RIPPING My F80 M3 HARD On Backroads + Future Car Plans!!

[@DeepCovere]

Coming from a DCT F82 to a 2024 6MT G80, it’s nice getting updated tech and more current support for mods. It also feels way more planted compared to the F8Xs which can get scary quick if you’re pushing it. You can comfortably push a G8X with confidence and it’s still a blast to drive. I haven’t driven a GT3 before, but it’s also an aspiration of mine. If you enjoy modding and driving, a G80 is a good step imo. It’s a great all arounder- can be civilized and a people hauler during the week and a riot on the weekends! I don’t think it’s logical to spend upwards close to 200K for a manual GT3 unless the market dips more but that’s likely not gonna happen anytime soon. Driver’s cars won’t be around years from now so just drive what you want! Both are great choices

[@Autofreakgarage]

I have thankfully gotten a lot of seat time in g8x's. Both base (manual) and comp xdrives and know what you mean. It really is one of the best all arounders out there. I often wonder if I should ditch the truck and get a g8x comp xdrive for the daily and keep the f80 as the fun car, but seems fairly redundant despite their differences. That is a fear of mine. Knowing the 991.2 manual is the creme de la crop, their value isn't going to go down. I stay awake at night wondering if striking now is a smarter move than waiting to see if it dips.

[@mizaqenyad4269]

As an f82 owner plotting on a g80, i never plan to give up the f82. I love it so much, i would only want a g80, if it meant keeping the f82 as well. And i definitely do want a g80. My vision being, a more track focused car with the f82, and more of a daily/ road trip oriented car with the g80. I used ti really love Porsche, and i wanted a 781 cayman or 992 Carrera, but the f82 has made me fall in love with the whole "german muscle car" thing and i couldn't give up the driving dynamics and top end power the M cars have.

[@GolfCoyote]

My G80 was the first car I've ever custom ordered. It's pretty exciting submitting the order and checking on the BMW website constantly for updates. The performance threshold on the G80 (particularly the xdrive variant) is just so damn high too. It's heavy, doesn't sound the best, but man I love this car.

[@ecb2263]

Either way it’s going to be fun to see what it is! I’d go for the g80 first and I may as well. I’ve had my 18 m3c manual for 6 months and I’m not ready to part with it yet either it’s been awesome while it’s completely stock. I think I want to order a 2026 end of next year and see what new it would be a once in a lifetime experience to get a car delivery like that to the spec you want

[@JLMelendez3]

love the f80 would love to see you get a g80 to your spec with the m drivers package! i have a g87 on order.. the gt3 is also my dream car but not within my means yet! regardless do what makes you happy! as car enthusiasts once we get that itch for whats next it always stays somewhere in our mind no matter how hard we try to ignore it :)

[@RheelDeal]

A G80 would be sick. Especially in an Individual Color like Maldives Blue or Boston Green those colors are amazing. Plus the way u mod cars it would look amazing🙌🏻

[@BarbWaltersMusic]

Welcome to my life every year bud, this addiction we have I hate it sometimes but damn its fun

[@Autofreakgarage]

Blessing and a curse haha

[@eddy_911]

Ha, I am the same, I start looking for a new car every October/November when it starts to get cold. I bought my 997.2, cayenne gts, R8 all in November. I too feel spending $200k on a manual gt3 would be a bit much. I recently sold my NSX and R8 and had the cash to buy the GT3 that I lusted for. But in the end, i purchased an F80 manual that I can enjoy with the family (including 2 young girls). The extra money can be invested or allocated to other important goals for the family (e.g., 529s, retirement, etc.). Best of luck on your decisions and thank you for all your content.

[@mypalAbra]

I’d just create a flowchart of cars you want to experience with the last one being the gt3. This is exactly what I’ve done and I’m very happy with the process, get to experience, so many fun vehicles I’ve always wanted to and in the end will have no regrets bc I did so. Once I have the gt3 I’m never selling it so I have to make sure I experience enough beforehand, so I never have to wonder

[@drefinesse2]

Best bet is to get a g80 m3 seems like you have a passion for the m3 and with updated technology ,hp etc I think you might love it

[@enntlo]

Man the e88s make the mineral gray pop like crazy! Love the way the car sits man, hoping to upgrade from my rias to lms or e88s for my f80

[@Autofreakgarage]

The e88’s are currently for sale so if interested, let me know!

