Charging your Mach-E at Home! Tips on charging equipment and charging best practices!

[@EELinneman]

Keep in mind the load on the circuit has to be derated to 80% of capacity, so a 50 amp circuit supports a 40 amp setting on the charger. Also, do not skimp on the outlet. The cheaper ones are not designed or built to carry that much load for that long. Another great video from the best in the field. Thank you Liv and Patrick.

[@nissan_skyline]

What does it mean if you have a 2 pole 40 amp breaker switch? What is the actual amperage?

[@dubmob151]

​@@nissan_skyline 40 amps. The poles just means there's two separate lines being switched, but since they're used in series for the power, the amps remain the same.

[@PettitPlaysGolf]

Another great video, very much appreciated from someone who has admired the Mach-E for 2 years now and finally about to buy a house and a Mach-E! Can’t wait

[@MachE_VLOG]

Yay! I know this was a long time ago but congratulations! - Liv

[@Yanquetino]

Yay! You got your Mach-E back! This post will prove informative for EV neophytes! As for me… heh… I've been charging my EVs for a dozen year now, from both 120V and 240V outlets, dedicated EVSEs, and mobile connectors at RV parks, the homes of family and friends, etc. Easy-peasy!

[@teacherm96]

Great video on home charging.

[@rojor22]

First-time owner here of a used '23 Premium Std Range (Li-Ion), and wanted to say thanks for the tips on this video. Answered every question I had.

[@freakyflockfarm871]

I installed the Emporia charger (using a plug in) and installed their panel monitoring. I love it since we are on a demand load billing - the charger will adjust what it supplies to the car based on what the main panel is using - so we don’t go over a 10kw demand at any time even if the hot tub is heating.

[@dubmob151]

So it changes the pwm signal to the car to tell it to restrict the amount of current it draws -

[@dmunro9076]

The typical exterior or garage 120v outlet is a NEMA 5-15 (15A peak and 12A continuous). If the outlet is fed with a 20A breaker using 12-2 wire the outlet can be changed to a NEMA 5-20 (20A peak and 16A continuous), and then with the correct plug adapter the EV can charge at 15 or 16amp/120v which provides a nice boost in charging at very little cost. 12-2 wire will also support a breaker change from 15A to 20A. Additionally if the 12-2 wire outlet has a dedicated breaker (no other loads on that circuit) it might be possible to change the breaker to a 20amp 240v and the outlet to a NEMA 6-20, which will allow charging at 240v at up to 16amps. This is often the cheapest way to get L2 charging at home. I did both of these mods in my garage for very little money and I have NEMA 5-20 and 6-20 outlets available.

[@dubmob151]

Do the chargers have any way to detect the wiring and current handling capacity of the socket connection, or is the current limited by a user selection? How would it know if you plugged into a 5-15R vs a 5-20R? I'd imagine it'd be fairly simple for the chargers to detect the current capability based on voltage drop sensing under load, but not sure if they do that on some or all the different units.

[@jdlutz1965]

​@@dubmob151the chargers do not detect the wiring. It is up to the installer/electrician to set the limits on EVSE if level of wiring is undersized for the amperage (lower amp breaker). That said, fastest charging isn't always best. I often recommend people install something that fits their needs for daily charging. Do you really need to have a full charge every night within 6 hours when your car sits idle for 16 hours, perhaps a slower (lower amp) charger works best without needing to upgrade panel, wiring, etc.

[@jenniferfisher1743]

Your channel is so helpful! Have you tested the Ford Level 2 charger? If so, what do you think? Ford is currently offering an install of at home charger covering up to $1000 cost of equipment + installation) or $1000 cash. What would you take??

[@MachE_VLOG]

@@jenniferfisher1743 Their home installation sounds like a great deal to me. If I didn't have a charger already installed, that is what I'd go with. The only negative that I've heard is that their contractor (Qmerit) can take a few weeks to schedule the install.

