Madsen M50: From the Korean War to Star Trek

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During World War Two, Madsen (DISA) manufactured a licensed copy of the Finnish Suomi (see: • Danish M1941 Suomi SMG ). When the war ended, they wanted to replace this with a more modern, inexpensive design of their own. The result was the Model 1946 Madsen, a creative clamshell design of stamped parts. It is a very simple blowback, open-bolt 9x19mm SMG that perfectly fit the post-war era. The M46 version was sold to a few countries, and after some continued development and refinement the M50 version was demonstrated to a public audience in November 1950. This pattern was even simpler than before, and proved a popular gun for many unaligned countries in Central and South America and Southeast Asia - so much so that it remained in production until the 1980s. A bunch were imported into the US in the 1950s and 1960s, and they found a home in the movie industry, where they were often used in fantasy/sci-fi films to avoid having guns that would be recognized by American movie audiences.
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@TheWtfnonamez
@TheWtfnonamez 14 күн бұрын
That might be the coolest weapon disassembly I've ever seen.
@M65V19
@M65V19 14 күн бұрын
Just like plastic 6mm bb gun.
@fjallaxd7355
@fjallaxd7355 14 күн бұрын
Yeah it's really cool.
@rhemorigher
@rhemorigher 14 күн бұрын
I was watching and thinking "I'm sure it's perfectly good, but I can't see how anyone would be excited to have one of these over a competitor. How would you sell this to someone?" And then he unscrewed the nut. Yep, that'd do it.
@VeraTR909
@VeraTR909 14 күн бұрын
@@rhemorigher Yea you can just imagine some dignitaries peering over the sales persons table going "...oooooh" upon that reveal while nodding their heads
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy 14 күн бұрын
The incredible thing is that it's almost as simple as a Sten gun, but it comes with a loading tool and spare parts as well.
@Eric-vs2he
@Eric-vs2he 14 күн бұрын
Madsen M50 🤝 Sterling SMG Being used by space armies
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 14 күн бұрын
AS a dane(well, Jutland) Sterling Anyday!
@thekraken1173
@thekraken1173 14 күн бұрын
⁠@@dallesamllhals9161 As a person with symmetry obsession, I would take Madsen anyday
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 14 күн бұрын
@@thekraken1173 Well, as a Royal Life Guards* (Denmark) I've ever only tried the m/45 Carl Gustav. *1998-2007
@skylongskylong1982
@skylongskylong1982 14 күн бұрын
@@dallesamllhals9161The only sterling’s smg I really liked were the gold plated version ordered by a Middle East Leader in the seventies. They had a secured cage containing them at their Dagenham factory U.K. waiting for shipping. I presume were gold plated , and not made fully out of gold.
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 13 күн бұрын
@@skylongskylong1982 sry' I don't like gold........plated or whatever! Do You like Dane Law?
@josho5108
@josho5108 14 күн бұрын
1950-2250 is an impressive service life
@numazuchi
@numazuchi 14 күн бұрын
For anyone wondering: Star Trek (TOS) Season 2, Episode 25 "Bread and Circuses"
@PatrickLink
@PatrickLink 14 күн бұрын
At the end of the episodes two guards were pumping Kirk and Spock's cell with two of these while they were being beamed up.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for this, I could not remember which episode had the Madsen. I had it conflated with the episode about Nazism...
@numazuchi
@numazuchi 14 күн бұрын
@@williestyle35 They use MP40s and P38s in "Patterns of Force"
@MrBullethead63
@MrBullethead63 14 күн бұрын
I always wondered what subgun they were using in that episode!
@Ms95670
@Ms95670 14 күн бұрын
don't forget one of the "Planet of the Ape" movies "Battle For" (I think). The original. I remember as a kid wondering why the Ape had a Roman machine gun.
@DrSabot-A
@DrSabot-A 14 күн бұрын
The Madsen M50's export success is honestly greatly underrated. They sold thousands all over the world, one in particular is to Indonesia. They pretty much equipped every single armed force in the country, from the army to the police to the armed women's battalion. Madsen even printed their manuals in Indonesian, Malaysian and Thai. Funny thing, i remember visiting a museum and they used Ian's video of the M50 from so long ago as their demo reel.
@lamia197
@lamia197 14 күн бұрын
When I was in the Korean military, on the Korean War anniversary. One of the Korean veterans was telling us a story. One of the friends he made was from Thailand. He told me his friend had a gun that opened up like a book and always had a small stick about the length of a pencil. I think I now know what the gun is and what the stick was used for. lol
@J.j.C-bb9nb
@J.j.C-bb9nb 14 күн бұрын
Neat!
@bglenn2222
@bglenn2222 14 күн бұрын
What was the stick used for?
@lamia197
@lamia197 14 күн бұрын
@@bglenn2222 Stick it between the trigger guard and the safety thing. Or that is my theory. lol
@surlyogre1476
@surlyogre1476 14 күн бұрын
@@bglenn2222 The magazine reloader?
