M1909 Benet Mercie - America's First LMG

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The first light machine gun adopted by the United States was the M1909 Benet-Mercie, made by the Hotchkiss company in France. The gun was adopted when the US military realized that machine gun doctrine reuqired different guns for the light and heavy roles, and the M1904 Maxim gun was only suitable for use in the heavy role. Less than 2,000 of the M1909 guns were acquired, virtually all of them being made under license by Springfield Arsenal and the Colt company. They were used as training guns by US forces mobilizing for World War One, but did not see combat in that war. Indeed, the only action of note the Benet-Mercie saw was in Pancho Villa's 1916 raid on the town of Columbus, New Mexico. Want to know more about the Columbus raid? Check out the InRangeTV video on that battle:
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@Tulip1811
@Tulip1811 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like they started designing it and just never stopped.
@mattjohnson7775
@mattjohnson7775 4 жыл бұрын
Ohmygod word lol
@JETWTF
@JETWTF 4 жыл бұрын
Overengineered is a thing. Spellcheck even agrees. Happens when you pay engineers more money for more detail, do not set limits on complication, or have engineers who never touched an actual tool in their life so have no idea on designing something easy to make and maintain. That weapon looks like all three happened.
@justindunlap1235
@justindunlap1235 3 жыл бұрын
And they did it all with a pencil some paper and slide rules
@R_o_o_k_i_n_g_t_o_n
@R_o_o_k_i_n_g_t_o_n 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like a Star Wars Blaster and I love it
@sorrenblitz805
@sorrenblitz805 3 жыл бұрын
They built it the true way, the German way.
@jackmurphy6510
@jackmurphy6510 6 жыл бұрын
The ergonomics of this gun are such that I am reasonably confident that the organism which designed it had heard a brief verbal description of a human before, and was excited about the prospect of actually seeing one some day.
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy 4 жыл бұрын
"There is a gap in their body where the armpit goes. Their necks move in all directions. Their hands can go forwards."
@AgentTasmania
@AgentTasmania 3 жыл бұрын
Presumably of the same planet as Nintendo controller designers
@bradenpetty3828
@bradenpetty3828 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody talks like that
@foxtrotdelta225
@foxtrotdelta225 2 жыл бұрын
I predict this comment might see an uptick in likes
@nickm9123
@nickm9123 2 жыл бұрын
My guy, you made it into ak guy's gun meme review.
@yop_cholo
@yop_cholo 6 жыл бұрын
"Day 243. Still at auction house. They believe I'm a historian. Will continue posting videos as long as my body holds on. Ian out."
@valhallasrevenge
@valhallasrevenge 6 жыл бұрын
"Day 489. i have been here soo long that im afraid to tell them that i don't work here, Ian out."
@SamuraiPie8111
@SamuraiPie8111 6 жыл бұрын
he is a historian you goof
@followthegrow108
@followthegrow108 6 жыл бұрын
@@SamuraiPie8111 the joke went way over your head
@thejerk4478
@thejerk4478 6 жыл бұрын
"Day 503. They are starting to get suspicious. Ian out."
@connorwilliams3451
@connorwilliams3451 6 жыл бұрын
Day 7,300: They held a party for me today and gave me a gold watch and a pension... Ian (retired) Out!
@IronViking88
@IronViking88 6 жыл бұрын
I love the early modern stage of weapon design when a bunch of people didn't understand that being insanely baroque wasn't a desirable trait in a military small arm
@sumvs5992
@sumvs5992 3 жыл бұрын
Back when war was seen as a pleasant and virtuous venture and doing your country proud. But seriously, this gun must have made front to back, they were probably like "ok so we have this cool barrel design, ok now we have to make the action awkwardly shaped, ok now stock has to be tiny and at really far down, please just design a mono pod and let us be done with this project!"
@SonicsniperV7
@SonicsniperV7 5 жыл бұрын
The thing that terrifies me: If this is what won HOW BAD WERE THE REST OF THE DESIGNS
@dd11111
@dd11111 5 жыл бұрын
THAT...….is a very good point!
@RaptorJesus
@RaptorJesus 3 жыл бұрын
I refuse to believe there were competing designs.
@whathappenswhen3017
@whathappenswhen3017 2 жыл бұрын
@@RaptorJesus Hopefully there were not.
@nickm9123
@nickm9123 2 жыл бұрын
Well, when this was adopted, machine guns were fairly new, insanely heavy, and all were quirky in one way or another. So, to see this win over something like the potato digger MG, which the U.S did use at the time, isn't too out of the question. Also, a man who shares the name of a popular whistle tater on primer, Mr Crozier. That man said screw the Lewis gun, no man can see in the dark, and our guns will be fine. (GREATLY paraphrased, but yea, blame him)
@TakahashiRyosuke13137
@TakahashiRyosuke13137 2 жыл бұрын
possibly one was a steam machine that shot bullets by heating them
@phthalophoenix5416
@phthalophoenix5416 6 жыл бұрын
This gun was kept as the LMG of choice by the US for so long because the head of the Ordinance Department and the inventor of the far superior Lewis Gun were at odds for years.
@gihrenzabi7271
@gihrenzabi7271 5 жыл бұрын
Then why didn't they just get a Madsen?
