Madsen Saetter: Denmark's Remarkable Unsuccessful GPMG

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The Maden-Saetter was the Madsen (DISA) company’s entry into the GPMG arena. It Wass developed by Eric Larsen-Saetter in the early 1950s, although it did not enter production until 1960. The design was heavily German-influenced, with an MG34-like receiver, MG42-like recoil mechanism and feed system, and G43-like locking system. Unfortunately for DISA, it was a bit too complicated and had to compete against some truly excellent GPMG alternative at the time; the FN MAG and MG42/59 (aka MG3). A total of just 11,500 were produced, and the only significant military contract was to the Indonesian Army.
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@fredwupkensoppel8949
@fredwupkensoppel8949 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Ian ever sat in a museum with a disassembled gun and couldn't figure out how to put something back together, with a nervous smile and growing unease every time staff passed him by.
@rkadi6540
@rkadi6540 2 жыл бұрын
Thats were you put that camera in good use, record while disassemble it and watch your recorded video if you forget some
@JohnDoe-be5zx
@JohnDoe-be5zx 2 жыл бұрын
He said in a Q&A that it has happened a few times, but if he's ever unsure he asks one of the staff to go through it with him before filming.
@joel466
@joel466 2 жыл бұрын
One of those insane bolt action to semi auto conversion guns frustrated and confused both him and several staff who were also experts.
@alexm566
@alexm566 2 жыл бұрын
the museums have their own experts
@kot0472
@kot0472 7 ай бұрын
Why do you think Ian always shows the gun dissasemble, but almost never shows reassemble?
@bigj2240
@bigj2240 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing one of these in East Timor in 1999. The Indonesian military was very rifle heavy but machine gun light. This gun, an FN Minimi and an old RPD were the only machine guns I saw. Out of literally thousands of Indonesians!
@mamons_2339
@mamons_2339 2 жыл бұрын
Wow i dont know our army used this MG.
@greycatturtle7132
@greycatturtle7132 2 жыл бұрын
Wow cool
@zulkifligumilang3155
@zulkifligumilang3155 2 жыл бұрын
not only those three but also M60 (in use with cavalry unit) and FN MAG at those time, hell even Brimob (Police paramilitary unit) still use M1919A6 and Bren Mk II in the late 90s-early 2000s
@oaples8790
@oaples8790 2 жыл бұрын
no offense man, but you sure the guys you saw weren't "Indonesian backed militias"?
@sir_vix
@sir_vix 2 жыл бұрын
From what Bob Howard (John Howard's brother) told me when he was teaching me at uni, it was a bit of both, but the Australian Govt. were keen to emphasise the militias narrative over Indonesian forces to avoid further escalating tensions with Jakarta. But then if the OP was part of INTERFET, I'd probably take his word over some shit I heard in a Sydney lecture theatre 9 years after the fact.
@SteelHex
@SteelHex 2 жыл бұрын
That is the coat of arms of the Indonesian Army, complete with the Kartika Eka Paksi (lonestar bird) banner. It’s very interesting because it is not strictly identical with the current logo. As you know, Indonesia went through a major upheaval in the 60’s, where hundreds of thousands (maybe even millions) of people died. It could represent the design used by the previous regime.
@someguydino6770
@someguydino6770 2 жыл бұрын
Once upon a time another gentleman named "Mr. McCollum" disassembled a rifle and explained all of it's workings to his young son Ian. He never dreamed that later in life; his son would go on to share the history and inner workings of hundreds of firearms and other weapons with millions of people. Pretty cool the way it worked out; my thanks to BOTH Mr. McCollums!
@justindunlap1235
@justindunlap1235 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the cooler episodes are the ones where Ian brings his dad on.
@bronxkal9275
@bronxkal9275 2 жыл бұрын
@@justindunlap1235 can you give me the link or just tittle of the video please?
@justindunlap1235
@justindunlap1235 2 жыл бұрын
@@bronxkal9275 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJanpn57p9yUaqs I'm pretty sure this is what I was thinking of, but i think there are other instances of him being on the channel.
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 2 жыл бұрын
When name's Madsen, you know it's going to be: 1) Very cool. 2) Unsuccessful There's the one light machine gun that was very ahead of its time, and then decades later what seems like an explicit effort to proactively make content for Ian.
