Macedonia is Macedonia! Makedonija e Makedonija! Mazedonien Mazedonien!

[@TheAlexanderGreat]

The Macedonian sun is found in the icons and frescoes in the churches throughout the whole territory of divided Macedonia, and speaks of volumes of tradition as the Macedonian nation had cherished it for centuries.

[@TheAlexanderGreat]

The Macedonian sun can be found engraved on the centuries-old Macedonian churches and monasteries, and it is also common in the hand made centuries-old folklore designs.

[@PeceFromHeraklea]

One hundred or so years later, we are still discussing the Macedonian question which should be obvious by now that it cannot be solved without the participation of the Macedonian people. The legacy of Berlin subjected Macedonia to three new tyrants (Greeks, Serbians and Bulgarians) who began a violent assimilation program and a long period of brutal oppression to a point of genocide, which has lasted to this day. The Times (London), 6th January 1997, p. 12.

[@puncyy]

it is high time that the Macedonians are recognised!We have our own language and culture.All around the world we are united in one language and faith,which keeps us strong! Alexander the great of Macedon 338bc

[@CasperMKD]

5***** rated favorited BRAVO brate !! Macedonia to the Macedonians !!

[@TheMovieChanneI]

The word "MACEDONIA" in Greece was banned for use until 1988.

[@Lmdamoff]

I thought Phillip battled the greeks and became their leader? That would possibly be the reason Alexander was given a Greek name. Also, it would cause Greeks and Macedonians to evolve their customs together. Macedonia will always be Macedonia but I think the Macedonia today is greatly influenced by Greece.

[@TheAlexanderGreat]

The Macedonians were not Greek, but simply Macedonians, and Macedonia was never a Greek land. Actually, the very first time that the modern Greeks have seen the Macedonian sun (Vergina sun) was only in 1978. However, the modern Macedonians had known about this symbol ever since Alexander the Great and his father Philip II had used it.

[@TomCat2800]

Pardon, but here in Greece we regard Macedonia as a country of it's own geography, culture, and ethnicity. Just because of the few uneducated fools that say not, you cannot judge all Greeks because of that. STOP generalizing. I don't judge all Macedonians as fools because I have met a few racist ones, where most that I've met are educated and kind friends of mine.

[@macedoniamacedonian999]

Proud Passionate Macedonian from Aegean Macedonia (occupied by athenian state), freedom for aegean macedonia Macedonia For Macedonians .. Aegean Vardar Pirin Is One Macedonia

[@baldrick1485]

Long live Macedonia and Macedonians! Turkey is with you forever!

[@HeavenForbid7]

I AM TURKISH AND I AM FOR MACEDONIA!

[@ISTORICAR]

Odlicno video Bobo , bravo !

[@stamaster100]

You would be spot on if your comment was as such. Dear Fyromians Macedonia is a region, NOT A COUNTRY!! ·

[@TheAlexanderGreat]

"The Star of Vergina is not a Greek symbol, except in the sense that it happens to have been found on the territory of the present-day Greek state. The modern day Greeks appropriated ancient Greek cultural symbols because they happen to live in, more or less" - Professor Peter Hill

[@michailovicdostoevskij7303]

bravos majstore! napred MAKEDONIJA

[@TheAlexanderGreat]

We should point out that the original name of Vergina where the discovery was made in 1978, was Kutlesh. This original Macedonian name was replaced by the Greek name Vergina, after Greece swallowed 51% of the territory of Macedonia, including Kutlesh, with the partition of 1913.

[@TheAlexanderGreat]

The Macedonian Sun is undoubtedly the oldest symbol in the world that still survives as cultural symbol of the Macedonians. This 8-rayed and 16-rayed Macedonian Sun had been cherished by the Macedonians for over 3,000 years.

[@TheAlexanderGreat]

Therefore, if anybody is steeling this Macedonian symbol today, that is the modern Greeks, since they knew nothing about it until 1978, while the Macedonians had cherished it ever since its existence.

