MACHARIA GAITHO: Soon The Political Class Will Not Be Able To Contain Kenya's Revolutions

[@Tony-im6ub]

People will sit and discuss all day up and down bt for there to be real change and progress RUTO MUST GO!

[@benjaminnzioki8815]

Thought so! The panel discussions have been thoughtful and very enlightening. They have cast a spotlight on importance of good governance, secured on principles of accountability, transparency, responsiveness, equity and inclusiveness, rule of law, and efficiency in resource allocation. What has been discussed since the beginning of the year is good enough to inform on Kenya’s policy framework and strategy for economic development in the next 10 years without the need for national dialogue conventions.

[@kevinmarutit8192]

This show has been very instrumental in enlightening Kenyans and awakening the national consciousness of our people. These guys are the true heroes of our time!

[@diddiousdenali]

It’s just doesn’t happen with commenting you too have to play a role and stop hiding behind your keyboard

[@Sexymama60885]

The person who should go is YOU!... This is because you are going against the will of the people who voted in Ruto for 5 Years! Three more to go! Respect the LAW - respect the will of the people!

[@stanleyoketch8134]

Ruto will go down in history as some energetic sweet talker who rose to Presidency but completely lacked the capacity to even ably be a cabinet minister.

[@duncanouma7354]

Hana nyota ya uongozi😂

[@Sexymama60885]

Just because you don't understand him - does not mean he is the problem! It simply means that you are unable to think at his level. The President has his degrees, complete to attain the title of Doctor... I hope you even have a Diploma to your name! Kenya is ours, Dr Ruto cannot change it himself! He has 3 years to go before being judged! Rome was not built in a day!

[@muspylenz]

@@Sexymama60885 watu wa tukokira tene🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BlackKing1858]

Tofauti yako na mende ni mbio tu,what does Rutos degree help Kenya in?

[@AmorosoGombe]

Examples of getting it would be things like: 1. We're privatizing the parastatals on the NSE and getting the state's corrupting influence out of commerce. 2. We are cutting the ministries down to 10 mission critical ministries only the rest stand dissolved and their staff are to go on paid leave with immediate effect. There pay will continue for 1 year to give them time to find alternative employment. 3. We are capping maximum pay in the civil service to 3X annual per capita GDP for all state officers with immediate effect and all pay ranks must be readjusted pro-rata in line with that. 4. We are closing all state houses and lodges bar state house Nairobi, they will be put up for auction. 4. No governor or minister will be allowed more than one chase car and the president and DP will be allowed 2 chase cars each on account of their ranks. 5. All foreign travel is suspended unless it is absolutely essential for a development project and will be drawn from that budget in that event. - You get the picture. Tangible consequential measures that actually move the needle, now. That's what "getting it" looks like.

[@betty71595]

This is the dream New Kenya that we MUST have for sane to reign in this country. NOT what we have now where the Elected in this country earn more than too much & on top of that raid our public coffers in corrupt deals leaving Wanjiku staggering to pay the high taxes just to sustain their expensive lifestyles which they naively think is their right🤔

[@gracenjuguna7292]

I totally agree. I feel exactly the same!❤

[@janeruheni2973]

Ruto will be named in world book of record as the most lier who forgets what ever he had lied earlier.

[@omemaskema9012]

Hapoo sasa umewezaa kabisaaa

[@mutisyakithuka9664]

Kenya needs a revolution that will get the politicians come down to earth.For a start get Ruto,Raila and company get out the way.Let the title mheshimiwa vanish in our minds and let us start afresh.The time is here not matter what the political class craft for now.Kenyas future belongs to Gen Z and millennials, by nature.Wapende, Wasipende.

[@JadeReal]

The BEST conversation today on spice. Factual without fear!!!!!

[@muspylenz]

you like spices😂😂

[@JadeReal]

@@muspylenz are you an idiot? Wait don’t answer. You ARE an idiot.

