Mad Men boardroom scene

[@spockinaditch6765]

"...and we're gonna use 240p. Ladies like that."

[@StephNuggs]

Annoyed me it's not in black-and-white

[@sitrakamatthieu]

ecology mate xD

[@chrissaenz6213]

Grandpa, it must have been hard back in the olden days.

[@FirstLastOne]

Ladies do like the big pixels!

[@philsurtees]

Soft focus whether you like it or not.

[@maxmorch-monsted2656]

Rachel 100% was the ideal woman for Don. She was clearly the smartest because although she really liked him she could see who he was and wanted no part of it.

[@MarklovesAngels]

Agreed. That scene were she realized he was an empty, weak shell and dumped him was striking - and the acting was amazing.

[@zurzakne-etra7069]

@@MarklovesAngels this makes me think of what her sister said to him, about how Rachel lived the life she wanted to live...

[@MarklovesAngels]

@@zurzakne-etra7069 Thanks for the reminder. Great scene and moment.

[@DodaGarcia]

If anything she was out of his league. Much like Dr. Faye, Don wouldn't have been able to handle a woman he couldn't control, but differently from Dr. Faye Rachel realized it before he could really hurt her.

[@DodaGarcia]

@@zurzakne-etra7069 That scene is painful on so many levels, beautifully done. In fact you can see in the way both sisters acted that their father did a fine job raising them.

[@DodaGarcia]

My god Rachel is so badass, the way she defends her father at the end gives me goosebumps. She was just far too good for Don, and she knew it too. And so did her sister, we find out eventually.

[@hansending749]

I gotta say, having worked in advertising for like 8 years now, with hindsight the Menkens might be like my ideal clients. I know they're fictional but I'd love to work on them. Abe is honest, refreshing, practical, broad minded and challenging without being antagonistic. Rachel is challenging, briefs well considering this isn't what she's trained to do, has vision of what she wants but once she's sure you're following her strategy she gives you the autonomy to plan and execute and she is on your side and doesn't micromanage the tactics. It's been a while since I've watched the show but I can't remember any other clients measuring up to them. The Jaguar guy was a total sleazebag psycho, the GM guys are tyrants, the smaller brands like Belle Jolie or Admiral were hopelessly bigotted micromanagers, Lucky Strikes were entitled and also the son was a psycho, Hilton was brilliant but playing mind games etc etc.

[@SOS-ct9mv]

It's actually based on Bergdorf Goodman which is real.

[@maxhalsted5381]

How would you take on the jaguar sleezbag

[@hansending749]

@@maxhalsted5381 I think I'd personally just have voiced my opposition, refused to work on that account and taken whatever consequences (which is something I've done before with stuff I disagreed with, eg. sports betting stuff which in Australia is a huge industry), but I have the luxury of not working in the 1960's, where there was less tolerance for individual temperaments I guess so who knows.

[@senguptasayn]

Totally agree with the points made. And very beautifully articulated.

[@TG-ld8hl]

Connie Hilton was an awesome character on this show, but yeah, he’d have been very tough to work with

[@CoacoaBean08]

i love her character, especially when she has that conversation with him "i know what it feels like to be out of place, and theres something about you that tells me you know it too."

[@TheRc0211]

Pete just never fails to stick out like a sore thumb

[@eolsunder]

yep but he's a youngster, they are suppose to do that. he isn't a brilliant genius or a phenom, he's a sales guy learning the ropes. He isn't going to learn them in a year.

[@situated4]

Gauche.

[@gogyoo]

@@situated4 Sure, the left thumb, if you like ;)

[@DodaGarcia]

As grating and weasely as Pete was throughout the show, it's very sweet to see him grow from an insecure nobody constantly putting his foot in his mouth to a fantastic account man.

[@mikestevenson576]

@@DodaGarcia And let's face it, he was always ahead of the others on social change.

[@fan5407]

0:43 - I love Menkens' response about having a line: "Even if you have to pay people to stand in it." Also, Ken shows little awareness of Menkens' concerns when he replies, "We'll do whatever it takes." This show is so fun to watch.

[@marudoethiopia]

I thought Ken knew exactly what he meant, but was countering, "Yeah not a bad idea. What's so wrong with that?"

[@Magido89]

How did Ken show little awareness?

[@B2Roland]

​@@marudoethiopiaKen is a dumbass.

