Macedonian music: "Zaramo - Hasapia" (Florina region)

[@MultiJatak]

хееееее,да македонско е ама на правите македонци,is truth this is real macedonian folk dance but is not greek(or gipsian) this is old Macedonian dance called ZARAMO original on cyrillic ЗА РАМО close translate shoulder to shoulder,pls check google translate !!!!!!!!!

[@vanevampiro2770]

Македонија вечна љубов како вечноста музички глас од Лерин Солун да живее Македонија поздрав Битола Париз продолжи

[@СлаваССС-м4с]

"Makedonija" je stara Srbija. Macedonia. Greek history Fyrom. Bulgarian roots

[@steliosbarmpoudis5897]

Βουλγάρε εδώ Ελληνικά θα μιλάς μόνο για να νιώθεις άνθρωπος! Μακεδονία γη Ελληνική, Μακεδονία μάνα μας...Ζητώ η Ελλάδα 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

[@DD7000Bitola]

@@СлаваССС-м4с na gamiso ti mana sou re kolopedo

[@EgejskaYouTuber]

feels good to know Lerinsko culture was not fully erased, God bless

[@thegreekpro]

My Pappou is from Florina, Macedonia, Greece. This music of Florina is more traditional than the propaganda music that the FYROMians created on Florina!!!

[@mellake7052]

It is "more traditional" because it is the original Macedonian music, well before the Turkish Pontians were resettled there. Glad they like it, though.

[@conmasa7192]

That's why all the oldies the aboriginals florina all speak Slavic macedonian then the young were tortured to speak greek..criminals Macedonia will and always be macedonian not greek turks

[@Streetw1s3r]

I'm from Florina too, Greek Macedonian, ancestors fought for the Greek army, but I still grew up with the Macedonian language, culture, and food from my Yiayia, Baba, and Dedo too, and called ourselves multiethnic Greek-Macedonians. Your ignorance suggests to me that you're either a Christian Turk refugee or too badly brainwashed by Greek nationalist propaganda and need to get out and actually travel to the villages around Florina and check out the festivals. A lot of the time they sing in Macedonian, songs like Makedonsko Devojce and local songs about Lerin (Florina). Can you tell me what Zaramo means in Greek? Nothing, right? In Macedonian it means "for the shoulder" (za ramo) as you dance it shoulder to shoulder. ;) Anyway, the point I'm getting to is that we are culturally the same people as our brothers from the north, especially across the southern part, and around Bitola, and around Lake Ohrid. Same language, same culture, same food, same dances. Ethnic Macedonians in Greece's borders aren't unique to Florina and Kostur either, I know of a tonne of villages in West Macedonia, and also Central Macedonia around Pella, and Imathia, and along the north near the border. You should learn to be more respectful towards the citizens you share land with, we've been here far longer than you hateful fascist Pontians.

[@issavisisland9870]

@@Streetw1s3r ethnic Macedonians 🇬🇷, pontians, cretans, thessalians🇬🇷, .... we are all Greeks. Whether you are bulgarian or slavophone Greek. There is no macedonian DNA and language. Alexander and Macedonians 🇬🇷 spread their native Greek language and made it the lingua franca of that time. Alexander's sister was Thessalonike 🇬🇷 Not solun Alexander's grandparents were these Greeks: Amyntas and Evridiki 🇬🇷 Neoptolemos and Andromachi 🇬🇷 Greek names of Macedonians 🇬🇷 that FyrBulgarians 🇲🇰 can't even spell Fullstop.period.

[@jovan-noble-guy749]

​@@Streetw1s3r100% facts? Everything you said is true, keep it up! Greeting from the north, borbata prodolzhuva dodeka ne ve vratime od dushmanot. 🇲🇰🎻

[@nemeciosdiasgr.4483]

ΜΙΑ ΠΑΡΟΙΜΙΑ ΛΕΕΙ:ΕΚΕΙ ΠΟΥ ΜΑΣ ΧΡΩΣΤΟΥΣΑΝ,ΘΑ ΜΑΣ ΠΑΡΟΥΝ ΚΑΙ ΤΟ ΒΟΔΙ....!

[@ΒραζιλιάνοςΒραζιλιάνος-η4ψ]

Για και η Μακεδονία ξανά στους μακεδονες. ..

