Machine Guns vs.Tanks Full Battle Scene | Fury

[@markwoods3689]

what gets me about this scene is that the Germans are in a prepared, concealed position with several slow moving targets coming straight towards them and they miss most of their shots and the guy with the panzerfaust just waits when he is clearly in range. Suspension of disbelief!

[@benthelearner6104]

Exactly I was thinking the same thing... How could they missed...

[@mrtrek64]

Those guns were anti-aircraft being used for a different purpose. I would imagine it's quite difficult to get one of those aimed properly at a fast-moving tiny target. A Sherman tank must look like a dot at 300 yards so it doesn't surprise me their shots missed.

[@himoffthequakeroatbox4320]

@@mrtrek64 The one at 3:14 look like Pak 40s to me. As does 3:55 - rectangular recuperator below, rather than cylindrical ones over & under like the Flak 36/37 family.

[@dandorosheff256]

Agree! All thought depending on the year the skill level of the German soldier declined. However, If I recall the movie i don't think that has yet to come. German soldiers were highly trained and miss like those are hard to imagine.

[@markwoods3689]

@@himoffthequakeroatbox4320 I thought it was a pak40 too

[@biaohan4358]

It's so freaking funny that the panzerfaust guy stood up, holding the panzerfaust for literally 10 seconds, waiting to be killed without firing.

[@Altruist-ambitions]

Exactly

[@ogie4893]

I saw that!!!! He standed up for 10 seconds.

[@StudleyDuderight]

Stood* up

[@giampieronisi697]

Un film che non risponde alla verità dei fatti troppo filo americano di propaganda

[@jay_chang]

Combat snap shooting, the target will be up for 4 seconds and most soldiers will shoot it under 1 second, basically the time it takes for an enemy to pop up and take aim after 4 seconds you are already dead.

[@johnadams4951]

No German infantry is going to put their foxholes in front of a tree line out on a flat field. They would be inside the tree line.

[@riceeater2248]

Still lost tho

[@Draper1217]

At this stage of the war, they did a lot of unorthodox stuff usually commanded by 16 or 17 year old kids. Pickets we’re still a thing but the desperation of April of 45 by the Germans was very prevalent. My grandfather was wounded in the hurtgen forest when they tried to cross the rhine. It got pretty bad.

[@JuanCognito]

This film is utter fantasy. Bollocks from start to finish.

[@robertcampopiano6001]

@@JuanCognito, not according to the stories my ex-girlfriend’s late father told us. He was a Sherman gunner in the 4th Armored Division in Europe.

[@Dondingdingding]

Say hello to the battle of kursk

[@tc6818]

Through exhaustive genealogy research, experts have determined that the Germans operating those anti-tank guns are ancestors of all stormtroopers in the universe.

[@AlexarAceplays]

clearly

[@ChuckyMaster]

yep is ok to miss one shot, it may happen, but the second is very unlikely to miss the big target

[@breadmey1097]

well considering that the soldiers are just civilians that havent received much training, are inexperienced and most likely the equipment was not good quality as at this time nazi industry was on its arse its pretty reasonable to assume that they wont be very accurate

[@331SVTCobra]

@@breadmey1097 Um... no. The stormtrooper ancestry is more likely.

[@breadmey1097]

@@331SVTCobra 🤓

[@parvizhamidov1078]

In the middle of the battle, Gordo saying: "Hey, start shooting." "How do you know they're dead? Are you a doctor?" This is best line😂

[@jaredmello]

Guy was right, some would say f it and play possum and try to blow themselves up and take a few with them

[@rickyboy6390]

Who knows the enemy might be playing dead or still alive nut injured from the shoot

[@sebastian3004]

That fucking dumbass irritates me like that stupid dude (upham) in Saving private Ryan. I am sure they made his character intentionally to piss people off.

[@brianjones9780]

@@jaredmello or just surrender. Still better not to take chances.

[@ReKP_]

​@@brianjones9780 if you surrender, there's a good chance they will kill you still or torture you before eliminating you. You have to remember that you're part of the army that is ending their comrade's life. Surrendering is almost always out of the option.

[@JohnMotamed]

Historians say US lost almost 5000 Shermans in western front. Just because Brad wasn't born yet! Those PAK 42s were capable of knocking out any tank from over a mile, here they can't hit a stationary Sherman from 200 meters!

[@dinochookproductions5190]

Those were pak40s, I believe the pak42 was never a standalone anti tank gun. Also over 1km it would struggle against churchill 7s and Sherman jumbos.

[@JohnMotamed]

@@dinochookproductions5190 PAK 42 had a longer barrel. its barrel was 70 cm longer than PAK 40s barrel. PAK is abbreviation for PanzerAbwehrKanone which means anti tank gun. The gun was same as KwK 42 tank guns which were mounted on Panthers. They could breach up to 170 mm of armor from 1500m. Sherman with maximum armor of 88mm (gun shield) was a little kitty for this gun!

[@dinochookproductions5190]

@@JohnMotamed The Pak42 was never built as a towable ATG, it was only mounted on the panther and jagdpanzer, so the ATGS featured in this clip are the Pak40. Also, the Sherman Jumbo had much thicker armour than 88mm, meaning it could resist tiger and panther shells at range

[@RussellWeaver-p5p]

For every month of the war from June 6th 1944, to May 8th, 1945, the U. S. Army lost the equivalent of an entire armoured divisions worth of M3 Sherman tanks, during the fighting in Normandy, so many tanks were lost, that the army ran out of trained tankers, and used infantry in their place. They were given 3 rounds to train with, and then sent out to face the 1st Waffen S. S. Pzr Korps, needless to say, few if any, survived!

[@SirCheezersIII]

PAK 42s...sir, how much did you have to drink this evening?

[@darkySp]

3:25 I can't stop geeking out about how good the sound design in this shot is

[@Savagehunter21]

3:29

[@darkySp]

​@@Savagehunter21 But you miss the shot!

