MA. v Karen Read Trial Day 23 - Trooper Proctor Cross Examination

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Emily D. Baker

Emily D. Baker

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@maryellen303
@maryellen303 5 ай бұрын
I was a detective for 30 years. There is not one officer I know that would not have run out of his house if anyone, no less a friend , was found dead on my lawn. These people are awful. Proctor got every bit of his supposed evidence from Jen McCabe, including her medical conditions. That is the only thing he used to make his decision that Karen was guilty. There was no actual investigation, only what they could make fit into their theory. They even tried to influence the medical examiner. The only truth told in this case was by the people unrelated to the Canton PD.
@judithmcgill3913
@judithmcgill3913 5 ай бұрын
Fully agree how unethical was that? He's a slacker doesn't want to do the work. Doesn't want to use protocol.
@warriorb_yotch
@warriorb_yotch 5 ай бұрын
But he got emotional SMH 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️ 😂
@krystalbrooks3418
@krystalbrooks3418 5 ай бұрын
These people are really something else. I have very strong suspicions that Mr Higgins and Mr. Albert know exactly what happened. They talk about the Trooper finding or planting tail light pieces…what if someone other than the Trooper planted that evidence…nightmare investigation like no other.
@janeevans1859
@janeevans1859 5 ай бұрын
@@warriorb_yotchwhat’s the point?
@warriorb_yotch
@warriorb_yotch 5 ай бұрын
@@janeevans1859 sarcasm
@TeresaLovesRetro
@TeresaLovesRetro 5 ай бұрын
The fact that Proctor says the word "integrity" with a straight face is amazing to me. The fact that the whole court doesn't burst out laughing when he says it is even more amazing!
@ashieloveful
@ashieloveful 5 ай бұрын
Apparently a juror laughed at it 😂
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
​@@ashieloveful that's fabulous!
@YouTuberight-t5j
@YouTuberight-t5j 5 ай бұрын
I couldn’t believe that he didn’t know what integrity meant. He gave an explanation that was the most absurd thing that I have ever heard. I’m stunned.
@shelby477
@shelby477 5 ай бұрын
​@@KZbinright-t5jWell it could be part of it, but he doesn't even do that. 😂
@johns1625
@johns1625 5 ай бұрын
Also "compelling evidence" 🤮
@melz3671
@melz3671 5 ай бұрын
If he developed compelling evidence against Ms.'s Read then where the hell is it and when are they going to decide to show it to the jury and everyone else!?!?
@GreenEyedGumby
@GreenEyedGumby 5 ай бұрын
Hold your horses, I’m sure it’s only 25 witnesses away!
@Diamond1234
@Diamond1234 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, where IS that "overwhelming evidence", Mr. Proctor, because from where I'm sitting, none of the evidence so far says points to Karen Reed, if anything, it's pointing toward literally everyone else because EVERYONE IS ACTING SUSPICIOUS! All the butt dials and "we TOOOOTALLY didn't talk to each other about this, heck, we don't even REALLY know each other" and getting rid of evidence like our phones and dog, as well as the botched evidence that can't be trusted because it's all contaminated or gathered in the worst possible way! Other than the clothes tossed into the corner in the medical place because that's normal, you screwed up EVERYTHING in this case!
@melz3671
@melz3671 5 ай бұрын
@@GreenEyedGumby 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you right! I'll wait.... Oh wait, that was for the defense, nevermind! 🤣
@CoffeeLoverRx
@CoffeeLoverRx 5 ай бұрын
@@GreenEyedGumby😂😂
@joshn1678
@joshn1678 5 ай бұрын
It's shocking, like why haven't we heard any real evidence. The taillight pieces don't seem believeable, they're HUGE lol, and no one said her light was broken like that. Where is the medical examiner showing the injuries and how the CAR caused them?
@rachaelreis6530
@rachaelreis6530 5 ай бұрын
I find it irrelevant that Karen drinks on top of her medical conditions. It's hard to be sick. People cope in different ways. Not always healthy ones. It's not any different for people with health issues.
@kalkal6125
@kalkal6125 5 ай бұрын
Amen
@MimiDidi121
@MimiDidi121 5 ай бұрын
Also, those glasses of during were clear liquid. We don’t know if she was drinking water or soda between alcohol drinks. We did see her pour a shot in them a timer or two. I do the exact same thing when I’m out drinking. I have ulcerative colitis, which is different, admittedly, Crohn’s, but alcohol absorbs faster when you large intestine is inflamed. If she really drank as many drinks as they counted, as small as she is, she would be staggering. Plus, I saw an a live chat. One of our students say that she had gone out to drinks with her twice and she always orders a drink and then water once or twice before cocktail. I’d like to order the mixer and the alcohol separate so I can control how much alcohol is in there. Some bars make them very strong.
@Amelia_Rose_333
@Amelia_Rose_333 5 ай бұрын
@@MimiDidi121 according to Karen herself she had 4 drinks that night. This is from her interview with ABC news (I re-watched last night.) 4 is not 9 (or whatever ridiculous number the cops are trying to say she drank.)
@SilverDraco
@SilverDraco 5 ай бұрын
She has no colon, hence the colostomy bag, and idk how alcohol digests anymore. School was a long time ago! 😂​@@MimiDidi121
@swantron4335
@swantron4335 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree! I also have gastrointestinal issues but don't *not* go out because I want to be involved in social events with friends. I often get drinks that mix with sprite or ginger ale so that I can ask the bartender for only that but my glass looks the same. Easier than explaining to everyone.
@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend
@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend 5 ай бұрын
I'm really puzzled why some people still seem laser focused on Karen being guilty. I don't know if she's guilty - neither do you - and we never will thanks to the shoddy policework. If you care about justice, at what point do you direct your focus to the people who completely compromised the investigation?
@okoriesgirl6391
@okoriesgirl6391 5 ай бұрын
Amen!!!
@Diamond1234
@Diamond1234 5 ай бұрын
Who knows, maybe they want attention from chat and/or Emily, I see a lot of randos saying "In my opinion, Karen's guilty!" and that's it, which tells me that they are hoping someone will ask why or get mad so they can go off lol.
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
I think some of them (not all) are from the community and invested in some way. Possibly some of them either know the McAlberts or even are one or two of them. I'm sure there are some but I honestly can't even understand how anyone who came into this neutral could actually be convinced she is guilty based on the evidence. I've asked some people and never gotten much of an answer other than they don't think a coverup is possible or they don't see motivation from other people.
@NottyAries
@NottyAries 5 ай бұрын
Probably a weird mixture of confirmation bias and sunk cost fallacy.
@mitch6969123
@mitch6969123 5 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@Diamond1234for sure
@NottyAries
@NottyAries 5 ай бұрын
The judge didn't like him saying "shame on you sir" because it wasn't a question. He should have said, "have you any shame!?" 😂
@judithmcgill3913
@judithmcgill3913 5 ай бұрын
😊
@JackiSueM
@JackiSueM 5 ай бұрын
Bingo!!!! What if any shame?
@NottyAries
@NottyAries 5 ай бұрын
@@JackiSueM 😂😂😂💀
@mininjas
@mininjas 5 ай бұрын
I guess it's "argumentative"
@lauraventerosa3010
@lauraventerosa3010 5 ай бұрын
She does not like him. He pushes it
@lizzimmermann7164
@lizzimmermann7164 5 ай бұрын
I haven’t seen my brother’s best friend in like 20 years but if you asked me if I know him the answer is “yes, that’s my brother’s best friend.”
@sammurphhhhHH
@sammurphhhhHH 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I think I could pick out my sibling’s friends from about that far back too. If you have a good relationship with your siblings then you’re going to cross paths with their best friend enough time to for sure know who they are
@ravenzyblack
@ravenzyblack 4 ай бұрын
@@sammurphhhhHH- Considering Trooper Proctor texted his sister more than his wife. I’m sure he knew everything about all of her friends. They texted back-and-forth at least eight times a day…EACH DAY!!
