The Biggest Changes In Burning Crusade Classic

[@toohighstrung]

The good ol days before I got old

[@weareribbons]

Thanks for reminding me.

[@remyd8767]

That Chrono trigger music :)

[@Mx6Own0r]

I'm not crying! You are crying!

[@asmrtpop2676]

Robbie dude ain’t no one gonna be saying that, did you forget the pandemic?

[@RalphGoesToSpace]

Yep me too..

[@madseasonshow]

Bit of a wait on this one - it went through a bunch of changes. Hope you enjoy though!

[@zaooza34]

1. Resilence. 2. You don`t need to play an orc to be succesful

[@yesiam4610]

MadSeasonShow is the best

[@lhfinatl7068]

I spat my coffee at "my work here is done".

[@Werty6401]

In this video you admitted to dabbling in musk and honestly mad respect because in 2020 u like what u like

[@Citizen_JQP]

MadSeason.... You have never once disappointed with your choice of background music sir. Never.

[@shoobror8291]

You have a talent for picking just the right music for every scene in every video you make.

[@madseasonshow]

Glad you like it! Links are in description if you'd like to check out the original work without the monotone VO

[@shoobror8291]

@@sithlordgaming6692 I don't mean in this particular video. I mean all of his videos ^^

[@shoobror8291]

@@madseasonshow Cool! =)

[@yxada1998]

@@madseasonshow Dude, these things wouldn't work without your voiceovers. Lot's of fun hearing your memories ( Many of which we share ) It's like walking into the arcade you lived in as a kid. Everything has changed but, you walk in and it all comes right back.

[@marinhrabric6162]

I like your profile picture

[@Pizzagoblin]

"Where the men are separated from the slightly more sweaty, unkept men"

[@Walterion]

"Don't get hyped, it isn't even confirmed yet." - Madseasonshow, after making a 19 minutes video about things that gets him hyped.

[@lynxerz]

I fucking love this man

[@CrixxionGamingOfficial]

Hes a responsible lad

[@nesano4735]

The 10 biggest changes in something that hasn't even been confirmed yet? Why does this video even exist?

[@dubious6718]

Hopefully resillence will be cut out It got removed for obvious reasons (PvP gear > PvE gear for PvE)

[@lynxerz]

@@nesano4735 because we already know how it would be if it got released and for the sake of nostalgia and hype we can speculate, simple as that

[@sageosaka]

God I loved tbc so much. It was the first time I went full hardcore wow (played original vanilla but only casually really.) The sense of progression you felt finally killing lady vashj and you could finally start working on kael'thas, or from archimonde to BT. I feel like TBC was the absolute sweet spot in wows history between "early enough that everything isn't homogenized yet" and "matured from the imbalance and inexperience of vanilla"

[@IAmAlorel]

So much this. My perfect patch, all aspects of the game considered, is still 3.1 (Ulduar), but classes were already beginning to get majorly homogenised then (and pvp was DK/frost mage or die) - 2.4 is a close second, mainly because lower tier content never really got abandoned on my server so we still got to experience the whole of TBC throughout.

[@TheCrawdaddy029]

Same here man. I still wear my " the hand" title today because it was the last time the skilled were separated from the mass.

[@Ghalion666]

I actually liked wrath more but not by much. BC on the other hand I like significantly more than early and/or late vanilla.

[@TheCrawdaddy029]

@@hydraulixx I'll give that there were great players that were not on 8 hours a day. I'm more speaking for those that do play 8 hours today and get to see all the content compared to then where you actually had to be good. Just putting in a 40 hour week doesnt mean you are good enough to see 40 hour a week rewards. Of course the latter of that doesn't ring that true when my guild charged people for content runs.

[@FrankLucas-pw5hs]

WotLK was the GOAT

[@Froggeh92]

i once saw two resto druids duel infront of iron forge when i was a wee lad. its been 15 years but legend has it theyre still dueling to this day

[@brob797]

How anyone could dislike any of your videos is beyond me, thanks for being a content creator I can count on to put me in a good mood every time!

