M109r Purchasing Mistakes. Watch before buying.

[@cfiance]

I bought a brand new at the time m109r. First modifications I did was the freedom exhaust and force winder air filters. What I did was get a tune after so that bike runs most efficiently with the new parts. Maybe that's what your bike needs. Cheers!!

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Sorry for the late response. You did it the right way. I bought mine with the pipes and air filter system on it. I was supposed to have it tuned and Dyno but the local shop closed. I don’t believe in sending a computer out. Every engine is different. Some people are fine with it but i want to see graph and numbers. Thanks for the comment and watching.

[@louieavi]

Yeah I saw your video when I was just curious about buying a m109r. Now that I purchased and came across your video a second time, you make much more sense. I did purchase a m109r 2017 with 20k miles from a dealer in AZ. The lack of historical information was a concern but I found a registration under the seat from a prior Calif owner and tracked them down. Since it was a phone call, I can only assume what he told me with a grain of salt. I give him the trust and being a done deal he has no reason not to stay truthful. My bike was all stock as Id rather not buy a modded preowned bike so in your case, your advice really matters. I still have meat on my tires but Imma about to cross the 5 year mark. Your now talking about your filters as I type and you need a sock over them to keep the rain out. Good video.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Great you got to talk to the owner. Wish I knew then what I know now. Great stuff and good luck with your M109r. Thanks for watching. Ride safe.

[@Manny_Ojeda]

I wish I was able to see this video before, I bought my M109R 3 months ago and it was showing signs that clutch needed to be replace but I did not know, I was on a road trip last week and a barely made it back to the city, now is on the shop waiting to have its new clutch install ;) Great bike by the way, love it! Thanks for your video.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

@@Manny_Ojeda Sorry about your clutch. While it’s in the shop have them check the clutch cable also. This can also be a concern. Thanks for watching. Ride safe.

[@mikepeebles]

You brought up good points. Cheers

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Thanks.

[@lukelawrence8952]

This is great. My story is the same. I was 10 years off of riding so I didn't notice the clutch was bad I did fix it myself and now it's a beast. Mine also has air intakes and a 2into 1 muffler. I bought a power commander to help with the changes.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

@@lukelawrence8952 great stuff dude. What a fun machine. Glad you’re enjoying it. Thanks for watching. Ride safe.

[@alkinsel416]

Nice Garage and a sweet Bike. thanks for the information. I’m looking to get one, I might start with a less power cruiser to start. but I want the m109r I love the look. and eventually the power. I’m a fat dude and i like sport bikes but To me i look like a bear on a scooter. i’ll be watching your garage video next. 👍🏽

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Thanks much. Sound like you’re taking the smart approach to this journey. I applaud that. Try the different Boulevard series and see what works for you. Don’t forget the classes. You’ll eventually find the size of the bike doesn’t matter. Thanks for watching.

[@tomgallier2492]

I have an 06 with almost 100k. Haven't rode much over the last couple years. The best advice I can give is to join the m109 forum. Years of knowledge can be found there. You can probably buy some socks for the intakes and rain. The second gear is an issue but I have found when shifting you have to "shift it like you mean it" from 1st to 2nd. No lazy shift from 1st to 2nd. Some say you can change the shift star to help. I've only had a few times where it didn't shift correctly. If you change the intakes and exhaust you have to get a fuel tuner or have the ecu flashed. The servo buddy lessens the engine braking a lot. Stock is like riding a bucking bronco. Really hard to ride smooth stock. If your bike is running ok it probably has a tuner under the seat or the ecu has been flashed already. If you changed the clutch yourself then swapping out the bones shouldn't be that big of a deal. Somone on the forum would probably give the stock ones to you for free. Mine is also lowered 2" and it doesn't bother me.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

All great info. I truly appreciate it. I switched the suspension back to stock years ago. The tuning I might have it done at a dyno shop. So far I have no problem with the tranny. I am not going to worry about a problem that I don’t presently have. Thank again for the info and thanks for watching.

[@alp3781]

Totally agree with you. Getting any bike from a dealer can be a bit of a challenge/risky. The 109R is a cheap bike even new. Fair price for a lot of bike.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Absolutely. Bare bones but a lot of bike. The only thing i would like on it is ABS and tire monitoring.

[@alp3781]

@@richthereturnrider6737 I just don't understand why Suzuki let that bike go and kept it old as day one. Zero improvements, updates. That's why I didn't want to get one. I had such a good deal on a one year older, but dealer new. They even wanted to give me extended coverage.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

@@alp3781 I would find it hard to buy it new with nothing much changed from 2006 or 97.

[@Mad109R]

Bought mine new in 2008 & love it, if your a shy person you might not like the attention these bikes create. 1👍

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Agree. This bike is a conversation piece. Enjoy it. Thanks for watching. Ride safe.

[@johanmuziek5761]

Like your realistic video, thanks. I own the Boss 2018 stock model. Nice garage!

