MADE IN HEAVEN | S01E09 - The Great Escape | Amazon Prime | Reaction, Discussion & Season Review!

[@BharatPremi]

As a gay Indian guy, I was super annoyed with the representation of gay men in Indian cinema. When someone told me there was a good gay love scene in a particular Indian web series, I bought an amazon subscription just for that. So Basically the scene that made you uncomfortable jaby, that's the very thing for which thousands of gay and proud men like myself watched this show. The normalization of sex between people of same gender needs to be done and this show has done that. I usually love your reviews jaby and achara but i feel this show has too many cultural nuances that is impossible for any foreigner to understand and the one episode which you found preachy is I think one of the most awesome episodes, it's a very difficult topic to handle on a web show. Overall, I LOVED this show more so because they have shown leads as Humans and flawed like we are. Thanks for the review !! I have immense respect and appreciation for all the sincere hard-work Jaby and Achara put in for each of their videos, it’s commendable!

[@Aakanksha8jain]

Exactly what's on my mind about this show.

[@aashnabakshi1996]

Good on you Rajesh! We’re all eagerly waiting for the HC verdict now! And I agree, the show has a lot of cultural nuances. Sometimes Jaby doesn’t get jt

[@namratadalal4240]

Sometimes i think he might be a homophobic pretending to be not!

[@rhythm2238]

🙌

[@athithjoseph5307]

This is very true for the scene in this episode in particular. There are a lot of gay love scenes in this series but until this one, they seem very mechanical and I'm sure that is intentional. The scene in this episode underlined the 'love' in the love scene and that is very important. Even in the context of the series and ignoring its importance in normalising non-herero love on Indian media, the scene helped show how Karan's character had grown over the course of the series. As he says himself, Nawab was the only person he had ever truly loved so seeing him giving in to the emotion completely allowed us to see that he was ready for a new chapter in his life. Going from the kiss to the bathtub would certainly not have had the effect because then all the viewers would see would have been another of Karan's hookups

[@sittingduck1735]

Never thought I'd see so many Indians defending a gay love scene against a western man. I love this generation of Indians. ❤️

[@Random-mj5np]

well said..... rlly glad to read all these comments

[@rhythm2238]

Yeah man! This comment section is pure gold.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@ankita7342]

Omgosh. I realised that after reading your comment. It truly is amazing!

[@ankita7342]

@@prateeksingh8815 phir aap kya kr rhe ho yaha, maharaj? Jao jaake dams banao, electricity dilwao gaon ko, desh ko aage badhao. Hum sb to aise hi hai, aap hi special chutiye ho. Chamatkaar karo, prabhu, YT pe time waste na karo, Bangladesh aage nikl jaega.

[@laveenr]

Why everytime it's Achara who understands things better than jaby, god jaby has to grow up a lot, he is still talking like a teen who is new to relationship.

[@anaghkalita5797]

It's so surprising. Never thought jaby is that immatured

[@Redwoodtree34567]

Ikr, I love Achara!!

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@krishnabhakt5029]

Shut Up Man Just Don't Judge...

[@ishwarideshmukh4079]

That is why he breaks up with girls a lot?

[@snigdhabharadwaj3591]

Jeez Jaby there's a thing called moral ambiguity and grey characters and anti-hero type of character that you can still root for because IT.IS.A.SHOW. If its okay to root for characters that are criminals in a show then why not this? Also, about Zoya Akhtar "shitting where she eats".... Of course! They are writing about the world that they have lived and know through and through. Especially given that she has lived both as a middle class person after her parents separation and as a high society person in the present.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@awanishkumar4054]

It is embedded in Indian culture and it is okay if they don't get certain things. But Achara at least tries to understand it. Jaby on the other hand, has his own set of pre- established notions and wants everything to fit within that and gets annoyed if the show doesn't do so.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@ankita7342]

TRUE

[@krissansayter3722]

Jaby says he doesn't understand but when achara tries to say something to make him understand he just shuts her up and continues his rambling like what is up with that, if this is a discussion then let both parties speak, but really love the way Achara told him to shut up and let her complete first. I really like the way Achara puts forward her views she is not aggressive unlike jaby and actually makes the audience understand her thoughts. And the thing about Jaby being confused about Tara's character what is so confusing about it she is a grey character its okay if you don't understand whether to feel good or bad about her because that is how her character is written also the jewellery she took was her own that she got gifted at different points of time during their marriage so no she did not steal it she rightfully took what was hers.

[@abdulquadirshekh6409]

Basically tara was a gold digger

[@krissansayter3722]

@@abdulquadirshekh6409 ofcourse she is a gold digger the show did not try to hide that fact at all. But jaby saying she stole the jewellery is not correct at all, those jewellery were gifted to her and she took it that does not count as stealing.

[@rhythm2238]

@@krissansayter3722 girl u are amazing🙌

[@snigdhagarde]

She stole this marriage from another woman, to be with this man. The way she went about it was very manipulative and downright immoral. So anything that she gets from this stolen marriage is stolen. Its like fruit of a poisonous tree.

[@krissansayter3722]

@@snigdhagarde my comment about Tara is on a legal basis and not moral so no she did not steal anything.....

[@meghnade4761]

Okay Jaby, I get your concern, I had to pause the argument about Tara being a destructive character to comment. So, when Tara started out, she saw this world that was shiny and inaccessible, she was in a bad place monetarily more than anything else. So she wanted it, she groomed herself for it. She had more reasons to plot this out than Jim Sarbh's character had to cheat with his fiance. She just tried to seduce him by hanging back at his room or doing some makeup. She didnt force him or threaten him at any point. All of this would not have happened if Jim was a loyal to his fiance. So that you have to give her. She mustve thought that this one act could secure her future and then she has been a loving and devoted wife. And by the end, even that lie she gave up because she understood how hollow that is. She could have played along or actually cheated herself if money and fame was all she wanted. Even bad wives get alimony after a divorce, this jewellery was hers. I am sure she must have spent on heir wedding too, plus given it time and effort. And Jim was the reason it fell apart. So no, she did not run away with the spoils of the war. She took a small part of it that was hers.

[@rhythm2238]

Wow. Thats wonderfully written. I am loving this comment section already. Read this jaby

[@scorpio445]

Jaby.. Some knowledge to fill your head

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@militantatheist]

Come on! You don't have to defend her. What Tara did was horrible, very similar to blackmailing. The guy could have been accused of sharing the video. He felt guilty and had to marry her even though he wasn't 100% sure about it. And you saying how good she is because she just left with some gold and didn't demand any alimony. Well, that's because she can't. Educated ex-wives in India are not entitled to alimony by law. Also, unlike US, Neither there is any law which would force the man to give a part of their wealth to the ex-wife. The existence of these laws in India is an urban myth.

[@ankita7342]

@@militantatheist It wasn't similar to blackmailing at all. It was damage control what Adil's family wanted to offer Tara. It totally depended on the pity they felt for her. But it wasn't some Gram Panchayat's verdict that he'd have to marry her and it was clearly shown that he wasn't bound to. The situation had cooled off organically, but Tara did manipulate him into marrying her which is wrong, but not criminal. Also, not shown exactly when Tara fell for Adil but she did. She was wrong, a typical gold digger but according to me, she's redeemable. But I don't know how things will go for Adil in the future considering he cannot keep it in his pants and has a penchant for cheating and lying effortlessly.

[@irakulkarni5445]

Protagonists can be flawed too, you know. And they weren't glorified.

[@rhythm2238]

🙌

[@shormy4716]

Yeah

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@rahultarkar5164]

Tara is not a protagonist. She's just a manipulative woman. She was working in a good firm. She got a good job. But that's not enough for her. She has to cheat her way into rich people's life and use the money from her rich husband to open a company. If she has any respect left she should just divorce her husband without any payout or she should be charged with Section 420.

[@irakulkarni5445]

@@rahultarkar5164 so you think protagonists should be plain white perfect angels? Move on from the hero-villain concept of the 70s and 80s. This depicts realism. Tara is obviously a questionable human and I don't idolize her. But that doesn't mean her character cannot be portrayed on the screen as the lead. No one is going to see her and be like, "this is what I want to be". The show knows that she has done horrible things and shows it that way too.