[@qqqq-sg5iw]

@@Magido89 1. Menken thinks that the ROI on the new concept may not be adequate. He is concerned about the costs of construction, specifically the opportunity cost: the floor space won't generate revenue while under renovation. 2. Don argues that they can put together a marketing campaign that will create anticipation for the launch of the new concept which would supposedly turn into more customers and hence additional revenue offsetting the opportunity costs accrued during renovation. 3. Menken's comment about paying people to stand in line implies he thinks such a hype campaign could be costly and generate no additional revenue compared to just launching quietly. 4. Ken misses Menken's implication entirely. This is my interpretation and that of @fan5407. However, @marudoethiopia seems to think Ken understood the implication but is making the counter-argument that Menken is vastly underestimating the potential for increased revenue from a hype campaign. I think both interpretations are valid.

[@Marius_Sangue]

@@Magido89Don was trying to make the point that they will build so much anticipation and hype, there will be a line outside, waiting for the grand opening. Menkens countered that they will probably pay those people to stand in line, meaning he didn’t have much faith in Don’s vision. Ken obviously didn’t pick that up, since by saying “we’ll do whatever it takes”, he is saying that may be necessary, so he basically admitted he also didn’t see Don’s vision. But that’s not what he actually meant, he was simply too eager to please and showed his lack of awareness.

[@aakksshhaayy]

I gotta say, Don should have stuck with Rachel. Best woman on the show.

[@jettisone]

+aakksshhaayy 100% agree, every other women felt like a fling, Rachel had a certain depth

[@rahimahoque6897]

I also think always. She was the best

[@johndom706]

aakksshhaayy Suzy was the hottest. Rachel or Faye would've been the best. I have no idea why Don went with Megan

[@houseofmatrix6174]

John Domantay I agree Rachel, Faye&School teacher

[@houseofmatrix6174]

Cheshire Sua he didn't haveanothershe had career she pulling away from she move LA, she didn't tell him she did him she had miscarriage, she said a mean comment about his momma

[@GiaJoseph07]

Don looks so young and sooo handsome, he has change, and Pete too, Roger is the same, doesn't get old (more).

[@Publiclighthouse]

"My father actually started with nothing and he made it into everything we're talking about. Who here can say that?" Actually, Don can. He's not even really Don. But he made himself into it from nothing.

[@roshi98]

Which is why he can't say it.

[@timothyernest6429]

Don't Draper can !

[@timothyernest6429]

Like gatsby.

[@brettsinger9565]

Unlike Menken, Don did not start out in the Great Depression.

[@jonnnney]

Don made himself, but he was hired by Sterling Cooper. Don had achieved a lot, but starting a company from scratch and spending ~10 years working for a ~40 year old company are very different things.

[@66Bunn]

The Mr. Menken character is so perfect. He's smart, asks brilliant questions. Seems like a guy you'd want to work for. I must say, Don handles his objections brilliantly. It's a good thing he was in the room, Mr. Menken would've had the other guys for lunch

[@xamurai00]

Don can actually say he started with nothing.

[@andrew7taylor]

Less. He didn't even have a family, he's had a negative family. Mother - dead; father - abusive drunkard, dead; stepmother - cold & abusive; stepfather - abusive. Of course, he can't talk about it.

[@aakksshhaayy]

They are on a different scale tbh, the jew guy is probably a 100x richer than Don

[@timf7413]

He did, but the point is he can't say that.

[@mb7626]

Don Draper is sort of a fiction, though. This other guy has a less cynical story of how he built himself up.

[@robertaxel]

Thanks for correcting that bigoted remark..

[@tomf429]

"You'll probably pay people to stand in line"..."we'll do whatever it takes" Great writing.

[@theflorgeormix]

Its amazing that this small scene gets so many views. The actress however was excellent in the show. Extremely memorable.

[@jsimmons12]

It's the thumbnail that got me here

[@DodaGarcia]

@@jsimmons12 It's gorgeous for sure! The way she holds a cigarette is reminiscent of Sean Young in Blade Runner (EDIT: whose character is also called Rachael!!).

[@maddywoo13]

Not everyone is shallow. Rachael had a mind and a great personality, and no matter who you are, that alone made her gorgeous. To people worth their salt, that is far more sexy than something on the surface, which fades.

[@zurzakne-etra7069]

it helps that she's gorgeous

[@jec1ny]

"Not everyone is shallow..." Are we talking about that stunning lady with the gilded cigarette holder?

[@bogdanlevi7483]

@@jec1ny Yep, only she's not exactly stunning nor gorgeous. She's wearing too much war-paint and jewelry.

[@Lafayette320]

But Rachel is physically gorgeous and looks even more seductive smoking her cigarettes!

[@joannesmith2484]

@@bogdanlevi7483 That was the height of chic at that time.

[@oneminutetomidknight]

weird going back and watching the early episodes how grey everything looks..

[@curranfrank2854]

Yeah think the show's aesthetic definitely improved between season 1 and 2 and then again once they moved into the new office

[@maxbrazil3712]

...as a flannel suit.

