Mach-E Suspension & High Voltage Wiring Compared to Tesla Model Y

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3 жыл бұрын

Sandy brings in a couple of new characters to discuss suspension and HV wiring on the Mach-E.
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@proposedworld1646
@proposedworld1646 3 жыл бұрын
Cory is a great co-star! Very clear in his presentation and great eye for detail. He definitely adds a lot.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@AWDRIFTO
@AWDRIFTO 3 жыл бұрын
Couldnt agree more.
@robfisher3790
@robfisher3790 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@erik.dahlberg
@erik.dahlberg 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@psdaengr911
@psdaengr911 3 жыл бұрын
That Sandy has recognized the kinds of talent his organization needs to do a good job and has found people with those talents says as much about his analytic and design skills as the tech details he presents. Since he keeps calling himself "old", I wonder who he's developing to replace him.
@ElDJReturn
@ElDJReturn 3 жыл бұрын
I can definitely see why Corey is President! I love the contrast in thoughts between Sandy and Corey, and the respect.
@erik.dahlberg
@erik.dahlberg 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! This video gets my "Wholesome Award" of the week. Munro & Co seems to be a great place to work if you are serious about engineering AND business. (You just need to work a bit with Representation....;-) )
@grantos1361
@grantos1361 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone is a weapon at this place!
@xcvsdxvsx
@xcvsdxvsx 3 жыл бұрын
This is what capitalism looks like when its functioning properly.
@texastriguy
@texastriguy 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed - these guys know their stuff, work well together, and are clearly an excellent team.
@stevencito1000
@stevencito1000 3 жыл бұрын
I love this: 10% Technology; 90% psychology; thank you for showing this guys!
@jesperjfl
@jesperjfl 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that was a spot on comment.
@tpad6
@tpad6 3 жыл бұрын
12:12 this is where his good comment starts
@psdaengr911
@psdaengr911 3 жыл бұрын
It is why smart design teams always have new engineers who question everything being constantly introduced. In a very large company, one way to create high value employees is to copy what doctors have done, rotate new people through departments s they can not only see the whole product picture, but experience different ways of thinking. My most valuable insight as a systems engineer came from a book on organizational management.
@jpcabala
@jpcabala 3 жыл бұрын
@@psdaengr911 When I was managing a group, I set a cap of two years on someone handling a set of responsibilities. In my industry, two years is enough to see probably 99% of the situations you will run into, (I have 4 decades in) and see how seasonality impacts each desk. I dictated the moves, because I found that it actually helped if I said, "This move is my call, it is training for you, anything goes wrong it's on me, so don't sweat it", and found that folks would actually endeavor to find and fix their own mistakes early, even though I made it clear I would take the hit. Five years after I left the company, they closed that operation, and my staff-members were able to show more rounded-out skills on their resumes. If they did not retire, they went to work for competitors or clients.
@a_r_u_n7595
@a_r_u_n7595 3 жыл бұрын
An engineering student who really wants to be a engineer should watch this channel
@TheBeingReal
@TheBeingReal 3 жыл бұрын
Engineers today are much better at this stuff than days gone by. Never underestimate the power of the bean counters though to dictate decisions.
@tobybeat
@tobybeat 3 жыл бұрын
Daaaamn! This was really telling about how the design and engineering teams work at each company
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 3 жыл бұрын
FORD engineer don't communicate, share ideas for Commonality, and to save weight.
@Miata822
@Miata822 3 жыл бұрын
It is likely that the heavier cable connector was chosen on the front motor high voltage cable because it is in the crush zone. The upper connector could be crushed against the firewall, especially if centerpunching a pole. The front battery connector is more exposed to being hit by road debris or bits that come lose in a high energy crash. For an example of the second case see the latest video on the Rich Rebuilds channel.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 3 жыл бұрын
@@Miata822 - the BEST part, is no part at all.
@dr-k1667
@dr-k1667 3 жыл бұрын
It shows how their corporate structure is killing them as well. Imagine not putting forth a better idea because it would stop you from getting promoted... yet at Tesla if you don't innovate you are out the door! Who do you think will be the leader in anything if that's your working environment. It's painfully obvious that we have good engineers but too much shallow management and accountant gumming up the works at the legacy companies.