[@Will-mv3ol]

Any recommendations on what to do if you get a charging paused message when home charging? Just purchased my new Mach E and can't charge at home.

[@jeremygaal9946]

Love my Emporia. I got frustrated waiting for my CSP from Ford, so i bought one and have loved it

[@Rich_Juricich]

I've found the level 2 (240 volt) mobile charging cable that comes with the Mach E works fine for my in home use. I don't drive a lot every day, so no need for anything more elaborate. The Ford Pass software works fine for scheduling and monitoring charge levels. I am interested in learning more about connecting my charging unit to a home solar power system. Is it necessary to get a battery to make that work, or just charge during the day?

[@asselinpower]

I have a 2024 Xtended range . I have a x6 Flo charger . It s supposed to run on 48 amp and it should charge up to 12kw. For some reason, it tops at 46 amp and charges at 10kw… I have no idea why…. Would you know ?

[@gfunktuba1]

Would it be possible to adapt a 30A RV outlet to charge a machine e?

[@MattKoester-l3t]

I think you touched on this 16 minutes in but I am having issues charging my 2024 Mach E with my hardwired Chargepoint Charger.. Using Fordpass App for scheduling (2300-0500) and set my Chargepoint home charger to no schedule. When I plug in outside of the Ford scheduled time, the charger starts charging. I would like to avoid this as our rates are steep during the day in AZ. Should I set up the Chargepoint schedule in addition to the schedule in the Ford? Again, I think you answered this but just clarifying.

[@YeOldeTraveller]

Just got a new Mach-E, and it took a while to determine that I needed to connect at home before I would be able to set a limit. I wish there was a way to set the default limits for AC and DC charging separate from the locations. I also work from home most days, and there is Level 2 charging at work on the days I do go in. I plan to only charge to 75% at home. We will see how that works. We have TOU rates, so I will be excluding the off-peak periods. Thanks for the video.

[@jaydub49]

I'm curious why you did not recommend using an existing 240 V dryer outlet ? I had to get a plug adapter to use with my included Ford charger for my 2023 machE, but it has been working perfectly, I actually contacted an electrician first and he said that is a safe option if that's the way you want to go, saves me $$$$ too

[@lancastergerard]

He did

[@daphenom]

Hi, thanks for this video. I'm curious, have you checked your HV Battery State of Health with an OBD scanner? I checked my 19 month MME and it's at 94.5 State of health. Just curious if anyone else has had this kind of degradation in less than 2 yrs.

[@Billy.80]

You can do a 48A EVSE on a 60A outlet (NEMA14-60) per NEC 625.44 (A) (3) and hardwired goes up to an 80A EVSE on a 100A circuit (such as the Ford Charge Station Pro). You could have done something like the Emporia with load management. It uses a couple current sensors that get installed on the line side of your main breaker and monitor your overall load in real time. Light load and the EVSE can run up to 48A, turn on everything in your house and the output can drop all the way down to 6A. The Ford mobile EVSE is made by Webasto, who also makes identical EVSE for other manufacturers, such as VW, that are cheaper.

[@Torey3D]

FYI. I had to get my circuit box upgraded and has the charger that I bought offline for $500 installed all in it was $2,000, but now it's hardwired directly into my circuit box with its own dedicated circuit=peace of mind Casteel was the company

[@tomwest7789]

What does your auto insurance run you per year? Just curious....Thanks.

[@tonymanasseri6385]

Great video, easy communication, thanks

[@geetsippy8234]

Does ford charging station pro works for mustang mach e?

[@MachE_VLOG]

Yes, but you want get any faster charging than 11.5 kW. The Lightning can get 19.2 kW using the Charge Station Pro.,

[@geetsippy8234]

@@MachE_VLOG since it gives 80 amps , does it needs same as 48 amps charger ? Or any other electrical difference ?

[@matthassett4225]

Thanks for the info...looks like we're Oside locals.