[@byronw0]

The colors were muted during the early seasons to reflect the era when television was black & white. The later episodes looked more colorful to reflect the change to color television in late 60's

[@danielmorse6597]

Rachel was an amazing story....shoulda been more of her.

[@timothyernest6429]

If Don had married Rachel , it would be a fiery romance that in their respective memories only would be each other's true love in their lifetime but alas they would have been divorced , make no mistake, inside 3 years.

[@KateLicker]

what would go wrong?

[@louiewatson9389]

@@KateLicker woman like that, an alpha female would constantly butt heads with an alpha male like don. No matter how much feminist crap you feed yourself a woman has to be submissive and cooperative with her husband. She has to trust him and know he's going to guide them in the right direction. The ultimate power couple is a fantasy. They'd both be fighting over who is the dominant in the relationship.

[@KateLicker]

@@louiewatson9389 Alpha or not, why cannot we both just be equal in the relationship and figure out decisions together--it is all I have ever sought..neither some kind of Stepford Wife, nor any kind of post-feminist goose-stepper fucking nightmare..

[@erwind1257]

@@louiewatson9389 The reason that they would've gotten divorced is because Don's problem is internal. The entire show is about his existential struggle. Did you watch it? It's about him desperately wanting control over life. And when he has that control, it's about him growing bored and wanting more, again and again. He has the perfect ex-model, submissive housewife and he breaks the marriage and family at the expense of his children. He has the perfect exotic Hollywood starlet wife, and he can't make that work either. Pete Campbell blackmails Don about revealing his past. Panicked, Don then goes to Rachel and proposes that they flee together and start a new life on the West Coast. Rachel quickly realizes that Don doesn't want to run away with her, he just wants to run away with anyone and leave his life behind. Heartbroken, she breaks contact with him forever. Later, while at a restaurant in 1962, Rachel runs into Don and Bobbie Barrett. She reveals that she's been married to a man named Tilden Katz. Eight years later, Don has a dream about Rachel and decides to reach out to her. He finds out that she has just passed away due to leukemia, leaving behind her husband and two young children. Rachel's sister tells Don that, "She lived the life that she wanted to live. She had everything." To which Don replies, "Good." Jon Hamm delivers the line with mourning, deference as well as appreciation - insinuating that Don really hopes that her sister is right, and that Rachel was happy, while knowing that he couldn't claim the same for his constantly broken, unbalanced life. The ads and business plans and whatever will happen to Sterling Cooper are just an advertisement that conceals and stimulates the existential reality of human life. Don's alpha-ness is a struggle with his mortality. Those who seek dominance, whether male or female, are just unintellectually struggling for control in life. It's an effort to tame their deeper fears. Peace in life and in a relationship doesn't come from being dominant or from controlling others.

[@snecko]

'It is' Thanks Pete

[@angelcitygirl]

Rachel is my top five Mad Men women behind Betty, Joan, Peggy and Peter's poor wife.

[@jlacson74]

I like Megan, especially after that Scooby doobie doo song.

[@dailybls]

I was never too fond of Peggy. She was hardworking and ambitious but she had some cringey scenes. A bit too bland, and she never really seemed that smart or special. Joan was impressive. Betty, likeable despite or maybe because of her immaturity and selfishness. Rachel was a moral ideal who was too good for Don. A strong alpha like him, but without the inner turmoil and the emotional weaknesses.

[@KateLicker]

@@jlacson74 Zoo bizou..I'm waiting for her to sing it on SEAL TEAM.

[@uzuegbunamb]

@@jlacson74 Oh no you did not just call it Scooby doobie doo song. Hahaha. I have never laughed so hard.

[@houseofmatrix6174]

@@jlacson74 scooby Doo song 😹😹😹

[@nolaanderson8770]

This is not a "boardroom scene" it's a "sales pitch scene"

[@no1guy825]

nimrod still didn't change it

[@rapunzelagain]

I don't think so! His facade is crumbling more and more all the time. Even his affairs are miserable and desperate, where at least in the earlier seasons he seemed to enjoy them. Sally doesn't respect him anymore, Megan can't hold his attention. Work, where he used to be the king, is now just kind of hit and miss. He's truly lost.

[@bogdanlevi7483]

I'd say his client here is lost, more exactly, overrun by time. Don's idea was original and visionary.

[@moderntipton]

Rachel was the best at exposing Don's flaws by diffusing his persuasive style with lucid reasoning. Even here, after another signature pitch that would have won over most, she derails the opportunity by revealing the empty vessel that it was.

[@bogdanlevi7483]

And just what was her "lucid reasoning"? Can't see any. Nor do I see any of Don's flaws in the work he does. His idea was abreast with the time, unlike Rachel's father who wanted to stick to the old ways that would've gotten him nowhere.