@Miata822
@Miata822 3 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 Like you, I also enjoy walking. But if I'm going to drive an electric car there is no getting around having a wire between the battery and the motor. Might as well make it a safe wire.
@aisac21
@aisac21 3 жыл бұрын
Who else understands less than 15% of what they re talking about, but still enjoys their insights? 😂
@paulaxford6754
@paulaxford6754 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't have come up with a better summary than that!
@davidmorse6290
@davidmorse6290 3 жыл бұрын
The suspension-coupling bit flummoxed me; but other than it was clear. Hard for people with so much knowledge to explain things at a basic level.
@bradcoon5226
@bradcoon5226 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, it helps me to go out to my garage and look at what is on my own car. Sandy & Friends do a great job showing the parts they are discussing, but it really helps me to touch and poke at real objects to supplement what I learn here. But that aside, anything mass produced well just blows my mind.
@michaelsmithers4900
@michaelsmithers4900 3 жыл бұрын
I like this new guy he’s a natural and brought a lot to the conversation a great compliment to Sandy!
@tombrenemanMt
@tombrenemanMt 3 жыл бұрын
Another educational video showing what innovation is all about, learning with Sandy is fun.
@Global_Optimization
@Global_Optimization 3 жыл бұрын
This video has more useful info than some entire courses I took in engineering school lol
@TimKennedy1
@TimKennedy1 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you have Corey and more episodes he is really good at explaining the nitty gritty differences between the Tesla and Ford I find that very enjoyable
@Miata822
@Miata822 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. He speaks clearly with obvious knowledge of the subject.
@Chainyanker007
@Chainyanker007 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable and informative.
@charlieg8018
@charlieg8018 3 жыл бұрын
I could watch this all day! (Wife rolls her eyes) Even WeberAuto mentioned Munro live as he disassembled the Tesla Model 3/Y electric motors.
@NTNLabs
@NTNLabs 3 жыл бұрын
Cory is a natural!
@jakeh8366
@jakeh8366 3 жыл бұрын
The guide at 9:27 is there because of an interlock pin on the back of the cover. Cover gets removed, interlock opens to disable HV. The guide pin keeps you from pulling the cover off without being straight to avoid damaging the pins.
@extendedepicmusic5017
@extendedepicmusic5017 3 жыл бұрын
All of those cooling hoses on the front induction motor looks like a mess
@Miata822
@Miata822 3 жыл бұрын
The front motor is PM.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 3 жыл бұрын
Massive leaks coming to the Mach-e.
@Miata822
@Miata822 3 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 EV cooling systems have almost no pressure in them, just what the circulating pumps generate. Coolant in EVs never gets as hot as the water heater in your home. Look at the hoses under your washing machine for rubber hoses that are unlikely to leak for the decades long potential life of the machine.
@-rugged-
@-rugged- 3 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 About leaks and how they are fixed, you might want to watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIe2qGaBiMqpe8U
@airheart1
@airheart1 3 жыл бұрын
@Alfred Wedmore please don't try to compare a jet engine to ICE, much less a Electric motor designed 'engine bay'. We're talking worlds apart on many aspects. And most jet engines you've seen in any helicopter were designed back in 60's or 70's.. lets not pretend they couldn't do with a bit of innovation too. Maintenance is less of a concern when you engineer the shit to not need constant maintenance in the first place. Helicopters is one thing.. they experience massive vibration stresses constantly.. way more then any car will ever see. Just toss this comparison out the window. It has no real useful merit
@TechedOff
@TechedOff 3 жыл бұрын
"These connectors suck" *connector falls down* Love Sandy being blunt and honest there. Hope the OEMs are listening!
@kolinreichstein3399
@kolinreichstein3399 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously he's never had to work on a vehicle driven everyday that gets dirt/debris hammared against these connectors because if he did he would know that those "BOSCH" type connectors are trash and break on the technician end. Hope they stick with the bolt up design from a repair standpoint for longevity and fastener superiority! Perfect example on how engineers only design vehicles but never work on they
@Chainyanker007
@Chainyanker007 2 жыл бұрын
@@kolinreichstein3399 - Dirt and debris on those connectors? I’m guessing not anywhere near as much as on an ICE engine.
