Madame Web & Three Hour Hunger Games Prequel - The Weekly Planet Podcast

[@StewartFletcher]

"Alright, calm down, nerd" has gotta be the funniest thing ever said by a man who, for a decade, has made a living off of comic book news

[@Stache-Man]

The fact that Sony made a madame web, kraven, venom, and morbius movie before just a regular Spider-woman movie is the most insane out of touch shit I’ve ever witnessed.

[@nailinthefashion]

Or Knull, or live action Miles, or from a more relatable villain's perspective like a Vulture true origin like......

[@TonyCT7567]

It’s just sad at this point. Can’t Sony just stick to making awesome Spider-Man games?!?! It’s literally the only thing they’re good at when it comes to Spider-Man! And Spider-verse of course but still. Stop making these random ass movies about characters no one gives a shit about if they don’t have fucking Spider-Man I’m them!

[@li-limandragon9287]

@@TonyCT7567 Sony refuse to be consistent.

[@LHollan]

The movie Madame web is also about spider women

[@khorne41]

Pretty sure they are tryna ruin movie spider-man at this point

[@kingfield99]

Guys, guys, guys, please, 'Knowing' isn't a 'Power' it's just something Nic Cage, the actor Nic Cage, figured out through research and brain use.

[@boss-anova]

And most human brains have a bluish hue because of its lack of exposure to air, Making all of knowing have the working title of "Blue Harvest"

[@johncampbell9448]

It’s true.

[@whenallelsfails21]

How could they not "know" this?.... ...eh? Eh?... ...I'll just leave

[@bengals2126]

Pretty powerful imo

[@Diditallforthexp]

I tried to meet Nick Csge once but his security tripped me to the floor and Mr Cage slapped my bottom twice. He told me not to get up and he stared at me as he walked away until he walked around a corner. Then he peeked around the corner to check if I moved. I treasure that memory.

[@KungFuWombat]

So glad the lads finally got around to talking about Snake Eyes. Long overdue.

[@tigamaki1345]

For what it's worth, I'm under 30 and still enjoyed the Record-o Montalbán joke. He was one of the highlights of Spy Kids when I was little

[@krishp1104]

ah so your 29.99

[@nova3752]

Okay boomer. Sit down

[@tigamaki1345]

​@@nova3752 ...very much a millenial lol. but ok zoomer :3

[@miaborges3674]

Yes!! Same!! As soon as I got the reference, I was thinking "OH the grandpa from Spy Kids!" 🤣🤣

[@nova3752]

@@tigamaki1345 uh oh, little doughboy got mad

[@Codafin]

Finally we move closer to what the people have been asking for for years; a crossover between Madame Web and Morbius kudos Sony!

[@aidanrogers4438]

Get ready for 2 Morbillion at the box office!

[@nailinthefashion]

That's what baffles me. We don't get a Knull film. We get Morbius AND Madame Webb first. That's so silly. The symbiotes are the most successful spin offs of the Spideys other than Silk or Miles and they took this long to get around to them. That's insane. Don't they like money????

[@alwaysxnever]

​@@nailinthefashion do you really want Sony with the scripts they have been doing. Tackling Knuckles? No ty. Besides Madame Web is a hold over from all the previous Sony workshops. The Already spent the money on it. 😅

[@nailinthefashion]

@@alwaysxnever yes, I want them to tackle Knull with Marvel's help like they did with Tom's Spidey who is universally beloved lol. It's not rocket science and the presence of bad or the idea of perfection should never stop you from trying to achieve good, but the general audience is fickle so I don't blame you

[@mourad505]

The two most popular characters from the Spider-Man franchise!!!

[@KaliWaggles]

After watching around 30 seconds of the Madam Web trailer I genuinely had to check the account that posted it as I was convinced it was a fan made trailer.

[@nova3752]

You're not very bright are you?

[@ellaisplotting]

I don't know why, but I was surprised that the film titled 'Songbirds and Snakes' actually featured songbirds and snakes as plot points and it wasn't just a tortured metaphor.

[@harmonyislandtaiwan]

Doctor Doom should be played by Billy Zane, his handsomeness being a great contrast for having to wear the iron mask...plus he's got them chops, I agree he would have been a epic Lex Luthor, too...