@phthalophoenix5416
@phthalophoenix5416 5 жыл бұрын
Gihren Zabi I think Ian mentions that in his Madsen LMG video.
@clayz1
@clayz1 5 жыл бұрын
Phthalo Phoenix What the heck is up with US military ordinance departments? They’ve killed a substantial number of our troops themselves, just thru neglect of the leadership.
@noturkill9879
@noturkill9879 3 жыл бұрын
@@clayz1 politics over brains.
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 2 жыл бұрын
@@clayz1 politics and tradition, stupid stuff
@fishbarns1357
@fishbarns1357 6 жыл бұрын
The monopod is more complicated the a sten gun.
@robert8984
@robert8984 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair: A two-by-four is more complicated than a sten gun.
@kylosalvesen
@kylosalvesen 6 жыл бұрын
I've had shits that were more complicated than a sten gun
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 6 жыл бұрын
You ate there too?
@murderousintent7838
@murderousintent7838 6 жыл бұрын
everything is more complicated then a Sten gun
@rediius
@rediius 6 жыл бұрын
A two foot monopod... like a bipod?
@jeffreyl.7210
@jeffreyl.7210 5 жыл бұрын
John Browning must have been rolling with laughter after seeing what a ridiculously complicated design that was.
@thhseeking
@thhseeking 3 жыл бұрын
What's complicated is all the s**t added to the gun. It's otherwise just a Hotchkiss machinegun. I suppose the U.S. penchant for "modifying" a "foreign" weapon for U.S. use rather than just adopting it goes back a long way.
@LazyLifeIFreak
@LazyLifeIFreak 6 жыл бұрын
That gun has more relations to an artillery piece than a machine gun.
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 4 жыл бұрын
this machine gun whe see here as a vehicle mountwho make it so massive, but the naked version, known as "Hotchkiss portable" was much lighter, a bit lighter as a Lewis machine gun...
@lambsauce5312
@lambsauce5312 3 жыл бұрын
Artiljerija 🇧🇦🇧🇦🇧🇦🇧🇦🇧🇦🇧🇦
@nickm9123
@nickm9123 2 жыл бұрын
At the time, machine gun doctrine was relatively the same as close range artillery, because machine guns were a relatively new advancement in military tech.
@Dr.KarlowTheOctoling
@Dr.KarlowTheOctoling 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickm9123 Shit like the BAR and Madsen were wakeup calls.
@thewaraboo2824
@thewaraboo2824 6 жыл бұрын
For a gun that seems very confused about just what kind of tactical role it was supposed to fulfill in an infantry unit and has so many features, I am genuinely surprised that it doesn't have a bayonet lug as well....
@Logotic
@Logotic 6 жыл бұрын
No bayonet lug, but you could definitely poke holes in somebody with the bipod.
@somescrub2276
@somescrub2276 6 жыл бұрын
The Bipod folds forward to double as a bayonet
@grahamlopez6202
@grahamlopez6202 5 жыл бұрын
Just draw your sidearm while they stare in confusion at the automatic rifle harp cheesegrater thingy you're carrying
@thesturm8686
@thesturm8686 4 жыл бұрын
If the british adopted it, it would have one
@wesleyruff4997
@wesleyruff4997 6 жыл бұрын
good lord i didnt realize doctor seuss designed a machine gun
@jtilton5
@jtilton5 6 жыл бұрын
The bitter butter battle just got serious!
@matthewsandifer2673
@matthewsandifer2673 6 жыл бұрын
I will not shoot this ham, Sam I am.
@Tigerheart01
@Tigerheart01 6 жыл бұрын
Nah, just some Frenchmen. Close enough.
@yetanother7690
@yetanother7690 6 жыл бұрын
He preferred to call it a "berdunzernubulous" but hey, "machine gun" just rolls of the tongue better.
@robmcmuffin8453
@robmcmuffin8453 5 жыл бұрын
Thing One and Thing Two approve of this LMG.
@44WarmocK77
@44WarmocK77 6 жыл бұрын
That sweet old lady still looks as pristine as it did over a century ago. And I really dig the feeding system, it's so whacky that it's simply completely off the coolness scale.
@Amaz0n24
@Amaz0n24 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact. The electrical outlet doubling as a front sight (0:26) revolutionized American warfare. By allowing the troops to charge their phones while simultaneously laying withering suppressive fire down upon the enemy, the U.S. military increased each soldiers productivity and efficiency by 43%.
@Justanotherconsumer
@Justanotherconsumer 6 жыл бұрын
Amaz0n24 unsure when to change the barrel? There’s an app for that!
@tradfave9474
@tradfave9474 6 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that US troops had cellular phones in WW1.
@DC-yh1on
@DC-yh1on 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what the army would have you believe. We all know productivity and accuracy actually went down 100% due to soldiers sexting their girlfriends on duty.
@myvideosetc.8271
@myvideosetc.8271 6 жыл бұрын
I thought i was the only one that saw the outlet as a part of the gun.
@biodieselbaron
@biodieselbaron 6 жыл бұрын
no can do; did you also notice the outlets are mounted up-side-down!
@ThZuao
@ThZuao 6 жыл бұрын
Guy has trouble selling his guns in America. Sets up shop in France to conduct business there. Boy... Times sure have changed.
@aytonbob
@aytonbob 5 жыл бұрын
Thauã Aguirre how can he call it American when its French.