@thdjjfsfh
@thdjjfsfh 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like we're in an engineering review. Very nice.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@philorgneopolotin8762
@philorgneopolotin8762 3 жыл бұрын
Something that Ford should’ve had a few times before getting to this point
@ChitFromChinola
@ChitFromChinola 3 жыл бұрын
Just a few Munro engineers hanging out in the shop geeking out on engineering stuff . . . love it!!
@Mathingon
@Mathingon 3 жыл бұрын
Love these breakdowns and analysis of the engineering and why design choices may have been made. Keep up the great content Sandy and team!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@patrikwihlke4170
@patrikwihlke4170 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Cory can barely contain himself with all the things he wants to share! I recognize that passion! And with regards to Sandy,... boss as always! Great team!
@Adamas97
@Adamas97 3 жыл бұрын
It is funny when you get to the end of the video and realize 18 minutes have gone by yet it only feels like maybe 8. Great videos as always!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@tpad6
@tpad6 3 жыл бұрын
Cory is such a great explainer.
@apainlessone
@apainlessone 3 жыл бұрын
I just drove back home on Hwy 5 from Orange County to S.F. Bay Area and counted 50 car carriers headed Southbound. Each one had 9 or 10 Tesla’s on it. I drove by the dealership near home and there were more than 100 cars in the lot. None were available to look at because they were already sold and waiting for the owners to come in and pick them up that day. They had just received their first Model S Plaid and it was also being picked up. They said Tesla had sold out every car they had last quarter.
@bluetoad2668
@bluetoad2668 3 жыл бұрын
My real life experiences with Tesla, both owning, driving, interacting with the service personnel and seeing cars driving about is the same as you describe in that it flies in the face of the FUD that you see around. That's why I like these videos, you get the straight dope. And I don't just mean everything is positive about Tesla, they aren't super heroes - but they deserve some way better press than they get. I'm in Europe btw.
@HillslamsMirror
@HillslamsMirror 3 жыл бұрын
Now Tesla needs to get to a point where they're actually making money on every car they sell. Not just some of the models at some of specs. All of them. When they're still losing $900+ per car sold (as of July '21) they need to do hijinks like credits trading and dogecoin dabbling to turn revenue. They NEED to sell their cars for revenue so that they can continue to exist and we all benefit. The long game here.
@DanWS100
@DanWS100 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Drove south on I-5 about 2 weeks ago and virtually all the car carriers headed south were loaded with Teslas. Must have been from Fremont. On the way back all carriers heading north were loaded with mixed models and makes and a lot of used cars.
@ghostindamachine
@ghostindamachine 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of knowledge of this team is something else. Also, love the way they communicate. Everyone at their own pace. Each giving room to the others to think and speak there mind. No egoism, no each protecting their separate island. Everything is just solid skills, team play and real mutual respect.
@kirgan1000
@kirgan1000 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the co-host? can helpe Munro with metric conversion, widout Munro "louse face" He take in the information and continue, now then he know what length they speak about.
@Chainyanker007
@Chainyanker007 2 жыл бұрын
They just tell it like it is, great.
@ruftime
@ruftime 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys! As a recently retired German auto repair shop owner, here in SoCal, love these engineering dives. Tesla FTW❤️
@rdyer8764
@rdyer8764 3 жыл бұрын
One of, if not your very best episode! Cory(sp?) is one of your best presenters so far. Straight to the point w/o a ton of useless info. Very succinct. I hope he contributes to more videos!
@hfidek8286
@hfidek8286 3 жыл бұрын
engineers at my job can't even decide between metric or standard screws.
@bluetoad2668
@bluetoad2668 3 жыл бұрын
So 'metric' is not standard?
@Chainyanker007
@Chainyanker007 2 жыл бұрын
Do you work for Ford? Lol.
@Appalling68
@Appalling68 3 жыл бұрын
This sort of analysis is absolutely fascinating. Just wow.
