Madison & Peter Clash Over Fantasy Suites | The Bachelor

[@Tharsy27]

“In a week from now, if you’re down one knee and six days before that you slept with someone, I just can’t wrap my mind around that” Finally someone that’s realistic about this whole process!!!!

[@RoofG]

Very true ,that was a wise woman speech for me ! He couldn't answer when she said that to him. I was speechless. Trust me ,all lust ,being intimate crazy doing will fade eventually, but true heart never ever fade or change.

[@LisaKuhle]

Tharsiny Thurai I mean yeah.. that’s why this show has been on forever! The whole thing is messed up and girls and guys keep signing up for it not even thinking twice about it!

[@victoriafontana3520]

I guess the way things are today. Some men have to sleep with you to see if it's that extra chemistry. I don't think he realizes how valuable Madison is.

[@ScottGSP]

That mindset is realistic in real life, not here.

[@Ola-ts9ny]

But she knew how the whole process looks like!

[@mehar7096]

madison really expressed her feelings in such a mature way WITHOUT putting down the other girls we need more of this

[@nicolejarel5953]

scotts tots words are definitely tricky, she did a perfect job

[@mac4951]

Oh my gosh. Scott’s Tots.

[@stephaniegentryart]

I actually agree with this. I was worried there might be a double standard between her and luke P. My only complaint is I wish she would have said it sooner. But honestly. She didnt seem judgemental at all. I agreed with Luke P's points and understood him struggling. But he presented it like it was a mistake or a mark for her to do that on their relationship and a judgement. Where as she was kind with her words and actually respected him as a person too and even his feelings. I'm curious to see how this plays out.

[@Supertrooper_00]

*cough cough* *mumbles* Victoria...

[@Supertrooper_00]

julia burns Compared to Victoria it was. I’m sure it’s hard to express yourself on camera. Maybe it’s nerves.

[@DanA-10357]

Dear Victoria, this is how you hold a conversation with actual words

[@viviankuntz4346]

Lmao 😂 yeah

[@krystint2517]

😂🤣👏🙌

[@gdesiree29]

Yes and he still sleeps with a girl who cant hold a proper conversation

[@jshad5393]

And this is how you look someone in the eye when you talk to them...

[@krystint2517]

@Dusty Rose wonder what would have happened if she didn't 🤔 lol

[@dulcedelacour]

Madison: “I just wouldn’t be comfortable saying yes to an engagement when 6 days prior you slept with someone else.” She deserves more.

[@brimarie2673]

Elisa Fernandes she’s got morals, and expectations. I hope she gets what she deserves in the end. She’s such a sweet girl

[@samigrl1234]

Elisa Fernandes But at the same time, she signed up for something like this.

[@Stephanieee463]

@@samigrl1234 Many men in bachelor history have not slept with other girls during fantasy suites.

[@gdesiree29]

@@Stephanieee463 like Colton. Its like people forget lol

[@jeannewomack7265]

@. YES

[@triciayu014]

"I don't want to feel like a bad person for the standards that I have."

[@DajaahAdams]

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[@DajaahAdams]

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[@yesseniaburgavillavicencio6518]

Going from the "EXCUSE YOU WHAT? " girl to Madison is such a difference... She deserves better, so respectful... Love her

[@jennyphan2121]

Yessenia Burga Villavicencio I Don’t understand when they all know this is the bachelor right. If you don’t want him to be with others then don’t go on tv

[@wennii2331]

yes her communication is key!

[@epicepidemic7131]

Excuse you WHAT??!!??

[@manda19982]

you can literally see the hurt in her eyes

[@princessbubblegum8456]

She will get over it I hope she is the next bachelor

[@zaria5785]

More like disappointment. I hope it’s a wake up call for her to set boundaries sooner.

[@violethill3745]

It’s telling that he was talking to her and she stopped looking at him. She knew it was over then.

[@Alexis-pt2cu]

Zari A he still would’ve done whatever he wanted to. Obv. Lol.

[@pwetty4r4]

So impressed with how she handled herself here. She is a great communicator, and I hope she sticks to her values

[@sofiablackwelder4365]

really good communicator especially in highly emotional and high stakes situation

[@CcHungcc]

She got married yesterday to a man who appreciates her. She looked so happy ❤

[@kasugapachaka8858]

If he truly truly wanna pick her he wouldn't sleep with anyone of them

[@mounafaci4351]

EXACTLYYYYYYYY

[@tawnie9204]

Yep

[@ivanVZ1289]

THANK YOU!!!! And he even said “I love Madison!”