[@moderntipton]

@@bogdanlevi7483 Don's claim on consumer behavior was not supported by fact (although the facts may have certainly aligned). Instead he reasoned from anecdote, authority, and appealed to emotions. Rachel was not moved, replying with her own anecdote and advocating a more deliberate, measured approach rather than falling for Don's charm like most would. This is a reoccurring theme throughout their relationship. Don gets by on superficial merit as a mask for his internal struggles. Rachel nullifies his very existence and sees what others cannot--an insecure man working behind a facade... which is what he is, at this point in the series.

[@listrahtes]

@@moderntipton its part of him but also zhere is much more. Thats why she is drawn to him. Don has real life experience, real deep insights and a constant hunger for culture. He gets things. Otherwise Rachel would not be interested. He is by far the brightest at the company together with Bert.

[@thalberg-]

@@moderntipton well said

[@James-g8q1e]

Don has a lot of insight and authority and Presence but of someone in his position of a mid 30s ad executive. I binge watched the series when i was 29 or 30 years old and then understood more watching it through the remaining seasons and again a few years later . Now, I am 43 the same age Don was at end of the show I see it very differently of course I know the entire arc but also it is my own business knowledge, life, and philosophical journey that has changed. I now see Don as far less experienced and trying to understand himself and others while working and living too much too fast in an accelerating age. The world is changing fast while he simultaneously is struggling with all his issues and seeking love and validation and a sense of self and understanding when he doesn’t have the time to commit to it. The more he goes seeking or working hard the more women he is with get distant or he gets distant. While self assured in instances he has comfort he also gets anxiety is resolving or reconciling. The more distant Betty gets the more he feels compelled to stay at work or cheat the more distant she gets the more he cheats and it is a cycle until it ends with her and starts with another. Don has decorum and manners around others but also has his own moral ambiguities. Not any one relationship is fulfilling enough fir what he needs so he had as many as he needs to feel something akin to love and affection but still feels lonely and unloved. Hard to say how his marriage was before the show began but by the time the audience sees it they are already dysfunctional so it is hard to know if it was Betty’s distancing and coldness that cane first or Don’s cheating - sure everyone lays the blame on Don and he did the cheating but Betty was not very warm or affectionate which he desperately needed full acceptance snd he didn’t trust her enough or think she would accept him enough to lay his soul bare. It is a complicated story but Dick/Don is working so hard to be successful he doesn’t have time to grapple and resolve his past and the shows arc is him doing it sometimes he does it poorly snd sometimes he does it better and by the end he does it but no one know what his future past Coke Ad epiphany is so we don’t know what happened after that. In the Stoic sense it wasn’t how far he cane it is how far he had yet to go. Don looks and acts a bit older than his age as was a typical of era compared to today. Today there is so much more to learn because technology has advanced so much but that means expectations have changed of what is young or older as life spans increased - still a 30 something year old with limited college education but work success is going to still be struggling with their self and philosophy and it wasn’t a huge emphasis for that generation but Don does embody philosophies and often combats others on them but he doesn’t fully understand them because he is too busy living (working, partying, playing, cheating, trying to he a husband/father) all of it is overwhelming and that doesn’t even account fir reconciling his dark past. Trust me anyone with his background to get to where he was at would be an achievement and lucky he only had as many problems as he did. I actually think he was doing well considering it is hard to hold him up to a high moral standard when people with less problematic upbringings gad equal or more problems like Roger or Pete - Don is actually about Par for the course considering he is mostly normal and operating at a high level of success. Roger and Pete had all sorts of advantages and actually have as many or more problems than Don. Don of course has great advantage of confidence and attention in controlled environments he can thrive in but if he is environment he is less comfortable in confronting his past he has issues or family life or when he does feel morals to reveal or tell more truth. Sometimes to confront our issues we need to do it and overcome it through our obstacles and mistakes. All the characters of the show have flaws and a lack of understanding but they are living and alive and that is more than can be said about most people - so they have problems but even perfect moral family good oriented people have problems they just aren’t as interesting television. As a society then the expectations were perfection but the realities were always far different - society defined was was perfect but people live in real world not in a magazine or an Ad which is what makes the show compelling they are selling a perfect image or dream but reality is darker and more ambiguous.

[@h20knife74]

Does anyone know the name of the actress who played Rachael - she defined her character in her mannerisms - the way she held her cigarette - how she sized the situation - how she knew the counterpoint to Don: his carnal physical appetite; her restrained sexuality and overt sensual intellect - all this before she said a single word...

