Mad Max Interceptor Pull - 351 Cleveland on the Dyno!

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@shane92905
@shane92905 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the sound of a good 351C nothing else sounds like them
@alexcorona
@alexcorona 9 ай бұрын
351M 😂 Boss 302…etc
@vadenk4433
@vadenk4433 6 ай бұрын
I’ve never heard a 351 M that sounded anywhere near as good as a well built Cleveland. Not saying they don’t exist but every 351 M I’ve been around was an absolute dog
@billdang3953
@billdang3953 3 ай бұрын
@@vadenk4433 Typical for a malaise era engine.
@herbertmartin955
@herbertmartin955 5 жыл бұрын
Back when dyno- saurs roamed the streets the Cleveland was one of the few engines that could strike fear in the heart of a big block.
@petergalouzis7272
@petergalouzis7272 4 жыл бұрын
Herbert Martin and the clevo still lives up to its status . 2v for the street 4v for race
@bbcala9719
@bbcala9719 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, one of Fords best race motors. Street n strip
@lemans310
@lemans310 4 жыл бұрын
Had a 351 Cleveland in a 73 Torino. Best sound ever. Torque monster!
@hendo337
@hendo337 4 жыл бұрын
It was the LS of the 70s.
@charliemorris2338
@charliemorris2338 4 жыл бұрын
Small block with the attitude of a big block.
@AliasUndercover
@AliasUndercover 4 жыл бұрын
Fords just generate oil from the air when they run. It condenses on the block and drips off, protecting the engine from rust. It's magic.
@alonzomoore8025
@alonzomoore8025 3 жыл бұрын
o I 0 o oo
@randyhamilton2863
@randyhamilton2863 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@1972mercurycougar
@1972mercurycougar 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Still love them! '71-'73 Cougar fan! 351C is a gem.
@jimginter6802
@jimginter6802 2 жыл бұрын
That's the only explaining that makes sense yet, especially in regards to two stroke jimmies, thank you
@That_Handle
@That_Handle 2 жыл бұрын
8:48 - Is it never a good idea to include oil dye for definitvely tracking down leaks and faster?
@jerryberryhill3619
@jerryberryhill3619 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing like the sound of a 351 C, I love these engines.
@Hybridknfgrowchannel
@Hybridknfgrowchannel 5 ай бұрын
Bad af
@philipmiller9787
@philipmiller9787 4 жыл бұрын
Had a 351c in a 71 mach 1, took route 66 from Phoenix to Detroit in 1987 best ride so far,I'm 57
@kgooch69
@kgooch69 6 жыл бұрын
Being a big Cleveland guy myself I am impressed but at the same time I wasn't surprised..the Cleveland will flat out run.
@guysumpthin2974
@guysumpthin2974 Жыл бұрын
5min of a guy drinking coffee?
@kevinbrucestevens7747
@kevinbrucestevens7747 9 ай бұрын
There's a reason they used it and the 390 in trucks.
@Orygunducks56
@Orygunducks56 5 жыл бұрын
Boy this takes me back. What a great find on KZbin. in 76 at 19 years old, I bought a 1970 Mach One 351 CV4 with an FMX auto trans and 9 inch rear end. Trashed the FMX and put in a built C6 with 3500 stall speed converter. Took the motor to the local machine shop and a copy of a Hot Rod Street build for the motor with HP output at around 425+. Cam high rise 750 cfm holly headers ported and polished the heads etc. Added 4.11 posi gears for the track, freshly updated brakes, coil over and traction bars. Wish I could have put it on a dyno but ran out of funds. Took it to Woodburn Drag Strip where the first pass was 11.60 smoking the tires most of the way. Needed slicks badly. Didn't get another pass that day as it blew the rear main seal. Common problem on this motor. Boy I loved that motor, it pulled so hard and sounded so good, pulled harder than my friends built 455 GTO or 440 GTX. Didn't lose a single street race the two years I owned it. Never got back to the track with it. Would have liked to keep it but I also met my future wife at the track and I still have her 42 years later and a 92 Fox body 5.0 that has some bolt on goodies for fun.
@blindhog2756
@blindhog2756 5 жыл бұрын
I had a 66 impala 396 4 speed, and I never beat a car like yours on the strip. I could handle most anything else,and always thought this mustang Cleveland setup was almost perfect.
@dad5650
@dad5650 5 жыл бұрын
I worked on a woman's Ford Torino that she said was running a little rough. I took the car for a test drive and put the gas pedal to the floor and it burned rubber all the way down the street. Lifted the hood and there sat a cleveland...great engine!
@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043
@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 4 жыл бұрын
Must be used to driving 4 cylinder honda. This made 352hp at 5300rpm and 392hp at 3800rpm
@scorpiuswireless1
@scorpiuswireless1 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to know you abuse clients cars. Tool.
@dad5650
@dad5650 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a client, it was a friend and that's what it needed, a good carbon cleaning. It ran great! Tool
@dad5650
@dad5650 4 жыл бұрын
@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 The Honda back then had a twin cylinder motorcycle engine....600, I think. They had just started making cars.
@scorpiuswireless1
@scorpiuswireless1 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah right.
@kevinpatrick8788
@kevinpatrick8788 4 жыл бұрын
im a mopar guy and i love my 71 duster 340 but ford really hit the mark with the 351 cleveland . great smallblock
@alexcorona
@alexcorona 9 ай бұрын
Actually they did not because it came too late, so it never got to see the pinnacle of what it could have been. Ford was planning the 4V version to make 500HP…. But then the gas crisis hit and the production motor ended up being crippled heavily.
3 ай бұрын
Ford never called them "small blocks".
@billdang3953
@billdang3953 3 ай бұрын
Ever heard of the 318 polyshere? The Ford Cleveland engines borrowed from the 318 polysphere in that it used similar looking valve configuration and combustion chamber as well as the evenly spaced intake and exhaust ports (as opposed to the small block Chevy's siamaesed ports).