@MykenGarciaBeauty
@MykenGarciaBeauty 5 ай бұрын
Am I the only person, when he kept trying to insert, “we had compelling evidence that Ms. Read did it.” SCREAM at the screen, “what compelling evidence!!?!?!?! Show me!!!!”
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
Definitely not the only one!
@supergran62
@supergran62 5 ай бұрын
I was yelling “what evidence other than your prepared and oft repeated script”
@joshn1678
@joshn1678 5 ай бұрын
It's insane, we know the Tail light pieces were planted, NO ONE saw her brake light that broken lol. So we need some kind of evidence, have a doctor tell me a car could cause Johns injuries, because I just don't see it.
@JulieeeB
@JulieeeB 5 ай бұрын
Exactly what I said out loud too! WHERE. IS. IT.
@helenat2446
@helenat2446 5 ай бұрын
And supposedly had the compelling evidence within 16hrs. Even though they were picking up tail light pieces for weeks 😵‍💫
@okoriesgirl6391
@okoriesgirl6391 5 ай бұрын
I don't know about Proctor, but I love Yanetti! I love how he is just watching Jackson having a very good day in court. Lol
@here.for.the.music.
@here.for.the.music. 5 ай бұрын
Same 😂 when proctor was talking crap about him he couldn’t look more unbothered 😅 kind of looked like he was thinking THIS guy thinks I’m an @ss? 😂 the audacity.
@deannetronsdal409
@deannetronsdal409 5 ай бұрын
Same! It was pretty decent camera work today - covering the witness and those he was sh*t talking about!
@simsadie14
@simsadie14 5 ай бұрын
I like Yanetti’s style more than Jackson’s but god they’re both so intelligent and passionate
@joshn1678
@joshn1678 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I like Yanetti, he seems like a good dude. Jackson has that fast speaking lawyer feel, but honestly, he's done a great job for Karen.
@tashiaredd3421
@tashiaredd3421 5 ай бұрын
I love Yanetti as well and how he turned his body so the jury could see his face and reactions. Especially when he was shaking his head no on some of Proctors answers. I wish he would’ve been the one questioning Proctor. Seeing as how Proctor “still doesn’t care for him”.
@toddmurphy523
@toddmurphy523 5 ай бұрын
The socks could have been important to place in evidence and tested. If Victim had gone into the home, most people would have removed their snowy shoes. The socks could have collected the german shepherds fur/hair and testing them could have answered the question if victim DID enter the home.
@Stephanie-yp9vl
@Stephanie-yp9vl 5 ай бұрын
OMG... that is a wonderful point. I cant believe they didn't do that... i wonder if it was not taken on purpose
@Pray4USA
@Pray4USA 5 ай бұрын
UNDERRATED COMMENT!!! 👏👏👏
@MShaiqable
@MShaiqable 5 ай бұрын
Well shit... damn!
@katharinamonch4223
@katharinamonch4223 4 ай бұрын
Or if they put cleaned shoes on him…..who is not wearing socks in this wheather???
@toddmurphy523
@toddmurphy523 4 ай бұрын
@@katharinamonch4223 He was wearing socks.... that's the whole point. The socks were not placed into evidence like everything else the victim was wearing.
@AliceM6192
@AliceM6192 5 ай бұрын
The fact that you paused the stream, right in the middle of a wtf moment, to help your son, makes me love you even more!! ❤
@bcastle2397
@bcastle2397 5 ай бұрын
Me too!!!❤
@larkgraham9522
@larkgraham9522 5 ай бұрын
Oh yes, your son was adorable! You work from home girl! Do your thing
@helenat2446
@helenat2446 5 ай бұрын
I was listening in the car and thought someone had come into court to say the pest inspector was there 😂
@cosacita
@cosacita 4 ай бұрын
Same 🥰
@brittanybozard1783
@brittanybozard1783 5 ай бұрын
The only report that anyone can locate in this case is the weather report lol😂
@mamasaurus564
@mamasaurus564 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@JackiSueM
@JackiSueM 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@DaniSouthMS
@DaniSouthMS 5 ай бұрын
Yep, and it was snowing. 😂
@MsBermudababy
@MsBermudababy 5 ай бұрын
"Exactly."
@lzk22
@lzk22 5 ай бұрын
Literally 😂
@mitch6969123
@mitch6969123 5 ай бұрын
Every time a witness says “absolutely”, they seem to be lying…
@sharontriffitt7031
@sharontriffitt7031 5 ай бұрын
And all the liars do a lot of sniffing too
@dikshaedythe6042
@dikshaedythe6042 5 ай бұрын
It's like they spoke among themselves and unconsciously are repeating absolutely after JM used it over and over. They all have the same intonation on absolutely.
@Sidra_193
@Sidra_193 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. It's become the hint. It would just be a no instead of a resounding absolutely not it just screams defensive.
@bonesonstones1
@bonesonstones1 5 ай бұрын
It sounds SO disingenuous.
@tcorris
@tcorris 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely is a lot like a witness saying “to tell you the truth” my next statement will be a lie.
@Amelia_Rose_333
@Amelia_Rose_333 5 ай бұрын
I find it SO maddening that all of these witnesses “can’t recall” their prior testimony, even if it’s just a few weeks or months before. If it’s the TRUTH there is no reason to need to “recall” the information because your testimony always stays the same. What you’re saying today would be the same as what you’d already said. 🚩🚩 🚨🚨🚨
@mamasaurus564
@mamasaurus564 5 ай бұрын
Exactly!!!
@NottyAries
@NottyAries 5 ай бұрын
Heck, Proctor forgot a statement he made to one of AJs questions, just 5 minutes later.
@mininjas
@mininjas 5 ай бұрын
Seriously. It's hard to forget court; it's slightly traumatizing
@susanlprince
@susanlprince 5 ай бұрын
That's my thinking. If you testified truthfully, why do you have to recall what you testified to? The truth will always be the truth.
@Honestfeedback1
@Honestfeedback1 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! I’ve been saying the same thing.
@ginagruber1732
@ginagruber1732 5 ай бұрын
After today I would be ready to acquit if I was on the jury. I felt so bad for her when they went into her colon issues. AND THE AUDACITY of proctor to complain of his character being attacked by Yannetti after what proctor said about Karen!
@judithmcgill3913
@judithmcgill3913 5 ай бұрын
no kidding
@judithmcgill3913
@judithmcgill3913 5 ай бұрын
they are using his testimony to bring their case, but why she was guilty very poor lawyering
@judithmcgill3913
@judithmcgill3913 5 ай бұрын
Observing his body doesn't tell me that he was in a car accident with no bruises or fractures no bruises on his legs where the bumper would've hit him
@Classic-Ov3rThinker
@Classic-Ov3rThinker 5 ай бұрын
Even Johns dad left when they started going thru the messages about Karens medical condition 😢
@joshn1678
@joshn1678 5 ай бұрын
​@@judithmcgill3913Yeah, to me he simply doesn't have the injuries of being backed into. It's possible, but just seems unlikely.
@dollarstoreloudiamondphillips
@dollarstoreloudiamondphillips 5 ай бұрын
This dude is the reason why so many people don’t like cops and don’t trust them.
@Stephanie-yp9vl
@Stephanie-yp9vl 5 ай бұрын
100%
@pandorah1801
@pandorah1801 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely!!
@trishnickles2236
@trishnickles2236 5 ай бұрын
Truly. Cops act like this and then wonder why people despise and don't trust them. Yah, right. "Back the blue." Only if you're part of their little crew and they like you.
@silikon2
@silikon2 5 ай бұрын
He's becoming the very poster child for police corruption. Some sort of monetary corruption is obviously bad, but railroading this woman into prison into what looks more and more like a frame up is way worse. I have now zero faith in Massachusetts police, but luckily don't live there. Look how calm and convincing he can be when not having to go through his astonishingly offensive texts. How many people has he put away like this.
@dollarstoreloudiamondphillips
@dollarstoreloudiamondphillips 5 ай бұрын
@@silikon2 imagine all the people who doesn’t have the money to get a proper defensen that has been railroaded by cops like this.
