HDZero FPV Goggles Review - Best FPV Goggle Available Today?

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HDZero Digital FPV Goggle Review for HDZero, Analog and Avatar HD for Drones and Planes.
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00:00 Start
01:23 Unboxing
09:19 Main Specs & Features
12:04 Face Plate & Strap
14:16 Size & Weight Comparison
16:58 Compatibility With Analog & Other Systems
17:28 Analog Module Overview
19:29 HDZero Compatibility
20:26 VTX & Cameras
21:45 System Latency Overview
24:26 Open Source Goggle Software
25:08 OSD Overview
26:07 Goggles Menus Walk Through
30:25 HDZero Goggles Antenna Options
34:25 Power Input & Power Usage
36:05 Flight Test HDZero
40:38 Analog Flight & Comparison
43:14 Goggles Audio Recording
44:36 Future Features
45:33 Goggle Optics
47:54 Anti-Fog Performance
48:41 HDZero Goggle New Pricing
50:00 Mads Thoughts On The HDZero Goggle
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@RcMcNutt
@RcMcNutt Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best, most comprehensive, to the point, no bullshit, no hype train reviews I've seen. You continue to knock it out of the park Ian! It is sooo appreciated.
@spikester
@spikester Жыл бұрын
Yup, totally underrated, content like this should be over 100k subs by now. I'm too aware of how YT algo gives certain others more promotion based on how much biz they do with the big giant gargler alphabet soup.
@M-H433
@M-H433 Жыл бұрын
@spikester speaking from known expertise are you?
@user-yk1cw8im4h
@user-yk1cw8im4h Жыл бұрын
well the only valid reviewers are this dude and bardwell, all others are just clowns.
@M-H433
@M-H433 Жыл бұрын
@@user-yk1cw8im4h think you missed 1 more
@M-H433
@M-H433 Жыл бұрын
2 more
@DrMacca
@DrMacca Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal review - pre-ordered and can't wait to get my hands on them. Crazily enough...I don't even have an HD Zero VTX! I'm just stoked to use them for analog and also for the Walksnail/Avatar VRX!
@JDDupuy
@JDDupuy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this update. I just ordered mine. Finally taking orders. Goggles and Bundle options! Yes!!
@KaminKevCrew
@KaminKevCrew Жыл бұрын
Just a heads up for anyone wanting the Wi-Fi module. It’s not available yet. The current (V1) analog module sells for $30. When the Wi-Fi capable version (V2) comes out, the V1 module will no longer be available to buy. The V2 will sell for $60, but the owners of the V1 will be able to spend $30 (which is the difference in price between the V1 and V2) to get the V2 PCB which can be installed instead of the V1.
@M-H433
@M-H433 Жыл бұрын
They just released v1 and your stating v2 specs?
@flaparoundfpv8632
@flaparoundfpv8632 Жыл бұрын
What will the wifi feature be capable of?
@sirmissalot8065
@sirmissalot8065 Жыл бұрын
@@flaparoundfpv8632 stream to a phone for viewers and (as far as i know) elrs backpack
@andrewthompson7867
@andrewthompson7867 Жыл бұрын
Handy to know I feel a $30 purchase coming on :0)😂
@jaysonrees738
@jaysonrees738 Жыл бұрын
Despite leaning more towards analog and Walksnail, these goggles may actually serve both of those purposes better than anything else. It's completely insane that this one does secondary functions better than competitors do it as their primary.
@M-H433
@M-H433 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@abertheham
@abertheham Жыл бұрын
For sure. This is where Fatshark really could pay a serious price for not including ANY input options - a seemingly simple decision but with potentially catastrophic consequences… Very few people are ready to fully commit to a single video protocol, and even if they were, lots of us fly whoops and need an option for analog. A fatshark goggle with analog capability would have at least maintained potential for a competitive slot in the market, but once WS released that module, they kinda put a nail in Fatshark’s coffin… WS/Caddx will probably be able to stay relevant just by selling VTx’s, cams, and modules (not to mention Caddx’s other product line), but I really struggle to find any reason to buy FS/WS goggles at all.
@Vousie
@Vousie Жыл бұрын
@@abertheham This is exactly my situation. I currently only have analog, want to get Walksnail, but I also fly tinywhoops and I don't want to be carrying around two different goggles...
@miquelmarti6537
@miquelmarti6537 Жыл бұрын
@@Vousie That's exactly why my next googles will be HDZero. The best analog experience, an HD system with fixed lag, lightweight vtx and decent resolution. I hope they improve on penetration, wich I am confident given the age of the system. Plus it will only get cheaper when other companies start building for the system. That's the importance of open source, wich also gave ELRS a big advantage over RapidFire, Tracer and Ghost.
@Vousie
@Vousie Жыл бұрын
@@miquelmarti6537 I've considered HDZero (and for a while I thought I'd buy it), but the way it breaks up really bothers me (I prefer analog by far) and it's not quite HD. But Walksnail said they're trying to do fixed latency - and given that in the same announcement they also promised a whoop vtx and a vrx module, both of which they've now delivered, I'm inclined to believe that if it's technologically possible, then they will make it work. (Unlike DJI who have made many promises and either not delivered or only half-delivered.)
