Mac Studio M2 Ultra and Cubase and Kontakt! Music production performance test!

Let's take a look at Apple's Mac Studio M2 Ultra performance with Cubase and Native Instrument's Kontakt! How many instances of Kontakt can the M2 handle?
#cubase #macstudio #kontakt #m2 #apple #nativeinstruments

[@chrisjacob9889]

Thank you so much for making real world test with real instruments and that to be KONTAKT !! The power is amazing, Thank you

[@SoundFixationTV]

Thank you su much @chrisjacob9889! More tests coming up!

[@charley2070]

This is exacly what i was looking for. Thank You!

[@SoundFixationTV]

Glad this helped!

[@2clau]

I think this test is a bit misleading: Kontakt is mostly "load sample from drive storage and store into RAM" which clearly is no problem at all with the SSD drives and 192GB of RAM that you have. Granted that some of the orchestral instrument presets use a bit of reverb in Kontakt, it is minimal. What would be a very good stress test is to load a CPU intensive VST instrument (not a sample player) and a convolution reverb for example on each of the tracks. Keep duplicating that until it cracks. That would truly test the power of the system particularly the M2 chip.

[@matthewhartleymusic]

Great video …would love to see this test with some effects plugins and audio tracks.

[@levelonemusic]

@SoundFixationTV Thanks so much for doing these tests! One question on how you are running the projects. Could provide info on what drives were used for Running the tests? Im assuming SSDS with that kind of track count. Would be great to know what the hard drive specs the Cubase session was on in addition to what drive the Virtual Instrument libraries are stored / run from. Thanks again!

[@kevinrieplmusic]

Love this. thanks for this test. one question...what was your save time each time you saved? (if you did)

[@connectdots]

amazing!

[@surreal_youtube]

Thank you so much, this is what i was searching for ever since the m2 ultra was announced…the snappy reports really made me smile, for it’s always an important factor that’s often passed over when considering daw performance tests 👍 …and now i’ve got 1001 questions, hahaha 😂 but my gratitude towards your generosity, bringing this to the world at large, as well as my constantly curious character overrides my spontaneous inner child, making me smile again, remembering my grandma’s words of wisdom : “ be gracious, humble & grateful first, then this life will open doors of knowledge to you “ kind sir…thanks again 💪😃👍

[@SoundFixationTV]

Hey @surrealo.s9662! Thank you so much for the kind words and I'm glad you found the video useful! Also... its really great to hear someone quote the wisdom of their grandparents! Feel free to ask any questions you have, and I'll do my best to answer if I can!

[@surreal_youtube]

@@SoundFixationTVthanks for the offer to ask questions….your courage is obvious from the adventures in track addition in this video, but you’ve opened a pandora box when it comes to myself 😂… ok, here goes…with 100% no problem if the following is not possible 💪😃👍 1. do you ever use Acustica-Audio plugins ? 2. if not duplicating tracks, but using unique VI’s does it behave the same ? 3. do you use outboard hardware ? 4. aaaaargh too many ideas for list 😂 5. do you like pizza ; )….? #5 is sincerly for whisking to treat you to lunch, for the original video & a little bit of trying to be graceful towards the above list 👍 all the best & have a great day.

[@SoundFixationTV]

@@surreal_youtube Answers incoming! 1. I've been aware and intrigued with Acustica-Audio for a long time, but have not used them. What do you recommend? 2. So, I think your question would be more of a "real world" scenario where we combine instances of several different VI's. How the system would behave would depend on the particular VI's. Heavy hitting Synth VI's would bring the system to its knees way sooner. For example, even within Kontakt, we would not be able to duplicate my test with 1000 tracks of NI Pharlight playing at the same time! What VIs did you have in mind? 3. Yes and no! I have admittedly way too many outboard hardware units.. (Caught the bug years and years ago and began hoarding... I need to thin the herd!) So Yes I use them,....but not often anymore in a mixing context. Always on the way in though! 4. Keep em coming! 5. Love pizza! But no need to entice my taste buds to get me to talk about recording/studio/music topics! I can't help myself! Thanks so much for engaging with me and my videos! I appreciate it and it makes the work I put into making them worth while! P.S. What do you do? Are you a recording engineer/mixer/musician/composer?