@thelosthero368
@thelosthero368 4 жыл бұрын
@@aytonbob the gun was designed by an American and then later adopted and used and manufactured in the US.
@thepny_chasseur_de_tricera5361
@thepny_chasseur_de_tricera5361 4 жыл бұрын
The gun is french designed by two french
@thepny_chasseur_de_tricera5361
@thepny_chasseur_de_tricera5361 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelosthero368 that totally false two french man made this gun it's litteraly built in hotchkis factory
@Vercingetorix525
@Vercingetorix525 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelosthero368 the company was founded by an American. Benet and Mercie are the two guys that ThePny is referring to
@Papafreud94
@Papafreud94 6 жыл бұрын
I actually wonder how this didn't get into Star Wars.
@exploatores
@exploatores 6 жыл бұрын
I don´t think they know that it existed or if they did they couldn´t aford one when they did the first three.
@tisFrancesfault
@tisFrancesfault 6 жыл бұрын
Unlikely to source them in the UK.
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 6 жыл бұрын
Some of the guns used by the Storm Troopers in the first Star Wars were replica MG34 so why not have these as well. Having said that they look more steampunk then Star Wars. Or that hunter Van Pelt in the original Jumanji.
@Zambezi_
@Zambezi_ 6 жыл бұрын
Valentin Guéranger the lewis gun did tho
@j4ff4c3ks1
@j4ff4c3ks1 6 жыл бұрын
Because as mentioned, they were scarce in their own lifetime, and much more so afterwards. Lucas didn't use WW2 guns for their looks, they were cheap and common
@d3faulted2
@d3faulted2 6 жыл бұрын
The amount of machining hours that went into that gun would have been insane. That knurling looks like it was cut rather than being done by a knurling tool. Just wow.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 6 жыл бұрын
the things machinists got away with before the invention of middle meddling management
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 6 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@kenibnanak5554
@kenibnanak5554 6 жыл бұрын
We should insist all AR15 barrels have similar checkering. :)
@michaelfoye1135
@michaelfoye1135 5 жыл бұрын
We call it industrial engineering.
@metalman6708
@metalman6708 5 жыл бұрын
A machining masterpiece. Before the days of carbide and CNCs. All done turning handles by hand.
@mothman6676
@mothman6676 5 жыл бұрын
And they didn't have some of the advanced manufacturing techniques we have today
@ericph9
@ericph9 6 жыл бұрын
This thing looks like its about one piston away from full steampunk
@mork6668
@mork6668 5 жыл бұрын
True
@acidwizzardbastard
@acidwizzardbastard 5 жыл бұрын
It's already looking like a scaled up version of a steampunk assault rifle as it is so...
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacktheaviator4938 1909 is still in the steam era. Gasoline engines were pretty rare for powering a shop.
@edwardwood6532
@edwardwood6532 6 жыл бұрын
It is meant to be art. Using it as a weapon of war was secondary.
@LiLi-or2gm
@LiLi-or2gm 6 жыл бұрын
The Art of War, perhaps?
@gihrenzabi7271
@gihrenzabi7271 5 жыл бұрын
Freaking French, man......
@epauletshark3793
@epauletshark3793 3 жыл бұрын
Stupid modern artists. At least this one can be used for something.
@afwaller
@afwaller 5 жыл бұрын
What an incredible gun. Not only is the stock upside-down, but it even turns the power outlets in the room upside down. It flips the orientation of other items in its presence. Outstanding.
@criffermaclennan
@criffermaclennan 6 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing it's a light gun in comparison to a vickers or maxim but still looks a hefty beast
@lavrentivs9891
@lavrentivs9891 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, "light" is more of a reference to it's intended role rather than it's weight^^
@genghiskhan6809
@genghiskhan6809 6 жыл бұрын
When it comes to weight and most pre-1910 machine guns, everything is relative.
@aixide
@aixide 4 жыл бұрын
Light and heavy machine gun means a different thing when refering to modern firearms or firearms back then
@kwc0435
@kwc0435 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I imagine maxim guns were heavy fuckers because of the watercooling. Even the mg08/15, which has modified grips for mobile use, would probably be insanely hard to handle
@lowtierhuman69
@lowtierhuman69 6 жыл бұрын
That knurling on the barrel. Oh baby. As someone who knows a little about machining: oh my does this look lovely and time consuming. Awesome!
@murphy13295
@murphy13295 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah , knurling is not at top of list of fun operations and that barrel is excruciatingly produced .
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 3 жыл бұрын
I know, work of art huh?
@dennisfarris5960
@dennisfarris5960 2 жыл бұрын
They had a cost plus contract mebbe?
@hendriktonisson2915
@hendriktonisson2915 6 жыл бұрын
This gun had some very innovative features for it`s time like quick change barrel and ability to use optics. The Browning BAR that replaced that gun didn`t have none of these features.
@GreenHellTube
@GreenHellTube 6 жыл бұрын
1918 BAR was basicly an early battle rifle intended to be used by a single soldier, it didn't even have a bipod. Hochkins is still a crew served machinegun.