@Heatherboothe
@Heatherboothe 5 ай бұрын
Sooo.. Proctor kept an open mind going into this investigation but called Karen the c-word 16 hours in?
@thomasgcampbell
@thomasgcampbell 5 ай бұрын
Really wanted to hear Action Jackson ask him how many times he called JM a “C”
@TheAverageSavage1021
@TheAverageSavage1021 5 ай бұрын
Not even that- but was 100% certain she was going down for it- and was a whack job. I’m not a mass resident- but I need to find out where and whom we can write to- the hopefully not corrupted higher power about this demon being employed; about this da, prosecutor, and judge- this investigation; the civil rights violations- it’s unbelievable- seriously this would be a corny Hollywood movie because it’s so ridiculous it wouldn’t ever get the Green light because it’s unrealistic. Karen loved John- and John didn’t deserve this. Every day this case isn’t dismissed the more I fear for our safety and judicial systems
@Heatherboothe
@Heatherboothe 5 ай бұрын
@TheAverageSavage1021 I was thinking about that! Who can we call? If anyone finds out, I would love to know. I don't want to be a Karen but this is completely unacceptable.
@MsBermudababy
@MsBermudababy 5 ай бұрын
"Exactly!"
@joshn1678
@joshn1678 5 ай бұрын
Wasn't even that long lol, 10 hours later he said she was going to jail for this. Makes no sense.
@deannetronsdal409
@deannetronsdal409 5 ай бұрын
Alan Jackson - “Shame on you.” Holy crap!! That cross was 🔥!!!
@sabbathsermonthetypist
@sabbathsermonthetypist 5 ай бұрын
When did he say that
@CoffeeLoverRx
@CoffeeLoverRx 5 ай бұрын
@@sabbathsermonthetypist4:57:30
@christinanielsen9445
@christinanielsen9445 5 ай бұрын
Jacksons "SHAME ON YOU SIR" was so freaking personal🙈😂 Go get him, AJ! I absolutely loved it🤷🏽‍♀️😬😁
@helensmusings
@helensmusings 5 ай бұрын
Whether it was appropriate for the court or not, I have so much respect for Jackson for doing that. He's making it clear where he stands and what he's standing up for
@Violet-xg4bb
@Violet-xg4bb 5 ай бұрын
Frigging 💥 moment.
@christinanielsen9445
@christinanielsen9445 5 ай бұрын
Exactly ​@@helensmusings.. and maling it very clear, that the behaviour is absolutely outrageous coming from a Trooper!
@bethmccrae2714
@bethmccrae2714 5 ай бұрын
Alan Jackson attacked Harvey Weinstein rape victims. Shame on Alan Jackson
@bdylan225
@bdylan225 5 ай бұрын
And the look of disgust he had on his face when he said it made it even more impactful!
@5boysmomma
@5boysmomma 5 ай бұрын
Alan Jackson looks and sounds disgusted with trooper Proctor. And honestly I can't say that I blame him. Proctor has changed my perspective about police.
@timroberts6695
@timroberts6695 5 ай бұрын
Texting with all his friends, some in other states, and his co workers has exposed how great police corruption is. I would find it hard to trust any cops motives now after watching this trial.
@amandamosteller1371
@amandamosteller1371 5 ай бұрын
He didn't change my perspective on police officers but rather homicide detectives.. smh
@nicolepsy
@nicolepsy 5 ай бұрын
Not every cop in every department, state or agency is bad. Generalizing is a dangerous thing.
@5boysmomma
@5boysmomma 5 ай бұрын
I'm not saying that all police are bad. In evert profession you will find all kinds of corruption. What I'm trying to say is for the better part of my life I have trusted the police. Remember when we old ones were young and your parents were telling me if you get lost look for a police. And I think I have been looking at them like thank you for doing what we can't. I wouldn't want anyone in Massachusetts in law enforcement to make sure I get justice, because I don't think John O'Keefe family members have got to be cringing by now
@melindapye7435
@melindapye7435 5 ай бұрын
I mean, he represented Spacey so while we are disgusted, I doubt he is. This is a huge gift to the defense and I imagine he is delighted.
@deannetronsdal409
@deannetronsdal409 5 ай бұрын
Alan Jackson’s inflection skills are top notch! He could make anything sound suss!
@susanharrington8715
@susanharrington8715 5 ай бұрын
“exactly”
@Raven1303x
@Raven1303x 5 ай бұрын
Thankfully these people have been so shady on the stand he doesn’t have to try too hard. 😅
@deannetronsdal409
@deannetronsdal409 5 ай бұрын
Anyone else rethinking the casual way that they text message others? 😬 😅
@carrier8620
@carrier8620 5 ай бұрын
@@deannetronsdal409YES!
@xzio5728
@xzio5728 5 ай бұрын
Alan Jackson when to bat for his client with full emotions and in my book knocked out of this world. The ending especially was impactful with the point of Proctor dehumanizing his client was masterful. The look on Proctor's face as Jackson barraged him with his own words says it all. When Jackson asked about Proctor dehumanizing Karen, the look on his face was something. But when the prosecutor objected, there was this quick flash of relief to the point he almost smiles! Then when the Judge said "I'll give you this one Mr. Jackson", the look on Proctors face was priceless. Then that "Shame on you" comment at the end, damn.
@heathermcgovern1529
@heathermcgovern1529 5 ай бұрын
Should have said “sorry your Honor, my emotions got the best of me”
@larkgraham9522
@larkgraham9522 5 ай бұрын
Imagine having Jackson & Linetti going to bat for you!! ❤❤
@jjgirl3715
@jjgirl3715 5 ай бұрын
@@heathermcgovern1529 hahaha that's brilliant! 👏
@bcastle2397
@bcastle2397 5 ай бұрын
I have watched every minute of this court case with Emily. Is anyone else so exhausted and disillusioned that you just don't care anymore? Is that Lally's tactics to drive everyone to madness???😵‍💫 Does the jury feel that way??? Bless their hearts!!!
@sunshinemitch
@sunshinemitch 5 ай бұрын
YUP,YUP and i pray the jury feels this way. ugh
@eztalkz7069
@eztalkz7069 5 ай бұрын
lally has been so boring i wanna dyyyye my baloon knot
@lindajohnson7675
@lindajohnson7675 5 ай бұрын
Yes!
@deannetronsdal409
@deannetronsdal409 5 ай бұрын
The only thing that would redeem Lally at this point is if he’s actually torpedoing this case from the inside because he knows it’s garbage! 😂
@BlessedInTX248
@BlessedInTX248 5 ай бұрын
No! I'll never give up on the verdict! I'll not stop caring no matter how boring watching every minute of this trial gets! You guys & gals are obviously not as obsessed with this case as me. TBI survivor with obsessive tendencies. 😂
@Katelyn02217
@Katelyn02217 5 ай бұрын
I was pulled over by a Mass statie a few hours ago as I was listening to the end of this. (I forgot to put the new registration sticker on my plate. Oops. All good, though.) He was so kind, but I hate that I immediately wondered if he was like Proctor. That man has caused so much damage to the integrity of our state troopers, and I hope he suffers for it.
@timroberts6695
@timroberts6695 5 ай бұрын
And you question with good reason. Remember Proctor said in one text “as the chief would say”, the corruption runs deep.
@drddianesbryant
@drddianesbryant 4 ай бұрын
I’m 72 and, like my Mother, have lost any filters I ever had. I would have told the trooper what I was listening to and asked him if he knew Proctor. 😝
@Alexis84DE
@Alexis84DE 5 ай бұрын
While everybody else is focusing on those vile and heinous text messages (and I really can’t condemn them enough!!) I have two takeaways from today : 1. If Karen and John got into an argument, why did she return to HIS house? The kids were away at a sleepover. She wasn’t even supposed to stay over. When I get into a fight with my boyfriend, I go to MY home, not back to his 2. Proctor testified that he interviewed somebody together with Higgins. Why is Higgins, an ATF agent who does not work for the Canton PD and may be a potential witness to the events of the evening, interviewing people???