[@johnnguyo6597]

Many people today prioritize loyalty to individuals or groups they like or benefit from over standing up for what's objectively right or just. This can lead to: - Blind loyalty - Biased perspectives - Compromised values - Injustice and wrongdoing being ignored or excused It's essential to recognize that defending what's right, even if it's difficult or unpopular, is crucial for: - Upholding truth and integrity - Promoting fairness and justice - Protecting the vulnerable - Maintaining a clear conscience Let's strive to be principled and defend what's right, even when it's challenging or doesn't benefit us directly. By doing so, we can create a more just and equitable society.

[@benjaminnzioki8815]

I couldn't have said it better! It was very disappointing to see Edwin Sifuna retreat into a tribal cocoon when he felt isolated by ODM yet a majority of Kenyans exalt him as a national leader. Rashid Echesa castigating the president for appointing him the chairman of the Kenya Water Towers Agency Board for three years because he gets only Kes.54,000 in sitting allowance, and the board convenes only six times in a year. Rashid complained that Wetangula and Mudavadi did not follow through in getting 30% of all government appointments given to people from his community.

[@kitangoma]

CT your hats are everything! Seriously though, I love your show. Listening from Madison WI. You are thoughtful and deliberate, asking hard hitting questions and pressing for answers. Your banter is also a vibe 😂. Keep doing what you do! Appreciate all of you❤

[@silaslovespeace7398]

understanding is a collective sense.

[@snjau7613]

Young people have died,one had his brains on the pavement,we saw it. Young people are still disappearing and found dead.The security services have been unleashed on Kenyans and are doing despicable atrocities. They are doing this on Ruto’s authority while he is busy campaigning;who heard of a sitting President campaigning? Raila and his ODM party has lost the little credibility they had by joining with Ruto. Kenyans countrywide feel worse about Ruto,Parliament and senate than before his finance bill.

[@johnadede3742]

Luos have born the brunt of state brutality for long. I don’t wish it on others.

[@Sexymama60885]

Porojo! Why are the young people forcing themselves to Parliament and State House? Where were they in the last election? The people chose Dr Ruto.. he has 5 Years - only about 2 have gone.. 3 to go! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! Dr Ruto is going no where. Kibakis time protests were over a Month and 1,300 people died but Kibaki remained President! We are no where near here and Ruto is going no where, The people in denial are just messing us up! We are tired! Wait for the next election and vote then~

[@StanleyNjoroge-v5w]

This conversation has been Spot On

[@adelaideingosi1533]

Powerful discussion. Thank you.

[@anthonymuriithi7957]

There is no solution to millions of unsolved problems associated with Ruto government.He only have 3 years to go home.And belive me,he is not going to be any better but to look for survival tactics to clinch 2027 seat.He knows he is a one term president.

[@dansonkago3190]

Loot all must go !!!!💯

[@elijahogaya8837]

A good conversation this has been. I hope Dr Ruto could watch.

[@andrewgatabaki3295]

Spice FM always makes my day. Go guys?

[@georgeopiyo609]

End time for political dinosaurs

[@paulsiro1775]

I like that phrasing .

[@muspylenz]

@@paulsiro1775 because of a generation that was adamant about changing, God, let them fall in the desert, to the last one of them even Moses himself didn't make it, they were also the reason he didn't make it for they became a stumbling block for in anger he disobeyed God, the same script. Remember it was 11 days and ended up a 400-year-plus journey.

[@dennisalbert6115]

Erick ako na kazi ngumu sana, he is always leaning away from putting blame on the government. najua ni kazi, professionally the whole show should not be polarizing and made to look like they are taking sides so i get it, ako na kazi ngumu but it is hard to swallow manze.

[@sandejzack]

Ruto suffers from a superman level of incompetence, tone-deafness and deeply ingrained reflexive narcissism; he is profoundly unsuited to be the President of Kenya in 2024

[@OndiekOminde]

Very powerful discussion

[@254collins]

Ruto is a mad Man

[@amoratyclamar6215]

I think this isnt about politics only,The thing goes beyond upto spiritual issues of which its not being discussed about.

[@kennedyobiero5697]

I don't mean to be tribal but somehow these Kikuyu opinion shapers seem to only wake up or be highly active when none of their is in power. We saw with Kibaki and we saw with Uhuru.. But i agree with him.