@richieb7692
@richieb7692 14 күн бұрын
​@@bglenn2222 put the stick in the charging handle slot so it doesn't fire when you release the bolt from the grip safety.
@alexdemoya2119
@alexdemoya2119 14 күн бұрын
These are the voyages of the forgotten weapons. To seek out new (old) firearms lost to time.
@robgoodsight6216
@robgoodsight6216 14 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@anaxis
@anaxis 14 күн бұрын
to seek out left-handed designs and new operating systems...
@willflint8443
@willflint8443 14 күн бұрын
Make it so.
@CMDRSweeper
@CMDRSweeper 14 күн бұрын
And "Soon to be forgotten weapons" if we are to take his episode on the FS2000 for an example.
@ragingjaguarknight86
@ragingjaguarknight86 14 күн бұрын
"To boldly go where no gun has gone before!"
@DavidtheNorseman
@DavidtheNorseman 14 күн бұрын
My thought was, "Wow, if you needed a definitive example of 'Not over-engineered' this would be it...sort of like the Goldilocks thing...not too complicated, not too cheaply made...just right...". Thanks again, Ian, for educating us 🙂
@TheZinmo
@TheZinmo 14 күн бұрын
Your thoughts were my thoughts.😀
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 13 күн бұрын
Danish pragmatism. Many of the Danish design furniture items, from the same era, follow the same approach. Clean lines, but not outright minimalistic. Avoid complicated production steps, and hide what needs to be somewhat advanced out of view. Choose good, but not exotic, materials. Give it a nice, but not fragile, finish. This has lead to some timeless classics that are still in use today. My TV stand is one of them. It was originally a narrow coffee table with a magazine shelf. It was made in 1954.
@trooperdgb9722
@trooperdgb9722 13 күн бұрын
Agree wholeheartedly! The inclusion of the mag loader and spares inside the "clamshell" is even more "elegant". Great presentation, fascinating gun!
@Darth-Nihilus1
@Darth-Nihilus1 14 күн бұрын
No wonder why it could run 20k rounds without problems, this gun is the definition of” keep it simple, stupid” and I love it
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 14 күн бұрын
So: Simple = Stupid? And you're from? (Klaphat!)
@siggimund
@siggimund 14 күн бұрын
@@dallesamllhals9161 It's a well known saying/design principle also often used in software engineering called the "KISS principle" (Keep It Simple, Stupid) Notice the comma. This is the (rather harsh) professor/teacher addressing the student (the "stupid"), (Så æd lige din klaphat, brormand. Edit: Eller bedre endnu, tag den med når vi tæsker svensken i parken 5. juni i en såkaldt "friendly" 😁)
@johanmetreus1268
@johanmetreus1268 14 күн бұрын
@@dallesamllhals9161 it ain't stupid if it works
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 13 күн бұрын
@@dallesamllhals9161 Before you call people klaphat you should probably check your English skills. The KISS principle is well known. All OP forgot was the obligatory comma: "Keep it simple, stupid!". As in, calling someone stupid for not keeping it simple. (Opfør dig ordenligt online Dalle-dreng).
@Darth-Nihilus1
@Darth-Nihilus1 13 күн бұрын
@@siggimund I forgot the comma 🙃 thank you for pointing that out 😉
@tomparatube6506
@tomparatube6506 14 күн бұрын
Never saw a simpler fieldstrip. A couple unscrewing turns, one lift and u see all the innards. Amazing simple. Bravo Madsen and Denmark!
@mrbyamile6973
@mrbyamile6973 13 күн бұрын
Amazingly simple, but that magazine lever safety would have been the first thing to go if I was issued this thing.
@tomparatube6506
@tomparatube6506 13 күн бұрын
@@mrbyamile6973 That's arguable, but redesigning that protruding safety w something of equal functionality and manufacturing cost would be hard.
@mrbyamile6973
@mrbyamile6973 13 күн бұрын
@tomparatube6506 I agree, this thing was obviously made with simplicity and cost cutting in mind. I just think any defensive weapon should be capable of being fired one handed. If you were injured in battle it would be nice to fire it right or left handed and not require both. That being said, I would love to own that thing. Great piece of history and a blast to shoot.
@tomparatube6506
@tomparatube6506 13 күн бұрын
@@mrbyamile6973 "... injured in battle... not require both": Never thought of that. Excellent point ! 👍👍👍
@Arthurzeiro
@Arthurzeiro 14 күн бұрын
I've seen suitcase guns, but this is the first gun suitcase, cool design.
@mkupkatx
@mkupkatx 13 күн бұрын
Ian, Great video. It brougback memories. I was fortunate as an American soldier with a Danish mother to attend the Danish JaegerKorps Patrol course in 1986. We were given Madsens the first week for the Swim test which consisted of a full flip from the 5m platform entering the water face first arms extended hold the Madsen in front with elbows locked, then swimming 500m breast stroke with the Madsen slung over our backs. We also had rubber stock padding instead of leather, which was used for pushing down electric fences when training in the farmland of northern Jutland.