[@MrMario-tc8sl]

Of course Napoleon comes back, he's in Bill and Ted's excellent adventure.

[@TheDelinear]

Where he finally wins the battle of Waterloo.

[@davidblank420]

What a tangled Madame Web we weave. "David, get out."

[@nailinthefashion]

Ughhhhhh Davey go watch a sunset .... or climb up a waterspout, I don't care,

[@davidblank420]

@@nailinthefashion you need more makeup. It looks....great

[@nailinthefashion]

@@davidblank420 said every straight male ever lol I hate you and your taste too buddy They never take a joke and then go for appearance based insults EVERY time

[@kylerswamp1075]

"He caulked up all his holes!" I died laughing for 5 minutes couldn't breathe...

[@TollusRollus]

also, the chat about "they wanted Jake Gyllenhaal for Reed Richards" chat is insane, as he was Mysterio only a few years ago

[@NateBeeman]

I was surprised they didn't mention that

[@nailinthefashion]

Now that the multiverse is busted expect at least one recasting like Chris Evans as Johnny again or Matt Smith showing up again. I don't put anything past them

[@NateBeeman]

@@nailinthefashion Probably in Deadpool 3

[@nailinthefashion]

@@NateBeeman and Secret Wars. We will see dozens of Thors form the Thor Core and whatnot. DP3 will be focused on mutants so we'll probably see the Jean Greys back, or at least I'm hoping so.

[@NateBeeman]

@@nailinthefashion Is Secret Wars still happening?

[@SeelkadoomandJokic00]

The Plot to Madame Web is an actual adaptation to a comic arc called "there can only be one"/ The Charlotte Witter Story. It's the 1 story where Madame Web has been cured of her illness & regains her youth while her granddaughter is out trying to kill other Spider-Women. The only difference here is Web is young cause origin, granddaughter is replaced with Ezekiel, & while Mattie Franklin & Julia Carpenter are in the movie, Jessica is replaced with Anya Corazon. All of them is Spider-Woman except Anya who was Arana or Spider-Girl. Also Fun Fact Julia was called at one point Arachne.

[@bigburt04]

So you’re saying it has nothing to do with that original comic arc you mentioned? If you didn’t mean that, I’d prefer the word mutation or abomination vs adaptation.

[@SeelkadoomandJokic00]

@@bigburt04 No I'm not. I'm saying it's a loose adaptation, the story wasn't about Jessica Drew & she isn't important to the original story, so Anya replacing her is fine. The only real difference is the circumstances of Webs youth & Ezekiel replaces the antagonist, however IN THE TRAILER he performs the same role Charlotte Witter did, which was trying to absorb the girls life force & powers. The whole main plot is Witter trying to absorb & kill Spider-Women & Web trying to get them together & save them. It's also deliberately taking story beats from it because it's 1 of the few times Web regains her youth in the comics AND is the first Mattie Franklin arc, THE most forgotten Spider-Woman, who is in this film.

[@LHollan]

Really interesting man

[@JoolsyB]

The bones & ghost of Michael Jackson - I spit out my coffee 😅😂

[@Jllyrol311]

I meant to write in about Robodoc, but I’m glad you shared the most memorable part.

[@videogamenostalgia]

The best way to salvage Anyone But You is if it ends with them getting married and the priest asks if there's any objections and you hear a voice saying "Yes, I object. It's me: Doctor Michael Morbius", and the movie is revealed to be a surprise prequel to Madame Webb, and is part of the Sony Spider-Man universe

[@romulusnuma116]

I think that Sony should sell the rights to thr spiderman characters they own to DC because it would be funny

[@TollusRollus]

They should definitely add Mel Gibson to the "This Guy's Never Gotten Into Trouble, Cast Him as Dr. Doom" list

[@chrissadler6459]

Since sarcasm doesn’t translate, I’ll assume this is straight Snark

[@nailinthefashion]

God I'd love that. He'd really portray authentic hate for mutants

[@TollusRollus]

@@chrissadler6459 No, I'm serious. Mel Gibson is a piece of shit. And yet somehow he keeps getting work. The boys were being sarcastic by saying that known scumbags should be considered for the role.

