Macross SDF: The Start Of A Mecha Revolution

[@Bonsaipop]

Welcome and welcome back! So glad to be talking about Macross finally, been kind of gearing up for this for a couple months now since i really got into the series during our break in January. Some people are going to be annoyed that we didn't go into spoiler territory, but that's okay, we WILL do another video on Macross, probably this year. I worked with Axel Beats on this one, he edited the first half of the video and I did the latter half and the scoring (i always do the score) but he says he enjoyed getting into Macross, so we already have an editor set up for this franchise, making it easy to do another video in a timely manner! I think i've said everything that needed to be said other than that in the video, so i suppose that's it for me today. looking forward to people's comments, and of course the typical backlash from fragile men. A video launch day is always a good day! TTYS, TYSM, -Mike

[@appropriateinput]

Does "Ronin Warriors" register on your radar, at all? Curious to hear your analysis of it.

[@jhsrt985]

Fyi my brotha If u ever see the visual troupe in anime when they shoot a Group of confusing rockets with the long complicated smoke trails that came from macross. they may have also made the constant bubble explosions in the background during a hectic fight

[@alexandrebelinge8996]

kudos for being a creator with courage to call bs in the world most just avoid it !

[@jhsrt985]

@@appropriateinput yea he must be a fan, if not then we should def introduce him

[@DerShmok]

I don't get you anymore. You say what you want to say, but censor yourself for the algorithm. You sounded like you're entitled to growth regardless of your content for a moment there. Your messaging almost sounds proud that you're provoking people. If you really want an audience that cares about your political views and self-help-advice, maybe you should split into two different channels.

[@Demanufactur3r]

6:52 you can laugh, but for almost the entire 1900's Fokker was a Dutch producer of airplanes. So the name may be inspired by that.

[@Bushidoblacc]

After a rough week, really needed to hear that message at the end. You guys rock.

[@SabiLewSounds]

Yeah I am having a rough time these days too, I needed it as well. I hope you're having a better time by now.

[@andrewowens4421]

Not only is this an excellent retrospective about the Macross series, but it also highlights the point of Macross. That we should strive for peace and understanding as well as be willing to fight for it; and that those two ideals are not mutually exclusive. It shows strength of character is developed over time based on the choices we make and whether we push those choices. Heroes aren't born, they're made, and many heroes were born of Macross, just as many are being born today.

[@vitacilina555]

As an old Anime nerd, it always brings a smile to my face when the younger generations "discover" Macross, makes me really happy when they're able to appreciate the older shows. Btw, you're absolutely right. Nobody likes Macross 7... it's hot garbagge. SDF, Plus, Frontier and Zero are true gems.

[@acereporter73]

Macross Plus... that one hits my soul. One of the best stories to come out of the franchise.

[@marcusbeasley3212]

I actually like Macross 7, it's got my favorite incarnation of Miria in it. Also Gamlin's a pretty fun character. It doesn't begin good though and like ZZ Gundam it's probably better on your second viewing when you know what to expect.

[@PR--un4ub]

@@acereporter73 _Macross Plus_ is my anime comfort food.

[@edkwon]

I'm a pretty faithful Macross fan since watching the OG in the 80s...and Macross 7 is the series I've been unable to finish despite multiple attempts. Not gonna say it's terrible, but it's definitely my least favorite

[@marcusbeasley3212]

@@edkwon Yeah Macross 7 probably isn't for everybody. The thing I find weird is that I like it more than Macross Delta and Delta takes a lot from Macross 7, but does it worse.

[@Keti_Mporta]

Background music from Ys? You sir are truly a cultured man. RESPECT.

[@SmartJapanHacks]

This was the first anime I saw. Coming from Transformers and being into fighter jets, this was love at first sight ❤❤❤

[@DominusNox106]

Same here.

[@davidscott9257]

same

[@Sephiroth144]

And then you take a close look at G1 Jetfire...

[@SmartJapanHacks]

@@Sephiroth144 Haha! I didn't actually notice that until now.

[@kicrc1893]

I was 7 when it first hit the public air waves here in Central Florida Mon-Fro 6a.m Chanel 35. My 1st anime, then transformers - Thunder Cats - Trans-zor- Z ... I'm 45 now, and still enjoy a good anime

[@mrnekojuanito]

Macross (Robotech) was one of the fisrt anime tv shows that sparkled the otaku here in Chile. 40 years and is still so good.

