oh my, this channel is getting better and better. More brutal, more honest, more comparisons. Love it!
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@nisheethrastogi3 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive absolutely. It takes confidence and skill.
@no_more_free_nicks3 жыл бұрын
But Munro is still invited by Ford, so I guess they appreciate it too.
@patr59023 жыл бұрын
@MunroLive You should consider getting an ID6 from China. Do it after the MachE but before the S Plaid. Would be interesting to see the latest updates on the MEB as it is stretched for LWB (ID6, ID8 & Buzz). Show more comparisons with MachE. Then hit us with the Plaid!
@HillslamsMirror3 жыл бұрын
I'm not seeing more comparisons. I'm seeing one competitor of Tesla getting torn a new one as visibly as possible. It happens to be the one competitor that is selling high numbers and putting out a quality overall product. ESPECIALLY for a first EV. The first Teslas? Burned to the ground.... Makes you wonder who pays for these.
@gwtill3 жыл бұрын
The color of the largest connector is the best orange!
@-JustHuman-3 жыл бұрын
True.
@kumarsuraj94503 жыл бұрын
yup
@xcvsdxvsx3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@rhamph3 жыл бұрын
The deep, vibrant orange. Not the ones that look faded. Agreed.
@Adrian_Stone3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, an Orange that’s loud & proud of its Voltage.
@max6540003 жыл бұрын
To be perfectly honest, we are actually here for the rant. Who doesn’t love seeing Sandy tear them a new one. LMAO
@no_more_free_nicks3 жыл бұрын
Rant too, but I'm curious about the engineering too.
@daniele82573 жыл бұрын
Well, for starters i'd say Ford
@mjcamp013 жыл бұрын
I'm here to learn, the rant is just the icing on the knowledge cake
@georgechoquette57353 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a Japanese car comparison. Unfortunately there are not many pure EV's from Japan.
@snowmobile743 жыл бұрын
Hell yes. Because he's right! Ford has some real innovation when it comes to some things (Ecoboost) but they really miss on a TON of the small stuff. You could have saved the company hundreds of millions of you doubled the number of head bolts on the 6.0 power stroke. They could have saved tens of millions by adding 2 more threads to the early triton engines. Their engineers have been shaving pennies at the expense of dollars.
@rick67hou3 жыл бұрын
Munro: Ok kids. Our topic of the day is screws. Engineers in charge of fasteners: we're screwed.
@jkimo11783 жыл бұрын
“I almost swore but I didn’t”. - hilarious …. Luv this guy.
@stevehockey43 жыл бұрын
Haha the next word was definitely Bull$#!*
@AirmanJH3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being first to post everyone's comment. LOL
@jkimo11783 жыл бұрын
@@stevehockey4 What I love is that there is no pretense. It’s genuine - what you see is the real Sandy.
@lapaleves3 жыл бұрын
the light brown one!
@thedmiranda103 жыл бұрын
20:12 Cory's post-rant smirk is priceless
@2nd3rd1st3 жыл бұрын
In an interview with Cory Sandy one time talked about how he did not like Cory at first but then became impressed with his work, so they both clearly have storied history and an appreciation for each others personalities
@peterpet77rp3 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody with clout is speaking up. I'm a body technician and this is a frustrating problem I have working on Fords. To take off a single part why so many different fasteners? It's not rocket science, sometimes I wonder if they are trying to irritate technicians. Thanks very much Sandy and company. Your contributions on this channel will not only make manufacturing better but also will make the technicians life less stressful
@AnalogueKid21123 жыл бұрын
It’s not that they’re trying to make your life difficult, it’s the fact that so much of what you work on was made by suppliers. If the suppliers are tooled up for certain fasteners, they’re going to keep using it. At the end of the day, the suppliers can offer a lower price using their own design rather than Ford’s particular design, including whatever fasteners Bosch/Denso/ZF/Faurecia/etc. have on hand
@RyanDiederich3 жыл бұрын
recently did a water pump on 2002 f150, thankfully all 9!!!! fastners had the same size head, however there were 3 different lengths!!!
@Mellowyellow88883 жыл бұрын
@@AnalogueKid2112 but you do realize when you are a large OEM you can dictate the terms to the suppliers and force them to change.. Doesn't matter what industry you are in.. but the big kid on the block always dictate the terms to their suppliers...