[@wontorres]

The casting list and "Recordo Montalban" got me this week

[@DJDCBRRS3]

I'm so glad you guys brought up Nick Cage's Next... that was the first thought I had when I watched the trailer lol

[@chrissadler6459]

Knowing what’s Next

[@videogamenostalgia]

N-Nick Cage's next what? NICK CAGE'S NEXT WHAT?

[@mikemcglasson1286]

@@chrissadler6459 Knowing Next to nothing

[@themikereda]

"He was with my mom when she was in the Amazon studying spiders before she died and also he's got the Nicholas Cage 'Next' or 'Knowing' powers."

[@kevthepoet]

I was not in the least bit interested in Madame Web until I saw the trailer and it wasn't terrible to me so now I'm mildly curious. It looks like a CW show. Which isn't a terrible thing but it's not a compliment for a Hollywood movie either.

[@mirkecWii]

"It wasn't terrible" "It looks like a CW show" Something doesn't add up

[@poultrybird9750]

It is arguably the least bad spum movie, at least looks like it so far. But it feels like they are just grabbing female spider characters and sticking them in there

[@mirkecWii]

@@poultrybird9750 how is it the least bad when it wasnt even released and the trailer is underwhelming to say the least. But I mean if its any better than lets say Venom 1 (which is still the best sony marvel movie) I'd say its good

[@nailinthefashion]

​@@mirkecWiithere is more heart in 3 seconds of Venom than the ~3 minute trailer we got of Webb, it just looks so generic. I thought it was a Final Destination spin off, but it's Sony Disney Marvelized. So gross. I'm happy for those that see it and enjoy it though, I loved the Marvels despite what everyone says

[@LHollan]

Take Care with Disney fanboys they can’t even listen Sony name lol Disney fanboys a angry because they will never get Spiderman rights 😂

[@tiberiushazo6326]

I'm also an Albuquerque listener! Can guarantee people here are very proud of 505. There is no shortage of 505 tattoos.

[@nedrextt]

"What're you doing on Valentines Day 2024?" Lets go watch Madame Web how romantic

[@DogBrainDingus]

Spin a web of love 💗🕸️💗

[@davidblank420]

Will the Nick Cage Knowing/Next powers even work in a Groundhog Day/Final Destination situation?

[@nailinthefashion]

Yes, but you won't like how

[@exzyyd392]

If anything the Knowing/Next powers create the Groundhog Day/Final Destination situation. They wouldn't be avoiding death if they didn't know it was coming.

[@84Reyn]

Great name for the back up recorder

[@Zio_Pepe]

So it seems in Madame web they are trying to make a loose adapt of the general Web of Destiny in the comics, a bunch of Spider - women and also Ezekiel who originally was tied to a Totem related story and about the mystical powers of Spider - man. But he also seems to have the powers of Morlun who in the comics hunts any character with radioactive blood and absorbs life force by touch. It's a bit funny they are attempting to so much around Spider - man mythos and character, instead of focusing on Just Jessica's origins...

[@jbonedowning2996]

Sounds like it’s going to be a mess because they’re shoving to many storylines together just to use as much Marvel IP as possible so they can keep the film rights.

[@mr-pm3jj]

I always name objects in my house. Once had a Ford Windstar named Jean Claude Damn Van.

[@BlamoStramo]

Bumblebee isn't a prequel since it's not taking place before the bayverse movies. It's just a movie set in the past

[@myohmyDesign]

I'm here for the SPUMM… I was not disappointed!

[@MattyBmemes]

Hunger games younger Snow is just hard to portray without being inside his head, he's a very smart but selfish man inside his narration but his actions are much more calculated and polite hard to adapt

[@tiberiushazo6326]

Yes!! In the book, you understand his turn, because that selfishness and entitlement and Capitol superiority are always there.

[@joshuakielty]

It took me watching this to realise he meant to record his friend. I thought he recorded him on the electronic thingy, decided to not use the recording after he played it back and thought about what his friend said but he played it in earshot of the bird and the bird unfortunately picked it up and repeated it. Like I thought it was a genuine mistake and I was really confused why he didn’t tell Lucy Grey.