@psdaengr911
@psdaengr911 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching analysis through deconstruction because it's so simple and straightforward compared to designing from "scratch", and in many ways easier compared to figuring out how to transition to a new system to produce a new design. Automotive engineers have don't need to replace drive trains of vehicles as they drive down the road, and many have no experience in manufacturing or management. Sandy isn't an automotive engineer, he's closer to a classically trained general engineer.
@brandoYT
@brandoYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@psdaengr911 Sandy started as a tool & die maker, later ar Ford WORKED, got TRAINING, got promoted up to executive home office position, headed up design of Ford en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Vulcan_engine (installed first time robots at Ford, since leaving Ford he has consulted/trained for Ford. He also worked on the 787 and nuke subs for both US & UK.
@Chainyanker007
@Chainyanker007 2 жыл бұрын
Tends to make one lean toward Tesla.
@Appalling68
@Appalling68 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chainyanker007 Wrong.
@AmnesiaPhotography
@AmnesiaPhotography 3 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting! Cory, loved your commentary. A lot of these issues shows the difference between design passion and "my job" when going above and beyond.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Gaijin101
@Gaijin101 3 жыл бұрын
Great info from the guys. Awesome! Cory really likes that optimized cable :)
@aussie2uGA
@aussie2uGA 3 жыл бұрын
Cory is clean cut, articulate, and sharp as a tack. This is how engineers used to be.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aussie2u!
@profpigeon5441
@profpigeon5441 3 жыл бұрын
def , lets get more Cory! He's amazing at this
@mhfs61
@mhfs61 3 жыл бұрын
This should be done with every product. Once manufacturers know that they are being looked at, they might come up with better solutions.
@RandyRandersonthefamous
@RandyRandersonthefamous 3 жыл бұрын
This is more informative than anything in school
@TheBeingReal
@TheBeingReal 3 жыл бұрын
In general, I would agree. But as an engineer I’m well aware you’d never get anything to market seeking perfection in design. 😆
@mhfs61
@mhfs61 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBeingReal True, if getting to market is the main object or even the only objective.
@philorgneopolotin8762
@philorgneopolotin8762 3 жыл бұрын
TheBeingReal as another engineer, I would respect with the design being good, but the execution being faulty. A good design means you had foresight but a poor execution means you had unexpected issues along the way. But that is not what happened here. The problem is it’s the polar opposite. Their design is horribly lacking yet they’ve put just enough effort in that the mach e seems to run. For now. The real test is 5-10 years down the road when all these added parts and unnecessary connections start failing in spades. That’ll be the real test.
@TheBeingReal
@TheBeingReal 3 жыл бұрын
@@mhfs61 Getting to market is a must.
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t recall For suggesting the Mach-E was going to use VW’s MEB Platform. I recall Ford saying that they use the MEB platform for OTHER vehicles, not the Mach-E. It’s the Ford Stromer that’s to be the first MEB-based Ford, I believe. Munro and his suspension expert are incorrect to suggest Ford ever said the Mach-E would be MEB-based, I think. Otherwise a really good video.
@iedzerkvasu2063
@iedzerkvasu2063 3 жыл бұрын
This was a very good episode. I hope Cory will join Sandy more often, he sounds like a smart guy.
@samueljackson856
@samueljackson856 3 жыл бұрын
Suspension guy: "maybe we'll pop up a picture of what that looks like" Other guy: "yeah... yeah......." Me: *still waiting for picture to pop up* 🤣👍
@boostav
@boostav 3 жыл бұрын
There was never meant to be any commonality with VW's MEB platform for the Mach-E, that partnership is for a future Ford product that they will manufacture in Europe that sits on the MEB platform. Why they couldn't use the Mach-E's platform they had already designed is another question, I can only guess it's more expensive to manufacture?
@marketingwizdom
@marketingwizdom 3 жыл бұрын
Correct. I was about to make the same point but you got there first.
@MrDarrylR
@MrDarrylR 3 жыл бұрын
The Mach-E is on the large side for Euro buyers. 70% of units there are city cars, superminis, and compacts (segments A-C). Mach-E seems to be small D segment. For the European market Ford needs a segment-B electric vehicle, to replace its Fiesta/Ka+/B-Max models. It makes sense to share a platform with the electric successor to the VW Polo/Audi A/SEAT Ibiza/Škoda Fabia. That still leaves Ford on its own to create a segment C electric successor to the Ford Focus, which would directly compete with VW's ID.3.