@justindunlap1235
@justindunlap1235 2 жыл бұрын
3) and rather well built.
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! We are a pretty small country! (Hrmph) ;-)
@me.ne.frego.
@me.ne.frego. 2 жыл бұрын
The Madsen LMG was very successful. The argentine army used it in 7,65mm, I have a pair of 30-round magazines, they are primitive and weird and are painted green.
@dallesamllhals9161
@dallesamllhals9161 2 жыл бұрын
@@me.ne.frego. What is is a non-primitive magazine? Dear departed frogeater :-P
@genghiskhan6809
@genghiskhan6809 2 жыл бұрын
ROFL
@DragonBornish
@DragonBornish 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, you dropped the D in Madsen! As a Dane it makes me happy to see people who make an effort to pronounce our weird language correctly, thank you.
@kennethquesenberry2610
@kennethquesenberry2610 Жыл бұрын
A gentleman from Glasgow used to say "Pa'erson", with two "T's".
@ninaakari5181
@ninaakari5181 Жыл бұрын
Why the d is dropped? Does it apply in all danish words?
@DragonBornish
@DragonBornish Жыл бұрын
@@ninaakari5181 in this case it's because it's a surname with its root in the name Mads, pronounced like Mass. Our D's are pronounced if they're the first letter in a word. If they're in the middle or end of a word they're either soft or non existent, but our rules are weird and wildly inconsistent.
@ninaakari5181
@ninaakari5181 Жыл бұрын
@@DragonBornish very interesting, thank you! I always wonderder "why are these news reporters pronounsing that submarine killer's surname wrongly" when it was on the news a few years back 😅. Now I understant
@tomdixon7264
@tomdixon7264 2 жыл бұрын
Had this come out in '52 instead of '60 I believe we would have many more examples. Looks like they waited too long.
@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was just thinking "if they'd gotten this out 5 years earlier...."
@maxkronader5225
@maxkronader5225 2 жыл бұрын
With this gun, the entrance exam for machinegunner school consisted of a jigsaw puzzle proficiency test.
@scruffysstash
@scruffysstash 2 жыл бұрын
Man, this thing is seemingly well thought out, but seems rather complex in terms of overall part count.
@justindunlap1235
@justindunlap1235 2 жыл бұрын
I could just imagine grunts in the field trying to keep track of all of those parts.
@MarbleDuck
@MarbleDuck 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s a part count issue so much as that all those parts can be removed from one another.
@kristianpoulherkild3401
@kristianpoulherkild3401 2 жыл бұрын
"seemingly well thought out, but seems rather complex in terms of overall part count." Ahh, the very definition of Madsen ; )
@nikitajukov4915
@nikitajukov4915 2 жыл бұрын
I would say all those parts are quite simply shaped and also seems like military on budget could run those MGs for centuries.
@justindunlap1235
@justindunlap1235 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikitajukov4915 I saw another comment saying that he saw these still in service in Southeast asia in the mid 90s, so that's a reasonable claim.
@johnyricco1220
@johnyricco1220 2 жыл бұрын
They also made a bigger 50 cal version. I don’t know if anyone bought them, so might be very hard to find
@troelschristensen8562
@troelschristensen8562 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen an example at the Aalborg Defence- and Garrison Museum - In an experimental naval twin-mount, no less.
@Farbautisonn
@Farbautisonn 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. As a dane its allways Nice to see Danish arms represented.
@geofftimm2291
@geofftimm2291 2 жыл бұрын
The Danes are like the Swiss, a triumph of quality manufacture over design. Geoff Who admires the skills.
@CheeseDanish85
@CheeseDanish85 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, as a Dane I am always happy when our firearms history gets covered. It's a shame Madsen couldn't find lasting success, but I suppose it was also to be expected in an industry that became dominated by much larger players. I wonder if Madsen could have been more successful if they had tried to work together with some of the larger companies. Their approach to design and manufacturing would have been relatively compatible with other larger manufacturers in the region, especially the germanic companies.
@geofftimm2291
@geofftimm2291 2 жыл бұрын
@@CheeseDanish85 Imagine if Madsen had bought the AR-180 design and produced it with quality unknown in the UK and without the restrictions on export the Japanese had at the time. Geoff Who would have bought a semi-auto version if offered.