@billjamison2877
@billjamison2877 14 күн бұрын
That has got to be the simplest gun to clean and disassemble ever made!
@kyuzotatsuya9641
@kyuzotatsuya9641 14 күн бұрын
I do love engineering solutions like this - cheap, simple and effective
@daveh7720
@daveh7720 14 күн бұрын
That's why I enjoy guns in general. They've been around long enough that the technology isn't just mature, it's gone through centuries of continuous improvement. Great engineering isn't just about what you can put in, it's also about what you can leave out and still get the job done.
@brooxeyyy
@brooxeyyy 14 күн бұрын
This thing looks like someone just scaled up a LEGO figure gun
@G-Mastah-Fash
@G-Mastah-Fash 14 күн бұрын
LEGO is a danish company so you might be onto something here.
@kimmikkelsen9601
@kimmikkelsen9601 14 күн бұрын
And just like Lego... it just works... hi hi
@kbjerke
@kbjerke 14 күн бұрын
LEGO scaled *down* the Madsen!
@marcondespaulo
@marcondespaulo 14 күн бұрын
One my gijoe figures had one of these. I was surprised by the manufacturing simplicity. A properly equipped shop could made this by the hundreds each day.
@ohredhk
@ohredhk 14 күн бұрын
The clamp shell design was common with toys made with sheet metals in the 50's
@TheMajorActual
@TheMajorActual 14 күн бұрын
I used to know a prop-guy in Hollywood who had five Madsen's (in additional to an astounding number of other Class 3 weapons). I'm sure he's long-passed by now, but opening his secure rooms were like opening the Sacred Vaults....
@amerikhan8507
@amerikhan8507 14 күн бұрын
Probably the same ones used in Which Way to the Front, Star Trek, and the Godfather.
@TheMajorActual
@TheMajorActual 14 күн бұрын
@@amerikhan8507 He may have done something in The Godfather, but the others were well before his time. I know he provided some of the guns for _Wanted: Dead or Alive (1986),_ but most of his films were strictly B-grade or lower. He kept himself solvent, though, by training tactical security teams for nuclear power plants.
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy 14 күн бұрын
@@TheMajorActual "Be very, very careful what you shoot"
@DiggingForFacts
@DiggingForFacts 13 күн бұрын
@@TheMajorActual "Most things in here don't react too well to bullets"
@user-zi1ev2xj6c
@user-zi1ev2xj6c 14 күн бұрын
Two Madsen M50s are used in The Godfather by Corleone hitmen to kill Philip Tattaglia and a prostitute in bed. There's a few seconds in the film of close-up when they prep the Madsens before the hit.
@cykelgert1450
@cykelgert1450 14 күн бұрын
Ohh yeah, I remember now. Classic scene in a classic movie :-)
@fraiday7292
@fraiday7292 14 күн бұрын
Also in Part II towards the beginning when the attempted hitmen pump bullets into Michael and Kay's bedroom. You see Rocco pick one up.
@bbqsauce8854
@bbqsauce8854 14 күн бұрын
That’s where I remember it from too 👍🏻
@shable1436
@shable1436 14 күн бұрын
Now are y'all just googling this by now now, because I've read several comments on which shows and movies used them, and using Google is cheating to look then 😂post
@williammontroy9024
@williammontroy9024 14 күн бұрын
Lol damnit I thought I was gonna be all cool and advanced and say this !!! You jerk ! LMAO 🤣 well played sir
@mikehipperson
@mikehipperson 14 күн бұрын
What a wonderfully simple and effective design. It makes the STEN look positively prehistoric!
@Perfusionist01
@Perfusionist01 14 күн бұрын
I am of an age that I remember seeing a lot of Madsens being used in movies or on TV. The movie "Ice Station Zebra" used Madsens to arm the Russian paratroopers, and Darren McGavin even carried a double Madsen (two fastened together side-by-side) in 1970s "The Challenge".
@orangelion03
@orangelion03 14 күн бұрын
"The Challenge"! I'd forgotten that one!
@jon9021
@jon9021 14 күн бұрын
Yes!
@devjaxvid
@devjaxvid 13 күн бұрын
You beat me to it! Was going to mention the dual Madsens. One with ball, one with shot shells.According to the movie. I doubt even if they had 9mm shot shells they would be worth a damn in a Jungle.
@daleupthegrove6396
@daleupthegrove6396 11 күн бұрын
The Madsen appears briefly in the opening scene of the 1967 film 'Tobruk.' Its shown on the handlebars of French motorcycle troops.
@patrikhjorth3291
@patrikhjorth3291 14 күн бұрын
I'm genuinely impressed by this gun. Simple, no-nonsense, reliable. The video doesn't say anything about accuracy, but it looks like it would be about as accurate as any other similar weapon = enough to serve its purpose.
@shable1436
@shable1436 14 күн бұрын
I saw that feed ramp and was like oh potential jammer
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 13 күн бұрын
@@shable1436 Nope, they run forever on standard 9mm FMJ Parabellum. And the repeatability of the barrel nut is within the expected precision of standard loads.