@AnalogueKid21123 жыл бұрын
@@Mellowyellow8888 Sure but what value does it provide to Ford? The suppliers probably said we can provide our turnkey module that we’ve already designed or we can redesign it to use identical fasteners which will add 5 months to the design process and $3 per unit. We can see which option Ford chose here. In the long run, Ford is likely to bring a lot of these components in house, which will be a great opportunity to reduce complexity. The Mach E was meant to be an early mover that was good enough for most people. Not an Ultium solution (haha, see what I did there)
@peterpet77rp3 жыл бұрын
@@AnalogueKid2112 Suppliers are not the only problem. Removing a bumper for insurance, will have fasteners of different sizes which require several different tools. I will be taking apart a door, which in itself have different fasteners, then suddenly I come upon a bolt that require an 11 mm socket. I've never used an 11 mm socket on anything in my entire 34 years as a body tech. Not that anything is wrong; but why?
@EnerGeezerSquirrel3 жыл бұрын
"Screws are not your friend." Nine of ten convicts agree.
@kirkjohnson93533 жыл бұрын
Oh, that's a good one Rik. You could be a writer for the upcoming mega movie- The Monroshank Redemption or the sequel We Got Rid of the Screws: The Revenge of Sandy
@davidelliott58433 жыл бұрын
There has to be a joke in here about Bolts catching fire.
@abraxastulammo99403 жыл бұрын
@@kirkjohnson9353 Is this a Screwball comedy?
@suijinnoname64123 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't it be 5 out of ten? I'll show myself out now.
@kkal11833 жыл бұрын
there is nothing more gratifying than to see someone who's at the top of their craft be so passionate about passing on that knowledge on to make a positive impact.
@MrGonzonator3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a Korean car on your show. The new Hyundai and Kia are 2nd gen electric from the ground up, and look real nice outside.. would be awesome to see them inside.
@6355743 жыл бұрын
Or a BYD
@rkan23 жыл бұрын
Yeah - I definitely want to see the Ioniq 5! AFAIK it has one of the first 48V systems on a mass production cars - if not the first?
@martinultimatevw37793 жыл бұрын
Korean yes!
@benjaminheindl10693 жыл бұрын
That'd be awesome!!
@bluetoad26683 жыл бұрын
Almost certainly very similar to Tesla, those guys buy Sandy's reports
@PiotrMys3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, this is so enjoyable - its the same principles as in coding, best code is no code, if you need 2 different routines to do a very similar thing, then you need to rethink the design. I look at this and I am thinking... what THE ACTUAL F....
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Gaijin1013 жыл бұрын
Refactoring in Ford seems nonexistent
@pjb36333 жыл бұрын
Preach it, Brother Sandy! As the good Dr. D. said, "Drive out fear!"
@Jimmy_Jones3 жыл бұрын
No such thing as repeating a method to perform the same function.
@mdubz1013 жыл бұрын
Maverick will prob have same issues then.. :( 2.0 turbo non hybrid ftw 🙌
@danoberste81463 жыл бұрын
Show me the orange colors in different lighting conditions. I'm an emergency responder who will be looking for these components in dark, rain, snow, and being illuminated by flood lights and flashing strobes of red, amber and blue. Whichever color is the easiest to distinguish under those conditions. In studio lighting, I like the aesthetic quality of the large connector (#2 from the left) 😁
@unitrader4033 жыл бұрын
as emergency responder you should not need to worry about these connections ever actually. All you have to find and cut is the the 12V first responder loop, which will disconnect the High Voltage Battery internally.
@videcomp3 жыл бұрын
When I worked for one of the big three in production engineering for wiring harnesses, one of the big issues was the color of the wiring and wiring placards. Plastic and printed colors, especially oranges, change with different artificial and natural lighting. Some oranges went very red in natural light. So we had additional indicators besides color to be sure the worker got it right. I can only imagine the trouble you guys have.
@w0ttheh3ll3 жыл бұрын
if you want to distinguish shades of pink/brown (skin), orange, red, etc. in the dark get yourself a flashlight with a "high CRI" LED. for duty light recommendations go to budgetlightforum.com or reddit.com/r/flashlight
@jamesvandamme77863 жыл бұрын
You'd think SAE would have a standard for that. Fluorescent color lights up under LED light, which has a lot of ultraviolet.
@Robbie62983 жыл бұрын
Looks like Ford built this car using a McMaster Carr catalog.
@TennisGvy3 жыл бұрын
They must have been doing some Black Friday deals
@Robbie62983 жыл бұрын
@@TennisGvy The bean counting execs up top must have had a field day. They bought one of each and told the engineers to cobble it all together into a "mustang".