@chrthiel
@chrthiel 2 жыл бұрын
The SIG gun, or Neuhausen as it was called in Denmark, was adopted in the traditional heavy MG role and used on a tripod at a ll time. It served alongside a whole host of different LMGs including new and old Madsens, Swedish BARs and Bren Guns. It and all the LMGs were replaced by the MG 42/59 in1962.
@heinedenmark
@heinedenmark 2 жыл бұрын
? The Neuhausen is a 9mm pistol..
@chrthiel
@chrthiel 2 жыл бұрын
@@heinedenmark Same factory, different gun. The pistol was the M/49
@heinedenmark
@heinedenmark 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrthiel I know M/49 Neuhausen very. Used one in Afghanistan. It's not from Denmark and got nothing to do with Madsen.
@chrthiel
@chrthiel 2 жыл бұрын
@@heinedenmark So? I'm talking about the SIG gun Ian mentioned in the video which was also called the Neuhausen
@heinedenmark
@heinedenmark 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrthiel That's weird
@EvoSwatch
@EvoSwatch 2 жыл бұрын
Afaik cmiiw the Madsen-Saetter is still in service by the Indonesian Army sometimes known as *SMR* Madsen Saetter which stands for *Senapan Mesin Ringan* or *Light Machine Gun.* Interestingly the FN MAG also entered service and licensed by PT Pindad as the SM2 (formerly known as SPM2)
@twigglykevin
@twigglykevin 2 жыл бұрын
Hurts my heart seeing that flash hider all green with oxidized copper. Screaming "clean me"
@Keichwoud357
@Keichwoud357 2 жыл бұрын
Other than the Madsen LMG, the only legacy Danish arms seem to have is to make this channel live up to its name.
@cameronferguson7145
@cameronferguson7145 2 жыл бұрын
The Madsen-Rasmussen seems to be the earliest known, working example of a self-loading rifle, so it's not a total loss in the legacy department
@vincentmueller3717
@vincentmueller3717 6 ай бұрын
Also, the smgs were a mainstay of 1960's tv, from Mission: Impossible to Star Trek.
@swagnut9864
@swagnut9864 2 жыл бұрын
Always love to see a video about a gun that I know nothing about
@JohnRedacted
@JohnRedacted 2 жыл бұрын
Nambu & 1919 acid trip fever dream sitting on a table
@AndreasBrOlesen
@AndreasBrOlesen 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I would really like to see the Madsen 20 mm cannon. In Denmark we had them on a side carriage on Nimbus motorcycles. It was a surprisingly capable system.
@sawyere2496
@sawyere2496 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds very cool
@dphalanx7465
@dphalanx7465 2 жыл бұрын
The Dutch used them as well. The motorcycle sidecar-autocannon is quite possibly the coolest light afv of the WW2 era.
@johnenembe1025
@johnenembe1025 2 жыл бұрын
The Indonesian army territorial unit/command near my city still has this gun, it looks like it's already converted to 7,62 nato. There's also some gun still chambered in 30.06. This gun is used by the territorial command while the army combat element/unit used the FN MAG.
@tomt810
@tomt810 2 жыл бұрын
I like that the pistol grip looks like a straight up block of wood.
@grahamlopez3742
@grahamlopez3742 2 жыл бұрын
Did you see all the other shit going on? With the amount of bits and doodads going on, buy a belt sander and fix the grip yourself lmao
@Truthbomb918
@Truthbomb918 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like ak grip
@RaDeus87
@RaDeus87 2 жыл бұрын
So its a flapper/linear-hammer locked action, its a very clever out-of-battery safety 😯
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it solved the problem of bounce-back that the MG34/42 never got right.
@BeingFireRetardant
@BeingFireRetardant 2 жыл бұрын
That's possibly the most clever part of the gun. That, and the long but extremely durable looking upper reciever cam track arm, that ultra reliably transfers longitudinal motion into lateral motion to actuate the feed pawls. More parts? Maybe... Each one incredibly basic and robust? Definitely. Just look at the fire control group. It's like a lesson in design simplicity. The triangle flats on the gas regulator are an elegant solution. The whole gun screams functionality above all else. What more do you want in a GPMG? Seems like a better lockup than the MAG/240 and MG3 honestly. Perhaps a modernized version is in order. Interesting design...