[@Gunsight-One]

I was introduced to Macross, like many other children of the 80's, through Robotech. My father was as much of a fan as I was and hunted for a copy of Macross: Do You Remember Love. That was no easy feat to accomplish in the 80's and led both my father and I to encounter a group of anime fans who traded bootleg VHS tapes of anime from Japan back and forth to each other. I was exposed to many great classic anime at this time like Bubblegum Crisis, Dirty Pair, Vampire Hunter D, and many more. Thanks to Macross I had the opportunity to experience many anime classics long before the home video market in the west became a thing.

[@Rawkwilder]

Fokker is an actual name... They used to build airplanes... Like a famous triplane in red paint with a black cross on it .

[@Rycel2001]

Macross: "War will not settle our differences. War is not the answer to the death and destruction that war brings. It is emotion, empathy, seeing the joys, sorrows, rage, and dreams of your fellow passengers to the grave as your own, that will truly bring an end to strife. 'Culture' and the sharing and understanding of our cultures as the window to our collective humanity is the only weapon that can slay the beast of hatred, for once and for all time."

[@ProjektBurn]

God this takes me back. The nostalgia this channel invokes is strong. Am gonna go on a limb and assume Legend of the Galactic Heroes isn't gonna get a vid is it? I bit on the fringe from what you guys normally put out but was so worth the time sink. Spoiler Alert: RIP ****** ******** And that close reminded me: Everyone wants to save the world but no one wants to help mom do the dishes. Made me smile. Stay awesome my dudes. 😎👍

[@PixleyLore]

someone told me mike has all of gatchaman on bluray which is what legends of the galactic heroes was created from

[@MES082]

A toast to democracy.

[@MonkeyKingsformerroomate]

The newest one is awesome. I haven't seen the older one but it's on the to do list.

[@mrdriver2988]

Macross is just that series that did something different and it worked and stills continues to strive for something different in each series. How they showed conflict and how it is resolved is very different from other mech anime and was one of the first to do it. Using culture and love to stop wars is what Macross started and still continues to do no mater what entry it is that is how the series will take you on to show us that conflicts are not solved by just fighting but with culture/ music and the power of love.

[@ShivyEnby]

Gundam may be hyped and well known in the West, but Macross is special and underrated in the mainstream. I've seen all of both and think it's a real shame that many people dismiss Macross because they assume it's a Gundam wannabe/clone. And then, we have LoGH. Sweet baby Jesus. That is in its own tier of greatness.

[@yeetkunedo]

I have been telling Bonsai Pop to cover LOGH for literal years.

[@sephytcd8349]

Videos like this are why I love you guys so much. It's definitely nice to celebrate series like this, but you give a very grounding and worldy comfort with your philosophies you convey, not just by giving critical thought to these shows but giving your genuine human experience that pretains to you, and I think we all feel that and makes feel a little human as well. In times like this, things seem super bleek and it's very confusing but you find a way to help give us some ease... center ourselves... and get our minds where they need to be, so we can tackle what comes forth. I'm extremely glad you decided to put out this video, I think it's exactly what I needed to see right now. Thanks!

[@fluffycloud3529]

I appreciate you speaking out about the important things and I completely agree with your views on artistry. Thanks for yet another gem of a video!

[@futurist4034]

Videos like these make me glad I'm subbed. It's such a wealth of discussion being able to detail the real-world issues that anime in general either strongly calls out or exacerbates by extension, and it's a bit of a tragedy that barely any AniTubers work up the gall to engage in those discussions. You probably get a lot of shit slung your way for doing this, though, so I'd just like to encourage you guys to stay strong, hm? Yours is a rare breed in this niche, and over 220,000 people would like to see it preserved.

[@jweezbox5063]

Been watching you guys' videos for the last couple years and I've always enjoyed what you guys create. I think it's awesome that y'all speak on certain topics because a lot of people are afraid to do that for most of the reasons y'all point out. Keep that shit up real recognize real and the real ones will always rock with y'all

[@jaytraveller]

Funny that one of the messages from SDF Macross is that Music can help join enemies understand each other, but their parent company doesn't even allows their music in KZbin without going nuclear.