@xxtinkerbell91xx
@xxtinkerbell91xx 5 ай бұрын
Kayliegh was home. It was only the youngest at the sleepover. If you believe she's innocent, she's had the argument, gone to watch kayleigh and freaked when he's not turned up. If you believe she's guilty, she's pretending everything's OK and staying over for a cover
@willcochrane6949
@willcochrane6949 5 ай бұрын
I’m team Karen, but playing devil’s advocate, I think number 1 has a couple logical explanations in favor of the commonwealth. 1) She knew she hit John, and he wasn’t coming home to take care of the kid. 2) She didn’t know she hit John, but definitely hit him. Then she realized she was too drunk to try and take the much longer drive to where she was supposed to stay. Number 2 you’re spot on though. Even if Karen did it, and did it on purpose, the carelessness with the investigation is disgusting.
@jackiefoulk9982
@jackiefoulk9982 5 ай бұрын
Only the Nephew stayed at a friend's home
@Mrs.Pittforever
@Mrs.Pittforever 5 ай бұрын
She had been complaining about being responsible for the kids too much. She wanted to go to her own house because she wasn’t feeling well. John was supposed to be home but instead he chose to go to this party. That’s what she was upset about.
@Mrs.Pittforever
@Mrs.Pittforever 5 ай бұрын
That’s also why she was sleeping on the couch and not in bed. And I don’t know about you, but I’ve woken up in a panic in the middle of the night when somebody hasn’t come home.
@MelsDivination
@MelsDivination 5 ай бұрын
I don't usually comment on live streams after the fact but I'm catching this late on the replay. I am a Rhode Island local and we have a local news station here called "WPRI 12" that I used to like and follow until last night! Last night I saw they reported 2 separate things about Proctor's testimony on Monday and they left out every single negative bit and made him look like a HERO I couldn't believe what I witnessed! I left several comments on BOTH videos because really? This is our local news source and court tv, a national program is delivering more transparency! So for any of you not local to the area, even the RI news outlets are covering for these people even now!! And the comments towards Karen being 'clearly guilty' were disgusting. We are not even 1 hour from canton here and they could easily see KR and her family at any time and automatically have passed judgement from a news source leaving out all the key negatives... This trial has really blown my mind. I dated a RI correctional officer for a while and witnessed some gross things being swept under the rug while I was with him for his buddies, I knew they 'take care of their own' but this is beyond anything I ever expected.
@deannetronsdal409
@deannetronsdal409 5 ай бұрын
Oh wow! That’s so frustrating to hear! I’m glad you (and all of us!) have a reliable source here!
@annhank128
@annhank128 5 ай бұрын
Disappointing. Makes you wonder who the news station people know… tentacles everywhere..
@shkrjam84
@shkrjam84 5 ай бұрын
A lot of people woke up to this type of deception by legacy media during Depp v Heard. Some of them were shocked just how different the spin in the news and headlines was compared to what was actually happening in the trial. Really makes you realize just how easy it is to be snowed by local, national, and international media if you trust that they are delivering news for the purpose of good to the public, instead of what they’re actually doing - delivering what sells and what supports their own beliefs and narratives. They might be media corporations, but never forget they are corporations. 💵 talks.
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
That's so shameful coming out of local news and local reporters. The depp heard case taught me not to trust news reporting regarding trials but local news is usually better than national. It's just disappointing. Ugh.
@erinavery4577
@erinavery4577 5 ай бұрын
Most news is bought and paid for
@janewaysmom
@janewaysmom 4 ай бұрын
6:07:31 honestly, such a relief. This was by far, the biggest, most confusing part of the story. After 7 people telling me it was snowing, I thought, "but wait, what was the weather?" After 13 people telling me it was snowing, I thought "was it maybe a little snowy?" After 75 people telling me it was snowing, I thought "Maybe it was snowing." Now, finally, the weather service itself has told me, so after all those witnesses plus this, I finally know it was indeed snowing.
@rascal342
@rascal342 4 ай бұрын
finally i understood why the state decided to bring this case to court
@jennmoslek921
@jennmoslek921 5 ай бұрын
Just when you think Proctor couldn't get any worse, AJ comes out swinging & knocks it out of the park! Lally should have saved his breath on re-direct because there was no fixing anything Proctor said or did.
@laimanarbute4188
@laimanarbute4188 5 ай бұрын
I am on redirect of Proctor, and as soon as I think it can't get any wors, I am beeing proven wrong every time.
@Greeneyed1
@Greeneyed1 5 ай бұрын
"Proctor and the Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day"😅😅😅
@deannetronsdal409
@deannetronsdal409 5 ай бұрын
Underrated comment!! 😂 Good work!
@lauradeshotel3303
@lauradeshotel3303 5 ай бұрын
This is why Higgins ditched his phone. Higgins was a little shady. He should be investigated for other crimes...just saying.
@FrankieSmith-zv8ci
@FrankieSmith-zv8ci 5 ай бұрын
What I keep thinking about is how emotional Higgins was about the kids. If he was the one to do it then it would make sense if he was regretful about the impact his actions had on kids
@helensmusings
@helensmusings 5 ай бұрын
For me Higgins is suspect number one given the msgs to Karen Reed. I have a feeling due to the covering up of Colin being there, that whatever started Colin joined in
@mitch6969123
@mitch6969123 5 ай бұрын
@@helensmusingshe should of been because of those messages. In what world would the guy hookin up with the victims girlfriend not be investigated..
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
​@@FrankieSmith-zv8ci i thought the same thing during his testimony. The was him feeling guilty about putting them through this. He had a hand in it, either the death or the cover-up, and feels bad about how it impacted the kids though he feels justified about the rest of it.
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
​@@helensmusings at this point I am thinking Brian Albert, Colin Albert and Brian Higgins were involved and then the women got involved to help protect them and cover it up.
@thecatlimitdoesnotexist
@thecatlimitdoesnotexist 5 ай бұрын
You know…now that we’re 23 business days into this trial, if they were going to give us any compelling evidence before their case is closed, I don’t think the FBI would be investigating this case...
@LexieJay00
@LexieJay00 5 ай бұрын
Alan Jackson just moved up to my FIRST favorite Alan Jackson 😂 “Shame on you.” 👏🏾
@jessicawinsor4751
@jessicawinsor4751 5 ай бұрын
I love his pause and look before he says it! Sooo effective
@deannetronsdal409
@deannetronsdal409 5 ай бұрын
I bet Proctor wishes he was “way down yonder on the Chattahoochie….”
@JRay.R
@JRay.R 4 ай бұрын
@@deannetronsdal409 💯
@IrishGoodbyes
@IrishGoodbyes 5 ай бұрын
I never heard the term balloon knot before and I never want to hear it again.
@ravenzyblack
@ravenzyblack 4 ай бұрын
I could have gone my whole life without hearing that term and lived just fine.
@davewade30
@davewade30 5 ай бұрын
So basically Ring told him he could delete videos and no one would ever know. Wonderful!
@diverightin9243
@diverightin9243 5 ай бұрын
Yep, I caught that too!
@joshn1678
@joshn1678 5 ай бұрын
Lol, Exactly I was like, thanks Ring, you just saved this man from going to jail and put her in jail. Nah, I don't even believe him, I want to hear from Ring.
@diverightin9243
@diverightin9243 4 ай бұрын
I took it as HE deleted it and we will never know. He had the access. Karen did not have access to the ring camera.
@OMGKitteh88
@OMGKitteh88 5 ай бұрын
Did you notice how Proctor tried to pull off McCabes trick and fish for sympathy by telling a story of harassment? xD This time the judge cut this off quickly.
@jenniferchoo9413
@jenniferchoo9413 5 ай бұрын
Thank god we got official weather reports...I was starting to wonder what the weather was like.