@grahamstevenson17403 жыл бұрын
Exactly. And I think that's largely the problem. It's not been properly production engineered.
@Pseudoku_RL3 жыл бұрын
I think it's worth clarifying that Sandy isn't ranting about por design quality. He's ranting about design regression. The facts are in, the study was done, the money was spent, the results are clear. It's embarrassing to ignore all the hard work that was done in the past just to come up with a lazy product now
@b48045143 жыл бұрын
It appears people are just lazy and arrogant
@WillN2Go13 жыл бұрын
Ford paid for what Tesla implemented. I'm a Tesla stockholder with an old old beef against Ford, but com'on Detroit, you won World War Two for cryin' out loud. Get your stuff together!
@niarkozzy3 жыл бұрын
This is what you get when you only focused on outsourcing as cheap as possible for decades.
@franzliszt31953 жыл бұрын
Top management at Ford should all be fired. Their bad management is hurting everyone, not just them and their custormers.
@kkatlvolvo3 жыл бұрын
@@franzliszt3195 pretty ignorant comment with no facts to back anything you just posted. Their senior leaders are the best in a decade and will continue to improve on future designs. There are always trade offs on any product and for the most part the Mach E has been a well engineered product.
@user-yn5sk5ru5g3 жыл бұрын
Many different departments doing their own thing it seems.
@alphaseinor3 жыл бұрын
Silos, Silos everywhere, but not an email between
@ronibee3 жыл бұрын
I had this in the office where I worked. When I moved departments, I found that both were using a small program to make a particular calculation. Both departments had built their own version without checking to see if there was any commonality between the two areas.
@chrislangstaff3 жыл бұрын
This is rampant at large corps of all types, lots of middle/upper mgmt types looking to build their own fiefdoms and don't know or care about what their department is doing
@lsauve3 жыл бұрын
They are probably different suppliers for many of the components. It looks to me like the Mach-E is a "version zero" product - it just has to work, it doesn't have to look good. Refinement will come later. I don't think reliability will be great for a while with so many hoses and connectors.
@dr-k16673 жыл бұрын
@@chrislangstaff That is exactly what is wrong is most companies and govt and they die... slowly and painfully.
@EricP363 жыл бұрын
Love a good Sandy rant!
@dr-k16673 жыл бұрын
I am so grateful to Sandy for listening to the person who said he should do a KZbin channel. These videos are GOLD! If the videos are this good... what the heck are the reports like and why isn't every who gives a dam not buying them.
@charles_cody3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that person is Corey here.
@soul4saken3 жыл бұрын
I'm not an engineer, but I find this fascinating.
@kirkjohnson93533 жыл бұрын
Me too. It's a wonderful exercise is analysis, thinking and economy . If you applied all of these principles to a marriage you could be a happy guy.
@FIGHTTHECABLE3 жыл бұрын
You find it fastinating
@Barskor13 жыл бұрын
@@FIGHTTHECABLE Thank you for that Punishment FTC :)
@rogerstarkey53903 жыл бұрын
@@FIGHTTHECABLE You locked down that pun!
@scottthomson79533 жыл бұрын
Sandy throws alot of rocks, but each one is wrapped in paper describing the problem, a possible solution, and research to back it up.
@otm6463 жыл бұрын
As an outsider I could see how you think that. As someone who's dealing with state of the art current automotive fastener development there are some major holes in his understanding. You can tell he's speaking from personal experience that's 20 years dated at times.
@Barskor13 жыл бұрын
@@otm646 To be fastener factious and not really serious Screw you. Now on a serious note explain Sandy's alleged misunderstandings because just saying it is meaningless.
@otm6463 жыл бұрын
@@Barskor1 page through the previous videos usually I will leave a comment or two. On this video specifically I believe they have misidentified a torx plus, and they are clearly using the wrong socket for removal based on the counter taper. The torx plus standard was developed by Ford, it has been copied throughout the industry both by Tesla, Nissan and a few others. Low profile Torx plus is something that Tesla is very fond of. I'm not knocking him that hard, you can tell at one point he knew what he was doing. For general advice it's pretty solid. But he's not at a level that you would find in specialized IFI or internal fastener training geared to the design engineer or fastener production guys.
@Barskor13 жыл бұрын
@@otm646 Ah a specialist Obscura so they used the wrong fork at dinner boo hoo.