[@sansdiane1234]

She took the jewelry because that was her property. Doesn't matter if some of that was gifted to her or she purchased herself.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@pratikkakade6]

By Jaby's logic, no director who has lived a poor life should make a movie/series about how shitty some people are from that strata of the society. Dude Zoya comes from the privileged class that actually makes her a more appropriate person to take jabs at high class people coz she knows them from the inside & doesn't have a cliche outsiders view. Sigh.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@swatisaini6447]

I thought Exactly same👍

[@badave1001]

I completely agree. I don't think he knows what movies Zoya makes in general, like she debuted with Luck by chance which criticised the industry that she grew up in and was to step foot in. Even Dil Dhadakne Do explored the excessiveness of upper class people. It's not weird for her to make fun about upper class, privileged experiences even though shes a part of it. Jaby just ends up sounding bitter :(

[@nishthagupta1357]

Ikr exactly ugh

[@justmundanethings]

Jaby, man understand human character. Everything in life isn’t black and white. You don’t need to empathise with or root for the main character. She is shown as a grey person. She did bad things to up her status in society but at the end of it all, it didn’t work for her. She also did say that in the quest for status/power don’t lose yourself.

[@rhythm2238]

Yes, exactly. Everything in real life is grey and people have hard time accepting that, which is bizzare.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@essee3984]

Well, Tara is a Gold Digger,quite literally :p She's flawed. You don't have to see her as a Saint character.

[@stilllearning6252]

Exactly z that's what I loved about the show. They are all grey. Just like human beings are.

[@rhythm2238]

Just like every HUMAN BEING on this planet. Edit: about saint thing

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@vtenny246]

Jaby Koay is basically Arnab Goswami He keeps asking question why how when but as soon as someone starts answering he's like nonononono i don't really wanna listen......

[@ahanaroy7523]

😂😂

[@akashvasu]

I want jaby to see this. And come to his sense.

[@Ajay-bd2er]

Yupp he messed up big time 😂

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@ankita7342]

Right?

[@davidjuneja]

Jaby is a closet conservative. That side of him comes out every now and then.

[@burfi95]

Kinda true, I was about to say something along the same lines. He's a bit intolerant, or so he shows.

[@shormy4716]

Agreed.

[@girijesh15]

Agreed 👍

[@gagangags2817]

Closet conservative, basically any sane person living in LA!

[@ikr2056]

So True, talking down to someone is not normal within friends or with family, don't do it in front of other people! I think Jaby is not right in this regard and I agree with Achara... Flaws and human is what human beings are... the storylines are all what happen in reality but in not so dramatic manner and not with happy endings.

[@tusharrana5256]

I have generated more respect for you Achara, how you tolerate Jaby's weird thinking n all , is quite praiseworthy ! 🤣😅😂

[@kashishshaher]

Samee tbh

[@krissansayter3722]

Ikr. I don’t know how she does it with jaby's continously rambling. Jaby says he's ignorant but when achara tries to help him with that making him understand he just never lets her finish her thought.

[@tusharrana5256]

@@krissansayter3722 well he's the boss !

[@shormy4716]

I can sense annoyance on her face sometimes 😂 but she keeps her cool and respects jaby's independent opinion. That shows her maturity.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@samruddhisalvi9388]

Achara is always right....jaby no hard feelings but if you don't like the romantic scenes just don't watch it....but I think it's necessary to show these especially gay scenes to normalize gay people having sex and not creep out just like you did

[@Pk5714-]

I'm sorry but he did mention that it's not just homosexual but even heterosexual scenes that make him awkward and it's not wrong lol, I'm not gay but I don't have any problems with homosexuality but I do get awkward watching sex scenes. Again, I don't have any problems w romantic scenes but yea, we exist so..and for "if you're not comfortable just don't watch it" although I tried skipping most scenes the issue is 1) there's no prior warning 2) you miss a lot of story line during these scenes because they chose to shoot it that way.

[@samruddhisalvi9388]

@@Pk5714- ya agreed but saying that the shouldn't have included it was wrong

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@siddharthdhulipala24]

I don't understand why the protagonists should bear the complete responsibility of not breaking the marriages. Didn't Adil know that Tara was flirting with him in the flashback? Why did he entertain her when he was already engaged? Similarly, don't you think Nawab knew there might be a moment between them if he met Karan? Yes, Karan and Tara are majorly flawed, but this whole 'marriage disruptor' tag is not right.

[@Medlifeexhaustsme]

That's what I love about this show, is that no one is black or white, everyone is grey, everyone is flawed.

[@rushabhshah.2768]

Tara became hard to resist she tried really hard to woo Adil, tara was smooth and had practiced her game, it was tara who used to go to adil's office to $ eduuce him not the other way around. Adil loved Faiza, Faiza loved Adil, Faiza's father forced her to marry someone else, she wasn't happy, Adil was sad to see Faiza not being with her, Tara knew Adil and Faiza had feelings for each other before marrying Adil, Tara wooed Adil in the office even though she Knew Adil was with a girl, Adil's firt girl Natasha separated from her after she came to know Adil made out with Tara, Adil was guilt trapped by Tara as the tape got viral, Adil thought Tara's life is ruined because of the tape, Adil made up to her by marrying her, he didn't have any idea that Tara used Faiza and Faiza's connection to get closer to Adil, he didn't have any idea that Tara had planned it all. Adil was being nice to Tara all the time but he never loved her as he always loved Faiza which Tara was aware of but Tara made Faiza her best friend so adil and faiza's lvoe story ends. Adil loved Faiza but still didn't want to separate from Tara because he thought she is in a miserable poor condition, Adil never hesitates in helping and being generous to anyone including Tara, the tape was lliterally used to bblackmail and guiilt trap someone, Tara thought somehow she will manage to win Adil and live a happy rich life. Tara created a scene on the dining table just make everyone think of Adil as a vvilliian.

[@romanarumki4683]

I don't think they want you to feel full empathy or full hatred for any of the characters. They want to show all the aspects including the flaws that make you human and let you take from it whatever you want. That's the beauty of the show or these shows.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@devanshisingh7138]

Did Tara lure him? yes. But in the end it was Adil's choice to do what they did. He would have cheated anyway it is his nature. Faiza wsn't luring him but he did end up cheating on Tara. And he always made a joke out of Tara's background. And the fight on the table was important. When they got into the accident it was a public event. Everyone was aware what was going on...and if Tara would have shied away from the situation without addressing it publicly it would have meant she is doing it fr the money and status, further concreting the theory that she is a gold digger. And she has grown out of her secretary phase....she now knows what a dubious and diabolical thing high table is. Back then she was unaware. She thought this status would fix everything and it will all be unicorns and roses. And yes Adil was joking but the context is important. they are already going through a rocky phase....trouble with pregnancy, cheating and lying etc. your marriage has jus lost face amongst your peers....here when you take a jab like that...IT IS DISRESPECTFUL and Tara knows that he is still cheating on her which further adds to her annoyance. Tara comes first for Adil later only due to business and reputation. In India having a perfect marriage gives a person professionally and personally a lot of brownie points. That is the only reason he is trying to save the marriage.

[@madhurahardikar]

Well said sister

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@ankita7342]

Louder for people at the back!

[@rushabhshah.2768]

I think you are complicating stuff. Things are pretty straight. Adil loved Faiza Faiza loved Adil, Faiza's father forced her to marry someone else, she wasn't happy, Adil was sad to see Faiza not being with her, Tara knew Adil and Faiza had feelings for each other before marrying Adil, Tara wooed Adil in the office even though she Knew Adil was with a girl, Adil's firt girl Natasha separated from her after she came to know Adil made out with Tara, Adil was guilt trapped by Tara as the tape got viral, Adil thought Tara's life is ruined because of the tape, Adil made up to her by marrying her, he didn't have any idea that Tara used Faiza and Faiza's connection to get closer to Adil, he didn't have any idea that Tara had planned it all. Adil was being nice to Tara all the time but he never loved her as he always loved Faiza which Tara was aware of but Tara made Faiza her best friend so adil and faiza's lvoe story ends. Adil loved Faiza but still didn't want to separate from Tara because he thought she is in a miserable poor condition, Adil never hesitates in helping and being generous to anyone including Tara, the tape was lliterally used to bblackmail and guilt trap someone, Tara thought somehow she will manage to win Adil and live a happy rich life. Tara created a scene on the dining table just make everyone think of Adil as a vvilliian.

[@ask_carbon]

Yea Jaby's views/review made me more uncomfortable than those romance scenes.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@pavankalyan2079]

Achara understands better than Jaby... Jaby says he gets irritated with the romantic scenes... So u think game of thrones finale was satisfying one and it as a numerous romantic worst scenes than any other shows

[@divyanshgoel128]

He meant most of the seasons of got

[@Imotion303]

I would also react the same as jaby if I see two men making out... Yeah gays is accepted but the fact is it feels so weird to see our even think about it.