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 2 жыл бұрын
I like that gas regulator design; smart...
@Ph33NIXx
@Ph33NIXx 2 жыл бұрын
i'm intrigued, could you elaborate?
@jyttesteenbruhn3211
@jyttesteenbruhn3211 Жыл бұрын
Denmark did adobt the SIG as M/51 but only in limited numbers. Is was mostly used as an SMG on tripod and/or on pintle mounts on vehichles. The primary replacement for the M/24 & M/48 Madsen (DISA) LMGs was the MG3 - known to us as the LMG M/62. The latter replaced all the other types in the sixties - and is still used by our army in vehicles etc.
@g-dcomplex1609
@g-dcomplex1609 2 жыл бұрын
those crafty danes :) the large tri-port adjustable gas system appears to look rugged and very easy to clean out, 12:00 the trigger group housing appears to be properly heat treated like a color case hardening, of which if so is a sign of high quality and engineering that many other manufacturers may not have gone to the extreme of doing on a part that does not wear out through repeated action, this MG seems to be well thought out, and easy to maintain, price of manufacture may have worked against it's popularity as well? thanks ian, i enjoyed the video
@hendriktonisson2915
@hendriktonisson2915 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I've been waiting for a video about this very rare post-WW2 GPMG for a long time.
@GoofballAndi
@GoofballAndi 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man i remember thinking this thing was cool as hell, assuming it was a super late WWII gun i'd somehow never heard of. It's just one of those not-quite-WWII-not-quite-vietnam guns, it doesnt look like it fits anywhere in time. Danish gun design is a weird beast
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like a 1930s Italian design that has been debugged.
@spondulixtanstaafl7887
@spondulixtanstaafl7887 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching the engineering aspects to these firearms, the ingenuity is always fascinating.
@hughgordon6435
@hughgordon6435 2 жыл бұрын
Love it when Ian stresses "interesting" as a feature?
@michaeltempsch5282
@michaeltempsch5282 2 жыл бұрын
One can absolutely hear the quotes...😁
@kewsoner7924
@kewsoner7924 2 жыл бұрын
As a Dane, again Ian thought me about a danish gun i didn't know existed! Thank you Ian, or should I say I praise the gun Jesus.
@wolfmann2023
@wolfmann2023 2 жыл бұрын
Wow Ian, some assembly required. I really enjoy watching your videos, I can't wait till you show us how you reassemble it.
@MadCow-mb3fw
@MadCow-mb3fw 2 жыл бұрын
Putting the forgotten in forgotten weapons today. Loved it, can’t wait for more.
@avp5964
@avp5964 2 жыл бұрын
Vintage forgotten weapons, great video thank you! Mind blown when I saw the actuator for the feed mechanism that's a new one haha.
@WittelMeThis
@WittelMeThis 2 жыл бұрын
While it might be the least interesting part of this magnificent gun, I think it's cool that Ian gets to show the modular trigger off because he doesn't usually have a reason to do so haha
@richardelliott9511
@richardelliott9511 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's a lot of bits and pieces. Found myself zoning out and began to worry that my interest was waning but then I was saved by Ian stating how complex this thing is. And I'm back to anticipating tomorrow's video!
@dyggiprahl9881
@dyggiprahl9881 2 жыл бұрын
Danish Madsen/Dansk Rekylriffel Syndikat: Look we made this amazing LMG. Danish army: Yes, MG3 it is then.
@KonradSeverinHilstad
@KonradSeverinHilstad 2 жыл бұрын
Ian getting excited over the gun being flapper locked made my day! 😅
@gunnermurphy6632
@gunnermurphy6632 2 жыл бұрын
You post every time I'm busy shooting before work. I'm not complaining
@kei_otake
@kei_otake 2 жыл бұрын
The way Ian correctly pronounces Madsen makes me realize that Mads Mikkelsen is probably actually Mas Mikkelsen…
@norwegianwiking
@norwegianwiking 2 жыл бұрын
What strikes me is how the bolt, carrier and receiver are generally round in shape, easy to make in a lathe and mill. Makes me wonder how much of the design was dictated by the machinery the company had available.