[@RioMadeira]

Maggie Siff

[@Sopranos44]

She also has a featured role in "Billions"

[@Smokealotofblunts]

Don’t forget sons of anarchy

[@Punnybone55]

This is what Wikipedia is for. ;)

[@AnnaLVajda]

So flatter the daughter and make the old man nostalgic thus promoting the romance of risk while reassuring them it's well thought out OKAY THEN.

[@dondraper7439]

Rachel is so beautiful

[@MarkMcAllister-ni9sf]

@@life4fireforever273 We are brothers...I am a Scottish American and have fallen for so many hot Jewesses...not surprising, we Scots are the other "chosen-people"...look at any world changing invention or science...you will see 2 jews, 2 scots, and 1 American or Englishman.

[@MarkMcAllister-ni9sf]

and 1 German.

[@NotShowingOff]

Life 4 Fire Forever sift Is part Jewish, part Northern European. The features are Northern European.

[@TheWinterShadow]

She was ugly.

[@era_emissary]

Yes... but alpha men don’t marry alpha women.

[@enterEsMANIA]

Rachel Menken = GODDESS.

[@JeffreyGillespie]

So is Wendy Rhoades

[@samihaboubi6366]

Simp

[@ursulajoni15]

Not sure if it's intentional or not but I think it's interesting that Pete talks about what ladies like waiau basically actively ignoring a woman who is right there in the room with him and in a decent position of power in this situation. I think the very indicative of the way women were treated in the 50s and early 60s. it was very common back then and to a lesser extent now for men to assume that they understood women better than women did

[@listrahtes]

They made a great potray about first generation kids that still knew the poor beginnings Nd hard work . You get Rachel Modest, humble and thankful. You remove that several generations and end with Paris Hilton or Prince Harry.

[@contact4josh]

0:51 It's Cole Phelps!

[@cheeseUout]

"It does seem very well thought out" "It is" "STFU *smake*"

[@celebrim1]

Don't get in the way of the customer agreeing with you.

[@AntonioCostaRealEstate]

Old Menkem had it right, Don and the gang had it wrong. Incremental changes , for a curbside store would be ,in line. In retail, the name of the game are margins and inventory turnover. Old Menien knew the value of the square foot not to be wasted. That is where Impuldr buying comes to play.

[@Woblesavvy]

I miss Salvatore and Paul.

[@jamesdesomma3639]

Maggie Siff is gorgeous So much prettier here than in Sons of anarchy

[@mattmcevedy9982]

James Desomma watch Billions

[@Punnybone55]

Women were allowed and expected to look and dress like women in the 60s and most of them looked a lot better. Androgyny is comfortable but you lose a lot imo

[@billbrimmer1739]

The actress playing Rachel in 2019 is a regular in the show “Billions.” Beautiful and has great acting chops.

[@frankfusco2819]

She also played Jax' wife, Tara, in Sons of Anarchy. Her name is Maggie Siff. She is an excellent actor.

[@classicaldeb]

Indeed she is! Maggie Siff.

[@byronw0]

And this series wasn't just thrown together, very, very well thought out.

[@timothyernest6429]

Pete always chiming in awkwardly and over doing it too enthusiastically ! "IT IS! "

[@hallu7477]

hahaha yeap

[@laminage]

Don was so right on about time changing and moving on. Berry Gordy The Founder & President of Motown Records didn't listen and lost some amazing acts because it was "My Way Or No Way!" If he had listened things would have been different. Also I remember as a Kid 1975 was slowly going downhill especially since The Philly Soul Sound was taking over.

[@christiansoldier1968]

Please talk more about this “Philly Soul Sound”. To which acts are you referring? Sincere question.

[@laminage]

The OJays Billy Paul TheThree Degrees amongst others.

[@laminage]

@@christiansoldier1968 They really gave Motown a Run for their Money. Kenny Gamble & Leon Huff met in an Elevator and one of their Earliest Songs was "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me", that was later Covered by The Supremes & Temptations in 1969. Kenny Gamble went to School with Daryl Hall in his Pre Hall & Oates Days. Other acts were Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes (featuring Teddy Pendergrass). In The UK the Songs have reached a whole new generation of Fans since they have been covered by Artists. Simply Red, Dusty Springfield, The Communards, and snippets were sung on The UK Version of The Office & The Soap Opera The Doctors.

[@garyaugustus1009]

@@laminage ......All excellent points, but Daryl Hall went to school to study journalism. But you're right about the inflexibility of Berry Gordy. He was stubborn to Marvin Gaye's, 'Whats Goin' On' and wouldn't produce it. Said it would be a flop... Marvin had to produce it himself, and the rest was recording industry history.

[@christiansoldier1968]

Had no idea about that history. Thanks for telling the story. All of those were such great acts.@@laminage

[@myhodgepodgeheart9298]

I wish we still had big retail.