[@stamaster100]

Quote: It is difficult to know whether an independent Macedonian state would have come into existence had Tito not recognized and supported the development of Macedonian ethnicity as part of his ethnically organized Yugoslavia

[@stamaster100]

He did this as a counter to Bulgaria, which for centuries had a historical claim on the area as far west as Lake Ohrid and the present border of Albania. “Macedonia Redux”, Eugene N. Borza, The Eye Expanded: Life and the Arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity, Frances B. Titchener and Richard F. Moorton, Jr., editors

[@MrCrazylicious]

@Macedonia1ful greece has many provinces because of her size. Iperous, macedonia, thrace, thessaly, peloponnese etc. Thessalians or creatans are greeks, macedonians too. You cant say that peloponnesians or macedonians are not greeks because greece has a different name for her provinces...The province around Athens is called as Attica, nobody can support that Atticus people are not greeks because they are not Athenians. Understood?

[@lorkaniontm4466]

True!

[@User-Lynx-c3po]

@rac00on What happened to Vardarska Banovina and the Kingdom of Prilet ?

[@MrCrazylicious]

@erhanvb though turkish are muslims , they have Sunday as a day off and not Friday as all the muslim countries because most of greeks are cristians and they have the Sunday as a day off. Greeks influenced turkish and turkish influenced greeks. Did you know that in Turkey every year are sold more than 8million books of Bible?

[@socratis904]

malaka barabrian, the sun is a star, what kind of schools do you have there in FYROMIA

[@SWIFTerMKD]

Long live Macedonia!

[@anger96]

some of the countrys who recognized macedonia - USA, UK, China, Russia, Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro, Serbia, Slovenia, Algeria, Argentina, Austria, Belarus, Bolivia, Botswana, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Canada, Chile, Costa Rica, Cuba, Czech Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Estonia, Hungary, India, Iran, Ireland, Kuwait, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Malaysia...

[@Avatos1983]

The Alfrint Vitstsorek, director of the Museum of Mannheim "Rice - Englechorn" which will organize exhibition on Alexander said that the ancient commander "was mostly Greek and in no ancestor of the modern Macedonian. The Vitstsorek reported on findings suggesting that the population of Skopje, the fourth of which speaks Albanian and Slav three quarters, is descended from peoples who migrated to the region six AD century, long after the death of Alexander the Great.

[@apoelapoel1]

The Vardar Banovina or Vardar Banate or Vardarska Banovina (Serbo-Croatian: Vardarska banovina, Вардарска бановина) was a province (banovina) of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia between 1929 and 1941. It was located in the southernmost part of the country, encompassing the whole of today's Republic of Macedonia, southern parts of Central Serbia and southeastern parts of Kosovo. It was named after the Vardar River and its administrative capital was the city of Skopje.

[@CasperMKD]

bravo brate uste ednas !!! Macedonia to the Macedonians !!

[@MrTriton41]

2:05 Oh really? You forgot to mention...the part where ancient Macedonians took part in the Olympic Games,where only Greeks/Hellenes could take part,they spoke Ancient Greek and they believed to the 12 Ancient Greek Gods. 2:30 "[...] and forbidding the speaking of the Macedonian language." I didnt know that Ancient Bulgarian Language excisted :D

[@plamentherockfella]

@0508956 Well we're RESPECTED MEMNERS OF EU.And wich European Union FYROM is in? :-)

[@macedoniamacedonian999]

@kxs14 "Greece" a german creation, which has seen an influx of many peoples migrating to this region which is know known as "Greece" vlachs,aranvites, slavs, huge migration from asia minor, macedonians, turks which have been assimilated in the modern athenian state. Athenian politics working to create and sustain a "greek state"

[@kxs14]

@patka1982 Do u believe that you are greek? Because macedonia is greek.. I dont care what you are , but there is a historical gap of 1400 years before you come at this area. ;) It is written in history. So your words are just air in my ears.

[@DALAMYIAN]

@jouvemin190 he ask you one question but is you on blah, blah, blah, ancer this question wy the slavobulgarians have chenge the names of heracleia lykeiesty , monastiry to bitola ?

[@james501001]

The Spartans Illyrians and the acedonians Thracians?? Lol, you lost all credibility especially with your second statement . Dont try to talk about my history if you know nothing about it.

[@HaggisMacfee-JapanHouse]

@MKDULTRA [Dr Stephen Batchelor, 'The Ancient Greeks for Dummies'] "Ancient Macedonia was - and still is - a territory of GREECE, the ancient Macedonians were of GREEK ORIGIN and spoke a broader rougher dialect of GREEK."