[@kjkls]

@@Imotion303 that was the intention behind that scene. It was meant to make you uncomfortable and make you realise how people like you (preferably hetero) cannot ever see a sex scene as love making. They see the physical lustful part.

[@Imotion303]

@@kjkls I can't understand what you are saying but I would like to disagree

[@kjkls]

@@Imotion303 ok so you don't understand what I'm saying, yet you disagree. Lol.

[@mahhis2193]

Dear Jaby, Don't watch the show if you don't get it or like it. Honestly it's uncomfortable watching you react than the actual shows content or even the love scenes. I agree zoya Akhtar comes from privilege but that doesn't mean she can't comment on the very same thing. At least she's talking about the duplicity of upper crust. She also made Gully Boy. Does she have to be a rapper to understand the struggle. But what irritates the most about your perception is how little you understand women's struggle. In India where patriarchy is still prevalent women have to struggle for everything. Being born rich does not make it easier. And headstrong women are considered to automatically be a bitch. You don't have to agree with the actions of the character but you understand why she does what she does. You be the kind of person who would laud characters like kabeer Singh and Leonardo in the wolf of wall street but won't like if a woman does morally ambiguous things. Please in future don't watch such series. I would not have watched your video if Achara wasn't in it.

[@snigdhabharadwaj3591]

So true

[@irakulkarni5445]

Yesssssss

[@saikumarmorla6672]

Excuse me miss but Jaby Koay already criticized characters like Arjun Reddy and Kabir Singh in his reviews but he vexed with character of female protagonist in this series but he is a firm feminist. There are more female guests in this channel compared to any, I have seen on any KZbin channel because his feminists character. So please consider these facts and don't judge any one only based single episode his opinion.

[@varshraig9127]

Exactly!!..I would have not even bothered to open this video if it wasn't for Achara. And it felt like he was not interested in reacting to this show since the beginning only... Unnecessarily complaining about literally everything!!

[@justmundanethings]

Bang on! Totally agree

[@lakshmi6904]

The show doesn't try to paint any of the main characters as "bad guys". If you watch Rajeev Masand's interview with Arjun, Kalki and Jim; it is clearly stated that the characters are not supposed to be judged despite them being grey-shaded. They are all flawed. They are not evil. And although I'm deeply disappointed(and frankly annoyed) with Jaby's reaction to the show; I still admire him for being honest and open regarding his feelings. We still love you, Jaby!

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@saloniagarwal9321]

Tara did take jewelry from the safe before leaving her husband but it might not actually count as stealing as the jewelry were gifts given to her at different points in their marriage and probably count as "stree dhan" Or woman's wealth under hindu family law. Even if they get a divorce, she'll probably get to leave with the jewelry.

[@anantsharma6365]

Legally she'll get to leave with much more than just that bag of jewellery, but that still doesn't make it morally or ethically justifiable...specially after all that she had done Legally homosexuals can't get married & legally they couldn't have a relationship 2 years back Not everything that's legal is right, & not everything that's illegal is wrong

[@triny89]

@@anantsharma6365 true...

[@Pk5714-]

@@anantsharma6365 well said.

[@saloniagarwal9321]

@@anantsharma6365 I don't intend to get drawn into a debate regarding divorce laws in India. I thought I should put this out there as Jaby Koay seemed to miss the cultural nuance of Tara taking her stree dhan with her before leaving her husbands house.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@DevikaK1293]

The thing Jaby said about the 'men are stupid' comment annoyed me a bit because honestly, Jaby, men have been saying 'women are stupid' for centuries. Not just colloquially, but pretending that it is a science and using it as a reason to keep women out of public spaces, education systems, and absolutely any form of power. I personally don't think that anybody should be making blanket statements either way, not even to make up for centuries of oppression, but to see your hackles being raised by one phrase when women have dealt with it, and still deal with the condescension that men show us all the fricking time, seriously makes me think there is some need for reflection.

[@metanarrator]

THANK YOU! Jaby’s misogyny has always irked me, but the fact that he started the episode with this made me pause and wonder if I really need to continue watching such a man speak.

[@namratadalal4240]

I second you!

[@rhythm2238]

+1

[@anavsk]

Agree but your whole argument as it happened to women all these years so women are justified to make those statements and not be called out for it don't be a hypocrite.

[@prarthanaearla9296]

100% with you on this

[@siddharthmenath]

GAME OF THRONES HAD A SATISFYING CONCLUSION?? TAKE THAT BACK, NOW.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@ManojKumar-hq8vp]

😂😂😂😂 agreed

[@smita568]

Damn yes!

[@flamingo5477]

And Aadil is manipulative too.. even in the last argument he lied so easily.

[@stilllearning6252]

Faiza, Adil, Tara. All three of them are wrong in their places. Lol I just love the balance between their sins in this series. I love how all the characters are perfect grey.

[@rhythm2238]

@@stilllearning6252 thats why the series was loved this way because this is so rarely shown but the irony is everyone is like that in real life, GREY

[@kjkls]

@@rhythm2238 the only grey I love is Christian Grey 😀

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@stilllearning6252]

@@kjkls Dude, that was lame.

[@Priti1998N]

There is a concept of Streedhan in indian culture...Literally means woman's property... When a woman is gifted jewellery from anyone it becomes her property...even if it is a family leagacy..thats why Tara can rightfully take the jewelry and use it.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@Pooja-oo7vt]

Sorry I'm using your comment to put my point across but I want more people to read this. Is Tara a bad and manipulative person for leaking their video to get married and rich? Ofcourse. But the fact that Jaby feels empathy for Adil is ridiculous. Look at the context - Tara has seen poverty and is ready to compromise on her values to get a chance to be rich, Faiza has been in a physically violent marriage with her dad asking her to go back to the same man so she's obviously going through a tough emotional time and in this vulnerable state cheats with an old friend and then keeps cheating. I'm not saying what she did was ok. But both of them come from a desperation/need or vulnerable emotional place. Adil has a perfect fiance and still chooses to cheat on her with Tara. Then his marriage is again going fine and he decides to cheat on Tara with Faiza. He's lying till the last scene to Tara about not seeing Faiza. And you think he's trying to fix things with Tara wtf? He only says "Tara's been through a lot and can't leave her" when Faiza asks if he'll ever leave her and commit to Faiza. This is classic of men/women who cheat, they use excuses and don't commit to the people they're cheating with, continue cheating but also maintain a marriage and all its social advantages. But he's not actually stopping cheating and seeing Faiza. How can jaby bring sympathy for him and just blame it all on Tara! Plus, how is Tara blamed for breaking up a marriage? Yes she slept with a man who was taken, but she was not in a relationship. The guy who's fkn getting married should save his marriage, you're the one taking the vows, the blame on breaking something that was supposed to be important to you - IS ON YOU. Not on the person you cheated with, they were not in the goddamn relationship, they aren't breaking off vows. Adil is not a child, he chooses to cheat multiple times and is just as flawed, if not more than Tara and Faiza. And Tara takes HER jewellery that was gifted to her or she bought after she started earning, she insists on working even when her mother in law tries to discourage it, that jewellery is now hers. Do you ask back for gifts from exes?! And I don't get why Jaby is being all - apparently cheating is not a big deal in this show. This show depicts reality, they're not saying cheating is okay. Theyre showing grey characters. Hasn't jaby himself narrated a life story of a girl he was dating when he was cheating on her with an older woman? (I'm literally stating facts he's mentioned in his own videos rather than revealing his personal life dirt). How Many Girlfriends Has Jaby Had? video says "started dating both DZ and MT without telling them, then told MT after a while and she told me to reveal this to DZ, worst advice". So he himself cheats, doesn't even have the morals to tell the truth to the women unless advised/pushed by others, and is acting all high and mighty here?! Whether it's a marriage or a relationship, a commitment is a commitment. If you cheat in a relationship, what says you won't in a marriage? And Adil cheated, but Tara can't call him out in public? Specially when his accident revealed to everyone that he was cheating and embarrassed Tara so much yet she covered up for me in front of everyone? Even if she hadn't, I don't see what's wrong in calling out the wrongdoer. If Adil calls her out at a later point in front of everyone at the table for leaking the video, I don't see you having a problem with that. Why the hypocrisy? The fact that jaby says "I'm already uncomfortable with hetero stuff going on too long, and then they show two dudes having sex for 5 mins" implying he's more uncomfortable with homosexual men just shows how people who say they believe in equality and freedom can be homophobes inside too. You can see a lot of this stuff in his other videos too, where he'll propagate the whole toxic masculinity philosophy of men don't cry, I'm manly, he's even made fun of a guest on a video when she said she and her husband don't follow gender roles/responsibilities. Also, it's ironic that you're so uncomfortable with intimate scenes but you sexualise Indian actresses in situations that don't even depict anything like that, seriously it makes me uncomfortable how much you do it. Honestly, I wouldn't be able to bear this review if it was not for Achara. She's the reason I watch. Jaby got so defensive when in another episode, a woman got married to an impotent man and couldn't break off the marriage due to a society, he called her powerful when she truly was helpless in that scenario. Neither did he understand why dowry is bad. Achara explained both those instances pretty well, but he was not ready to listen to alternate opinions. You kept saying for 2 reactions if being gay was illegal, maybe you should've researched that and other cultural contexts. What's the point of a reaction otherwise, specially when you're too defensive to understand the issues of a country/culture that the show is talking about, even when achara and the comments explain it to you. Are all men the same? No right? How can all rich people be the same? And even if they are, what's wrong in Zoya Akhtar exposing everything that's bad about the rich high class society she's a part of? Isnt that a good thing? What you guys also did not understand was - yes it seems a bit ridiculous that the wedding planners are helping the bride escape and being the heroes. But also, should they just stand around and organise an event where the girl is being drugged and married off, an illegal act is being committed FFS. they can't contact police because they're bribed and will side with the politicians. Would you do a job where something illegal is being done and be an ALLY WITH THE CRIMINALS? And if you're wondering why I watch him if I have so many issues, I've watched a maximum of 25-30 random videos out of the thousands he has. All of the issues I've written here are always present in any random video of his I've watched, they're just in a smaller dose so the audience doesn't remember and call him out. And I love watching Achara. Edit : Even in Little things s1 e4 and e5 review, he kept blaming Mithila, whereas any indian who saw the show loved both Dhruv and Mithila. How do you always have an issue with female leads?