[@Samael_Morningstar666]

I enjoyed the meme comments on the Madame Web trailer

[@Ruleof2Review]

absolutely loved hunger games. And I loved that it’s so long. It was perfect for what the story is! Keep the long movies coming!

[@harmonyislandtaiwan]

Recordo Montleban, tracking the squeaky sounds of rich, corinthian leather...

[@CDL_Gaming]

21:24 There's a Spider-Man character named Onion Cortisone?

[@freshparkfilms]

13:00 dare I say "knowing next" powers 😅 and my madam web is the one that old and has the word shades/ sunglasses 👓 on while she sits on the cool&strange web throne 😊😂❤🎉

[@Newbyrock23]

I’ve only ever walked out of 2 movies in my life. 1. Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter (book was great tho) 2. Hunger Games Snowday

[@EpicLonelyRussian]

Did they already talk about Loki? Why can’t I find it?

[@rawcollings]

In the 'what we reading' segment of the last week's ep mate! The Marvels episode. It's only five mins or so but James' hungover recap is pretty great

[@davidblank420]

Hungry Games: Bucket of snakes mate.

[@benloud8740]

Calling it now. Immortus was Doom in disguise. He lured all the Kangs to the stadium, then blew up the stadium and stole the multiverse tech

[@peterost7]

Recordo Montalbán is amazing. My wife and I have a bag we use for carrying fish and chips takeaway that we call Lawrence Fishbag. I am a strong proponent of pointlessly naming objects around the house.

[@nova3752]

Boring relationship, isnt it?

[@KidoOtten]

and when you get there you can see a big yellow building. Walk past it and turn left. After about 5 minutes you have peppers and some cucumbers for next year, with the car is coming also

[@The22ndDoctor]

Is it wrong that now I have to buy a recorder, just so I can name it Recorder Montalban?

[@WingedSoda]

Bass popping noise at the begining of the pod (when mason starts talking). Is anyone else getting this?

[@MattyBmemes]

I know it's long as hell but prequel hunger games book is the longest of them all and I'd rather a big long prequel than another 2 partner.

[@mrinalrohilla2654]

Congratulations to all Australian on winning the World Cup

[@mrebear9758]

Thank you, you're a good sport.

[@bct782007]

I’m a Brandon from Colorado, but I don’t remember homework from 30 years ago…

[@Gotham_Media]

I’m in colorado, looking for Brandon now

[@heelmoxley365]

Saw Hunger Games yesterday. Not bad, not great. Give it a 7 probably.

[@MattyBmemes]

It's a pretty decent adaptation of the book, but even with the massive length they have to cut out alot of important things. I think the story just is way better as a book

[@nailinthefashion]

The original "trilogy" of films had all the main story beats but so much was left out or tweaked. The little conversations or interactions between Katniss and Snow laid a lot of groundwork for the prequel that I don't think got translated clear enough. Snow is supposed to feel so slimey and gross that the end of book 3 should make you hate Katniss just the tiniest bit, but I empathized a little too well. At least for me, they played up the sickly old man part too much without giving more of the heinous logic, then they release this and he's hot and giving Slytherin chic. It's just silly, when it shouldn't feel so pop culture, but more like watching a young Hitler.

[@patrickhaley1312]

A three hour hunger games prequel sounds like a really expensive nap.

[@MagicalWellecto92]

Why did they change the intro with that "defenders of the earth" line? Was there a complaint or something?

[@Dorian_sapiens]

If I remember correctly, the reason was because youtube will demonetize videos that use naughty words in the first 30 seconds (or some duration).

[@Brazdon83]

i love the bois defending new mexico green chilis, they are clearly better, for reasons!

[@parkmannate4154]

Congrats to Australia for winning the cricket, with their top player Travis "Dick" Head

[@stirlingalexander9543]

IPODS? i lost it... no setup... hilarious.

[@evananderson1455]

The Napolean moive is the first of 3 movies. The trailors all say "Witness the rise" and all of the battle scenes depicted are from before he crowns himself Emporer. Also, itd be impossible to cover his entire reign and still have the film live up to Ridley Scotts typical quality.