[@Omaklemm]

The weapon was effective against almost every Allied tank until the end of the war, only struggling to penetrate heavier vehicles like the Russian IS tanks, the American M4A3E2 Sherman 'Jumbo' assault tank and M26 Pershing[a], and later variants of the British Churchill tank. The Pak 40 was much heavier than the Pak 38; its decreased mobility meant that it was difficult or even impossible to move without an artillery tractor on boggy ground.

[@lizardo667]

@@Christmas-bw8hbYup. The a mark. But it doesn’t really matter cause everyone does tbh

[@biaohan4358]

If they had enough tungsten to make AP rounds it could have worked better.

[@Omaklemm]

@@Christmas-bw8hb no Dushbagwiki.

[@XandateOfHeaven]

See the way people talk about the Pak 40 and Pak 38, and how they could destroy any allied tank, that's actually pretty standard for any late war anti-tank gun. The American 90 mm was at least as effective.

[@MrChickennugget360]

but not at 1,000 meters which they call out in the movie.

[@forlorndream1400]

My dad volunteered for the British Army in 1939 aged 19. He fought in North Africa, Italy, Holland, France and finally Germany though he wasn't part of the D Day landings. He came through it all without a scratch on him. Only once dad spoke to me about that time in his life, it was just after I enlisted and he was quite drunk. When I asked him all he said was, I was lucky, plenty of men better than me didn't survive. I didn't ask him again.

[@anthonyharrison3343]

A very brave man. Respect and admiration of the highest order for him. What a lucky man you are to have a father like that.

[@brandongensel7440]

Incredibly brave man your dad is, nothing g but the highest respect for him and those like him that survived a war like that. My dad would tell me the stories of his grandfather that fought in WW2 and the stories I'd hear had my jaws on the floor. Thank you both for you're service🇺🇸

[@jonathanwalker8730]

My grandfathers barely uttered a word about their involvement in WW2 but from the few that they uttered I know they experienced some pretty unpleasant things. Respect to your father's honesty and humbleness.

[@bowieupland6112]

If he saw London now, I bet he would question his involvement.

[@ColvyMolvy]

We were never allowed to ask our great grandfather what happened in his time in the war. Only person he talked to about it was great grandma and that was when they were younger. I remember thinking it sucked when I was a kid, not hearing war stories, but now being older, I get it.

[@richardwarner3705]

One of the best lines in the movie..."How do you know, are you a Doctor"!

[@dennisyoung4631]

“Make certain they’re dead. *If they’re not in multiple pieces - make them so.* Then they won’t kill you.”

[@almighty3372]

The one quote I remember most was "Ideals are peaceful, history is violent!‘’ That was a sad quote....but very true....

[@User-sb6er]

Best quote: what do I shoot at? The nazis you dumb f#ck...😅😅😅

[@hello7032]

@@almighty3372it’s kind of a dumb quote tbh. One of those “sounds cool when you first hear it but if you think about it for 2 minutes, it’s dumb”

[@keeganwatts1199]

my favorite is “she’ll let you fuck her for a chocolate bar”

[@stinkyham9050]

Fun fact, this scene was actually based on security footage from a Wal-Mart in Texas during a Black Friday opening.

[@MRM1802]

I got myself a blender.

[@darthderp8066]

@@MRM1802and lost 50,000 men in a blink on an eye

[@ledhed5717]

As a Texan I can vouch for that.

[@ma3stro681]

Not enough racial diversity for that … 😂

[@chapmasi]

You don't watch Fury for historical or battlefield accuracy

[@Ionizap]

I love this but you could write a book on how many things are wrong. It's fun to watch and I do often. Can you imagine assaulting a portion with tanks and commander is unbuttoned,

[@filmography3930]

Nazi sympathizers do.

[@aaroncowles2504]

I do not watch FURY at ALL - made the mistake of actually buying the DVD and then realized just how incredibly BAD it was - broke the disc into pieces and into burn pit it went

[@IamScoHo]

For some of us, a bit more accuracy would help. When I watch those ridiculous walkers in the Star Wars movies, I accept it as part of the fantasy. Clear fallacy in combat tactics and reality in this movie are hard to ignore because there's tons of reference. I sat in the theatre going, 'You've got to be kidding me!'.

[@dmac2168]

IKR. You watch it for: "Murica!! Fuck yeah!! Here to save the mother fucking day!!!"

[@dannyhoward3437]

The tactics in this movie are certainly arguable, but they definitely captured the feeling of early ‘45.

[@y2bgenie438]

"Its just a ricochet,we are good" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheJMBon]

The plot armor on the US tanks is amazingly effective.

[@youamazing41]

No it isn't lol

[@kylegonzalez5842]

@@youamazing41plot armor is a movie reference its basically when the protagonist never gets hit even tho its obvious that they would. Like if storm troopers could hit targets the dark side woulda won

[@furymaster8139]

In the next scene 3 out of 4 got destroyed and the fury one got busted so… plot armor my ass 😅

[@TaiTran-nm3xo]

A moving Sherman is more accurate than a stable TD, bravooooo

[@0lionheart]

First, they missed a ton of shots. Second, they had stabilisers. They could fire on the move pretty well

[@belgianfried]

​@@0lionheart Stabilisers worked at low speed, which they were moving at. But bumps still mess up your sight views, it's often blurry and shaky.

[@TaiTran-nm3xo]

@@0lionheart Ger TD even did not move

[@avisdunrandom]

The only explanation will be, it's 1945 most of German were Young lad (15-18),old man or wounded since most of the veteran or men were send to the main battlefield, the east against URSS.

[@TheMaineMeta]

4:33 When I saw this scene in theaters I immediately fell in love with it and this movie. The front tank shot lasts only about a second or so but even that was enough to cement it as my favorite scene in the movie

[@frost3193]

Pitt should do more in military movies. He was good in Fury and Inglorious Basterds.

[@jadeorbigoso5212]

don't forget allied

[@LITTLE1994]

I agree

[@dzgamingyt5316]

😂

[@massformationpsychosis7681]

Even better in Troy.

[@TraderRobin]

I agree, he was very good in Fury!