[@surreal_youtube]

@@SoundFixationTVdude….you rock 💪😃👍 i gotta go to bed, it’s 3:41 am here, but just a short message of big thanks again & we shall continue the conversation 👌 1. acustica : oh my, where to start ?!? but if you’re curious, el rey2 / gold5 / olive…are amazing 5. 🍕 still incoming… we shall figure it out brother 😅 yes i’m a studio fool just like you , in more ways than would be healthy to admit 😂 have good one 👍

[@SoundFixationTV]

@@surreal_youtube Alright Im sold. Will be demo-ing El Rey and the others for sure. I tried Audio Acustica probably 10 years ago, and they just destroyed my computer's cpu at the time, and so I just brushed them off. But I've talked to enough friends who swear by their sound.... It's time. 😁 Looking forward to that pizza! Thanks man! 👍

[@Ananda7uk]

this is awsome..

[@Zarag0d]

I wanna see a project with 200 kontakt plugins and 25 audio tracks (maybe 2-4 more for a grand piano) all with groups of things going through properly alotted mixing buses or group channels with all group buses having specialized mixing and then master plugins on a final group channel or stereo out of a LIVE performance and a slew of 4k cameras with a couple 8k cameras STREAMING LIVE. DO YOU THINK IT IS POSSIBLE?!?!? I'm talking high production giant orchestral prog metal band with a choir AND THE WORKS. Subbed by the way tho, awesome video!

[@mhb450]

Suggestions. A rock/pop band recording. Acoustic drums with samples supporting them using Superior Drummer, or other drum library. Stacked vocals, walls of DI guitars using amp sims, pads/keys using soft synths. . Lots of mix automation. Lots of CPU hog plugins like Izotope, Sonible etc.

[@jazzanarchy]

Thank you for these videos, I find them very useful and fascinating. Also, I will never stop cursing your name for the blaring metal intro from your soothing voice. Please have mercy on us.

[@SoundFixationTV]

Ahhh yes... the metal... I kind of agree with you here! lol. Although, to be honest, Im sick of hearing the test "composition" I wrote for this test. (Had I known I would end up listening to it hundreds of times, I would have at least tried to write something more interesting!). Thanks @jazzanarchy!

[@musicmanray1]

Apple owes you some commission sir! This is the data I was searching for.. Thank you!!!

[@SoundFixationTV]

Hey @musicmanray1! Glad the video helped! Let me know if you have any questions!

[@MobiusMinded]

Cool! I have this same model arriving in less than a week. Although my configuration is a little less RAM (128GB) and a little more Hard Drive (2TB.)

[@svenisaksson3970]

It would have been very interesting to see the memory pressure, with so many instances of Kontakt running as well.

[@SoundFixationTV]

Hey @svenisaksson3970, I reached about 120gb of ram used by the end of the video. However, keep in mind that I had the Memory pre-load buffer on Kontakt set at 60kb. Reducing that to the minimum of 6kb, would DRASTICALLY reduce RAM usage. Hope this helps! Reply

[@jaketanner109]

do some of those libraries share RAM like BBCSO does? So one instance of vin1 on BBCSO...you can duplicate it 100 times and it still only takes the same amount of RAM if I remember correctly. Looking to get this same configuration soon, thanks

[@EvansAudio]

Great

[@soulscape5083]

Thanks for the test. If you first made those tracks into a folder, it could have been easier for you.

[@scottharris7222]

Fantastic video. What were your ASIO guard settings?

[@SoundFixationTV]

ASIO Guard Settings: Activate Multi Processing is checked. Activate ASIO-Guard is checked. ASIO-GUARD Level is set to "High". Thanks for the comment!

[@jonathanparham]

Good Real World Test

[@SoundFixationTV]

Thanks!