@DeliciousDeBlair
@DeliciousDeBlair 6 жыл бұрын
Rule 1: Newer isn't always better! Rule 2: NEVER throw anything away!
@ckelley63
@ckelley63 6 жыл бұрын
Your so delicious!
@jquest43
@jquest43 5 жыл бұрын
mad ass you're a bad egg
@acts2211
@acts2211 5 жыл бұрын
Never throw it away a special it works perfectly when you take it off the car
@alansmollen
@alansmollen 5 жыл бұрын
I gave up driving a car, because living in Japan One does not need a car. Your rules are totally on top dead center.
@kanishkdhanker0280
@kanishkdhanker0280 5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you Outside of LinkedIn.
@frehleyleadguitar
@frehleyleadguitar 3 жыл бұрын
I have good memories of my Cleveland, one of the best running engines I’ve owned! Fun to see this one on the dyno.
@twolak1972
@twolak1972 2 жыл бұрын
The 351C is one of the Iconic engines like the 427 side oiler. For decades Bob Glidden dominated Pro stock with this brute despite chevy and mopars attempts to ban it. The 69 Mach 1 351 C 4 spd combo has been the demise of so many BB mopars and chevys the list is endless. That motor like the 427 is capable of scary scary hp and torque.
@charger19691
@charger19691 6 жыл бұрын
Nick really puts everything he has into building his engines and repairing cars. Much respect!
@charger19691
@charger19691 6 жыл бұрын
kcotte59, Nick knows how to build them.
@110665
@110665 6 жыл бұрын
thats why I use a roller cam now, no need to run in the cam...love them Cleveland's!!
@billdang3953
@billdang3953 3 ай бұрын
Good choice as currently available engine oils do not have sufficient zinc to protect flat tappet cams.
@cliffcampbell8827
@cliffcampbell8827 4 жыл бұрын
Nick's enthusiasm is infectious. I'm feeling pumped to go to work now. Better than a cup of coffee. Great work Nick!
@acts2211
@acts2211 5 жыл бұрын
It is an absolute joy to watch somebody who's a master of their craft
@mynameis9057
@mynameis9057 5 жыл бұрын
I had a 2v 351 Cleveland in my '72 Mercury Montego GT and boy that car was a screamer! even though it was stock and didn't even have a 4v or headers,it still went like a bat out of hell! sounds good too.thanks again guys. ☆☆☆
@orieandlindamartin1632
@orieandlindamartin1632 Жыл бұрын
I'm a cleveland fanatic from way back had one in a Pantera!!
@gordocarbo
@gordocarbo 9 ай бұрын
Dan from So Cal? If so Im the one that put your cam in
@jeromyzwiers1452
@jeromyzwiers1452 6 жыл бұрын
That is one of the best engines ever made!!!
@actiniumanarchy9237
@actiniumanarchy9237 5 жыл бұрын
Cleveland’s are fantastic. My 393 Stroke Cleveland is putting out 650 HP N/A :)
@larryarcher4502
@larryarcher4502 4 жыл бұрын
Boy does that take me back 68 Ford Fairlane station wagon my dad passed everything from Chip trucks to Cadillacs with nine kids in the car thanks for memory lane Nick live on 351
@TechnikMeister2
@TechnikMeister2 6 жыл бұрын
What I like about NG is that there is no bullshit. He is the best for getting the best out of fairly standard muscle engines. And yes, Nick, 351s always fart around with their electrics. But a good 351 will match a good 350 Chevvy. The only problem is the weight. Aluminium heads and intake would get over 400 out of this engine.
@alycestapleton
@alycestapleton 6 жыл бұрын
1973 Ford Falcon XB GT coupe is the original MAD MAX car in the movie ,every Australian should know this . What a great iconic Australian muscle car I don’t work on that many V8 ‘s or older powered one’s ,but I do love my Australian V8 muscle cars . What a machine !!!! As we say here in Australia. Great work mates cheers
@mrmadunit3923
@mrmadunit3923 Жыл бұрын
THESE GUYS AR CANADIAN LOL they may have never seen a falcon hardtop in real life,sad to say but that coupe is pig ugly and much bigger
@lyndonbushnell8080
@lyndonbushnell8080 4 жыл бұрын
These Cleveland 351 engines were great in the Australian Ford XY GT Falcons
@buddyrojek9417
@buddyrojek9417 11 ай бұрын
Also could buy the engines from factory and mate put in his ski boat 🚤 4v heads
@adriaandeleeuw8339
@adriaandeleeuw8339 6 ай бұрын
I had one in an Australian 1978 XC FAIRMONT GXL.I wish I still had it.
@Unclejake
@Unclejake 5 жыл бұрын
The ford ain’t leaking, it’s marking its spot!
@cheyneanderson5222
@cheyneanderson5222 4 жыл бұрын
Its sweating horsepower
@HighlanderNorth1
@HighlanderNorth1 3 жыл бұрын
It's not a Harley dude! Lol
@wayneoneal7952
@wayneoneal7952 5 жыл бұрын
I love 351 Cleveland's!!!! Great motor from Ford
@gossy351
@gossy351 6 жыл бұрын
8:37 that look on his face is priceless, bravo Nick bravo, another ecstatic customer.
@paulmoffat9306
@paulmoffat9306 5 жыл бұрын
Back in 1969, I factory ordered a Mustang Grande with 351 Cleveland, 450 holly carb, Dual Exhaust, and AT. The 0-120mph was 13 seconds. BTW, it cost $CDN4,750 back then. That engine idled soo smooth, that on several occasions, I tried to start it, thinking it had stalled. The grinding of the starter said otherwise!.
@borisbash
@borisbash 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Moffat: You related to Allan? The racing driver.
@joegaskill8742
@joegaskill8742 6 жыл бұрын
Nice seeing a Ford motor on your dyno Mr. Nick!!
@nickpanaritis4122
@nickpanaritis4122 6 жыл бұрын
joe Gaskill. Yes indeed. It is nice of course. That is what all American Muscle Engines is about and what I love. Good to see all kinds.