@mcclarinscott
@mcclarinscott Жыл бұрын
You are indeed reviewing them objectively against what the market presents! thank you SIR! I am most interested in the Optics compared to my HDO2 set, so far things are looking really good about that...my set comes in in 2 days!
@perso-jameslawrence9484
@perso-jameslawrence9484 Жыл бұрын
At last these goggles are there!! Thanks for your review.
@aphinion
@aphinion Жыл бұрын
This thing is gonna be a life changer. Love that goggle so much!
@davidjpeacock
@davidjpeacock 4 ай бұрын
I'm brand new to this hobby, and a huge OpenSource advocate. Thank you for this incredibly informative and easy to follow overview of the HDZeros. I'm sold on these. Loved the video, thanks!
@MichaelDFPV
@MichaelDFPV Жыл бұрын
Excellent review and thank you for taking the time to share your opinion and knowledge about the HDZero goggles. I am looking forward to the day my pre-order ships. 😁 Have a wonderful day and happy flying. 😊
@eatyourvegfpv
@eatyourvegfpv Жыл бұрын
Okay smartarse... You win the Best HDZero Goggles review award. 😜👌🏆
@GrimSpeedFPV
@GrimSpeedFPV Жыл бұрын
Now this is awesome and had my full attention! A great product from a great company. Really glad I waited for this cause definitely the direction I want to go! So there going to come out with a complete analog module for it? Man this is so what I need so I can keep some stuff analog. Thank you Ian
@aviatoFPV
@aviatoFPV Жыл бұрын
Love to see the competition ramping up in the digital landscape. Free market at it's best.
@mtcondie
@mtcondie Жыл бұрын
Great video! I learned a lot of good info. I like your shirt! Thank you!
@airheadbit1984
@airheadbit1984 Жыл бұрын
Finally, a Brit I can understand, thank you for articulating your English so well. I purchased a set yesterday after having issues with the shopping cart, Carl fixed the issues and gained a customer for life. Reason for purchase: Fogging, I have three sets of goggles, two fog within minutes. -6 to +6 focus adjustments, buying lens is a yearly thing at my age so yes, adjustable focus is a must and they must adjust past +2. Open source, OpenTX was the start, EdgeTX is fixing everything FrSKY fubared making touch and color a reality. I agree with @Rc McNutt!
@toddspeck9415
@toddspeck9415 Жыл бұрын
Amazing review. Thanks for making this review. Sure is nice seeing that beauitful U.K. scenery.
@MAD_CHILLER
@MAD_CHILLER Жыл бұрын
Really Great Review mate!!! Well done!
@h2o40fpv
@h2o40fpv Жыл бұрын
Like always u give a great review of the product . Thank you .
@ronnor58
@ronnor58 Жыл бұрын
Nice job. Very well done, Thank You! Subbed.
@rolliseventeen
@rolliseventeen Жыл бұрын
so much clever solutions. hdzero is much more moving in my target with this one. i love opensource more than my dji quality. Great informational review. thank you.
@mrmagoo600
@mrmagoo600 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that I was thinking of getting a new set of goggle 😐,.... until now 😂😂, great review, they do sound very nice.
@SenorGato237
@SenorGato237 Жыл бұрын
Latency is nice, but FOSS is flat out fantastic. I can't wait to get a pair of these (I've been waiting five years to start upgrading from my homebuild box goggles).
@steveschlesinger3459
@steveschlesinger3459 Жыл бұрын
Really great video. Thank you. I'm drawing in as much information as possible and will make a decision on an HD system by summer. This was very helpful.
@BowserMG
@BowserMG Жыл бұрын
Excellent review, very comprehensive. I will definitely be buying a pair. With my 04x/vrx combo and HDZero goggles. I can take people for ride alongs. In the comparison between the HDZero and O4X I thought the O4x looked slightly better, but that could just have been the DVR. I think HDZero should consider a goggle without the analog component. For the ones that have finally let go and moved on from analog. It might be cheaper and lighter.
@Eroc556
@Eroc556 Жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO! Thank you so much!
@StuntDoubleFPV
@StuntDoubleFPV Жыл бұрын
Extraordinary review!!!
@elxero2189
@elxero2189 Жыл бұрын
Great review man
@scrimdog3328
@scrimdog3328 Жыл бұрын
The fact it has analogue bay does it for me. Definitely would look into getting these 👍
@h2o40fpv
@h2o40fpv Жыл бұрын
I did order them today in the morning and I think the price was great thank u for the review😀
@bloatedgoatfpv
@bloatedgoatfpv Жыл бұрын
Loving mine!
@icp-trek
@icp-trek Жыл бұрын
So many features. The features we all wished for but never got, until now. Very competitive price as well. DJI listen up!
@brandonpurdy7658
@brandonpurdy7658 Жыл бұрын
I need this now. I'm glad I held out.
@gm3avxdd
@gm3avxdd Жыл бұрын
Ordered!
@VincentFischer
@VincentFischer Жыл бұрын
Great review. But I have to wait how the walksnail modules turn out before making a buying decision
@rcrdps8144
@rcrdps8144 Жыл бұрын
Surely you brought a G2/O3 quad to enjoy that awesome location. I'd fly it about 3ft off the deck, and then when I was done, I'd just sit there and watch the river.
@dannygaron
@dannygaron Жыл бұрын
Would have loved these goggles two years ago... Oh that would have been amazing 😎. Great for anyone starting out or using analog though.