[@stevewoodley5081]

Amazing! Thank you for devoting your time to this experiment. However I am about to replace my 2010 iMac 8gb RAM 1TB memory, as it is now unsurprisingly struggling with my logic projects. I mainly record traditional band project and I also intend to upgrade my interface to a Soundcraft ui 24r or similar. I have very limited budget so what spec Mac mini do you advise? Quite happy with a couple of external SSD Drives so 256 or 512 mem is fine.

[@SoundFixationTV]

Thank you @stevewoodley5081! Glad you enjoyed the video! So. the first place I would recommend you to checkout for your purchase is: browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks Find your current 2010 iMac, and compare the single & double core scores to the different Mac Mini versions you are researching. This will give you a good overall view what what type of performance boost you will see coming from you older Mac. (I had the 2010 Mac Pro prior to purchasing the m2 Ultra). Also, if you are using Logic Pro, wait till you see my next video coming out where I test the M2 Ultra with Logic. You're going to love the results! Thanks again!

[@stevewoodley5081]

@@SoundFixationTV Thanks for the reply and geekbench suggestion. Look forward to the next video 👍

[@robertjoyce8527]

Would love to see what happens with 32 sample buffer.

[@jackiez1012]

love your video! very helpful! thanks! I would love to see a video you run this with Rosetta mode, I want to know if Rosetta mode will be less powerful than Apple Silicon.Thank you very much!Have a nice day!

[@SoundFixationTV]

Great suggestion! Will try to include it in a follow up Cubase video!

[@jackiez1012]

@@SoundFixationTV Thanks man! can't wait for it! cause I'm also using cubase and have the same M2 Ultra like yours,but I have to use the Rosetta mode for my UAD plugins,when I use the Rosetta mode,it seems like I can't load that much tracks.

[@makegamemusic]

Very good to see it working so nicely on yours! My friend just bought one and we were shocked to see how much single core CPU Kontakt Pharlight used (above 50% for 6 notes polyphony), Would be interested to know if you have similar issues with the heavier Komplete libraries. Not sure if you can see individual cores on Cubase though like you can on Logic. After seeing his I was a bit put off getting one myself but watching this vid is making me wonder if his has a problem.

[@SoundFixationTV]

Hey @makegamemusic! Unfortunately I don't think I have Pharlight, otherwise I would have gladly tested it for you. I am aware that Pharlight is notoriously bad at CPU usage! However, I will reach out to a good friend who is always up to date on all Native Instrument libraries and he just upgraded to the m2 ultra. Give me a day or so, and I'll get back to you! On your other question, Cubase performance meter does not show individual cores like Logic. Do you use Logic???

[@makegamemusic]

@@SoundFixationTV That would be really interesting to find out how it works on his. I really like the new Lores library but that’s a CPU hog too! And yes, when I work with him I use logic. I also use cubase occasionally though when collaborating with others, I love them both (and Studio One for that matter!)

[@SoundFixationTV]

@@makegamemusic Stay tuned for the Logic version of my Cubase test. Its good! Ill keep you posted on Pharlight.

[@makegamemusic]

@@SoundFixationTV Will keep an eye out for your next vid!

[@RoughBikeNetwork]

I’m working on a project, same mac, same software. 39 audio channels, 3 kontakt instances and it’s peaking already on the asio. What do I missing here ?

[@MichelBarbaro]

I'm not a tech guy, but when you simply duplicate Kontakt tracks aren't the same samples used? Making it not a test as it would be in real life, with different sample libraries loaded. Even so an impressive machine specs wow. I have a Mac Mini M1 16GB RAM and it is already a beast, Thanks for the video!

[@SoundFixationTV]

I agree! The ultimate "real world" test would be 1000 tracks each playing something else and each loaded with a completely different Kontakt patch. (Would take hours and hours) Furthermore, even better if combining different players like EW Play, Sine, Spitfire Player, etc. I can only say that my RAM usage shot up to 120-140 GB of usage. How that works....? It's all wizardry to me! Thanks so much for the comment!