[@Chiropterran]

My first exposure to this universe, sort of, was Robotech: Battlecry on the Gamecube. Even at a young age I could tell there was a lot that just wasn't being elaborated on for the sake of a game's narrative. It's encouraging to know there's a lot more depth to be found here with a bit of digging. It's good of you guys to relate the importance of this media with the context of both when it was created and how we might interpret it now. I hope that if nothing else positive comes out of the horror going on in Ukraine right now, it makes more people here and abroad more active and aware of some shit we need to sort out. That said, I hope to see this tying in applied to other relevant conflicts as and when the material justifies it. Metropolis and now this have made me very keen to catch every new video as I see them posted. Nearly done with the whole back catalogue. Keep up the great work!

[@gundamrx792]

great game

[@mookiestewart3776]

Bruh I just posted a comment about that game too!! 😂😂😂 god damn that shit was fun!!

[@Guyverman01]

Kawamori didn’t invent transforming robots per say, he perfected the idea.

[@matthewfrancisco9406]

Glad you covered this, and at this time. This series and may others are a great examination of life, war, and surviving challenges. Keep up the great work

[@Yuriel1981]

Its the Zentradi realization that the protoculture was good at War because of love was a revalation to the whole race. And caused a civil war among them because of the assumption that Humanity is descendant from the Protoculture.

[@bmcshane80]

Macross Frontier is GOD LEVEL

[@Nkanyiso_K]

I haven't seen this in about 12 years so it was cool to hear reminisce about Protoculture with my friends

[@JCDadalus]

Finds out that they are giants, but also Aliens, BUT also they look like humans!

[@HylianEvil]

Love the passion in this video. It really elevates your videos compared to other channels

[@willn8664]

My favorite was Macross Plus. The soundtrack is also awesome.

[@525Lines]

In the late 80s, they put out a bunch of music videos about how cool minmei was. I was a big fan of macross but I only found it a few years ago.

[@GreasyDaddy]

You all are one of the best channels on KZbin. I am constantly getting inspired by your videos.

[@ryandaviddaley4989]

Loved the video and way you live your values and push to always share your views even if the algo would prefer that you water things down. Also nice to see you guys still love talking about mech!

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

i appreciate seeing ppl always going back to retro anime

[@rej3ktstudios986]

Extremely happy you’ve covered Macross. It’s the most important anime franchise in history as without it there would be no Robotech, hence no American interest in anime at all, possibly no western anime fandom as we know it today. Macross at its heart is a story of love, culture and jet planes. One I’ll hold dear as I remember love until the stars turn cold.

[@emmanuelboakye1124]

👍👍

[@mookiestewart3776]

I mean macross is super important but let’s be honest………dragonball would have made it here eventually lol

[@rej3ktstudios986]

Possibly, but the first run of Dragon Ball was brought over by Harmony Gold, the creators of Robotech. It's very possible that without their initial attempt and other companies realising that Z would be more successful in English speaking nations, Dragon Ball may have never landed quite as hard.

[@brianng8350]

@@mookiestewart3776 I definitely agree Macross has its place in American animation history, but Harmony Gold was not the first one to import Japanese animation to stateside and it would not be the last. Even without Macross, there would be others who would try it. Harmony Gold actually hurt the importing of other series because of copyright issues. I did not see any of the other Macross series because of Harmony Gold's death grip until recently. That is also a shame of the legacy of Harmony Gold.

[@ZUUL117]

I actually didn't know about 'Joey the Anime Man' but I'm glad you cleared the air on this. You sir got yourself a Patron. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦!

[@mookiestewart3776]

Joey is a great content creator, def check out him , gigguk, Cdawgva and abroad in Japan , all have great channels

[@mirosawirzyk5247]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJzRpJ2ufNOlis0

[@marocat4749]

I think as pperson connor is the best but joey has pretty good content.

[@hitachicordoba]

@@mookiestewart3776 The TT bros moved to Japan and then dissed native Japanese vloggers. Not cool, dudes.

[@nathancarrington3230]

Great video! Keep doing what you do man!!

[@freakyzed8467]

Watched this on a local channel way back in the day. They ran a contest. Send in an entry request and win a prize. A week later, I see my name on the TV, call in, and win a full metal and plastic 1 and a half foot tall SDF 1 model with detachable arms, fully transformable.

[@shifty220]

Bonsai Pop providing 30mins of enjoyment and sanity in these troubled times 🙌

[@noneed4me2n7]

Was there at the beginning when all we had was robotech. Didn’t take me long to figure out it was three different series mashed together and my search for more “anime” began. So many years later I still love the genre and pass that love onto my kids. Not sure how I feel about it becoming mainstream but the exposure has helped to boost its fanbase to insane levels.