@dr0n3droid
@dr0n3droid Жыл бұрын
They're clearly not for you. If you know, you know.
@quickset
@quickset Жыл бұрын
Just sold my 04L’s and ordered the HDzero goggles to go with my DJI G2.
@FlyZoneFpv
@FlyZoneFpv Жыл бұрын
Nice IAN . 👍🏻👊🏻
@paulgeorge1069
@paulgeorge1069 Жыл бұрын
Wow +6 to -6 AWESOME!!!
@fnordingers
@fnordingers Жыл бұрын
I really love the HD-Zero stuff. I already have the HDO2 with the vrx and love it. I ordered the goggles as per your previous video about the available presale for 599usd. Now they sell them for 495usd and I feel a bit dumb because a paid 105usd too much....
@AlfieDoug
@AlfieDoug Жыл бұрын
Good review thanks, my bank manager (wife) kept giving me no you don't need any more goggles looks though while I was watching the review 😀
@MatCron
@MatCron Жыл бұрын
Buy her a pair for easter Lol
@AlfieDoug
@AlfieDoug Жыл бұрын
@@MatCron Like they came free inside this large chocolate egg 😀
@abertheham
@abertheham Жыл бұрын
I chose to beg forgiveness instead of permission on these guys 😂😅
@DustinLKimble
@DustinLKimble Жыл бұрын
One month later we are getting hd osd. GO HDZERO!
@FluidityFPV
@FluidityFPV Жыл бұрын
impressive hdzero has my attention
@davehrcfpv
@davehrcfpv Жыл бұрын
HDZero Goggles are currently available (05-01-2023) Today I purchased the Freestyle Bundle = Micro V2 Camera + 120mm MIPI cable + Freestyle VTX + Antenna + HDZero FPV Goggle
@justinlantz7523
@justinlantz7523 Жыл бұрын
These look to be way better than my FS Dom HD digitals.
@nicorc9891
@nicorc9891 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your great video. I bought the HDzero goggles two weeks ago, but unfortunately I wasn't lucky enough to try them because I mounted a VTX Eco Kit with the Runcam HDZero camera, I made a hundred thousand attempts but to no avail, I can't see anything. The light on the VTX is only red, the blue one does not turn on. In my opinion it could be firmware incompatibility. I don't know what to do anymore, I ask for help if it's possible. Thank you!
@stevee7029
@stevee7029 Жыл бұрын
Good day Ian! Just received my HDZ's and have to say thanks for the head's up on the pre-order! Absolutely fantastic, just curious tho, do you know the maximum capacity microSD card size for this DVR? I would assume minimum 100Mb/s write speed as with the DJI's? Once again, thanks so much for the fully instructive "review". Much more of a resource than almost any reviewer out there, and likely the most current. Great Job Sir!!!
@MadRC
@MadRC Жыл бұрын
I need to check the recording bitrate. I don’t know the max off the top of my head but the usual would be 256gb. But I need to check this.
@mihyouko
@mihyouko Жыл бұрын
Great review as always, Ian, thank you! I'm really tempted to buy these goggles but I'm a little afraid I will have a problem with my rather large IPD of around 72 mm. I've only owned box goggles until now. So I don't have a feeling if the maximum IPD of 70 mm of these goggle will be a problem for me. I would actually be willing to modify the housing of the goggles with my trusty Dremel. And looking at the CAD model available on Github I think it might be possible to gain another mm on each of the adjustment sliders. But as the model does not include all parts of the goggle I cannot be sure. Maybe you can comment on that when you inevitably take apart these goggles?
@Deserthacker
@Deserthacker Жыл бұрын
I don't think being 2mm off will be an issue. I usually set my IPD just by feel. Although it could be that I'm just not particularly sensitive to this.
@phiveone
@phiveone Жыл бұрын
Who actually ordered them first and then watched the review? I did. 🔥🔥🔥
@ArtusMucFPV
@ArtusMucFPV Жыл бұрын
Me too - cause i have seen the new price :)
@DrMacca
@DrMacca Жыл бұрын
Ditto! Once I saw Ian post the affiliate link I was in! 👍
@c666viper666
@c666viper666 Жыл бұрын
I'm about to buy new goggles soon (coming from analog with the eachine 800d). The only other goggles i ever tried are the dji v2 (flying) and the g2 (just put them on for a few mins in a dji store). I don't like the fit of the v2 but the g2 were comfortable in my opinion. Just had small issues to get sharp corners. Since the dvr is not always representative for what you actually see: can anyone who tried both the goggles 2 and the new hdzero goggles, tell me if the difference in image quality is that big? which of both goggles do you prefer for freestyle and flying around for exploring and flying around with friends? I'm not racing so often and just want to have the best total expierence. And more important: I don't want to invest 1000€+ to get a hyped system that actually isn't really better than some of the alternatives :) thank you
@chorchecze
@chorchecze Жыл бұрын
Hope that OLED auto off work better than on Orqa googles 😀. HDZero community should implement on this googles all "Orqa - build to be best" features which never work reliably (OLED saver, headtilt alarm, headtracker, wifi streaming etc.)
@Spideystrat
@Spideystrat Жыл бұрын
Hi MT, Is the analogue DVR 60 fps ? And would you go with these over the SKy 04X V1s ?
