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[@YouCheekyRascal]

Well people in You Tube land, this gauge was made for me by Richard, after I had seen his previous work on here, and let me tell you what a lovely piece of work it is. I wanted something substantial and this seemed to fit the bill, so I reached out to Richard and you see the results in the video. I am very happy and could not have asked for more, now I just need to put it to work. If anyone is contemplating having one made, then I reccomend getting in contact, you will not be dissapointed.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Much appreciated Victor, I hope it serves you well for many years. I recommend some cold blue to prevent corrosion...enjoy!! ~ Richard

[@milboltnut]

and how much does he charge?? I'm sure a lot more than buying Hornadys tool. Oh is that why my guage doesn't work right....I sat on it, UGH !! LMAO I guess if this machinist is bored make your own gauge !

[@tikkafoxer]

Good job Richard, nice to see good craftmanship these days, top job 💪🏻

[@IrishSkruffles]

Always nice to see some machining videos! :)

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Thanks for Watching! :)

[@rayfalcone6897]

I'm really glad I subscribe to your channel.down to earth, and easy to watch, thank you for a great video.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Thanks Ray, I appreciate ya ~ Richard

[@RickRose]

Nice job Richard! I like the new milling machine. You're brave making your first cut on a part into which you've already put a lot of work. But you pulled it off.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Thanks Rick, good to see you. Hope all is well~ Richard

[@BM905]

Simple amazing... awsome job. I really wish i could have one. Congratulations

[@jimgiordano8218]

I am going to make my own gauge, since I can't justify the price for buying one. Thanks for sharing.

[@SteveSummers]

Very Nice Richard! And nice 1st milling 😎.. As far as setup goes.. you do the best with what you have and if it works it works👍

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Thanks Steve, great to see you. I was pretty happy with the result, odd milling vise I used tho..LOL

[@anthonycash4609]

The new form of video looked great to me Richard. Nice work , that high speed steel shear tool you ground sure works very well. With the finish you got from it , well lets say I have got to try to grind one up. Just hope I get the same results you have. Looked like a mirror finish. Good to here from you again. Keep the videos coming.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Use the shear tool for whisper thin finish cuts, 1-2 thou max....you will love using one. Take your time and will get great results with it

[@andym5195]

great 1st mill project, nice one

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Thanks Andy, I appreciate ya!

[@danvandertorre9280]

fantastic job I am looking forward to using my mill for the first time soon too

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Its a lot different than running a lathe thats for sure! Good luck with your new mill! Thanks for Watching!

[@luismigueldominguez5487]

Excelente👍👏😆

[@MR6.5]

Great video Richard! Love the shear tool work, makes that old 1018 smooth! Congrats on the mill!

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Thanks Randy, I enjoy the machine work a lot. Dunno, calling those things a "mill" is a bit of a stretch but its ok for little stuff like that.

[@MR6.5]

I am waiting on a Bridgeport mill I bought that includes a shaping head and a CK12 Monarch lathe. I paid for them a few months ago but am waiting on a delivery. I picked up BOTH for $1700.00 so I could not pass up that deal. Not sure why I need another lathe or mill but the shaper intrigues me. It will be nice to have a vari-speed mill I am so tired of having to move my mills belt for change speeds!

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Excellent!!!!! Congrats! Wish my shop would support larger and heavier equipment. This poor wood floor doesnt even like the 600lb lathe....a bridgeport would go thru the floor and be on the ground...LOL

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Very happy for you, I would be on cloud 9. Variable speed is awesome as long as you dont lose torque. Be sure and do a video on the delivery 👍🏼

[@MR6.5]

Will do my friend!

[@MyHeap]

Richard, great project and thanks for showing the procedures in making it. Now that you have a little mill I expect to see some pretty cool stuff coming when you get her tooled up! Good screen transitions and placement of music. Your videos are getting better and better. Joe

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Thanks Joe, look forward to your lathe coming online as well. Thanks for the kind words :)

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Making an Overall Length Gauge on The Atlas Lathe for a viewer of the Channel. Thanks for your support! email: [e-mail]

[@StephenMortimer]

Hah... ya made this to BRAG on yer new found video skills !!

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

LOL! maybe experimenting a little 😊

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Sooo, did you like the video or was it a snoozer ?

[@StephenMortimer]

Oh ho !! LAFF !! (need the old ego massaged?)

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Ha :)

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Nice finish on the mild steel.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Thanks for dropping in Randy, I enjoy your videos and have learned a few tips from your channel ~ Richard

[@rondeak8222]

HI Richard, nice to meet you the other day. Sorry I distracted you from filming the thumbscrew, but it was great to watch you do it!