@aaronford7124
@aaronford7124 4 жыл бұрын
My combo is a zero decked 20 over 2v 351. I did light pocket work behind the valves and port matched the intake. I used an RPM intake and 1 3/4 headers. I also used the Pertronix with a recurve kit to bring timing in a bit earlier. My cam is the 265DEH grind from Comp. It runs like a scalded ape. Sounds great through chambered mufflers. Any more Cleveland content coming?
@AnomalousOne1401
@AnomalousOne1401 6 жыл бұрын
I was sitting on my patio, unwinding after the night shift at work. The notice popped up. A new episode of Nick's Garage. I tapped the notification and started watching until the 66 Charger appeared. I suddenly realized something and paused it. Gotta get my black , Nick's Garage T-shirt. It's not the same without it. Mr Nick, I know you do what you do because you love what you do. All these late nights and weekends are going to burn you out. Set some time aside for you and your family. You'll never go wrong on that.
@NicksGarage
@NicksGarage 6 жыл бұрын
Right on, Dog.
@woodey028
@woodey028 6 жыл бұрын
C'mon Dog True words of WISDOM :)
@dillee9988
@dillee9988 3 жыл бұрын
It's not work when you enjoy what you do.
@gerald4133
@gerald4133 Жыл бұрын
That Engine brings back So Many Memories!!! Mach 1 Mustang 🐎
@kennethbredow3098
@kennethbredow3098 6 жыл бұрын
A real first class show , Thanks Nick and your crew .
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, man, that rumble takes me waaaaay back. Dad had a 351 in his cougar when I was a little kid (sold the car in 1980 or so), and that was my lullaby when I couldn't fall asleep.
@lomasck
@lomasck 6 жыл бұрын
I had a T-Bucket 351Cleavland with a 400hp motor.Mild cam.Closed chamber 302 heads.Ported & ground 2.5cc out to lower compression as Leaded fuel was band .I had to run 12 deg static timing and 28 deg by 2500rpm .The 750 Vac secondary Holley Carbi had 4mm holes drilled into the butterflies to fix jetting problems.On the 1250 kg ,3 speed Auto T-bucket it did 11.8 second 1/4 mile runs.I had Chevy & Holden motors but this was the best design motor .It never let me down .
@nickpanaritis4122
@nickpanaritis4122 6 жыл бұрын
chris lomas. The 351 Cleveland is a great engine for performance.
@nameundetected6867
@nameundetected6867 5 жыл бұрын
In Australia, in the 70s-80s the Cleveland was Ford’s king of v8’s, ford Australia redesigned the us engine and gave it thicker cylinder walls to overcome overheating issues that plagued the USA Cleveland engine. The Cleveland powered phase 4 falcon in 1972 was to have over 400hp, but the Australian government stepped in and stopped production claiming they were too dangerous to sell to the public, 😢
@HowardJrFord
@HowardJrFord 2 жыл бұрын
One horsepower per cube on an engine that doesn't even have headers is impressive .
@scottford1091
@scottford1091 Жыл бұрын
And a stock cast iron low rise intake too!
@russellflemister393
@russellflemister393 6 жыл бұрын
had a 1970 torino gt with a 351c 4v man i loved that engine made lots of power
@jglayden
@jglayden 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 70' and a 71' Torino with the 351 4v and another engine on a stand. They all have the closed chamber heads.
@dalecarter4025
@dalecarter4025 5 жыл бұрын
Yea,that 70 and 71 was the best. I had a 73 4v 4 bolt main,spread bore carb,but it was lower compression. I think it was the Cleveland cj.
@unicornwolfteam718
@unicornwolfteam718 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 70 torino also. Raced it at the strip. With a sig erson Viking cam and double matching valve springs engine would touch 8,100 rpm. The track said if you race the car next time put a roll bar in it.
@bobski8203
@bobski8203 4 жыл бұрын
My Torino had a 351 Windsor, which sang sweetly at 5500 RPM, and a local guy had reworked it with a police pursuit transmission. I never heard it sing until I was cruising 140 taking my mother to the hospital. After that, I knew what I had. I thought about doing a B&B, but I was afraid the added confidence would be dangerous to my health and that of my neighbors, so I didn't do it. I regret selling the car when I was broke, but the guy that got it was a street-rodder and gave me $8k. Not bad for my $3k investment. I miss it, and I still hear it singing in my dreams.
@passinthru5992
@passinthru5992 4 жыл бұрын
I ordered 1970 Torino 351 Cleveland 4 speed,positraction with the shaker hood scoop. Wimbledon white,black guts. Very fun. I traded in my 1969 Mach 1 with 4 speed 351 wins or gulfstream aqua,gold stripes,white guts. What a blast those cars were.
@Mike383HK
@Mike383HK 4 жыл бұрын
I used to eat all my friends with my 70 Cougar XR7 with the 351 C including 70 Novas with quads and I had a 2 barrel. I knew that C was special.
@robkeogh4593
@robkeogh4593 4 жыл бұрын
Here in Australia the 351C was THE engine for the ford brigade. Made famous here in Ford Australia's XY Falcon GTHO Phase 3. The hero car for the early 70's. They sell for over half a million with perfect examples going for almost One Million. Claimed output was around 380 bhp with a top speed of 140mph. The 351 was a brilliant engine, Aussie's never really took to the big blocks, perhaps because they just weren't an option for us here. A Ford American exec looking after Ford Aus (Bill Bourke) did have a big block shoe horned into an XW falcon back in the day though. It can be googled, along with the XY GTHO
@clevo351
@clevo351 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite videos Nick , Bravo Brothermou! A set of good headers was worth at least another 25hp.
@johntempest267
@johntempest267 5 жыл бұрын
'72 351HO Mustang would flat out fly! Never got any pre-race respect. Post race got accused of hiding the bottle. The Cleveland was a diamond.