@gregtay67
@gregtay67 Жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive, And I love Beavis & Butthead.😆
@DavidOwensuk
@DavidOwensuk Жыл бұрын
Great video than you Ian
@jonowillmer
@jonowillmer Жыл бұрын
Very good review thank you. I must say as a first time digital user it has been a little bit of a learning curve getting this set up. I tried to use a steadyview receiver in the bay without success and my prescription with an astigmatism falls outside what is covered by these goggles, it is flyable, but not crystal clear. I hope to get some lenses for them one day. I am learning more each time I use them and the 2 flights I've managed with them have been night and day compared to my cobra x v2 goggles, though they work with my glasses well. Can't wait to figure things out and relax enough to really enjoy them. Thanks again Ian for your honest work.
@MadRC
@MadRC Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@SniperPFL
@SniperPFL Жыл бұрын
Are contact lenses out of the question? I have a pretty strong astigmatism myself and have worn contacts for probably almost 20 years now.
@jonowillmer
@jonowillmer Жыл бұрын
@@SniperPFLthank you no they work well, I just prefer to be able to grab my goggles and not have to wear contacts just to use them. I can see enough to fly but it isn't enjoyable. With contacts in it is great.
@SniperPFL
@SniperPFL Жыл бұрын
@@jonowillmer That's understandable. I just have always worn my contacts day and night, much to the dismay of my Optometrist lol
@jonowillmer
@jonowillmer Жыл бұрын
@@SniperPFL I'm old and lazy now I just wear my glasses more. Haha.
@oak3076
@oak3076 Жыл бұрын
I only fly analog at this point in time. The possibilities these goggles present is tremendous, however to get them for analog and someday HD makes them a $700 to $800 set of goggles, even at the current discounted price. You have to be able to say I am definitely going to fly digital. Otherwise they are not financially justifiable. This of course only applies if you have any type of budget that isn't unlimited. If you are going to fly HDZero, well then, WOW!!! They are cheaper than good analog goggles.
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Жыл бұрын
Holy shit. For many years I've been satisfied with my old 2015 era FatShark goggles and really didn't care for whatever new digital whizzbangs were out there. But watching this video the whole time I'm thinking I want it I want it I want it I want it. The external mic to DVR is really nice and would save me a lot of time editing video later. I love that it can do analog too. How does the head-tracker IMU data get to the aircraft if there is no two-way transmission? Great video, thanks!
@pfeerick
@pfeerick Жыл бұрын
The head-tracker port puts out PPM signal, so I guess it would be up to your RC link to do the head-tracker control, like with Cliffs Headtracker project, or some of the other analog goggles like the Aomway Commander V1s that had an optional head tracker module (still using those myself, but am now eyeing the HDZero goggles also).
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Жыл бұрын
@@pfeerick That makes sense. How did you know that, I was searching all over the HDZero site and didn't see any mention of a head-tracker output port.
@pfeerick
@pfeerick Жыл бұрын
Ian mentioned the port in the review, and the manual for the goggles shows pinout as PPM and GND, but doesn't seem to be much more info atm :-/
@aviphysics
@aviphysics Жыл бұрын
Max refresh is 100hz in the latest firmware, for Avatar VRX
@IanF-FPV
@IanF-FPV Жыл бұрын
Excellent review Ian. I guess if you have no goggles currently then sure this would be at the top of the list. However as someone who already owns analog goggles with OLEDS and hdmi in it just doesn’t make much sense for me personally. I don’t race either. Great price at 495.
@elxero2189
@elxero2189 Жыл бұрын
Yes agreed, remember this has a built in hd receiver and the ability to run walk snail vrx as low latency 100hz mode too these abilities you're basically getting free
@sams9716
@sams9716 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried the walksnail vrx with these goggles? Does it look as good as the walksnail goggles?
@HuCzEk92
@HuCzEk92 Жыл бұрын
HdZero+Avatar vrx or DJ o3 with DJ goggles 2? I really can't decide. It will be my first fpv system. For now I ordered Radiomaster Boxer... Guys what would you choose?
@martynstockings2330
@martynstockings2330 Жыл бұрын
How much did you have to pay on import tax in the UK when they arrived?
@hornyj1
@hornyj1 Жыл бұрын
I'm really looking forward to the 1080p mode. 30fps is quite slow, but for exploratory and sight seeing flying it's OK-ish. All the features packed into the HDZero are nice, but if the image still looks like a bit improved analog (compared to competition), it's hard to justify unless you are racer or very fast freestyle pilot...
@metalfpv
@metalfpv Жыл бұрын
have you tried it ? without being a racer or even a good pilot, I can tell you than the reduced latency makes a real difference. \But maybe I'm weird, sims give me motion sickness because of the latency between the tx and the pc. Even though I can not consciously say than there is less latency with those goggles than with the external vrx, I can clearly see suddenly my quad "feels" like it flyes better
@hornyj1
@hornyj1 Жыл бұрын
@@metalfpv I was flying analog for some time, but no personal experience with HDZero or other digital system except DJI. Would definitely like to try one though! I'm not quick enough to be able to correct myself based on what I see in the googles constantly. I fly based on feeling (projecting myself to the quad itself) and if the quad is suddenly a meter lower or made the corner too wide I adjust my inputs the second time I'm doing the trick / fly the same corner. I'm also not pushing the FPV/RC link to its limits so even the "variable latency system" out there is giving me +-5 ms constant latency and that's not noticeable (not only for me). I don't have motion sickness issues even in VR games (on PC), where the latency goes to the roof if your PC is not up to the task. I guess I'm lucky I don't have this issue...