[@DeliriumzzZ]

As a programmer for a large gaming company, it truly blows my mind that Blizzard didn't just have the source code for different versions ... This is viewed as one of the premier companies, yet they don't make proper point releases which have a centralised storage location? If someone asked me to get a build for our game from 2 years ago, it would take me just as long to retrieve that compared to our latest. Sure, the hardware on which we're running might give us some stick, and it will take some figuring out as we don't virtualise every point release ... but what the fuck Blizzard? If they didn't have that 1 random employee who still had a hard drive slinging around, classic WoW would've never existed :^) Fucking nuts.

[@jasonr8967]

Was it really gone or is Blizzard just BSing as some kind of marketing ploy? I cannot believe that a company with global reach, with thousands of game servers, with millions of customers, with dozens of renowned titles, or with decades of experience as a leader in the gaming industry wouldn't have the old versions of their games hidden away somewhere on an ancient storage array that only gets powered on when someone wants a trip down memory (quite literally) lane.

[@DanielMaixner]

Yea, I can´t really fathom it either. I mean, SVN launched in 2000, and GIT a year after wow´s initial release, 2005. I don´t understand how they can develop without some sort of version control.

[@vajda958]

A couple months ago I learned that the Class Design and Balance team consisted of 1 person for more than one expansion, and no more than 2 o 3 for most of them. At that moment I couldn't believe it, and understood a lot of problems that the game had during it's life. After that I started digging and looking at a lot of videos and posts and the story repeats A LOT: less than efficient systems to do things, very few ppl for massive parts of the development process, etc (not even gonna talk about other more controversial stuff). So it doesn't really surprise me

[@SunniestAutumn]

"THIS WHERE THE BIG BOYS PLAY, HUH?! LOOK AT THE *ADJECTIVE:* 'PLAY'!"

[@madseasonshow]

I love ajectives

[@kinneas]

@@madseasonshow Kevin Nash loves them as much as he loves his quad.

[@garygood6804]

HEY-YO!! Wanna smash?

[@notallgarbage]

Yeah.... and verbs are important too, like "BIG"!!!

[@Es-yb3db]

​@@kinneashe tore it before I could even respond to this

[@Do1an]

That R. Kelly comment caught me off guard. Well played 😂

[@mileslemon]

I actually really like how in classic, the items found off mobs and given as quest rewards are something that can be useful later in your journey. It's like all these trophys and trinkets you've collected along the way are actually a useful part of your kit, something you would actually want. Rather than it being something only useful as a stack stick during the level got it.

[@TheAssirra]

Except very few people collected these items due the fact that bagspace was super limited and everyone was bad. So you were basically screwed if you sold that quest item which most people did.

[@cstgraphpads2091]

So many of those items also had silly long cooldowns, so there really wasn't much reason to even keep a lot of the non-raid role trinkets.

[@owrlowrl]

@@cstgraphpads2091 he's just saying that one-time items with special unique use; effects are nice for creativity and maxing out your main in a special way

[@lvsoad22]

mileslemon bc was still like this somewhat

[@madseasonshow]

Yeah it's a pretty dividing thing. I like it - usually if something is so hard to camp(such as tidal charm) it ends up being so rare that if you don't have it, doesn't matter that much anyways. It's very classic-esque which is my preference.

[@Blank7500]

Thank you madseasonshow for putting us all to sleep with your warm voice

[@codyslone9258]

Mad your content is so well thought out and incredibly structured

[@Sergalt]

"I am pretty optimistic, as you can tell" Yes Mad, we detect that minuscule amount of inflection in your tone xD

[@IndustryOfMagic]

I like the video but I thumbs down his videos because of his voice tone that gives me depression.

[@thejuzz0591]

For some reason MadSeason's content makes me feel nostalgic even though I have no experience from WoW before like Legion.

[@isaacschrantz3098]

Dude I keep saluting you in BGs. One of these days I'll earn one back from you! (Taurón)

[@Joshua-uq9zw]

I will say it again: TBC was the best version of WoW, and I would give my left nutsack to play it again. Please Blizzard, make it happen.

[@Kaszymyr]

Why do you have more than one nutsack?