@benparsons4979
@benparsons4979 6 жыл бұрын
But it was still a much more mobile, reliable LMG
@AgentTasmania
@AgentTasmania 3 жыл бұрын
The Browning Browning Automatic Rifle
@TakahashiRyosuke13137
@TakahashiRyosuke13137 2 жыл бұрын
I would choose the BAR a million times over this thing.
@purplestrawberrysunset
@purplestrawberrysunset 4 ай бұрын
Double negative so it did?
@pigeononbread5477
@pigeononbread5477 6 жыл бұрын
Man this gun is an absolute UNIT am starstruck by this lad
@Mongo63a
@Mongo63a 6 жыл бұрын
You have to wonder how Colt made any money on such low production numbers given the amount of tooling and jigging required to machine these.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 6 жыл бұрын
Government contracts that let you bill for the tooling and setup costs, that's how. :)
@LiLi-or2gm
@LiLi-or2gm 6 жыл бұрын
FW - was just going to say that. Imagine how much you'd learn having to figure this mess out!
@Madtownbiochem
@Madtownbiochem 6 жыл бұрын
More than made up for it with the 1911 I’d guess. That was the service gun for like , what 70 years?
@brasstard7.627
@brasstard7.627 6 жыл бұрын
The thumbs down are from Pancho Villa and his men
@HaqqAttak
@HaqqAttak 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, we actually used to have troops on the border. What a crazy idea.
@davidhanson4909
@davidhanson4909 6 жыл бұрын
"Wow, we actually used to have troops on the border. What a crazy idea." Maybe 'cause the U.S.B.P. didn't exist until 1924?
@benjaminalldredge3180
@benjaminalldredge3180 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't have welfare either
@davidhanson4909
@davidhanson4909 6 жыл бұрын
That bears on this situation how, exactly?
@remko1238
@remko1238 6 жыл бұрын
Brasstard 7.62 - i’m always amazed by people like that who are watching this institutional channel,, an epic journey i would call it,, but not-like-it...
@am17frans
@am17frans 6 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or did Ian never expalin how it works?
@lbbrock8219
@lbbrock8219 6 жыл бұрын
No, he didn't. But this thing looks so complicated that only the waaagh might get it to work
@mruler360
@mruler360 6 жыл бұрын
I suspect whoever has it up for sale didn’t allow it to be disassembled. That or Ian didn’t want to bother.
@LiLi-or2gm
@LiLi-or2gm 6 жыл бұрын
I totally forgot about that . . . the design created such a pleasant fog of crazy in me mind . . .
@kenibnanak5554
@kenibnanak5554 6 жыл бұрын
It is a Hotchkiss under a different name, so it should work just like a Hotchkiss. :)
@Tripp426
@Tripp426 6 жыл бұрын
You mean Waluigi could get it to work?
@nicholas_scott
@nicholas_scott 6 жыл бұрын
Part 2? Seems like so much more to talk about , internals, etc
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 6 жыл бұрын
I got real nervous when you stepped away from the bipod end to mess with the monopod. In my experience with floppy bipods, they always collapse the second you step away from them.
@Airay552
@Airay552 6 жыл бұрын
The healing touch of gun Jesus makes even the shittiest bipod functional
@christianhoffmann8607
@christianhoffmann8607 6 жыл бұрын
that's right mike
@mattipps
@mattipps 6 жыл бұрын
I love that thumbnail!
@visionist7
@visionist7 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@TheComradeBritish
@TheComradeBritish 6 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how the charging handle/selector mimicks the operation of a bolt action rifle. Maybe to make it easier to learn the operation of the gun?
@beaker126
@beaker126 6 жыл бұрын
That, or they ran outta places to put stuff.
@mattipps
@mattipps 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty common of the era to incorporate bolt action similar features. And you are correct it was a training commonality issue.
@donjones4719
@donjones4719 3 жыл бұрын
A perfect light machine gun for the Elbonian army if it had been formed in 1919. Must have been hellishly expensive and time consuming to make, and virtually certainly would be a nightmare to field strip. With that quadropod it must be a *heavy* light machine gun, and awkward to deploy.
@raymondraptorclaw2901
@raymondraptorclaw2901 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t recognize it at first, but the second I saw that metal truss skeleton “belt” thingy I remembered the very first weapon handed to me in Battlefield One.
@forrestdevine2336
@forrestdevine2336 6 жыл бұрын
Ugh, that barrel makes me feel.....things. Knurled for my pleasure.
@ToastytheG
@ToastytheG 6 жыл бұрын
Forrest Devine Notice how it gets extra pointy every 4 or 5 rows... oh God it's so Victorian... 🍆🌊
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 6 жыл бұрын
Anything's a dildo if you're brave enough.
@howardchambers3163
@howardchambers3163 6 жыл бұрын
TheGoldenCaulk p-talks loves you 😍
@Vapefly0815
@Vapefly0815 6 жыл бұрын
Especially Forgotten Weapons and RLM videos.
@tutzdesYT
@tutzdesYT 5 жыл бұрын
Assault rifle weapon in Hawken mech game has the same checkering. I was always wondering who the hell decided that using a barbell bar for barrel is a good idea. Now I see it had a real life prototype o_0
@brucelee3388
@brucelee3388 6 жыл бұрын
I remember reading that one enquiry into failures with these guns was that the fed strip could be fed in upside down as easily as the right way up, particularly in the dark and going by feel alone. If the feed strip was upside down obviously the gun jammed and the feed strip apparently got damaged enough that it could not be immediately reused.