@SkeezyFPV
@SkeezyFPV Жыл бұрын
30 fps goggle video is bad. Check out video of the Avata flying at 30 fps. It’s almost unflyable due to the stuttering. I wouldn’t get too excited. Putting an ND filter on makes it even worse due to the motion blur. Personally I like 120 fps and can’t understand why anyone would ever want to fly below 60 fps 🤷‍♂️
@hornyj1
@hornyj1 Жыл бұрын
@@SkeezyFPV It’s bad from latency point of view, but stuttering or excesive motion blur? The whole film industry is about visuals (and story, sound in rare cases) and all is in 24fps! If I could choose between stunning gopro-like image at 30fps and colorful blob of rectangles at 120fps I’ll choose the former. I’m not saying you are wrong or anything. It’s just personal preference and you have a different one than me. That’s normal and completely OK for me.🙂
@SkeezyFPV
@SkeezyFPV Жыл бұрын
@@hornyj1 I’ll admit that I fly for the fun of it and video quality for me is secondary. I’m mostly concerned with seeing where I’m going and if I get a good video out of it then that’s just gravy 😂
@John_Doe_6996
@John_Doe_6996 2 ай бұрын
I kindof wish I got these instead of the V2. But the price difference was the determining factor.
@alexandreptito8485
@alexandreptito8485 10 ай бұрын
would it be aceptable if i took my x2air antennas from my dji goggles and used an rpsma to sma adaptor and use them on my hdzero goggles?
@terrymurphy562
@terrymurphy562 Жыл бұрын
See what Ian said, HD Zero have listened to the Fpv community. Why aren’t the likes of Dji and others not doing the same thing???. No hype and bullshit with this company and at that price, it shows they are not greedy. Spot on company.
@tk-maker
@tk-maker Жыл бұрын
Yes, this the ultimate swiss army knife for FPV, Hello DJI when you wana support HDMI in and ANALOG in?
@aerialimagery3216
@aerialimagery3216 Жыл бұрын
The goggles look great. Here’s the real question Ian, if your going out to fly for fun or fly freestyle and you can only bring one quad and goggle. Are you grabbing the DJI G2 with 03 or these goggles? To me these are for racing. For freestyle or cruising, DJI or Avatar are better.
@Vousie
@Vousie Жыл бұрын
How about these goggles with the Avatar module? Seems like a pretty excellent setup. Also great if you fly with friends who don't all use the same system. With these it means you can spectate on anything but DJI.
@227giorgio
@227giorgio Жыл бұрын
I just got my goggles 2 and just flat out love them to much to waste the same pricing for these. There open source and that's awesome but video quality in the dji is unbeatable. But it's getting close and that's awesome bec that should take some pricing down and cause dji to start some open source
@abertheham
@abertheham Жыл бұрын
Soooo stoked to have my order in. My only hope is that I like these goggles with the walksnail module well enough to ditch DJI all together. It’s delusional to compare anything to the O3, but I’m at the point where “good enough” can be good enough for me in a lot of respects. Really awesome that early adopters are getting a refund for the price differential too. Never heard of a company doing something like that. Carl and the HDZero team are the heroes we needed but don’t deserve…
@lemonsquareFPV
@lemonsquareFPV Жыл бұрын
This is what this goggle has done for me. I run HDZero, Avatar and analog on this goggle, and have been happy, very happy! The O3/G2 is beautiful, but feels bad in the air, was a novelty for a couple of weeks but I ditched it because it caused huge problems flying with others, they can only use channel 1 and 8 or get knocked out of the air randomly. Super sad. But honestly it wasn’t a viable flying experience for me, just bothered me in flight, a lot honestly. I never could fly like I want, in the month I forced myself to used it, and the few weeks I owned and flew every day. I just couldn’t get used to the weird lagging.
@abertheham
@abertheham Жыл бұрын
@@lemonsquareFPV that’s good to hear. I am almost done with my first O3 build and excited to try it on my v2 goggles. It was beautiful when I saw it on the G2s and Avata, but yeah… I’d take vista-level image quality in a goggle that did everything else over carrying a second setup just to get the O3 image, personally. Fingers crossed walksnail can deliver a close-enough-to-vista kind of experience.
@lemonsquareFPV
@lemonsquareFPV Жыл бұрын
@@abertheham the V2 with O3 is a horrible experience, I think DJI optimized everything in the O3 system for the G2. With that combination, it looks absolutely amazing honestly! You will be super happy with O3, it is a very cool experience! Just not for me, and my style. But it literally could be perfect for you, don’t let my opinion sway you, at all. For picture quality, it is breathtaking, and the shadow detail is amazing with the G2 goggle, on the V2s I couldn’t fly or see in the shadows, at all. When I switched to the G2 I could explore in near pitch dark in this decrepit factory I was flying, I couldn’t even go inside it with the V2s. It is a VERY, different experience, and I definitely do not recommend you use the V2 goggles. But as with everything, don’t just take my word for it, or anyone else’s to be honest, please try it yourself. You will see what I mean. But if you don’t fly in marginal lightings conditions, it’s fine. Again, just because I don’t like it , doesn’t mean you shouldn’t. Just experiment and form your own opinion. Happy flying!