[@Joshua-uq9zw]

@@Kaszymyr im a mutant

[@philip0544]

@Makchu Cook or you could, y know, wait a year for the inevitable release of classic BC. Where you'll actually have a healthy amount of people and all mechanics actually work.

[@russlemiller6574]

Makchu Cook lol not true, all the bc servers are insta 70 or 2X rates with weird ass loot tables and raids with no mechanics.

[@vinzch4898]

@Makchu Cook Biggest TBC pserver has like 5k pop, with only 4-5 BG pop at the same time where you always fight the same players, and crash 10 times per day... This has NOTHING to do with a classic TBC

[@EdBurke37]

Big love for the Kevin Nash "adjective" line.

[@seraphimdunaway8084]

Thank you for marking such fun and relaxing videos! These are one of the highlights of my week!

[@Xenicon2006]

You keep putting these super nostalgic background music in the video and I end up only listening to the music rather than pay attention to what you're saying.

[@Deathgeist]

I love how often you've used the Guardia Forest theme from Chrono Trigger lately, such an amazing tune. Great video as always, so glad I found your channel a few months back.

[@Thelizardbloats]

my favorite change from classic to tbc is "clicking nothing un-targets."

[@GTFOIMAO]

Very very nice video and the first 3 minutes caught me completely! You got a talent for this stuff!

[@kallenxtv321]

I love how play is an adjective 😂😂😂

[@enriqueshockwave]

survive and play are both verbs

[@kallenxtv321]

@@enriqueshockwave that's why I love that they're "adjectives"😂

[@Hawk_R6]

Your videos are really of high quality. I mean there is always a longer time between uploads, but I am always happy when I see one of you videos. I don’t even play WoW anymore.

[@Weeboslav]

3:43 Let's hope she'll play tbc again...

[@limitlessbeast3867]

bro if she is willing to do that for gold, I don't wanna touch that shit and neither should you. God knows what nasty shit has been inside her before you get there.

[@nadie154]

she must be close to 40 ish now....

[@hmthisisit]

@JoeysRattata But there are certain things from which only a divine shield can save you.

[@Alecto44811]

@@limitlessbeast3867 its a joke chill out

[@clueless4085]

Hyped to watch the rank 14 grind on twitch, MadChad. Best of luck to you!

[@Serevarno]

I stopped watching a movie to watch this when I got the notification on my phone. Just saying. :)

[@madseasonshow]

You have good taste, I'll give you that!

[@Ganslool]

were you in the cinema?

[@baconcheeseification]

Cool who cares

[@Bollibompa]

@@baconcheeseification The uploader of the video obviously cares you fucking tool.

[@edwardharvey3186]

gotta drop everything when mad season releases a new video :)

[@charlieday7731]

Was a Ret pally for my entire WoW career. From Burning Crusade through Cataclysm.

[@League8Of8Legends]

Fuck, I thought you guys were called Red and not Ret lul Im retarded

[@gordonhewitt7766]

holy shit your content is so good also I appreciate the Barber of Seville choice, great piece.

[@yasha886]

Today I've been practicing to limit my dopamine addiction by not watching youtube vids and doing my work instead. Then Madseason uploaded.

[@Irasdis]

I have just discovered your channel... What a relaxing narration man...

[@SeruraRenge11]

The idea that flying ruined wpvp is bullshit because Outland was filled with pvp objectives in 4 zones that you had to be on the ground to contest so pvp happened all the time. Not to mention, it does nothing to stop the ganking of lowbies since you can't learn flying until max level. By the time you can fly, you're already 70 and probably have pretty decent gear so you're not exactly a ganking target to begin with.

[@dehydratedwat3r]

very true, even in MoP Outland was the place to go WPVP. WPVP was huge on emerald dream in MoP

[@ronniebjuhr1191]

PvP ruined PvP. It was much more fun when it was random and voluntary rather than a game in the game.