@lostblades71
@lostblades71 6 жыл бұрын
"Really sophisticated, or at least really complicated' KZbin quote classic right there
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 6 жыл бұрын
Does it print a receipt? . . . With the feed strip there, it somehow has the look of Wallace & Grommit's take on a Madsen : )
@sqeeye3102
@sqeeye3102 6 жыл бұрын
That is the most incredibly steampunk setup I can remember on a real production rifle. Absolutely amazing. Thank you for bringing us this fantastic gun.
@perw12345
@perw12345 6 жыл бұрын
With how deep and rough the knurling is it looks like they actually cut a quadruple or quintuple start thread, and that both left and right handed. The machining on these things is just gorgeous.
@gordoncouger9648
@gordoncouger9648 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on left and right-handed threads probably with a tool close to 45 degrees. It would add surface area for cooling, increase the grip for changing the barrel, and not take very long to do. It look,s to well-spaced and deep for knurling
@edm240b9
@edm240b9 6 жыл бұрын
When something is worse than the A2 BAR bipod, you know it’s bad...
@peterdvornik
@peterdvornik 6 жыл бұрын
2/10, not enough wing nuts
@tylergordon696
@tylergordon696 6 жыл бұрын
The amount of machining time on that thing is crazy
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 6 жыл бұрын
That looks... awkward I’m still struggling to understand why the bipod is as spindly and useless looking, as the monopod looks over built. Also that barrel knurling 😍
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 6 жыл бұрын
P-Talks that’s insane, but also why I love FW and these early guns 👍
@dfwai7589
@dfwai7589 6 жыл бұрын
The whole thing is just so unnecessarily over engineered, but in the most pointless spots. The monopod, the barrel cuts, that flip up sight, that charging handle/fire selector abomination..... I love it
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 6 жыл бұрын
Joel Atwater completely agree with you... and yet the bipod looks like it wouldn’t even stand up to airsoft. Weird, but fascinating!
@dj1NM3
@dj1NM3 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, that barrel checkering is insanely complicated: basically like a righ-hand multi-start thread cut and then a left-hand multi-start thread cut back over the top to get those diamond shaped checkers.
@M00nkat55
@M00nkat55 2 жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful firearm! I love all the intense machining and the complexity of the iron sights makes me want to spend time learning this
@danmdevries
@danmdevries 6 жыл бұрын
Machinist porn right here. Holy carp this is an amazing piece.
@Tripp426
@Tripp426 6 жыл бұрын
Holy carp? I have never seen one of those. They must be rare.
@gabreshaa8234
@gabreshaa8234 4 жыл бұрын
I first read that as "masochist porn" which would also be true
@VegasCyclingFreak
@VegasCyclingFreak 6 жыл бұрын
How have I never ever heard of this gun? It is quite an impressive piece from a machining standpoint.
@kj55
@kj55 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a machinist and that must have been a very expensive gun $$$$ to make
@chrissenzatimore3769
@chrissenzatimore3769 6 жыл бұрын
Someone at Colt said "Let's make the barrel double as a cheese grater, because combat and well-flavored food go hand-in-hand." Someone at Colt should have put their foot down and said NO, very loud and angrily.
@LiLi-or2gm
@LiLi-or2gm 6 жыл бұрын
They use the barrels to rough-shape the stock. :P
@jamesmuldoon2582
@jamesmuldoon2582 5 жыл бұрын
I think it may have been used to grip ledges due to the limitations of the bipod idk though
@ridermak4111
@ridermak4111 6 жыл бұрын
What a ridiculou$/beautiful exce$$ive bunch of machining ! I don’t believe that is knurling, but actually cut checkering on the barrel, and quite perfectly done. The clue is at each end of the pattern, and also the perfect point on each and every diamond.
@gabber88ful
@gabber88ful 6 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing the hours put in the barrel alone must be half a work week with the checkering and the ribs
@Vapefly0815
@Vapefly0815 6 жыл бұрын
Yup, being a trained machinist I knew there's no way that's regular knurling. Christ, this is pure madness. A gold plated 1921 would seem like a budget option compared to this thing...
@DumbArse
@DumbArse 6 жыл бұрын
But god it was worth it, this thing is a beauty
@LiLi-or2gm
@LiLi-or2gm 6 жыл бұрын
It looks almost painful- like holding it between a pair of coarse bastard files!
@stevenduckworth8357
@stevenduckworth8357 6 жыл бұрын
Machinist at Colt ' mine is much prettier, plus the over time paid well'
@Gilgashodin
@Gilgashodin 6 жыл бұрын
Always love the history surrounding the guns. Keep up the good work Ian!
@insovietrussiavodka
@insovietrussiavodka 3 жыл бұрын
Ian at 7:30 - Explains the positions as Safe, Full, Semi, charging. Ian at 8:10 - Safe, semi, full minor oops
@AzureRoseMarshal
@AzureRoseMarshal 2 жыл бұрын
Wait so 8:10 is the actual correct selector switch?
@blus4
@blus4 6 жыл бұрын
Is it legal to conceal carry one of those in the US?
@LiLi-or2gm
@LiLi-or2gm 6 жыл бұрын
Only if you're a robot and it looks like one of your legs.