@rogerstarkey53903 жыл бұрын
@@otm646 "Clearly using the wrong socket for removal...." ? Doesn't that illustrate the problem? 2 screw types, on plain, one shouldered, with the same head type, applied to this whole unit, would seem possible? Single driver/ socket, reduced inventory for the fasteners? (Maybe not 2 types, but my point is that a little thought, maybe some conversation at the design stage could make things much easier)
@joeabad59083 жыл бұрын
I once worked in a transformer factory and Goldratt's book "The Goal" has changed the way we work.. It's a good read, applying Theory of Constraints principles both at the factory and at home.
@rodrigobejarano13493 жыл бұрын
Just watched this video, and if you compare it with the last one where Sandy was not present, the difference is clear: Sandy is passionate about it and it shows. This channel is the best, not only due to the technical stuff presented, but mainly for the way it is presented and all the real-world (production line) context presented. Great work guys !!
@stevepailet82583 жыл бұрын
during the 1970s I was in business school. Deming was my hero. Always amazed me that he had to go to Japan to do his magic. Ford and GM still have not figured it out 50 years later
@videcomp3 жыл бұрын
I was with GM 30 years ago and they were adopting Demings across the board, but it was a big ship to turn. At least in my plant we became more like a Japanese plant than a typical American one of the time. Quality went way up and scrape way down. We shrunk our parts and materials inventory from 30+ days to less than 3. I think what we are witnessing to some extent in these tear downs is regression.
@marvinjames5141 Жыл бұрын
You have given this old mechanic a hell of an education. Thank you.
@RayNLA3 жыл бұрын
This is clearly a case of “we don’t have time to design, so we will Frankenstein”
@grahamstevenson17403 жыл бұрын
Yup. Clearly time ran out for niceties.
@cartender75013 жыл бұрын
I know how this happens. I've been in so many meetings designing this stuff and there's aaaaaalways a reason. I proposed eliminating a component and our internal evaluation said no cost save, so it died. Just like Sandy says, you're not looking at the big picture - less processing, less storage, less incoming receiving, less supplier auditing, less drawings. But yet, there's always a reason....
@Chainyanker0073 жыл бұрын
And that reason is lack of common sense.
@philipcunio40893 жыл бұрын
“If common sense were so common, everybody would have it’ : Mark Twain
@lonerider53153 жыл бұрын
Being aware of common sense doesn’t mean it’s applied.
@jimave3 жыл бұрын
Or as I like to say…common sense should be called uncommon sense because not everyone does it.
@ChunkyMonkaayyy3 жыл бұрын
Statistically speaking 1/2 the population is stupider than the other half.
@deeplato56473 жыл бұрын
@@ChunkyMonkaayyy That's almost 50% !!!
@justlisten823 жыл бұрын
Norms unnatural, humanity is inhumane, common sense is uncommon so whos really to blame?
@StefanSobkowiak3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Our goal is to have one screw type on the farm, just varying lengths.
@jorgesilva63753 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Portugal!! Big fan of your videos, of Mr. Munro and team !! Mr. Munro, please rant as much as you like!! That's one of the reasons I watch you on KZbin. Thank you and good work!! 👍👍
@jooptablet17273 жыл бұрын
Ford engineer: hey boss, which fastener do you want us to use? Ford team manager: yes
@rasmusvendelboe3 жыл бұрын
As for someone working in engineering and quality assurance this is so spot on. Thank you!!
@scott89193 жыл бұрын
I vote second from the left (large). If you're going to go orange, go loud.
@gasser50013 жыл бұрын
I used to be a Ford parts guy... I can confirm our connector assortment was over......... at least 80. And that's a very VERY bearish estimate. It was probably closer to 200. Not, even, lying.
@kirkjohnson93533 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they hired a guy to co ordinate all the fasteners in the vehicle with the goal of having the least number of fasteners and the least number of types - accross all platforms. It's not even rocket science.
@gasser50013 жыл бұрын
@@kirkjohnson9353 it’s also how they don’t make money, lmao. Seriously… 40-60 bucks for the plastic lever that folds a mustang seat forward….
@kirkjohnson93533 жыл бұрын
@@gasser5001 It must have been a nightmare at times to find things.
@woodendoorgarage3 жыл бұрын
As someone that works on vintage cars (also known as rusty junk) as a hobby I can confirm that "screws are not your friend". Especially bolts smaller then M8 (~5/16) with even light rust on them are your enemy for sure! Bolt heads just twist right off of them.
@ManKetnas3 жыл бұрын
damn I like the way Sandy talks, its so understandable for me as a non-native speaker !!