@jeromethiel4323
@jeromethiel4323 13 күн бұрын
You don't buy these for accuracy, you buy them because they are cheap, and poorly trained troops can maintain them, use them, and occasionally hit the target. That and simple means cheap to maintain usually. Heck, the original 1911 was loose as hell, and it was made that way intentionally, to reduce the chance of dirt "gumming up the action." I own two GI 1911's, and they rattle when you shake them. Never FTF or FTE, though. Accuracy isn't great, but it's a sidearm. You want accuracy, use the rifle. That's what it's there for.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 13 күн бұрын
@@jeromethiel4323 In the Danish army these were used by motor cycle scouts, CQC assault squads, the Jægers, etc. Those aren't "poorly trained troops" by any stretch of the imagination. The M50 will hit a torso target at 75m all day every day. And yes, it's very easy to do singles with - the slow rate of fire was deliberate.
@davefellhoelter1343
@davefellhoelter1343 13 күн бұрын
About a "red ryder" but cheaper to make?
@Vicky-lv6hg
@Vicky-lv6hg 14 күн бұрын
The Omega Man gun with Charlton Heston ! 👌🏻.
@orangelion03
@orangelion03 14 күн бұрын
Chuck used a S&W Model 76 in Omega Man, but there was a M50 in his armory.
@cyrusfreeman9972
@cyrusfreeman9972 14 күн бұрын
I thought that was a Swedish K/S&W... Now I need to go watch it again.
@tommyt8998
@tommyt8998 14 күн бұрын
Come out, Morgan!
@lakrids-pibe
@lakrids-pibe 14 күн бұрын
The Omega Man gun was a swedish kulsprutepistol m/45 from Smith & Wesson. It has a lot in common with the danish Madsen, I think. Same spartan 50s stamped metal design philosophy.
@judsongaiden9878
@judsongaiden9878 14 күн бұрын
@@cyrusfreeman9972 The Swedish K was the design inspiration for the S&W M76, so you're not far off.
@rong1924
@rong1924 14 күн бұрын
Ian should do an episode on "The Guns of Star Trek" There's more than you'd think.
@craighansen7594
@craighansen7594 14 күн бұрын
I do remember Capt Kirk having a 1911 in one episode.
@daviddegeorge2667
@daviddegeorge2667 14 күн бұрын
Would think that would be more Royal Armouries.
@BleedingUranium
@BleedingUranium 13 күн бұрын
Well, I did just recently add quite a bit of missing stuff and more detail to the TOS IMFDB page (first two seasons, S3 soon). :P
@DarkestVampire92
@DarkestVampire92 12 күн бұрын
I would love if he were to do an episode where he goes over the many iterations of the phasers over the years. Type 1, Type 2 and Type 3 phasers- Aka subcompact, pistol, and rifle.
@thunder2434
@thunder2434 14 күн бұрын
I've seen a sheetmetal toy version of this gun and thought the clamshell was just how the toy worked. I never realized it was based on a real gun design. Being able to open like that sure must be handy when cleaning the gun. :)
@rotwang2000
@rotwang2000 14 күн бұрын
The Madsen is the weapon of choice for Villain Henchmen or SF shows that need an SMG that looks properly out of this world.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 14 күн бұрын
To me it screams 'Drug Cartel' or 'Mercenary'.
@Ivan-gr8ut
@Ivan-gr8ut 14 күн бұрын
Fun fact; The Madsen nearly beat the Sterling in the UK SMG trail to replace the STEN and could have ended up being one of the most famous SMG ever.
@johan8969
@johan8969 14 күн бұрын
Same thing happened with the Pedersen vs Garand trial. Just the story of Danish weapon designs. Close but no cigar.
@vincentmueller3717
@vincentmueller3717 14 күн бұрын
It's strange to me that it's taken all these years to make a video on the M50, as it was such an integral part of my childhood. Madsens were on Star Trek, most Planet of the Apes, every other Mission: Impossible (companion piece to the Astra 400/600), and who could forget Jill St.John rocking one while in heels and a bikini in Diamonds Are Forever....sorry, brainfog for a second there. Madsens were to the 60's what Uzi's were to the 70's, and MP5's to the 80's. I just assumed that it was in the catalog from years ago, and I'll get to it. Thanks for the coverage.
@aidanfarnan4683
@aidanfarnan4683 14 күн бұрын
The magazine tool and spare parts stored in the pistol grip is so very, very cool.
@bglenn2222
@bglenn2222 14 күн бұрын
'Simplicity is the sign of truth' is a statement one of my engineering mentors used to say. This weapon is the embodiment of that statement.
@stalhandske9649
@stalhandske9649 10 күн бұрын
Occam's Razor at work.
@nickwilkinson7728
@nickwilkinson7728 14 күн бұрын
Simple ,well designed, I like the grip safety, especially when the weapon is slung around other gear.👍
@KnockinOnYourDoor
@KnockinOnYourDoor 14 күн бұрын
Y'all are familiar with the c96 pistol in star wars .. now get ready for the madsen in startrek. The more you know.