[@VincentK.McMahon]

There’s so many things wrong with this scene 😂 pure entertainment

[@keithad6485]

Hollywood fiction. No real tank crew goes into a two way firing range with the hatches open. Just asking for the entire crew to be wiped out. From a retired armoured corps soldier

[@monkeyseemonkeydo1794]

8:08 “I promised my crew I’d keep them alive”. Proceed in a suicide mission 😅

[@ЮрийНехимчук]

Nazi WW2 panzerfaust user manual (apparently) 1. Ready the weapon while in a trench. 2. When enemy tanks draw near stand up with weapon on the ready 3. Wait till enemy tank shoots you with it's mashine guns 4. If a tank does'nt shoot you for some reason retreat back into the trench and wait for the next one.

[@ajithkumar.s597]

😅

[@brianjones9780]

At that time in the war in 1945, the remaining Wehrmacht was mostly made of whoever wasn't good enough to participate in Operation Barbarossa, essentially a militia made of draftees headed by veterans made officers. Germany had thrown millions of troops into Russia to get turned into ground meat. You'd find veteran troops on the western front, but the average German soldier by that point was the shaky librarian thrown on the front, or a literal boy. That guy with the panzerfaust was probably just as paralyzed as the A. Gunner character Machine in the movie. Not everyone is prepared for war just because you gave them a weapon and a helmet.

[@rawgab4439]

@@brianjones9780 Yeeaaahhh. ...tell my Grandpa ;))

[@woodrowwwilson9540]

Yet we won the war… explain that loser

[@zylothecat7449]

@@brianjones9780 that person would have surrendered. 5:07 - 5:12 ~ 5 seconds and still couldn't pull the trigger. also this is what rambo does except rambo has anti bullet aura where bullets curve around his body. (or) a Skyrim NPC. Tank? oh must have been the wind.

[@ilphi08]

This movie's accuracy is as good as German soldiers' aim in this scene

[@User-sb6er]

Even saving private Ryan had its issues.

[@justepic7279]

never heard of recoil?

[@ilphi08]

@@justepic7279Recoil wasn't the problem The problem was german soldiers can't hit anything, but the americans often did

[@0lionheart]

@@ilphi08 people would be genuinely surprised if they read actual battle statistics and saw how much ammo was expended per confirmed kill, real war isn't a video game, people miss an awful lot. Point two; veteran American units against kids and old men. This isn't the same German army that stormed Poland, or guarded the beaches of Normandy. All those guys are dead. They're fighting what's left, i.e all the people the army wouldn't take before, but now is throwing a helmet on and saying "good luck"

[@keithad6485]

Hollywood fiction

[@alexland8338]

Theres no way, that two concealed anti-tank guns, waiting in a prepared position, would miss every shot on those slow moving tanks. I mean come on.

[@jpollard1984]

By that point in the war, weren’t a lot of the barrels on the 88’s all wore out? Due to decreasing numbers of soldiers and replacement barrels. I’ve heard said, in some interviews and what not, German veterans say some of those guns were almost impossible to aim due to them falling into disrepair and unable to be serviced. I could be wrong though, I can’t remember where I read those interviews.

[@retrodripsupport7510]

Yeah this movie is pretty bad with the battle scenes. Not realistic whatsoever. And apparently every round of a machine gun looks like a light beam firing. According to the producers a slow moving tank is as elusive as a squirrel

[@WizzRacing]

They were not veterans. They were new conscripts. As the Germans started recruiting kids by this time. Why it's not the weapon. It's the people using it that counts.

[@daviscampbell9020]

They had to many schnapps.

[@mrg4388]

No schet Sherlock

[@alibabaei1953]

I really appreciate this movie not being written by a couple of teenagers and dialogues being cheesy and cringy. i read they actually consulted with historians to make it appear as real as possible. its really a good movie

[@55tranquility]

This film does a great job of representing the absolute misery and drudgery of war the whole atmosphere and the soldiers worn down and depleted but still getting on with the job they had to do. its not a gung ho celebration of action but brave men doing the job they had to do when they wish they were a million miles away, instead of seeing their comrades butchered. It is outstanding what these men were put through, conscripted and thrown into carnage - it shows the real bravery of continuing on when faced with such misery on a daily basis, day in and day out when you could lose your life at any minute.

[@nmurthy2830]

Well said.

[@matthewcaughey8898]

A good soldier isn’t made in a day, anyone who’s good at their job took a lot more then a day to be good at their craft

[@LegioPatriaNostra182]

Once General Patton, a great and uncompromising military commander, said that war was simple and cruel. People who are equally simple and cruel should fight in the war.

[@alvinmorris5404]

Yes Patton was truly a great leader and a legend in his own right.

[@mrmakhno3030]

​@@alvinmorris5404a true leader that violently abused his soldier so much that Eishenhower became mad about him.

[@Mutrunalle]

Seven or eight seconds and still cant fire panzerfaust 😂 probably would have missed anyway 😂

[@ericdew2021]

Maybe it's because they were stormtroopers.

[@ArchTeryx00]

To be fair he was lining up against the FRONT of the tank, where the armor is heaviest. Panzerfausts were meant for side or rear attacks. You could penetrate from the front but had to hit just the right spot. (Note that the kid with the Panzerfaust earlier in the movie hit the tank from the side).

[@MrFraglesnorf]

Wouldnt have penetrated the front hull of that particular tank anyway. Any of the others and it would have been plausible to be dangerous but not the "fury"

[@mesutsarp2024]

@@MrFraglesnorf En önemli yeri kaçırıyorsunuz . Benim incelemem göre bütün almanların aynı anda saldırması gerekirdi . dikkat ederseniz sırayla saldırıyorlar bu çok yanlış karşı taraf toplu saldırıyor . birde makınelı tüfek mevzisi öyle meydanda olmaz gizlenmesi gerekir .

[@himoffthequakeroatbox4320]

By 1944 they'd lost a lot of experienced troops. And when you're losing your new recruits don't survive long enough to become experienced.

[@guerropeuto801]

Moving forward talking and communicating between tanks was actually really realistic.