[@christinakiki75]

The last song is a popular serbian dance and danced a lot at weddings. its what we call circle dance “kolo”

[@mithridates1418]

What people fail to understand is that in many places like Macedonia, Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbians lived together and formed a similar kind of culture and tradition under the Orthodox non-Turkish identity. In a multiethnic state like the Ottoman Empire, traditions were formed more in a geographical way, rather than ethnic. Greek Epirotes are similar to south Albanians, Greek Macedonians are similar to Vardar Bulgarians and Serbians to an extent, Thracians are similar to some Bulgarians so on and so forth. Costumes are similar, food is similar, songs are similar. At the end of the day, we are all Balkan.

[@ggmak1883]

@@mithridates1418 In general good comment, but why you use nonexistent term like Vardar Bulgarian?! Those people are Macedonians. Macedonians from Macedonia(now north) and Macedonians from Greece. It is that simple.

[@mithridates1418]

@@ggmak1883 There is no Macedonian nation. Macedonians are simply a sub group of the Greek nation. The citizens of "North Macedonia" are for the most part of Bulgarian descent with a big Albanian minority. Nothing to do with the term Macedonia and its history besides geographical proximity.

[@ggmak1883]

@@mithridates1418 When it comes to term nation, you should know that when one state exist, by default is a nation. Don't mix up the terms people and nation. Therefore, the nation of North Macedonia is called Macedonians. North Macedonia is a multicultural state> Majority Macedonians, then Albanians, Turks, Serbs etc... There is no such "pure" state. Regarding your note about Albanians, I will say that Greece has quite lot, more then 500 000. I think that you should be more open to the reality and to spread your perspective.

[@mithridates1418]

@@ggmak1883 That's one meaning of the word which is more modern, more American and it's used more as a legal term rather than historical. The original meaning of the word nation is "a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed based on a common language, territory, economic life, ethnicity and/or psychological make-up manifested in a common culture." In other words, there are literally more countries than there are nations. For example Greece and Cyprus are two different states but their peoples belong to the same nation. Same with France and Monaco, Italy and San Marino, and arguably even Russia-Belarus-Ukraine, Germany-Austria-Switzerland, Spain and Andorra, Serbia and Montenegro, Czechia and Slovakia, South Korea and North Korea and guess what, Bulgaria and "North Macedonia". There are numerous examples of historically identical people who ended up on different states because of various of reasons. Furthermore, there are even nations that don't have a state, like Kurds, Assyrians and Romani people. Good knowledge of history would "unlock" to you my point of view. You see things in a disturbingly shallow way.

[@makedonikhgh8075]

Thanks!!! Macedonia, the Land of Alexader the Great! The Greek history!

[@ΑριστείδηςΓκαλέτσης]

​@Ilija Stojanoski Ancient Macedonians called themselves Greeks. Great Alexander conducted the Panhellenic Congrees in Corinthos and united all Greeks. Also they Macedonians participated in Olympic games, where only Greeks had taken part. They believe the same Gods, same language. Scientific research announced that they are part of the Dorian tribe (relatives with Spartans.) Also, in Ottoman Empire there isn't any evidence of "Macedonian" people and language and think that Ottoman Turks didn't have any problem to acknowledge minorities.

[@ΑριστείδηςΓκαλέτσης]

@@crazymacedonianboi Ancient Macedonians called themselves Greeks. Great Alexander conducted the Panhellenic Congrees in Corinthos and united all Greeks. Also they Macedonians participated in Olympic games, where only Greeks had taken part. They believe the same Gods, same language. Scientific research announced that they are part of the Dorian tribe (relatives with Spartans.) Also, in Ottoman Empire there isn't any evidence of "Macedonian" people and language and think that Ottoman Turks didn't have any problem to acknowledge minorities.