[@Dwaynerade]

New subscriber. I appreciate the nuance and care you took with Macross. Look, the original is old, a little dated, but you totally highlight the relevance it has today and the universality of its story. I've been a huge fan of Macross since the 80s and I can't tell you how often I sing its praises to younger anime fans. Anyway, never censor yourself; speak on what you want to speak on. And let the haters fall by the wayside. Macross Plus is awesome and I hope you do a deep dive on it. Thanks!

[@ellishotomani1462]

Great work. Thanks for doing this. I've been in love with this series since I was a child. It seems to resonate still in our current state.

[@darwinwins]

Macross videos uploaded in the past have been getting taken down with more frequency within the past few months. Macross is probably getting an official release in the very near future.

[@jayfiggs4656]

You guys put to light Anime we've never heard of, I completely appreciate what you guys do here.

[@weaselwolf]

Macross 7 is one of my favorite chapters, but it is a lot of a lot and pretty heavily padded. I find it helps if you don't imagine Basara as a character but rather an aspect of the plot and setting that everyone else reacts to and grows around. The important thing about 7 is that it marks the point where the series went from a military mech show featuring music, to a military mech anime ABOUT music. All future installments are as much about the music as anything else. Also Fukayama Yoshiki's music is freaking baller. If nothing else, the soundtrack is worthy of anyone's time

[@maitland72]

This was another excellently produced episode about one of my all time favorite anime. Thank you so much!! ...and btw, I personally do not think first of JTAM when I think about anime content on YT.

[@johnsnow9210]

No BS, I appreciate you guys. It was because of the video where u said you hired an editor that I started paying attention to self care

[@Euvari]

Imma keep it 100 with you man, this is a video about Macross. I hit the thumbs up and shared it before watching the video.

[@baconsarny-geddon8298]

80s Macross was epic. 'Do You Remember Love' had probably the best animation pre-Akira.

[@stevengarcia1193]

First "anime" I ever saw was Battle of the Planets and ROBOTECH it would play on the after school cartoons. I would have to do my homework before my brothers would let me watch. It introduced me to serialized storytelling and it got my dad to bye the books and really helped with my reading. This series will always be special to me. And when I found out my step dad loved it to I knew he was a good dude and I wasn't wrong.

[@andebor4169]

I rarely comment, but I still wanted to say that the work you do here is fantastic. art, regardless of medium, always reflects both its present and the present we live in. to lift it, talk about it and spread it is so worthwhile in these times. we must find strength to be able to live in the present through the media we consume, not hide in it and forget reality. someone must always be the one who starts. to take a stand, it can be me, you or anyone who has the courage to do so. it may sound hollow but I genuinely think so!

[@_GeneralMechanics_]

One of the greatest Space Opera anime of all time! Shoji Kawamori is my favorite mechanical designer that I've studied most of my life, and I even have one of his artbooks dedicated to his work on the Valkyries (published before Macross F happened). On the whole "Robotech Vs Macross" debate, I say "Yak Deculture!" because I loved them both. Robotech's Macross Saga had a great dub cast and stayed close to the original script in some ways until they tried to make Protoculture into a tangible *substance* and not a precursor race it's supposed to be. Macross has the best songs because Mari Iijima is better than Reba West! Lastly, "Do You Remember Love" is the greatest anime film in history.

[@525Lines]

After Starblazers.

[@hitachicordoba]

@@525Lines Legend of the Galactic Heroes / OG and Die Neuie These

[@svankensen]

I'm Chilean. I was born in a dictatorship because the US didn't like that we voted for a socialist government. I grew up watching "Robotech" in the days of an incipient, fragile democracy after 17 years of authoritarian horror. So as an adult I got into other Macross series. I was watching the SDF Macross sequel movie, "Macross, do you remember love", when I saw something strange. It was a billboard of the feature film in the Macross City Cinema: "Il pleut sur Santiago". Santiago is my hometown's name. It translates to "It rains over Santiago". After some googling, I found out: It is a French documentary on the horrors of the military coup in my country. Sometime in the early 80s, somone in the other side of the world was thinking of the horrors my people were suffering. About the loss of democracy and the dream of equality. Shōji Kawamori, the man that made my first anime, thought of my opressed country when making the ending of the series I grew up with. It was half a second, but it felt so personal. I loved SDF Macross before. The plot is nuanced, the romance subplot is good, the combat animation is good (except that knife fight), and the finale? Oh boy. They blew all the animation budget on that one. Anyway, now I love Macross even more. Anyway, yeah, all art is political, and I appreciate that Bonsai Pop recognizes that reality.