[@MicoDossun]

I don’t care about the Fantastic Four, have no opinions about fan casts, but I do like The Thing and I’m sad that Daveed Diggs doesn’t seem to be happening

[@landotter]

1:11:01 😅the dry laugh

[@gwina64]

My two cents is that there will be more authority members with the engineer who say that superman blows and being nice is lame and doing kills is rad, and the dc superhero’s who are going to be in it will be almost like looking up to superman ( kind of like how they do to Batman in the brave and the bold cartoon ) and the film will be superman trying to show them that his way works so they end up on the right path, I can totally see guy gardener joining the authority briefly because he’s dumb and he thinks they’re more effective

[@alfje5492]

At this rate, is any film maker going to want to work with WB anymore? On an unrelated note, Zaslav's received 250 Million in salary, bonus and stock in 2022, so WB could have paid for a blockbuster (and 1000s of people working on it) and perhaps made a profit on it, but decided to give it all to one guy.

[@claytonkipling9822]

Hey Hunger Games, I'm STILL FULL

[@brandonblahblahblah]

Yes

[@ToasterPizzaFun]

Last Sunday, the Australian cricket team beat the Indian cricket team to win the cricket world cup. This is an occasion where they had to beat a team wearing blue jerseys by scoring runs and collecting wickets, an activity colloquially known as an Australian Blue Harvest.

[@WeeklyPlanetPodcast]

You dog you actually got me

[@exzyyd392]

Someone at Sony watched Bungo Stray Dogs season 2 and went "Yeah we could do that but worse"

[@joek81981]

Scottish deathmetal sensation Halfbrick, with their new album "Drinking My Obvious Vulnerabilities"

[@supdevan6413]

Marvel lawyers would have never let them sign a contract saying only X actor can play X character. That sounds absolutely ridiculous and stupid. A studio would never sign a contract saying they can't recast somebody. No matter how good the actor is, it makes no sense.

[@BaithNa]

But it is strange that only Majors has portrayed Kang when other characters have had multiple actors play their variants.

[@Luminousreign]

Would be willing to bet that if the contract is real it has to do with the fact that going in there are multiple versions of the character who will interact within the same story. Makes it too easy to recast them when the price tag gets gradually more expensive. Disney would 100% decide to stunt recast the last appearance of kang after majors had built the character.

[@supdevan6413]

@@Luminousreign whether marvel would do that or not is not up for debate. I just highly doubt they would sign an actor under those terms period.

[@supdevan6413]

@@BaithNa Not really. He's the main villian of these phases and has a huge audience draw.

[@jazzycat8917]

@@supdevan6413 Kang or Majors?

[@kevthepoet]

Did they ever do a Caravan of Garbage on Defenders of the Earth?

[@futuredozer1735]

Defenders!

[@johnnytacos5529]

Pueblo chilis are from Colorado

[@Kelticfury]

I wish someone would have told me back in 2012 that I was going to have to sit through a three hour prequel to know wtf was going on.

[@harmonyislandtaiwan]

WE THE BEST PODCAST...sixth...

[@dirtycoffee8964]

the hunger games situash is interesting, like with squid games, its part of our past. We were entertained by this. There were no dating apps or hunger games on tv. It reminds me of the premise of cabin in the woods, we are the blood hungry ‘gods’ and maybe theres still a part in some of us that still need that. Not me tho, sick!❤

[@SirAsdf]

Maybe it's just cause I'm so burnt out on the MCU's nonsense, also that I always tend to keep my expectations low, that I'm open to literally anything at this point, but I do like the premise of Madame Web of two people with future sight fighting against each other. I'd like to remind everyone that the DCEU was about 87% crap but then they make stuff like Wonder Woman or Shazam. So a movie being tied to a universe of mostly misses does not mean it's gonna be bad.