@mattipps
@mattipps 6 жыл бұрын
If you have the money to buy it, anything is possible. There are 250 private tank owners in the us. Wouldn't you like to conceal carry a machine gun while driving down the road in a FUCKING TANK! GENIUS!
@1014p
@1014p 5 жыл бұрын
blus4 it has that things that flips up so its a assault weapon. I mean any politician know this right?
@g0679
@g0679 5 жыл бұрын
blus4 That would require a huge gut. But there is no shortage of those around here.
@htodd4014
@htodd4014 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, only States with constitutional carry
@charlesadams1721
@charlesadams1721 6 жыл бұрын
Ian, I was kinda hoping that you’d be able to show a little more about the functioning as this firearm has a more than at least a superficial passing resemblance to the Japanese Type 11 machine gun. Understanding that the Japanese were and are excellent engineers, but early in the century, their ideas were perhaps not always in concert with, shall we sat the prevalent European conventions, it might be interesting to find out if considering the Japanese appreciation for Hotchiss pattern machine guns, they followed that pattern rather than the Maxim?
@yuribartieniev8364
@yuribartieniev8364 6 жыл бұрын
Ian has a video about Hotchkiss Portative. It's one of the early videos on the channel.
@jamesdobson709
@jamesdobson709 6 жыл бұрын
You could chase of plenty of pedofiles with this gun !!
@prinssdgunofficial2400
@prinssdgunofficial2400 6 жыл бұрын
Please use a simple dot instead of a komma!
@HaqqAttak
@HaqqAttak 6 жыл бұрын
The short answer is that they had originally bought Hotchkiss and reversed the designs.
@howardchambers3163
@howardchambers3163 6 жыл бұрын
potito Potato *comma*
@gregameele1444
@gregameele1444 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a precision machinist and I can say this was a 10/10 enjoyable episode. Very beautiful and complicated weapon
@FreeAmericaChannel
@FreeAmericaChannel 6 жыл бұрын
A machine gun manufactured by the machinist's union, no doubt. Imagine all of the machine operations this gun requires. And remember, there were no CNC machines back then.
@FreeAmericaChannel
@FreeAmericaChannel 6 жыл бұрын
I was joking. There are so many hours of machining in that gun that they would have to charge overtime.
@userequaltoNull
@userequaltoNull 2 жыл бұрын
@@3eightiesopinion524 yes, they've existed since the 1800's.
@5887MXX
@5887MXX 3 жыл бұрын
That's about as steampunk as anything ive ever seen lmao
@nicholasfitzsimmons7311
@nicholasfitzsimmons7311 4 жыл бұрын
This is easily in my top 5 lmgs along with the Bren, the fg 42, dp 28, and the Charlton automatic rifle.
@stephenbinion6348
@stephenbinion6348 6 жыл бұрын
That thing is more steampunk than any of the steampunk mods I’ve seen. Hopelessly complicated for complication’s sake. I love it.
@kubrick1969
@kubrick1969 6 жыл бұрын
Holy Cow, Gun Jesus with a steampunk weapon!!!!
@darnit1944
@darnit1944 6 жыл бұрын
Achkchyually, this gun was invented when people started to use gasoline engine.
@CThyran
@CThyran 6 жыл бұрын
@@darnit1944 Steampunk generally refers from the Victorian age to WWI, especially early machine guns and other overcomplicated weaponry from that time.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 6 жыл бұрын
My first thought! My second was that power plug...
@Gun4Freedom
@Gun4Freedom 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously, this thing looks like it belongs in Dishonored.
@stevenduckworth8357
@stevenduckworth8357 6 жыл бұрын
you got there before me Antonio !
@makattak88
@makattak88 6 жыл бұрын
The machining is insane. Tooling like that will never exist in modern times.
@rexerator
@rexerator 4 жыл бұрын
It could. We just wouldn't do it. Its extremely convaluted lile holy fuck. Why would someone think making this thing was a good idea?
@DrSabot-A
@DrSabot-A 2 жыл бұрын
Not because they cant, but because they wont.
@BigWheel.
@BigWheel. 2 жыл бұрын
@@rexerator because it looks cool and knurling feels nice
@misfit4816
@misfit4816 6 жыл бұрын
The shoulder thing that goes up
@imajeenyus42
@imajeenyus42 6 жыл бұрын
I just realised - that height adjustment screw for the rear 'pod is actually a compound screw. The part the handle is attached to is tubular, with left-hand threads on the outside and right-hand threads on the inside. Way cool!
@dansneyd4646
@dansneyd4646 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just speculating, but I'm guessing that is slightly beyond my budget
@johnalexander5078
@johnalexander5078 2 жыл бұрын
In the late 1980s, I was in Chad on a training mission. Each of the team members were in charge of different aspects of the training of a battalion of the Chadian army. I was in charge of the machine gunnery training on PKMs. The troopers were tribesmen and spoke no know language, but a Saharan version of 7th century Arabic; we had translators, fortunately. The men invariably called all machine guns “Zher Nuff” (phonetic) which our liaison officer said was their pronunciation of French for 09. This was because when the French came to Chad, they brought the “Bene Mercer Model 09” to conquer the natives. This evidently worked, for a time. In any event, from there on after, all machine guns were Zher Nuff, whether they be Hotchkiss, M-24, AAT or PKM. (Please excuse the spellings.)