[@Punnybone55]

With the speed and convenience of online shopping were lucky we still have small retail. Some things I hate buying online, like shoes. But I doubt my grandkids will have a choice

[@realazduffman]

Typical consultants. Tell a guy who built a business they never even shopped in how he is running it all wrong.

[@mikepeterson764]

Typical clients, asking for my help and expertise and not liking what I have to say, so they ignore me, and then they go out of business.

[@SteveNelsonBrigade]

The context is that they're giving Rachel what she wants.

[@bruhbruh112]

@@mikepeterson764 Wow good rebuttal.... I see both sides. Gotta lean towards you though... they know sales are falling and came to you for help. I do think Mad Men should have researched more on the store though .

[@bryangan2224]

Typically, if a client asks for help, they are already doing something wrong, they just don't know what.

[@lnhart7157]

I mean, that's literally what the client asks for, and pays them for.

[@HavanaSyndrome69]

I love how Pete Campbell is so unlikable that literally ANYTHING he says, ANYTHING at all, serves to detract from overall picture. That little, "It is!" at the end of the clip when the old Mankins man says, "It does seem very well thought out" followed by Pete's pathetic, "It is!" as if he worked on the proposal all night long with his crayons while laying on the bedroom floor surrounded by toy cars and plastic army men.

[@edwardpate6128]

Rachel was smokin hot!

[@SasfootBigsquatch]

I love how the video ends as soon as Campbell opens his mouth lol. I can't stand him.

[@faisall6364]

I love him

[@chrissaenz6213]

"You want to know the first rule? You never open your mouth til you know what the shot is". Pete nearly took Don's pitch off of Don's trajectory. "You fucking child".

[@timothyernest6429]

He's such a kiss butt .

[@timothyernest6429]

Annoying.

[@Originalcopy20]

@@chrissaenz6213 Yeah, what a 'big man' he was. And then something with chewing gum

[@rickrose5377]

I have never been able to watch this show in its entirety -- only in clips -- so I don't know if this point has been made before, but there's a wonderful irony here, probably intended by the writers. The most FAMOUS Mencken -- the writer and Baltimore Sun journalist, H.L. -- was a pretty notorious antisemite. And here it is the name given to this Jewish family and their namesake department store.

[@nathand4500]

you're overthinking it

[@rickrose5377]

@@nathand4500 Don't think so, gd. It's fairly widely known. And a writer especially would be aware of it. Just the sort of in-joke a script writer would trade in. And it goes straight to the theme of the Jew as outsider to a WASP, Madison Avenue ad agency.

[@TheBelletgirl]

I miss Rachel Menken! She was a great foil for Don.

[@Hibiscus123]

Rachael was too smart for Don

[@whanethewhip]

Even 12 years ago, 240p made baby Jesus cry.

[@TheAllReview]

"It is" - Said by The Douche.

[@darbyheavey406]

Never interrupt when the clients is saying yes….

[@igulinox]

That lady should come back to the series.

[@atimko123]

I was expecting the line..." you have to break a few eggs to make an omlette...or in this case a soufflé "

[@jacktheladstevens]

I am an idiot, it's taken till right now for me to realise Maggie Siff who plays Wendy Rhoades was also in Mad Men as Rachel. How the fuck did I miss that considering how many times I've seen both dramas.

[@tommytimp]

She was also very good in the increasingly ridiculous Sons of Anarchy. Some of the best hair on TV.

[@ashannet7265]

Tara Knowles

[@laminage]

He's got to remember that alot of Dept Stores have had Restaurants. They want to "Change" but they don't want to "Pay" for the effort. It takes Money to Make Money.

[@AntonioCostaRealEstate]

The evolution of Food Courts on Malls.

[@TerryKeefeMedia]

Don is obnoxious here when he proclaims "You don't have anything." It was a successful business, even though sales were going down. And they were taking a big risk closing for months for a very costly renovation that may have not worked.

[@bogdanlevi7483]

You just said their business had been going down, lol. No risk, no profits.

[@goo8295]

Don didn't start with nothing. He started with a stolen identity.

[@misheelbayasgalan2678]

Ken is smart for staying single and waiting for the right woman. If only Don Draper did that and married Rachel.

[@markdubois3614]

I know why people watch this show now people feel very strongly about it.i tried to slow my smoking down watching this show made me smoke more its been off the air for awhile now.maybe all take another crack at stoping.

[@bossgandy]

When Rachel makes a comment, Don doesn't answer her rather he addresses her father, such disrespect :)

[@celinemartin4686]

Maggie is brilliant in everything this, sons of anarchy, billions, her independent films are great to.

[@celinemartin4686]

@daAnder71 got a problem.....

[@mybabymaradona]

Rachel is amazing! Regardless to Don.... The actress is great!