[@Ruben.Fark29]

I’d love to see you drive the F80 more, make vids about it like this one, maybe POV videos, put that gts hood on for sure. And then just go straight for the gt3 when the time comes since that’s your true dream car

[@Autofreakgarage]

I re-watched this video a dozen times after I finished editing it. Not because I enjoy hearing/looking at myself (quite the opposite to be honest), but I really enjoyed seeing the f80 being driven. Tried something new with the b roll of the car as I was driving. It was a fun video to make and edit. Good indication I should get more driving videos out on the channel. Appreciate the insight. I often wonder going right to the top is a smart move. The GT3 is the end of the line for me. Getting one at such an early age... what's after that?

[@devinlee8488]

Take your time and enjoy the ride. Like you my issue is if I’m paying that much money for say a gt3, it has to be the perfect spec for me or else I won’t be happy. Picked up my LCI g80 not too long ago, taking my time with the mods. Such a capable and easy car to drive fast, although not as super engaging but I have my STI if I ever need to row gears.

[@daviddiaz9953]

Sick F80 build! As a content creator I’d imagine the G80 would be the next step and better suited for the channel currently as you can do a lot more similar to the F80. With the Porsche you kinda just appreciate them as is lol. Nonetheless both great options. Don’t think I’m ready to see the F80 leave the channel though haha

[@Autofreakgarage]

As much as I love creating videos for the channel, I wouldn't be basing any financial moves on what would do well or not. I would only be making a move if 100% made sense on my end. I will be sharing the journey/ownership either way.

[@cayetano6547]

Tough spot. I advocate for getting whatever you like while being financially responsible. I believe the G80 is a lateral step so I'd save and go for the GT3. If you are like me, if I'm thinking too much about something too much , I'll eventually end up with it haha Keep in mind that at the end of the day, if the GT is too much to handle financially you can always re-sell. My 2 cents!

[@Autofreakgarage]

Thinking too much about something too much…. I can relate to this very much so haha.

[@phiL_2022]

Jersey local as well - if you ever do decide to sell the car hope timing lines up when I’m ready to purchase my f80 🤣 just have to convince wifey first!

[@Autofreakgarage]

Anything is always for sale at the right price

[@HawkHand-c9b]

Manual g87 build would be pretty sick🔥🔥I have been dreaming of my own for a while now

[@Autofreakgarage]

Something about the g87 I can’t get behind. Even seeing them modified and on the road, they still haven’t grown on me.

[@HawkHand-c9b]

@Autofreakgarage yeah true haha, the ones with the alpha n kits are the only that stand out to me and that's how id want to do it

[@matthewa398]

Do you daily the f80 year round and do you get snow where you live? I want to get one but the thing that’s stopping me is that fact that I live in Ohio and we get snow. I have an older Altima that I’d keep, but I don’t see a point in having 2 four door cars and the f82 doesn’t really do it for me.

[@Autofreakgarage]

I have a daily driver that I use everyday. The f80 stays stored in the garage during winter. The f80 is plenty capable for year round as long as you have the proper winter tire setup for the colder months.

[@tfk7106]

M cars and 911s are not interchangeable. I learnt this the hard way and advise you not to trade one for the other. You're probably better off keeping the f80 until you can manage to Add a gt3 (even if that means a pdk-s 991.1 instead of a 991.2 manual). If you really have to swap m3 for 911, maybe a (mod friendly) turbo s merges the g80 and gt3 you're contemplating better.