@joeross6523
@joeross6523 5 жыл бұрын
Too bad they're so damn ugly!
@lilythomson881
@lilythomson881 5 жыл бұрын
@@joeross6523 There is NOTHING ugly about that engine.
@joeross6523
@joeross6523 5 жыл бұрын
@@lilythomson881 I was talking about '72 mustangs, they're ugly as hell.
@lilythomson881
@lilythomson881 5 жыл бұрын
@@joeross6523 I disagree there as well. The 71 to 73 Mustang Fastback was a gorgeous car. Now that Mad Max car that this engine is going back into, well, that's another matter.
@slyane7320
@slyane7320 5 жыл бұрын
Had a 72 Mach1,351CJ,C6,& a 3.25 9in...dang near bulletproof, the Cleveland made power up higher in the rpm range than other small blocks.
@NVRAMboi
@NVRAMboi 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, guys. Really nice to see some Ford power on the dyno for a change. That thing believes it's a BOSS 351 powerplant.
@dalecarter4025
@dalecarter4025 5 жыл бұрын
They had said that the boss 351 was faster than the 429scj
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын
@@dalecarter4025 helps being about 400lbs lighter!
@thomasauto4862
@thomasauto4862 5 жыл бұрын
I had a 1972 Ford Grand Torino, 351 Cleveland, FX transmission. It come with a 2BBL, I replaced it with a Holly 500 2BBL, then adapted a Chevy Quadrajet. Both carbs allowed me to drive 39mph, challenge anything even Vetts, I could Slam the Automatic shifter into 1st gear and wind out first gear to 55mph then shift up and would wrap the Speedo all the way around back to Zero. Oh do I miss her!! Never any mechanical failures anywhere on that car.
@oldpolak5203
@oldpolak5203 4 жыл бұрын
I used to do that to my poor Monza , my friends thought I was nuts !
@MitzvosGolem1
@MitzvosGolem1 6 жыл бұрын
that was one of the best motors Fomoco made.
@XA351GT
@XA351GT 5 жыл бұрын
Jon Kaase has made a living building Clevelands and destroying SBC in Engine Masters competitions .
@caratcranker5874
@caratcranker5874 5 жыл бұрын
Really? can you give me a video of this? [sounds awesome.....] Oval and out...haha.
@johnwilburn
@johnwilburn 4 жыл бұрын
@@caratcranker5874Just search the Engine Masters competitions on KZbin. He's built many of the less common Ford engines to win.
@robertfox977
@robertfox977 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe but. You can make SBC horsepower cheaper than any Ford engine
@johnwilburn
@johnwilburn 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah..... yawn.... you can also dump nitrous on anything. It’s not how fast you go, but how you go fast.
@BobbyOfEarth
@BobbyOfEarth 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, Bob Glidden had pretty good luck over the years doing the same thing in NHRA ProStock.
@Buzbikebklyn1
@Buzbikebklyn1 6 жыл бұрын
Call me old. I once built a copy of my Dad's Imperial. He wanted it stripped. After I painted the car with it's black over gold motif, we pulled out the interior. All the power options were gone. We put in a 6 point roll cage, a genuine Hurst automatic shifter with roll control. A 472ci 6 pack. Heavy duty brakes. We got the monster to turn 12s. Now, it seems a shame to do what we did to the Imp. Call me old, but I want a comfortable car. Fast and comfortable don't have to be mutual exclusive now. You rock Nick! The way of the muscle car will never die. Tommy
@augienajera642
@augienajera642 5 жыл бұрын
Never was a Ford guy, but that 351 Cleveland is one Bad A.. engine! I use to work with a dude who have one of these motors in his 90's mustang and that ride would hall A..!
@unicornwolfteam718
@unicornwolfteam718 4 жыл бұрын
If you really care about your engine and you use a flat tappet cam, start the engine with soft valve springs. Then switch them back. Don't take short cuts. Its hard to explain but if you are any good at being a mechanic, hang the#1 plug out on side of block well grounded put your finger near spark plug hole. Turn engine over, don't pump the gas' and notice when spark and compression happens. If you are good you know when you are close. Replace plug. Pump gas sparingly. This is simplified but if you are good, you can always start an engine quick and easy this way. I have done this hundreds of times.
@MightyCRD
@MightyCRD 5 жыл бұрын
Good to see you are using a Motors auto repair manual for reference - best damn manuals ever.
@ernestrodriguez4659
@ernestrodriguez4659 6 жыл бұрын
I am a big fan of the 390 but, that Cleveland is hands down nice!
@notsure7874
@notsure7874 3 жыл бұрын
The 390 is really a better engine in almost every way I can think of - particularly with mains priority oiling. They're also easier to find stuff for - just a bit heavier. But the 351C is a cool machine in its own right.
@timclaus8313
@timclaus8313 3 жыл бұрын
@@notsure7874 Once you go to an aluminum top end and manifold, lightens them up pretty good.
@jamesbaskins6351
@jamesbaskins6351 3 жыл бұрын
I had. 390 in my first car. It was s 63 .i had a 71. Fastback it got stolen from me
@hessranch
@hessranch 10 ай бұрын
The 390 was such a great engine. We had one in our ranch truck. It could pull a ton and also haul ass. Best dual purpose engine Ford ever built.
@steveanderson5888
@steveanderson5888 6 жыл бұрын
Another Badass video from you Nick.! You'll find that oil leak that customer was very happy about his engine!! Keep up the good work!!!
@mrwcp63
@mrwcp63 6 жыл бұрын
Mopar fan but like at all and I love the fact that Nick likes to bring out the best in every brand of car engine
@joefwarren
@joefwarren 6 жыл бұрын
By far my favorite classic engine. Ive owned 3 of those engines ( 2 mustangs and a torino gt) and they were all a blast to drive!