[@timwingham8952]

If you read written accounts of British tank crews, they would routinely "brass up" any hedgerow or tree line with machine gun fire. They would not wait for fire to come to them first. It's also highly questionable that one anti tank gun would be taken out and then a ceasefire order given. If the tree line held one gun, it probably did (as here) hold more. However, as a film displaying the horror of tank war it does a pretty good job. Climbing into a tank and going to war takes a special kind of bravery. I salute them all.

[@robertflint4115]

Great movie and new respect for Brad Pitt as an actor. What's wrong with the movie is about half the tactics. There was a military expert and veteran on set to advise but the director chose not to listen, because the real way wasn't flashy enough.

[@phlip889]

The real way wasn't flashy enough.--------- 適用於所有的戰爭電影。 Tous les films de guerre se ressemblent.

[@edderz101]

Its a shame because the real way is much more interesting to watch. Its part of the reason band of brothers and the pacific are so highly acclaimed, they are much more grounded in reality.

[@snickle1980]

I was just about to say something similar. Mass appeal. It's often what separates a fun popcorn movie from an award winning film. @@edderz101

[@luispena5676]

Great movie? Are you insane? The only good thing was they used a real Tiger I on screen! But for what? To film a bad Star Wars sequence with laser blasts and bad trained stormtroopers?

[@eland86]

​@@luispena5676 the movie had it flaws, but most people complain about poor training of german soldiers, while movie takes place in april '45 when german filling their ranks with children and oldmen and runs "Primitiv-Waffen Programm" to barely arm them, and "lasers", which are regular tracer shots, everyone can see them in real life by googling "vietnam night war" or "Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot".

[@keithad6485]

To knock out a tank, requires two kills - mobility kill and gun kill. a tank with disabled track, though no longer mobile, is still capable for shooting back, a tank with a gun knocked out is still mobile and the tank itself is a weapon against infantry and can drive over them, infantry with tanks coming straight for them, will typically scatter. And need to change their underwear. Counter Ambush drill for a tank troop is to turn towards the ambushers and drive through them guns firing then regroup then turn around and drive over the ambushers again. We practiced and practiced this. From a retired armoured corps soldier. This movie is fanciful and silly.

[@fhhfgj]

I love when people think this is accurate. 90% Hollywood 10% reality.

[@harrybarr8741]

I love when people think that they're a fucking expert at military tactics for knowing that this movie isn't accurate

[@eagerlawncare3700]

It's very accurate .. it just several tank stories roll together

[@DavidSandoval-pv5pu]

Thanks you just ruined the movie for me!

[@TheDaverobinson]

@@harrybarr8741 you don’t have to be a tank expert to see standard American nonsense

[@TheanswerzYES]

87% of all statistics are made up don't ya know.

[@jimjohnston5092]

Years ago, I asked my uncle, who fought in Europe, what he did in the war. His answer: "I was there." That was the end of the story.

[@blahblah2779]

That means he was a clerk

[@jimjohnston5092]

I learned more from my aunt than from him and this much I know - he was no clerk. He was in Patton's third army. I had another uncle who did the island hopping in the Pacific with the Marines and you couldn't get him to say a single word about it. I know the action he was in from my cousin. He was lucky to be alive and in one piece. This was the generation of men and women who answered the call, went out and got the job done, came home, and got on with their lives. @@blahblah2779

[@alvinmorris5404]

​​@@blahblah2779no that means he DID NOT WANT to talk about it my dad was in a m4 crew and he like a lot of other combat veterans had moments that they would talk about things that happened still others that would never say anything even as they were dying. Many veterans who saw the movie saving private Ryan broke down and wept uncontrollably because it was so much like the real thing and many who had been silent for decades started talking about what they experienced.

[@brandonbulloch4040]

2:25, driver must of been on the phone like most are today Get your head out of your ass 😂

[@donny8619]

Guys guys this whole situation is easily explainable. They were playing on recruit. If it had been on veteran then the video would’ve been only 2 minutes long with a game over screen at the end

[@AubreySartoris-fk9lf]

4:47 my favorite line in this movie i swear

[@dannygunsix]

They need to make a sequel to FURY. Part two. After the cross roads and looking for trouble. Same crew. Brad Pitt made an excellent tank Commander. His crew were perfect in their roles...

[@sloht4061]

The part with them talking about the miles and miles of dead germans and having to kill the horses.

[@chrisd7803]

Apart from the fact all except one died in this movie. And it was the most unrealistic bullshit put to film

[@indyfist9466]

@@chrisd7803 prolly never even been on a tank before have u

[@Anson22]

This time must be one T26E4 destroying an entire panzer battalion😆

[@Smoerni]

​@@indyfist9466 Why does that even matter, if he hasn´t?

[@KhaizerRecovers]

concealed and well positioned german unit with anti-tanks and heavy weaponry hard to believe the americans could have defeated that if this wasn't a movie.

[@selfdo]

The Captain (Jason Issacs) should have been leading the attack to rescue his men pinned down. Also, if they know the Germans are at the tree line, why not at least rain mortar bombs on them, or call in an artillery strike? You don't send in a couple of infantry platoons to do what fifty or so 105 mm HE shells can accomplish.

[@jamesclancy8091]

Open a history book.

[@williambefort5327]

You miss the point. This first combat sequence is instructional. It's intended to draw the audience a schematic diagram of why the WW2 Army had tanks in the first place, and what role armored vehicles were supposed to play in combat. So they show it all at reduced scale, like models on a tabletop. If it were more "realistic," it would be too sprawling and confused. Anyhow, the Germans eventually get their licks in, so be patient. If this were not a movie, there'd probably be more than one lone survivor from this tank platoon at the end of it.

[@matthewjones39]

@@williambefort5327I see you watch KZbin as well.