[@Lion-rs2qy]

@Ilija Stojanoski YOU WILL NOT TOUCH THESSALONIKI AND IN YOUR STUPID RIDICULOUS LUDICROUS DREAMS IS AS FAR AS YOU WILL GO . YOU GOT NO IDEA WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO YOUR PEOPLE IF YOU STEP JUST ONE FOOT ACROSS THE BORDER

[@Lion-rs2qy]

@@crazymacedonianboi AND IN WHOSE BOOKS HAVE YOU READ THIS I FEEL SO SORRY FOR YOU , FOR YOU ARE IN SUCH A CONFUSED WORLD . YOU DONT EVEN KNOW HER HER PREVIOUS NAME AND ITS MEANING . MAKΕΔΟΝ ΟΝ ΕΝΟΣΙΝ ΟΛΛ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΊΑ ΤΩΝ ΕΛΛΉΝΩΝ. ΗΤΟΝ ΓΑΡ ΠΟΛΕΜΟΝ ΚΙ ΟΥΔΕΝ ΉΘΕΛΑΝ ΝΑ ΕΝΟΔΟΥΝ ΤΑ ΑΛΛ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΙΑ. ΤΟΙ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ Ο ΣΤΡΑΤΟΣ ΗΤΟΝ Ο ΠΟΙΟ ΔΥΝΑΤΟΣ . ΗΤΟΝ Ο ΜΟΝΟΣ ΤΡΟΠΟΣ ΝΑ ΕΝΟΣΗ ΤΑ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΙΑ ΤΩΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ Understand

[@mitkostoichev3905]

@@ΑριστείδηςΓκαλέτσης BRAVO RE FILE MA DEN KSERO AVTO TO PEDI TOU TITO TA SE KATALAVENI?? VASILIUS DEVTEROS INE BULGAROKTONOS KAI INE APO MAKEDONIKI DINASTIA,,PAVLOS MELAS LEI ,,BULGAROS NA MI MENI" ....KSERUME OLI OTI KOMITADZIDES ITAN BULGARI.......MUSTAFA KEMAL GRAFI STI HRONOGRAFIA SU ,,OPOS PEDI EGO STA KALDARAMIA STA SOKAKIA TIS SALONIKI EPEKSA ME PEDIA BULGARI KE YIA AVTO KSERO BULGARIKI GLOSA ...." KANIS MEHRI 1945 DEN EHI DI MAKEDONAS KE MAKEDONIKI GLOSA .

[@conmasa7192]

Long live makedonia ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤never GREEEEEEEK

[@sirbobloblaws]

Go home, you're drunk again.

[@susannas.3432]

Αχ πατέρα με την κορνετα σε ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ .

[@GeorgeTP]

This is only macedonian beautiful music trditional original macedonian bravo agean mecedonoa long live

[@mich.mar.8668]

There is not such thing as "Aegean Macedonia", the Macedonia of Greece is the only original.

[@BudgetGainsByJJ]

Mich. Mar. Why does the music sound the same as the slavic version?

[@mich.mar.8668]

@@BudgetGainsByJJ Because the folk music of Greek macedonians was influenced by that of Bulgarians as macedonia was for many years under Bulgarian occupation.

[@antonimicha2529]

ΠΑΟΚ

[@mellake7052]

@@mich.mar.8668 Why didn't you rename it to have a Greek name then, just as you did to all the native villagers' family names and their village names?

[@ordantrajkovski4134]

Мы помним! Вы удаляете

[@bigozimak]

Holy crap, this reminds me of Macedonian weddings in Wollongong in the 80s! Pozzdrav and Yassou?

[@KEDON]

Zaramo = shoulder to shoulder in Macedonian language 😂😁

[@ΛούκυΛουκας]

*in bulgarian

[@KEDON]

@@ΛούκυΛουκας why greek use zaramo im music ?

[@ΛούκυΛουκας]

@@KEDON The same way that there are turkic,italian,egyptian and other bulgarian words in today's spoken greek dialects. Macedonian and thracian dialects existing next to bulgaria have a lot slavic words in them. Also a lot of words have slavic ends in these regions with the most common example, Μου αρέσει (I like) in villages of macedonia they say Μ'αρέσπα adding the slavic -spa in the end.

[@KEDON]

@@ΛούκυΛουκας ok I don t like politics thank you

[@ΛούκυΛουκας]

@@KEDON you don't like logic and prefer to like feelings and slavic lies

[@alexpapavasileiou4242]

ας μην γραφουμε χασαπια ας γραφουμε μονο ζαραμο το να λεμε τους χορους με το ονομα τους δεν μας κανει προδωτες

[@Greekfolkmusic1]

+Alex Papavasileiou Νομίζω πως ο φίλος σωστά το έγραψε. Ζάραμο είναι το αργό μέρος και χασαπιά το γρήγορο. Έτσι το έλεγαν και οι σλαβόφωνοι "Κασάπσκο όρο".