@sageseo
@sageseo 3 жыл бұрын
Have Corey on more! Awesome breakdown of the completely different approach of each Teams' Engineers.
@RobertVargaCG
@RobertVargaCG 3 жыл бұрын
Munro, you've built something special with this company. Your team is fantastic. Every employee on the camera so far was awesome. Congratulations, you are my role model.
@LifeasArt_Tech
@LifeasArt_Tech 3 жыл бұрын
Very enlightening! My experiences with both vehicles has been superficial (consumer level)… but this is in-depth! Tesla haters talk about panel gaps and not much else. This kind of objective analysis with side-by-side comparisons should be more widely publicized!
@greggmcclelland8430
@greggmcclelland8430 3 жыл бұрын
The wiring is traditionally ignored and told to connect the dots. At Tesla, the electrical wiring is a core technology. The wiring team can dictate component changes to so save overall system cost.
@ScrewThisGlueThat
@ScrewThisGlueThat 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the round table format of this video. It was like we weren’t in the room. Just engineers talking about the design and what could/should be changed. I would really love to see more like these.
@JC-jv3qq
@JC-jv3qq 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing difference between old manufacturers and Tesla
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 3 жыл бұрын
Nope
@timboatfield
@timboatfield 3 жыл бұрын
I think we need a new word for what Tesla does.
@royphillips7644
@royphillips7644 3 жыл бұрын
@@timboatfield Innovation
@timboatfield
@timboatfield 3 жыл бұрын
@@royphillips7644 Thats only a part of it
@royphillips7644
@royphillips7644 3 жыл бұрын
@@timboatfield Innovation covers all. Production, efficiency, technology and physics.
@davidwilkie9551
@davidwilkie9551 3 жыл бұрын
Munro's Engineering Design Philosophy. Great Value.
@lachywocky
@lachywocky 3 жыл бұрын
More Corey!
@randallpatkin9630
@randallpatkin9630 3 жыл бұрын
Best combination having Corey join Sandy in videos. Very clear and gives succinct compare and contrast opinions.
@aaronbounds1336
@aaronbounds1336 3 жыл бұрын
6:10 says it all...Tesla is so proud of their engineering, they branded it. A mircocosim of the Tesla vs. the world dynamic...and Tesla nailed it!
@Stuntman707
@Stuntman707 3 жыл бұрын
It really stands out when you can see two engineers designed the same thing separately. With HV cables being the most expensive wiring I guess you want them as short as possible. Also having a quick release without having to poke a screwdriver around is probably a good idea. Less time having to touch HV connectors and a clean snap in/out connection.
@louspinelli1745
@louspinelli1745 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to you and your entire team for just diving right in and exposing the raw truth without all of the sugar coating and corporate crap, just pure raw honesty, the way it should be! Thanks.
@RogerWlLCO
@RogerWlLCO 3 жыл бұрын
This video is AMAZING. The cable connectors are a small detail that embodies the entire approach of the designer - do the engineers even talk to each other!? Is the OEM fenced in by relying on off-the-shelf parts from suppliers? LOVE the discussion and inferences that Sandy and Cory make about HOW the companies operate based on such small details. That cable really tells you everything you need to know about the future of the auto industry. We are THRILLED to be interviewing Cory this week and very happy to see him doing more in front of the camera. Thanks again for the amazing content!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@antibrevity
@antibrevity 3 жыл бұрын
Good job, guys. This turned out to be one of the best videos yet because you were chatting about the equipment in real time. Pre-planned topics are great, but I really enjoyed the team discovering and discussing things as though you weren't even on camera. Wonderful!
@paulkieffer1189
@paulkieffer1189 3 жыл бұрын
So great sandy and team!!! You guys are fantastic. So happy you’re on KZbin.
@richardteychenne3950
@richardteychenne3950 3 жыл бұрын
Insightful guys, superb clarity on the different mindsets of the competitors!