[@Ananda7uk]

wich soundcard is being used here?? it is crazy how fast this computer is.

[@musicbyjoaoluis5778]

Hello! First of all, thank you for your video! Secondly, would it be possible to know how much total RAM the VIs are using at the start?

[@SoundFixationTV]

Hey @musicbyjoaoluis5778! So the project starts with about 7 Gb of ram and goes over 120gb of RAM by the end! Thanks for the comment!

[@directed6924]

What was your ASIO-Guard setting in this test?

[@subramaniamchandrasekar1397]

Heard these computers have some sort of automatically increasing the buffer size when the load is increased. Is there a way to monitor the active buffer size during the play? Regards.

[@kwameryan]

Amazing demo! PLEASE do Studio One. I’ve been using the M1 Mac mini but it get’s crushed by the kind of orchestral stuff I do these days. It would be great to know if S1 plays nice with the M2 Ultra! Btw…it’s true that you can get this performance on a PC for half the money but not in any way that’s portable! 😅

[@SoundFixationTV]

Thanks @kwameryan! I plan on including Studio One in an upcoming performance test! Stay tuned and thanks for your comment!

[@kwameryan]

@@SoundFixationTV Sure thing! I subbed so I don't miss your upcoming content. 😊

[@SoundFixationTV]

@@kwameryan Studio One Video is up! kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5a0knqDjZKmapo

[@johnnyblaze9217]

@@SoundFixationTVjust want you to know this is amazing work

[@uadcro]

Hey! Is the latency ultra low when you track vsti's? Could I trigger e-drums and piano without feeling any latency? I am asking because I saw many very powerful configurations in the past that didn't perform so well in that regard. You are using an UFX like I do so you know what I'm talking about. The UA Apollos were great but never matched the RME latency, hence I went with RME without a second thought, even though I like UAD plugins and Unison very much and have an UAD octo. What about native plugins (comps, reverb etc), maybe you could try that also, it would be very interesting. I guess this machine performs well in every aspect but I am happy to check everything before I buy it because it cost a lot of $$. Thanks in advance 💪💪

[@SoundFixationTV]

Hey @uadcro! I've never used e-drums before and can't say for sure. But I find by reducing the buffer to 64 on the RME, I can't feel any delay when playing my midi keyboard to the software samples, be they drum samples or otherwise. When I bought my RME, I bought the UA Apollo at the same time. And after extensive testing, RME was easily my choice! The latency and the drivers are just excellent. And yes... do take advantage of the return policy of any Apple computer you decide to buy! Test the crap out of them within the return window, because they are $$$$ expensive! Thanks for the comment!

[@user-ml5ck8ls7d]

Thanks for sharing this video, so there are no problems using Kontakt 7.1.6 with the m2 chip? Reason I ask, I'm thinking of getting a Mac Studio (12 core, M2 max, 64gb ram) and using it with that.

[@SoundFixationTV]

No problems at all: Kontakt 7 works great!

[@user-ml5ck8ls7d]

@@SoundFixationTV nice! Good news that - cheers for reply. Are you using any UAD plugins, any problems there?

[@Innovationstationmusic]

Would love to see some tests on Logic. Also wondering how M2 Max would fare with same test, and also how much the 192GB makes a difference relative to say, 64GB. Thanks!

[@SoundFixationTV]

Logic performance test coming soon! As for your question about Ram, the computer CPU performance won't be affected by ram. However, your RAM size dictates how many patches can be loaded into memory. With these powerful new computers, the CPU is powerful enough to run hundreds of instruments. Depending on the size of your patches, your Ram size could be a limiting factor. If you are not running HUGE templates, an M2 Max with 64gb of Ram would still be a fine computer!

[@SoundFixationTV]

Logic video up! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXSlepetZbFqo68

[@vicvic0430]

Hi are you using native apple silicon ver or the Rosetta ver?

[@EsperanzaLibertad-sh6sv]

Thanks for the test! How loud was the fan noise under these circumstances?