[@harrisonk_1991]

Sounds to me like spec’ing and ordering a G80 is the best option. If the M3 has always been your go-to car (to the extent you’ve obsessed about M3s for years), I think the obvious choice is spec and order a G80 M3. It sounds like there are very few mods remaining for your F80 and between now (to the extent you have some mods at home and you have some other mods on order) and the time that the G80 delivered to you, you can finish the F80, enjoy it, and sell it. While I hear your points with the GT3, I don’t think the GT3 sounds like the right opportunity for you right now for a few reasons. First, the M3 has always been your go-to car. You’ve had two (I believe) and have not had the opportunity to spec one yourself. To the extent the next generation M3 is hybrid, I suspect you’ll choose the G80 over the new generation and if that’s the case, you would’ve missed your opportunity to spec an M3 yourself. With respect to closing the door on G80 M3 opportunities, my suspicion is once you move to a GT3, you’ll likely never come back to an M3 and to the extent you do, it’ll likely be after the next generation hybrid M3 is introduced and if you go for the G80, you wont be able to spec it yourself. Second, you’ve been a sedan guy for a while (G35, STI, F80) and the G80 continues with the sedan body style, which I think is even more important for you right now having three young children. I understand this car isn’t your daily driver and you use your truck (or presumably your wife’s car) to drive around your kids, but what happens if you’re in the F80 and unexpectedly need to run to school or daycare to pick up one or more of your kids? That’s not possible in the GT3. The GT3 seems like a stretch for you right now, which would be worth it but not without some hesitation. It sounds like a 991.1 GT3 is more manageable/comfortable for you, but your heart is with the 991.2. Even if you can find the perfect spec 991.1, I think you’ll continually be wishing you held out for that 991.2. If you find the perfect spec 991.2 and stretch to buy it, you might feel uncomfortable with the cost of the mods and or maintenance and therefore feel restricted. I’ve been thinking about a 911 myself and often feel like it would cause me to feel something similar to house poor and therefore not enjoy it as much as I thought I would. This might be a stretch, but my feeling is you were absolutely blown away by your week with your friend’s GT3 and if that week didn’t result in you being dead set in selling the F80 and getting a GT3 at all costs, this isn’t the right time for a GT3. Buy the G80, enjoy one last generation of G80 that you spec yourself and do the M Performance delivery and by the time you’re done with the G80, I think the stars will align and you’ll jump into the GT3 and never look back.

[@Autofreakgarage]

I truly appreciate this response. Thank you for listening and watching the video entirely and providing some great value. You hit the nail on the head about the G80. I fear it's an opportunity that it'll be my last chance to spec and order my ideal M3 from the dealer before things start to change for this car. The market is changing so quickly. I don't think it's about being "house poor" or anything of that nature. I wouldn't be talking about one or flirting with the idea if I wasn't comfortable spending the coin. I think it's more about enjoying the journey and progression instead of going right to the top. I feel I'll almost enjoy the GT3 more getting another car or two prior working my way up the ladder. Again, appreciate your insight

[@Newyen6MT]

I absolutely the F80 compared to newer G80s. They just don’t seem as exciting and raw feeling. Can’t forgot about the looks either and it’s not my favorite compared to F80. I think GT3 is the end goal, who wouldn’t want it to be. Smiles per gallon! I understand your thought with savings for your family while also being a bit selfish for owning a car that’ll come out ~200k to spec. My dream would also be able to own a GT3 one day, but I’d def want to have a house and be financial stable as I’m still young.

[@TigroShiro]

Definitely not doing a single turbo, heard it’s too clunky on F80s. Pure Turbos for my F80 CS

[@saloom7438]

I just got a g80 just needs exhausts and a tune easly 750 hp, easly masters the streets

[@Autofreakgarage]

Congrats! To me, it’s not about the power level. I’m not a number hunter so I wouldn’t be chasing that. I chase feeling and how a certain experience makes me feel. But the s58 definitely is an easy power house.

[@JUNIOR-ot4bb]

LOVE THE POV

[@aydanmedrano7906]

Have you ever thought of going back to an older car? E46, E92 etc… I think it would make for cool content. Although doing a new car would be sick as well!

[@Autofreakgarage]

Of course. E92 has always been a car I’d love to build. Market on them is still too crazy though. Finding one to my standards would be tough without spending f80 money. I already owned an e46 m3 so not sure if I’d want to do one again. Great car but I think it was a one and done for me.