@duster0066
@duster0066 6 жыл бұрын
We're old now boys, but we got to live some very cool times. My fav and the one I learned most and raced was the "Bullet" combo. Mine was a 67 fastback 390 GT 4-speed and nodular 9 inch. They were slugs compared to new cars, so we had to learn how to tune them for speed. I called my 390 a baby 427 because that's how it was built and ran when I got done with it. It was a blast.
@yourhandlehere1
@yourhandlehere1 6 жыл бұрын
I learned to drive in a 390 station wagon when I was 12. It got put through hell by my older brothers, my sister liked to jump railroad tracks (all 4 wheels off the ground). One brother raced it at a dirt track on the weekend, got 2nd place, washed it and brought it home. (It's the family car, dad drives to work every day and we take vacations in) We traded it for a 73 Dart, saw it a few weeks later in a driveway almost folded in half with some slotted mags on it.
@johnnyzonta5173
@johnnyzonta5173 6 жыл бұрын
Another one of Nick's build .....awesome SHOP, whenever you go to his shop always a car show.........
@MayfieldCreekObservatory
@MayfieldCreekObservatory 2 жыл бұрын
We stuffed a 4v Cleveland in a 1988 Ford Ranger back in 1990. Dropped 9” Rear End in it and had lots of fun. It had a split duration camshaft solid lifters. I didn’t know much about cars and engines but my brother in law and another friend engineered that project. I would roll around the streets of Western Kentucky and that thing just had a sound like never heard since and it was a beast. People would just gawk at it. It was more fun than I ever had in my life. I was originally going to put a 302 in it but then we thought nah let’s put a Cleveland in it. Lol.
@billdang3953
@billdang3953 3 ай бұрын
Imagine if it had the Cleveland's relative, the 400 with 500+ HP and 500+ Ft lbs torque. It would be hard getting rear tires to last with an engine like that.
@unclemikeb
@unclemikeb 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's a healthy 351. Sounds sweet as can be.
@billyd7882
@billyd7882 8 ай бұрын
Old school engine guy for sure. No ear plugs. Tunes by sound and feel.
@buckeyduck
@buckeyduck 6 жыл бұрын
The Clevland engine was developed at the height of the muscle car era and Ford, along with GM and Chrysler, were fudging hp numbers to beat the insurance companies. The NHRA knew this and classified cars in stock and super stock according to real world hp numbers. Not to surprising that a 351C with 4V heads and a slightly bigger cam made 352 hp.
@marcmielhausen1971
@marcmielhausen1971 6 жыл бұрын
If I suspected rear main seal leak (or any oil leak not related to dyno fittings), the first thing I would have done is hook up the PCV to eliminate crankcase pressure. I'm surprised a seasoned veteran like Nick wouldn't have tried that first.
@nickpanaritis4122
@nickpanaritis4122 6 жыл бұрын
marcmielhausen1971. I am very well aware of crankcase pressure build up. PCV valve was working, and also the breather was OK also. And yes, it was a Dyno fitting at the rear of the engine, just under the rag.
@marcmielhausen1971
@marcmielhausen1971 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I can see in the video that the PCV valve isn't connected to manifold vacuum and the other crankcase vent isn't connected to an air breather (venturi vacuum). I'm glad it was something simple and that is definitely one stout engine you've built.
@PlanetWatcher123
@PlanetWatcher123 5 жыл бұрын
Back then the Ford Motor Company factory shop manual published by Helms said to use silicone sealer in the corners where the block rear main gasket meets the pan gaskets. Us really old guys remember things like that from 50 years ago, but we forget where we put our eyeglasses down 5 minutes ago.
@pgtmr2713
@pgtmr2713 5 жыл бұрын
I have to do the same thing for my Mazda valve covers. So of course the guy I bought my engine from had the stuff all along the whole gasket path. Leaked something horrible. Everything else, the guy did right.
@andrewfotopoulos7766
@andrewfotopoulos7766 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Chevy guy...but damn!!! That 351 is the boss! Much respect, like these old school engines better than what Ford puts out today. Shows what these engines are capable of.
@markarrivi3818
@markarrivi3818 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Nick You Are The Best Man For The Job On Any Engine 👍👍👍👍
@je8784
@je8784 Жыл бұрын
I built a 351, ported, polished, 750 holley, big cam, high rise manifold, 11 to 1 heads, anti pump up lifters, electronic ignition ect. Gave big blocks a run for their money. Put it in my 4x4 half ton pickup last 10 years, beast!
@edwinstorz702
@edwinstorz702 6 жыл бұрын
1980.....i can still hear all those laughing when i said the 351 Cleveland with only a few mods, STOCK BLOCK & HEADS, would put out 400 hp, and here we go! The hidden truths about hp....
@TheMitchbassman
@TheMitchbassman 5 жыл бұрын
Who laughed?... Those are great engines..
@TeamDrif-Tastik
@TeamDrif-Tastik 5 жыл бұрын
Yea but put the motor in the car on a dyno jet. You wont get no 400 hp.
@alanjanderson9789
@alanjanderson9789 5 жыл бұрын
The 351C will make alot more Hp with mild work to it easy to get 500+ and still have street manners
@caratcranker5874
@caratcranker5874 5 жыл бұрын
@@TeamDrif-Tastik Rubbish. Bill Santochiano, was a Bathurst GTFord mechanic, some factory HO' 3 phase were running close to 500Hp. Call him up, argue with him mate.
@glenholmgren1218
@glenholmgren1218 4 жыл бұрын
@arborcidal maniac It's all about PMEP, which is partially determined by air flow, and flame-front propagation and those 351C heads were amazing for this.
@gerald4133
@gerald4133 Жыл бұрын
Showing off for a friend I did a 35 ft burn out! Filled the grocery store parking lot & burnt a Valve! That lead to me rebuild it. Up in Smoke!
@allamericansinceborn
@allamericansinceborn 6 жыл бұрын
Nice quality video! I had a Cleveland in my 1970 f-100.. one of my favorite engines ever. My 429 cobra jet in my 69 Torino is my favorite. Love your KZbin channel guys. Keep up, on the great work. American muscle forever!! 😎😎😎😎
@nickpanaritis4122
@nickpanaritis4122 6 жыл бұрын
TODD BARK. Thank you.
