MrController18]

@@TeamLovetap Was that to take up the difference of the 3mm head gasket?

[@TeamLovetap]

MrController18 no its just that the m30 washers are to big

[@jonbirgersende7498]

@@TeamLovetap Which washers to use? Considering buying these bolts for my future turbo-build

[@jamesmcgregor2665]

@@TeamLovetap what washers do you use?

[@vitoivanich3193]

where did you buy the head gasket? Thanks !!!!!!!!

[@TeamLovetap]

vito ivanich i bought this from a guy in Norway, my usual dealer seems to have stop to answer so this might be the last gasket

[@jakecastle4426]

@@TeamLovetap thats not good news for anybody with this engine.

[@biopump2000]

why the head bolts are need to be retorqued ?

[@TeamLovetap]

Because the tension changes abit after the first heat cycle, thats why we retourqe it to make sure it hasnt lost pressure on the gasket

[@biopump2000]

@@TeamLovetap Thank you for the response. I'm going to replace head gasket on M104 but just regular one not like your enforced engine. Do you recommend to retorque in my situation?

[@TeamLovetap]

@@biopump2000 yes i do, run it up to running temps and let it sit for a while, then let it cool to the next day and retourque it

[@forzer45]

Can i change the gasket without taking the camshafts off?

[@TeamLovetap]

It might be possible but it wouldnt be worth it, risk damaging the head and the valves

[@forzer45]

@@TeamLovetap Thanks for the info and quick reply :)

[@bernardwarr4187]

Are you using standard cams or re profiled ?

[@TeamLovetap]

Standard cams out of the 3.2L m104.992

[@bernardwarr4187]

@@TeamLovetap that’s incredible. Do you like more lift? It’s amazing, I would think more overlap would give more efficiency?

[@TeamLovetap]

@@bernardwarr4187 still havent dived into the cylinderhead that much, but Im eager to learn about it so we are workin on it soon

[@brianmilligan1787]

Music is not helpful And neither is the video Try guess why

[@TeamLovetap]

Haha I have no idea why