@Za_Fill_1_1
@Za_Fill_1_1 14 күн бұрын
In The new star trak?
@DarkestVampire92
@DarkestVampire92 12 күн бұрын
The Vector CP1 is another one of those guns that just shows up everywhere because it looks spacy and futuristic... and well, the Calico series of weapons. Calicos are actually in Star Trek First Contact, for instance.
@KickyFut
@KickyFut 14 күн бұрын
Thank you *so much* for that re-assembly! It usually irks my ADD when you take a gun completely apart, then just leave it there. In my head canon, you just leave the parts there on the table, put on your sunglasses, and walk out the door... The Weapons Forgotten.😅
@no48bus
@no48bus 14 күн бұрын
Diamonds are for ever. I remember looking the guns in the film as a child
@dansharpe2364
@dansharpe2364 14 күн бұрын
Danish Design. Even when done to manufacture cheaply it's still clever, simple and functional
@Swindle1984
@Swindle1984 14 күн бұрын
This thing is incredibly simple and incredibly clever. If they had a more functional stock and a stripper clip guide like the Czech Vz24 series, it'd be the perfect guerrilla gun: cheap to mass produce, easy to maintain, and extremely user friendly.
@xray86delta
@xray86delta 14 күн бұрын
😂 I've been fascinated by the Madson Model 50 ever since the Star Trek episode "Bread and Circuses". Once again, Ian, you nailed it!
@JohnHughesChampigny
@JohnHughesChampigny 14 күн бұрын
For me it was running across it in "small arms of the world". After having seen pages of stuff with wood furniture or overly complex trigger mechanisms, weird takedown instructions I was like: "This is the one that does it right". Just before I saw it I'd visited Ford's plant in Dagenham and I could just imagine the press I'd seen stamping out door panels for a Ford Cortina stamping out multiple clamshell halves for the M50.
@Rex1987
@Rex1987 13 күн бұрын
not Madson, but Madsen :P
@excrubulent
@excrubulent 14 күн бұрын
20,000 rounds in 2 hrs at a rof of 550 rpm means the gun spent ~30% of that 2hrs with the trigger held down in full-auto. That is impressive. Also with 32rd mags that's 625 mags.
@cleidsonaraujopeixoto163
@cleidsonaraujopeixoto163 14 күн бұрын
Before the invasion of Denmark, what the Brazilian Army says is that one of our diplomats took away a bunch of full blueprints away from german hands, including the one for this subgun. In retribution (recognition), Madsen autorized us to make It in .45 ACP - the INA subgun Ian mentions. In common ball .45 ACP, the INAs behaved terribly, giving the gun the nickname of INA - Isto Não Atira (This don't shoot). Our forces started to issue hotter cartridges for the INAs and the problem went away.
@alexdemoya2119
@alexdemoya2119 14 күн бұрын
Very cool. And good on the diplomat. Small english tip: "Retribution" has a negative connotation, its like revenge. "In recognition" would make more sense.
@cleidsonaraujopeixoto163
@cleidsonaraujopeixoto163 14 күн бұрын
@@alexdemoya2119 Got It! TKS!
@greycatturtle7132
@greycatturtle7132 14 күн бұрын
Oh my thats a great history
@johanmetreus1268
@johanmetreus1268 14 күн бұрын
denmark was invaded in 1940
@mauropellegrini8085
@mauropellegrini8085 14 күн бұрын
The story is true, but the person was not a diplomat. It was a Brazilian army officer by the name of Plinio Paes Barreto Cardoso. In 1949, as a retired general, he would become the CEO of INA. @cleidsonaraujopeixoto163 and others reading portuguese, can find this story on the best article I am yet to read on extinct Brazilian arms factories, "Antigas fabricas de armas no Brasil - Rev. 2", available on line. Just Google the title.
@maximthemagnificent
@maximthemagnificent 14 күн бұрын
Always admired this design's elegance.
@stephenandersen4625
@stephenandersen4625 10 күн бұрын
As someone of Danish descent, I am proud that we took our place in cheap, stamped-steel, manufacture! 🇩🇰
@MikkelL03
@MikkelL03 14 күн бұрын
Hi Ian. You did a pretty decent job at saying "Madsen" like we do in Denmark. Not perfect, but very good for someone not speaking danish.
@CheeseDanish85
@CheeseDanish85 13 күн бұрын
Yeah now he just needs to learn to swallow syllables faster!
@java230
@java230 14 күн бұрын
I love how it's so simple, but well thought out.
@kenibnanak5554
@kenibnanak5554 14 күн бұрын
I saw Palace police guards carrying these in front of the palace in Venezuela back in the 60s. I am of the opinion it is an underrated gun that could probably find buyers today if they made them again.