[@I_got_no_cool]

@@Pooja-oo7vt how much time do you have dude...to write this much?

[@Pooja-oo7vt]

​@@I_got_no_cool You have enough time to read comments so lol. Don't see what's wrong with analysing things, calling out sexism and someone being a hypocrite. He monetises on Indian audiences but doesn't understand the issues of Indian culture and behaves like a manchild. This is my first comment on youtube btw and I've mailed him an exact copy of it too, move on if you want to consume content like a brain dead person rather than being fkn rude?

[@I_got_no_cool]

@@Pooja-oo7vt well i don't have so much time like you to even read so much comments...and i just watch youtube videos to pass my time...not to do analysis...and I wasn't being rude to you...it was just a joke..but i guess getting offended at anything is a trend these days...good for u..go on...write stories in comment section.. whatever makes you happy...i don't even care...

[@sanmitraaiholli8825]

I think since Jaby has been living in America all along especially in L.A, is not that receptive to things which are more progressive than they already are. Achara is more receptive because of her Asian and British culture.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@rohanprabhuram3892]

i would disagree with that. from my perspective LA has a well assimilated LGBTQ population. Jaby has no excuse to be this close minded

[@SiddharthKumar-du7ug]

I'm not letting jaby ruin this show for me!

[@awanishkumar4054]

I love Mirzapur and I love Made in Heaven. Jaby should just watch Disney movies and root for the stereotypical good guy.

[@anaghkalita5797]

Same . I love this show nd I may stop watching his reactions from now one . This was last

[@rhythm2238]

Nobody can if you are clear in your head why you love it.

[@Redwoodtree34567]

It will not ruin anything, it's his opinion let it be that way, it's an amazing show and I personally can't wait for season 2.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@praptisarkar1]

"I just think it's hilarious that women can say "men are stupid" but if two men say women are stupid, that's considered sexist." Lmao. I can't take this guy seriously anymore.

[@vaidyaray7145]

Why does Tara have to be perfect! She is flawed. That's how the character is written.

[@arashyeganeh2721]

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[@varshraig9127]

Did he just say that Game of thrones had a SATISFYING ENDING?? lol then this was definitely not your show As expected even though I liked Achara's reaction I just hated these reactions because of Jaby just like Mirzapur. Made In Heaven is and will always be one of the most INTELLIGENT shows out there and sorry to say but you did not even understand most of the things jaby.... Would've enjoyed this if it was only Achara

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[@stilllearning6252]

True. Although, we all have a different taste. Jaby liked Family Man and I loved watching Syntell as well. I think Jaby isn't much into the heartfelt social issued shows. He won't get them much.

[@varshraig9127]

@@stilllearning6252 Yes I agree...Seems like he only likes a particular type of genre

[@adityan3208]

@@stilllearning6252 I can only find episode 5 reaction of the family man on this channel. Did he delete the rest?

[@Priti1998N]

I agree with Jaby that Tara is an extremely shady character... But I wonder if he was equally appalled by characters like Tony Soprano, walter white or Don Draper... They are equally or more shady.... I have noticed that Jaby usually expects female characters to be more nice and loyal... I am not blaming you of anything, this is what we all have been fed by movies all our lives.. Be it indian or international cinema.

[@rhythm2238]

THIS. THIS COMMENT. Jaby, u need to read this.

[@IdioPie]

SO TRUEEEEEEE

[@scorpio445]

Obviously... He wants female characters to be more loyal coz he has a list of girlfriends in the past.. Every other reaction would be - This reminds me of a girl I used to date 😠😠

[@runjhunp]

Totally agree!

[@rhythm2238]

@@scorpio445 its fine if he has had girlfriends. Thats his life,no one can question it. What we can question is his bizzare views regarding this show because guess what he has asked us to do so in the end, no?

[@raviahuja9287]

In a conclusion... this show neither has a hero nor a villain... it shows the reality that every person has its flaws as well as strengths..

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[@rahulvinalnarayan9743]

The main point of this show was to fight your demons, karma is real and don’t let people walk all over you. I think it made perfect sense and gave a very satisfying ending to be honest because it was freaking real.

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[@ankita7342]

Absolutely.

[@simshing]

Also Jaby, you kept on repeating how Tara is evil (agreed) and that she manipulated Adil (agreed) and that makes her the worst person ever. Let's not forget it was ADIL who was IN A RELATIONSHIP. WHO CHEATED FIRST with her. WHO GAVE IN. That was him. Her moral compass is being questioned sure, but why is Adil being defended? I feel like you have taken Tara's face and put it on one of your exes and have decided to project all of those feelings without seeing how the story actually goes.

[@cautioni]

Jaby you having a stronger dislike towards her than her husband cause have you also noticed it's easy to hate female characters than male characters. Take a pause and really give it a thought.

[@anavsk]

Have you watched his video on Kabir Singh review he criticized the main lead the male character what world do you live in.

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[@RohitKumar-rw7dk]

@@anavsk Kabir singh didn't show the female lead as controversial one. It's a male centric movie. This series shows both the male lead and female lead of a questionable character, and people have a stronger dislike towards the women in comparison to the men. She was in fault and he TOO was. Jaby talks about her luring the boss into infidelity whereas he didn't refuse and didn't take his marriage into consideration at all.

[@vandana770]

@@RohitKumar-rw7dk well said!