[@sanekabc]

Do we ever find out if the store is doing better with the new plan?

[@erwind1257]

No, because it's not important. The pitches are just ads themselves to inject meaning into the characters' existential struggles.

[@davidalan6354]

There’s some evidence. I read somewhere that Don receives a shirt from Menkens and I guess that is a sign that Rachel ended up getting the type of clientele she wanted.

[@kevinbergin9971]

Would an ad agency actually be this involved in recreating a news store format? Sounds like the marketing dept would either runs this up a flag poll or not?

[@mprkg]

The 3 most important people in Don's life- Anna Draper, Betty Draper, and Rachel Menken all died from Cancer, and all smoked! Anna Draper smoked weed and I think cigarettes. And as soon as Sally tells Don that Betty is dying from lung cancer, Don lights up!

[@gailwebb9619]

Agree. And both Anna and Rachel came to him in death....they were very important to him....

[@pedobear8071]

the "it is" at the end. pretty much me whos been quiet all meeting but needs to say a word so people know i exist🤣🤣

[@philswaim392]

Pete at the end "it is" shut up pete. Client is about to say yes. You shutup when the client is about to say yes and let them say it

[@lighthouse44]

"It is". Yeah, thanks Pete.

[@dsn1964]

Gotta respect the early Jewish experience in America. Rachel's dad epitomized that. They really DID come here with nothing......chased out of their countries by pogroms and discrimination. They also made up a HUGE part of the early toughest gangs in NYC and Chicago in the late 1800s and early 1900s. But. They scrabbled for their piece of the pie....and guys like Menken hit it big. And they got out of the ghettos (and the gangs) damn near overnight. That actor played the part perfect. Regarding Don's 'flings'......the hottest was probably the schoolteacher (followed very closely by Rachel). The best 'match'........age and experience-wise........was probably Faye (followed closely by Rachel). I guess overall the best 'catch' for any man in their 20s and 30s would be Rachel. Sad how they killed her off at the end. But.....like her sister said at the 'wake' (whatever they call a wake in the Jewish faith)........she got everything she wanted. And no.......I'm not Jewish.....lol.

[@Punnybone55]

I think the schoolteacher was the best match for Don. Rachel too but as others have said that mixture was too combustible to last. It was so sad that he was with the schoolteacher when Betty learned his true identity. If he could have bailed on Betty then as abruptly as he did later on Faye I think he and the schoolteacher might have lasted. Im NOT saying or suggesting that people should or should be able to bail on their families abruptly, but just in terms of a fictional storyline or who Don matched best with i vote for the schoolteacher

[@jimhagan4990]

Jews ran the slave trade and men like Judah Benajmin ran the confedreacy. There may be a certain kind of Jew that "started with nothing" but the real history is more complex.

[@dmgnh2007]

Very classy show.

[@SamHusseini]

Hilarious: "Well do whatever it takes."

[@annalisavajda252]

Well they neighbor Tiffanys so they don't want to be just a discount department store anyway did people who say Don and Rachel should have been a couple forget Don was still married then? She doesn't want that sort of emotional entanglement either she said she's never been married because she's never been in love doesn't mean she wants to usurper Bettys boy either.

[@NeuralNetProcessor]

Oh my God, around 2:40 they do the closeup on her and it's amazing. What a goddess she was! I adore Rachel.

[@mchaeltebo786]

I wonder if this episode, is based on Bergdorf Goodman? Which, is now looking at potential bankruptcy.

[@vikramparmar8093]

Of course yes. it is absolutely about it

[@marcbrowna8936]

Funny that the King Arthur ad played before this clip. Jax and Tara together, but in completely different roles.

[@KateLicker]

Did not realise that, have to take another look at it..

[@maxbrazil3712]

That woman makes me growl in an extremely primitive way.

[@ashleyonix4622]

lol

[@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj178]

Don has no idea he’s just met the love of his life, and will be attending her shiva in a few years time.

[@Nicebitoftucka]

Rachel, then Dr Faye were the best women

[@epollinger1]

You would think he could have found a better place to spend $6 Million dollars.

[@SugarHoneyIceTea90]

Am I the only one that thinks her and Don look alike

[@timothyernest6429]

Yeah they are both physically beautiful!

[@hallu7477]

yep!

[@calipdis2]

I could watch rachel debating and arguing in a boardroom all day, she is eye candy!

[@bogdanlevi7483]

Too much makeup aka war-paint, fake eyelashes, too much jewelry and too few words. Not that elegant at all - just an empty poser.

[@classicaldeb]

She is in Billions too!

[@howtodoitdude1662]

I misread, I thought it said bedroom scene. I still think it was subconsciously click bait.

[@classicaldeb]

Whoa, Maggie Siff!