@gagemason3865
@gagemason3865 14 күн бұрын
Add some screws and a polymer body it and would most definitely be a signature Kel-Tec design
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 14 күн бұрын
It's cool to hear the 'D' drop in and out of Ian's pronunciation of 'Madsen'. It shows that he's a regular guy and not a pure academic. 😎
@prdubi
@prdubi 14 күн бұрын
I've seen this in the inventory of several NFA dealers from the 80s to 2000s at the SOF conventions. They stayed cheap for a long time as everyone recognized the MP40, Stens, and Thompsons. Then when all of those sold, the only ones left were the M11s, Reislings, and Madsens. Then when M11s became popular due to the Slow-fire fad and then Lage, the only ones left was the Reisllings, Madsens and then the Stens became popular again due to tube registered tubed receivers getting released and people building those into Stens. Then into 2000s, the Reisslings and Madsens were disappearing. Now today, all I am seeing from the last of my NFA dealers in Oregon are M11s, M2 Carbines, and a smattering of WWI belt-feds. In the end, Ian is right, they don't get much love. And people feel very underwhelmed with it after firing it because of its low rate of fire. But gosh darn it, they are super cool to shoot in my opinion and great for beginners.
@kimhdfxsts
@kimhdfxsts 11 күн бұрын
I carried the M50 in the early 90's serving as a Sergent in the Danish army. It was called the Cykel pumpe "bicycle pump " The rate of fire dramatically increases when you tighten up the return spring. "I've heard "😁
@hansjrgenfrederiksen4065
@hansjrgenfrederiksen4065 11 күн бұрын
Hvor brugte man Madsen i start 90 erne ? Spørger af ren nysgerrighed , kan umiddelbart kun huske M44 og M49 fra hæren , Hjv dengang.
@kimhdfxsts
@kimhdfxsts 11 күн бұрын
@@hansjrgenfrederiksen4065 Hovedsageligt blev de udleveret til panser personl, men også til befalingsmænd .
@samuel-JF1981
@samuel-JF1981 14 күн бұрын
Iam, take a look about I.N.A. (Indústria Nacional de Armas), a Brazilian guns manufacture and its relationship with the Madsen SMG... It's a very interesting history! Basicaly, a brazilian army officer called Plínio Cardoso was at the factory when the germans invaded the country, so the company handed the designs over to Plínio, who would return to Brazil and keep the designs safely away from Europe. After the end of the war, the Brazilian officer returned to Denmark to return the designs, which began manufacturing the Madsen M-46 submachine gun soon after. In recognition of his work, the company granted him the rights to manufacture the weapon in Brazil. It was build in 45acp in Brazil, but didn't works great in this caliber... So, much later (in 1983) IMBEL (Brazilian FAL manufacturer) started to convert the old guns to original caliber, 9mmP.
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 14 күн бұрын
One of my alltime favorite subguns since I first saw it in my high school daze - early 1970s, in W.E.B. Smith's book "Small Arms of the World". Seen it in several movies over the years.
@michaelb6729
@michaelb6729 14 күн бұрын
The Omega Man gun with Charlton Heston ! 👌🏻
@Limpopo
@Limpopo 14 күн бұрын
That one is actually a Smith & Wesson 76.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 14 күн бұрын
​@@Limpopo yep. Which was meant to copy the Madsen
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 14 күн бұрын
​@@williestyle35the Swedish m/45, not the Danish Madsen.
@Randomly_Browsing
@Randomly_Browsing 14 күн бұрын
​@@williestyle35 that's an entirely a different gun
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts
@JohnMinehan-lx9ts 14 күн бұрын
That was a S&W licensed version of a Karl Gustav (The "Swedish K') . . . .
@user-kr7yh8vw9m
@user-kr7yh8vw9m 14 күн бұрын
This might be one of the best forgotten weapons i've ever seen. The Madsen M50 doesn't get as much recognition as many other smgs and i'm glad you made a video as an appreciation for this exotic firearm.
@MakCurrel
@MakCurrel 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for the pronunciation. With love from Denmark.
@matthewarkell3029
@matthewarkell3029 14 күн бұрын
This gun is seriously cool genuinely impressed and surprised this didnt get more sales really.
@suddenwall
@suddenwall 14 күн бұрын
So thats why its in The Godfather! Thanks for explaining the prop house history Ian
@Sd1v8v
@Sd1v8v 14 күн бұрын
They were also used in the Vietnam war by south Vietnam and us special forces
@orangelion03
@orangelion03 14 күн бұрын
The Wiki entry for the M50 lists all of its movie and television appearances (plus INA). First time I saw the Madsen was probably Ice Station Zebra...used by Rooskies paratroopers. My brother and I made wooden copies of the M50, SW 76 (Omega Man), and Sterling (When 8 Bells Toll). Furring strip, closet rods, and curtain rods =)
@regstrup
@regstrup 12 күн бұрын
I’m from Denmark and remember as a child seeing the Danish Police sometimes armed with the M50. The funny part is, that the Police not only had the M50 but also the US M-1 Carbine until they were both replaced with the H&K MP-5.