[@SeruraRenge11]

​@Salterino Kripperino I did play it, and I remember people fighting over the 4 points in Terrokar because those objectives had a timer so you couldn't just retake them whenever you wanted. Not that there's any point in replying to you since you already hate the expansion. And the decent gear part is more to the point that we were shitty at earning gold back then so you would have heroic gear a lot faster than being able to afford flying. Also "muh duhgens". I'm sure you're waiting for that day of the rope to happen any day now, you fucking f****t, and I hate that YT forces me to censor myself in saying that

[@geovannibonilla1324]

Adding Chrono Trigger music just made this even better, really like your videos, keep it up!

[@MjolnirsPower]

Freakin Hell Anyone else almost completely overwhelmed with the Desire to Play Chrono Trigger due to the music?

[@patrickobrienstr]

And Donkey Kong!

[@iozsaygi]

His voice relaxing me, not playing WoW at all but listening his videos in the background while working. Thanks for the content :)

[@DreyzieArt]

Are you a wrestling fan, MadSeason? Loved that Kevin Nash reference.

[@mwheel4]

Chris Sims Def a solid reference

[@madseasonshow]

Yep late 90s WcW was my childhood

[@SeruraRenge11]

It's a shame what happened to him in the sweltering summer of '92.

[@Ayayron_e3]

@@SeruraRenge11 lol what u know about dat!

[@SeruraRenge11]

@@Ayayron_e3 hey man, it doesn't make him any less of a person for what happened

[@DrPluton]

I started in 2005, but I never got into raiding until TBC. I mostly ran with a guild that did Tier 4 content to gear people up who were going to move onto Tier 5 and up (Karazhan, Gruul's Lair, Magtheridon, and Zul'Aman). I learned how to raid heal and later main tank on my paladin as well as blasting away on my frost mage. Maybe it was how accessible getting into the content was compared to Vanilla, but I loved TBC and count it as my favorite expansion.

[@Nobody-vr5nl]

The only change I care about: Duel wielding shamans.

[@XUndergroundRap]

Nob ody BLOOOODDDDLUUUUSSSTTTT AND DRUMS

[@metalicana5894]

is that better than 2h?

[@TheDankiz]

@@metalicana5894 Yes!

[@metalicana5894]

@@TheDankiz sweeeeeeeeeet

[@gargaduk]

@@metalicana5894 Of course not, both are balanced.

[@RS-chino]

There’s something about your voice bud, it’s great for stuff like this. And your video quality is greatly increasing it’s awesome. Keep it up! You’re obviously in your element.

[@jrod9918]

I really want pre nerf bosses starting with cthun more than anything.

[@adriangar95]

They are going to clean the raid in 20minutes anyway

[@XUndergroundRap]

I thought pre nerf was literally mathematically impossible?

[@jrod9918]

@@XUndergroundRap I mean it cant be mathematically possible and cleared within 20 minutes at the same time so it would be interesting to see. All priest hakkar seemed mathematically impossible back then and it was destroyed in classic

[@blastermaster5039]

1:30 I really can't help but chuckle whenever you mention Moonkin druids, only to show them doing the boomkin dance for being a huge meme build.

[@Jonathan-rh5mc]

What if they released classic Plus and TBC classic at the same time? Make new servers for TBC that you can transfer to and the existing classic servers get classic. You can then choose where you want to go with your character and no servers will completely die. I know there is flaws in this so I am just brainstorming

[@lerchomat]

@Salterino Kripperino wow classic ruined itself the day it got released. Classic sucks tbc is the way to go

[@ArkanSubotic]

i still remember when this channel had 10k subs and everyone was talking about his monotone voice i guess thats what made him so popular

[@anotherround8330]

Are you going to make a top 10 for WOTLK ? That's my favorite expansion.

[@DreadK]

Nice video man

[@Mazxlol]

I hope they release TBC. I loved running heroic 5mans! I just hope it’s still hard... oh and no more world buff nonesense

[@brimstonevalar6053]

If they release like Classic is not gona be hard since patch 2.4.3 everything is nerfed

[@doom8274]

@Salterino Kripperino weak b8

[@wrexelementalshaman8640]

Hey man, thanks for including clips from my video :) By the way, very nice video! Considering Classic success, I'm pretty sure Blizzard will launch TBC....See you in arenas all ;) PS: I did not know the MC thing to get warchief blessing as alliance player haha, that's awesome

[@Klierowski]

Can't wait till tbc, loved classic while exping but wasting my houndreds of hours just becouse im druid and im trash compared to other classes. And i don't to creater another mage/rogue/warrior. I started to hate classic and waiting for end of my sub.