@nowanilfideme23 жыл бұрын
"Who's the guy who just gave us 27 grand?" I'm laughing my cheeks off here. Nearly-uncensored Sandy is the best.
@mwjoe663 жыл бұрын
Sandy's rant was great, grounded in real life examples, and common sense. It helped me learn more about manufacturing.
@ccengineer59023 жыл бұрын
Looks like Ford outsourced every component. It would explain all the different fasteners.
@NTNLabs3 жыл бұрын
Is the product still a Ford? Parts are OEMs and engineering is against the Ford engineering books. Exterior design is Ford I guess. Is it still Ford? Or just "assembled by Ford"...
@jamesvandamme77863 жыл бұрын
@@NTNLabs Henry bought iron ore and sold cars.
@NTNLabs3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesvandamme7786 Yep, that's hardcore carmaking. You put iron in one part of the factory and a car comes from the other side...
@jamesvandamme77863 жыл бұрын
@@NTNLabs Nowadays he'd have to buy sand, too. Maybe after this chip shortage they'll consider it. But silicon foundries aren't cheap. SiC is worse.
@Pleasefeedmepoop3 жыл бұрын
I have Demings book on my desk in front of me at work. Is there a chance you could do a special episode where Sandy could talk about his experiences with Deming, for us guys that never got to meet him?
@xiaowang37153 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. I’m working as the product manager for these connectors.Your video and opinions are very suggestive to improve our products. Looking forward your updates.😄
@1Jbeats2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even build the damn thing and I feel like Sandy just blew me up. Love seeing his passion and experience come through like this.
@m3Tesla3 жыл бұрын
Love your rants Sandy! Don't ever stop
@sailingsolar23713 жыл бұрын
Sandy's message is "Screws will Screw you."
@aitorbleda82673 жыл бұрын
But they allow repair. Plastic fasteners do not last through thermal cycles.
@teslaowner90203 жыл бұрын
“If you want poor quality add more screws” so Ford adds more
@JohnPMiller3 жыл бұрын
At least they're all threaded in the same direction. Oops! I hope I didn't give Ford an idea for their next generation of threaded fasteners.
@UnipornFrumm3 жыл бұрын
The dealers will be happy to make money from labour when the cars need repairs
@no_more_free_nicks3 жыл бұрын
@@UnipornFrumm That is exactly what I thought about, you make a perfect car, you go broke.
@antoinepageau83363 жыл бұрын
@@JohnPMiller OMG too funny!
@mitchellbarnow17093 жыл бұрын
Does every Ford franchised dealer that is EV trained have to buy all of these specialized tools in order to take these things apart or will they just replace the entire component? I think that I know the answer, replace the entire component, which is how Tesla does it!
@patrickradcliffe38373 жыл бұрын
8:50 My experiences tell me the reason for the high fastener count is environmental protection. Plastic covers unless well fastened make horrible seals over time. Plastic deformation will occur were the stress is highest which are fastener locations especially when have a through connecter applying torque perpendicular to the fastener from the weight of cabling on the exterior. My guess is Ford is subcontracting out the production of the larger electrical components and each subcontractor is using their perfered fastener unlike Tesla that does pretty much in house.
@gregfredericks52013 жыл бұрын
Hands down one of the best videos about how things should be done. Great job guys. Lets bring back those things that make sense. Too many fasteners = too many problems.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@julianriise56183 жыл бұрын
Munro should collaborate with Engineering Schools, I'm not a student but the content is quality
@h3ku19943 жыл бұрын
I think what he's doing in yt earn much more than col
@kg4lod3 жыл бұрын
Everything he's saying is already taught in engineering schools... it's not like "use less parts" is a genius idea. Munro's contribution is the tear-down and reveal of how far from first principles modern OEM's have strayed.
@andyh1833 жыл бұрын
Every person considering buying a Mach-E really should watch this teardown series. Excellent content.
@Dave-in-France3 жыл бұрын
Great great video from a man whose opinion is based on experience. A lifetime in manufacturing and a common sense approach to problem solving. You called it a rant - I call it passion ! Loved it !
@b48045143 жыл бұрын
What I love about this is that Sandy cares about this stuff. The fact that Ford was told at least 20 years ago and has ignored its own studies would make me swear as well. Keep up the good work. Put it to these guys that make dumb decisions and cost the companies money.