@markanthony3275
@markanthony3275 6 жыл бұрын
I can almost smell the unburned fuel ! You gotta love this Nick guy...he obviously likes what he does for a living!
@doctoredable
@doctoredable 6 жыл бұрын
The 351 ford engine was one of the most reliable engines ever built. Purred for more than 250k miles predictably even when driven hard. Listen to that beast!!!
@elijahrobinson2362
@elijahrobinson2362 6 жыл бұрын
Edward Dergosits all of the Big 3 made really good small block engines of ~5.7/350-ish cubic inches. 350, 351, 360, 327, 318...
@1darryloflife
@1darryloflife 6 жыл бұрын
Ah the old clevo. Having done many hours with those engines there are a few tricks to apply for a reliable engine. The cooling system is NUMBER 1 as Ford stopped making the ORIGINAL bucket thermostats. The pumps are atrocious so that is a very important must do. To give you an idea we eventually achieved fuel economy of 580 km using 60 liters of LPG or as you guys know it as propane. Power was never dynoed but I managed to tear engines mounts continually. You have a long way to go guys.
@brand-x7049
@brand-x7049 6 жыл бұрын
Ol' Cleve's feelin' positively young again - got its salty back, ready to hop some tires!
@markcollins457
@markcollins457 21 күн бұрын
I have never been much of a Ford fan(as far as working on them) because I think Ford is owned by Snap-On tool company. But you can't deny the sound of a healthy Ford music to the ears.
@johndelta00
@johndelta00 6 жыл бұрын
Some day, hopefully soon, I will be as happy at work and eager to stay late as Nick is. You are living the dream my friend and I have a feeling that you are aware of that fact.
@baird5776mullet
@baird5776mullet 6 жыл бұрын
According to Hot Rod Mag the 351 Cleveland delivered more horsepower per cubic inch than any small block from the late 60's early 70's they nicknamed it "little big block" Bill Elliot sure made his name with it on the large ovals.
@justinl9077
@justinl9077 6 жыл бұрын
kenny baird yep,. Ford went to Le Mans and spanked the Ferraris and Porsches.
@Frank289100
@Frank289100 6 жыл бұрын
@kenny baird, IN 1970 WAYNE GAPP AND JACK ROUSH CAMPAIGNED A 351 POWERED 1970 PINTO IN PROSTOCK RACING. IT DIDN'T BEAT, BUT OBLITERATED THE COMPETITON. CRY BABY GRUMPING JENKINS (THE BIG CHEATER) WHO CHEVY GUYS LOOK UP TO PROTESTED THE CAR AND THE NHRA (ANOTHER DIVISION OF GM) BANNED IT FROM RACING TO KEEP THE SMALL BLOCK CHEVY IN THE WINNERS CIRCLE AS THEY HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE THE AMA BAN OF 1957. AS WITH ALL FORD'S THAT DOMINATED RACING THROUGH THE 60'S AND 70'S BOTH IN NHRA AND NASCAR AND LEMANS EITHER BANNED THEM OR USED RULE BOOKS TO GOVERN THEM WHILE THE REST WERE IMMUNE TO THE VERY SAME RULES. IT WAS A COMMON THING TO BAN FORDS IN RACING. THE SMALL BLOCK 289ci WINDSOR WAS HIGHLEY GOVERNED BY RULE BOOKS BY THE NHRA THAT THEY LITERALLY DISAPPEARED FROM DRAG RACING. IN NASCAR THE INLINE SMALLBLOCK FORD WAS DEEMED ILLEGAL FOR USE BACK IN THE 1960'S. THE 289ci HI PO RACE MOTORS IN THE A/FX CLASS RACING IN THE MERCURY COMETS PRODUCED 450HP. ON THE SHORT RACE TRACKS IT WOULD HAVE TOTALLY DOMINATED NASCAR. SO TO LET THE SMALL BLOCK CHEVY HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN THEY BANNED THE SMALL BLOCK FORD.
@paulgarvin1525
@paulgarvin1525 6 жыл бұрын
Ford beat Ferrari at LeMans with a 427 Side oiler and a 289. A 351 Cleveland never set foot on that track.
@oldridersteve217
@oldridersteve217 6 жыл бұрын
I actually had my friends brother in 1984 mention that same horsepower fact as he transferred a 351 Windsor into his Maverick. Being kind of a Chevy guy I laughed at him. Since then I've come to appreciate Ford cars and engines, and owned a couple.
@289cobra9
@289cobra9 6 жыл бұрын
@@justinl9077 Ford used the 427 in La Mans.
@CS_247
@CS_247 5 жыл бұрын
Those Clevelands sound just lovely at idle. Done a few for Panteras, they can make some sick power, with the right bits. Loads of fun on quad webbers!!
@SuspenseESCAPEremastered
@SuspenseESCAPEremastered 5 жыл бұрын
Of all the classic Ford Muscle cars I had during the 70's and 80's the '70 Mach 1 351C was my favorite. And you're right! They have a sound all their own.
@patrickmcdonald3427
@patrickmcdonald3427 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuspenseESCAPEremastered I had a '70 notchback with a 302/3 speed while in high school, then bought '73 Mach with it's original engine replaced with a 351C 2 BBL. it turned out a rocker broke, so I found a '73 351C Cobra Jet engine and all was REALLY WELL!
@PlymouthVT
@PlymouthVT 4 жыл бұрын
You had me at Pantera sir.
@JJ-ym8bu
@JJ-ym8bu Жыл бұрын
You have to love the way the engine gargles when it its in idle.
@stephengardin2423
@stephengardin2423 6 жыл бұрын
Clevelands: Love them or hate them they always made big power. The Windsor version was my personal favourite. More reliable and you could still use the GT 40 heads. For sure it's got go and not only for show. It's kind of too bad that a functional blower wasn't considered. Thank you, Nick and crew.