@arjen7024
@arjen7024 14 күн бұрын
that clamshell design is brilliant, nobody would ever want this on any weapon that requires marksmanship, but for an SMG it's just right
@j.e.pedersen9615
@j.e.pedersen9615 14 күн бұрын
No bullshit functional. Safe or Full Auto. Danish Design for the win
@ulfosterberg9116
@ulfosterberg9116 2 күн бұрын
It was the same with the Swedish m45. The slow cyceling made it easy to shoot singles. But tactically one shoot groups of three.
@jeffturnbull9661
@jeffturnbull9661 14 күн бұрын
I remember an (4th season) episode of The Man From UNCLE in which Illya uses an M50 to escape some bad guys, but he shoots it the "cool way", his left hand supporting the firearm by holding the shoulder strap just above the magazine, but in now way depressing the safety, movie magic? the gun shot fine
@TheZinmo
@TheZinmo 14 күн бұрын
A great example of great engineering.
@amerikhan8507
@amerikhan8507 14 күн бұрын
Was also in the Jerry Lewis classic "Which Way to The Front?". I had seen the film as a kid and had always wondered what kind of SMG it was.
@Kneon_Knight
@Kneon_Knight 14 күн бұрын
I have never seen any firearm that I would consider idiot proof, but this little honey comes within a cat's whisker of being so.
@mace8873
@mace8873 13 күн бұрын
Well, you know what they say - "Nothing is fool proof to a sufficiently talented fool", but I'd say you'd have to be somewhat of a Grade A world champion idiot to screw up with this one. I mean _utterly_ moronic, as in too-damn-thick-to-stand-upright-and-breathe-at-the-same-time kind of stupid...
@MUCKLEECH
@MUCKLEECH 14 күн бұрын
Still one of the best (if not, the best) gun channels on YT. Never change a thing sir
@mglisty
@mglisty 8 күн бұрын
amazingly easy to disassemble. Beautifully engineered.
@robviousobviously5757
@robviousobviously5757 14 күн бұрын
007 Bond gun... appreciated along with the Swedish K, S&W 76 & MAC series...
@Dinstyvmorsa8539
@Dinstyvmorsa8539 14 күн бұрын
Your old video on this smg was where I first was made aware of its existance. Love the design. Nice to see you made an updated video!
@fecklesstech929
@fecklesstech929 9 күн бұрын
Whenever I hear the term "machine pistol", the Madsen 1950 instantly comes to mind.
@AkioHabana
@AkioHabana 14 күн бұрын
Oddly enough an actor by the name of Virginia Madsen played in Star Trek Voyager
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 14 күн бұрын
Yep. The Madsen connection continues...
@jwc00789
@jwc00789 14 күн бұрын
And she is gorgeous!!!
@thekraken1173
@thekraken1173 14 күн бұрын
It is all part of the plan
@bakkskive
@bakkskive 14 күн бұрын
The barrel nut is actually quite smart. It has a 45 degree taper at the bottom of the threads to squeeze the receiver halfs together, and the fingers at the end squeeze the barrel back with spring tension. Smart soloution to add some allowance and avoid having to produce the components with perfect mating.
@joshua7233
@joshua7233 13 күн бұрын
That gun is like a book. Incredible to be able to see exactly how everything lays inside.
@The_Modeling_Underdog
@The_Modeling_Underdog 11 күн бұрын
A deceptively brilliant design in all of its simplicity. Loved it.
@akmarksman
@akmarksman 14 күн бұрын
A lot of these stamped SMGs would be extra cool if they offered a suppressed barrel as a option.
@OldManAndTheSeaOfTooManyCats
@OldManAndTheSeaOfTooManyCats 14 күн бұрын
Brilliant simplicity. I recognize these from so many movies…
@PalKrammer
@PalKrammer 12 күн бұрын
A simple, but good design that works well. That is something to be proud of.
@keithdorset3824
@keithdorset3824 13 күн бұрын
So elegantly simple. Love the clamshell and parts storage.
@sgtommyc
@sgtommyc 14 күн бұрын
The fact that they sold well in SE Asia is probably down to a very tight band between the Royal houses of Denmark and Thailand, dating back to the mid 19th century. I can easily see a Danish trade delegation visiting Thailand, shortly after the war, gifting the king a hundred or so brand new SMG's for his newly formed army, making all the generals wanting what the king has 😄
@billykershaw2781
@billykershaw2781 14 күн бұрын
Wow, simple, efficient, low rate of fire, like it,..... would like to see one on the range...100 yards... I'm a Brit, so I'm quite happy just watching....
@thelaughinghyenas8465
@thelaughinghyenas8465 14 күн бұрын
Absolutely fascinating design. I really am impressed and am glad you brought it.
@bt3411
@bt3411 13 күн бұрын
I've never been impressed by a single one of these el cheapo stamped wartime guns, but this thing is rad!
@Too_Many_Kittens
@Too_Many_Kittens 10 күн бұрын
That's an absolute genius design, low tech and high reliability.
@TheFanatical1
@TheFanatical1 13 күн бұрын
Not only is this an incredibly useful design from the perspective of everyone making it and using it, it also lends itself more ably to "this is how the gun works, and I can show you directly" than nearly any other design featured on this channel. Well done, Danes.