[@baerares2743]

ong

[@gdesiree29]

Exaclty. Colton didnt sleep with the other two women cuz he wanted cassie. It's not that hard lol. If u want someone, u want that person. No one else. But u know, everyone is different

[@dreaminqofparadise]

madison has every right to vocalize her opinions and it makes sense that if he truly loves her and wants to be with her for the rest of their lives, he wouldn’t need to sleep with anyone else.

[@laisanibale2154]

Madison is like Luke P,..in Hannah brown season. Hannah b told Luke P ",this is not about you ( referring to Luke) leave. Hannah made decisions for herself and is a strong woman.

[@karismar962]

@@laisanibale2154 i agree with you 100 percent .

[@luv2467]

dreamingofparadise amen

[@SusanRichardsDay]

@@laisanibale2154 No Luke and Hannah had a great relationship and dating so many is not something most can handle . Luke was emotionally immature but Hannah led him on then insulted him and cast him off after bragging she slept with others . Its all exploiting . The show has gotten somewhat raunchy probably for ratings .

[@laisanibale2154]

Grisel Griselda, no you can't stop on what I thought, that is what is all about. To view opinion

[@diamcole]

This seems like a mismatch, to be honest. She's not a bad person for wanting someone who is willing to wait and he's not a bad person for wanting to explore chemistry/connections through physical intimacy. They just have some different needs and that's okay! They should have had this conversation early on in the process, she did herself a bit of a disservice by not making that standard known before she really starting falling for him.

[@meghanl7451]

Diamond well said

[@suzzylouloudougherty5237]

She doesn't belong with him at all

[@chelseavp7]

Hear me out: I’m beginning to think the plan was ‘Bachelorette’. That’s not a criticism. It’s just, while she seems lovely, the mismatch between these two has been apparent for a while. If the world didn’t know what was up re: windmill situ, then fine. But everrrrrrybody knew he likes/needs the intimacy. So I have to ask, what the plan was. AND, why wait until the final 3 to have this chat? Unless he was never the plan... ijs

[@boomds5602]

Diamond it’s not that she thinks he needs to wait, she’s just saying she won’t accept a proposal from someone who had JUST slept with someone else

[@jaylasummerall9555]

Diamond I agree

[@opena77]

She is so strong for not compromising her beliefs.

[@RoofG]

True

[@paigec5017]

Also Madison in the same breath: I have compromised so many of my standards by allowing you to kiss other women

[@opena77]

@priveyful yes. That conversation is all over as well. I feel the media has imposed their values and beliefs onto the youth. Everyone is entitled to their standards, beliefs, and values. Communication is very important.

[@rosemiller6388]

yet when Luke Parker did the same exact thing y’all dragged him to hell. Double standards

[@ashtonkomerska5087]

I love Madison! she has strong morals & doesn’t compromise them for this. she’s definitely the one that the parents are talking about when they say “don’t let her go.”

[@victoriafontana3520]

Madison is the one. For him. Hannah is too immature. And Victoria is a rotten b**** nothing but trouble. Men are so blind.

[@jnorway7295]

Yes!!!

[@Alexis-pt2cu]

Yes!!! I think he goes after the show is over & tries to get her back 😏 she probably will say no though

[@Grisellesuriel]

If he chases her, I hope she says no because he’s not gonna change his values for her. Trust! They’re unequally yolked.

[@matthewnivens1192]

Mr. Reality Steve has spoken. It took him a long time and his link crashed lol but he is steadfast with his proof. I was team Hannah Ann but obviously it's not her anymore. There is no way this dude is leaving Madison

[@megaxboxx]

that Madison girl is literally DIAMOND level woman... sorry but it shouldn't even be close w that manipulative insecure trashcan Victoria. Hannah is fine but you know she'll be trouble down the line. Madison definitely the pick for marriage and kids. Her father taught her well, insanely high standards and morals. god bless.

[@DSlav2488]

I don't understand...why would HA be trouble down the line?

[@Overgifted]

@julia burns exactly. I don't get it either... 🙄

[@sheliasmith8904]

I totally agree. Some of the people here just don't get it nor do they want to!

[@evonnevanderhoek9901]

If Madison has such high standards, why is she even on that show?