@briantracy1324
@briantracy1324 6 жыл бұрын
You can sub a 429/460 distributor ...
@jnljnl8485
@jnljnl8485 6 жыл бұрын
stephen gardin the gt40 Windsor heads dont flow near what a set of even the 2 barrel cleveland heads do. A canted valve head will always mop the floor with a inline valve head. The winslor was just a narrower package
@bigassfordsd
@bigassfordsd 6 жыл бұрын
exactly, clevelands are awesome small block engines. I'm a mopar muscle guy, but when it come to small blocks, I love me some Ford cleveland power.
@nickpanaritis4122
@nickpanaritis4122 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Tracy. Good to know. Thanks for the info.
@GearheadExplorer85
@GearheadExplorer85 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah a real blower would be nice but not everyone has the budget for that stuff. Perhaps he will add a real one later on.
@autoshotty
@autoshotty 3 жыл бұрын
I built a few back in the day and today...The numbers are good considering stock intake and exhaust manifolds. The DOAE 4BBL. quench heads are great but work much better with exhaust spacer plates. I would love to dyno my Ford 400 with the Boss 351 Cleveland heads...been sitting on the stand completed for 20 years.
@bccev770
@bccev770 6 жыл бұрын
I like all the US V8's, but a worked or stock Ford sound's the best, that's my opinion.
@FirebirdCamaro1220
@FirebirdCamaro1220 5 жыл бұрын
Big Pontiacs (421,428,455) with a proper cam and heads have my favorite sound, especially at idle!
@jackmehoff4613
@jackmehoff4613 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. They do sound good. But they're notorious leakers.
@spudtaterson6281
@spudtaterson6281 4 жыл бұрын
@kcotte59 you sound like a jerk. The opinions are like assholes comment works both sides of the street you know bud.
@kennethcohagen3539
@kennethcohagen3539 2 жыл бұрын
Way back when I was a tadpole, I helped a group of guys put together a Boss 351. It was a version of the 351C with four bolt mains. We sent the heads out to Jack Roush to have new exhaust runners installed on the heads, installed a roller cam, tunnel ram and a whole lot of tic. That year at the Nationals we ran it at Firebird/Wild Horse Pass. We ran super comp, the class just below Pro Stock. The main differences were, 1) we used a 66 Mustang Fastback to run it in, and Prostock rules at the time said you couldn’t run anything older than five years, and we could. 2) the other difference is was we ran a 3spd automatic, while Pro Stock pretty much ran 5 speeds manual. On qualifying day one we ran a 8.82 , while the top Pto Stock car ran a 10th quicker 8.72. They make power when you build them correctly!
@buckeyduck
@buckeyduck 6 жыл бұрын
Nice build, Nick. Great channel. Thanks for sharing.
@timmitzlaff8960
@timmitzlaff8960 5 жыл бұрын
The more young guys that hang around you the better. Your knowledge is gold.
@2545810
@2545810 5 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these when I came home from Vietnam , it was a beast, my friend had a 396 SS Malibu that he was real proud of, I beat him easily on every rum. I missed a gear once and he was about 3 car lengths ahead and I still dusted him . I beat a Dodge Charger with a 440 six pack. Best comp came from a Ford Torino with the 429. I had to return to Vietnam so I left the car with my sister. She let her boyfriend drive it. And he wrecked it. End of story.
@dustypeppers1358
@dustypeppers1358 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Godfrey I love the 67/70 Cougars. The only car ever made that actually looks like it's namesake....a menacing crouching cat.
@wonkawilly5573
@wonkawilly5573 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite ford motor.
@xxkingslayemxxgamer5553
@xxkingslayemxxgamer5553 Жыл бұрын
That Cleveland is just starting to breathe at 5000 rpm
@alexcorona
@alexcorona 9 ай бұрын
It’s got a stock cam so that’s all it’s got. They really need a Intake cam and headers and it’s not hard making 100-150HP over stock. You can’t say that about most engines, to hit those numbers it required a head swap.
@rb6725
@rb6725 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to criticise our American friends for not having the correct model Australian Ford Falcon XB Coupe but I say now good luck with your build. You are Mad Max fans and we really appreciate the enthusiasm and wish you luck with your car, it looks great.
@tacbear
@tacbear 5 жыл бұрын
Back in the day I had a 71 Torino GT 351C4v that ran 14.08@100+ on street tires!
@wreckanchor
@wreckanchor 5 жыл бұрын
My boss has a 71 Torino GT with the Original 351 C in it just wasting away in his fathers yard. C6 & 9 inch rear etc. its all there but I would guess rust has claimed the body.
@darrellterry7209
@darrellterry7209 4 жыл бұрын
Had a 351 H.O. in a 70 Maverick grabber 4 speed quick change a slight high rise with a 1150 double pumper back in the day it was hard to beat.
@wendlormsby
@wendlormsby 4 жыл бұрын
You would have been quicker with a 650, vacuum secondary Holley carb, Darrell...and got way better gas mileage!
@johnnyhawkins43
@johnnyhawkins43 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't trade a blownup Cleveland for all the Windsor engines made!!!!!!!
@gallant19650
@gallant19650 5 жыл бұрын
i had a Grand torino 73 for my first car with a 351 C and loved it and i did a lot of crazy thing ....that car I LOVED IT AND MISSSSSSSS IT A LOT
@sombra6153
@sombra6153 6 жыл бұрын
Great numbers! I had a 71 Cougar with a Cleveland 2V. It sure wasn’t a 4V, but still ran pretty good wide open with double stacked air filter elements and dual exhaust. Just think what they’re capable with aluminum heads and modern foresight.
@dufus2273
@dufus2273 3 жыл бұрын
i think those 2 barrels were either 500 or 600 cfm. i forget
@alexcorona
@alexcorona 9 ай бұрын
The 2V is more than enough, the 4V head’s ports way too big on anything but a stroker.