[@hammourabi8695]

@@Greekfolkmusic1 to.akrives.etsi.to.Legan.kai.to.Legoume. stin.makedonia..🇬🇷 Nomizome.kai.trixes. (ZARAMO)

[@Streetw1s3r]

Since this is a "Greek" song can someone tell me what Zaramo means? ;)

[@TheFlyingGreekman]

Ok so Zaramo comes from Bulgarian and means sth. Like "on the shoulder". What you are asking is a very nice q. Because Macedonia was occupied by Bulgarians Greeks had to learn Bulgarian to communicate. When Bulgarians left, these Greeks had forgotten their language but not their origins. This Bulgarian dialect spoken in Greece is called "Dopika" and the people speaking it, "Dopioi" and they are 100% Greeks since their heroes speaking Dopika fought for Greece such as Captain Garefis, Captain Agras and Captain Kottas. You will not find most of the Dopika songs in Skopje such as Bukite Rasvivat, Zaramo, Patrunino, Pusteno, Starchko and many more. Have a nice day! Macedonia is Greece!

[@Streetw1s3r]

@@TheFlyingGreekman I know what it means, was just wondering if any Greeks did or if they even knew it was a Slavic dance. I'm from Florina and we still speak Macedonian. Not one person calls themselves Bulgarian, we all call our ethnicity and language Macedonian.

[@TheFlyingGreekman]

@@Streetw1s3r however your national heroes are Bulgarian, your language is Bulgarian and you started existing as a separate nation after the fall of Yugoslavia. The True History is the same as the True Church it has succession, a succession that doesn't exist in Sopjan history no matter what you say. Slav speaking people came to the balkan peninsula in the 7th and the 8th Century AD, Alexander was speaking Greek, he was the king of Macedonia and he lived in the 4th Century BC. I have written the reasons of the existence of Dopioi and Dopika songs. If you study the pure, non Tito's fairytale history everything is going to make sense because I ensure you whatever you believe doesn't...

[@charalabos-markosdintsios1356]

@@TheFlyingGreekman You have only to visit Bitola and there they are again, the same songs and traditional dances. Pls. face reality and don't try to scam others. Amongst modern inhabitants of the Greek part of Macedonia there are many ppl. of slavic origin...

[@kostaskazepis2534]

@@Streetw1s3r slavic dances? But you ”northmacedonians” say that you have nothing to do with slavs? Or am I wrong

[@aleksandarstojanov30]

Macedonian dance with macedinian word : za ramo - for schulder. This is not greek dance.

[@steliosbarmpoudis5897]

Bulgarian get out of the cave and learn history, useless Bulgarian thing! Macedonia is Hellas.its simple,you know that too

[@gnas1897]

Macedonian slavs and Greeks are literally the same except for the linguistic element

[@EgejskaYouTuber]

@@gnas1897 I have heard people say that, is they're any source?

[@gnas1897]

@@EgejskaKZbinr they're identical genetically and culturally. In Macedonia culture is not defined by the language spoken but by the area where people live. So greekophones and slavophones from Drama have more or less the same tradition. Same goes for Thessaloniki, Kastoria etc. The only real exceptions are Florina and Edessa regions but that's because nobody spoke Greek there until 1922.

[@EgejskaYouTuber]

@@gnas1897 I see your point, I am from Florina/Lerinsko both names are used lol

[@ditarita1020]

Its macedonian 🇲🇰 not greek „za ramo“ zaramo

[@Macedonia-p7n]

🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰

[@steliosbarmpoudis5897]

Βουλγάρε εδώ θα σέβεσαι !η σημαία των McDonalds🇲🇰 δε μας λέει τίποτα!θα προσκυνας και θα σέβεσαι τους ανθρώπους που σε έμαθαν να μιλάς και να υπάρχεις! Μακεδονία μάνα μας, Μακεδονία γη Ελληνική 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