[@anantsharma6365]

I think it's less about male vs female & more about how invested we are in the character Adil ws still a secondary character & he ws a jerk throughout the series, & that's why we never get as invested in him as we get in Tara, & that is why her doing something wrong hurts more Fr me Adil ws just as wrong as Tara, but still Tara's actions got a more emotional reaction out of me bcoz I ws more intvested in her character

[@Pooja-oo7vt]

Is Tara a bad and manipulative person for leaking their video to get married and rich? Ofcourse. But the fact that Jaby feels empathy for Adil is ridiculous. Look at the context - Tara has seen poverty and is ready to compromise on her values to get a chance to be rich, Faiza has been in a physically violent marriage with her dad asking her to go back to the same man so she's obviously going through a tough emotional time and in this vulnerable state cheats with an old friend and then keeps cheating. I'm not saying what she did was ok. But both of them come from a desperation/need or vulnerable emotional place. Adil has a perfect fiance and still chooses to cheat on her with Tara. Then his marriage is again going fine and he decides to cheat on Tara with Faiza. He's lying till the last scene to Tara about not seeing Faiza. And you think he's trying to fix things with Tara wtf? He only says "Tara's been through a lot and can't leave her" when Faiza asks if he'll ever leave her and commit to Faiza. This is classic of men/women who cheat, they use excuses and don't commit to the people they're cheating with, continue cheating but also maintain a marriage and all its social advantages. But he's not actually stopping cheating and seeing Faiza. How can jaby bring sympathy for him and just blame it all on Tara! Plus, how is Tara blamed for breaking up a marriage? Yes she slept with a man who was taken, but she was not in a relationship. The guy who's fkn getting married should save his marriage, you're the one taking the vows, the blame on breaking something that was supposed to be important to you - IS ON YOU. Not on the person you cheated with, they were not in the goddamn relationship, they aren't breaking off vows. Adil is not a child, he chooses to cheat multiple times and is just as flawed, if not more than Tara and Faiza. And Tara takes HER jewellery that was gifted to her or she bought after she started earning, she insists on working even when her mother in law tries to discourage it, that jewellery is now hers. Do you ask back for gifts from exes?! And I don't get why Jaby is being all - apparently cheating is not a big deal in this show. This show depicts reality, they're not saying cheating is okay. Theyre showing grey characters. Hasn't jaby himself narrated a life story of a girl he was dating when he was cheating on her with an older woman? (I'm literally stating facts he's mentioned in his own videos rather than revealing his personal life dirt). How Many Girlfriends Has Jaby Had? video says "started dating both DZ and MT without telling them, then told MT after a while and she told me to reveal this to DZ, worst advice". So he himself cheats, doesn't even have the morals to tell the truth to the women unless advised/pushed by others, and is acting all high and mighty here?! Whether it's a marriage or a relationship, a commitment is a commitment. If you cheat in a relationship, what says you won't in a marriage? And Adil cheated, but Tara can't call him out in public? Specially when his accident revealed to everyone that he was cheating and embarrassed Tara so much yet she covered up for him in front of everyone? Even if she hadn't, I don't see what's wrong in calling out the wrongdoer. If Adil calls her out at a later point in front of everyone at the table for leaking the video, I don't see you having a problem with that. Why the hypocrisy? The fact that jaby says "I'm already uncomfortable with hetero stuff going on too long, and then they show two dudes having sex for 5 mins" implying he's more uncomfortable with homosexual men just shows how people who say they believe in equality and freedom can be homophobes inside too. You can see a lot of this stuff in his other videos too, where he'll propagate the whole toxic masculinity philosophy of men don't cry, I'm manly, he's even made fun of a guest on a video when she said she and her husband don't follow gender roles/responsibilities. Also, it's ironic that you're so uncomfortable with intimate scenes but you sexualise Indian actresses in situations that don't even depict anything like that, seriously it makes me uncomfortable how much you do it. Honestly, I wouldn't be able to bear this review if it was not for Achara. She's the reason I watch. Jaby got so defensive when in another episode, a woman got married to an impotent man and couldn't break off the marriage due to a society, he called her powerful when she truly was helpless in that scenario. Neither did he understand why dowry is bad. Achara explained both those instances pretty well, but he was not ready to listen to alternate opinions. You kept saying for 2 reactions if being gay was illegal, maybe you should've researched that and other cultural contexts. What's the point of a reaction otherwise, specially when you're too defensive to understand the issues of a country/culture that the show is talking about, even when achara and the comments explain it to you. Are all men the same? No right? How can all rich people be the same? And even if they are, what's wrong in Zoya Akhtar exposing everything that's bad about the rich high class society she's a part of? Isnt that a good thing? What you guys also did not understand was - yes it seems a bit ridiculous that the wedding planners are helping the bride escape and being the heroes. But also, should they just stand around and organise an event where the girl is being drugged and married off, an illegal act is being committed FFS. they can't contact police because they're bribed and will side with the politicians. Would you do a job where something illegal is being done and be an ALLY WITH THE CRIMINALS? And if you're wondering why I watch him if I have so many issues, I've watched a maximum of 25-30 random videos out of the thousands he has. All of the issues I've written here are always present in any random video of his I've watched, they're just in a smaller dose so the audience doesn't remember and call him out. And I love watching Achara. Edit : Even in Little things s1 e4 and e5 review, he kept blaming Mithila, whereas any indian who saw the show loved both Dhruv and Mithila. How do you always have an issue with female leads?

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[@vandana770]

jaby seems kind of sexist. like in the beginning of the video? when he says "men can't say women are stupid" he SCREAMS 'but not all men' vibes. i was so uncomfortable. and his thappad video he kept making excuses for the obviously abusive husband. and he proudly states he's not a feminist. so clearly he has a problem with women.

[@Evelline]

👏👏👏I wish that he would read it, or at least Achara.. I really loved this series and I'm also not Indian, but I never notice this stupid little details that he notices, I guess that's his character.. And same, love u Jaby, but I could get through this reactions only because of Achara and her perspective

[@scenic_lover]

I don't think Tara is necessarily well written. Most of the times I see her, I just feel like she's hiding herself, hiding who she really is behind the curtain of the class. I find it so hard to believe that a girl as smart as her could really believe that her plan of ruining another marriage, and seducing a rich guy could actually give her a happy life. And her sister too grew up in the same conditions as her who turned out to fairly understand how the world works and where she could find her happiness. So your argument that Tara turned out like that due to her poverty doesn't stand cuz her sister who grew up in the same conditions didn't take such horrible steps for a better life. And hence, I would like to believe that she's a horrible character just liker her husband and well, they both deserve each other. And it's kind of ridiculous that you support Tara and Faiza's mistakes because they were going though "something". I mean who isn't going through something? But who are you as person will be defined by the choices you make in such hard situations. It's these moments in a person's life that define who they truly are.

[@alinachrist8416]

@@scenic_lover In the end we can agree that all of the cheaters (and the abusers) are horrible human beings, yet somehow amazing characters.

[@onalbhandare1915]

Jaby thinks Game of thrones had a satisfying conclusion??!

[@Priya-gc8ig]

Lol.

[@Niranjan037]

he is talking about season 1

[@divyanshgoel128]

Per season, for the most part

[@avitalreja94]

@@Niranjan037 I hope so 🤞

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[@yashkabra101]

The series needed to make a statement. It is a step towards normalising non-het romance on screen. It's sad that you felt uncomfortable, in a multifold magnitude than you felt uncomfortable during a het romance scene.

[@anantsharma6365]

They could have done it without furthering the stereotype of gay men always looking fr sex All of Karan's interactions with any other gay character on the show have always been sexual, except the Landlord They even showed Nawab cheating on his husband.......can't justify that in name of closure...cheating is cheating One of Karan's ex whom one of his friend was marrying, even he tried to kiss him in the washroom while being in a relationship I kinda know that in higher, more liberal strata of society, cheating isn't considered that big of a deal....but it's still icky & on one hand one of the significant plotlines of the show is based on cheating & the makers want us to feel bad fr Tara bcoz of Adil cheating on her, while on other hand almost every other character is cheating without any consequences

[@subhashreemohanta1498]

@@anantsharma6365 That is kind of normalizing it, isn’t it? Everyone cheats, straight people, gay people. Whether engaged or married, Adil (straight guy) cheated and so did Govind and Nawab. Why is a gay person doing it is an act gone too far? The gay sexuality shown was in accordance to the character of Karan. He is a single guy who hasn’t moved on from his one true love. He doesn’t want to get involved in a relationship and just has one-night stands with other guys. Similar representations have been done for numerous straight characters in other shows.

[@yashkabra101]

@@subhashreemohanta1498 I agree! 👍🏻

[@kjkls]

@@subhashreemohanta1498 perfectly explained. Totally agree.

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[@mahbubhasan5212]

Jaby is that kind of guy who can express his narrow and limited knowledge so confidently. And its not just "opinions" .sorry for you bro.

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[@riswanarahim4347]

Exactly

[@architagupta5594]

I didn't really enjoyed watching this review along with them. I loved this show and i love jaby and achara, but since this show was about the indian culture, tradition and everything that i thought sometimes they just don't get for example interfaith marriage, politics, dowry and so much more. And also they had so different opinion about the show as i thought, wow for a change we are able to show that protagonists can be flawed and it's okay, they are human. In short, i had a completely different experience and opinion while watching this show, though it's great to know the other's point of view too. But there are so many cultural references that were missed(ofc i can understand that).