[@CappuccinO80]

Do You Remember Love isn't a sequel.

[@svankensen]

@@CappuccinO80 Sure, retelling, whatever.

[@thetower8577]

Thank you Bonsaipop! I love 30 min anime videos~☆

[@yuki5619]

honestly i would have never imagined me watching something like this before but now i might actually give this anime a shot. not sure when, i don't have that much of free time lately, but i'll check it out eventually. the world is burning now, but we will get trough this. thank you for the video!

[@brianng8350]

If you don't have time, go watch the movie, Do you remember love? It recaps and summarizes the TV series to an hour and half movie. The traditional animation is beautiful. I don't know who has the right to the movie now, but seek it out. There are couple of copies posted by people on KZbin -both English dubbed or English subtitled.

[@rashonverrett2841]

Great video! Also love the vibe and positive message you guys share. Keep up the awesome work!

[@LightFykki]

Such an amazing anime, really glad to see you get it covered. I was first brought to attention to this anime back in the day by HappyConsoleGamer and his passion for it and I gotta say, it quickly became one of my favorites.

[@statesminds]

I love Jon and his channel!

[@offbeatninja]

I watched all of the videos you guys upload and I can say wholeheartedly that you guys never missed.

[@Nate_the_Nobody]

6:03 What a broad generalization of a large group of people

[@81Earthangel]

I loved this show as a little child. One of the first shows I watched in my love. So much action and so emotional. Sure I didn’t understand half of it, but it was amazing.

[@solarisengineering15]

I would also recommend to anyone who watches this to watch Macross: Do you remember love? It’s essentially a re-telling of the middle part of SDF Macross but with all-new animation and a streamlined story. The animation in it is god tier and the same core elements of Macross are there as well. Thanks for talking about the War in Ukraine as well. I there's a lot of feelings I'm dealing with around that. It reminds me of stories my grandparents told me and not in a good way. They were kids in Nazi Germany during the war, and even in the rural northern parts of the country. They lived closer to Copenhagen in Denmark than Berlin and spoke a dialect most Germans still see as "inarticulate hillbilly speech" which the Nazis refused to teach in school instead using high German. They witnessed a neighbour be sent to a concentration camp for being a "communist." He thankfully survived and returned after the war was over. They had a cousin with a learning disability be taken away by Nazi medical officials and never seen again, likely killed in the T4 Program, a part of the Holocaust targeting neurodivergent people. I'm autistic, so if I lived in their time, it's likely that I would've been killed in the same way. So, seeing state repression and military aggression at the hands of Putin's regime makes me deeply sad. To see Russians and Ukrainians, who both suffered under the Nazis, forced to fight due to the whims of Tyrannical Russian Autocrats is heartbreaking. To watch Putin call the Ukrainian government Nazis enraged me. Saying Neo-Nazis run Ukraine is so bullshit it's insulting. In Zelensky's time in office many far-right officials have been expelled from positions of authority. Every day this baseless war goes on is one more day too long.

[@Shaggyone]

As ALWAYS! well done👍 Love how you wrapped it up. Keep it real my man!!!! And thanks for the recommendation. I wasn't going to check this one out at the beginning of the video, but now I'm sold!

[@MySqueezingArm]

Humble request to cover some horror/spooky stuff. Thank you guys for all that you do!

[@MrLoser-vn4lw]

Scope out the Hellmouth playlist. They got a spooktacular round October every year. If you ain't seen the vids yet, they're solid

[@MySqueezingArm]

@@MrLoser-vn4lw Noted, ty sir!

[@tomtom7734]

Yeah so grooming is why we don’t talk about gay stuff till middel school/ why./easy, it’s bit important at that age. I am a gay man, I voted for this.

[@525Lines]

I distinctly remember Macross coming out in April, 1985, at least on Bloomington, Indiana TV.

[@natedawgsup]

Yo from a fellow Hoosier. o/

[@sonicvenom8292]

I never thought I'd see a video on Macross like this, nice video!

[@icyboi13]

Macross is lovely & underrated in the West. Have you watched Do You Remember Love?