@caprise-music6722
@caprise-music6722 6 жыл бұрын
Wow what!? Benet-Mercie telescopic!!
@benparsons4979
@benparsons4979 6 жыл бұрын
Stfu
@AColonelPanic
@AColonelPanic 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@caprise-music6722
@caprise-music6722 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Parsons you can’t hear me
@ethanblevins1116
@ethanblevins1116 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Parsons You stfu
@Beanpapac15
@Beanpapac15 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that they actually installed their wall plugs correctly, good on you Morphy
@holylettuce4730
@holylettuce4730 6 жыл бұрын
"Light" Machinegun
@Gunn3r91697
@Gunn3r91697 6 жыл бұрын
Compared to others of it's time. Yes.
@gihrenzabi7271
@gihrenzabi7271 5 жыл бұрын
It didn't take three people to carry this.
@joshuahadams
@joshuahadams 4 жыл бұрын
“Light” as in you don’t need a wagon or three guys to cart it around
@frostedbutts4340
@frostedbutts4340 4 жыл бұрын
That engineering on the monopod and the way it folds away is a thing of beauty
@pfitz9346
@pfitz9346 6 жыл бұрын
Can you really still call it a monopod if it has two feet? Or is it just a really short bipod on a mounting post? The world will never know.
@ekscalybur
@ekscalybur 6 жыл бұрын
Would you call a one legged man with 2 feet a one legged man?
@pfitz9346
@pfitz9346 6 жыл бұрын
@@ekscalybur no, but would you call a man with a 3 foot long waist and 2 stubby legs one legged?
@ekscalybur
@ekscalybur 6 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone call a 2 legged man a 1 legged man? Your premise refutes itself. My point is why are you asking why a 1 legged thing is called a 1 legged thing when it has 2 things that aren't legs. Given that 2 things that aren't legs don't matter to how many legs it has.
@LiLi-or2gm
@LiLi-or2gm 6 жыл бұрын
Let's call it a ⏊-pod!
@MrHws5mp
@MrHws5mp 6 жыл бұрын
It's a bipedal monoleg...
@adamparris8353
@adamparris8353 4 ай бұрын
As ridiculous as they are, i absolutely love the most complicated version of the buffington sight on this gun and the 1917 bmg. I feel like they would have been more useful on an American anti tank rifle that never existed.
@yetanother9127
@yetanother9127 6 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd ever hear the phrase "two-footed monopod". That charging handle reminds me of the one on the MP35, having to turn it upward like a bolt-action rifle in order to charge the round. Perhaps Monsieur Benét and Herr Bergmann exchanged notes at some point.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 4 жыл бұрын
It is more of a monopole bipod. The "pod" refers to "foot" or "feet".
@romainlapie6362
@romainlapie6362 6 жыл бұрын
For those wondering about the resemblances with the Japanese type 11, this is from his Wikipedia page "The Type 11 light machine gun was a design by famed arms designer Kijirō Nambu, based on a modification of the French Hotchkiss M1909 Benét-Mercié machine gun. It was an air-cooled, gas-operated design, using the same 6.5×50mm Arisaka cartridges as the Type 38 infantry rifle."
@MSh-vx3zv
@MSh-vx3zv 6 жыл бұрын
That thing is a dieselpunk nightmare. I absolutely love it.
@RaininPayne2
@RaininPayne2 5 жыл бұрын
11:05 that knurling is beautiful. It takes a really rigid machine to do knurling that deep as well. Pretty good for it’s time 👌🏼
@Storebrand_
@Storebrand_ 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that knurled barrel is beautiful.
@GunsWithGage
@GunsWithGage 6 жыл бұрын
I was playing battlefield 1, and I got off to KZbin this gun. I pulled up KZbin and this was literally the first video on my feed.... Slick Ian. I know you are watching. And it's ok
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like something that came out of a steampunk festival...
@BearIndependent
@BearIndependent 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite feature is the 120 volt 60 hertz 20 amp circuit wired to the heavy barrel so I can charge my iPhone while mowing down bad guys
@UnintelligibleYT
@UnintelligibleYT 6 жыл бұрын
A Clown creates a gun : LMG edition
@bjblazkowicziii3279
@bjblazkowicziii3279 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the power outlet being installed properly.
@zashbot
@zashbot 6 жыл бұрын
Are all the electrical sockets in the morphy auction house installed upside down?
@ACZxGalm2
@ACZxGalm2 6 жыл бұрын
That's actually the new accepted way to install electrical outlets. The theory behind it is little Tommy will hit the grounding plug first rather then the hot/neutral side if he drops a knife down there so as to not arc it out.
@LiLi-or2gm
@LiLi-or2gm 6 жыл бұрын
It's the way they're installed in hospitals- it's safer if something metallic is dropped on the plug while it's partially unplugged (esp in high-oxy environments).
@zashbot
@zashbot 6 жыл бұрын
@@ACZxGalm2 wow didn't know that, makes sense though
@maxkronader5225
@maxkronader5225 4 жыл бұрын
Traditionally electricians mounted "hot" outlets right side up and switched outlets upside down. That way you'd know at a glance if an outlet was always supplying electricity, and thus useful for a clock or a TV, or if it was switch controlled, and thus more useful for a lamp.