[@abdallahkambi3613]

We have to be honest, changes usually comes gradually, it doesn't happen at a go. Even reaching where we are it took time. In a society we need one another whether you are a toddler, dinosaur, Gen z, women, men, poor, rich, very rich, very poor, religious, non-religious, etc. otherwise if we're young and force the old to go home and wait for death so that we can take charge as young ones who will advice us when we mess things up? And we know very well as youth we need also to be advised by the old so that we can have a smooth transition from young to old enough age to take over leadership. Arab spring came and we all know what happened, until now there's no stability in those countries. Responsible leadership should advice the youth on how to achieve change but without destroying the country. We can easily destroy a country by igniting the youth to go to the street and force people to vacate offices and so on an we know very well yes we'll have materials for people to watch the news, watch our stations and forgetting people will be very busy either fighting one another, trying to survive or even the tv stations might not be there. The youth might even evolve and come to you parents to force you to die so that they can inherite what ever you might have since there will be no country or job opportunities anymore. If Raila was to run again i would vote for him because he has convinced me (am not a Luo) that he's a good leader. What the Gen zs should do is to organize themselves in a political way and take over the country in 2027 democratically. Let's stop abusing leaders who have been there for long fighting for freedom in our country because everyone had a chance to become what they wanted, others became successful politicians, business men, career people, success beggers, house wives, house husbands and so on. So it's not fair to abuse politicians sometimes and we are the ones who elected them and we had choices to choose from

[@alexmwangi4464]

Waah

[@siaindibwa1583]

Presenting yourself for leadership position is to serve, we should give these leaders allowance not salary, MCA should earn 50k, mp , senator governors should not earn more than 300k, same to judges CS, PS etc

[@mungamwarome6]

….my feelings exactly..!

[@TravisTosmo]

I like spice fm and am a big fan of all the guys in the studio but there is something they are missing here, the problem is not that they don't get what the people want, it's just that what they want is the polar opposite of what the people want. Let's not attribute what they are doing or saying or not doing or not saying to their misunderstanding of the people but to their conflict of interest with the people, and if the people's wishes are good, legal, and right, their wishes are bad, criminal, and wrong.

[@andrewonsongo3045]

I think before Gen z protests, Ruto was already dealing with a problem with sections of mt kenya led by DP Gachagua. Ruto was desperate to find a way of neutralizing that Gachagua threat. The Gen z uprise gave him a perfect excuse to unentangle himself. In pretending to make changes to heed to Gen Zs, he actually made changes to solve the Gachagua problem. In any case, government of government unity wasnt among the issues Gen zs protested against.

[@Sexymama60885]

Wrong! Rigathi and no one are a threat to Dr Ruto.. that's why people said next election is 2032 when Ruto gets out of power. Dr Ruto knows how to build consensus.. that is why Opposition guys are coming in as CS - Dr Ruto is very sharp and has all the money! He also understands our psychology - may God continue to give him wisdom!

[@Spectre-Turner20]

Mt. Kenya including Gaitho mobilised GenZs to do their bid. That's why when Raila failed to support them, Genz issue died.

[@diddiousdenali]

Ruto and all those old folks should know it’s a wrap for their ethic, worship me kind of politics is Done!! The citizens are woke and more informed. It’s just a matter of time it may not happen tomorrow but trust me it’s coming soon…

[@Sexymama60885]

There is a broad based government with tribes across the board . We are on the right track. Next election 2027.. walk over then 2032!

[@AlfredMuriithi]

It is said that before the gods kill a king they first make him believe his own lies

[@lucywanja3019]

Thank you. The threat to the current administration is the citizens.

[@winnykazungu8675]

They’re playing deaf, so they can continue looting. It’s like a curse being an African politician . Mhula huu kimewaramba tuko rada.

[@geraldmaina6236]

😂😂😂 Latiff you are cold 😂

[@pchab1966]

Clinical trials😂

[@sufaenterprise630]

I regrate a lot to vote Mr Ruto into power we should have listened to Uhuru

[@nyobs]

Am agree, HE DOESN'T GET IT! However you put it! GenZ will sort him out.