[@kaybaumann4989]

Love the analysis, man. This is exactly why I still love that show, it’s sci-if but the way it handles the war and the aftermath is real shit. There would definitely be a unification war if humanity found a spaceship like in the show and while the show keeps it brief Macross Zero goes into it way deeper, plus the VF-0 might be the one fighter that looks cooler than the VF-1. Also I love that after Space War 1 things aren’t just perfect all of a sudden, Zentradi that rebelled against their superiors now not being able to handle freedom and a life where they don’t constantly wage war and rather just wander off int or the wastelands to die alone. The show is as old as I am but it’s very good at handling a lot of very serious themes, the soundtrack is absolutely amazing and it has tons of great characters. On thing that needs to be said is that Misa is the better girl but best girl is either Claudia or Milia, Misa good but still not good enough. I also couldn’t get into M7 mostly because I didn’t like the music as much and absolutely hate Basara and wanted him to crash and burn, I also hate the new aliens. The besting about the show was Milia still being a bad ass babe. The Macross: Do You Remember, Love? Movie is on KZbin in HD and anyone that likes Macross and knows the basics of how the show starts should watch it it’s amazing. Also Robotech might have been my introduction to Macross but it can get fucked, since it totally fucks the original shows anti-war message by having Minmay sing garbage songs about how humanity will crush it’s enemies not love and anti-war songs.

[@sd-wc9ep]

Gotta say youre probably the Most relateable KZbinr on this! Keep doing what youre doing

[@bluefalcon6356]

This channel is just amazing. Anime I love and stuff I'm introduced to

[@Flowerboy.flores]

This channel is so punk rock. I’m such a fan of these guys

[@viishon8080]

There's an amazing Future Funk producer that I've been listening to for years, named Macross 82-99. This video made me realize that their name is a reference to this anime, the numbers being a reference to the year the series began, 1982, and the year that the prologue takes place in the original series, 1999. Fantastic video as always, and I'll definitely be checking out this series.

[@WaspandUnicorn]

This is why I fucking love this channel and you Mike. You're a complete badass and you speak your heart. I will always support this community.

[@sladejosephwilson2300]

Art of Fighting ost in the background?

[@saraphys5555]

Yeah, IM sure you've heard it all, buuuut... 1. Its pronounced "Mack-Cross"... the way you're saying it hurts my ears and brain. 2. Zentraedi were made to be the proxy worriors of the Protoculture Stellar Republic, after they decided that they didnt wanna die in wars... so they made the male Zentran, and the female Meltran (add -di for suffix when referring to them as a race)...and brainwashed them to never attack their creators. ...well, that basically went as swimmingly as you can expect, until their first directive "Win the War" began overriding their latter directive "Dont attack Protoculture"...and they wiped out their creators...mostly...its alittle fuzzy (especially once you get into Macross II: Lovers Again, because the Mardook MIGHT be the last, lost remnent of the Protoculture, as they seem to do EVERYTHING the Protoculture supposedly did). 3. Its called a "Daedalus Attack", and it is awesome... just wait for when the New Macross Battle Sections do their "Double Daedalus Attack"... oh, and im not sure if you bring it up, you haven't yet...but that big-@55 missile swarm attack vehicles frequently called is referred too as an "Itano Circus"...after the animator who created it. Its weird... 4. Hey, Guy-who-doesn't-have-all-the-answers, can you answer me this... Why do you feel the need to address people who are just "not that deep, bro", instead of addressing and talking more about the SDF Macross franchise? You'll never reach those people who don't want deeper messages in their anime; those are the people who see MS Gundam and see kool war robots... not the tregedy of war, and the consequences. So just dont address them, those people are gonna comment regardless...so, stay on track, and talk about the show, its themes, and whatever messages you got out of that. And remember those Immortal Words of the great "Red Leader"... "Stay on target!" 5. btw, there's 4 minutes left of this at the time of writing this...are you gonna bring up all the easter eggs? like the USS Enterprise? Millenium Falcon? Space Pirate Battleship Arcadia? Nostromo? the naked Mesa? I can go on...there's some really funny ones...

[@swisschaletsauce]

wasnt expecting the exploration of macross' parallels to real world geopolitics. loved it, well done

[@SuperRayW]

I was 4 when the dub came out in the US, and by some miracle the video store in my tiny Midwestern town had the entire series. I was genuinely shocked by how much stuck with me, and how well it aged, when I finally re-watched it 20 years later.