[@piksata]

Macedonia isn't Greek. But I think it has some connection with Bulgaria (I am not saying that Macedonians are Bulgarians, but they have a connectioni with the Bulgarians) ;)

[@anger96]

Maldives, Moldova, Mongolia, Morocco, , Nepal, Nigeria, Paraguay, Poland, Romania, , Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Slovakia, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine,ect

[@jsfnetGreece]

@jsfnetGreece Also tell us what the word Macedonia means! also tell how it is possible as u support macedonians not speak greek and have greek names : Philippos = Philos (friend) + IPPOS (Horse) , Alexandros (ALEX from Alexamini = Protect) ANDROS (from ANDRAS = man) ... how is this possible... if werent greeks?? eh?? Just simple!

[@funfff]

Listen "makedokovich" the people whose language you speak arrived at the balkans 1000 years after the death of Alexander.... That's an historical fact either you like it or not. Unless you are some kind of time travelers it is not possible to be Macedonians. That's why we the greeks care about the name cause its ours.The (real) Macedonians are greeks like the Athenians, the Spartans and so on. AND YES I STUDY the marbles carved with my language the real Macedonians left behind....

[@TheAlexanderGreat]

Macedonia was never a Greek land. Actually, the very first time that the modern Greeks have seen the Macedonian sun (Vergina sun) was only in 1978. However, the modern Macedonians had known about this symbol ever since Alexander the Great and his father Philip II had used it.

[@jsfnetGreece]

At 1:53 u shown a map and u say that there isnt any macedonia in this map... Well becuase propably u cnat see... lets help u. In the right the table worte: 1: Eastern Macedonia and thrace, 2: Central Macedonia 3: Western Macedonia 4: Epirus 5: Thessaly etc!! ooops.... a mistake??? Also the Star of Vergina isnt a star, we (greeks) call i t " O ILIOS (The Sun) TIS VERGINAS (Of Vergina) " ... check the books.... And last.... U dont say What The Sun Of Vergina means...

[@TomCat2800]

Your wrong, please read the 2008 World Health Report published by the UN. The average height of Greeks is 5 feet and 7 inches. The average weight is 72 Kg. Out country ranks 4th in Europe for the longest life expectancy(over age 80 for both men and women). If you want short people go to Japan (which btw is the coolest country I have been to), if you want fat go to the US, if you want short life expectancy go to poor Albania with a failing health care system.

[@Markostankovic100]

If Mazedonia was always Greece,why was it a part of Yugoslavia???

[@jempappas]

on the contrary; it is not a stupid question. We didn't claim it, it was 3,000 years in the making, Every inscription found on ebery ancient artifact that has been unearthed in FYROM has Greek written on it. I am not cursing, I am not ridiculing, I am merely stating a proven fact. What's done is done. You are indeed Macedonians, but are Macedonians by geography, not by ancient history. deep down, you know this. There is no shame in this, but you cannot steal a history that was not yours...

[@anger96]

also i forgot to mention that macedonians were fights they never give up! They Fight even if they are outnumbered they are fighteing! Macedonia Timeless!!

[@Kraken7897]

Ok ,this is your opinion but..do you have any evidence about that??

[@atlantahawks18]

@balkanboy1991kk Nije tačno da je hteo neko da vas deli sa Grcima,mada bi to i za vas bilo bolje.Da li vam je bolje bilo da vama vladaju Srbi i Grci,ili će vam bolje biti pod Albancima?Ne mogu da shvatim vaš nacionalizam,dok vam Albanci uzimaju teritorije vi se bavite prisvajanjem Grčke istorije.Nisi mi odgovorio da li je tačno da su Komiti i BBB prijatelji?

[@HaggisMacfee-JapanHouse]

@Makedonija389 [David Sacks (1995) 'A Dictionary of the ancient Greek world. Oxford University Press.] "Historians refer to this enlarged GREEK society as the Hellenistic world. At the start of his reign, the 20 year old Alexander was the crowned king of only Macedon - A CRUDE GREEK NATION of mainland Greece."

[@makedonchesto]

My fellow "Macedonians" the time come for us to give up this dream. We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians just macedonians who live in a part of Macedonia land. It's time to ask for forgiveness from the GREEKS and be friends. We have no chanse of taking soething which was never us in the first place. I know it will be hard for you all but the truth must be told and we have to face it. It's time to ask for forgiveness from our Neighbours the Greeks and be friends. IT'S TIME.