[@elitepapercuts]

My M2 Ultra never makes a sound under heavy use

[@EsperanzaLibertad-sh6sv]

@@elitepapercuts thanks. I got a M2 Max now and I‘m loving it.

[@airyfizz]

More then anyone could ever need though!)

[@SoundFixationTV]

It's never enough! (Just kidding!) Thanks for the comment @airyfizz !

[@scottharris7222]

I am also curious as to how much RAM of the 196GB you used when you hit the 900+ tracks. I know this will be variable depending upon the library but the information will give me some valuable insight.

[@SoundFixationTV]

Hey Scott, I reached about 120gb of ram used by the end of the video. However, keep in mind that I had the Memory pre-load buffer on Kontakt set at 60kb. Reducing that to the minimum of 6kb, would DRASTICALLY reduce RAM usage. Hope this helps!

[@scottharris7222]

@@SoundFixationTV - wow! I am wondering for practical purposes if an attached nvme drive with Kontakt libraries would be able to stream with the minimal preload ram and still reach that crazy 900_ track count you got... So many questions. Wonderful video. I have a Macbook Pro and did similar stress testing with it, obviously within its limirs. My pal is has a Mac Studio Ultra M2 in the cart and is just trying to decide how much ram he needs. Money is a factor for him and he doesn't do orchestral work so his templates are a lot smaller.

[@tomrhea6655]

Which version of Cubase are you using?

[@thewhitedude11]

Appreciate the video! Was wonderingg if you think 128gb unified would be good enough if im producing audio but not using as many instances of kontakt player. Ive not used mac before, and i want to have iit not completely break the bank

[@SoundFixationTV]

So, if you are not using INSANE track counts, then absolutely: 128 Gb of RAM is plenty! To be honest, I could be very comfortable with 128Gb of RAM myself! What type of music do you make?

[@thewhitedude11]

@SoundFixationTV I'm currently building my home studio setup for client work, but my band is a Renaissance Festival group. We do Irish folk as well as some rock. We have a couple plugins that use kontakt, but my computer is an old gaming PC, so it's about time for an upgrade

[@SoundFixationTV]

@@thewhitedude11 Cool! Send me a link on the your band if you have one! If you're mostly going to be tracking live instruments, then even 128Gb is overkill IMO. 64Gb would be plenty. I would also go as far to say that if live-recorded instruments (Audio) makes up the majority of your tracks, I would probably go for the M2 Max. You can save tons that way. As always, you'll have 14 days to test it out. Clear out a few days (or nights), and test the crap out of it with the type of work you do! And obviously return if it doesn't do what you want! And finally, if you are in the USA, purchase through Apple Education store. You'll get a nice discount. (If you do a little quick online search, you'll find they are not asking for any proof for US market only)

[@andivax]

Cubase has a couple of critical buffer settings. Make sure to stop it properly

[@scottharris7222]

I'd love to see the ultimate maximum limit, Sample Latency to 2048, ASIO Guard on Maximum just to see the ultimate upper limit with your template.

[@SoundFixationTV]

Great idea, will do my best to include in a follow up video! Thanks for the comment!

[@scottharris7222]

Wonderful. Also can you tell us how much of the 196gb of RAM you were using when you hit max with those settings. That would be interesting to know.

[@georgeogrady449]

Thing each channel each tune running that same time

[@thaleschadiarakos196]

❤

[@teddym2808]

How was ram usage? Do you really need 192GB? I presume you are using all external storage for pretty much everything?

[@cubaseman1487]

192 or 64 gb ram does it matter much?

[@zvenx]

Wow.. I would have loved to see how much you could have gotten at 128 sample buffer size.. I either use 64 or 128 when I am composing/recording...

[@SoundFixationTV]

Stay tuned @zvenx! I'll wait a bit for other comments, and will do a followup video with many of the specific requests in the comment section here! Feel free to add additional requests you'd like to see!