[@sweety784]

@@evonnevanderhoek9901 to change the standards

[@beautyessentials4394]

Madison deserves better than what he's giving her.

[@hannahkennedy604]

Isabella Rayon-Wing amen amen amen!

[@reggiepryor6777]

She signed up for the bachelor , so she should've known that this could happen

[@beautyessentials4394]

@@reggiepryor6777 that doesn't mean he should go out of his way to mistreat her.

[@redpeony6666]

@@griselgriselda2901 not true, there have been plenty of good monogamous relationships where both are atheists or believe in other polytheistic deities.

[@beautyessentials4394]

@@redpeony6666 I did not know polyethist deities existed.

[@nicolepop1771]

she handled this conversation so well, wow

[@yvetteguye8469]

He is going to choose the wrong girl and if is Victoria it won't last if its Hannah Ann she is to young

[@rachelshupe7134]

Madison was really the only one who was drama free and kind to everyone, I wish he would just yeet Victoria F out the f-ing door

[@viviankuntz4346]

Lmao same

[@sophiahastings4495]

He sent Victoria F home to tonight thank goodness!

[@diamonds2680]

Sophia Hastings wait how would u know that

[@tonybalony1811]

He deserves a Victoria F tbh...

[@jasjuaquin140]

Yeap Victoria is a walking red flag.

[@ahischak]

The fact that he kept Victoria around shows he doesn’t know what he wants and is still immature. He’s not ready.

[@rocprodprinceray]

With her being strong in her faith... She deserves a Godly man!

[@emanueljcruz]

Ciara Jones Luke p

[@suzzylouloudougherty5237]

Like

[@patriciamartinez4348]

Ciara Jones idk why she thought she would find that on a reality tv show lol

[@gdesiree29]

@@emanueljcruz hes not godly lol. Self righteous actually

[@rocprodprinceray]

@@emanueljcruz no

[@dylanabaez]

Him saying he could see her at the end 100% but seeing the other women the same I would just leave . You can’t say that and then a week later be ready to marry one of that like um you just felt the same about two other whole women . I could never be on this show

[@princesslollypop7764]

I can understand her point of view. She deserves better.

[@kellywong5671]

My jaw dropped but at least she isn't rude about it and was being kind as well

[@yolondasmith6415]

I love her. Her parents raised her well. And she is very respectful.... ( and I still can't believe he allows Victoria to talk to him like that ) he is deff saving her for something else...lol

[@morebass6644]

Madison is a dream come true! She is an Amazing person!

[@cantelopestrawberry5730]

Yolonda Smith not well enough to not go on the bachelor though😂

[@morebass6644]

@@yolondasmith6415 Very true

[@SarahBasques]

Honestly, it is so awkward & gross how these people sleep with multiple women/men & then sometimes propose to another woman days later. Obviously the show is dumb all together, but the fantasy suites seem to be the biggest deal on this show & I find it extremely tacky.

[@SandNSurf]

The show has become pure trash. I wish it could return to how it started out. It was fun, exciting, suspenseful. Not a bunch of women only going on the show to further their lame careers. Same with the guys. In the early years it was sincere. Now it’s all tears, and gross noisy kissing. For the most part, very shallow people.

[@sunshinehurricanemix]

100% agree. I'm disturbed by it

[@shawna8134]

Exactly what’s the point of the fantasy suite

[@mc10333]

Usually the ones that sleep with multiple people before getting engaged don’t last - for example Andi, Kaitlyn, Juan Pablo, Chris Soules, Hannah B. it becomes a major issue in the relationship of the engaged person

[@Countrygirl42349]

I guess if you guys don't like the show that much, then you shouldn't be watching it. But people are drawn to it for whatever reason...

[@hannahrice2273]

She can do way better than that boy. Period.

[@brandon_4thave822]

Speak on it!

[@choosefreedom4725]

Good. Then she can leave? Men deserve more than skanks who just get on a show for attention. Lmao

[@brandon_4thave822]

@@choosefreedom4725 She's a virgin.

[@Countrygirl42349]

Maybe she can, but she knew what was going to happen on the show, and she went anyway, so deal with it Maddy.. She keeps going back to him ...

[@_filmgeeks]

Not gonna lie this has been one of the worst Bachelor seasons... ever.

[@ivanmandiola363]

We needed Mike u.u

[@leiastern8692]

.