[@Chovek1]

I hear you, i too live in Australia and know exactly what you mean !

[@APOLLONTHEEL]

ALEXANDER SPEAK THE GREEK LANGUAGE NOT BARBARIANS MACEDONIA IS GREECE

[@TOSEforeverMAK]

I am PROUD TO BE MACEDONIAN !!!!

[@TomiBT87]

bravo bato super objasnato direkno vo srzta bravo uste ednas

[@diavoliaris]

OMG we did all that? inform me what happened to the Monastiry natives? (yeah you have renamed it to Bitola)

[@nitroflesh]

@freewave77 Very, very bad Google translation.

[@songlyricsgr]

About the Μακεδονία matter,things are simple.Me and every greek can read what is written in Vergina on the tomb of Phillipes B' the father of Alexander the Great.Skopjans CAN NOT.Because their language is coming from some kind of slavo-cyrillic alphabete and has nothing to do with the greek language. If it's funny for me to claim I 'm a direct descendant of Alexander the Great, imagine how RIDICULUS it is for a skopjan to claim this. It's like I say that istanbul is in australia :x

[@settenovetre]

the first flag of greece was a white background and a blue cross,then they were reverted.the modern flag of greece has the blue background and white cross,and 9 stripes representing the motto "Eleftheria i thanatos",freedom or death. the current flag of greece was not the first one like any thing vardariotes do,this video is a fail

[@atlantahawks18]

@balkanboy1991kk Ja jesam Srbin,ali to ne znači da smo mi najstariji na Balkanu,pre dolaska Slovena ovde su živeli neki drugi narodi.Glupost je reći da ste vi potomci Antičkih Makedonaca jer tada niste ni bili na Balkanu.Kako Grci mogu biti iskompleksirani,kada njihova prošlost obuhvata Aristotela,Dionisa,i čuvene Spartance i Atinjane,hoćeš reći da su tada Sloveni bili na obalama Egejskog mora?

[@MrTriton41]

Herodotus stated that the 12 Olympian Gods were Egyptians? Did you find that in your school books,that always say the truth,like ''Macedonia for Macedonians'' ..? That's the true explanation about the star of vergina "...royal symbol of Philip of Macedon..." Do you know...that Philip in ancient Macedonia was Philippos?..Greek name. Meaning 'Friend of Horse' Φίλιππος coming out of -> φίλος(friend) + ίππος(horse) Alexander means protector of the man... Αλέξανδρος -> άλεξ(protection) + άνδρας(man)

[@anger96]

Great,super this is going in FAVORITES

[@makedonijaaa777]

BRAVO BRAT TOP VIDEO! THERE IS THE TRUTH !!! MACEDONIA FOREVER!!

[@kakosminas]

What Alexander is Macedonian is supossed to mean?Of course Alexander was macedonian and ofc Macedonia was a state-country of Greece!Alexander is Greek name , his father Phillip the second was Greek his mother Olimpiada was Greek , hit teacher Aristotelis was greek , he was speaking in greek , his father came from the House of Argeadon Macedonians from the blood of heracles (or Hercules,son of Zeus greek demigod)and his mother from the House of Moloson from the blood of Neoptolemos son of Achiles

[@MrCacanoski]

Yes, he was calling all Greeks to join his Macedonian army, he would be glad them to join him in his, i will repeat so you can understand, Macedonian army.

[@anger96]

GREECE: 1. Greeks had heroes, artistry, philosophy, poetry, drama, medicine, music, architecture; 2. Greek cities had Acropolis; 3. Greeks were always culture and democracy people; MACEDONIA: 1. Macedonians had none of these; 2. Macedonian cities in a difference from the Greek cities, never had Acropolis. 3. Macedonians were the biggest drinkers which ever exist on the Earth and the most Barbarian tribes in the past with no civilization. The differences are clear, Macedonia is Macedonia!

[@selin-]

GREECE was the ignorant city-states and spoke throughout GREEK and difficulty was Open plan and dominated throughout the messogio

[@WRX2001]

When was Macedonia banned in Greece...you have no idea

[@jempappas]

The misinformedalexander; it is really important to point out that the name Vergina IS the original name. You write below of the symbol being on "centuries old churches and monastaries". This is laughable. It is only logical that a symbol that is over 3,000 years old, (and a Greek one at that) would be on used again. Like your former president said "We are Slavs who came to this area in the 6th century. We have NO connection to ancient Alexander or to Greece". Wake up please...