@Madtownbiochem
@Madtownbiochem 6 жыл бұрын
Coolest video in a while. I love it when FW shows me something I’ve never seen.
@DoRC
@DoRC 6 жыл бұрын
Whatttttt no teardown???? Im so disappointed i need to go field strip something....
@jubb1984
@jubb1984 6 жыл бұрын
This is such a gorgeous weapon, loving the craftsmanship and finish.
@bluemonday09
@bluemonday09 6 жыл бұрын
Mud test when
@grahamlopez6202
@grahamlopez6202 5 жыл бұрын
Then he would have to disassemble and clean it.
@thisismyonlyline263
@thisismyonlyline263 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that Ian does this solo AND with so few cuts is beyond impressive.
@xanaxpig5247
@xanaxpig5247 6 жыл бұрын
God bless your job. Ian the man
@letsgetsteve
@letsgetsteve 6 жыл бұрын
Its very nice to see some properly installed outlets...
@elijahaitaok8624
@elijahaitaok8624 6 жыл бұрын
this has dieselpunk stamped all over it, its like something out of Wolfenstein
@benparsons4979
@benparsons4979 6 жыл бұрын
It *is* out of BF1
@Scoobz187
@Scoobz187 3 жыл бұрын
Jeezz, this has to be one of the, if not the most complex and intuitive weapon ever produced.
@DolfVaderNZ
@DolfVaderNZ 6 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see you and Hickok45 have a chat.
@aftershock2222
@aftershock2222 4 жыл бұрын
There is a picture of Pancho Villa standing with his men at the side of a brick building. At their feet is a pile of Mauser rifles. Villa is holding a heavy machine gun. The machine gun slightly resembles a Benet Mercie. I found this image on the Internet one night and never knew it existed.
@quiteindeed6809
@quiteindeed6809 6 жыл бұрын
7:44 "Automatic" 8:11 "Semi" ???
@benparsons4979
@benparsons4979 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed that. Which one is it?
@quiteindeed6809
@quiteindeed6809 6 жыл бұрын
Guess I have to buy one to find out.... Got a couple hundred thousand lying around?
@Mossy500A
@Mossy500A 5 жыл бұрын
'Automatic' meant auto-loading.
@joaogomes9405
@joaogomes9405 5 жыл бұрын
Why hello there. Fancy meeting you here.
@quiteindeed6809
@quiteindeed6809 5 жыл бұрын
@@joaogomes9405 Guh'day.
@mohammedcohen
@mohammedcohen 2 жыл бұрын
...I recall reading that on the night that Pancho Villa raided, Columbus, New Mexico the troop stationed there struggled to get the Benet-Mercie into action..
@dino.antares
@dino.antares 6 жыл бұрын
Wasn't this in Battlefield 1?
@tylerchaney1533
@tylerchaney1533 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, its now nerfed down to the power of a pellet gun.
@terminator6267
@terminator6267 6 жыл бұрын
Really? That's a shame.
@efeyigit6766
@efeyigit6766 6 жыл бұрын
@@tylerchaney1533 it is actually pretty good
@dino.antares
@dino.antares 6 жыл бұрын
@@tylerchaney1533 in the campaign mode it's still the same, i think.
@Tobascodagama
@Tobascodagama 6 жыл бұрын
It was, yeah. One of my favourite guns to use, despite the fact that -- like all LMGs in that game other than the BAR -- it had lower damage at all ranges than any of the SMGs.
@SuperAWaC
@SuperAWaC 5 жыл бұрын
to be technically correct, the barrel is not knurled, but checkered. knurling is pressed in, checkering is cut in.
@scowler92
@scowler92 6 жыл бұрын
The attempted raid of Columbus would make a great movie, if filmed and produced independently...
@timjenkins7123
@timjenkins7123 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly, Sam Pekinpah isn't around to direct it....
@robertguttman1487
@robertguttman1487 3 жыл бұрын
The Hotchkiss light machine gun upon which this was based was declared obsolete by the French in 1914 before WW-I began and were no longer being produced during the war. However, they were mounted on early aircraft because they were available, including on Roland Garros' Maraine-Saulnier monoplane as a forward-firing machine gun firing through the propeller blade which were protected by steel deflectors. Although Hotchkiss discontinued production, the British were still building these guns under license, and they used them extensively as tank guns because, unlike the Lewis Gun, firing the Hotchkiss from inside a tank did not tend to fill the fighting compartment with gunsmoke. The main problems with the Hotchkiss light machine gun were that it was not all that light, and that it was expensive to manufacture.
@SupesMe
@SupesMe 6 жыл бұрын
The charging handle is also the selector switch!? Gtfo!!!
@gihrenzabi7271
@gihrenzabi7271 5 жыл бұрын
I actually like that idea.
@JimBrodie
@JimBrodie 6 жыл бұрын
Been waiting literally years for a review on one of these. Thanks Ian, got there in the end. *hugs*
@alaskanbullworm5500
@alaskanbullworm5500 6 жыл бұрын
Madsen is still better
@Choo-ew9so
@Choo-ew9so 6 жыл бұрын
With its finned barrel, weird stock and feed strips it makes me wonder if this gun was the bases of design for some of the MG's used by the Japanese during WWII.
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