@abertheham
@abertheham Жыл бұрын
@@lemonsquareFPV appreciate the response. I’ll tinker with image settings and whatnot but yeah… I’m not buying G2’s - basically no scenario in which I’d go that route. If I don’t like the O3/V2 experience, I’ll just stick with Vistas until I decide to drop DJI entirely. We’ll see…
@lemonsquareFPV
@lemonsquareFPV Жыл бұрын
@@abertheham image settings don’t work unfortunately, but maybe you will have better luck. Firmware DOES change, so things might be different now, I completely dropped DJI a few weeks ago, and maybe things have changed since? I dropped DJI after the havoc O3 caused flying with others (and the fact most are not flying it in my area), definitely not a social system, unless everyone runs it, but just on principle I’m done with it. Plus honestly I have been enjoying the consistent latency of Avatar. Vistas can still be sold for good money. The majority run DJI, so the system will always have a good size user base, and if you fly only with DJI pilots I would say, stick with it, it’s a great system honestly. Whatever you decide, I wish you the best of luck, and hope you find what you are looking for. After playing with everything I finally found something I fell in love with, HDZero goggle! So me, I am very happy, and wish everyone could get to this point in their journey, and just be happy and not bicker about nothing :p
@thechillingdrone
@thechillingdrone Жыл бұрын
Why Ian... I already own the dji 2 and the walksnail... Don't make me buy this one too 🤣
@azixaka
@azixaka Жыл бұрын
An outstanding review Ian! Thank you. To me personally, the image is close to analogue rather than DJI quality wise. It's nowhere near Vista and definitely not even comparable to the O3 air unit in terms of the picture. I guess true racers won't care but after seeing Vanny flying DJI for years and PhantomFPV using DJI at all times, and these two are probably one of the fastest racers and freestylers ever, I can't believe anyone would really want to trade high quality HD image for a few milliseconds latency.
@AndyDreadFPV
@AndyDreadFPV Жыл бұрын
You may be missing the point? It's about versatility. Think about it... With these goggles one can fly analog or HDZero for racing where one cannot fly DJI or AvatarHD and they can still freestyle with AvatarHD VRX at 100fps if they need bando penetration and want higher quality image. Can still fly analog, HDZero and AvatarHD whoops. Phantom doesn't race, Vanny doesn't fly DJI in races. These goggles are for people who want flexibilty to race and freestyle not just freestyle and also for people who want access to fly as many different types of quads that become available such as digital whoops, micros, and cinewhoops whether they be HDZero, AvatarHD or analog.
@azixaka
@azixaka Жыл бұрын
@@AndyDreadFPV Agreed, it does everything good enough but obviously doing many things means compromising on these things to strike some balance. If someone has a park of quads with analogue cameras, they probably own goggles that work with these quads, so I guess that particular flexibility won't matter that much for these pilots. You don't get much versatility with DJI systems, it's Vista or O3 but the one thing that you get there is a superior picture, nothing comes even close to it. I just feel like for your eyes that spend all the time looking on the picture inside the googles coming from the camera on the quad, picture quality would be the most valuable parameter that you wouldn't want to compromise on, just logically. 🙂 Vanny did race with DJI, there is a nice video of him testing DJI vs HD Zero and he was actually faster with DJI. Phantom is well known for his super fast proximity flights. How fast doesn't even matter, the point is that, the biggest selling point of HD Zero, ie what they prioritised in their compromises triangle is the latency which for any pilot simply won't matter. Vanny is probably in the 97+th percentile of racers and Phantom is in the 97+th percentile of fast freestylers. Latency isn't an issue for them in DJI system, why would it matter to anyone else? 🙂 Don't get me wrong, the new goggles from HDZero are great and it's super cool it's opensource, works with this and that and so on. It will absolutely have its piece of the market and fair enough. It's just the picture quality is on par with analogue not with the bar DJI set and for me, personally, and I believe for a lot of people, picture quality is what matters the most. It's a bit like DJI being an iPhone like system while HDZero open source stuff is more like Android. Nothing wrong with either of them, just have different priorities - smooth, visually appealing, simple user experience VS flexible, works everywhere opensource platform.
@AndyDreadFPV
@AndyDreadFPV Жыл бұрын
@@azixaka The AvatarHD with recent firmware comes close picture quality of O3 and the VRX will work with these goggles at 100Hz, Yes it' not as good but it's not that far off, maybe 10-15% better on O3. Many pilots would trade that little less picture quality for the massive increase in versatility since this goggles will run AvatarHD at 100Hz. A few won't and that's Ok too. This product does though, serve a market segment of people who value versatility and the ability to fly multiple different systems with just one goggle and don't need the extra little bit picture quality of O3 over AvatarHD and they can still race with ultra low latency.