[@andrewtsi]

Vardaska or Slavia....but non MACEDONIA

[@kxs14]

@patka1982 i ll post it when i ll found some ;)

[@savdown]

Also our historian Josephus on the book "ANTIQUITIES OF THE JEWS" SAID ON BOOK XI CHAPTER VIII:5 " And when the book of Daniel (THE HIGH PRIEST)was shewed him wherein Daniel declared that the one of the Greeks should destroy the Persian empire".DANIEL 8:20.21. These where written 2000 years ago even if you don't believe nowdays historians (google macedonia-evidence o r g obama-letter) is hard not to belive history itself.

[@SigmaGreek]

Whoever made this video must be mad that Greece is simply macedonia

[@michailovicdostoevskij7303]

the slavs are the biggest group of people in the world! we get use to it, but we exist more before than the slavs....study please...

[@NickJovanovski]

BRILLiANT VIDEO welldone :)

[@mk88887]

Само Македонија!

[@spyros9797]

I live in Athens but i am from Pella the birth place of Alexander I am Greek and I am the real descendant of Ancient Macedonians! stop using my name.You are Slavs because you speak a Slavic language similar to Bulgarian I know that the sun of vergina symbolises the 4 natural elements(fire water earth air) and the 12 Gods and guess Greeks had the same Gods(Egyptians had Gods like Annubis there was not such a thing in Greece). All the historical monuments of Alexander's Empire are found in Hellas

[@diavoliaris]

Makedonia is Makedonia Arcadia is Arcadia Lakedemonia is Lakedemonia Thrace is Thrace Corinthos is Corinthos And all together they are the miracle called Greece As for FYROM it is a mixture of Bulgaria Albania Serbia Peonia...

[@theoogabattlefield120]

PELOSOFOS EVERY Greek city state including macedonia is allowed in this war(Persian war).

[@jempappas]

Let ma ask you this: what is so wrong with the name :Republic of Northern Macedonia" or "Upper Macedonia"? Is it not an accurate description of your identity? Is it so insulting? The reality is that your country WILL change it's name soon, and the sooner you do, the better off you will be.

[@drdangel21]

lol.... YOU SHOULD READ SUPERMAN... it makes more sense that what you say...

[@MrM0dulator]

this video should be awarded as the video with the most lies said in 3 minutes... However, if you watch it as a joke, it is quite boring...

[@igorbog88]

Macedonia MUST UNITE. JOIN US BOTHERS ! AGAINST THE GREEK AND BULGARIAN OPRESSION !!!!

[@atlantahawks18]

@balkanboy1991kk Po sporazumu iz Bukurešta Vardarska Makedonija je pripala Srbiji,tako da ste vi ustvari južni Srbi,izdali ste svoje poreklo.Ako ste vi poreklom Antički Makedonci onda je Cezar moj čukundeda.Antički Makedonci su današnji Grci,nije istina da imate neke veze sa njima.Ako nastavite da provocirate Grke napašće vas i povratiće teritoriju koja im pripada.

[@christsak1901]

Sorry if i am so concise. Macedonia was and is Greek.

[@kostasdania]

MAKEDONIA WAS IS AND ALLWAYS BE HELLENIC U LIKE IT OR NOT!!!

[@HaggisMacfee-JapanHouse]

@Cekirge5 Greeks came into Greece about 1900 -1650 BC from the forests of Northern Europe . The slavic-Bulgarian people of FYRoM arrived in Europe in 700AD from the Eurasian steppes. That is nearly 2600 years later. R1a is NOT enough as to define ones ancestors, one has to look at sub-clades. And yet, Greek DNA has been shown to be the same as Southern Italian and Tuscan DNA,

[@lowlifetype]

you are fyromian(fake macedonian)but you must make new flag cause the fyronian flag looks like with japan flag.(maybe japan was a fyromian island.....who knows....)