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Thank you sir and Congratulations on being a proud owner of the beast. Thanks for watching

[@yourname-p7q]

Been debating if i should trade in my kawasaki vulcan 900 custom for an m109. The size of the m109 is intimidating and I'm only 5'6.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Don’t know much about the Vulcan 900 but the size of the bike should not matter. Practicing the proper riding techniques will curb your fears. It’s just another bike. Don’t judge the book by it’s cover. You can do it. Thanks for watching.

[@PaulKind3d]

nice man. good luck fulfilling your dream. Its a good one.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Thanks.

[@haythamwinchester1459]

Look I had a bike with a 160 wide tyre which already felt perfect for the bike. I can imagine a 240 sounds just about perfect for such big boney, but a 260 definitely sounds a bit much I agree. And lowering a bike like this? I don’t get it. Great content, sir. Very informative. I’ve never ever ever EVER looked at a boulevard, nor have I ever thought I’d even consider it. Not once. I always thought it’s just too much or too insane or maybe it was my “if it ain’t a Harley” tripe but this past year I’ve very quickly gotten into the idea of these amazing Japanese cruisers.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

It’s a amazing bike. Interesting perspective. I have had some folks say they feel no difference between the 240 and 260 but I have. Thanks for watching and commenting. Ride safe.

[@brianmilosevic8400]

Very nice bike The front end is incredible USD forks, radial brake calipers, win,win

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Thanks. Absolutely love it. Thanks for watching.

[@brianmilosevic8400]

@@richthereturnrider6737 I seriously want to purchase one! I'm getting a bit old and soft for sports bikes,cheers from Australia 🇦🇺

[@richthereturnrider6737]

@brianmilosevic8400 it’s a great transition from a sports bike. Just need to get a new carrier bag for my sissy bar rack.

[@stanza77]

Thanks for the insights, been researching the various clutch related issues of this model.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Your welcome, it’s not the clutch system but the transmission that still seems to be unclear of if it was ever corrected. I will be doing a video soon on this topic.

[@matthewdweber7755]

Most informative 👌 I'm considering purchasing a 2006 with 25k on it. Looks great. I will be testing 2nd gear thanks to your video.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

@@matthewdweber7755 glad this helped. Buyer beware. Thanks for watching.

[@manuelpiney7876]

Sr thanks 🙏 for sharing this with us

[@richthereturnrider6737]

It's my pleasure. I appreciate you watching.

[@tdz69]

Rich thank you. I’m researching now to get a used M109R. Looking at both private sellers and dealers. Lots of private sellers have title liens and not sure I want to deal with that. My main question is on what you touched upon with the second gear issue. You mentioned post 2010 models have not really had the issue but I’ve read on some online websites that it was never fixed. Big concern. I will have to take my time looking.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Your welcome my friend. I did a video after this one to see if I could get some more information on this issue but was not yet successful. Be careful and make sure you test ride. Thanks for watching and goof luck.

[@charlesrocks]

I fuck with this bike all day long. M109R for life. Especially the 2020+ year versions. Such a great bike.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Love the vigor and passion for the beast. Ride on brother. Ride safe.

[@laphonebooth96]

Thank you, I am a125 lbs return rider. I love this bike, still love it. Got to get a test ride.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

You ride you buy. Lol . Make it happen. It’s a thrill. Thanks for warning.

[@juans3728]

Like the video, if and when i decide to buy a used Motorcycle my first question is can i see the Title, another bike that had that issue with the gear clutch was Victory v92 where the gear would wear and skip on second gear.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Good first question. Suzuki should ve done a recall. I hope Victory did. Thanks for the info and watching.

[@Paul-g9c6m]

Have the VK2. Didn't test at speed one owner bike. 2nd gear clatter unless doubling the clutch / the good oil is clear. Be careful

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Absolutely. Thanks for watching.

[@PastorMattMoto]

Thanks for the video Rich! Im going to look at an m109r tomorrow myself :). I have a small motorcycle youtube channel as well, where I do reviews of the bikes I buy and sell. Appreciate your content, ill be sure to check out more of your videos :).

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Your welcome. Good luck on the M109r search. And thanks for watching. Appreciate the support. Ride safe.

[@FrankC656]

Dig the garage, the m109r, and the crocs 👍

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Thanks 👍

[@s.s.goldwing9797]

Good information Rich goes for any used motorcycle😊 when I bought the SS Goldwing I just wanted a Motorcycle and really didn’t know what to look for or at😂 luckily, I think I did OK always good to be learning in every aspect😊🏍️

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Absolutely. Appreciate you watching and sharing. Thanks.

[@BlackBirdieGolf]

Kelly Blue book has the goldwing 2022 for 23, 400 in good condition. I saw a new one for $22,888. What do you suggest I offer?