[@stephanieszady9826]

Sondrol Productions totally agree! I’m annoyed at myself for sitting through this season every Monday!

[@TropicalPassionFruit]

Yes, this was a painful season to sit through. And there’s no heart to the show.

[@Rissaalia]

Yet here we are lmao

[@catrinaj8056]

I honestly get it, I wouldn’t feel that someone truly loved me if they had just slept with two other women.

[@Overgifted]

So basically he just told her" yeah I've slept with the other two, you're not that special, I like you but I like them too" 🤨

[@bunny_0288]

Yup.... But his face before the next rose ceremony means he knows he messed up with the best girl of the bunch, and now he's left with the train wreck and the little girl. Lol I don't think he thought she would really leave even though she told him before! He made his choice. I hope Madi doesn't take him back and he ends up with Victoria F. He thinks relationships need to be hard.... Oy.

[@cantelopestrawberry5730]

The whole point of the show...

[@LeNoirdefleurs]

But this is why this whole show is rigged. Just so the bachelor/bachelorette can treat the contestants like candy and choose which ones they want and throw them away. Once they chew all the flavor from the gum, they spit you out and go on to the next one that will satisfy them! I stopped watching the bachelor after Hannah's season, what a joke.🙄

[@User84030]

Well yeah she ain’t that special. She’s one of tons of girls on that show, and one of three that have a serious connection with the same guy. She shouldn’t be on the show, period.

[@pauladonnelly3367]

when he tells her he slept with others her eyes go blank

[@PrairieeGirl]

And he doesn't have the guts to look at her hardly at all..looks like he's realizing what a schmuck he is..he had no problem looking at Victoria and all the trashy drama she threw at him..

[@kelleypopkowski1789]

It's painful to hear.

[@sav287]

she poured her heart out and he basically told her she’s replaceable anyways... one of the worst seasons for sure

[@asareirene]

It's nice to see her trying to overlook all his flaws because of her feelings for him. But what the hell was he saying. Coming into this week, he could see a future with everyone, but after being intimate with someone, he couldn't see a future with that person anymore? What kind of person is this?

[@sakura360ify]

Asare Isaac a lot of things can happen in a fantasy suite that would make him change his mind. depends on his feelings and if a connection has that depth he’s looking for. not totally absurd

[@kayligo]

Yup he’s Really going to hurt two people Very deeply. Honestly I think I’m over watching these shows. I don’t like seeing people lead on, hurt and crying

[@Vagabond193]

It's the first time madi cried on the show

[@Countrygirl42349]

​@kayligo Well, they play it to the end too, so if they don't like it they should leave...

[@StacyMoscotti]

They are at two different places and two different belief systems. There’s a connection between them but they are not a good long term couple methinks.

[@londa4793]

Stacy Moscotti meagrees with that

[@donnafletcher5386]

It doesn't matter if she waited too late. If he loved her he would have chosen to substain from the other women or send them home to just have her. He didn't because he wanted more than one. Sad to say, but a confused man. True love is loyal and dedicated.

[@kayligo]

Donna Fletcher agree 100%!

[@Countrygirl42349]

She just keeps on going with him tho..right to the end!!

[@sambutterfield8960]

When she explained it like she did where she doesn’t think she would be able to accept an engagement when he slept with a different person 6 days before it kinda makes sense. Yes it’s the Bachelor but she’s allowed to be uncomfortable with that.

[@Countrygirl42349]

She knew right from the get-go this was going to happen, so she should have left if she couldn't deal with it.

[@Blessedlife247]

Mad is such a wise and kind person. I totally agree, that if he truly loves her and wants to be with her, he shouldn’t sleep with anyone else. I have a feeling that he will propose to her tho.

[@donnafletcher5386]

I hope she doesn't accept because it will always be in the back of her mind. I hope her family gives her strength to stay away. She deserves better.

[@conniegreen9072]

No i think she leaves the show So he will not be able to propose then. If he pick one of the other two they will be Second choice, but I don’t know if either have enough sense to care.

[@Grisellesuriel]

If he truly loves her, he should let her go.

[@baerares2743]

"something that happened last week" YOU SLEPT WITH SOMEONE ELSE

[@epicepidemic7131]

THANK YOU.

[@JuliaSully]

I love her for not tearing anyone else down while speaking her points and she’s true to herself. But she really never should’ve applied for the show. In general, after watching this season, they really need to raise the age to people 26 and over.