[@BaoZakeruga]

Great way to start the day

[@A_J-]

Just subscribed, because a> I really appreciate creators discussing older series, not just the 'new hotness'. & b> I don't watch anime for escapism, and I sure as hell don't watch anime analysis for it either. Thank you for keeping it real & I hope you can continue to do so!

[@Suon101878]

My first introduction to anime as a kid in the early 80s was Mach a Go Go(Speed Racer) and Macross(Robotech). Awesome race cars, and jets that change to bada$$ robots. Epic.

[@-geeko123]

WHOOOOOOO! NEW VIDEO!

[@Jaredeva01]

Excellent video guys!

[@statesminds]

I need to watch actual Macross. I’ve only seen Robotech. And i love mech shows. Fake fan i know. I just recently watched og UC Mobile Suit Gundam show and was surprised at how good it actually was. And on the Joey issue you have. I don’t think it’s wrong for people to continue living their lives and not always focusing on the bad in the world. I also think it’s good to also look at it. But don’t think he’s a bad person because of it like you seem to think of him. It can be nice to watch someone just have dumb fun on KZbin and escape while watching them.

[@pouncelygrin6699]

i agree

[@rook1196]

I bought the SDF Macross DVDs. As someone who likes subs about 95% of the time over an English dub I was surprised how much I actually liked Robotech more. The english cast did really well and I thought it was edited (a few scenes were moved say 1-2 ep down the road) better as well.

[@thomasffrench3639]

He just doesn’t like the content that he’s making, and finds it pretty gross, and I kinda understand. Although Joey does talk more politically on his side channel, and it’s not the huge topics in the world, but smaller more Japanese related topics.

[@xblade149]

Awesome video dude

[@rayhayes7701]

It's been a long time since I watched Macross and even Robotech but with what little memory I have I love this show. In fact it was my gateway into Gundam and I appreciate it

[@acereporter73]

We all get our start somewhere. I used to wake up early to catch Robotech since it only aired at weird hours back in the day.

[@rayhayes7701]

yeah

[@alejandrocueto5099]

Oooh compa i love this channel, greetings from Chile🌴

[@fredhercmaricaubang1883]

Dude, you did an AMAZING JOB! And, speaking as someone who was there when Super Dimensional Fortress Macross first came out & later that heresy that is called "Robotech", I'm so GLAD to see ANOTHER convert to the Macross anime series! What I disagree with is you calling Shoji Kawamori as "Kawamori-san" when the proper way to call him is "Kawamori-sensei"! Other than that, I'm EXTREMELY HAPPY to see that YOU, like me, LOVE great plots FIRST & then later great art! GOOD JOB! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

[@fredhercmaricaubang1883]

Bro, you are a POET! What you said about my favorite mecha anime series of all time is UTTERLY POETIC! THANK YOU! STAY STRONG! STAY ALIVE! LIVE STRONG! LIVE FREE! LIVE WELL!

[@JoshuaHenelyThornhill]

You guys are Rock N Roll !!!! You never back down from what you guys think and y’all with have my money for sure when I can afford it. It’s not even comparable to those big channels they just don’t do actual doodoo . Once again you guys are Rock N Roll !!

[@zidarose]

This got me watching the whole thing. Gone through SDF, Macross Zero, Macross Plus, next is Macross 7.

[@MrDannidy]

I really cant believe he said that communist Russia wasn't really communism.......

[@ryno4ever433]

@MrDannidy It wasn't. It was authoritarian state capitalism.

[@mikemac2888]

Had this series on VHS. Good to see people discovering this for the first time.

[@broodo1]

My Boyfriend is a Pilot (lyrics) KYUUN KYUUN KYUUN KYUUN watashi no kare wa PAIROTTO kirari hikatte kyuukouka GO to fukashite kyuujoushou nagaku o wo hiku hikouki gumo de ooki na HAATO ga kasanete futatsu aoi oozora RABU SAIN I love you You love me? dakedo kare ttara watashi yori jibun no hikouki ni onetsu nano KYUUN KYUUN KYUUN KYUUN watashi no kare wa PAIROTTO

[@personguy9715]

I absolutely love your content and youve turned me on to so many great shows... and in this one you do make some good points 100%... and I do agree with the anime escapism argument to an extent but here's my main issue.... why are you in this video and so many other people trying to downplay communism? like I get it that capitalism isn't great but when I see people downplay communism like that when you say "Russia wasn't actually communist" its really disheartening.... my whole family grew up under communist rule and its not a good thing its literally dictatorship where everyone is in poverty. Whenever I see people from the west say stuff like "we need communism" without ever actually experiencing it is extremely misguided. communism is just as bad as capitalism if not worse... so why do so many people here have this notion that its what we need without actually knowing the terrible implications of it.... not trying to start any fights I'm just trying to understand peoples thinking.... whenever I see people talk so positively about the oppression my family went through its genuinely angering and disheartening

[@reikun86]

Thank you for saying this. The people who want communism in the states are people who never lived through it, and are arrogant in thinking that the US will somehow do it better than any prior nation.