@mtumasz3 жыл бұрын
Essential lecture at Munro University of Technology ❤️
@danchatka86133 жыл бұрын
Deming and TQM/CQI: America's only hope. Thank you Sandy for keeping this knowledge alive. At some point, people will start listening and benefiting.
@robertwinterstein66902 жыл бұрын
Hello, I just wanted to say thank you! I show your videos to my intro automotive students and it gives them a heads up as to the inner workings of electric vehicles and what is on the horizon for the automotive industry. Thanks again for all of your hard work, this has to be the best channel to learn about EV's!
@dewiz95963 жыл бұрын
Love the rants! Especially because they are so full of common sense!
@strykerace3 жыл бұрын
really good episode.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@cascade56823 жыл бұрын
19:40 "I almost swore" - lol
@brendan15163 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of working on my first car ('88 Mustang). Lots of different sizes, lots of different connectors, basically a new tool for every section of the car. 23 years later, NOTHING HAS CHANGED. lol. Glad I drive a Telsa.
@5225493 жыл бұрын
This has got to be my favourite video after the octovalve. It just blows my mind that Ford can proudly put out engineering like this.
@Chainyanker0073 жыл бұрын
Watch this one on the Mach-e thermal system: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2LOeaaaaLSWrsU kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKGVnKeAa5ZqasU
@RobertWHurst3 жыл бұрын
I found myself instinctively screaming "why?" at the screen while watching this. This is a strange type of institutional self inflicted sadism
@gregculverwell3 жыл бұрын
I thought that the silo mentality was long dead, but it seems it is alive & well @ Ford.
@waynelevett36323 жыл бұрын
Hi Sandy, I have fixed cross threaded aluminum with Devcon A. Oil the bolt and screw it in till it's hard, then remove bolt and dress surface. That's been a big part of my mechanical life with restoring old cars, especially jaguars and Rolls-Royce I specialised in for 30 years. Rolls is all aluminum from sump to block to rocker covers. Including T400 trans and an aluminum differential casing. Yes I've done my time with poor threads and crossed or rusty bolt in aluminum.
@paulcummings553 жыл бұрын
Never thought I would enjoy a talk about screws;-) And yet, how extraordinary that any modern company would have so much trouble with something this simple in their manufacturing design! Much less everything else... Thanks for the talk, guys!
@shazam62743 жыл бұрын
Ford did a magnificent job in reducing the number and type variants of fasteners.... compared to hoses!
@Chainyanker0073 жыл бұрын
Before anyone considers getting a Mach-e watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2LOeaaaaLSWrsU kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKGVnKeAa5ZqasU
I am very thankful for the videos that have been posted on this channel lately. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I have learned a lot, how to present and give an overview on complicated systems that, in essence, are not so complex if you know how to make them digestible. One spoonful at the time ;)
@akinpriestley39013 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Wow!!! Wow!!!! That was a MASTER CLASS. Thank you for the historical perspective and the call to excellence in the EV sector.
@kuldeuec3 жыл бұрын
As they say, “Orange is the new Black”, “50 shades of Orange”
@Stefan_Dahn3 жыл бұрын
And SOME guys get exited from that. 😉
@FIGHTTHECABLE3 жыл бұрын
Whip those cables around me
@5225493 жыл бұрын
This makes me happt
@rishi-m3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, just asking cuz you seem to fit the description, you the fella who gave Munro 27k? Edit: Checked out the Facebook link in your About section, never mind my question!
@Clark-Mills3 жыл бұрын
Sandy Munro has surpassed the idols he worships, and with a much larger and appreciative audience. Thank you so much Cory & Co., you are making a difference.
@vitavacek34833 жыл бұрын
Our customers have a wide variety of colors on the outside and also inside, we are especially proud of the battery pack connector options :)
@alanmcintyre92963 жыл бұрын
As an older person who has seen first-hand the mechanics of "how big companies do things and are highly resistant to actual improvement," I whole-heartedly approve of Sandy's rants. :)
@nelsonmacy10103 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention Innovators Dilemma book which was on the table too.
@kirkjohnson93533 жыл бұрын
I like that Sandy is working out a book club now too.
@PhilippZ3 жыл бұрын
I think Ford doesn’t care because all these components are manufactured by different suppliers. So Ford doesn’t need separate tools to fasten different fasteners. Ford just installs these finished components, so for the mounting they need common fasteners. Tesla is vertically integrated so needs to have common fasteners for everything.