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

The pleasure was all mine Ron, I think the vid was long enuff as is! LOL I am currently working on making clamps to hold down the milling vise you so generously gave me....its challenging not having a vise to make the milling vise clamps but thats the kind of project that is right up my alley. The vise is a perfect size for my mill...thank you so much!

[@TomokosEnterprize]

Nice chip control. When the scale comes off and the inner shine comes out it is always soooo nice eh.Watching you now is still a treat bud. You have found a niche that suits you very well fella. That little mill will serve you very well and end up doing some really big jobs as with the sm. lathe(love that machine). Good to see you and I look forward to seeing you again. Well done !

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Nice to see you Dean, hope 2018 is a great year for you. I enjoy the metal work and making the videos so glad to hear you enjoy watching them. The little mill needs some work to get it to my standards so the jury is still out on the little guy. Hoping it will do what I need it to! ~ Richard

[@TomokosEnterprize]

For now it goes up and down, back and forth in 2 directions. Sounds like a mill to me. It will serve you well as is. It will make enough to be replaced by a larger unit but you will be surprised at how much it will still be used after that as is.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

The base (X/Y table) and the vertical milling portion are from 2 separate units and the way they were married together is not properly done, but can be remedied

[@TomokosEnterprize]

That sir is the attitude of a machinist/fabricator fella !

[@TomokosEnterprize]

There are machinists and there are fabricators. You sir show traits of both. Do you weld as well ? I do all and a mechanic of chainsaws, cable yarders and aircraft as well. As gramps said "A nut is a nut, a bolt is a bolt. you can put em in anything you like. The rules remain the same"

[@Iamme283]

Rich, craftsmanship on this version looks outstanding...nice job! I'm contemplating re-ordering now :-). Question though- does this build include the rod needed to extend the bullet out of the cartridge (after the assembly is inserted into firearm of choice) until it contacts the rifling/bore of the firearm? The purpose of this tool is to determine the "maximum" overall cartridge length (F.F. cartridge/bullet) for a given rifle so the owner can experiment with bullet seating depth for maximum accuracy and consistency with their hand loads.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Thanks!, The gauges do not include the rod simply due to their length and problems in shipping a thin gauge rod that long. A rod can be sourced locally by the end user. A length of welding rod would work well. Thanks for watching and the kind words 😊

[@markchester7584]

Three “go ahead’s” in one sentence - that has to be a record.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

HA!

[@_Ryex]

This is exactly what I wish was offered from hornady.

[@infoanorexic]

Nice to see that I'm not the only one that thinks the vertical shear tool is great. One with a radius works well for facing, and when you don't need to go all the way in to the center of the part, you don't have to be too concerned about the height. Somewhat close will do. It worked quite well to correct the back plate to my Bison chuck, back when I made a new spindle adapter for it. When you have some time to tinker, chuck up some scrap, turn it, make a shear pass, then make several spring passes on half of that (until you no longer produce swarf). You may need stronger light and cheaters to see it, but the last that comes off should be 'peach-fuzz on a frog' fine. Compare the finish between the two halves and measure with your best mic. I'd like to know if the extra steps have different results with different lathes or if it's only applicable to an old warrior like mine. Depending on the material, it's been the closest I've come to "mirror" right on the lathe without the use of abrasives.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Nice! I really love the tool and its simplicity.....really saves a hobbyist alot of time on surface finish

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

I didnt see your second paragraph at first but will give that a test run...thanks! ~ Richard

[@fpreston9527]

Go ahead

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

"Go ahead" with what?

[@thakurnileshprakashsingh]

I am planning to make one.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Its a fun project! :)

[@pauldeahl3980]

Where’s the push rod used to seat the bullet into the rifle lands of the barrel?

[@archangel20031]

That thread relief looks like it leaves the tube awful thin and seems like it might be a weak point.

[@BisonWorkshop]

i must have missed something. if that tool is to hold a cartrige just to measure it. wouldnt it be easier to just hold it to measure it? seems like alot involved just to hold a cartrige to measure.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Its a bit more involved than what I covered in the video, but due to the new "rules" here on YT I didnt want to go into more detail on exactly how its used or risk the video being listed as "non-friendly", you can search other videos for why these are used Bob

[@jfpinkston1]

It’s used to determine the maximum cartridge length a given chamber can accept. The user would slide a bullet into the stretched case neck and with the case chambered you are able to measure the length of the cartridge with the bullet touching the lands of the barrel.