@deannetronsdal409
@deannetronsdal409 5 ай бұрын
But was it snowing? 🤣
@Npvisqueen
@Npvisqueen 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if it was snowing
@polivepea
@polivepea 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@E-magineMySurprise
@E-magineMySurprise 5 ай бұрын
The weather report will surely show that the snow was actually inverted. Snow was leaving the ground and returning to the sky. It also took some tail light pieces with it. When that snow fell again, bringing pieces of tail light every once in a while, we dutifully collected it as it came back to the crime scene.
@Quiteinfamous
@Quiteinfamous 5 ай бұрын
@@E-magineMySurpriseflawless deduction 😂
@321_Relax
@321_Relax 5 ай бұрын
I haven’t been a huge fan of Jackson’s style and much prefer Yanetti, but he did a masterful job on his cross of Proctor - especially the end. He had me on the verge of tears feeling horrible for Karen. Very powerful. Great job 💙
@GonzoMom
@GonzoMom 4 ай бұрын
Same! I cried for her. Karen has handled all of this with much more grace and poise than I ever could.
@laimanarbute4188
@laimanarbute4188 5 ай бұрын
And during Murdaugh trial everyone was saying SLED did very bad investigation. No no, they did almost excelent investigation - no rehomed home, phones etc.
@bathingcatsonacloudyday
@bathingcatsonacloudyday 5 ай бұрын
Canton Police and Massachussets PD made SLED look like the best investigative team ever.
@Hollister74
@Hollister74 5 ай бұрын
Right, SLED is looking amazing right now. SLED needs to send Proctor a gift basket, maybe with some balloons, solo cups, and OTC pain relief for the reaming he just got from Jackson, and maybe Lally is going to give him!
@theenchantedgardendream8787
@theenchantedgardendream8787 5 ай бұрын
Shame on you was the chefs kiss on cross!! He said what we all were thinking.
@nancycoelho4426
@nancycoelho4426 5 ай бұрын
I laughed, screamed, went into a rage - all from today's court day
@adamjarvis7353
@adamjarvis7353 5 ай бұрын
the commonwealth should dismiss this case tomorrow
@Sabrinasolomon_xo
@Sabrinasolomon_xo 4 ай бұрын
Yes. They’ve wasted everyone’s time and states resources. Not to mention what they put Karen thru and no justice for John
@KayD
@KayD 4 ай бұрын
They should have binned it months ago
@shmo_de
@shmo_de 5 ай бұрын
Today was wiiiilld 🤯. Thanks for riding with us, Emily & team!
@mariannesouza8326
@mariannesouza8326 5 ай бұрын
Very generous. 👍🏼
@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend
@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend 5 ай бұрын
If I hear "juvinile and unprofessional" one more time. Try tasteless and dispicable. The way he kept repeating those two terms was so rehearsed... and after all that rehearsing he couldn't have come up with better words for it? He clearly thinks he did absolutely nothing wrong. He shouldn't even be allowed to try and sell that.
@timroberts6695
@timroberts6695 5 ай бұрын
Just what you are looking for when you hire state cops, people who are juveniles and unprofessional 🤦🏻‍♂️
@Julia-uh4li
@Julia-uh4li 4 ай бұрын
"He clearly thinks he did absolutely nothing wrong!" Yes, I whole heartedly agree, and I can actually picture him walking into work after these days of testimony, being clapped on the back by all his buddies, and them telling him he did a great job. Then laughing about all the texts. I have no doubt everyone that's associated with him, including his family are all quite similar minded. God, its truly dire. Imho!
@smileymama04
@smileymama04 5 ай бұрын
I HAD to come back to rewatch. Today was THAT good . 😂 Thank you Emily ❤
@beachgal2
@beachgal2 5 ай бұрын
I enjoy “rewatching with Emily” for the snark and legal Aspect!!!
@smileymama04
@smileymama04 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@beachgal2I do too . Listening while at work I sometimes miss things 😂 The snark is EVERYTHING.. Alan’s swear word enunciation was JUST …. 😂🤣😂
@soartsyfartsy7874
@soartsyfartsy7874 4 ай бұрын
AJ shocks me with the speed of his wittiness. He lets his disdain show but keeps it classy. Very few people can inspire others to cheer for them when they’re being snarky - but I cheer for him!! He has an amazing way of using his voice inflection to hammer points in without seeming “angry”.
@chicagodoll
@chicagodoll 5 ай бұрын
Alright... replay crew... lets go!
@chicagodoll
@chicagodoll 5 ай бұрын
"So 16 hours in you knew that this wouldnt implicate in any way shape form or fashion, another cop correct?" ... "yes" Because that doesnt SCREAM "ive made my mind up and will make sure the evidence fits rather than actually following the evidence.
@chicagodoll
@chicagodoll 5 ай бұрын
16 hrs in, before going to the scene and interviewing only 3 people, "you had this case wrapped up, didnt you?" "Yes." MY DUDE.
@chicagodoll
@chicagodoll 5 ай бұрын
So he didnt even entertain the idea that others could be lying.. that he could be wrong.... this is the epitome of NOT ***following*** the evidence!
@chicagodoll
@chicagodoll 5 ай бұрын
Good grief, im only 21 mins in on replay!!
@chicagodoll
@chicagodoll 5 ай бұрын
"Have you ever seen a person hit by a car with no bruises" Super massive long pause. He did NOT want to answer that question, you could see it in his face.
@NicholasMcKinney
@NicholasMcKinney 5 ай бұрын
WTF, we have the weather report but no cause of death!!!! We live here now.
@jimbarry145
@jimbarry145 5 ай бұрын
I would’ve gave Alan a standing ovation
@astrialindah2773
@astrialindah2773 5 ай бұрын
He would have gave him a standing ovation?😃
@CrazyAsian_303
@CrazyAsian_303 5 ай бұрын
I would be fired as a lawyer. I agree with AJ "Shame on you" I would've said "F-- you. Your're the Cu Next Tues. How dare you... Shame on you. You're not a man... You're worse than scum" I'm an emotional person and I have a bad sass mouth and this judge would hate me and I would not give two fucks. One of your officers died and you don't give two fucks and you and the Alberts and McCabes are in a tight circle and that evidence definitely shows for me and they got very evasive or defensive on a lot of things. FIRE them. they don't deserve their position
@Gringa_L
@Gringa_L 5 ай бұрын
Emily, I hope you don't run yourself ragged keeping up with streams. Your audience will be here no matter when and how often you stream.
@Coreythegreyhound
@Coreythegreyhound 5 ай бұрын
Yannettis face during cross is correct. He’s so angry. Me too babe, me too
@creativitybytrisha6819
@creativitybytrisha6819 5 ай бұрын
I've been watching this case on the replay crew. And I am completely flabbergasted! Every time I think these officers can't get any worse they do!
@lindahadley2798
@lindahadley2798 5 ай бұрын
I have been a lawyer for almost 40 years and this trial and how it’s been presented by the DA seems less like real life and more like a novel
@E-magineMySurprise
@E-magineMySurprise 5 ай бұрын
If this were a novel, I would have returned it for a refund! There are too many plot holes!
@susanharrington8715
@susanharrington8715 5 ай бұрын
Having just watched the Chad Daybell trial and the Alex Murdaugh trial before that… this judge is just so all about herself… has to have everybody waiting for her entrance, refuses to allow grounds for objections to be stated and for her rulings on same, everything’s a sidebar with her… she seems like she made a massive error at the outset, not granting a continuance which was requested by both sides… was totally unprepared for the level of publicity this trial would garner and wants to keep as much of her reasoning and rulings on the down low cause she’s really not sure of what she’s doing… especially given the, oughta be illegal, level of incompetence of law enforcement, the very real possibility of some kind of cover up that’s come to light and of course her own questionable conduct, her obvious bias against the defendant and her attorneys… she actually seems intimidated by them which would explain a lot…so they’re gonna bear the brunt of her errors and insecurities, her massive irritation with the keystone cops which she seems loathe to acknowledge instead taking out her super sigh hurry it along on the defense… sad to watch her behavior regardless of how impatient or intimidated she is… it’s disrespectful to the victim, his family, the defendant, her attorneys… to the judicial process and ultimately to the truth of whatever happened to that young police officer.