@FuzTheCat3 жыл бұрын
This makes sense. The sockets come attached to the modules from the component suppliers and simply need to be mounted by Ford. If a socket needs to be fixed then the whole module simply gets replaced which is also how Tesla seems to work in some of their repair shops. I think an advantage that Tesla has here is that they save 10% by vertically integrating and more by integrated designs. However they lose a little back because of their lower volumes compared with commodity parts. But the ongoing advantage that Tesla has from their vertical integration is the freedom to constantly innovate as they have full control over the entire process. This is the real advantage.
@mechpatt3 жыл бұрын
To have such passion about screws, tools, and problems, you have definitely been in the trenches and fighting hard. Seems like a funny thing to get worked up about - but this is the face of mechanical engineering! Kudos.
@rhbob3 жыл бұрын
Sandy, thank you for your passion!
@davidneuzil93563 жыл бұрын
Geeze, Sandy sounds like he is pretty darn frustrated with OEM's continuing disregard for improvement. Hopefully they will listen to him. Heads should roll at OEM's
@KBeKind3 жыл бұрын
2nd orange from the left is my favorite (biggest connector)
@danapeck53823 жыл бұрын
"Out of the Crisis", best how-to book ever. I got to see Prof. Deming start a day-long presentation to a roomful of high-level execs, circa 1972, with the statement, "You are the problem." Bet none of them had heard anything that directly critical in years. Room temp dropped noticeably.
@bdtang3 жыл бұрын
Love the honesty and passion that Sandy, Cory and Ben delivers. No sugar coating the bad and giving credit where credit is due. Keep up the great work.
@johnmolloy48783 жыл бұрын
Maybe a consequence of rushing a product to market while using too many outside suppliers?
@tribalypredisposed3 жыл бұрын
They got the need for speed right, they just were not up to the task really. Tesla is fast and efficient, Ford is rushed and sloppy. I also bet that Tesla put in double or more the engineering time on the Model 3 compared to the Mach-e. Largely accomplished by Tesla engineers working much longer hours than Ford engineers work.
@patr59023 жыл бұрын
Work smarter not harder. At Tesla it’s work smarter and harder. Not only do they put in long hours it is don’t in a highly integrated, efficient & flexible structure.
@patr59023 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite stories is one Elon told about why there are battery modules on the 3/Y. Turns out the only real reason was there module department. That department has been dissolved and all staff reassigned. Some helped develop the integrated cell structure system that is coming online later his year.
@HillslamsMirror3 жыл бұрын
@@tribalypredisposed But in reality Tesla is neither fast nor efficient. Fast? They are almost 20 years into existence. It took them many many years to get a good product to market. The first Teslas burnt to the ground under customers more than once! And as for Efficient - as of July 2021 they are still losing ~$900 per car sold. The only reason Tesla corporate is in the black is due to credits trading and crypto speculative investing. They need to make money selling the thing they make. Ford will make money on the MachE well before Tesla nets a profit per unit. (the model Y is a good forward progression on that front though)
@tribalypredisposed3 жыл бұрын
@@HillslamsMirror lol. Nothing you wrote is true. Tesla just reported Q2 profits of $1.3 billion with a company wide 11% profit margin and a 28% profit margin on vehicles. You are really wasting your time with these super blatant lies.
@edvaldoneto14143 жыл бұрын
Learning a lot with you guys! Great content!
@billhanna21483 жыл бұрын
Sandy DO NOT HOLD BACK !!! This is why we are here 💪💪 It NEEDS TO BE SAID 👏👏👏
@jpcabala3 жыл бұрын
MY MAN! My Ops Management instructor was so thrilled when I told her I had read multiple Deming books, including Out Of The Crisis. (She was not so thrilled when I opted to go into Transportation instead of manufacturing)
@MrGonzonator3 жыл бұрын
Working in silos vs working in teams.
@MetroidChild3 жыл бұрын
Getting paid by the hour vs getting paid by the "bolt".
@mebran11933 жыл бұрын
Never been so excited by screws
@techenthusiast45423 жыл бұрын
Coral Orange followed by Mahogany Orange followed by Rusty Orange are the best natural orange colors to my eyes. We love your rants Sandy! Otherwise, everyone would be bored with just technical details. LOL!
@ferfromla3 жыл бұрын
I too am a fan of Dr. Deming! I love the "less is more" philosophy and Dr. Deming was always looking to eliminate the number of steps in every process. Hopefully, Ford and the other US manufacturers are tuning in and listening. I also like Sandy's comparative approach. He demonstrates and explains why Tesla's approach to design and assembly are better than the competition. This way of looking at things is healthy as it subscribes to what Dr. Deming always exhorted -- continual improvement. In fact, I think that is also a good life philosophy.