[@Lafayette320]

Rachel Menken is the hottest among the women who've been Draper's side action!

[@ArmyJames]

Lafayette320 I don’t think he ever actually fucked her.

[@Lafayette320]

@@ArmyJames, I think you're right about that.

[@allannicol199]

No,they did get together.When Campbell discovered Don' s real identity& Don thought he was going to be finished,he wanted Rachel to run away with him & she dumped him.

[@KateLicker]

@@allannicol199 ouch!

[@Lafayette320]

Look how sexily Rachel smokes her cigarettes!

[@boomerlady]

I remember those stores

[@GiantSandles]

I thought the point was that he isn't really a great ad-man anymore. And I didn't really mind Don's storyline in season 6, I thought it was a great arc. I didn't really enjoy watching the whole '50 shades of Draper' bit, but the rejection at the end was a great moment in terms of character development.

[@brettzforeman]

The point isn't that he isn't a great ad man any more; going into Season 1, Don is more of a *local* legend then the titan he eventually becomes, but women are a powerfully emergent buying group. Since the vocabulary of marketing was calibrated for a world basically owned and run by men, this contract represented a confident operator struggling unhappily with a playing field that has changed in ways that feel threatening to him. In typical form he throws a tantrum, isolates himself, meditates on the problem and then seeks to see the problem through the eyes of the person he doesn't understand. For reasons anybody who has seen a season of the show knows, Don is very good at eventually learning to see things from others' point of view.

[@lydiaanderson2870]

@Hello GiantSandles, How are you doing?

[@boum62]

I wish the adverts were quieter - I would be able to watch them rather than turn them down :9

[@KateLicker]

ditto when I'm watching TV...every fkn add which resolves to double or triple in volume, gets muted and not heard at all..

[@JasonAlredge]

What about season 6? Is Don the same person as in the beginning?

[@dogkungfu8510]

He is not. He actually grows up.

[@timlarsen1597]

What's Tara doing all dolled up? Did she ditch Jax? What show is this?

[@48webber]

rite or wrong, daughters always stand for their dad

[@markmarderosian4025]

Wasn't this store owner the psychiatrist on MASH? Nice work.

[@starguy2718]

Sidney? I believe so.

[@Punnybone55]

No, that's not Alan Arbus

[@luislaplume8261]

Who needs an economics class when you have Mad Men to learn from? Too bad I grew up in NYC during the Mad Men era. Then most TV stations were regular broadcast not cable.

[@rapunzelagain]

Sometimes I forget how much Don has changed. He's nothing like this in the current 5th season.

[@studinthemaking]

Which episode is this from?

[@jimcardillo7957]

Season 1, Episode 10; "Long Weekend"

[@confirmhandle]

That's what Rachel's doing before billions

[@RuthJohnstonaworldofgoods]

Is Mr. Menken played by the guy who was the doctor on The Love Boat?

[@Edinboron]

No.

[@awwwyeaboyeeee]

"It is." *bitchslap*

[@bluesbass209]

Hi, can I know what season and episode it is?

[@jimcardillo7957]

Season 1, Episode 10; "Long Weekend:

[@timothyernest6429]

Pete the suck up and apple polisher is so annoying , yes?

[@maxhalsted5381]

Pete tries too hard at times. That comes off as arrogance. Don is the epitome of cool, self confidence and charm. Pete was jealous

[@anthonycampos8057]

HEY!!! Thats Jax Tellers woman

[@christopherburke4235]

What does the Marble Palace line mean? Is Don talking about the hosiery store or Menken's?

[@vikramparmar8093]

the current store that they are in is the marble palace they bought for a couple of shekels when the previous owners lost everything in the 1929 crash and had to unload it.

[@davidalan6354]

@@vikramparmar8093 so they are Re doing the entire building or just parts of it. I never understood this pitch. Is it trying to get the store to look better? How would you advertise that?

[@vikramparmar8093]

@@davidalan6354 The store is a traditional New York high-rise of 6 to 7 floors each with a different department. The ground floor needs to be gutted and made it into a restaurant café/lifestyle. An impressive welcome for the rest of the store

[@davidalan6354]

@@vikramparmar8093 ohhhhh ok thank you bro cause I was confused as to how a ad agency can do all that. I don’t know why I was under the impression it was one store. That cafe would probably bring in on attract the type of Customers they want

[@vikramparmar8093]

@@davidalan6354 All the big department stores in cities like New York and San Francisco are multiple floors with each floor having different sections like women’s clothes men’s clothes children’s clothes housewares. The ground floor is basically a lifestyle section. You see that in every store these days.

[@Loseinpoker]

the daughter suppose to stay but due to conflict schedule with SOA

[@RUdigitized]

that ending was perfect lol