[@jamesrobin5166]

Buy the new one 👍

[@jamesmegill]

Manufacturers spend a lot of time and money on R&D. Sometimes, just leaving them stock is not a terrible idea?😊

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Can’t disagree. Bikes are usually sold as a base package. Customizing them to fit our individual needs I don’t believe is the worst thing. Thanks for watching.

[@FRJMJ]

Awesome. Thanks

[@keithheck4193]

Great advise.

[@lokeshdeshwal5288]

Which engine is more durable suzuki or honda?

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Sorry for the late Reply. I will take Honda any day over any of the Japanese engines. Not just engines but drive train.

[@avtomatism]

Thanks man..i am found of that beast..but honestly i have heard about 2gear and clutch.. Nnnaah..im buying gl 1500 ... Ur honest and i thank you 😊

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Your welcome my friend. You definitely can’t go wrong with the gel 1500. Iconic motorcycle. Thanks for watching.

[@happy1oflove]

Thank you.

[@benitotoka5157]

I want to buy one with 500 miles, but l saw another video that they have problems with the transmission

[@richthereturnrider6737]

It’s a concern but so many folks out there have them for many years an d many miles trouble free. Thanks for watching.

[@michaelhudson303]

It's heavy but balanced

[@richthereturnrider6737]

That it is.

[@eddycurrent413]

should have been a factory recall

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Absolutely. Suzuki dropped the ball on this one. Thanks for watching.

[@CyclingJunkieUSA]

Thanks buddy, nice review and advice. Ride safe!

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Thanks, you too! Appreciate you watching

[@gordonwrichert8240]

common problems with suzukis and not just the 109

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Oh really! Elaborate.

[@bobsuruncle679]

Fault Indicator is the red light.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Hey thanks for the correction. I thought it was fuel injection light.

[@Rippinsmallies]

I would ride an M109R before I would ride a harley davidson that everybody else has. I have a C109r that will blow the paint off Harleys and it's 16 years old. Come get some.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Nice. It was between this or the V- Rod. Easy decision M109R. The bike is badass. They don’t want none.

[@jtrain2024]

Send your ecu to Moore mafia and have it flashed. It’ll unleash the full potential of the bike and enjoy the new sweet ride.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

I know. At 40k not to concern about the tuning now. I was supposed to do it locally but the shop closed. I want to see numbers or changes on a dyno. I Ride it pretty hard. Not knowing what the engine is doing can be costly. Those guys are great tuners. Thanks.

[@BERTLEWEED]

Ride it man! Or at least let us hear it 🙂

[@richthereturnrider6737]

I did on plenty of videos.

[@anathma]

He also has another video saying the M109R is the best motorcycle he ever owned haha. But ya 2006-2010 2nd gear issue sucks. They fixed the issue in 2011

[@richthereturnrider6737]

I know. I have also seen that video. They did fix it? Couldn’t find anything confirming they did. Thanks for watching and sharing that.

[@anathma]

@@richthereturnrider6737 they fixed it in 2011. If you want to fix it yourself on a pre-2011 you can order the 2011 trans parts and swap em over.

[@SteeIW0LF]

They did not fix the transmission issue in 2011. They did change the clutch in 2011 and added extra discs and lightened the springs making the clutch feel lighter and smoother. If you own an earlier bike, you can buy the parts to upgrade the older clutch to the new system. The shift rods and forks are still the same weak hollow rods they have always been and the “skipping” or “jumping” out of 2nd gear will still be an issue under hard acceleration.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

@SteeIW0LF thanks for that information. Good to learn.

[@BlackRedBullRider]

Bestes bike ever 💪😉✌️

[@richthereturnrider6737]

I love it. Thanks for watching

[@dzl8596]

Bikes are like Barbie Dolls for men. A crap ton of accessories.

[@Rippinsmallies]

Cheap bike? 33 thousand miles never a problem in 16 years and still runs like hell.

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Nice. Love hearing that. Best bang for the buck. Thanks for watching.

[@chodesmond]

This video took forever

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Agree. Thanks for warning. Ride safe.

[@connecticutgunner9333]

Can anyone say motorcycle 😂

[@mikeannen4458]

About a 100 times

[@richthereturnrider6737]

@mikeannen4458 absolutely

[@urbanwarior3134]

Bikes wearing a windscreen like a bandana

[@richthereturnrider6737]

It serves and protects better than a bandana. Lol

[@mccglastron1972]

Unreal you didn't start the bike so we can hear the exhaust!

[@richthereturnrider6737]

Apologies. I should’ve done that. The phone doesn’t do it justice. I like that idea. I’m going to start the videos of that bike with startups from now on. Thanks for that and thanks for watching.

[@mccglastron1972]

@@richthereturnrider6737 - no problem... just saying that's like a rule, lol... You have to do it. EVERYONE should know that you're hearing what the mic picks up and your speakers reproduce so that is what it is. I will say this keep your mic around ear level... We have all seen videos where people are sticking the mic right by the exhaust, etc... Anyone ever lay on the ground right by the exhaust while the bike gets revved? No, of course not, lol.