[@bberyll2704]

"But you're worth it!" ... IS HE, MADI?? IS HE REALLY WORTH YOUR LOVE??? Run away from him and never, ever, look back.

[@ispeakmymind428]

“I 100% can see a future with you at the end of this.....*BUT* Coming in this week I can see that with other people too” yeahhhh 😃

[@ee5360]

Yeah that sounds more like a 33.33333% chance to me, but what do I know 🤔

[@Grisellesuriel]

If I were Madison, that would’ve been my que to leave. He’s not that into you.

[@ispeakmymind428]

E E haha 😂 yes exactly... he got the math wrong.

[@LivAlexa32]

I 100% respect Madi’s values but if she isn’t comfortable having a guy kiss other girls, why go on the bachelor? Why not find a Godly man from a more Christian environment? Like I definitely share some of Madi’s values and I’d never go on this show for that reason

[@manda19982]

olivia alexa i agree! i feel bad her for because i really feel like she has fallen in love. you can see how much she was hurt

[@laisanibale2154]

Olivia Alexa, agreed

[@Maratrushka]

Well you so right in there

[@kimstone5038]

olivia alexa exactly!

[@LivAlexa32]

Kim Stone like I also wouldn’t want my boyfriend kissing and sleeping with other women! Which is why I’m dating a guy atm whose only dating me 😂

[@raaachellam9030]

She speaks so well

[@PrairieeGirl]

Proud of Madison for voicing her expectations. By this point he knows or he doesn't, if there is one of those women he thinks he can spend his future with. You don't sleep with all of them on a fantasy date and then get engaged to one a few days later. In any other scenario than the Bachelor it would be called sleezy plain and simple

[@cantelopestrawberry5730]

Except that happens every single time and she knew that going on the show

[@dani09eveline]

He didn’t know. He expressed that he was inlove with them all. There isn’t a final selection until the final rose

[@kelseylovesart]

@@cantelopestrawberry5730 actually it doesnt happen every time. Several other bachelors have chosen not to sleep with people during fantasy suite week that they werent going to choose out of respect

[@conniegreen9072]

Who says they are in Love w 3 women at the same time, he should of decided which one he thought was going to make him happy and stick w that one..Victoria is definitely not marrying Material, Hanna Anne is more like his daughter, puppy love for her.

[@pettybetty1791]

It's still sleezy

[@gattaca627]

She is a sweet girl and she is who she is. If you can’t meet her standards then you don’t deserve her. This guy blew his chance.

[@danielgiduck1747]

Why go on the show in the first place? Such high standards indeed. Lol

[@giannasmakeup]

i don’t even watch the bachelor but from what i’ve read and heard she deserves way better and someone that will treat her right

[@opena77]

She gave him an ultimatum and he still went ahead and dismissed her wishes.

[@tawnie9204]

O Pena she should’ve left right then

[@GoonCity777]

@@tawnie9204 when Luke did this, you all hated on him. Now its virtuous?

[@boomds5602]

catharsis222 it was different because of the way he said it and the way he acted the whole time

[@GoonCity777]

@@boomds5602 🧐🤔🤨😀😂🤣🤣🤣

[@EadsB7002]

Men in this type of ordeal (when still other women involved) don't like being put on the spot/given ultimatums......from my experience. I totally respect that she has morals/values.... but this type of situation just comes with the territory (the show's premise). They were not (yet) in a completely monogamous relationship at this point in time.

[@markusaurelius4015]

Wow, way to go Madison. She voices her thoughts so beautifully and kindly with such maturity. What an awesome person. To do and say all that with such kind and understanding words. Just wow.

[@carolbenson6524]

This show is so depressing..everyone upset and crying and people can't talk. He'll let the best girl go.

[@Cometstarlight]

Carol Benson in most cases, they bachelor(ette) let the best person go. It’s one of the reasons why almost none of them are still together.

[@michaelseyes7463]

If he truly cared for Madison he wouldn't have ever slept with Victoria, he would have respected her values. The fact that he went ahead and did it anyway shows exactly how he feels.

[@Maratrushka]

World is so upside down right now that they dont understand values and honor no more. They stay with you is your personality. She is loyal to her standars thats hard to find.