@efrain4330
@efrain4330 12 күн бұрын
I actually was amazed when it opened like a lunchbox 😮 someone needs to remake this
@theoduce1695
@theoduce1695 14 күн бұрын
Wrist watches are usually worn on non dominate wrist because of several reasons: 1. Up until the 1980's watches were expensive and to minimize wear having them on the non dominate hand did that. i. e. The watch is not banged up reaching for something, like inside a car engine or inside a computer etc. 2. The watch is sometimes caught and interfers with movement. Like a fast draw of a gun. 3. The watch also allows the wrist to be grabbed more effectively , it makes it harder to slip out of a persons grabbing your wrist. Just a little FYI, is there any other reasons I missed? Ian keep up the good work.
@channingwalmsley9738
@channingwalmsley9738 14 күн бұрын
I’m so glad to see an updated video on this! I’ve always loved the simple construction and overall look of them. No shooting any more ):
@denialdesign
@denialdesign 13 күн бұрын
I just watched an episode of The Six Million Dollar Man "Ballinderry" and the guards were using Madsen M50s and then this popped up on my feed ten minutes later!
@exuberance3973
@exuberance3973 14 күн бұрын
The M50 was also one of the reference models for a few of the submachine guns in Destiny 2
@CAGECS
@CAGECS 14 күн бұрын
I am from denmark and its very interesting to learn about these native weapons. I never knew denmark manufactured their own guns, thanks for the video!
@Mr.T711
@Mr.T711 12 күн бұрын
Interesting piece, the engineering and production aspects are a unique combo.
@Vtarngpb
@Vtarngpb 14 күн бұрын
Thanks Ian!
@cybersoldier2010
@cybersoldier2010 13 күн бұрын
On the movie, Beneath the Planet of the Apes, the gorilla army, under the command of General Ursus, carried a submachine gun; it was in fact, Madsen submachineguns with a thumbhole stock/pistol grip and furniture set up, to make look like a simian gun; same as the converted m-1 carbines that were outfitted with a thumbhole stocked furniture. They were used only once in that movie. However, they were brought back, as regular guns, for the movie, Battle for the Planet of the Apes.
@jjforcebreaker
@jjforcebreaker 14 күн бұрын
Super interesting story, and cool lil gun. Thanks, Ian!
@stormthrush37
@stormthrush37 14 күн бұрын
I like the design of this stock. It has the capability of functioning like a forward hand grip when folded as well as an additional way of carrying the gun. How well this works in practice if it's only a friction fit is a good question to be fair. On an unrelated note that is such a strange design for taking the gun apart. A clamshell design? I like it, don't know how well it works in practice, but definitely unique to be certain. I guess it kind of makes sense, this in place of a weld all around the middle seam of a stamped gun like the Grease Gun.
@TurboDog73TX
@TurboDog73TX 14 күн бұрын
What a nice, simple piece. Thanks for showing it to Us.
@GR46404
@GR46404 13 күн бұрын
Thanks, Mr McCollum. This was very well done, on an interesting gun. Just what I come here for!
@sdhubbard
@sdhubbard 14 күн бұрын
I like these late war, post war stamped submachine guns. Absolutely ingenious in their simplicity!
@FIREBRAND38
@FIREBRAND38 14 күн бұрын
Good stuff, Ian. the _Star Trek_ episode was *Bread and Circuses* filmed when the show was still produced by Desilu. Madsen's were also used in Desilyu productions like _Mission Impossible._ After Desilu was sold to Paramount in 1968 you can also find Madsen M50s during the Baptism Scene near the end of _The Godfather_ in 1972. Near the beginning the character of Rocco Lampone is in a hotel room re-assembling his weapon. Near the end he and another torpedo burst into a room and spray the people within with their SMGs.
@moonlightserenade6292
@moonlightserenade6292 13 күн бұрын
Madsen M50 & Swedish K were the most goodlooking postwar era submachine guns, before arrival of HK MP5. Just can't get enough of the look of it.
@jamesdouglas8760
@jamesdouglas8760 14 күн бұрын
When you opened it up,"Wella!". First thought, at the factory with trained personnel, they must have literally crapped these out fast. Easy assembly, with a different vibe about it. Seems more like a Shop Project in school. Practical, uncomplicated, serviceable. Looks like something you would see in the tool dept. at Home Depot. I would think of Cheese, Chocolate, or pastry when every I would read or hear Denmark or Danish. Now I will think of this too..............thanks Ian, for the experience clam shell crap, better than escargot!
@2011Kestrel
@2011Kestrel 13 күн бұрын
I remember seeing a gun like this in a late 70’s early 80’s action comedy movie when I was a kid. The bad guys were using them, and the good guys (using revolvers) would shoot the bad guys, pick up the machine guns and use them against the bad guys. Even as a kid, not recognizing this gun took me out of the movie. It’s really cool finding out what it was after all these years.
@Tekdruid
@Tekdruid 13 күн бұрын
That's actually remarkably clever in saving on parts that don't need to withstand a lot of pressure.
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