@andyh183
@andyh183 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most valuable videos Ford engineers could possibly watch.
@PelicanNorth
@PelicanNorth 3 жыл бұрын
It's likely most of them have watched by now. Hopefully they keep an open mind rather than being defensive.
@arcadiushakim3675
@arcadiushakim3675 3 жыл бұрын
The general public, i included, would never learn about car quality in such detail without Munro Live.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Arcadius!
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 3 жыл бұрын
Henry Ford pioneered vertical integration and doing everything in-house. But there was a ridiculous push for focus on ‘core competency’ and outsourcing in the 80s, presumably the bright spark MBAs in Ford followed the fashion.
@Miata822
@Miata822 3 жыл бұрын
Henry Ford famously pushed suppliers to conform to his requirements. He did much to build the Detroit supplier industry.
@dr-k1667
@dr-k1667 3 жыл бұрын
It's what is killing them, so they better go back to vertical while they have the chance.
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 3 жыл бұрын
@@dr-k1667 vertical also kills evolution and flexibility.
@MarkXHolland
@MarkXHolland 3 жыл бұрын
@@alanmay7929 How so? Tesla is vertical, flexible, innovative and currently the last word in auto evolution.
@brois841
@brois841 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkXHolland Tesla is also a clean-sheet company. Problem with "legacy" anything is the legacy. It's much harder to change a culture than it is to create a brand new one; starting at the top and going all the way down.
@AsArg.
@AsArg. 3 жыл бұрын
Superb video guys! Been locked down in home office quarantine for long without any tear down events at work so I will enjoy a lot of the content in this channel.
@AG3333333
@AG3333333 3 жыл бұрын
The Ford on an ID4 platform will be a European model positioned below the Mach E in the European Ford lineup.
@marketingwizdom
@marketingwizdom 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@simonpageau6925
@simonpageau6925 3 жыл бұрын
I think exposing the lack of communication within legacy automakers exposes in part why they will likely fail to make the the transition to electric. Its just one glaring exemple amongst many to point out. I believe legacy auto will have to go out of business and from the ashes the "better engineers" will reroup to create EV's from the ground up. No dealership networks, no crippling dept, no pension plans to pay, no motor and transmission plants to mothball, no expensive upper management to pay for that doesn't do much for sales...
@helenlawson8426
@helenlawson8426 3 жыл бұрын
I used to think that but listening to programs like this and other engineering channels I've realised that the shear mass of the old legacy automotive companies is both their hindrance to change but what will also keep them around. They're to big to lose but at the same time they have to stay relevant to make money... so they'll change... just very... very... slowly. The Mach-E to me seems almost like an forced design to prove they're still in the game, the fact it is despite its fault a good car is evidence Ford is going to stick around. The F-150 Lightning is I feel their first real blank piece of paper ground up electric vehicle and Munro's Team breakdown of that vehicle is going to be the real test of Ford's EV credentials.
@simonpageau6925
@simonpageau6925 3 жыл бұрын
@@helenlawson8426 Dear Helen, I wish I shared your optimism regarding large legacy auto but your example of the F-150 Lightening is a good one but ultimately the inefficiency of its battery pack, limited battery supply and weak charging infrastructure and no proper over the air update capabilities and no full self-driving will make this difficult. Raw material for batteries and cell production will either kill legacy auto or reduce sales by a lot. Even if they signed a deal with Tesla and licenced all the technologies including the FSD, Over the air updates, software stack/Tesla OS they would still be looking for enough batteries meet the demand.
@kubeanie18
@kubeanie18 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonpageau6925 That's funny because the F-150 does have. Proper self-driving mode. Called Blue Cruise and the F-150 and the Mach e have over the air updates also. Only thing I agree on is our battery tech is a little bit on the low range. I'm sure they'll get more from the Volkswagen merger
@lsol
@lsol 3 жыл бұрын
It's 10% technology and 90% psychology - AND, these videos are 100% genius. Thank you Sandy!
@PeteLenz
@PeteLenz 3 жыл бұрын
Great to watch you guys! Be happy to see you guys add more reliability insights based on engineering info!