@s.m.70183 жыл бұрын
I get these when I wake up in the morning. It starts my day with a dose of common sense. Elon Musk says something similar with “the best part is no part”.
@TheJoeSwanon3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing watching these videos
@johnmolloy48783 жыл бұрын
... As disturbing as this is, I worry more about hose-a-palooza...
@patr59023 жыл бұрын
The only fix for that mess is a complete redesign for the battery pack and BMS. Completely clean sheet design. With the 4 largest automotive battery makers gearing up for 4680 production might as well build the new packs around that cell structure. Shift all the pouch cells to F150 Lightning. And the soon to come BEV Navigator & Expedition.
@patr59023 жыл бұрын
Of course that assumes they didn’t make as big mess of the F150.
@johnmolloy48783 жыл бұрын
@@patr5902 Hopefully as Ford iterates, they will learn. Lightning is not being produced yet, so hopefully it will have a less inelegant battery approach. Would love to see the Big 2 get serious about vertical integration like Tesla.
@Chainyanker0073 жыл бұрын
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@rpkamins3 жыл бұрын
You are so inspirational to the aspiring engineer! Thank you so much for doing what you're doing.
@Caedin83 жыл бұрын
If they re-ran that study on screws in 2020 they'd find 95% of mechanical failures are due to broken plastic interconnects. The industry has replaced screws with plastic interconnects, but because the plastic parts weren't in cars in the 70s like they are now, they didn't show up in the original study. All of my non-standard maintenance automotive issues in my life have been due to plastic clips breaking off, which Sandy is such a fan of. I've never seen a screw or bolt break.
@timmylassie67633 жыл бұрын
flight test orange on the right...
@davendrasukha3203 жыл бұрын
The "Input of high voltage DC supercharging" is my favorite orange so far
@TheJoeSwanon3 жыл бұрын
I was going to go with the Coast Guard orange
@fred993a3 жыл бұрын
Sandy gives the greatest education I have ever seen.
@williewalker80483 жыл бұрын
Sandy can rant for an hour and still captivate me! Love it guys. KISS, the age-old acronym that still matters!
@abraxastulammo99403 жыл бұрын
I never got if you have to keep it stupid or if you call someone stupid with this phrase. 🤔
@kirkjohnson93533 жыл бұрын
They had to cut out the part where Sandy was banging a shoe on a table while ranting about screws.
@alaricgoldkuhl1553 жыл бұрын
So basically the upshot of that glorious Sandy rant is "Ford is screwed".
@nonyanks25103 жыл бұрын
You actually said that on a monday, this is gonna be a long week!
@Stefan_Dahn3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣👍
@twany4423 жыл бұрын
Ford's not screwed.
@alaricgoldkuhl1553 жыл бұрын
@Alex McAuliff I wish dude. It's been nearly 6 years since I was screwed. At this stage I'd be happy just to be nailed.
@eliyasne96953 жыл бұрын
More specifically, Screws screwed ford.
@ggosbenton3 жыл бұрын
I am not in automotive or even an engineer.. but I deeply appreciate the quality of this and the lessons Sandy et.al are dishing out.... shocking to me that you are doing this for free! Makes me assume that the stuff people pay you for must be amazing!! Thanks!
@toninocars3 жыл бұрын
Watching your Videos you can understand why many doesn’t like Ford, not the drivers and owners but the mechanics who work on these cars 🚙😂👌
@ZeroInDaHouse3 жыл бұрын
Cory looks like that innocent kid next to his ranting dad that's kind of embarrassed at what is happening.
@DereckWonnacott3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know what Sandy thinks about lock washers & nordloc washers... Heck a whole video on types lock washers would be neat.
@chrisheath26373 жыл бұрын
Lets geek out on non-locking lock-washers ! Its a thing of mine, too.
@backpropagated3 жыл бұрын
I love Sandy. I really enjoy learning the minor details of mechanical engineering and engineering management from these videos. I can't help but notice, though, he's built himself the perfect life for a cranky old man lol. Massive companies pay him millions of dollars to be the 'old man shouts at cloud' meme.
@23billd3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sandy, I thoroughly enjoyed your rant. In the mid-80s I was the Manufacturing Engineering Manager at Hewlett-Packard and I used to give about the same speech. Quality is assured by elegant design. I see that at Tesla, not Ford.