[@RoofG]

True

[@bekab5690]

THIS is how you respect yourself and still respect the decisions of other people. This respect and this control and this ability to voice your thoughts and beliefs is what makes the vast difference between certain people from last season and this conversation. The maturity and honesty 🙌🙌

[@joanlynch5271]

I really like how she stands up for herself. She is confident and respects her own judgement.

[@Countrygirl42349]

But she still stays...

[@jimk7882]

'I can see myself being with you in the end'...as he's doing another girl.. You're not fooling anyone you clown...this definitely is the wrong format for her to find love..she deserves better

[@Countrygirl42349]

Then go elsewhere to find it, not on the Bachelor.. she knew what was coming.

[@princessbubblegum8456]

He messed up big time dont give your self to someone who doesn't care that much for you and who is going to hurt you in the end ...

[@terry-annfrancis1252]

princess bubblegum most men don’t care about that as long as they get the opportunity to sleep with a woman then they are good.

[@nicolewoolley6863]

It might have just been the way they edited it but he really didnt have to sleep with either of them. They would have a life time for it if it worked out.

[@anneinc4974]

So we’re not gonna talk about how Madison asked the same question that Luke P asked and Luke got SLAMMED. and Madison got praised for expressing her beliefs. I see how it is

[@xoxleexox2217]

Madison for bachelorette!!!!! She's so amazing to stick to her beliefs. I think he did sleep with one of the girls and then she leaves and he talks to his parents about it and then that's where his mom says DON'T LET HER GO! Cuz if u think about it his parents spent their first date them and they really liked her. So the mom tells him to go get her and bring her back home

[@Jtz-]

So Madison doesn't want her man to have relationships with other people so she goes on a show where her man has relationships with other people???

[@wennii2331]

I mean he only got 3 girls left, if he still doesn’t have his mind made, what is he even doing? If he really wanted to pick Madison, it’s not that hard to NOT sleep with other girls

[@Jane-xv3dn]

Peters great, but I hope Madi ends up with her equal! Someone just as faith driven and God-fearing

[@deejay3j]

Ginger Luke p

[@Cometstarlight]

Mukesh Agarwal Luke P. was a controlling monster using faith as a guilting measure. Madi deserves a good man who will treat her right and not as an object

[@marysmith9954]

Glad someone on the show has standards! I wouldn’t want a fiancé who slept with some one else days before engagement either! This is what happens when your parents applaud your windmill acts. He experienced pain when HB was intimate with others, funny he couldn’t empathize and do differently.

[@Countrygirl42349]

But again, I'll say, she knew from the getgo that this happens on the show, so she shouldn't have even gone...

[@lorrainegreen6782]

I respect her standards, but she should have told him sooner. Also, why come on this show?

[@StacyMoscotti]

Lorraine Green yup. Thank you.

[@gdesiree29]

She did tell him before

[@krystint2517]

You don't have to sleep with anyone in the fantasy suite

[@hillaryedwards567]

Lorraine green! Well said, thank you!!!

[@cantelopestrawberry5730]

G•Desiree 7 not reallt

[@melqehaja5680]

Why is she here anyway? I mean I understand her point, is what she wants in a relationship but why participate in the bachelor when she knows that is far from what she wants it to be. And if you want to save herself for your marriage fine, but save yourself from falling in love too and tell him since beginning what you expect from him. These girls in this season seem like they lived in different bubbles all the time.

[@nofacenofacetrinity]

Honestly, this was the most emotionally intimate and vulnerable bachelor video I’ve seen in a long time. I was walking the line of tears in pure silence for 10 minutes, Madison is an angel and I completely understand where she’s coming from despite not having the same exact values. She executed this with such grace

[@FancyThatwithCandice]

Way to go Madison! You are a rock and an example of faith to us all.

[@divatashi]

NGL this the perfect segway for Madison to be bachelorette lmao

[@nofacenofacetrinity]

I don’t know why he felt the need to tell her “he could see that with other people too” like ouch

[@amalhussein8426]

Trinityfaith15 right idiot that properly killed her more

[@nofacenofacetrinity]

Seems like something you would say to someone you want to get rid of not the first person you “fall in love” with

[@Vagabond193]

Exactly

[@StacyMoscotti]

He’s contractually obligated to keep it vague. He’s not allowed to tell anyone out right that he loves them to their face. At the end of the day these are television shows and these people are cast in rules and they are allowed to do certain things and not allowed to do certain things for the sake of the television show

[@miny4558]

But people break the rules every season there have been many that have said I love you your the one despite the contracts. Aka Colton and cassie

[@lunamoon9935]

Honestly Madison knew what she was getting herself into. Idk why she’s even still here when she’s looking for “faith”. There ain’t no faith in this relationship sis.