[@reikun86]

My boyfriend’s family also lived in the USSR. They don’t know why anybody here would want to live through it.

[@Bonsaipop]

The reason I said “it wasn’t really communism” is because of the dictatorship. Communism is the opposite of anarchy and both are defined by a complete lack of leadership, the idea is that everyone governs themselves. Depending on your tastes (survival of the fittest vs. sharing everything completely) both political philosophies are considered utopias by their supporters. I don’t support either idea, specifically because both inevitably lead to a horrible dictatorship. Western communists are blind idealists and western anarchists are blind selfish babies with WAY too much undeserved confidence. I think what it comes down to is that capitalism is a game,: “make the most money,” but there’s only so much money to win. At a certain point, capitalism needs a hard reset or you end up with a very small amount of people holding all the money and everyone else is fucked. We’re basically there right now. some people think going straight communism is the answer, that’s why you hear people saying it. Unfortunately they have no foresight and zero concept of basic human nature or social structures. It’s a vocal far left minority that is magnified by the internet’s love for extremism.

[@johannesstephanusroos4969]

@@Bonsaipop 'Real' communism always, always, always leads to genocide, my dude. Learn from history, read Plato's Republic if you want to understand the world a bit better

[@jab8618]

@@Bonsaipop 100% Bpop! Lots of Buddhist potential talking points on human nature and corruptibility regardless of the system we live in. At the end of the day if things are out of balance shit gets weird. Systems that drive people towards scarcity will end in more suffering. Working towards systems where people have better democratic channels to take care of themselves and not exploit other people is the way to go. Much love to you, you rock for reading people's comments, and thanks for making me think.

[@Jinx_FA20]

I grew up on Robotech in the 80's until anime started trickling into the U.S. store in the 90's(Tower Records/ The Warehouse/ Hollywood Videos to name a few) and I was finally introduced to SDF: Macross. At that point I was really hooked in this awesome world. Started watching everything I could get my hands on: Do You Remember Love?, Macross 2, Plus, Zero and finally F. Just like you I couldn't get myself to like 7. The only thing I could probably say I liked from that series was seeing legends characters Max and his Ex-Wife. I also felt this same way with Delta. Idk, Frontier raised the bar with me then it felt like we're back with 7 again. Anyways, great video. Thank you for sharing and brining me back.

[@StubbsOTD]

I took a break last week. Took Friday off and drove across the state with a friend to visit another friend. Spent the weekend eating, drinking and watching anime. Sometimes you just need to hang out with the bros watching crazy shit and laughing together.

[@johan4593]

I'm surprised you made a video on Macross. You just made my weekend. Also, love the editing

[@D3Vlicious]

One of the great things about SDFM is how it goes out of its way to narratively justify many of the tropes and conventions that similar shows (Yamato, Gundam, etc.) had used at the time. It was something I missed when watching it all those years ago that I only realized upon watching more shows from that era.

[@PWPunkRules]

Fuck yeah - lets go. Gonna watch Macross now. Big ups! Longtime Patreon sub and this is why I'm here. Love ya guys!!!!

[@ElCampeador99]

My father introduced me to Macross (Robotech) which drew me into anime and Japanese video games. As a kid I just liked it because of the robots fighting but I rewatched a few years back and the story had much more meaning to me. It’s a show that isn’t focused on the mech fights but more on the human element whether that be about how society is structured or to how relationships and our personal lives matter. I’m confident enough to say that it is a wonderful series that in my opinion is more meaningful than many other mecha anime I have seen. Plus the music is a central theme of the show and who doesn’t love good music.

[@gabrielknight8988]

Who's Joey the anime man when I think anime on KZbin I think bonsai pop ily guys keep up the good work but remember to take break's lol

[@rookless4121]

Yep, this is still one of my favorites of all time. It was my very FIRST anime so I'm a little biased but resently watched the "Do you Remember Love?" Movie and bro... It had me so hyped!!