[@zvenx]

@@SoundFixationTV wow. Thanks. I would love of you can include some know heavy cpu intensive vstis.. thanks

[@leeahegg2377]

Love to see it in Logic and lower the HW buffer size, let's say 64 or 128! thanks in advance!

[@SoundFixationTV]

Logic Pro test video is coming soon! Already recorded, its in the editing process! Stay tuned!

[@SoundFixationTV]

Logic Video is up! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXSlepetZbFqo68

[@thehightenor2596]

You can get more tracks with an Intel i9 13900K (for half the price) .... BUT .....not silently with no heat, it's certainly a very impressive demontration. Apples Studio M2 Ultra is a great piece of software and hardware engineering.

[@SoundFixationTV]

i9 intel 13900k is a great CPU. I can report that during my entire test, the m2 ultra fans did not engage at all!

[@braunhausmedia]

I'd rather sacrifice those extra tracks for the pleasure of using MacOS. I use Windows for business applications and the OS drives me nuts.

[@thehightenor2596]

@@braunhausmedia like many, I use Windows and OSX systems and I’m OS agnostic. My motivation to buy a Mac Studio M2 Ultra would be entirely focused upon the lack of noise and heat the unit generates.

[@SoundFixationTV]

@@thehightenor2596 It is insane how quiet the M2 is with such large loads as in this test. If that's your motivation, you will be happy!

[@znerolepicmusic6015]

hey there, I actually doubt that, Dom Sigalas said his M1 Max (not ultra) MBP completely outperforms his i9 PC. Raw computin power of the intel chip is higher, but due to optimization I think that apple silicon seems to be preferable.

[@richardgordon9939]

please do a test with logic

[@joelchristian11]

nice collor setup, could i get it bro ?? thanks

[@SoundFixationTV]

Id have to see how to export the color setup....

[@anupam3301]

Can i go with the base varient of Mac mini M2 (8gb Ram) with cubase for music production....?

[@SoundFixationTV]

A great place to see general differences between the Mac lineup is: browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks Generally speaking, I would highly recommend more RAM, and purchase the very best CPU you can afford. I would say, 32gb of RAM would be the minimum. Of course this all depends on what type of music production you are doing. I would need more information to give an informed opinion. Thanks so much for commenting!

[@richardgordon9939]

as darth vader would say, impressive, most impressive

[@coldprojectofficial]

Which OS?

[@bradfordnyght9159]

Unfortunately, with nearly this exact setup (M2 Ultra 128gb RAM, 2 TB SSD) I'm crashing and burning in Cubase 12 Pro with the Audio Performance meter starting to hang near 90% with something like 90 channels (not all are VIs)... In the middle of a feature film score and now I'm considering swithing back to my 2019 iMac i9 8core... Wish I could figure out what was going on...

[@SoundFixationTV]

Hey @bradfordnyght9159, I don't have all the answers, but it sounds like a particular vst or vi is not working as it should. I would create a duplicate of the session, and then pull up the performance meter. One by one, remove each VST plugins or VI instruments, and monitor the performance meter to see which one might be causing the issue. I've had cases like that in the past. I hope you find out what's causing the issue!

[@whileimgaming]

Need clarification for few things: What audio interface was being used, what sample rate, and what buffer size What project preferences were used? 24bit, 32bit float, or 64bit float What asio guard setting was used How were the kontakt's setup? How was the routing done (asking because of bussing takes cpu-cycles) This could have been a really good test, if you would have given a rundown of the system and shown the system resources while playback.

[@SoundFixationTV]

Hey @whileimgaming! So pretty much all of that information is shared in the first 2 minutes of the video. It begins around the 1:00 mark. Thanks!

[@whileimgaming]

@@SoundFixationTV Aa, so it was. Would be nice to see a a/b to 32 or 64bit float projects. This is getting bit nitpicky, but did you setup your own preferences in the kontakt?

[@THEREALTWISTEDINSANE]

What OS version ?

[@SoundFixationTV]

Hey @THEREALTWISTEDINSANE , Operating System is Ventura 13.4.1. BTW, I checked out your channel, its excellent!