[@elenayang9200]

Luna Moon agreee!!

[@Mineo5]

Go Madi!!!! I can tell he REALLY cares about her. I feel like the other girls regret not having higher standards. So, they're judging Madi harshly. At the end of the day, I want to be more like Madi.

[@brimarie2673]

I really felt for her watching this...but she needs a man who knows what he wants, who will do what ever it takes. I wouldn’t mind her being the next bachelorette!

[@Countrygirl42349]

Yeah, and she'll deny the fantasy suite to every one of them. Go somewhere else if you want a Godly man ...gee wiz!!!.

[@nicoleeocholo]

I love the way she explained herself. She’s such a beautiful person. But she deserves way better.

[@LivingLikeLex]

Victoria F. can learn something from her communication wise.

[@f.taheri9903]

If he was serious about her and loves her never go sleep with other girls same as Colton ,he just wanted to have fun.

[@kealydoll6763]

It seems to me that this conversation should have happened a loooooong time ago.

[@susannguyen7566]

She is a strong woman

[@srilakshmir5927]

Girl, you know he's the windmill guy. Why'd you come on the show?!

[@CheniEdits]

Sometimes people sign up before the next bachelor is announced. I might be wrong though.

[@CheniEdits]

She also might have thought colten wouldve been the bachelor and she mightve signed up because he was a virgin too

[@plantecsmiths1622]

@@CheniEdits Colton is engaged to Cassie

[@plantecsmiths1622]

@@CheniEdits they have the option to accept or deny it when they find out who the pick is

[@plantecsmiths1622]

That's is the best comment in all of these

[@marymccaffrey8458]

I think she totally blew it by not being honest about her expectations from the beginning, this was lying by omission.

[@paigec5017]

Exactly! Your faith is everything but you didnt share that on your first date? How does that even happen? I shared my whole life story by the end of my first date with my guy

[@marypratt5739]

I love how everyone JUMPED DOWN Luke's throat for basically saying the exact same thing. The hypocrisy. No shade to Madison, she was one of my favorites. But, it's true.

[@deedewatseyer863]

I totally respect her morals.

[@solycamargo4559]

It was unfair. She waited until the last moment to have this conversation. People who have a strong religious belief should not put themselves on this type of show

[@minx2528]

I agree, 100 %! She should have been up front about saving herself for marriage.. Honestly? This is a second or third date conversation.. Just saying!

[@SusanRichardsDay]

There have been some who waited for marriage and met someone extra special on here. I wish it would go back to the more romantic show instead of all the lusting and drama .

[@tryphinamokgosi]

When getting into a relationship, it's always better to voice what's important to you early on, which gives both parties an idea whether they fit together or not..just saying

[@playlistforme2883]

Isn't Madison doing what Luke P. did to Hannah? In this situation, why is Madison being praised while people hated on Luke P.? I believe in this season Madison is being more respectful in sharing her values compared to how Luke shared his, however their values seem to be the same.

[@jackiesinclaire]

Playlist For Me it’s not the same. Luke p. was mostly ridiculed for the way he was trying to manipulate her and him coming back after she sent him home. Madison actually sticks to her word of leaving for her morals. Idk why this is so hard to understand.

[@learningwithlulu]

Damn. I teared up for Madison just watching this. I can’t imagine the pain inside of her right there.

[@andreakumar2984]

Oooh so she said it first but he windmilled anyway! Yikes.. Side note...Madi ease up on the tan just a little bit girl! Other than that you’re a freaking class act.

[@Feudejoie5]

I think there is a reason he got rid of all the flight attendants. I think he might have a bad reputation with enough of them he was afraid of some coming forward with some stories opposite his image of himself.

[@marieeugene12]

@. No no no ooo ooo

[@NealFowler]

what i don't understand is this: madison, live your life how you want to. no shame there. but why would you go on a show where it's not exactly known to be a chastity competition, and expect someone to live your lifestyle? it seems like a really odd way to go about your time on the show.

[@Krisarooooo]

Seriously though...why on Earth would she come on the Bachelor if her morals are that strong?? I don't get it...