[@barrycass2820]

Hello Richard. Your little mill what do you have for collets for it in the arbor. Thank you.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Its some weird size collets, imperial sizes....not ER 32, smaller than that. Grizzly couldnt tell me the size. Its a MT3 collet chuck

[@1967Twotone]

Nice job. What does the thumb screw do? BTW, FF means 'fire-formed' in the rifle's chamber.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Thanks, I didnt know that 👍🏼 The thumbscrew clamps down on a rod that is inserted all the way thru the gauge and advances the projectile to seat on the lands and grooves and also seat into the cartridge, then the overall length of the cartridge is measured and used as a reference for proper seating depth of the projectile. Thanks for watching! 😊

[@1967Twotone]

Ah. Now I get it.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

I am no expert on using one but thats my understanding....I just know how to make the gauges...LOL

[@MaturePatriot]

Makin Sumthin From Nuthin - Good explanation. Not all chamber throats (distance between case mouth and lands) are the same length. If you have multiple rifles in the same caliber you can customize your ammunition for each rifle. By seating the bullet very close to the lands you eliminate the "jump" from the case mouth to the lands, and in theory you will improve accuracy. Works most of the time.

[@MaturePatriot]

Makin Sumthin From Nuthin - A tool and die maker doesn't always need to know how to use a tool, but he sure needs to know how to accurately make the tool. Great job on that. What model of mill drill is that. One of those would be a compliment to a shop, for small milling projects.

[@altonrowell7854]

That's nice. But what about the rod that goes in the center of the tool.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

its just a simple rod, I dont supply that. As a machinist, I just make the gauge (the hard part to manufacture)

[@altonrowell7854]

@@MakinSumthinFromNuthin ok I was just wondering. Thanks. Sure looks good.

[@christiankovach8776]

I would like one made please.

[@raymond80hr]

r u running the sheer tool above center?

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

The shear tool is a right angle at the business end so is always on center regardless of the height adjustment of the tool holder. You can move it up or down to get a new cutting surface if it gets dull and it will still be on center height (tangent to the radius) I think its called 😊

[@shanek6582]

This is going to sound stupid to a machinist like you but if you are going to run a 5/16 x 24 die on a round stock, do you turn the blank to 5/16th? Is the first number on the die the diameter to turn? Thanks.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

I usually shoot for about .005 under the nominal size, so in this case (5/-16 being .3125) I turned it to .307 for a little clearance on the threads

[@shanek6582]

Thanks man.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

I have never used a die to thread rod, I just single point thread it using the lathe. Good luck!

[@EdmundMar]

My Hornady OAL Gauge extends into the case to far to use with a Lehigh Defense194 gr. Max Expansion subsonic. Any thoughts?

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Not being a reloader myself I cant offer an opinion on on how to work around it. Yours is a store bought one?

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Is the gauge too "short"?

[@EdmundMar]

Makin Sumthin From Nuthin, No, my hornady is to long for a 300 AAC Blackout case since the 194 gr Lehigh takes up half the case when inserted to its factory provided ?detent. I could saw off the end of the hornady but I’ rather buy yours if available.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Yes, I still custom make these, I dont stock them for immediate shipment however. I only make the gauges, not the comparator. I have an order for a gauge by another viewer that just came Monday. I will be starting the machining in the next few days and making another along with it would not be a problem. My email address is in the description portion of the video....shoot me an email to discuss pricing and could get started on manufacturing you one right away. ~ Richard

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

email: makinsumthinfromnuthin "AT" gmail.com

[@BeyReaper]

So whats the purpose of overall length gauge?

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

Its used in reloading to accurately gauge a projectile's seating depth into the cartridge

[@edwardbarron3208]

A couple of questions, first the thumb screw has no purpose in this tool, the original has a rod that passes through the tool and threads into required casings and is held in place by the thumb screw. Second the neck of the casings has to be oversized slightly so the bullet that is to be used passes freely through the neck. Third shouldn't the tapped hole in the casing and the thread on the tool match the commercialy sold casings to allow the tool to be universal? If not individuals purchasing this tool will have to drill and tap all new casings for whatever caliber they wish to size with the OLG, and not have the option of purchasing over the counter casings? First and foremost this is not a bashing by any means, I have a home machine shop as well and am considering making one of these for myself so I figured I would reach out to see why some of the things mentioned before was handled in another manner. Maybe this was addressed in another video.

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

"A couple of questions, first the thumb screw has no purpose in this tool," It doesnt? That would be news to Hornady

[@kostaspattas2993]

good job can you make me one and what is goin to cost me thank you

[@warrenkolbenheyer144]

How does someone go about getting in contact with you Richard?

[@MakinSumthinFromNuthin]

My email address is in the video description section

[@archangel20031]

When teaching a class one would bathe and dress in clean clothes before appearing before the students, right? Before doing any more close up videos where you hold something in your hands, those fingernails need a bath, under nail scrape and a trim.

[@bypasslenk8377]

I live in Brasil . Best regards. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