@billhanna2148
@billhanna2148 3 жыл бұрын
Sandy you have FOREVER killed the showroom salesman 💪💪👏👏👏🙏🙏.. absolutely no way I could ever buy a car without your reviewing it first ! Thank YOU 🙏
@daviddenley3512
@daviddenley3512 3 жыл бұрын
What I like about you guys is your very thorough! You look and checkout every part which is very good to know really as there is no stone unturned. Thank You for your integrity.
@Ed-jg3ud
@Ed-jg3ud 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the live back and forth as they explored the engineering. Hope u continue this style in more videos
@jhalkias17
@jhalkias17 3 жыл бұрын
Ford is going to use the VW MEB platform in Europe. Not in the US. The Mach E is not built on that platform so no surprise they are not sharing components or methods.
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 3 жыл бұрын
I get the impression that the Mach E was a special project like the GT40, used to showcase the EV capability that likely won’t be present in any of the other EVs.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 3 жыл бұрын
MEB platform is a DECADE out of date.
@royphillips7644
@royphillips7644 3 жыл бұрын
The US made mach E will be made with parts from US suppliers. The European mach E will be made with parts from European suppliers.
@tzarcoal1018
@tzarcoal1018 3 жыл бұрын
@@royphillips7644 at the moment there is no mach-e production in Europe and i am not aware of any plans for the future..all the Mach-E sold in Europe are shipped across the Atlantic and made in Mexico at the moment) Fords biggest European Factory ( Cologne, Germany) is currently renovated to produce EVs, but as far as i know, not the Mach-E.
@royphillips7644
@royphillips7644 3 жыл бұрын
@@tzarcoal1018 They will produce it over there. It is their flag ship car.
@gudfarfar
@gudfarfar Жыл бұрын
I am very happy with your show and the knowledge you demonstrate. So many good analyses of the various EV makers work and results. I will stay a subscriber for a long time.
@vaibhavdlv
@vaibhavdlv 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for this. Amazing thought process and experience!!
@Jopacob
@Jopacob 3 жыл бұрын
One of your best, love these, especially the end when he showed us the connector
@macuss87
@macuss87 3 жыл бұрын
I love the conversation style of this video! Hearing the guys talk it out in real time is fascinating!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. We will do more in this style.
@briansilver9652
@briansilver9652 3 жыл бұрын
Artists ALWAYS sign their work (if they are proud of it). As an industrial electrician, I was always leaving my calling card in any panel I rewired and my coworkers asked me why. They would say that if something went wrong they are going to blame you. I know, was my reply.
@rogerstarkey5390
@rogerstarkey5390 3 жыл бұрын
Also GREAT for reputation!? 😉👍
@approverman
@approverman 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of stuff we learn from this channel is fantastic.
@victorescobar7437
@victorescobar7437 3 жыл бұрын
I loved seeing the thought process behind deciphering the vehicle. That was cool.
@garymbuck1
@garymbuck1 3 жыл бұрын
Keep them coming, I can't get enough. Thanks, Sandy and Team.
@collincorso1758
@collincorso1758 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the new format you used with this video. I felt as though we, the viewers, were a ‘fly on the wall’ listening in on some behind the scenes analysis of what goes on at Munro. Highly technical, but then always circling back to the viewer every now and then to bring us up to speed. Very well done. Could be the best formatted video yet. Some of the Mach E videos prior to this started feeling a bit like a formal investors presentation or something.
@immigrantlife1089
@immigrantlife1089 3 жыл бұрын
This is so good. I cant tell you how much of value this has added to my understanding. Thank you always Sandy!!
@mini2nut67
@mini2nut67 3 жыл бұрын
Cory is a natural. Great job with your clear and concise explanations. Toss in some engineering humor and you will be the man!
@morrisg
@morrisg 3 жыл бұрын
You guys have made an old engineer very happy! I love watching you pull things apart and really dig down into the details pointing out the good stuff as well as the flaws. Terrific stuff!!!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@Cyril88100
@Cyril88100 3 жыл бұрын
Great retro engineering style. Like this format, everything is clear, reflection/interpretation aspect is a good idea, just like I do everyday :) Great job !