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[@scorpio445]

I actually stopped watching Jaby's reactions for the last couple of episodes for Made in Heaven because he gets on my nerve but wanted to see what he has to say about last episode. He would no problem watching a sex scene between a man and a woman.. But feels uncomfortable with 2 men. He doesn't understand things that happened in India, cultural differences. We are human, we are flawed..main characters doesn't have to be a saint. Thats the beauty of this show.

[@rhythm2238]

And he said he loves watching lesbian scenes...i mean what is he trying to say here?!?!

[@anavsk]

Watching gay sex makes many people uncomfortable but that doesn't mean that you are against that it's just that you don't like watching it similarly my lesbo friend told me she doesn't like watching straight sex scene does that she's against it like seriously men grow up

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[@preetamozarde5040]

Dude, he literally said in the scene between Jazz and Kabir that he had the same problem (about it getting uncomfortable). So it isn't about him being uncomfortable because it was two men.

[@stilllearning6252]

I love the series. This was my kind of Show. I love such heart warming content where social issues are mixed with portrayal of feelings. It was amazing. Karan and Tara's friendship was so refreshing. The best thing about this series is that they didn't stereotyped Gay men. In most of the Indian films, gay men are shown these typical cartoon characters and not depicted seriously. But this is the first series where a Gay man is portrayed with excellence. I literally can't wait for season 2 after this engaging season.

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[@prithvi6499]

Okay i think Jaby is honestly relating the tara and adil situation with his own personal experience. That's maybe why he's feeling so strongly about all this

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[@giggly743]

I don't know how Adil managed to manipulate Jaby as an audience 😂 like she said, he always thought he was doing her so many favors and she was supposed to keep taking it, because he "uplifted" her. She was a great wife to him none the less, supported him, his family, took care of his mum, packed his freaking bag sometimes. Like she said, they are both the same, the only difference was, Adil had an ego about being this manly, smart, Punjabi blood, player.

[@rhythm2238]

Because they have been treated like that all their life!!!!!

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[@goyalakshita1998]

Jaby is bored with indian content now. He is uninterested in knowing other opinions. And that is okay. I really think that he needs a break from all this. He needs to do something else because clearly this isnt bringing any joy to him rn. It is evident on screen.

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[@stilllearning6252]

Man, I agree. He needs to get away with his. I hope he sees this comment. Because he needs to know we won't lash out if he disappears.

[@sourabhbnrj]

Does Jaby knows anything??? Why is he so secluded? Is he from Mars or what? Rich people check on the backgrounds of their would be children in law if they don't come from the right family even in US. Why is he that surprised? Plus sometimes I feel like he really needs to research before reacting.

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[@stilllearning6252]

I think that's his opinion. However, even I agree that Jaby sounded kind of immature to understand this reality. I don't even think that the difference in countries has anything to do with it. It's simple human nature. When you don't have enough you will do anything to become privileged. The coolest thing about the show is that it depicted human beings as how they are. A mixture of good and bad. None of us are complete saints. Jaby should have understood it.

[@saloniagarwal9321]

I think the reason Tara picked the fight at the dinner table was because there were guests at home and she knew it would be easier for her to leave without facing violence if her husband and in laws have an audience at the time of her leaving.

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[@bradfordbadboy6048]

i don't understand how you can be more empathetic towards adil than tara. tara had a reason for doing what she did that you have to try to understand. it seems like you don't even want to try lol. also why is it "she messed up a relationship she's a bad person" but not "he fucked up his own marriage he is unfaithful". she didn't "screw him out of his former relationship" he did that all on his own. lol the double standard

[@shikharbhardwaj3059]

Achara gets indian content so correctly Like so correctlyy

[@anushkagupta6680]

Her father was born in British India. May be genetic situation benefits her. 😅

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[@psivas98]

Jim wants to be loyal because HE HAS A SAVIOUR COMPLEX. You can read up on it. He did not love Tara but she was a charity case for him (he has repeatedly said that to Faiza). Tara blew up because he promised that he won't go back to Faiza but clearly he was still going to her. Also, everyone on the dinner table was talking about aadil's affair in hushed voices and knew about it. Privileged makers are talking about the privileged and calling them out, a technique similar to punching up where you can ridicule those above you in the society rather than punching down, where you make fun of those weaker and lesser privileged to you. The only way to acknowledge your privilege is to call out the issues within you and those who hold the same power as you. Again, each character is a shade of grey. Achara 👏👏👏👏👏

[@rhythm2238]

Well said.🙌🙌

[@parthpateriya2059]

How can you compare made in heaven which is dealing with marriages and the personal problems of the characters to the Family Man which is about a guy fighting terrorism....It doesn't make any sense.

[@rhythm2238]

Exactly😣

[@Redwoodtree34567]

I was confused why they compared that sums up that made in heaven was not a kind of show for them and it's absolutely ok.

[@parthpateriya2059]

Yaa exactly and even if you end it in anyway you like...the ending of the family man is always gonna be the best because the kind of show it is...like literally there is a city which is gonna suffer a gas tragedy... You cant end made in heaven like that

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[@sittingduck1735]

Jaby was so frustrated with this episode. Now he knows how we feel whenever he speaks over Achara's superior opinions.

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[@upmapoha]

Maan, let the woman complete one sentence!

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[@shantanugautam3127]

If someone is not so privileged they will do anything to climb up the ladder, if they can. If their morals allow that and in the initial episode we knew that she doesn't have morals when she told the bride to marry the rich dude no matter what!! On the other hand Jazz has morals!!

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[@ankita7342]

It's like what they did in Parasite. The poor family wants to live the rich life now that they have seen it being experienced by the rich family. For that, they are ready to go sinister. It's not like they have no feelings or no love for members of their own family. They just want the luxurious life so bad.

[@aurilk8524]

It's sad that people don't understand that "power of your position" decides whether you are at the receiving end of sexism, or casteim, or racism etc.. So JABY no, if a girls call men whatever they showed in the episode and girls don't get to be called sexists... It's actually ONLY your privilege of being a man, that you are not at the receiving end of the power structure. I see JABY and many young people now a days trying to be "centrist". I always see centrists as actually right conservative or they don't understand basic norms of society. I am not writing this as a hateful comment. I am just trying to explain something

[@upmapoha]

EXACTLY.

[@anavsk]

Liberals are good at identity politics which you prove just now

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[@aurilk8524]

@@anavsk Everything is about identity. Those who raise at the top identity held at the zenith and is sacred by our social norms are actually the one's having 'lucrative' social identity. So why would they ask for change ? They will conserve the social cultural capital they have, hence 'conservative' Identity politics is justified as long as their are social identities

[@anavsk]

@@aurilk8524 i don't like identity politics because i feel all it does is move people towards segregation rather them bringing them close , maybe that's my conservative thinking and i agree to disagree.

[@nbatman1]

Achara keeping calm and making logical points..! Hail to the queen..! 🙌🏼

[@rhythm2238]

@Sumit Verma dont make it a gender thing please. Lets put it like shes more open minded than jaby.

[@nbatman1]

@rythm22 correct..! 👌🏼👍🏻

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[@iamparkseojun9703]

it is interesting to notice how jaby had no problem with the bridezilla episode. he was laughing and having fun in that episode(so was i!). he didn't take issue with stereotyping women as being bridezillas. in this episode he takes issue with a lady saying 'men are stupid'. men arent stupid but tara's mother in law didn't mean that. she was consoling tara and coercing her to stay in the marriage.

[@anantsharma6365]

In that episode it ws just one girl who ws the bridezilla That one girl doesn't represent women & her being a bridezilla can't be equated to "women being bridezillas" But a generalising statement like "men are stupid" is the same as saying women are dumb, or women can't drive, or women are crazy etc. It IS a sexist statement & no amount of mental gymnastics cn chnge that fact

[@snigdhabharadwaj3591]

Woah woah woah.... Did Jaby say that Game of Thrones' ending was satisfying???? Also comparing that with Breaking Bad's ending?? Dude.... smh

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[@preetamozarde5040]

I think he meant the end of season 1 of Game of Thrones not the series. They've both said the ending to the show was disappointing.

[@david_rose94]

Apart from being wedding planners, they are humans too. THeir actions shown in the video is a symbolism. Like how to tackle injustice, crime, patriarchy, etc.

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[@wrathg]

I am trying so much not to hate jaby for being misogynistic.