[@aydanmedrano7906]

@@AutofreakgarageYeah I definitely agree e92 prices are wack right now 🤣 but definitely great cars especially when done right. E46 M3 is the same I love mine but man can it be such a pain sometimes…

[@lilmonstergame01]

Top mount turbo

[@Mathuzela3156]

I vote G80 man! Plenty of time to buy a used Porsche. EXTREMELY LIMITED time to ORDER your personal spec M3. This is your last calling to make your perfect M3 dream a reality! The dream of owning your perfect Porsche is not limited by time. People usually take very good care of Porsches in general, you will definitely be able to find your perfect spec years from now. Either way I'm excited for what comes next!

[@CarSaiko]

Nah, no new build, could single turbo the M3 tho 🙏🏻

[@zakwanelawton3567]

I wouldn’t get the G80, because in my opinion, that would be a lateral move the options of cars that you want the only step up in my opinion is the Porsche also isn’t the G80 automatic only?

[@Autofreakgarage]

Base you can get in manual. Competition is zf (auto only)

[@f3rmtheworm178]

Keep building the F80, I get tons of ideas from you everytime you upload, hands down things I didn’t know could be done to it I learn from you, hopefully you re fall in love with it and keep it.

[@Autofreakgarage]

Will continue to build the F80 either way. It's a fantastic chassis to build upon with a huge aftermarket support. I am still in love with it and never wasn't. The new e88's made me love it even more.

[@Stilo95]

How do you like the Eventuri intake? What's the service interval? Is it easy to clean the filter? I own an F82 and I've been considering it but haven't had the courage to pull the trigger.

[@Autofreakgarage]

Love it! The gains are very noticeable. It's easily the nicest fitting and looking intake I've ever had the opportunity to own and install. If you are looking for tons of induction noise, you'll probably want to look into a different option as the induction noise is fairly subdued compared to other options. It does sound very nice though. A more mature sound, if you will. But the gains and overall fit and finish is worth it to me.

[@Stilo95]

@@Autofreakgarage Great! What's the induction noise like? Does it still sound like an S55 engine or the sound is completely different? How hard is it to clean the filter?

[@Autofreakgarage]

@Stilo95 I give some sound clips in the install video kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXnYdoCnh66dgqcsi=P7hoG7R-8HtpOAH6 Filters are easy to access but don’t require much maintenance.

[@Stilo95]

@@Autofreakgarage Thank you very much! Btw I would wait buying a new car if I were you. This F80 came out beautifully, it's comfortable for your family too. Keep hunting the GT3, but be happy with your F80 too because it's a dream car. I love your channel, keep the good videos coming!

[@samuelhall2397]

'Complete' the F80 enjoy it for a year then GT3. G80 will be great but still very similar.

[@marquinferary384]

So torn in my m3 market experience because the f80 market is clashing with the g80 market now. I love the f80 since I was in high school but now the point the world is at now I can get an xdrive g80 for sub 70k 30k miles or less when the f80 market is 55k plus for a clean spec

[@Autofreakgarage]

Drive both. Despite being the “same” car, they are both very different. Yes, there are similarities in both, but it’s a clear choice when you drive both back to back. The new tech and updates will usually win for most people, but try to focus on the overall driving feel.

[@marquinferary384]

@@Autofreakgarageyes sir 🫡

[@camai75]

Either keep the F80 or make the jump to the GT3…From hearing you talk the last few videos…you want the Porsche

[@bigbauer66]

I still highly dislike the G80 front bumper. I'd rather see more content from the F80, or if you dont go to the GT3 (which would be my choice), i would go with a G82. The 2 door looks a lot better imo 😊

[@Autofreakgarage]

I truly am not a fan of the g82. Same way with the f82. I don’t mind a clean one but I much prefer the f80 and g80 lines.

[@aombarbor]

Is that OEM steering wheel? it feel bulky maybe just me

[@Autofreakgarage]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4C1Z3h7a9uch6ssi=nPAz0Dj4CG94ulUU

[@Cb_30]

Build and spec G80 M3 CS. base g80 6mt is the same car as the f80, awd g80 is cool but you dont drive your car in winter. F80 is perfect the way it is. Lets say u sell for $75k add 25k$ for a 100k dp, then add another $100k for a gt3 is kinda crazy lmao

[@Autofreakgarage]

Haha pretty wild to see what it would take to get there.