[@mfdimart]

"Αλέξανδρος Φιλίππου και οι Έλληνες πλην Λακεδαιμονίων από των βαρβάρων των την Ασίαν κατοικούντων" (Αρριανός, Αλεξάνδρου Ανάβασις, Α') "Alexander son of Philip and the Greeks except the Spartans from the Barbarians that live in Asia" (Arrian, Alexander's Ascending, A')

[@MrTriton41]

Dont deny your Bulgarian roots the rest is propaganda Krste Crvenkovski, President of the Central Committee of the Union of Communists in the Socialist Republic of Macedonia, to Todor Zhivkov, First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Bulgaria (May 19, 1967) “And whether bulgarian consciousness exists in Macedonia, this is a historical legacy. We’re now writing our history. We can’t write that until 1940 we were Bulgarians and after 1940 Macedonians.”

[@atlantahawks18]

@balkanboy1991kk Tačno je da postoji Egejska Makedonija i Vardarska Makedonija,ali to ne znači da postoje Makedonci kao poseban narod,1945. je nastala republika koja je Titova tvorevina u cilju cepanja Srba,vi jeste južni Srbi,oduvek je Srpska Pravoslavna Crkva bila jedina kanonska,sve do nasilnog otcepljenja 1992.

[@andreasss007]

you think you are not doing propaganda ?you all go blindfolded and say whatever they teach u in ur schools the last 30 years....

[@Gdarte]

Of course, Macedonia is not Greek! She, Macedonia is BULGARIAN!!!! Best regards from GREAT BULGARIA....

[@Katerinoula1980]

Ur statements are stupid. At 300BC Greece as a unity did not exist. Only Greek city states that fought each other. The Spartans were against the Athenians. In the battle of Cheronia the Spartans did not participate as they did not wish to fight the Macedonians that were also Dorians and belonged to the same tribe as them

[@1966navis]

The ancient Macedonia is conquered by Rome empire in 148 BC.After that there are several invasions,the most important of them is Slav's in 6 th century,then Bulgerian's of khan Kubrat ets.I'm not obliged to educate anyone,but I have to! These are facts!Everything else is nonsense, propaganda or even TAILS, but not HISTORY! Finally, present Macedonia begin part of Bulgarian Kingdom and people accept Bulgarian language,consuetude and traditions.That was till 1945, when Serbs take possession of it!

[@Doxadramitis]

I am a Makedon because i am Greek Modern & Ancient Greek alphabet Αα,Ββ,Γγ,Δδ,Εε,Ζζ,Ηη,Θθ,Ιι,Κκ, Λλ,Μμ, Νν,Ξξ,Οο,Ππ,Ρρ,Σς,Ττ,Υυ,Φφ,Χχ, Ψψ,Ωω Ancient Athenian,Spartan,Macedonian, Thessalian,Beotian,Heperotian, Thrakian and each Greek City-State alphabet Αα,Ββ,Γγ,Δδ,Εε,Ζζ,Ηη,Θθ,Ιι,Κκ, Λλ,Μμ, Νν,Ξξ,Οο,Ππ,Ρρ,Σς,Ττ,Υυ,Φφ,Χχ, Ψψ,Ωω IT IS ALL GREEK

[@atlantahawks18]

@balkanboy1991kk Ja sam iz Niša i već sam to napisao,ali si ćorav i nisi video.Kroz Republiku Skoplje mogu samo proći na putu do Grčke jer ste nevidjena zabit,ne pomažu vam ni spomenici grčkim junacima da postanete grad.Mi smo vas izgradili posle zemljotresa '63 i priznanje Kosova nam je hvala,bili ste najsiromašnija oblast u SFRJ.Opet ćete zvati nas Srbe u pomoć,ali ako je ova država bar malo pametna nećemo vam pomagati više.

[@TheAlexanderGreat]

"The Star of Vergina is not a Greek symbol, except in the sense that it happens to have been found on the territory of the present-day Greek state. The modern day Greeks appropriated ancient Greek cultural symbols because they happen to live in, more or less" - Professor Peter Hill

[@rosato1999]

Macedonia is Historically Greek. The best proof comes from the KJV Bible. Daniel 8 presents the Persian and Greek empires. Da:8:1-4 ( Ram with 2 horns is empire of Medes and Persians ). Alexander comes: Da:8:5-8( Great horn is Alexander who died young and his empire divided in 4 parts ) Explanation of above comes from the Bible as well. Da:8:20-21 ( Alexander is referred to as the king of Greece ),Da:8:22 Again Alexander is called the King of Greece Da:10:20 and 11:2