[@ΔημητρηςΜιτζελος]

MACEDONIA IS FOREVER GREEK

[@alexandroscomingaftermonke596]

@Ilija Stojanoski Macedonia only Macedonian Epiros only Epirotan Crete only Cretan ........ All of them are Greek

[@anetatzaf8631]

@Ilija Stojanoski you are so stupid, we have just mixed our languages and you told that Greece is going to left the balkanias

[@hvar-pharosisland2268]

@Ilija Stojanoski Tzafer is arab not albanian.Albanians adopted it Many Greeks according to their job were given by force Turkalbanian names by Ottomans to make them change their Greek consiousness and faith. For example, Anitas grandgrandfather should be a horse shoe maker and TurkAlbanian Ottomans called him Tzafer . That's the way Greeks and other Balkans adopted these names My uncle Amparis , his grand ....grandfather was working as a sailor in Ampar (ship store). But this Turkish word Ampar comes from Greek emporio (trade) because they used Ampars in ships for trading (emporio) That's how people under ottoman occupation adopted TurkAlbanian or Arab origin names

[@hvar-pharosisland2268]

@@anetatzaf8631 Ο προπρο... Πάππος σου πρέπει να ήταν πεταλωτής ή ιπποκόμος. Κάνε ένορκη δήλωση κάντο Ανίτα Πεταλωτή ή Ανίτα Ιπποκόμου 😂😂 λολ

[@anetatzaf8631]

@Ilija Stojanoski my parents and their parents born in Grecce so i have every right to talk about Macedonia because I live in the "South"Macedonia, I am a greek I dont have any fcnkg idea for my second name

[@MIKEK13ful]

The real greek Macedonia

[@violetanlnl1666]

Feta chees is Greek too 😂 isn't Turkey but really Greek....and only Greek. Everything on the Balkan is Greek. Fulls.....

[@dimitrisps1997]

Fulls of what ?? Maybe bulls ?🇬🇷🇬🇷💪🏻

[@rosentodorov9892]

Long live the Bulgaria

[@steliosbarmpoudis5897]

Drink a vodka my bulgarian friend,open a book and learn history!caress your big red nose and cheeks... Macedonia is Hellas,🇬🇷🇬🇷the nation which teached you how to live and behave..

[@christoskonstantinidis6639]

to all the illiterate animals who call us the Pontic Turks I inform them that we are descendants of Mithridates who was the first Son of Alexander the Great who did not come from a Royal family and was accepted by his bodyguard partners for this and the Pontians mark them which means ours from the bodyguard partners And specially trained soldiers of Alexander

[@christoskonstantinidis6639]

If you really want to know about Mithridates and its descendants and their origin run to the ancient texts and not to Wikipedia

[@RU-Aussie]

Turk

[@nicknolte6420]

No you are not turks but you are a mix race of laz,armenians,persians and georgians.

[@rosentodorov9892]

Bulgaria forever ❤️❤️❤️ from Gorna Oryahovitsa

[@christianknight1329]

"ZARAMO" MEANS NOTHING IN THE GREEK LANGUAGE. STOP PRESENDING THE BULGARIAN TRADITION IN MACEDONIA AS GREEK !!!

[@christianknight1329]

Achilleas Stavropoulos The word “cosmos” and “Europe” have a Greek origin, does it mean that the whole world or the whole Europe is Greek ??? You like it or not the ones dancing “zaramo” where Slavbulgarians as you call them, they weren’t speaking any Greek of any Latin !!!!!!!!!!

[@christianknight1329]

@Achilleas Stavropoulos The one's dancing "zaramo" had a crystal clear Bulgarian national consciousness not only in Florina but in Kastoria, Edessa, Kilkis, Serres, Drama etc. The Bulgarian population in today's Aegean macedonia was much higher than the greek population in Eastern Rumelia

[@christianknight1329]

@Achilleas Stavropoulos 2500000 million macedonians from PONTOS, ASIA MINOR AND THRACE ??? Are these the "Macedonians" you are talking about ???

[@PetarGrand]

Не се пише слято zaramo, а разделно - za ramo = за рамо. Учете български, бре.

[@jovan-noble-guy749]

Тоа има Македонско значење! Научите македонски, бреј. 🇲🇰