[@georgemayo5623]

Next Guests, should be Francis Atwoli and Koigi wa wamwere, on this show. I would like to hear there views/ opinions with regards to the current situation in 🇰🇪 Kenya.

[@shareefcondon]

Like discussing deck chairs on the titanic?

[@georgemayo5623]

True it appears the President is on a campaign mood.

[@abocas]

…. But there is always enough money for paying the executive, the PSs, their advisors, the senators and governors and the MPs. And, I suppose, the MCAs.

[@bryanotieno7106]

Technology advancements will help to curtail corruption and humangous issues plaguing Kenya's economy

[@stillirise6086]

Murkomen has sold JKIA but is still in government. Why ???Because he has 'eaten' with his boss the appointing authority.

[@kipsoin]

@@stillirise6086 idiotic conspiracy. Show proof.

[@erickke7789]

Amepelekwa sports kuuza Kasarani stadium

[@OsungaOkello]

“Broad-Based” is just another word for “BeauDiFul” , who doesn’t like that?

[@jamesmuthuri910]

Dr. Ndii postulates that, a minority of Gen Z are in urban arears, and less than 3% of Gen Z in urban areas are graduates, thus its a minoity. The "partnership" with Raila supports this notion.

[@garywahome7044]

We say Ruto does not get it. Really? I think we don't get it. To Ruto, he understands that we have a political problem and not economic per se. He believes that if he fixes the politics, the economy follows suit. It's idealistic and naive to think we can have economic transformation without a supporting political environment.

[@sarahkirowo3507]

There is nothing new under the sun; what is happening with the " king"is exactly what happened to king Saul when God rejected him.

[@sueshi3792]

Kenya has not yet seen the REEEEAL WSR, ata kidogo, BADO!!!

[@chriswandabwa2212]

Let them wait for him to rig in 2027 and butcher people. The worst mistake was those who believed in mdomo tamutamu of Ruto and went ahead to vote for him.

[@mwendapoleee]

The proverb can be used in a family setup,when your mum has a cooking stick and a naughty kid takes off or even slippers can be a weapon.

[@samwelmohochi8364]

Hyme no 9

[@georgemayo5623]

It appears people become disenchanted , with politicians speaking about promises, on the public holidays.

[@fredlock2456]

Independent External Government oversight of all departments is all that is needed. I wonder why it's not in place Mr ruto

[@worldanimal4966]

If they ignore the auditor general, I don't think they will pay attention to oversight bodies. Let people access information and hold the government accountable.

[@pchab1966]

CT you are hinting at a good point regarding Raila. Let me spell it out if you will humor me: Raila has ALWAYS been with a narrow base - LDP, NDP, ODM, etc. The genius of Raila is from the 90s (even earlier) he was able to advance the narrative (that Gen Z are restoring to our national conversation) while really driving his narrow based political vehicles. He coopted the national narrative started in the 1970s, of criticism of the creation of a Kenya of "10 millionaires and 10 million beggars". Then he betrayed it with the handshake. So now, the political class owns the whole mess! And that is why Gen Z - for now - is leader less. They are the only ones staying true to the narrative that is decades old.

[@robertgichuru8707]

Is Macharia Gaitho's analogy of a housewife managing a monthly grocery budget a fair reflection of the everyday reality for most Kenyans, or does it miss the mark in capturing the diverse financial struggles faced by our communities? (@37.30)

[@JoyceAntony-gm1rs]

Come on Kenyans since this government Come in Azimio groups been working hard to stop 🛑 UDA to prove, maandamano every day court cases were in place everything Come up court stopped 😮

[@ignatius7106]

Manufacturing means job jobs jobs... We should all look in the mirror.. Its simple logic.. if we buy labels from abroad we are automatically exporting jobs. When did the Gen Z last wear a Bata shoe.. Which car owners bought sameer tires before it closed.. Jobs are not going to come from the sky unless we start appreciating and be patriotic ( like india) buying things we produce first..

[@myreekeym1406]

This is where the answer lies. Unless we stop with our appetite for imported stuff, we shall continue complaining about lack of jobs. Of course, the government must make it viable to establish manufacturing companies.