[@surajr3284]

when was he misogynistic? 🙄

[@anantsharma6365]

@@surajr3284 not supporting a female character for the choices she makes is apparently misogynistic these days, even if they are wrong choices

[@gonegirl3954]

@@anantsharma6365 it was never about supporting her. He's not understanding that the jewelry and gold she took also belonged to her. He's saying that she took everything (both of their wealth) and ran away, when she only took a part of what was hers. Can't help if he thinks Tara is some Saint and only Adil was unfaithful. She's also flawed equally, *JUST LIKE HIM,* so why hate her for the choices she made? (when ofc, what he did was just as bad)

[@surajr3284]

@@gonegirl3954 i don't think both are flawed EQUALLY.. tara was just way more evil! and jaby never supported adil, wasn't it adil who was getting all the hate till the last episode? so what's wrong with hating tara for all the awful stuff she did?

[@rhythm2238]

@@gonegirl3954 exactly. Jaby is just baised towards jim sarbh. I mean he is good actor but please dissociate the character from the actor now, you guys. We have enough of this thing in bollywood.

[@susmitapriyadarshini678]

Jaby lemme b vry clr widout achara ur channel wudnt hv reached whr it is now....you dnt undrstnd most of the thngs so wen achara tries to say something plz listen to her nd b patient nd calm instead of rambling. U r confused we get it bt if u want to undrstnd den keep quiet nd listen to achara. Tara didnot steal all dat jewellery ..it ws all hers which was gifted to her at some pt in her life or during marriage also wats wrong in hitting at from where u come from!?....do u need to b loyal to a particular stature from whr u come from even after knowing its downsides?

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[@misba28]

Hey Jaby, adding another perspective, relationship history affects certain reaction which arent "normal" Ex 1: women can say men are stupid but men cant say the same, men are at the privileged position, women have been oppressed from ages so when you call women stupid you sound like a bully, same as we can't call oppressed communities stupid, that makes us unempathetic and bully. Ex 2: Jim Sarbh was pulling his wife's legs, that's what couple and friends do, not really when you are already going through tension in your relationship its not the same comparison, Jim Sarbh tried to control his wife time to time by pulling her down and he knew it was her weak spot so no it's not the same.

[@VipashaMishra]

Achara, you deserve your own channel. Such mature commentary. Jaby’s opinions are literally toxic.

[@rushabhshah.2768]

why are they toxic? Jaby's opinions does make sense. See people are allowed to feel uncomfortable while watching explicit content right? He doesn't feel comfortable that is okay. The explicit content is unnecessary and extra in most of the content be it hollywood or bollywood. Things are pretty straight. Adil loved Faiza, Faiza loved Adil, Faiza's father forced her to marry someone else, she wasn't happy, Adil was sad to see Faiza not being with her, Tara knew Adil and Faiza had feelings for each other before marrying Adil, Tara wooed Adil in the office even though she Knew Adil was with a girl, Adil's firt girl Natasha separated from her after she came to know Adil made out with Tara, Tara became hard to resist she tried really hard to woo Adil, tara was smooth and had practiced her game, it was tara who used to go to adil's office to $ eduuce him not the other way around, Adil was guilt trapped by Tara as the tape got viral, Adil thought Tara's life is ruined because of the tape, Adil made up to her by marrying her, he didn't have any idea that Tara used Faiza and Faiza's connection to get closer to Adil, he didn't have any idea that Tara had planned it all. Adil was being nice to Tara all the time but he never loved her as he always loved Faiza which Tara was aware of but Tara made Faiza her best friend so adil and faiza's lvoe story ends. Adil loved Faiza but still didn't want to separate from Tara because he thought she is in a miserable poor condition, Adil never hesitates in helping and being generous to anyone including Tara, the tape was lliterally used to bblackmail and guiilt trap someone, Tara thought somehow she will manage to win Adil and live a happy rich life. Tara was already ready to leave Adil she packed all her jwelry before, Tara created a scene on the dining table just make everyone think of Adil as a vvilliian. Tara said to adil we both are same before leaving him but they aren't the same, making someone marry you by leaking the tape how can this be justified? also in case of the photographer he said he lives with a girl, jassi asked him did he love that girl, the photographer said yes. then why did the photographer kissed jassi in the wedding fort like location? they make out with someone after falling in love with a different person and none of this is addressed like it is all normal to make out with anyone after being in love to one person🤯 this show does normalize cheating that is for sure. Tara doen't deserve a single penny for what she did, she should be in jail for blackmailing/guilt tripping someone using $ e x tape as a weapon.

[@ManveenKaur0902]

ifkr

[@rushabhshah.2768]

@@ManveenKaur0902 thanks

[@ManveenKaur0902]

@@rushabhshah.2768 um no lol I was agreeing to the person that commented originally 😂

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@@ManveenKaur0902 ☕🙈

[@gonegirl3954]

You know they say, "how you get them is how you lose them". Whatever happened to Tara reminds me of that. Tara did the same to Natasha and Faiza did it to her. Yes, Tara did mess up but it was also Adil's choice to cheat. With or without Tara, he'd have cheated on Natasha with another secretary. But Faiza lost more. Tara was a best friend who'd give up everything for her, even offered Faiza to stay with them after her divorce. there's a season 2 coming soon so gotta see how it unfolds from this ending. P.s- Jaby kinda looks uncomfortable with Karan and that guy making out?

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[@athithjoseph5307]

A nuance that people seem to have missed is that when Adil proposed to Tara, he was looking wistfully at Faiza. Any other series would have made Adil and Faiza, the two star-crossed lovers as the focus of the story and Tara, the homewrecker as their foil. But Zoya has inverted the script. Because we start looking at this world with Tara's eyes and first see Adil as a jerk, even when everything is revealed in this episode, we can feel empathy for all three characters and see them for who they are (ie, regular people like us who are not black and white). That is the purpose of the many flashbacks in the story. They give us context and remind us that our initial assumptions were not all correct but should still not be completely discarded.

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[@pavankalyan2079]

So jaby is well supporting jim sabh You can like... You can hate Tara... But u can't ignore her.. She's fantastic

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[@anandita5554]

25:50 jaby i think you're missing the major difference between "SHE broke a relationship" Vs "HE chose to break his own marriage by having sex with her" There is more blame on the seducer than the cheater in your narrative. I hope you see the bias here...

[@upamarai8878]

Comments roasting Jaby is everything 😁. He doesn't get the nuances. I wish Achara could educate him. 🤣😅

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[@adilamatra1323]

I love how Achara rolls her eyes every now and then 😂

[@anandkrishnakumare]

Jaby thinks too much and over-criticize everything just for the sake of it. He knows that the directors and the team behind all these series are watching their reactions so he just talks as if he is some big director or something and also like he is giving the reviews to the directors and makers of the show. He is not enjoying the show, he is just waiting to point out some mistakes or something even if there isn't any. On the other hand Achara knows what this show wants to say and understands everything.

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[@surajbirajdar7025]

Jaby is American he can't understand Indian culture thinking of Indian people etc. Those love scenes are normal for lots of people. Vikrant Massey got so many praise for that scene. That scene was like one of the turning points for Vikrant's career. Jaby ur not comfortable ut doesn't mean all are. Again pls learn something from Achara.

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[@gulafshapathan101]

just by reading the comments i get it that i dont need to watch it completely... i do love the show and the character of vikrant it really good..i just love that..emotional support they have ....

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[@stutisrivastava4431]

The wedding in this Episode is based on the love story and marriage of the daughter of a very influential Telgu actor's daughter. She was fearful for her husband's life that's why she called the press after her wedding. Second part, about Tara walking away with Jewellery. As per Indian law, all the Jewelry that a married woman is gifted or acquired during a marriage is considered 'Stree Dhan' meaning Woman's wealth.The married women has complete right over it, the husband or his family has no claim over it. So technically she is no thief. Morally, is Tara a manipulative gold digger? May be, Yes!

[@bhuvaneshwarij1326]

He has no qualms with adil cheating!

[@ajinkyavekhande]

I have some problems with Jaby's comments.. Achara understands the cultural nuances so well..she has a better understanding and Jaby please really listen to her rather than just showing that you're listening..First of all, Vikrant was married to a girl because gay marriage is still illegal in India.And most probably Vikrant remained closeted until he met Arjun again (the abuse he faced in his teenage life may have aggravated it). Both the love scenes between the two were really needed and most of us loved those scenes because there isn't a single show in India which explored lovemaking between two men so beautifully.. The dialogue between the two in these scenes is multi-layered and deep..You could really see a combination of love and guilt there.. The bath tub kiss was necessary because Arjun opened up about his abuse only to Vikrant, who kissed him because he knew exactly how it felt to be abused and hence, wanted to show him that he is always there for him. Please don't compare the show with Game of thrones.. Its completely different and GOT's end was extremely disappointing.. And who said that rich people can't criticize other rich people? Every strata of society has issues and they made a story out of it.. Tara blasted Adil at last because that was the moment when she completely understood that Adil will never stop cheating her and that was the time she decided to leave..Achara is right about Adil thinking of Tara as a pet.. And tara didn't steal anything.. In India, jewellery is called as Streedhan which means 'Woman's money'.. She just took her own jewelry and left everything behind.