@azixaka
@azixaka Жыл бұрын
@@AndyDreadFPV Obviously subjective but I tried both and to me it's nowhere 10-15% difference, the difference is huge, it's twice or more better. These goggles have 90Hz OLED screens btw, so the VRX will not work at 100Hz. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmeYlZeEaNGKoM0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXbLdZyni6mCis0 But of course, if you see little to no difference in image quality between DJI O3 and the rest then sure, go for a cheaper, more versatile set up of course mate! For me personally, the difference in picture quality is too big to be ignored. DJI Googles 2 and O3 Air Unit do just one thing and don't work with anything else but Vista, but they do it damn well, simply the best image possible.
@AndyDreadFPV
@AndyDreadFPV Жыл бұрын
@@azixaka aparently they work at 100hz with the AvatarHD VRX just fine.
@AHTOH4uk1979
@AHTOH4uk1979 Жыл бұрын
Please penetration test side by side : walksnail, dji air unit/o3
@elxero2189
@elxero2189 Жыл бұрын
Why? You already know how it's going to turn out lol. Hdz isn't the penetration king but it's absolutely great for other things and what it does it does very well. Perhaps the 540p mode will have better penetration
@GardoRotor
@GardoRotor Жыл бұрын
Having hdo2s , DJI goggles2 and Avatar... I concur the optics are the best in the Avatar's. The optics in the DJI ones are the most difficult, I'm hoping foam can fix that.
@MadRC
@MadRC Жыл бұрын
The DJI is just shocking.
@azixaka
@azixaka Жыл бұрын
How can foam fix optics?
@GardoRotor
@GardoRotor Жыл бұрын
@@azixaka hear me out.... when I take off the dji pad thing, then just look through the goggles, it's all fine
@azixaka
@azixaka Жыл бұрын
@@GardoRotor Oh really! I don't understand it still. So getting kind of further away from the screens by a few millimetres of the foam's thickness improves optics? I should give it a try!
@dr0n3droid
@dr0n3droid Жыл бұрын
@@azixaka Focal length is super important for clarity. Think magnifying glass or binoculars or microscope.
@nightsky001
@nightsky001 Жыл бұрын
Does it have 4,3 and 16,9 display????
@nelsonapontejr.6793
@nelsonapontejr.6793 Жыл бұрын
Are the antennas LHCP or RHCP?
@fpvlive
@fpvlive Жыл бұрын
If DJI also decide to come with a VRX then this is definitely the one and only option..
@vipecrx
@vipecrx Жыл бұрын
probably one of the reasons why they never will
@Lukeflight23
@Lukeflight23 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the walk though.
@yaronskp
@yaronskp Жыл бұрын
What about the range?
@chaosfleabag9209
@chaosfleabag9209 Жыл бұрын
Cost of import is going to be an issue, upto 20% can be levied and thats before "administration" costs of the courier (such as Royal mails weird handling fees they sometimes attach to imports). I've been burned this way before on aircraft camera mounts, paying a total of around 30% of the original costs in charges alone! The goggles look great but with costs these goggles could get to £700 easily depending on exchange rate and costs! Hopefully HDZero will let retailers and dealers do B2B shipping to minimise the costs to potential customers.
@jet4fun54
@jet4fun54 Жыл бұрын
All looks great, but why doesn't anyone make a IPD
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell Жыл бұрын
Generally, the optics modules are purchased completely assembled and the IPD range is chosen by the maker of the optics module. The goggle manufacturer doesn't have any choice here, especially when they are sourcing a very limited availability optics module like 1080p OLED 100 Hz, of which there may be literally only one available.
@hallio111
@hallio111 Жыл бұрын
uh yeah.. 1 hour mads tech? I'm in.
@abertheham
@abertheham Жыл бұрын
I know algorithms reward short frequent videos with lots of hits, but I am one of the weird ones that’s always looking for long form FPV content.
@DiraPictures
@DiraPictures Жыл бұрын
Didnt get an answer on the Internet. Is this sound recording over the trrs also possible in the analog DVR?
@MadRC
@MadRC Жыл бұрын
Yes but you need to make sure any internal mic is off for that module.
@modquad18
@modquad18 Жыл бұрын
Rx only, very nice! No brain tumors down the line like you risk getting with dji or ws 👍🏽
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 Жыл бұрын
Well, I ordered some. Must confess though I chose Nick burns first as his video was only (😂) 40 mins whilst yours was almost an hour!! Ordered after Nick's video and just finished yours. I think you did an excellent job here well done. When you spoke of the screen edges been blurry can they be reduced like on the DJI goggles?
@flyingdutchmanfpv
@flyingdutchmanfpv Жыл бұрын
Funny how minds can be alike... just did the very same thing 🙂 I always love and appreciate Ian's the indepth an honest views
@dr0n3droid
@dr0n3droid Жыл бұрын
I went to Botgrinder's vid first. I've always been a dessert before dinner kinda guy.
@flyingdutchmanfpv
@flyingdutchmanfpv Жыл бұрын
@@dr0n3droid Loved Bot's vid, I guess I just had my dessert... cracks me up everytime how he chooses to f* things up. I mean using a beat up crappy VTX in a review? Great stuff...LOL🙂
@Clickmaster5k
@Clickmaster5k Жыл бұрын
Do these need antenna in pairs? Can you operate them with one Omni and 3 directional antennas instead with out issues?