[@MachE_VLOG]

Hey that's awesome! You should come to the next North County meetup! Have you joined the mustangmacheclub.org/ ? - Liv

[@Msenlightened1]

I just bought the prem and love it!

[@MachE_VLOG]

Congratulations! Have you given it a name yet? - Liv

[@Msenlightened1]

@@MachE_VLOG Thanks! No. lol. Have you named yours?

[@thomaswilson2917]

You might consider not putting in an outlet as some chargers are hardwired and no outlet is needed. Also if you put in a outlet new codes require a ground fault breaker. Another thing to consider. Your car now has a CCS connector and all new vehicles from Ford will be using the Tesla plug. There are chargers that have both.. Built in CVS adapters for present vehicles and a Tesla plug for new vehicles.

[@leediddy9566]

Thinking about purchasing my 1st Ever vehicle..the Mach E…I have a new home and the garage is pre wired for EV usage..do you recommend the level 2 home charger from Ford..it’s listed at $799 ..or would u recommend one by a 3rd party..?

[@MachE_VLOG]

No need to go with Ford and it is pricey. I like the Emporia charger mentioned in the video and it is the one I have permanently installed.

[@leediddy9566]

@@MachE_VLOG ok thanks..I will look this one up…

[@lancastergerard]

Someone should make this video. ‘Get set up for 60 amp breaker, wired for 50 so you can go hardwired and charge at 48 amps instead of being limited to 40 plugged’. You’re future proofing

[@jacksondaniels8169]

Ok, I’m in San Diego as well and new to the EV vehicle community. Picking up our ME CA RT1 tomorrow. My question is, can these chargers be mounted outside near the panel? Lots of questions for an experienced EV owner. Offer you a Coffee(s) for your knowledge exchange. Thanks.

[@MachE_VLOG]

Yep, most chargers can be installed outdoors. Just check to make sure it is NEMA 4 rated in the description or manual. I would still try to keep it out of direct sunlight and a lot of rain if you can.

[@MachE_VLOG]

Congrats on your Mach-E btw! - Liv

[@jacksondaniels8169]

@MachE_VLOG Unfortunately, the Ford dealer in Escondido completely botched up the sale, so we walked away from the deal. First, they didn't have the car we wanted, so they worked a deal with another dealer. Had us sitting at the dealership for over 8 hours, so called trying to get the car. Nevertheless, we left expecting to pick up the car the following day after 1200 but NLT 2pm. I showed at 1130, and they still hadn't gotten the car. Another 6 hours later now the wife is there to pick me and and they show up with the car. To make matters worse, the dealer gave them a damaged car, and they thought we were not going to do a walk around where we found all the dents and deep scratches in the paint. During the waiting process, they tried so hard to pass the car off by wanting to deliver it to our home. Nonetheless, they would've gone back to the dealer anyway after we had found the damage. Avoid the Escondido Ford location, unprofessional in every matter.

[@MachE_VLOG]

@@jacksondaniels8169 On no! That is terrible! I'm sorry to hear that. I hope that you found something great from a different dealer!

[@jacksondaniels8169]

​@MachE_VLOG ​ Nope, we decided to wait until the 2025 model and the issue being resolved with the charging cable etc.

[@PeaceChanel]

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[@MargaretKoelmel-b5k]

How many ev cars do you own?

[@MachE_VLOG]

We technically only own one. We have the Mach-E and we're long-term borrowing a Leaf from a friend.

[@shaunmac3397]

Is it ok to charge to 100% with the level 2 charger that comes with the Mach E? Thanks in advance

[@MachE_VLOG]

Depends on your car. On extended range Mach-Es, it is better to only charge to 90% on a daily basis. It is OK to occasionally charger to 100% the night before a road trip. On standard range Mach-Es, the same thing applies unless it was built after min-2023. They have a different battery type called LFP. For those, you can charge to 100% anytime you want and you are encouraged to charge to 100% at least once per month.