[@alexbattaglia8297]

i mean... the americans did win

[@gabecornwell182]

2:30, me in traffic for maybe 1 minute

[@therant311]

3:07 The most realistic shot of the human body eating a sherman round depicted in a movie

[@mellowrose9470]

All the tanks firing at the same time,would be a scary sight to see

[@skyexplores]

Some say those German gunners ancestors were Storm Troopers in a galaxy far far away. Or the heavy plot armor on the American tanks protected them. In reality most would've been destroyed

[@noahvcat9855]

Looking back at this scene, I can see how often for most nations, 3 to 4 tanks is probably the most any tank commander is able to command in detail like there is so much going on with friendly troops surrounding you, some of which are on the ground and cant move, you have to mind your spacing and maintain the same speed for all tanks in order to also provide cover for the troops moving from the rear and this is all just to maintain a *SIMPLE* line of tanks moving slowly, all while under the potential threat of enemy fire too. With the work load almost so much it does make sense for some nations like if I remember it was either some british or russian tank crews where they have a dedicated radio operator whose only sole job and purpose is to man the radio, also back then since radio technology was still fairly new so often the radio would go off the frequency you were on so you had to adjust it often.

[@matthewjones39]

A tank commander commands one tank

[@stonep11]

For the time, this would be roughly a platoon, so Pitt is acting sort of like a platoon leader here, each guy like him in the tank is the individual tank commander, Pitt is doing both jobs.

[@CedricEA]

3:27 gives me eargasm

[@Bbfishman]

i feel like this movie doesnt get the credit it deserves. like most of these war movies the main characters have plot armor, but luckily most people (including me) dont know enough about the strategy and capabilities of a realistic tank battle, so i feel like its done is a decent enough way to pull it off.

[@NaturalLanguageLearning]

I've seen Steven Seagal movies with more realistic battle scenes

[@EldeLDorELLEN]

It’s what Hollywood does these days

[@NewmaticKe]

No you've not

[@beardedchimp]

@@NewmaticKe Steven Seagal films are extremely historically accurate. The historian @SpaceIce covers the impressive attention to detail and realism.

[@fredmeyer369]

This entire scene reminds me of someone playing Call of Duty Single Player mission. Pretty much the only thing here that was authentic is probably the sherman tanks and some of the soldiers guns. Favorite part is when Brad tells the soldiers to get involved and they run from behind the tank and begin to hip fire. That's classic Call of Duty single player missions!

[@totoblaubar8393]

Reality: Both experienced PAK40 crews destroying 2 Sherman’s with their first rounds. US troops retreat, calling in an airstrike. Meanwhile the Germans are using the break until the airplanes arrive to change positions. Airstrikes hits the reported positions but fails, no.causalities. Second US attack, same thing, same outcome. Until the Germans run out of anti tank ammo and their positions are overrun by the US. But the Germans are gone, they left the wounded behind. The wounded were covering the retreat of the main battle force as long as possible. The left overs of the German battle force waiting in a backup position a few miles behind for the next fight. This is what my grandfather reported about fighting US troops.

[@csrboltfan2643]

And yet the Germans STILL lost and their country got split in two with half being under Soviet rule. Did your grandfather remember to tell you that? That's the TRUE reality.

[@kyleshockley1573]

@@csrboltfan2643 He's just telling you the tactics. The overall strategy from the politicos up above can be complete shit (the Soviets proved this even before the war started - Stalin beheading ~80% of the higher ranks of the Red Army and completely ignoring the intel given to him, these arguably allowed Russia to be as overrun in the opening days of Barbarossa as it was), but the tactical moves from the officer corps and the boots on the ground can be extremely solid. Both sides proved this to be correct in different ways.

[@freppie_]

@@kyleshockley1573 Stalin did what he was ordered to do

[@kyleshockley1573]

@@freppie_ Well, Satan does have his reach, don't he.

[@Micha-qv5uf]

@@kyleshockley1573 Comparing Germany with Russia is like comparing apples with unicorns that are shitting gummi baers with wodka taste. If the western front didn't happen, Russia wouldn't exist today. Most useless Military and culture of human history as they are proving once again nowadays.

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

Tank guy: Fight on foot I feel like... no.

[@athentictide0186]

People saying this is unrealistic: remember you have to prep the panzerfaust which takes about 2 seconds and you have to aim it at a spot that will do damage to the tank keep in mind the tank is a moving target. If you notice at 5:07 he does not have the sight flipped up, meaning the warhead is not primed, when the perspective is switched you can see the sight now flipped up meaning it is primed. At that point he is now getting shot at with a .50 which human instinct will shy away from for survival, allowing him to not effectively aim. Also, this movie was loosely based on the story of Audie Murphy, so read up on that before you call anything unrealistic. TL;DR bro forgot to prime his launcher, the true story is way more unrealistic

[@johnwestervelt3293]

On top of that not everyone is built for war and able to process mentally what to do right on the spot. It takes a lot of mental preperation and fortitude to be a killing machine. People are still people. We get to sit back and watch from another perspective so of course we will make a better decision than someone in the shit.

[@keeganrath8971]

That’s not the reason this is unrealistic. It’s because the machine gun crew was setup right in the open and somehow the pak guns managed to miss every shot. Just bs

[@JB-yb4wn]

@@keeganrath8971 You mean the Pak guns manned by the same people who massacred the first wave of ordinance the Yanks threw at them? The very same guys who, because of their shooting, stranded a bunch of GIs, that Fury and co. were called out to rescue? We talking about those Pak guns that for some unfathomable reason can't shoot straight? Yeah, total BS, those tanks would have been smoked as well.

[@cyberslick18]

This movie is famously bad for its strategic accuracy. Like, literally everything about it is stupid.

[@efreitorsroul9332]

oh, and the two AT guns not being able to hit a tank at 500 meters, while tanks shoot at the forest and hit them instantly. That is real for you?

[@CybershamanX]

(4:35) Notice that when all of the tanks start firing their machine guns...Norman's gun is mysteriously silent...

[@jaredkaiser3097]

Ah, the good 'ol 'everyone shoot one at a time' method. A time tested tactic of many defeated armies throughout history. That's how I'd do it....

[@himoffthequakeroatbox4320]

I've seen higher rates of fire from trebuchets.

[@3thxnn._]

What I like about this movie is that they made the firing look like lasers from Star Wars

[@Great_Sandwich]

They didn't "make it look" that way. That's what tracer rounds look like.

[@jonathanwalker8730]

You do know that's tracer, right?