[@hooptie157]

I’m also shopping for a gt3 and while I can buy it I wonder how it feels to actually beat on a 200k car? I want to be able to buy it and thrash on it without worrying. If I mess up a 70k car it is what it is. A 200k car is a whole different game lol. Every single tiny imperfection, mileage, dme blip affects the value. See just typing that I’m worried about the resale value which means I actual might have enough to just enjoy the damn thing.

[@Autofreakgarage]

If resale value is what worries you, then it sounds like it may not be the right car for you. In order to enjoy the car to the fullest, you need to have a clear mind about what could happen if you actually drive it.

[@hooptie157]

Yeah man. Maybe I need just buy it outright and enjoy it worry free. Maybe 6 more months of saving

[@goodnaruk]

Maybe we can help each other in the hunt for a GTS hood, Theres a company called Neslon Racing Design, they make CF parts in house to great tolerances. They need an OEM hood to mold and model and they can produce a high quality domestic product worthy of putting on the car for a fraction of the price of the OEM hood, and far higher quality than the Chinese examples widely available on the market. Maybe you have some community connections which could facilitate getting a hood to nelson for a few weeks?

[@Autofreakgarage]

Sounds like a viable option to get something made state side. Although, finding an OEM f8x hood is fairly easy. I am sure they could find one from a salvaged car on the cheap. I am not sure if any of my connections would help aide in their development.

[@goodnaruk]

@@Autofreakgarage Sorry, to clarify they would need an OEM CS/GTS hood to make a quality rep.

[@6spddan]

Just get a gt4. Also what do you do for work? Great content man keep it up

[@Autofreakgarage]

As great as the gt4 is, I’d have 911 envy immediately.

[@paulhalley2366]

Not thinking about a e92? Buy far my favourite m3. I just love coupes

[@Autofreakgarage]

Always been a car I’ve wanted to build. I just think the market on them is a little all over the place. For something I’d be interested in, it’s f80 money.

[@Nick-hz2kl]

Get the Porsche . We saw how happy you were in your friends 911 last month

[@Autofreakgarage]

Still smiling from it

[@FidermanX]

Is he trying to convince himself or us? The G80 new is not worth it. It will not hold its value. It will not bring you closer to what you want. It will make you feel good for a year. It’s the damn Porsche bug. Once you are bitten, you are addicted for life. Get the GT3 but make sure to buy an expensive diamond ring for her first. It just makes the discussion much easier.

[@Autofreakgarage]

You can direct the question towards me. Just simply having a conversation. One that many of us contemplate on the daily. This discussion is part of the progress. It’s not always about the end product, but the journey. Enjoy every aspect of the process. The plan, the hunt, the build, and even the sale. Been married for over 10 years young grasshopper. Sold my e46 m3 back in the day to help fund an engagement ring and jump start our life. My priorities have always and will always be straight.

[@thoth_bitcoin]

My wife says buy whatever I want. No ring at all. Weird.

[@DEM3NTD]

​@thoth_bitcoin mine too so long as it doesn't put any risk or stain on our financial obligations, future plans or the kiddos!

[@jimjw4200]

Guess it depends on how much ull actually get for the M3

[@Autofreakgarage]

This isn't a deciding factor if I make the move or not.

[@aaronbrown4366]

Definitely skip the G80 and go to the Porsche when the time is right. I think with your taste, a spec’d G80 will clear $100k easy. It would make sense if you planned to keep it forever or if there was a profit to be made, but I think you’d lose a bit of money on it once you’re ready to sell, and even though your enjoyment comes from the journey, all that could have gone to the gt3. But really, you just gotta do what makes you happy, we’re not here for long and if enjoying a G80 for a couple years then jumping into a gt3 is within financial reason, that’s not a bad time to have. For the gts hood, I’d say go aftermarket. I live in LA, it’s probably the BMW capital of the world at this point, so we have many options for parts out here that you can go in and look at. Those hoods have gotten really good over the years. You’d have to order from somewhere reputable like Suvneer. Make sure you’re getting a copy from a new mold, once the mold has been in use for a while, that’s when fitment issues come up. If there’s no supplier local to you that you could go try the hood on for yourself, see if any of the companies are willing to test fit one for you with video, that’s probably not a normal ask, but can’t hurt when you’re spending $1000+. Finding an oem gts hood in mineral grey will probably be difficult and even if you do find one, I doubt the color will match perfectly and that’ll probably bug you more than any fitment issue from an aftermarket one. OEM hoods probably $5k, spending $1500 for an aftermarket hood and paint might be worth the gamble and if you don’t like it, I’m sure you could sell it easily and get close to if not all your money back.