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[@naiadoftana7317]

25:31 i love how jaby says "she leaked the tape ended his relationship with his fiance" like yeah tara is the only culprit she is the one who literally 'made' jim cheat. Bruh the owness is equally, if not more on jim sarbh. HE WAS MARRIED, she wasnt.

[@rushabhshah.2768]

Things are pretty straight. Adil loved Faiza, Faiza loved Adil, Faiza's father forced her to marry someone else, she wasn't happy, Adil was sad to see Faiza not being with her, Tara knew Adil and Faiza had feelings for each other before marrying Adil, Tara wooed Adil in the office even though she Knew Adil was with a girl, Adil's firt girl Natasha separated from her after she came to know Adil made out with Tara, Tara became hard to resist she tried really hard to woo Adil, tara was smooth and had practiced her game, it was tara who used to go to adil's office to $ eduuce him not the other way around, Adil was guilt trapped by Tara as the tape got viral, Adil thought Tara's life is ruined because of the tape, Adil made up to her by marrying her, he didn't have any idea that Tara used Faiza and Faiza's connection to get closer to Adil, he didn't have any idea that Tara had planned it all. Adil was being nice to Tara all the time but he never loved her as he always loved Faiza which Tara was aware of but Tara made Faiza her best friend so adil and faiza's lvoe story ends. Adil loved Faiza but still didn't want to separate from Tara because he thought she is in a miserable poor condition, Adil never hesitates in helping and being generous to anyone including Tara, the tape was lliterally used to bblackmail and guiilt trap someone, Tara thought somehow she will manage to win Adil and live a happy rich life. Tara was already ready to leave Adil she packed all her jwelry before, Tara created a scene on the dining table just make everyone think of Adil as a vvilliian. Tara said to adil we both are same before leaving him but they aren't the same, making someone marry you by leaking the tape how can this be justified? also in case of the photographer he said he lives with a girl, jassi asked him did he love that girl, the photographer said yes. then why did the photographer kissed jassi in the wedding fort like location? they make out with someone after falling in love with a different person and none of this is not even addressed, like it is all normal to make out with anyone after being in love to one person🤯 this show does normalize cheating that is for sure. Tara doen't deserve a single penny for what she did, she should be in jail for blackmailing/guilt tripping someone using $ e x tape as a weapon.

[@harshlakhani781]

Western people don't like unlinear drama..understandable!!!! No stress.

[@harshlakhani781]

@Sumit Verma lol... 10 to 12 year ago, yes indian drama was not that upto the mark... ,,,,we were tends to watch Western drama....Nowdays Indian drama are so good in OTT and some in theatre also that most of people can't understand parallelism of storyline, direction and dark or grey humour in bottomline.

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[@kenshan9632]

Achara you rock! Period Jaby grow up! Period

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[@aryanmittal606]

Achara's eyeroll at 19:08 though. 😂 Reminded me of a Phoebe's dialogue from that unagi episode. "come on jaby, please tell us what you mean.🙄"

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[@rhythm2238]

Jaby has proven with this series' reaction that he is certainly UNCLE JABS instead of jaby.

[@niharikanag2514]

Jaby comes across as so thick sometimes. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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[@rhutujavispute2362]

Jaby is an uncle. Periodt

[@neharastogi8216]

Who is recommending these culturally nuanced shows to Jaby? He doesn’t understand these things (out of ignorance or maybe out of lack of exposure) so obviously his views will not match our views on the show. And like always Achara gets everything because she understands the cultural issues plus she is highly intelligent. Let’s make peace with the fact that Jaby has no idea about the life of an average Indian, how we grow up, how we think, the biases, the show off, the inequality, and the kind of challenges we face, specifically women. And even if he watches 5 more Indian shows he will have the same reaction. He will need to meet such people and look at their life closely to understand everything. Even all his Indian friends cannot teach him that. I bet this is going to happen with Mirzapur 2 again. I think both Jaby and the subscribers need to understand that this show is made for Indian audience! It’s okay not to like things that are not made for you. It’s just a show, move on! Keep calm! 😎 India is a complex place and we Indians are even more complicated!

[@rhythm2238]

And hes making money out of indians as his living. Oh the irony.

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[@ManveenKaur0902]

jaby is the kind of guy that says "not all men" when women talk about harassment or something.

[@samkiiit]

Yeah, women being called stupid is a reminder of centuries and millenia of oppression of women. Saying that just re-affirms into the mindsets of those men the barbaric sexism. Women calling men stupid is only when a man is actually stupid. Even though the men might not mean to be barbaric about it, that statement is enough to remind them of the casual sexism they've faced their entire lives even in 2020. And when they were outspoken and taking a stand against the norms, they were called 'stupid' for demanding their rights and their freedom.

[@rhythm2238]

Yup yup. Its a stereotype which has been believed upon to savour the male ego by men of the past.

[@anavsk]

Dude in what will do you live women make these comments about men regardless if you have done something or not, I agree in earlier times when used to say those things to women but that doesn't justify women's actions , if a man does it call him out if a woman does it call her out don't be a hypocrite.

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[@ankita7342]

I am so proud of this comment section.

[@saloniagarwal9321]

I just wanted to put the point out there that vikrant was married but he was probably married to a woman as gay marriage is still not legal in India and definitely wasn't at the time this show was shot. Of course cheating with karan is still morally reprehensible but it gives another angle to the moral issue at hand

[@kashishshaher]

Well sorry to say but no Vikrant was married to a dude only and they were living in the states. It was mentioned in the show.

[@justmundanethings]

Achara is on point again! Lady, you rock!

[@rajatdhanuka4220]

When the show does idealistic stuff then Jaby is like ohh it's a very movie thing and that will not happen in real life And when it tries to portray real human behaviour then Jaby is like I don't know if I like the character any more !

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[@ehsaanlaskar]

Its just sad how Jaby is in his own world where everything works according to his sensibilities.

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[@saichand4172]

I get jaby. But, I am sure the writers deliberately made a choice to keep everything in the gray and make it as subjective as they could so that we as the audience can decide who we like.

[@rhythm2238]

Exactly. Its all subjective. Thats why i love this show. Damn.

[@sayanchatterjee355]

I suddenly rediscovered my respect and love for my fellow Indians in this comment section. It's rare to see a comment section that's so humane, sane and socially liberal. All is not lost.

[@vinayvardhansingh8938]

Interestingly, today is the hearing of legalizing gay marriages. Lets be hopeful🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

[@onalbhandare1915]

Fingers crossed 🤞

[@stilllearning6252]

Omg seriously?! I so hope it gets legalized!

[@thanan1614]

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[@abdulquadirshekh6409]

But why gay need marriage? I want to learn about this please explain me

[@stilllearning6252]

@@abdulquadirshekh6409 To celebrate their love on a legal level. To have this event in their family so that they can remember it like the straight couple do.

[@jnyanendrarajbongshi603]

I don't understand these foreigners..first they don't want one dimensional character..but when a grey character is shown they complain about that they don't understand him/her or could not follow her.. They should first make sure what they want.. LoL

[@ankita7342]

It was only Jaby tho. Thanks to the Asian blood in dear Achara, she's a sweetie.

[@Redwoodtree34567]

All the characters are complex and shady, that's the intention of show, it's actually a dark show which is behind the bright or shiny exterior so it was not a conventional concept so its better to accept and acknowledge the unconventional tone of it. They were all imperfect that's what made it realistic or relatable,moreover it's an Indian show so it's kinda ok that if you people don't connect much with it. Loved Achara's reaction as always❤️and Thanks to both of you for reacting to this.

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[@anaghkalita5797]

Even achara looks annoyed by jaby's review 😂

[@anaghkalita5797]

Already said that jaby needs to stop reacting and let achara do the reaction

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[@rexxbailey2764]

ROFL LMAO !!!! YEAH DATS TRUE NOW !!! HAHAHA LOLS : D

[@sittingduck1735]

Achara has the vision that is very essential for being a good film-maker.

[@simshing]

Feels like Jaby took it personally.