[@WolfWithAMelon]

Tracer rounds mixed in with regular rounds so they know where they are hitting

[@jamesb6402]

That ain't Star Wars son....that's tracers...

[@3thxnn._]

kk bros i didnt know

[@freddym99]

The germans were feared professionals and the US lost about 5000 tanks in france. Yet somehow these two Pak 40/42s, together with several infantrymen in a fortified treeline couldnt hit 4 very slow moving tanks coming right at them.

[@Boxmediaphile]

Worse thing is the real Wardaddy and In the Mood have such an awesome story

[@JacquelineJamroz]

Modern telephone lines at 1:15 😂

[@nitin6019]

Electric grid not telephone lines

[@ReconmissionFFWR]

There is a lot of veterans, historians and tankers in the comments damn I am sure blessed to be in the presence of such enlightened individuals

[@cosimopastia8389]

German soldiers are dramatically ineffective in this movie, that guy with the bazooka should have fired 10 seconds earlier.

[@dantay8763]

German soldiers at this point are likely inexperienced young people or old men, the actual fighting age troops all go absolutely swept by the Red Army.

[@guts-141]

By the angle it looked like he was waiting to hit the side of the Sherman which is a weaker spot compared to the frontal sloped armor but they should've made him shot the Panzerfaust and watch it bounced before getting hit by the Coax

[@집게발발]

This heroic story was based on what happened really during Korean Civil war(1950~1953), not European area. His name was Seargent Ernest R. Kouma

[@andymiller6661]

*Sergeant

[@adrianbeckmann3778]

Seeing all this death, even though it's in a movie just makes me sad.

[@if6was929]

All I could think of is how much war sucks.

[@toAdmiller]

It is depressing that for all our intelligence, our progress, and our desire for peace that we often STILL can't do better than war...humanity needs to evolve better brains...

[@LITTLE1994]

Blame it on the actual WWII.

[@AlskinsX1-9]

Same thing is going on in the ukraine russian war now. Now thats sad.

[@serialseatsniffer5610]

Get some

[@sifuhotman1300]

Always sad to see World War 2 movies breaking the immersion by letting people use dumb tactics never used.

[@keithad6485]

A silly movie, so much wrong. for instance, no competent tank crew enters a two way firing range with the hatches open, just asking for the entire crew to be wiped out. From a retired armoured corps soldier. When we were live firing, even in practice, we were always hatches locked closed.

[@jenniferstewarts4851]

note, only 1 light machine gun firing.. straight. machineguns were almost NEVER placed in the center, they would be placed on the flanks. so they could criss cross fire. If you look at the german "Hedgerow defense" the US has to completely change their tactics for dealing with this. US lost 49 tanks and 800 men very quickly and by the end of the advance just 6 days later the US had lost 109 Shermans, and dozens of light tanks and tank destroyers.

[@carlosfuentes7945]

I'll watch this movie again.

[@tedthesailor172]

Great visual effects ands story-telling even if technical nonsense...

[@hifriends3607]

Wonderful war movie ☀🙏☀

[@beluga_fan_x]

German artillery soldier said fire! 😆

[@quietus13]

That's how you say fire in German. "Feuer", pronounced similarly. English is a Germanic language and there are many cognates. "Feuer Frei" was a common command, literally translating to "fire freely" and corresponding to the English command "open fire" or "fire at will"

[@guardsmanom134]

As was "Loosch" pronounced 'loess'. The command for firing artillery and Panzerfaust, translating literally to "Loose". The British command for volley fire.

[@sabyasachihowlader2317]

4:38 goosebumps 🔥 All guns are firing.

[@remy1234ish]

The comments on this are interesting. They are mostly from people who are sitting in a warm chair looking at a war movie, saying how easy it would be to hit something. Remember, guys, a hell of a lot more ammo misses than ever hits anything (better in this day of drones and radar guided stuff, but even that misses at times). My dad once went deer hunting and, after daylight, decided he was ready to leave the woods, not having seen anything. He slid down off the big rock he had been lying on, having unloaded his lever action .30-.30. He came down face to face with a deer about 30 yards away, calmly looking at him. With shaking hands, he quickly reloaded the rifle(tube magazine, 5 rounds), cocked and fired. And again. And again. 5 times. The deer stood looking at him then slowly walked away. And it wasnt even shooting back. Trembling hands in the terror of combat only have to move a rifle or a gun a fraction of an inch at barrels' end to send the round flying feet above or below the target.

[@Luka2000_]

🤓

[@JamesGardner-lr3ro]

I agree..a shaking hand at 1000 yards even a quarter inch means a miss..never mind a rough ride...don't know hit to miss ratio ...much more missing than hitting

[@mrmakhno3030]

Lol my father is a former artillery officer.He watched this and said there's no way to miss a shot from that distance with anti tank gun, which is very ,very accurate in directed fire.

[@KenzongLepcha-lm3kq]

The movie would be okay but if this was the case but the fact that ticks me off is that the shermans seem to never miss and are almost impenetrable but the pak 40's are missing like they're being operated by three Joe bidens

[@westrim]

@@mrmakhno3030 Unless the barrels long since worn down, but still in use for lack of replacements.

[@anglingpassion5039]

Great movie well acted

[@mhadi5220]

Sound prefect!.. crazy job done well!

[@carloslennox]

All those tanks would've been knocked out two times over if there were two pak-40's in the treeline...😂😂😂😂😂 Damn Hollywood is making Americans dumber with every movie.

[@XanderPhoenix69]

wanna talk about the plot armor of the fury tank in the tiger fight?

[@alking4153]

At that point in the war just how well trained were the anti tank gunner's or combat tested probably never faced tank's and a miss is to be expected with thrown together unit's at that stage of the war.

[@sluggie1018]

​@@alking4153 actually they were well trained enough even then, and it's not that hard to use them (source: I was in anti tank/artillery company). They aren't like fighter pilots or tank crews who need experience to excel.

[@NewmaticKe]

88s

[@07foxmulder]

What’s dumb is expecting 100% authenticity in an action movie. This is made for entertainment, not a history lesson.

[@wyomingptt]

Wow they really are going for a gritty, realistic vibe in the new Star Wars movie!