@ronniweatherford4232
@ronniweatherford4232 5 ай бұрын
💯
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
I get the impression that she is mad that the defense pointed the whole world toward the incompetence and corruption in the Canton police department.
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
Or at least at the attention it brought.
@Alabanzas159
@Alabanzas159 4 ай бұрын
He is funny he says we collected evidence. What evidence? Erasing videos
@Fifi_Is_My_Name-O
@Fifi_Is_My_Name-O 5 ай бұрын
Alan Jackson didn't need to bring a lunch today... he had Trooper Proctor for lunch!
@caroline-brisbane8577
@caroline-brisbane8577 4 ай бұрын
He was full from the grilling in the am before lunch.
@rebeccaglasgow1324
@rebeccaglasgow1324 5 ай бұрын
I have never been so disgusted with the treatment of Ms. Reed, as Proctor spoke of her. He has a wife, maybe a daughter, wonder how he would feel if someone treated them that way
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
The worst part for me is how soon into the "investigation" he decided to hate her. The rest is awful and wrong, but the immediate jump to conclusions based primarily (imo) on Jen's version of things is what discredits the investigation.
@Julia-uh4li
@Julia-uh4li 4 ай бұрын
I'd imagine he's married to a mean girl as well, so she probably isn't offended by what he's said. The kid or kids, as well. To answer your question though, he'd probably do things that are quite illegal if he found out someone spoke about his daughter the same way he did about Karen. I would hate to live in the same town as that group. They're vile.
@KayD
@KayD 4 ай бұрын
​@@Julia-uh4liHis sister seems to be the mean girl. The 'she knew what she signed up for' comment after procter said his wife was alone with the children for so long.
@PartanBree
@PartanBree 4 ай бұрын
That massive pause after Proctor was asked if he investigated anyone who might have had motive/means/opportunity spoke VOLUMES
@judithmcgill3913
@judithmcgill3913 5 ай бұрын
It's amazing how shut his open mind was
@lukerobeson9957
@lukerobeson9957 5 ай бұрын
Imagine if the Albert and Higgins didn’t re home their phones… I bet they would look just like Procters
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
It all comes back to jen fing mccabe. Her story was all proctor needed for evidence.
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
Nevermind that John looked beat up, that didn't fit jen's narrative & Karen couldn't have beat him up so it was disregarded. Jen said John hadn't come in the house, so he didn't come into the house. But he doesn't think he was conflicted and wants us to believe this was a fair and neutral investigation.
@JaimeUsey
@JaimeUsey 5 ай бұрын
No... I'd say force Proctor to be in a room with Clhoe posing as a stranger for about 5-10 minutes.....
@melissacoulter708
@melissacoulter708 5 ай бұрын
But the “taillight” pieces would have been visible to ANYONE in the house that night!! Bright red against the white snow yet no one saw any of the million pieces that were collected!?
@saradf4890
@saradf4890 5 ай бұрын
And several people drove by that area where JO was supposedly on the lawn and no one saw him! How do you completely lose one's peripheral vision?
@Lynn-vy9xr
@Lynn-vy9xr 5 ай бұрын
I just can’t wrap my head around the fact that we have more evidence that it was snowing then we have of this crime 🤦‍♀️
@JRay.R
@JRay.R 4 ай бұрын
Wait…when did they say it was snowing…? ❄️ 🤔 😂
@Lynn-vy9xr
@Lynn-vy9xr 4 ай бұрын
@@JRay.R 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@clareofford6306
@clareofford6306 5 ай бұрын
Proctor is about to say that he doesn't consider being married to his wife a relationship 😂
@JulieeeB
@JulieeeB 5 ай бұрын
What if anything is a relationship? 😂
@trisHa6666
@trisHa6666 5 ай бұрын
Although I feel for the OKeefes, the sight of his mother laughing when Jackson is reciting the vile comments made by proctor, is very disturbing.
@astrialindah2773
@astrialindah2773 5 ай бұрын
I've seen a lot of comments like yours, I didn't see her do it but to think that she did is really disgusting! I wonder how she gets along with Paul's wife?
@courtneyjohnson8407
@courtneyjohnson8407 5 ай бұрын
I agree. She lost a lot of empathy. She has continued to do this and should be warned she can get kicked out of the court room.
@mombear5116
@mombear5116 5 ай бұрын
Proctor claimed he did not interview Colin until 2023 because Colin left the house before John arrived. So why did he interview Colin's parents, Julie and Chris Albert, 12 days after John died - when they were not at the house AT ALL that night?
@myquest666420
@myquest666420 4 ай бұрын
I think they were at the bar when Karen and John were there
@mombear5116
@mombear5116 4 ай бұрын
@@myquest666420 I thought about that. . . But then why didn't he interview Caitlin Albert (also at the bar AND at the house) until July 2023? I think it is worth mentioning in closing argument to point out Proctor's "investigation" appearing to be more of a "getting stories straight" cover-up than a "fact finding" process.
@myquest666420
@myquest666420 4 ай бұрын
@@mombear5116oh yeah, you’re absolutely right. That’s why I believe he was there talking to them. But I’d just imagine that would’ve been his answer if he was asked.
@JRay.R
@JRay.R 4 ай бұрын
Excellent catch!
@LauraJReicher
@LauraJReicher 5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the gifted membership !!! Unemployed and ill at the moment. I have celiacs, IBS, a dizziness issue, and ADHD and I walk proudly with Karen! FKR👏👍
@kathybechtol5889
@kathybechtol5889 5 ай бұрын
May we rehome Proctor?
@MrsCCake
@MrsCCake 5 ай бұрын
😂😂 😂
@bathingcatsonacloudyday
@bathingcatsonacloudyday 5 ай бұрын
But far away from Chloe, please.
@JRay.R
@JRay.R 4 ай бұрын
Consider him rehomed!
@KatieFlynnBrandt
@KatieFlynnBrandt 2 күн бұрын
I bet he wishes he rehomed a lot of things before today…
@obsessedwiththetruth7016
@obsessedwiththetruth7016 5 ай бұрын
Up to the end of the proctor testimony- the audacity of the see you next Tuesday to thank the jurors! Intimidation much
@susanharrington8715
@susanharrington8715 5 ай бұрын
exactly!
@BlessedInTX248
@BlessedInTX248 5 ай бұрын
This makes no sense to me?🤔
@beachgal2
@beachgal2 5 ай бұрын
Just showed his true colors to the Jurors. Very scary & alarming.
@MLA56
@MLA56 5 ай бұрын
Lame attempt at trying to look like a decent person.
@obsessedwiththetruth7016
@obsessedwiththetruth7016 5 ай бұрын
@@MLA56 yep and the “thank you jury for delivering justice, you’ve got this, find her guilty, we are on the same side, both fighting for justice” vomit vomit vomit vomit vomit
@AshleighGOz
@AshleighGOz 5 ай бұрын
Karen’s stare down of Proctor as he walked out at the lunch break. ICONIC
@kdid271
@kdid271 5 ай бұрын
I would love for the defense to ask for a dismissal of all charges immediately based upon the fact the Proctor never went into the house and never properly interviewed the Alberts and everyone in the home that night. Really horrible investigation. I can only imagine how many innocent people go to jail because of assholes like this!
@karmennash7479
@karmennash7479 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. Infuriating.
@bdw7254
@bdw7254 5 ай бұрын
He didn’t entertain any other possibilities. Even when Karen said that he was beat up. That’s should have been their cue to look into that as well as their guilt because they knew they’d need to go to trial
@mininjas
@mininjas 5 ай бұрын
I think they can petition for dismissal after the prosecution rests
@jjgirl3715
@jjgirl3715 5 ай бұрын
They always ask after the prosecutions case. I doubt it would be granted though. If they found probable cause to take it to trail and that was accepted by the court it is very rarely overturned.