[@THEREALTWISTEDINSANE]

@@SoundFixationTV I thank you

[@Stevenashbeats]

Please make same with Ableton 11🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@SoundFixationTV]

Ableton test coming up soon!

[@georgeogrady449]

Out dateed for mixer windows 11

[@AndyGrayedout]

No change the audio settings to 32bit float , you will get doubled the Vis ! I’ll send a link in my test , but I think it’s getting deleted.

[@karanol2586]

Do this in i9 pc windows 11

[@SoundFixationTV]

aaaah... unfortunately I don't have an i9. Thanks for the comment!

[@MentalBlue]

How much did you pay for it ? For this price it should do 970 tracks! It is insane the price that apple asks for this.

[@fog5582]

you r playing samples, basically... it's like mp3 player. To cut short - KONTAKT loaded into RAM and system just retrieves recorded samples. So you could watch how many RAM your 55 (or how much it was at first round) tracks use and compare that amount to MacStudio RAM. RAM is not a problem. The problem is CPU... Insert 2 audio tracks with Oaeksound Sooth/Spiff on them with 8x oversampling, add fabfilter limiter with 32x oversampling add saturation plugin (Saturn2 4x oversampling), these plugins process sound which generates NotSampleBasedSynth (not omnisphere, REAKTOR/Modular/VCV for example) and run these 2 tracks in 32bit/192kHz project (aliasing is very unique feature which exists only in digital environment, that's why oversampling is important for dynamic and saturation processing, physical-modeled and algorithm based synths and reverbs/delays and some "clever" plugins) and after that make a video if you still will be thinking that MacStudio is good investment... Right now you just showing how many songs your mp3 player can play... simultaneously though... stop wasting our time "homemade" youtubers, please...

[@AndyGrayedout]

Logic is 32bit float , also is Kontakt and 99% of all Vis

[@AndyGrayedout]

Check you have cubase set to 32bit , as none of the Vis are 64bit .

[@SoundFixationTV]

Hey Andy, OSX Ventura doesn't support 32bit and neither does Apple Silicone mode. Everything including Kontakt (Only software used) is 64bit. Thanks for the comment!

[@AndyGrayedout]

It’s not the OS side which is 64bit , it’s the audio engine side , I have run lots of tests and have Logic and cubase , with cubase set you 32bit audio you get double the Vis

[@AndyGrayedout]

I should also say logic is 32 bit audio , Cubase defaults to, 64bit this is not the recording this is the internal engine dealing with the dynamic range , all of the tests I’ve done show no difference with performance between 32 and 64, except for virtual instruments

[@chumza7498]

That's an over kill peace of mashine

[@SoundFixationTV]

Yes it is! Thanks for the comment!

[@georgeogrady449]

No slowing down

[@cultserpent4501]

Hmm! At first i was shocked, then i realized these libraries are kinda old and not so "heavy". Do you believe that performance would deteriorate with modern - heavier libraries? Thanks for this amazing video

[@SoundFixationTV]

Hey @cultserpent4501! You're absolutely right! For example, we wouldn't be able to play 1000 tracks of high CPU usage Kontakt libraries, for example something like Pharlight, or other "heavy" libraries. However... there was a time (Not long ago at all I might add!) that our computers couldn't even have 1000 "empty" instances of Kontakt loaded, never mind actual patches loaded and playing at the same time! If you haven't had a chance, check out the Logic version of this test, the track count is absolutely incredible! : kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXSlepetZbFqo68 Thanks so much for your comment!

[@franksaraceno1171]

Steinberg sucks - Logic Pro beat it 2200 tracks

[@SoundFixationTV]

lol Yup, Logic Pro smoked both Cubase & Studio One! And that's coming from me as a Cubase user! 😀

[@AndyGrayedout]

I have both , and cubase bests logic on my m2 96gb MBP , cubase needs to be set to 32bit as Kontakt is not 64bit .

[@SoundFixationTV]

Hey Andy, Im operating Cubase on Apple Silicone mode using Ventura OS.