M8 Sample Time Stretching Deep Dive

A quick look at one technique for time stretching samples on the Dirtywave M8.
*NOTE* Per Trash80 via Discord: since firmware 3.0, you should use LT[1-4] and not LOP to adjust the loop start position along the waveform.
#Dirtywave #M8 #Tracker #Music #Sampler

[@shifteleven]

For me, the LOP command is that I’m not able to scrub very far in the track. Like, say I want to use the duck fartz sound - I’m not able to seek to it. However, if I use the LT1 command, then I can. LT1 is the command for LFO1 to retrig at a given offset. This means we can tell the LFO to start at the middle, which starts the sample playback at the middle. So with the duckfartz loop - offset 40 is the start of the second bar (25% of 256 (0xFF), 80 for the third bar, and C0 for the forth. With a 4 bar loop, every every change with edit+up offsets the start by a quarter note - which I find very easy to map in my head.

[@monsterlogostudios]

Awesome - great tip

[@noartifacts1983]

Nice! It's good that you noted that you need to set the sample length to 0 in this case ! I couldn't figure it out

[@JMX246]

Really well explained - thanks

[@isaacwarne7758]

That was fucking great. That you for sharing that. Definitely helpful.

[@monsterlogostudios]

Awesome. Glad it was useful - thanks for the support.

[@roboctopus]

This was really useful, as I had forgotten how to do this and in the original video on this subject, the M8 isn't close to the camera--hard to see the screen details. It wasn't working for me at first because I didn't notice you need the length set to zero. Just want to point that out in case someone else is confused. It won't work without setting the length to zero.

[@monsterlogostudios]

Glad this was helpful. Great point about the length - I should have made a bigger deal of it.

[@findjonmoses]

Thank you!!! Saved my life, I was thinking my M8 is broken

[@__.Music.__]

Great tips! Thank you.

[@monsterlogostudios]

Appreciate the support.

[@MOGmog]

great! thanks for sharing!

[@LaChona420k]

helped a ton thanks bro

[@zero.the.prototype]

Thanks, Ryan. Good tips. ♡

[@monsterlogostudios]

Appreciate the support and the kind words. 🙏

[@sarundayo]

Just got the M8 and it's insane! Though the learning curve is steep in the beginning, does pay off to learn it well. Hope you'd make more vids like this :D

[@monsterlogostudios]

Thank you for the support! More vids on the way as time permits. Let me know if you have any specific requests.

[@sarundayo]

@monsterlogostudios Making a drum beat from scratch, rythim and melody, applying effects/envelopes/lfos, so much to learn really 😅

[@monsterlogostudios]

@sarundayo A little bit of everything. I’ll see what I can do.

[@savnac]

thanks for sharing! i'm saving this video to try it tomorrow.4:40 really intrigued me. may I ask where you got your keycaps? thanks in advance!

[@monsterlogostudios]

Thank you so much. Keycaps came from mkultra.click

[@rorz999]

This was a bit of a relevation for me - the pitching up/down while preserving the length isn't something I'd thought to try! Thanks. I think the general principle for how the timestretching works here is the same as on the Digitakt - is that your understanding too?

[@monsterlogostudios]

Yes…or it was prior to the 1.5 update. With v1.5 introduced earlier this year, there are now dedicated Werp and Repitch machines for time stretching and pitch effects on the Digitakt.

[@rorz999]

​@@monsterlogostudioscheers. From what I understand of werp though, is that it basically just does this, rather than it being a new time-stretching algorithm. I could be wrong though!

[@monsterlogostudios]

@rorz999 likely correct. Having a “machine” just eliminates the hassle of setting it up. Much easier to use now.

[@voidenterthehighlights]

Dunno why but my sample changes the pitch whenever i try this, im trying to stretch up a 120 bpm sample into 140

[@voidenterthehighlights]

I'm on ver 3.2.2

[@HellenButterlips]

@@voidenterthehighlightswhat note are you entering in your phrase to trigger the loop? Maybe try correcting the pitch there by adjusting your note up/down.

[@voidenterthehighlights]

@@HellenButterlips C1. It's just not working for me. Tried different samples but it just doesn't sound right

[@monsterlogostudios]

Can you post a picture of your Instrument Mods screen?