[@Autofreakgarage]

Yes, I have spec'd out one with a dealer for both indiv exterior and interior with all the options I am interested in. It ticked over the 100k mark.

[@rjgonzalez9471]

It’s wont stop till you get a Porsche 😢

[@Autofreakgarage]

Could be right, but always wonder what I would feel once I reach that top level. Is there ever light at the end of the tunnel? Always will be that what if you know.

[@keyshawn.r22]

It’s time for a g80 🥳

[@Nate_H.]

You're F80 is perfect man, I'd just enjoy it and wait for the timing to be right for the GT3. The G80 is still ugly as hell (just my honest opinion).... plus, it's huge and not in the best dimensions. It's 5.2 inches longer than the F80, but only .4 inches wider, plus 550+ lbs heavier.

[@boosTiMon]

Real men (and women) shift H patterns and not paddles lol ok sequentials are amazing too but that’s another level of amazing. I like the fact you’re not a paddle man.

[@devo6704]

Wait what happened to the Scooby name? lol

[@Autofreakgarage]

Changed a while ago. Went over it all in a video.

[@Gator115]

Hmm, a G80 would be cool but i dont think the driving experience would be as fun as the F80, more numb, too many sensors/tech

[@18zips80]

Disagree. Have a g80 now and miss nothing about the f80.

[@mypalAbra]

Yeah drove my friend’s manual g80 and wasn’t thrilled

[@18zips80]

@ I think if you drive a g80 without the buckets it’s half the experience. That’s my honest opinion. Doesn’t feel like the same car

[@18zips80]

@@Gator115 very similar experience. It’s just a nicer car, newer tech, and everything feels a little more premium. S58 is just better at making power and it’s bulletproof. With a tune they are even more rowdy than an f80. And you have to get one with the buckets to get the full experience. You feel the car far more, and seating position is way better.

[@sneadoo]

hold off, don’t get into a G80 when your F80 is better. enjoy the F80 until the right porsche comes around.

[@D3s1res]

Get a G80 😮‍💨

[@lilmonstergame01]

Supra

[@tsuave3431]

It’s go time g82

[@jaydstewart]

I identify with the guilt of indulging your selfish car hobby perhaps at the expense of your children. That being said, the GT3 is essentially endgame material. G80 doesn’t seem to be much of an upgrade from what you already have with the F80. If you have the wherewithal to swing a 991.2 manual GT3, I HIGHLY doubt you will look back in 5 years and think that it was a mistake to buy it. If you are meeting your savings goals for your kids and your lifestyle will effectively stay the same if you buy a GT3, the choice is clear.

[@Autofreakgarage]

I am glad I am not the only one who relates to the feeling of guilt haha. Easy to push that feeling down, but as you said. The GT3 is endgame. What's after that? I think what I am craving is a new build. Throwing the E88's on the F80 definitely renewed my love for the F80, so I can see myself hanging onto it a bit longer before I truly commit.

[@hy2473]

G80 or 991.2 , skip 991.1

[@PLAYER2035]

Didn’t you literally just put new wheels and speakers in the car? What a waste

[@Autofreakgarage]

Yep. And putting more mods on over winter 👍🏻

[@tarugo1993]

Stop compromising and just get to a 911 straight. What r u delaying this for ? Youre gonna spec out a brand new g80 then put money into it which will put u well close to a 911 then yap about “oh i couldve just gotten a 911 given the amount of money i spent on this with the car” like how u said in one of your vids. You keep saying your f80 is perfect and youre not chasing numbers. Jumping to a g80 with that in mind is an expensive lateral move. Stop lying to yourself

[@Autofreakgarage]

Not compromising by any means. It’s about the progression. Appreciating each step. Going to the top right away is fun, but what’s after that? It’s more about the journey than the end result.

[@JanBrooks]

Sell up