@codykonior
@codykonior 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s see more Al. I get the feeling he really liked being on camera!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Al actually crashed the film session, he didn’t even know we were filming until 10 minutes in. Al will be back for a few videos!
@bluetoad2668
@bluetoad2668 3 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive it gave the whole thing a spontaneous unrehearsed feel which I like, as if maybe I just dropped by for a chat with you guys.
@curtisbme
@curtisbme 3 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive Uh huh. He is the kid behind the news camera on the street saying "oh I didn't know you were recording"... ;)
@cawfeedawg
@cawfeedawg 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are a Master class in engineering.. thanks guys . AMazing!
@dwightadams3853
@dwightadams3853 2 жыл бұрын
Great interaction/discussion with us as a bug in the wall watching and listening. This is a great video because of the interaction between Cory and Sandy.
@arcachofo
@arcachofo 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this analysis-discussion ... amazing team!
@profpigeon5441
@profpigeon5441 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh the Old McPherson setup..I don't know whats going on but I love this
@mwjoe66
@mwjoe66 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Would love to see more like this. Really enjoyed the discussion on suspension components & geometry, and on electrical connectors.
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@abcqer555
@abcqer555 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Love the comparison. More please
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@MorganWalser
@MorganWalser 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again guys, great content as usual.
@DerkaSherpaDerka
@DerkaSherpaDerka 3 жыл бұрын
Great video - very informative - Corey is a great and really knows his stuff. I’m learning heaps! Thanks
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@paullester2535
@paullester2535 3 жыл бұрын
learning something new in every episode - keep it up MunroLive team
@TWEO
@TWEO 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge and experience with us.
@Durianpieenthusiast
@Durianpieenthusiast 3 жыл бұрын
The team really shows that we’re in the infancy stages of EVs still. Every video seems to be filled to the brim with potential improvements for every platform.
@craighermle7727
@craighermle7727 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but speaking as a engineer, it also seems very obvious that one of them has a clear lead has borrowed a tag line from apple vs "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
@Rock12665
@Rock12665 3 жыл бұрын
really liked hearing the conversation between Sandy and Corey during the video felt like I was I getting a behind the senses of how you guys interact when doing these projects, really enjoyed it! Also, liked Corey giving grades to get a sense of how good the engineering was and the comparison of parts between tesla
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent take, Scott!
@scottwozniak3988
@scottwozniak3988 3 жыл бұрын
A great meeting of the minds! Thanks for the info and insight. Another great episode!
@cmuchmore
@cmuchmore 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode. I have bought a Tesla Y and am trading in my Mache E largely on because of your videos. Really informative. Thanks guys.
@adamhoneycutt77
@adamhoneycutt77 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked interplay of ideas/observations among the engineers. Good stuff!
@allan80supra
@allan80supra 3 жыл бұрын
This discussion format is really good!
@avasolaris1
@avasolaris1 3 жыл бұрын
Well done again. Great stuff , keep it up
@paulwinter9672
@paulwinter9672 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, great info.🙂
@Eudamonia-123
@Eudamonia-123 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Love your associate Cory, very knowledgeable!
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kirk!
@stevemyers2092
@stevemyers2092 3 жыл бұрын
thanks team. Great crew Sandy.
@perfev
@perfev 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on getting technical guys, this is what I come to your channel for! 👏🏻
@MunroLive
@MunroLive 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@kvsingh007
@kvsingh007 3 жыл бұрын
Cory is great....I hope ford is watching this and improve. This review tells competition is between Tesla and legacy oems. It's legacy oem have to fight their own culture and approach to engineering
@-LightningRod-
@-LightningRod- 3 жыл бұрын
can't even begin to tell you all how much i enjoy sitting in on Your scrum sessions, its really just an absolute treat to now have the ability to listen in on smart , experienced people discovering and exploring exactly what it is that manufacturers foist upon us. One question tho, ...why does Munro & Assoc hire super-model engineers/
@Omar-eg4in
@Omar-eg4in 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Sandy, as an engineering student Im really grateful for ur channel it really connects the theoritical stuff we are taking about electric drives and manufacturing processes to the real life.
@scyberfin
@scyberfin 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see these guys with the Plaid! The expertise is immense.
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