[@shanks6459]

I just walked through the Dark Portal for the first time, can’t wait to explore Outland

[@skat3r430]

How is it

[@douglasgeorge6186]

I’m fine with only the classic wow.

[@konig4626]

Thank you for the calm video again :)) I like it very much! Greetings from germany

[@daspacepope]

"Flasking in ERP" Ah yes, the coveted Flask of Erectile Fortitude, necessary for those long sessions.

[@shinyhero306]

Lol

[@RoliRegenbogen]

You voice dude...so chilled! Great content as well!

[@jordogey5751]

“Milfseason” Yeah that fits

[@Kaemshot]

I've been watching your videos for a year or so and I just realised I wasn't even subscribed to you. Now I am.

[@Rave.-]

On the point of all the raids being out at launch: It would be an absolute disaster of a mistake for Blizz to do that this time around for a re-release. They would have to be imbeciles not to change this. Don't expect it to stay that way.

[@Rave.-]

@Brian I am definitely hoping they listen to fan feedback since the "no-changes" group have definitely faded to the back of the group since Classic launch. There's some content creators that have laid out extremely compelling middle ground.

[@MrGW2fanboy]

Why can't they just make new raids and dungeons and attunements for tbc re release, same lore and themes but just different content

[@CollectiveDefence]

David Oze Then it won’t be tbc anymore? Beside, after playing WC 3 Reforged i’d prefer them not to make any big changes.

[@MrGW2fanboy]

@@CollectiveDefence Oh don't get me wrong I would never trust them to make a good new game or content for TBC, those days of good dev are long gone. The only reason I mentioned it is because I dont really see another way in fixing the problem of guilds getting attuned and clearing everything within the first week, everyone knows all the fights and there are plenty of resources for everything - it'll be just as easy as classic which will be a shame.

[@Rave.-]

@@MrGW2fanboy not at all.... you just time gate SSC and TK. Yes, people will get attuned quickly like they did in classic. Thats fine. We want to play this game and be good at it. You do this: 1) take a middle ground between nerfed content and the mathematically impossible pre-nerfed content. 2) time gate each tier like Classic. How does completely changing the game even remotely solve an issue that isn't even really an issue, more a consequence of game knowledge?

[@bakirski5451]

I love this guy. No bullshit, no drama, just a chill dude making good videos Keep up the good work !

[@Cootz51]

Sorry Mad, but TBC raids are going to be steamrolled through just as fast as Classic by the tryhard guilds.

[@TheAssirra]

I am not 100% sure. I am not talking about skill but TBC had stupid heroic dungeon damage. You can be really good but that won't prevent your tank from getting 1 shot cause he had no gear. And since heroics are required for the chain i think it will take a bit longer.

[@Cootz51]

@@TheAssirra It will be a bit harder and take longer for your average casual, but I'm talking about the top tier guilds who will practice on private servers before this even launches. Same headlines in news saying raids cleared within a day or two of launch.

[@JeffreydeKogel]

That R. Kelly reference almost made me spit out my coffee. Excellent video!

[@Karina-winsmore]

"Flying ruined world pvp" good riddance i say. World pvp is basically griefing.

[@Karina-winsmore]

Cringe. Pvp is fun when both particiapants are willing and able to pvp. Open world pvp is 95% ganks and high level griefing and torturing low level. There is no "honor" or skill involved.

[@sanarity9322]

Great video MadSeasonShow! Keep it up and stay safe. :)

[@EvoHoax]

I paused Mia malkova for this

[@daveyturu]

She plays WoW too, don't worry about it

[@vaendryl]

" I guess this is just my way of dealing with the excitement", he said with the same tone one would use to read the EULA text that always used to pop up when you started wow.