[@qrankmw.]

@@ignatius7106 ehh...it has never been about jobs...that is why most of us black have no "control"..control is key... ..the workers in vietnam..china....here in epz..fdi's earn very little... ..the diff is control...most vietnamese..or chinese have control of their destiny... ..the presidents of those countries earn max about 10 times what average worker earns...here..?.. ...that means a more equitable sharing of national wealth...which is evident in all workers having better access to services/products(s.o.l.)... ..now..compare that income disparity to any place on earth where blacks live... ..numbers tell the truth-mostly...and .. ..to see is to believe... ..,."control" depends what you choose to see...

[@Georgekamau-fs7lt]

Ruto is good at telling kenyans a bunch of sweet nothing's

[@HumphreyLyimo-zg4qn]

Anguka nayo, no turning back Ruto must go. This is unstoppable, watch thi space.....

[@trooper6217]

Indeed, at the speed the government is screwing up the country, i think next year the economy will be on the floor and mass protests will happen. Much bigger protests than we have seen now. And then its bye bye for mr. Wheelbarow

[@Sexymama60885]

Dreams!... Dr Ruto is here till 2032! He was voted in .. your candidate lost... move on!

[@jamesohayo5329]

Raila may have fanatical grassroots followers in Luoland. But his support among the Luo middle class and well-educated Luo youth in urban areas has suffered irreversibly. Outside Luoland, Raila and ODM will be a hard sell in 2027.

[@mwangimuhammad-sx9hb]

Hapo pa ( enemies of development, agents of foreign masters na money has been poured ), ni sayings that were common back in time!

[@njengahhm]

When the only tool you have in your tool box is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail

[@LucyWamwere]

Mr, macharia, if the order of the country shall be normalised in the manner of musical chairs exchange, we shall publicly conclude that Gen-z was then organised and we'll set to complain and create the present situations. This Will have to have been a plan of the Government and ODM !

[@stephenmbogo8433]

Once more,whoever introduced Ruto to Kenyans messed up😢😢😢

[@Kenya74]

Moi

[@remnant.watchman]

I think it will be regrettable if we fail to audit our national debt after all the country has been through in the last one-and-a-half months.

[@PublicOpinionBench]

Ruto worships money.

[@Youzrneim]

The clapping from what I have witnessed is from mobilized and paid crowds.as you will notice they clap even before Ruto makes any tangible statement.Saw it firsthand the crowds citing delayed payments here in mombasa

[@alvingamez4590]

New dispensation.. political class watajikaraga na mafuta yao

[@adrianqx]

I now believe ruto is a sociopath , we are arguing with a mad man !!!

[@abocas]

Just imagine ….. people leaving the country in droves, with a new passport, Ruto has solved the problem with protesters. And unemployment.

[@charlesambetsa5359]

A bit disappointing. If this is meant as an interview, let Macharia respond. For the interviewers to make statements that take up an entire 5 minutes is not the reason you invited the guest is it?

[@petevizual8348]

There is something called building up a question, This is a conversation not an interview, you get it?

[@frednyongesa661]

when jounilist face there own roles are reversed

[@charlesambetsa5359]

​@@petevizual8348hope you watched the video mate.😊

[@charlesambetsa5359]

If you invite a guest for a 'conversation' and you end up saying more than they do,what's the point?

[@bonnybonny4694]

😂😂😂Ruto is cursed with lies.... nothing truthful he can spew out for the remainder of his years on this earth. Expect zero improvement from him! Catastrophic season we're in😢!

[@josephmburu4494]

All of a sudden there is money for development, promises are being made for bridges, roads, glaneries, aeroplane tickets for flying abroad kwani pesa simetoka wapi, ama nyinyi wakenya mumekuwa mafala sana ndiyo sababu munaamini Kuwa zakayo ataleta mabadiliko kenya hii, munaenda, munadanganyea na bado munampigia makofi,ni wakenya wangapi walipata scholarship mwaka Jana baada ya madaraka day, Gen Zs ndiyo kiboko chenu 2027, na Tinga mambo ambayo unafanya sasa na serikali ya kk, utapoteza baadaye.