@DegrassiInstantStar
@DegrassiInstantStar 5 ай бұрын
Watched thislive at work, and am APPALLED at how much worse Proctor's cross was in comparison to what we were made to believe. And thank you, Emily, for being there for us Law Nerds, and it's also helping me spread the word of this case and your streams to those in my life!!! And the look on Karen's face when Proctor discussed him wishing she'd un-alive herself was heartbreaking, and then seeing Mrs. O'Keefe mock Yanetti really pisses me off, too.
@amandameekhael
@amandameekhael 5 ай бұрын
John’s mom keeps laughing every time Jackson mentioned those texts. She won’t be laughing when she hears NOT GUILTY.
@carlamabry6944
@carlamabry6944 5 ай бұрын
I saw that😡 they deserve no justice
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
​@@carlamabry6944 They do deserve justice. And I can't hold it against the family for believing what they have been told about this case. I've heard that jen cozied up to John's mom after the fact, so that conniving manipulator has been in her ear this whole time. And her son was a cop. She's going to want to believe in the cops. Believe that they'd look out for her son and honor him after he's gone. That much cognitive dissonance is hard to get past. Especially at her age and with all the grief she's lived through. She might never be able to see the truth. Or maybe eventually she will. I have more hope for his brother though. I could be wrong but I feel like maybe he's starting to have a few doubts.
@Woeiswhoa
@Woeiswhoa 5 ай бұрын
I have been scouring the comments for a comment about his mom. Did you see what she did at 5:01:06? I know I should feel bad for her, but all I could think was, “Wtf is wrong with you?”
@MShaiqable
@MShaiqable 5 ай бұрын
@@Woeiswhoa It looked like she was doing that at Yannetti as he was walking up to the court right after Proctor accused Yannetti of being at his wife's school yesterday or something
@MShaiqable
@MShaiqable 5 ай бұрын
Were they laughing yesterday because I went back through to try to find where they laughed and I didn't see it?
@jenabeal3219
@jenabeal3219 5 ай бұрын
Had to be replay crew for the second part of the day and just got to weather reports. 😂 Way to go Lally! Between excessive testimony, multiple pictures and videos where I could see it with my own eyes and now the official weather reports, you have convinced me beyond a reasonable doubt that it was snowing!! ❄️
@deang8017
@deang8017 5 ай бұрын
"If you ordered Kevin Albert not to look at the recording and your orders are always followed then why was it necessary to conduct the interview in the conference room?". DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED!!!!!!!!!
@trisHa6666
@trisHa6666 5 ай бұрын
You can’t handle the truth !
@GenZedsMother
@GenZedsMother 5 ай бұрын
YOU’RE GODDAMNED RIGHT I DID! - Proctor Hahahaha
@ambergerber5162
@ambergerber5162 Ай бұрын
​@@GenZedsMotherI was actually waiting for a jack Nicholson moment like that. 😂😂😂 considering this is like a movie about police corruption. At this point there is so much crap that even if she did do it, which I doubt, it doesn't matter because you can't wade through the crap enough to get to what really happened.
@heatheryates4105
@heatheryates4105 4 ай бұрын
Loved hearing you on with Karson & Kennedy my favorite morning show!!!!😊
@sarahhakesmusic
@sarahhakesmusic 5 ай бұрын
I’m pissed today. How dare the state drag John O’Keefe’s family through this mess.
@Christine__D
@Christine__D 5 ай бұрын
Mr. O'Keefe looked devastated and heartbroken today. There will never be justice for his son.
@carlamabry6944
@carlamabry6944 5 ай бұрын
They are sitting there laughing! I’m disgusted by their actions!
@courtneyjohnson8407
@courtneyjohnson8407 5 ай бұрын
​@carlamabry6944 exactly his mother has lost all my empathy with her daily actions and she technically should be warned or removed from the court room.
@annabordelon6663
@annabordelon6663 5 ай бұрын
His mother doesn't care about justice
@sarahhakesmusic
@sarahhakesmusic 4 ай бұрын
@@carlamabry6944 if she was laughing because she took pleasure on Proctor take cheap shots at Karen that’s pretty messed up, but she still gets some grace in my book. Even if Karen Read is innocent (which I believe that she is) it sounds like she and John O’Keefe may have had a somewhat toxic relationship and there have been some less than flattering things that have come out about Miss Read in regards to the way she treated John and the things she’s said about the niece and nephew. Mrs O’Keefe has lost her son, and the woman he was with before he died was possibly disingenuous and possibly disrespected him in the days leading up to his death. That alone would put a bad taste in her mouth for Karen. And seeing as we’re in the thick of this trial, I imagine she hasn’t had a chance to fully process her grief for the loss of her son. I’m sure there’s a lot of anger. Not to mention cop worship is real in this country, I imagine especially amongst folks whose fallen son was a cop and by all accounts a hero. I think it’s going to be extra hard for the O’Keefes to be reasoned out of trusting police with that much emotion tied to it all. I say all of this not knowing much of anything about the O’Keefe family. I just think that we do things in the throws of grief that we may not be proud of and I don’t want to be quick to cast judgment on a woman who is sitting through a mess of an eight week murder trial for her sons death
@Badwolf143
@Badwolf143 5 ай бұрын
The timing of EBD's child and the pest control people was hilarious 😂
@agent_ninety9
@agent_ninety9 5 ай бұрын
Emily, not that we don't thoroughly enjoy your witty commentary, but I have to say the little inserts of Griffin were a breath of fresh air and added some happiness & sanity to the effery that we have been enduring together the last 8 weeks. We got the "bruh" comment too! Sums it up!
@Lilli_Jewel
@Lilli_Jewel 5 ай бұрын
Lally's strategy has been & IS to "run down the clock." No one will be able to convince me otherwise. Especially since the Defense asked the jury to "wait to hear their side" in their opening. Lally is hoping the judge is so angry about the schedule that she's short & rushes the Defense. That's the only thing that makes sense to why he continues to go over irrelevant & cumulative BS.
@annamelvina216
@annamelvina216 5 ай бұрын
"Shame on you" - Alan Jackson
@LexieJay00
@LexieJay00 5 ай бұрын
Mic drop 🎤 Epic moment! 👏🏾
@simsadie14
@simsadie14 5 ай бұрын
*June 12, 2024 I bet the jurors found it as cathartic as we did
@user-xy7ui3wo6e
@user-xy7ui3wo6e 5 ай бұрын
What time did he say that? I hope I did not miss it! Awesome lawyer
@annamelvina216
@annamelvina216 5 ай бұрын
@@user-xy7ui3wo6e At the end of his cross! Trust me you won't miss it!
@simsadie14
@simsadie14 5 ай бұрын
@@user-xy7ui3wo6ego to 4:57:00 but the preceding 3-4 minutes are good too
@NerdyDogMom1
@NerdyDogMom1 5 ай бұрын
I don’t know or have a relationship with this chick Stacey. We did work together on a podcast, we hangout laughing and joking together, occasionally, drink together and we text and call and go out socially, bump fists at the gym, ect….. Yep don’t know her or have a relationship. Stacey who?
@JackiSueM
@JackiSueM 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@whocaresreallly5886
@whocaresreallly5886 4 ай бұрын
We have 3 kids and have been married 17 years but i wouldn't say i know her
@buntybaggins536
@buntybaggins536 5 ай бұрын
Jackson lost patience with Bev at 5.51 with the 'it was a good one the first time' 😂
@JackiSueM
@JackiSueM 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 they are both sick of her lol
@hazelangus
@hazelangus 4 ай бұрын
Alan Jackson - yelling, "SHE'S FUCKED" is great. He's making the tone of the texts so nasty, spiteful, downright gleeful, with a delightfully nasal, whiny mean girl tone to some of it. It's perfect. It's even more perfect when he pulls all of that back in and asks a question in his normal voice. If you've just been humiliated with your own words spat at you, and seconds later you've got the lawyer back, a disappointed dad quietly asking you if this was really necessary and did you truly mean that... I would have CRAWLED from that courtroom.