@Darkhorse393
@Darkhorse393 6 жыл бұрын
Ford 2 piece rear main seals always leak a bit. Thats why they eventually switched to 1 piece.
@HowardJrFord
@HowardJrFord 6 жыл бұрын
That was the reason all automakers switched to the 1 piece seals.
@FirebirdCamaro1220
@FirebirdCamaro1220 5 жыл бұрын
Chevy two piece rear mains are famous for leaking
@robbiefrentz9427
@robbiefrentz9427 5 жыл бұрын
I had a 1972 torino gt with 351 Clevland it would destroy L60 rear tires even at a 30mph roll. She was a beast
@gerald4133
@gerald4133 Жыл бұрын
My valve covers said POWERED BY FORD! That's a great engine, Bob Glidden use to Race it in Pro Stock. My buddy from school went to the Spring Nationals to see him race Grumpy Jenkins Chevys. Bob had this Large good scoop! Memories
@cavemanballistics6338
@cavemanballistics6338 Жыл бұрын
NICK saw something he didn't like. It was the big BLUE OVAL on the valve cover because Nick loves NOPARS! This engine would easily make another 20HP if it was twisted to 6200rpm. Back in the day it was proven that FORD under estimated the HP on all their High Performance engines.
@redroo12
@redroo12 5 жыл бұрын
That's great proof of how easy it is to make reliable HP and torque out of these old girls. That why they were used by Ford here in Australia for so long. They don't have to have spastic cams and mods to make respectable, reliable HP.
@johnsmith7622
@johnsmith7622 5 жыл бұрын
Cruised main in late 70's... 71 Cougar with a 351C... Could smoke the tires at the turn around so badly... cars had to wait a minute to see to drive!!! GREAT TIMES... GREAT GIRLFRIENDS!
@iggyfritz8796
@iggyfritz8796 6 жыл бұрын
Myself owned a 1970 mustang coupe with 351 cleaveland 4v. That engine was downright scary! After obliterating the tires and caught tracion it would still be pulling like a mule over 120mph. I swore it felt like it would destroy itself if I let it. My point is ; 351c stock 4 bolt main caps, quenche chambered, 11and half compression ratio stock !! Was a bad mo fo!! Later a stock 72 gran torino, low compression 351c 4v I had beaten a 70 454 chevelle by 2 car lengths. Never got the mustang to hook, but that torino shure would. Was the fastest car in high school.
@bucyruserie1211
@bucyruserie1211 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Iggy, I own a 71 Torino GT Convertible, 351C 4-bbl, 4 speed, 3:25 posi.. It's stock, has the 11 to 1 quenched chambered heads, the real secret to the Cleveland heads was the canted valves..angled to aid the flow of fuel/exaust into and out of cylinder. I honestly never liked the 72-76 Gran Torino, But I'm biased owning the earlier model.. Either way, I'm almost positive that ford only made the 351C 4-bbl in 70-71 in the Torino lineup.. I think in 72 you could only get it in the Mach1 Mustang. The 351C 4-bbl would bolt right in a 72 Gran Torino..so maybe somebody did an engine swap? IDK look it up, I could b wrong. But I don't think so. Tom
@PlanetWatcher123
@PlanetWatcher123 5 жыл бұрын
Our 69' 351 Mustang 3:50 traction lock rear also had some traction problems until we wore out the original tires and switched over to 235x70R15" radials on the rear and 205/70R 14 inch radials on the front along with 50/50 front shocks. Back then the Ford 14" and 15" rims were interchangeable and both fit the Mustang. Also added a Addco rear sway bar and eventually moved the battery to the trunk. Like in the video above I tried a Holly 600 CMF and found that the stock Ford carb (I believe 470 CFM) was a better match to the engine. Best thing back then was the prices. 69 Candy Apple red Fastback (not Mach 1), high back seat option, racing mirrors and hood scoop as options, optional fold down rear seat, 3:50 rear, 3 speed manual (yes 3 speed, it was the same HD trans they used in their pickups) , ps only cost $2,800 new. Today optional wheels alone can be over $3,000 extra and so is the sales tax now. My 66' Corvette 327/350 convertible was $ 4,200 new at Corvette Coral. Back then you could have bought 15 Vettes new for what one new Corvette costs today. I just ordered a 2019 Ford F150 5.0 crew cab and for what it cost I could have bought close to 20 Mustangs back in 1969
@todddenio3200
@todddenio3200 5 жыл бұрын
@@bucyruserie1211 my brother had a factory stock 74 Gran Torino Sport and it had the 351 C 4V in it. It went like the Dickens and would pass up anything but a gas station if heavy on the throttle. I wish I had it now.
@tskraj3190
@tskraj3190 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't have the 72' Torino but I had the 72' Cougar with the 351 Cleveland but it wouldn't touch a 454 Chevelle SS. I had it finely tuned and it was quick but it couldn't compare to a Firebird or a Camaro. I did swap the motor out with a rebuilt 429 with Keith Black flat top pistons and Lunatti Trick Flow heads which gave it a lot more power.
@GJ-DT
@GJ-DT 5 жыл бұрын
The guy in the 70 454 either didn't know how to drive or he was trying to set you up for a money pass
@mschiffel1
@mschiffel1 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent numbers with cast iron exhaust manifolds !
@AltheRad
@AltheRad 6 жыл бұрын
J'aime le dual spark , I had a 428CJ with dual spark. The Carb I converted to manual secondaries, mechanical linkage got rid of vacuum spark advance as well. I went to centrifugal advance, so easy to change. Carry on doing this as long as you can my fellow Canadian! Hey also enjoy the Fete en Quebec!
@gerald4133
@gerald4133 5 жыл бұрын
My Dad bought a 71" Mach 1 351 C 4spd hurt. I rebuilt it after burning a valve. That is a familiar sound..351 C are great motors. My Uncle let me use his tractor/bus garage. Miss those days. Behind a 4spd it was a fun match and in yellow & black high back seats shoulder straps. I once saw a Boss 351 silver.
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