[@ernestkihika1205]

Latiff if today you found your bank accounts empty what will you first step. I guess you will immediately ask for your bank statement and audit where money went. Did Ruto audit why the government wallet was empty😥😥

[@lizzysnest3913]

He knows where the money went. Why would he need to audit. The citizens are the ones that need the audit.

[@obarelida]

unfortunately ruto has a lying spirit

[@gakahuruko2331]

Ruto has no knowledge of how to run a gov't.

[@Njokama]

There will come a time when parents will join Gen Zs.

[@kipsoin]

You journalists should be tracking President Rutto’s promises not focusing on the people he hires. The important thing is to follow service delivery. Where is your oversight in documenting corruption and mismanagement other than following the conspiracies we all get from social media. Report the truth about the corruption not what you purport to be corruption possible happening.

[@itslydia6426]

The people he hires are the ones in charge of giving us the services thus they need to be properly scrutinized or else they will just continue to loot while Kenyans suffer.

[@geoffreyogaro5727]

Ruto should keep quiet, and stay in state house

[@alexmwangi4464]

Instead of having such great minds as advisors

[@ClemenceMalanga-m4n]

He has been campaigning since he took office

[@JoyceAntony-gm1rs]

I don't like kenya constitution it's not for Kenyans, belongings western countries Americans and UK 🇬🇧 we need to charge the kenya constitution .

[@Gaming_with_Martin]

Never believe Ruto he sell LIES LIES LIES LIES

[@edwinmutuma3236]

Ndu had a "yawa" moment because of Ruto lies.

[@MINDYourLanguage1977Series]

How will this tribalist survive should they come in to terms we not listening to their tactics? There are 7 other regions other than Central Kenya. And all deserves developments as well. This tribalist be like it's only for Mt Kenya. And after we deserves to relax wait for another Mt Kenya leader as president so that we can continue doing developments. They normally think we fools and we can't see past their acts. Washenzi sana.

[@koncark6183]

Ruto thinks he solved political issues. Gen Z demands economic resolve. Ruto got a different memo clearly. He is reading from a different script

[@alvinmaina5508]

The Dishonorable, His incompetency, Mtukutu Lies William Samoei Ruto campaigning, as the current president!!! After only 2 n half years

[@JoyceAntony-gm1rs]

Kenyans go read 📖 your constitution properly by yourself than come out here telling us bullshit 😮

[@anthonymaina2215]

Clinical trials 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JohnMmbaga_]

Mene tekel Upharsin: when King Belshazzar was enjoying life with his cronies, Cyrus, the Persian was breaching the walls of Babylon. That same night, Belshazzar was captured and killed. Kenya Kwanza is on veeeery thin ice. May they see the signs and change their ways. Or else....

[@corneroduor543]

You know the truth we must speak the truth, we should not blame people for no reason, Kikuyus always do things and come back to blame Raila, they voted for this government, what is wrong with Raila stabilizing this government to make it serve them as they wish, Raila once supported and installed kibaki by saying kibaki tosha knowing so well kibaki is a kikuyu, when will kikuyu say Raila tosha, they have always paid him with hatred for all his good to them, Let kikuyus rip from what they planted, let them stop blaming Raila for their decisions, they also have men the age of Raila, they can do what they want Raila to do.

[@KamauRuheni-eg5xe]

In today's interview, Latiff appears puzzled. He asks Macharia Gaitho thrice: "But why don't they get it?" Let me attempt to answer. To Ruto and the KK in positions of authority, time is defined by how much they have looted so far, and therefore the longer the time they can buy, the better. And hence the wild promises at public rallies and on top of cars. They have absolutely no interest in solving this country's problems. But above all, this anxiety is the cause of the regime's extreme brutality in dealing with protestors, including killing very young peaceful Gen Z protestors, maimings, abductions and disappearances. They view protestors as ther mortal enemies, whose aim is to disrupt and shorten their looting party!🤣😅

[@thegratenjambinimurungah1219]

Power abhors vacuum. Let us be careful to think what will occupy that space called power if gen z's succeed in ousting him.

[@TIKTOK_CHANNEL101]

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