[@rizocars6115]

so you recommend the plug over hardwired? thats crazy,

[@MachE_VLOG]

Nope. I said we use a plug but hardwired is better for most people. We review chargers and I don't want to rewire for every EVSE we review.

[@dubmob151]

Does anyone bench test the chargers before proceeding with the installation? Or are they reliable enough where it's just not necessary?

[@travlcub]

I had 3 estimates and the average was $3K. Fuse panel to garage 1000 feet. So using level 1 it’s surface also WFH

[@lancastergerard]

100 ft?

[@rejeanfelton2059]

Mach-e support 48 amps. That is what I've bee using for the last three years!

[@geetsippy8234]

Which charger you are using?

[@rejeanfelton2059]

@@geetsippy8234 Technove charger. 240V 48 amps.

[@johnridenour1345]

Love your channel, also check with your electrical provider. #MIN will offer a EV charger rebate.

[@mrdsn189]

Thank you!

[@MooTaters]

Ford recommends 100% around once a month on LFP for maintaining proper calculation of the battery percentage. LFP's have a lot less of a voltage droop over time and are more difficult to measure capacity. It's actually very bad to continually top off LFP batteries, you're better off keeping your charging range as low as possible if it's within reason for your usage... think up to 60% maybe. Put simply 75-100% is the worst percentage range to be charging them in.

[@nessiedestiny8252]

What I really want to see a price comparison off money spent on gasoline vs cost of electricity increase.

[@COVO25]

I recently went from a 2014 ford edge eco boost to a 2023 mach e gt and I’m saving between $0.12 and $0.14 per mile on fuel. Ford edge Gas ~ $3.60/gal Mpg ~ 22.22 highway $/mile ~ $0.162 Mach e Electric ~ $0.06 - $0.09/kWh MpkWh ~ 2.75 $/mile ~ $0.022 - $0.033 In reality I’m actually saving more because my estimates for the gas car are based on highway mileage. Now the economics are very dependent on the type of driving you do. If you mostly do a lot of highway driving the gas car will be more efficient because you’ll have to use a lot of paid chargers which are more expensive and take much longer than filling a gas tank. However, if you do a lot of city driving and make more use of the regen braking and charging at home, then you will save a lot of money compared to the gas car. Other things to note are the electric car doesn’t really have fluids to change (no oil or transmission) and with regen braking your brake pads and disks last forever. The biggest maintenance expense will be tires which degrade a little faster because of the weight

[@robmancebo2937]

we are having a ChargePoint home flex installed for $1200

[@lookatbronman4315]

Anyone having a problem with the Mach e not stopping on the set charge amount? Instead mine just goes to 100 even though it is set to 80

[@johnridenour1345]

How are you able to preset it?

[@RonBme]

Attention when it comes to ev chargers anything 40amps and higher please hard wire the the charger reason for this is because the charger will cause the plug to get hot and melt causing fire

[@dubmob151]

Chargers should implement a temperature monitor feature to cut off charge, using a thermistor or thermocouple attached to the vulnerable junction points. That's done with portable battery chargers, and should be easy enough to figure out how to do on the EVSE units.

[@MysticalMastodon]

Is this the Krusty Krab?

[@MachE_VLOG]

@@MysticalMastodon Yes.

[@lookatbronman4315]

Why does ford recommend 90 when every other ev is 80 max charge ?

[@lancastergerard]

Manufacturer built in buffers vary. Smaller buffer, charge lower %.

[@dubmob151]

Have to wonder just how accurate those charge percentages are anyway. It's not as simple as determining how much gas is left in the tank, and simple voltage measurement doesn't work.

[@patrick7228]

The battery degradation discussion that keeps happening is funny to me considering the average person keeps a car 6-8 years. I feel like this is going to be an issue for used car buyers but not new.

[@dubmob151]

Do used car buyers ever check battery health, and do they factor it into resale prices? Maybe that's a new category for used car valuation along with miles and paint condition. For the new car buyer, assuming they trade in a prior car rather than totalled it or something, it might concern them if the trade in gets less than what they wanted if the battery was not in optimum condition.