[@invictus5433]

eating breakfast on a sunny morning --> good madseason uploaded new video --> better its about tbc --> perfection

[@hagen1261]

Your content is awesome as always ♥

[@thunderbirds9001]

Just recently got back into WoW after a long time away and by god am I loving this channel, plus the wrestling references make me a happy mark

[@Bobwasthere78]

Just want say love your intro it feel nostalgic everything I hear it

[@hamelconsultancyllc]

I really hope they have the original overpowered raids to start with - honestly after seeing how easy Classic stuff was, it might be doable for the player-base this time around - then they can release the easier ones for phase 2 or 3 or something.

[@yupyip5922]

Never really played wow but enjoy watching your content, i hope you make more.

[@HootMaRoot]

All I remember from back then being in a very average guild was we needed to raid kara before we started farming heroic dungeons with ease. I just hope if and when they do re-release bc they keep the og difficulty of heroics

[@PsyrenXY]

3:20 "Since the dawn of time, man has dreamed of breaking free from his graviational prison, and taking to the skies..." **R. Kelly clip** "...and apparently peeing on people." MS, your deadpan delivery will always keep me coming back to these videos

[@gororx5476]

man, you make the best wow videos. everyone MUST be watching your channel and fuckin LEARN.

[@BlackBirds93]

You're blueballing me with all this awesome content

[@rontorrisi4529]

mad season with another legit video.

[@LG-ro5le]

I just re subbed for tbc and just wanted a quick list of things that have changed, not a 19 minute video

[@elbatsbak]

2:05 The sneaky "Milfseason" blood elf :'D

[@EnderGoku9001]

Hot

[@chainsawapple]

Seen a lot of wow content on KZbin. As of right now this my favorite video!

[@bernardoreyes4770]

I love the fact that you used the PPF cover

[@alexanderblohme5044]

I hope that classic NEVER gets overwritten by this exp !

[@Nostriales]

3:26 I did not see that coming, literally laughed out loud

[@Fathoms09]

Your videos help with my anxiety.

[@j.a.1785]

Great content as always.

[@sketchhannen]

MadSeason, I love your videos, be it your dedication to getting the facts right, or your R Kelly jokes, you’ll always be one of my favorite wow content creators

[@Roastanus]

was waiting for this one

[@atraxian5881]

Burning Crusade was my point of entrance in WoW on a private server (I was in my first year of high-school student at the time, so no money for retail). Brings back soooo many rose-tinted memories of raiding with my guild. On the other hand... Trying to do daily quests with a restoration druid was a pain without dual talent specialization (Thank you WotlK).

[@nixn6412]

I wasn’t prepared for this to drop.....how wonderfully unexpected

[@tripled2121]

Is the music in the background from Never Been Part II on Wiz's Taylor Allderdice. Didn't expect to hear that on your vid MadSeason! My fav mixtape... respect!

[@vinchinzo594]

You have a really cool voice. Great narration.

[@biglogan6142]

I haven't played wow in years ... I'm not super bothered about the game either way ... but I basically stay tuned into the whole world because I just like chilling out and listening to you talk about the game ... that magic liquid velvet voice ... keep up the great work man

[@sebastienvivas9319]

As always, love the music

[@alfieeast6231]

I played BC when I was young and didn't have the patience/time to get higher than 38~ or so. I'd love to be able to get a second chance to reach the Outland with BC Classic :D

[@Layerlol]

I can't wait for Classic BC! Never played it but looks very fun

[@msh0041zz]

Digging the "secret of the forest" chrono trigger music!

[@Toefoo100]

I really hope they go for a classic + move. The devs supposely had a few move raids they were working on for vanailla but needed to push out BC sooner, so it would be really cool to see some unique content that the current retail never even had and was just on the drawing boards

[@SkeletonBill]

11:30 I've been to multiple speedrun conventions and you are absolutely correct

[@blundy1]

I haven't bit the bullet back into WoW Classic yet. The Burning Crusade would definitely push me over the edge back into it.

[@leonst.7471]

My Dad and by proxy me joined a expansion later during the northend campaign but lvling in TBC was pretty nice