[@BaithNa]

Wonder Woman and Shazam were also very early in the DCEU, before they had a marathon of bad movies

[@BlueCheeseLucci]

I'm not accepting trash just cause it's from a different studio especially one that hasn't done anything great in live action

[@nailinthefashion]

People liked Shazam? I have future sight too, didn't see that coming though

[@SirAsdf]

​@BaithNa Yeah and they ended with Blue Beetle, which I'd say was pretty solid.

[@raylder6339]

“Don’t eat so much lasagne, you’ll turn into lasagne.” Versus “Asta lasagne, don’t get any on ya” Which wins?

[@Kaixero]

FINALLY MORBIUS FOR GIRLS ITS WEBBIN TIME

[@fichgo2656]

I say let Sony cook. Their Spiderman movies have so far been bad to mediocre, but I think they're building up to an actual Spiderman. The movies they're putting out now are just the ground work to get their foot in the door, they're not trying to be good, they're trying to lay the way for a new fresh take on Spiderman. Sony has made it clear that all their Spiderman related movies are in the same spiderverse. When everything they've already put out is compared to early MCU movies, it's not that dissimilar. They have some bad (Morbius/Ironman2), some ok (Venom2/Captain America), some amazing (Spiderverse/Avengers). Down the line, I think we can expect to see a version of Spiderman and all his rogues and a whole cavalcade of spider related heroes. Too many people are comparing the Sonyverse to what the MCU has become and not what it was.

[@nailinthefashion]

But I don't want a bubble universe where they superficially toss out projects to just say they did it. I want something like the Marvels that is an authentic exploration of the characters and really fun. I don't want to be patient and have them figure out what they're doing with the spidey women I just want Spider Woman NOW

[@li-limandragon9287]

@fichgo2656 But a Spider-Msn cinematic universe on its own is just duuuuuuuumb. It’s like having a Mickey Mouse movie series seperate from Disney. I’d much rather see Spider-Man just have cool adventures on the street with Daredevil than sitting through a dozen not actually evil spider man villains and knock off Spider people. Spider-Verse gets a pass because takes a different spin on the Spider characters, this is just aping the MCu but worse.

[@nova3752]

Calm down manchild. Simping for bad movies is a soft way to live

[@heelmoxley365]

LUCY GREYYYY!!! I LOVE SHOUTING LUCY GREYYY!!

[@flywheelshyster]

Different this morning, gonna listen on my way to the doctor! but I got my coffee in hand ;-)

[@MrFaceNumeroUno]

YEAHHHHHH BOOOOOYYYYYYSSSSS!!!!!!

[@smacksalad]

DEFENDERS!

[@SaulGMV]

Is coyote supposed to be pronounced like that or is James pulling another “duwarf” situation?

[@bobdylan1968]

Why havent you talked about invincible yet?? Its the besr super hero anything right now. Same with the boys. Blowing the mcu away. Madame web looks pretty great. Not gunna lie. That storyline was actually good in the comics...and i love the idea of an evil spiderman in the past

[@Adamdidit]

David Zazlavs comment about the strikers being right makes me wonder which companies were really pushing to extend the strike and which companies are gonna start making comments like this.

[@rinfinity930]

Do you guys watch cricket? Australia beat us Indians to win the world cup. We are all pretty heartbroken in india, still congrats to you all Australians

[@stefanheinke9975]

It is bizzare, how Marvel ended up this deep on the bottom 😄 You see something coming from it and you straight up know it will be garbage and to avoid it at all costs 😅 And yet they somehow managed to create two excellent seasons of Loki

[@dairycow4466]

Is it just me, or does the intro get more and more compressed every time??

[@harmonyislandtaiwan]

The big headed cute kid characters model is called Chibi, meaning cutesy in japanese, it's been in maybe a thousand anime titles over 20 years...right? Right? RIGHT?

[@NiallByrne]

Is it just me, do we really need an origin story to Madame web. It still could be a Madame Web movie but she has the other spider woman take the spotlight. Why can’t She be the Zordon to the other spider women’s Power Rangers 🤷‍♂️. Just be their leader. I don’t just don’t see the point of making her young.