[@chrisburns4297]

Lots of soldiers have missed their enemy throughout history even when the target was apparently an easy hit. Most people don't want to kill others even when their own lives are in danger. Also, few can shoot accurately when they are under fire.

[@davidkleinman5002]

Got no problem shooting others or staying calm while others shot at me...people who did were called civillians....save your 3rd rate psychology for gender studies students not veterans...

[@callaghandevYoutube]

I don't know how true this is. I think war is a confusing place, people miss because they are stressed, and because they don't want to blue on blue. But more than that gun shots are loud, like really loud.When you fire your gun it is loud even compared to all the gun fire going on around you. People in that moment of unimaginable stress don't want to make themselves a target,. Firing the loudest gun will certainly do that. For them, in that moment with all the adrenaline fucking with their brain, their own gun is the loudest gun, (its going off right next to their head). It's only when you start firing a number of shots that lose an ability to differentiate the sound of your gun and anyone else's, at which point believe me, you keep firing, at this point the reverse is true, and someone might need a physical prompt a push or a hard shove to stop firing. What there certainly isn't; is any empathy for anyone except your brothers around you. You might have before, you may even after. But in that moment, you are trying to survive, and keep those around you alive. It's true people often don't fire their gun, but its not because "they don't want to kill others". It's misguided lizard brain self preservation that kicks in. People only believe this compassionate view of others because it comforts them, its a world view that is more palatable than the alternative. Unfortunately its wrong.

[@callaghandevYoutube]

​@billypribbo9668 They fire at the enemy, because they want the threat gone. The fire “into the air” thing, isn’t true. I can understand why someone might come to that conclusion. It does happen, when the personal threat is so miniscule or what you could be talking about is covering fire possibly? But in a firefight you fire in the direction of the enemy, and believe me they are hoping your bullets hit and stop the enemy for good. But also, think about it; Every bullet you fire decreases you’re ability to stop a new threat when it arrives. To waste them on the off chance you might “scare” an enemy would be negligent to your brothers besides you. I just think the way you are framing what you say is a very hard cope. You want people to behave in a certain way even in the worst conditions because it makes you feel better, but I am afraid it simply isn’t true. In those high tension moments, you really arnt doing an empathetic calculation about the enemies personal circumstances. You are simply responding to stimuli. It’s not even that you are thinking in terms of hatred towards the enemy, those emotions come after. In that moment, you just want the threat gone, and you don’t take chances with yourself or the men you are fighting with. It is neither good or bad, it is just human.

[@SymbolicLogic24]

"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making some other poor dumb bastard die for his country." - General Patton

[@michaelmeadows4883]

I've heard this is why they use shooting squads and not a single executioner. You can have that extra benefit of the doubt that your gun had the blank in it and you didn't really kill someone.

[@Obscura-pg1mk]

I became a gun owner and fairly knowledgeable so a lot of things in movies irk me just a bit, so I get it. Thankfully in high school I failed WW2 Tank Deployment, Operation, and Strategy class so I can still enjoy this movie.

[@debaser_666]

Now we know what G.I. Joe combat looked like against Cobra. Nice laser show.

[@jdee8407]

Those were tracers and one of the few thing that were accurate here.

[@mrmakhno3030]

​@@jdee8407also inaccurate. They are using tracer with unusual ratio, 50% of the belt are tracer. In real life tracer only take 20-25% of the belt.

[@jdee8407]

@@mrmakhno3030 In real life soldiers are sometimes too lazy to load that ratio.

[@tomaszsadowski1515]

Thanks for best sound.

[@AMGallant1]

The German soldiers, who at this point would have been very experienced, battle hardened troops, are depicted as ineffective. And, like a lot of Hollywood movies, the enemy gets mowed down like crazy while there are practically zero American casualties.

[@Spudtron98]

It’s 1945 and they’re deep in Germany. At this point, actually experienced troops are hard to come by because most of them have been killed already.

[@metaforcesaber]

You should do a little more research on world war II. By this point, it was literal kids and teenagers fighting the war.

[@douglasjones2570]

Great movie. Great video clip. Thank you!

[@nicoloni6555]

Wer das glaubt ist nicht Herr seiner Sinne 🖐️

[@KingyunaDarkKnight]

Great men my family my crew RIP all my brothers

[@williammarkle3299]

That was nice. thank you

[@abuzarov]

With all due respect, this movie is basically just a bang-bang flick for the entertainment of popcorn-chewing western audience who haven't seen a slightest danger in three generations. You wanna watch a real WAR movie, watch "20 days of Mariupol"

[@datemasamune2904]

I'm not a military expert, tactician, historian, or expert of whatever. I've also been better enlightened by some of the stuff of what doesn't make sense and what isn't realistic. However, that doesn't change the fact I still enjoyed this.

[@luispena5676]

Oh jeez! Is this movie belong to the new Star Wars Disney canon? What a nice and accurate lasers shooting! It must be the best Skywalker adventure ever made!

[@0lionheart]

They're called tracers, they're real, and yes green ones were used. Next stupid fucking comment..

[@1SevenCirclesDesign]

Of all the inaccuracies in the movie, the tracers was not one of them

[@matthewjones39]

Out of all the things you could have criticized about this movie, you chose something that was true.

[@luispena5676]

@@matthewjones39 Hi there... My comment was obviously guided by sarcasm, that’s why I didn't want to mention the errors related to tracer rounds. I'll cite three factors concerning the German side: 1. It seems all available German anti-tank ammo were tracer rounds. Why? Because of the useless Germans constantly needed to correct their fire, no matter whether they revealed their positions. Didn't they have aiming optics, muzzle brakes, and stabilizers on the gun carriages? 2. The feeders of the machine guns usually put a tracer bullet for every four or five rounds. Although the visual effect is somewhat forgivable giving its high rate of fire, it's hard to believe the Germans wanted to reveal their incredibly exposed positions. 3. Finally, according to the movie, Germans had an abundance of standardized tracer ammunition with the same colour by 1945. However, by those days just a few army companies could barely be equipped correctly. Much of these rounds were usually taken from the enemy, so their tracer colours could vary significantly. How is possible that all those tracers really had the same beautiful green colour? Moreover, even the tracer ammo manufactured in Germany was not standardized, so their colours could vary as well. I apologize if my comment was not well received, my opinion about this movie is not the best. “Fury” wasted a great cast, budget, production, and precious resources (including the Tiger 1 from the Tank Museum in Bovington, which I had the opportunity to see), in a silly, absurd and very low-quality patriotic pamphlet.