@elxero2189
@elxero2189 Жыл бұрын
Yes you can actually. Nothing says you can't it's just that there are optimal ways to use the system. Just use what you got
@XtianApi
@XtianApi Жыл бұрын
Plus 6 diopters. Damn, stop winning my blind self over. I really don't want to support dji, but I want digital. I'm still not 100 percent convinced by some of the tests I've seen. I don't know big range, but... I don't know...
@tonhabraken9339
@tonhabraken9339 Жыл бұрын
Dang. I really wanted to not want to buy this. 😂 … now I gotta. Thanks. ;)
@r.eyvprdctn
@r.eyvprdctn Жыл бұрын
I guess the real problem is that the screens only have 90Hz and Walksnail Vrx needs 100Hz to reach the lowest latency possible.. How difficult could it be for Walksnail to lower the output of their module to 90Hz?
@MadRC
@MadRC Жыл бұрын
The goggles now support 109hz mode for avatar
@kandredfpv
@kandredfpv Жыл бұрын
One of the only reviewers who didn't over hype the new hardware de-interlacing when discussing the analog performance, and rightly so since your side-by-side comparison video speaks for itself. Apart from the difference in saturation (which is likely due to the modules being different) the analog performance was pretty much identical IMO. Based on this I'm sticking with my Skyzone 04x. Funny how even with the VRX it's still 30g lighter than the HDZero goggles 😂
@MadRC
@MadRC Жыл бұрын
There is better image processing in the HDZero goggle that attributes for the goggle improved analog look. The de interlacing is noticeable but not dramatic
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines Жыл бұрын
It's a feature rich goggle but... 1) I have some analogue goggles. 2) I couldn't live with HD zero's almost constant breakup. 3) Ultra low latency is of little interest to me. On the upside, the + 6 focal range is better than just plus 2 like on my Walksnails... HDMI input port...🤔😳🇬🇧
@M-H433
@M-H433 Жыл бұрын
Very true
@elxero2189
@elxero2189 Жыл бұрын
Almost constant breakup? Where do you fly bro? Are you flying strictly in high reflective metal envrions? Where are you seeing constant breakups lol
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines Жыл бұрын
@@elxero2189 You can see it on most HD zero clips...go anywhere slightly out of LOS and it starts it's breakup....🤔🙄😳😏
@miquelmarti6537
@miquelmarti6537 Жыл бұрын
how would you screw a pair of normal patches (think menace) on the front? Is there space to put your fingers there and tighen the bolt?
@jonowillmer
@jonowillmer Жыл бұрын
It would be tricky, but people have been printing nut extenders to help.
@MadRC
@MadRC Жыл бұрын
I have 90 adapters and the pico patch fits fine. There is plenty of space for doing the nut up
@miquelmarti6537
@miquelmarti6537 Жыл бұрын
at the end of the day i'm using 4 omnis. that makes it so compact and the reception is still good.
@odoublegfpv701
@odoublegfpv701 Жыл бұрын
So as a old fpver this looks beautiful and what we dreamed lol.... I'm still analog not even flown for 5 or so years due to depression but my alien is ready.
@odoublegfpv701
@odoublegfpv701 Жыл бұрын
I would usually delete but fooooik it I'll call out help sh su and lost
@pvampire
@pvampire Жыл бұрын
I hope you feel better soon.
@odoublegfpv701
@odoublegfpv701 Жыл бұрын
@@pvampire thank you
@ghiss46
@ghiss46 Жыл бұрын
Would you upgrade from the 04x with module? Or not enough benefit
@rohitkudre3792
@rohitkudre3792 Жыл бұрын
If you only fly analog, I would suggest you stay with Sky04x. Features will be pretty similar and O4X have larger FOV in 4:3. If you're gonna fly walksnail or hdzero, absolutely Hdzero.
@ugpfpv361
@ugpfpv361 Жыл бұрын
Would have bought it in a second of the IPD was wider by a couple mm
@jeffv2074
@jeffv2074 Жыл бұрын
Anyone interested in twice used set of Dji Goggles v2? I'm done with dji I'm getting a HDzero.
@fallenwout
@fallenwout Жыл бұрын
Why does it say 720p60 on the box @2:17 I though these were 1080p goggles?
@MadRC
@MadRC Жыл бұрын
The goggle displays are 1080p. HDZero supports live feed of 720p60 and soon 1080p 30fps.
@deadstickfpv
@deadstickfpv Жыл бұрын
I just purchased the hdzero goggles.. stil I think the should have included a case..especially wheb you pay 600 dollars for this system
@andrebalsa203
@andrebalsa203 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately as of September 2023 they are out of stock mostly everywhere and when you can find they are overpriced, hovering at around $800 without the analog module (which is an extra $200).
@wattage2007
@wattage2007 Жыл бұрын
But does the HDMI input record to the built in DVR?
@MadRC
@MadRC Жыл бұрын
Edit no.
@wattage2007
@wattage2007 Жыл бұрын
@@MadRC Really? Since asking this question I’ve heard from people that it doesn’t and that the hdmi input is routed directly to the screens for lowest latency.
@MadRC
@MadRC Жыл бұрын
Actually I’m wrong. It’s possible but not today. Sorry I was thinking of something else a moment.
@wattage2007
@wattage2007 Жыл бұрын
@@MadRC Thanks. Real pity these goggles don't do this but seems like none offer HDMI in recording.
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