[@nailinthefashion]

Omg. A Spidey Ranger movie was the answer. Frame it like a mini Avengers moment but contextualize it with spiders, there's so many villains to pull from they could have alluded to Knull but focused on Carnage for example

[@HiddenHandMedia]

​@@nailinthefashionRemember what happened to Shazam when everyone was a Shazam? It's stupid

[@nailinthefashion]

@@HiddenHandMedia no, it's not, because the Rangers are unique. The Spideys aren't uniform, so their powers and personalities shine. My favourite part of any Ranger season is the episode where they figure out their individual powers or how they fight as a team. Moreover, it's not 5 kids with snarky, quirky personalities and the same power set: did anyone complain about No Way Home? I swear, the negativity these days is so stupid, not the concepts. Shazam isn't even a horrible movie, you just didn't like it. Let some things be basic so the more complex ideas can shine too, buddy. I want to see an all female team organically mix, that's so rare in superhero spaces, let alone the Spideys. I dream about a show called Spider Women where each episode focuses on one, and you slowly see how the web weaves together until there's a team up at the end. We severely need a Marvelized Bad Boys with the Punisher and Daredevil too. I wanna see more sub sets of teams, they haven't explore that at all when the Champions are right there, Strikeforce, and so on

[@benbanta2913]

After watching Napoleon this week maybe Napoleon should have been way longer because wow did they not use that screen time well

[@epicbruhmoment6985]

Making the Engineer an outright villain right away seems like such a misuse of the character. In the Authority she's probably the best member, she's the one constantly finding the silver lining and helping refugees while the Authority is just knocking down cities. Obviously characters can be changed but Guy Gardner makes more sense to antagonize Superman than she does

[@michaeljeacock]

I believe Madame Web has Nicolas Cage's Next powers rather than his Knowing powers.

[@cis4659]

hoping this episode would be loki review.

[@BaithNa]

I'm beginning to think that Hollywood hates women because they keep giving them the worst super hero movies, setting them up for failure and online hate campaigns

[@jazzycat8917]

The technical term is "sacrificial trash": when companies make content that is supposed to centre or champion women, or people of colour, or queer characters or whatever, but deliberately make it of very poor or questionable quality, leading to mass of hate and criticism and likely failure which they then use as proof for "see, no one wants this kind of content/these kind of characters"

[@BaithNa]

​@@jazzycat8917I didn't know "sacrificial trash" was a term but that's exactly what appears to be happening

[@Luminousreign]

@@BaithNa You didnt know about it because it isn't a thing lol. The entire idea of online hate campaigns has become part of the marketing. You can deflect away from criticism of the movie by highlighting the most unhinged complaints. They use women as a marketing gimmick, and highlight their involvment when they think a project needs the boost. You never really here about female leads in good movies having a sociopolitical angle. This also means they have to overcompensate in the writing. You can't claim girlpower as a driving theme of a movie and then have a vulnerable character who needs help.

[@BaithNa]

​​​@@Luminousreignthat may be the case but I think they are writing bad scripts, casting women, making bad movies and then using politics as a defense against real criticisms of their poorly made movie. The question is if they're doing this on purpose and with malicious intent. Maybe we're saying the same thing in different ways though.😅

[@Luminousreign]

@@BaithNa They are doing that explicitly.That is what I was trying to say. What they arent doing is deliberately making anything of poor or questionable quality to try and prove that people dont want to watch this type of thing. "Sacrificial trash" isn't a thing, they just accidentally make trash and have to market and release it. They are mishandling their cyncial attempt to capitalize on the social discourse around gender.

[@ewok_soup]

I have a puppy called Dorito Montalban and nobody understands that reference

[@nisiwilli]

I want oreos too...

[@pr0t34n]

I lived in Colorado for decades. Once, I dated a girl from New Mexico who extolled the virtues of New Mexico green chile. It is better, and I don't think anyone would disagree.

[@ManicGingi]

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[@Nixxxy24]

Did Mason suggest some people are listening to this on an “iPod” ? 😂

[@josh--el]

Mockingjay Part 2 *felt* long, and very boring compared to the book. Songbirds and Snakes was long, but to me at least, didn't feel overly long. Maybe would've been better as a miniseries or something, but having just marathoned the first four it was nice to enjoy one again.

[@patricklacey4946]

"fine Corinthian leather"