[@volleyballchica1332]

i’m just curious why everyone crucified Luke P for saying this same exact thing to Hannah B but now everyone is defending Madison saying she has every right to do this and she’s a strong woman with high standards.. i don’t have an opinion on it either way, i just find it interesting. is it because they approached it differently? or what?

[@hannahbustos1827]

I personally feel like she approached the situation much more maturely and she also voiced her expectations before his fantasy suites with the other girls unlike Luke

[@volleyballchica1332]

Hannah Bustos that’s totally valid! i didn’t have an opinion on it. i was just wondering what other people’s opinions were. thanks babe!

[@Jess_614]

Agree with Hannah. Madison’s approach was so mature and open and honest. Luke P seemed so judge mental and demeaning. When he said he wanted to pray over Hannah B like she needed saving. That’s i think what the difference is. It’s all about delivery. :)

[@ghhh9012]

Cause they are all hypocrite and completely unaware of it

[@maryammabrooka8175]

Isn’t this what Luke P. Did but in a nicer more sweet and cute way, which is still not okay. You know the process and you know he has relations with other women yet you have these expectations which is wild

[@carolinaurena7338]

I like her, but what I don’t understand is why did she go to the show, has she seen how it works before?

[@colletampechi9030]

I agree with u,she is a good girl why did she sign for this show,that's what happen we girls coz our expectations are to high,there are a lot of good men out there,I'm not a judgemental person but I think if u sign for this show u have to have an open mind that any thing can happen so u have to be prepared.

[@carolinaurena7338]

colleta mpechi exactly. Personally... I wouldn’t go to the show because of how it works, but I think whoever decides to go has to be a 100% sure that they can deal with it🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Countrygirl42349]

EXACTLY!!!

[@hannahgreen1427]

Good on her for setting herself some values.

[@qkrtmdwn5739]

she’s such a mature and respectable woman. her father (+ her entire family) taught her really well and shaped the strong and beautiful person she is. i hope she realizes how much she is worth

[@marinasunshine4517]

I really hope Madi does not agree to stay with him oml

[@liveandletlive7152]

This is my opinion. Everyone went crazy when Luke P expected same but when Madisson expects, then all the glory to her. Let's get this straight. I do not like Luke P and i do like Madisson but i feel this is a situation of the same nature yet one was judged most unfairly while the other is the queen. Madisson and Luke P should both have stayed in church! Period!

[@elenayang9200]

Mich Pool agree!!

[@amber-ps1qm]

Exactly! If you weren't okay with what happens on this show, you shouldn't have signed up for it.

[@Cometstarlight]

It’s because we saw Luke P.’s true colors on screen. He preaches to others about his beliefs, but won’t back any of them with his own actions. He’s incredibly controlling, manipulative, dishonest, and not a true example of what a Christian should be. I can’t believe people are saying he and Madi would be a good pair. He is an AWFUL person and will guilt girls with faith to get them to do what he wants. That is not love and it certainly not Christianity.

[@Drummers2012]

I wish they would've shown his "oh crap" reaction after she said she was saving herself for marriage

[@Nick-vm9mp]

If He knew 100 percent who his pick was, he probably would not explore things in fantasy suits. Problem is, he didn’t know at this point so he decides to sleep. That is Peter’s fault

[@happydays9613]

Madison respect, never lower your standards for a man. You said it with honesty the place your coming from, this guy just isn't on the same page.

[@deenalaux5182]

I think Madison should have been up front with him way before she did. She knew it from the very beginning! Causes pain for both of them now. Plus, I think they’re not on the same page morally. A real dealbreaker. Sad for both of them.

[@paigec5017]

Right? I get my deal breakers out of the way first thing. Let him love you for you, don't trap him then reveal who you are. You don't want him if he doesn't accept your lifestyle anyways

[@JazzyLeZoo]

Why when luke p asks this of hannah everyone thinks its horrid and outdated and none of his business. But when this young classy lady expects the same everyone says yeah! Good for her she deserves better than him!... double standards much

[@Chelsea-ze9yz]

well there’s our bachelorette ladies and gents

[@aliferreira231]

Madison is a CLASS ACT!!!!!!

[@krystalsingh9792]

When Luke P said the same thing to Hannah Brown, he was receiving so much backlash for it. He was just proclaiming his faith like Madison is doing. DOUBLE STANDARD 🤦‍♀️