[@danflores8445]

Tankers are a unique breed.

[@Drnken229]

I like how the .50's just watch the MG42

[@fnxdown16]

Are you a doctor?! 😂

[@Willysmb44]

This was a good LOOKING movie for the stuff they'd used, but it had a comic book script and all kinds of silly things like all the GI dismounts firing from the hip, the extremely early-war uniform Brad Pitt wears (not to mention RUSSIAN goggles on his helmet). I know a few WW2 tanker vets who hate this movie. I'll still watch it because no other movie got the vehicles this good, though

[@NDB469]

I thought this movie was well done, showed the brutality and gave good insight to the experience of the tank crews, I liked it overall.

[@GoatZilla]

So realistic lol

[@Unga_Bunga]

What is this comedy series called?

[@ArcticChonk]

One of the war movies of all time...

[@thekid6244]

Definitely not, good plot but not very unrealistic

[@DariusOfPersia]

@@thekid6244 Read the original comment again. Of all the war movies ever made, Fury is undeniably one of them. It's not a bad one, either, unless you're looking for historical accuracy.

[@thekid6244]

@@DariusOfPersia Yes I won’t lie, it’s a very good movie but not up there. Historical accuracy does kinda make a difference especially if you can clearly see innacuracy.

[@DariusOfPersia]

@@thekid6244 i know it makes a difference. I agree with you. In terms of realism, this movie is pure shit. I was just pointing out that the original comment is making a joke. "One of the war movies of all time" is like saying "this movie is a war movie". It exists, and that's about all you can say about it. Just like how out of all the movies ever made, Morbius is definitely one of them.

[@thekid6244]

@@DariusOfPersia lol, morbius It’s morbin time

[@wineandfogdistro5088]

there is only an explanation: THIS MOVIE IS A SMOKING SH*T !

[@Mehumatti]

If your expecting historical accuracy yes but for entertainment what movies are for it's alright

[@chrishqdk7960]

If it was in real life all the shermans who Got hit would be destroyed because it was a pak 40 or 43

[@theeddytor3490]

3:28 i can watch these next 5 seconds for more than 10 times in single moment

[@josemoreno3334]

War Is Hell.

[@raymondlg7815]

Guys guys! IS A MOVIE! SO CHILL 😂

[@azrulroyrosli3248]

Movie is great. My only problem is how the soldier use the M1 Garand on the hip.

[@eddietang7112]

Exactly. Their fighting were so casual.

[@williambefort5327]

Read up on "marching fire" in Wikipedia. "The tactic of marching fire was praised by General George S. Patton for three reasons: friendly forces using the tactic continued to advance rather than get bogged down, the positive action of shooting provided self-confidence to the soldier, and the enemy's defensive fire was reduced in accuracy, volume and effectiveness. Patton recommended that the rifleman carrying "that magnificent weapon", the M1 Garand rifle, should fire his weapon every two or three paces, holding the weapon at his shoulder if desired, but a lower position between the belt and armpit was "just as effective". Patton advised his 81 mm mortar teams to stay in one place during the assault and apply steady fire, but his smaller 60 mm mortars should alternately fire and leapfrog forward. Light machine guns could be simultaneously carried and fired by one man while another man fed the ammo belt. Patton wrote that the main purpose of the tank was to attack infantry in defensive positions rather than other tanks. He instructed his tanks and other armored units to advance with marching fire in support of the infantry."

[@matthewjones39]

That was called matching fire, an actual tactic used by US troops during WW2.

[@billyb4790]

Good lord could this movie be any more Hollywood?

[@joangratzer2101]

MY UNCLE WAS IN WW2; HE SAW FURY AND SIMPLY SAID "IF WE HAD A SARGEANT LIKE PITT; WE WOULD HAVE FRAGGED HIM REAL QUICK; ALSO, HE STATED THAT THE GERMAN TIGER TANK WOULD HAVE HIT THE LEAD TANK AND THEN THE LAST TANK AND THEN WOULD HAVE PICKED OFF ALL THE REST OF THE SHERMANS IN THE MIDDLE. HE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO COME OUT AND ENGAGE THE AMERICANS, HE COULD HAVE JUST SAT THERE WITH HIS LONG RANGE, HIGH VELOCITY GUN AND PICKED THEM OFF ONE BY ONE.PURE HOLLYWOOD FILM.

[@alexanderpoff2320]

Why would they have fragged him? Cause he’s a hard ass? Isn’t that how you get strength into someone mentally? Isn’t that the point of military training? And the military is to be mentally strong? Gotta be hard on the soldiers so they can be mentally tough.

[@joangratzer2101]

@@alexanderpoff2320 MY UNCLE STATED, "WE HAD A LOT OF GUYS LIKE BRAD PITT; WHITE TRASH MASQUERADING AS ALPHA MALES. THEY WANTED COMPLETE CONTROL OF THE PLATOON, TELLING EVERYONE WHEN TO SH*T AND PISS . THEY WERE NOT ALPHA MALES; THEY WERE WHITE TRASH AND OFTEN THEY TRIED TO GET YOU KILLED." THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER; IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A SNOT NOSED 2ND LIEUTENANT OR A WHITE TRASH SERGEANT, THE RESULT IS THE SAME. BOTH OF THEM GET YOU KILLED REAL FAST."

[@Creekmore]

Glad you screamed this whole comment. Thank you.

[@matthewjones39]

Yeah, I thinks it’s reasonable to assume that your uncle was not in World War Two.

[@matthewcaughey8898]

Then they would have called in the Army air corps with a few P-47s packing HVARs and 1000 pounders and sent the Tiger to mars