@laurasalmon706
@laurasalmon706 5 ай бұрын
UK replay crew 💜 thank you for covering this EDB . I still don't really understand how we got to this point. I really want to see the ' overwhelming' amounts of evidence that they have. Trouper P is a walking poster for how not to cop 🤦🏻‍♀️ I feel so sorry the JO s family, such a disrespectful and unprofessional investigation 😔
@LovetheLed
@LovetheLed 5 ай бұрын
💜 my International LawNerds💜💜
@gigisielaff
@gigisielaff 5 ай бұрын
Fact finders? Is that what Proctor calls this shat show investigation? Honestly, the shadiness of Proctor alongside his occasional willingness to own his egregious behavior whilst simultaneously defending the “integrity” of case is giving me flashbacks to Alex Murdaugh’s testimony.
@warriorb_yotch
@warriorb_yotch 5 ай бұрын
You are absolutely incredible at breaking everything down and picking out the important points in testimony! Love ya girl 💜❤️💜❤️💜❤️💜❤️👍🏼
@JWildberry
@JWildberry 5 ай бұрын
I thought it was fitting for pest control to show up during Proctor's cross.
@MrsCCake
@MrsCCake 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant! 😂😂😂😂😂
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@karolpage4880
@karolpage4880 5 ай бұрын
😅😅😅
@mellylo
@mellylo 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@bathingcatsonacloudyday
@bathingcatsonacloudyday 5 ай бұрын
I thought someone from the public or even the jury was taking things in their own hands 😂
@miclynn78
@miclynn78 5 ай бұрын
Had anyone checked to see if it was really snowing though....it could've been a beautiful, sunny day! Arrrrrrgggghhh!!! Love to the replay crew!
@carliesmith3252
@carliesmith3252 5 ай бұрын
At this stage I believe it if someone tells me they’re all lying and it was sunny
@Amy_Stanmore
@Amy_Stanmore 5 ай бұрын
Someone had a news bulletin picture LOL it would be funny if they called a meteorologist who advises the local news station 😂😅
@candywhite511
@candywhite511 5 ай бұрын
Czar​@@carliesmith3252
@carliesmith3252
@carliesmith3252 4 ай бұрын
I haven’t been emotional listening to this but I actually just burst into tears when Jackson said shame on you. I am so glad Karen can afford this defence, I don’t know the truth but I do know this so called upholder of the law is a disgrace.
@carliesmith3252
@carliesmith3252 4 ай бұрын
I do wish they’d have leaned in more in the gaps in investigation on cross. Like driving home the point that he’d decided this within 16 hours when all he had was Albert McCabe testimony and what?
@JenBee1
@JenBee1 4 ай бұрын
Yes!! Jackson has a 96% win rate & he lives in California. I am really curious how much he charges for this entire case. Freedom is priceless. It's sad that more people than not wouldn't be able to afford such a prestigious attorney. He's probably one of the best defense attorneys I've seen in action. You can feel his level of mad for his client, & all the nasty comments that were made about her. I truly beleive it's 100% genuine. ❤
@Julia-uh4li
@Julia-uh4li 4 ай бұрын
​@@JenBee1 I caught earlier in the live chat that she's being charged $2,000,000.00 Now I'm not 100% sure that's correct, but, it was mentioned.
@JenBee1
@JenBee1 4 ай бұрын
@Julia-uh4li Wowzers! I wonder if you can make payments on that? Haha. 😄 Didn't Karen Reed have a go fund me account to help pay her legal fees? Do you know if she's out on bond by chance? I'm probably the only person who doesn't know much about this case. I'm learning about everything & forming an opinion right along with the jurors. There was so much drama surrounding this case in the beginning. I run from the drama & circus 🎪 like I'm running from a snake! 🏃🏼‍♀️💨 Haha 😄 Edit: Thanks for responding to my comment! It's very much appreciated! 🩷
@adamjarvis7353
@adamjarvis7353 5 ай бұрын
he never thought the texts would make it here.
@jeanwinders9556
@jeanwinders9556 5 ай бұрын
Thank you to the Feds and the Internal Affairs cops
@Blackened30
@Blackened30 4 ай бұрын
Its his own fault for using a personal phone for work purposes. Its a very stupid thing to do, and a guaranteed way that all of your personal life is going to be raked over the coals in detail.
@candelalluvia1711
@candelalluvia1711 4 ай бұрын
I am living for EDB commentary. Thank you for bringing light along with sincere compassion for this entire case. It seems like you are one of Officer O’Keefes biggest advocates.
@chicago1779
@chicago1779 5 ай бұрын
I was gifted a membership!!! Thank you who ever you are I really appreciate it!!!!!!
@LovetheLed
@LovetheLed 5 ай бұрын
Lucky Duck 💜💜💜
@Stephanie-yp9vl
@Stephanie-yp9vl 5 ай бұрын
Wicked Pissa my friend
@LovetheLed
@LovetheLed 5 ай бұрын
@@Stephanie-yp9vl Wicked Tuna is one of my favorite shows 💜
@Stephanie-yp9vl
@Stephanie-yp9vl 5 ай бұрын
@@LovetheLed love that show
@ruxandramariatonea6498
@ruxandramariatonea6498 5 ай бұрын
Me too! 🥳
@shelby477
@shelby477 5 ай бұрын
I'm so relieved all the witnesses and pictures in evidence weren't lying about the weather. That certainly clears up this entire case for me! 😂
@maritzapierreaponte8538
@maritzapierreaponte8538 5 ай бұрын
More than anytime before, I think everybody is afraid of the Albert family ESPECIALLY Big Brian like there's some kind of Mafia.
@MimiDidi121
@MimiDidi121 5 ай бұрын
There was a tweet from a reporter that was in the courtroom said that John’s mother was laughing and elbowing her son, or whomever was sitting next to her when they would call her charisma, uniqueness, nerve and talent. She thought it was funny when they talked about her shitting herself. It makes me really sad that they have turned that hard on Karen. Part of me, understands it if they really believe she murdered their son, but what scares me is, his mom and dad have been together for years. It seems his dad doesn’t hate Karen. I was told by someone who was in the court that he sat with Karen’s family one day, and hasn’t been back to court since. I have no way of knowing, but it scares me that this may be causing friction in a relationship. That would make this doubly sad.
@bathingcatsonacloudyday
@bathingcatsonacloudyday 5 ай бұрын
I would like to think that maybe it was a moment to relieve stress for Mrs O'Keefe. I don't think at this point the family can know for sure that Karen killed John. Paul, his brother, has changed his disposition these last couples weeks.
@carlamabry6944
@carlamabry6944 5 ай бұрын
I saw it and I’m disappointed disgusted by their actions! All 5 of the front row was laughing!
@carlamabry6944
@carlamabry6944 5 ай бұрын
All of them were laughing especially when dumb proctor was talking about Yannetti
@esindirik4447
@esindirik4447 4 ай бұрын
timestamp? everyone says she laughed no one gives a timestamp.
@KayD
@KayD 4 ай бұрын
She won't be laughing when the verdict comes in, nor when proctor is stacking shelves at the grocery store 😏😒 karma always comes around
@MoonDragon1
@MoonDragon1 5 ай бұрын
The most chilling is John was a friend of the people that lived at the house. They knew and not one person wanted to come out of the house?
@karolpage4880
@karolpage4880 5 ай бұрын
Replay crew from NH. I am not surprised that 1 juror is down. I am almost so so done with this case but I've been here since the beginning so I have to see it through now. I can't imagine how the real jurors are feeling about all of this nonsense! Thank you EDB
@mommahype
@mommahype 5 ай бұрын
Never had to watch replay….TIME STAMPS ARE BAE!!!💜💜💜
@mariannesouza8326
@mariannesouza8326 5 ай бұрын
Scorched earth cross-examination! 👏🏼👏🏼 I can’t believe Proctor thanked the jury, as he stepped down. Does he think that helps fix his image, somewhat, with them?’ 😂
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