[@JimBronson]

Electrical wiring is not rocket science. If you're comfortable installing a NEMA 5-15P (standard US socket) to code, you can do your own EV outlet. I did my own with the Hubbell 14-50R outlet and Romex 6/3 as well as a 50A GFCI breaker and it's doing great, cool to the touch, no problems. The Ford charger only pulls 32A if you're using that, we may upgrade to hardwired in the future.

[@MachE_VLOG]

Most people aren't, so the best advice is to leave it to a licensed electrician. Many people don't even have the proper tools. I've even seen two outlets that were installed by electricians that shorted and melted.

[@JimBronson]

@@MachE_VLOG They will melt if you don't use an industrial rated plug like the Hubbell. The $11 Leviton NEMA 14-50 you get at Home Depot will melt, they are made for stoves, not EVs. For me, seeing that you saw some installed by an actual electrician that melted, further justifies DIY, IMO. At least, if you do hire an electrician, get someone who's done EVs before and knows what's up.

[@MachE_VLOG]

@@JimBronson It just illustrates that it is a dangerous thing to assume you know what you are doing. It might work but will it work safely for years and years. Do most people even have the tools or know how? No. They don't. I've done plenty of DIY electrical, but I don't need to mess with something like this. Heck, I just rewired a dozen outlets and a couple of switches in our house yesterday. It reminds me of people that would make DIY network cables. I can make a network cable that is reliable, but most people have far less luck. Those cables "work" but the have a lot of errors that the network can accommodate but actually slows things down. The cables even "test" perfectly on cheap testing equipment but when you use professional test equipment the issues are clear.

[@JimBronson]

@@MachE_VLOG Just to clarify, I know what I am doing, I learned from a master electrician, my grandfather. It's not my chosen vocation but I've done tons of work over the years. For the record, I worked network for 25 years in Network and now Cybersecurity, my 568-B cables always tested fine on the Fluke meter. I don't recommend electrical for everyone, but folks can learn it if they put in the time. What gets under my skin is when you pay through the nose for a real electrician and they do substandard work. That's why I almost never hire them unless I don't have the time to do it myself.

[@MachE_VLOG]

@@JimBronson That's awesome. Most people don't have that type of connection to a master electrician. I'd rather recommend that people hire someone than to assume that they can do it themselves because there replaced an electrical outlet in their house. Someone that is truly experienced will still go ahead and do it. But we hope to deter people from just "giving it a try." You wouldn't want us to just say, "It's easy! Just try it yourself and see what happens!"

[@skiittz2916]

"For the 2,3,4,5 years you have your mach e"....who tf keeps a car for that short period? I've never had a car for less than 10....

[@MachE_VLOG]

Up until the Mach-E, I've always owned a car for 10 years. But I know there are a lot of people that get new cars after 2, 3, 4, or 5 years. And with more people leasing the Mach-E instead of buying, that is probably very true with the Mach-E.

[@skiittz2916]

@@MachE_VLOG that's sad. They tried to convince me to lease mine. No thanks, not everything needs to run on subscription model.

[@MachE_VLOG]

@@skiittz2916 The reason that leasing is popular with many EVs is because they made the tax credits favor leasing. If I buy a 2024 Mach-E, I pay full price. If I lease one, I can get a $7,500 tax credit. It makes more sense to lease the Mach-E and many other EVs because of this.

[@skiittz2916]

@MachE_VLOG that is absolutely ridiculous. Why is the government pushing lease over purchase? Time to write some letters to those Washington scumbags.

[@dubmob151]

Government meddling? Who are the government officials responsible for these decisions to dole out and apportion tax funds?

[@bfredericks9086]

Bro... straighten up your garage.... you doing a youtube vid.

[@MachE_VLOG]

@@bfredericks9086 You gonna help?

[@dubmob151]

Some people spend more time cleaning than they do actually doing things, I guess.