@Ulvetann
@Ulvetann 2 жыл бұрын
I believe about 100%. Cast steel production is a whole different animal to tame.
@BeingFireRetardant
@BeingFireRetardant 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's not a case of the inability to manufacture complex parts as much as it was an intentional leaning into the robustness inherent in very basic shapes like circles, triangles, and wedges. More of a focus on reliability and functionality... Trigger group Cam track arm Gas regulator Bolt carrier Locking wedges Longitudinal striker (that physically cannot detonate out of battery) Very basic shapes, simple machines really, arranged for maximum mechanical advantage, and flawless reliability... Heck, even the sling attachments are designed to radius an angle logically. I don't think it's unrefined or rudimentary at all. Actually seems like a number of very elegant design solutions on many levels, just engineered for mass production. They certainly had some good ideas that are very much still viable today.
@kristianpoulherkild3401
@kristianpoulherkild3401 2 жыл бұрын
I just love the amount of time it takes Ian to explain what a Madsen gun does in one moment, compared with how quickly he can explain the operation of other guns...
@robinhede7467
@robinhede7467 2 жыл бұрын
Hello from Denmark! Love your videos, very well explained and detailed! Btw the name Saetter is actually pronounced like the word "letter" because "ae" is used instead of the letter "æ". Not meant as to correct you, but as knowledge! "Madsen" is also pronounced "massen" but you already know that because I remember you have mentioned it in videos before.. Danish is a tough language, even Danish people don't always speak it properly 😆
@kantenklaus9753
@kantenklaus9753 2 жыл бұрын
By Odin, I appreciate my northern neighbor and especially the beer. Greetings from Aventoft
@jayfelsberg1931
@jayfelsberg1931 2 жыл бұрын
According to a small book on El Salvador's armored vehicles, there were pictures of this gun used in various vehicles and it was noted as fairly common in ES service, although numbers are not stated. An associated BMG .50 version was designed and trialed. These guns are in the 1969 editioniof Small Arms of the World. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madsen-Saetter_machine_gun#Service_history
@flemmingjensen4656
@flemmingjensen4656 2 жыл бұрын
We still need to see the 20 mm madsen machinegun👍🙃
@maverick740
@maverick740 2 жыл бұрын
Madsen Saetter still indeed used by the Indonesian Army Paratroopers, last year Garuda Shields with US Army was an example 😂
@aryawirayudha
@aryawirayudha 2 жыл бұрын
Where can i see it?
@codymansfield7358
@codymansfield7358 2 жыл бұрын
Madsen is a unappreciated company. The nato type aks they made looked awesome. Also the Madsen from ww1 seemed advanced and way more compact.
@cyberretard2192
@cyberretard2192 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed some light crumbs on the table. Emagine Ian finishing his sandwich right before the filming, then epically dusts his hands off and saying "Alright, back to work"
@alexm566
@alexm566 2 жыл бұрын
he said in other video the best way to clean gold damascened guns was using oil and bread crumbs
@Coltbreath
@Coltbreath 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Ian!
@Fail4TheNumber1
@Fail4TheNumber1 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the old DISA factory, if I remember this correctly, was converted to making shopping carts! and later the factory was torn down and on the lot is now a shopping center
@aabenhus
@aabenhus 2 жыл бұрын
As a Dane I thank you for showing this weapon. Always interesting to see forgotten stuff from ones country.
@NightmareGbg
@NightmareGbg 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this MG before. Very cool.
@prairiemountainadventures
@prairiemountainadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Holy, so many parts, wouldn't want to take this apart in any field
@bryangrote8781
@bryangrote8781 2 жыл бұрын
Cool gun. Too bad it was too complicated to be adopted in any significant numbers. Of course, if it wasn’t complicated it wouldn’t be a Madsen.
@davefellhoelter1343
@davefellhoelter1343 2 жыл бұрын
This Thing is about the perfect Storm of these Techs all coming together! Perfectly Elegant in it's simplicity. What is it's NEXT Ancestor? I bet it is KOOLweL too! The EASE and Grace these weapons are handled, disassembled, and reassembled, along with the Total Mastery of knowledge is NOT Lost on ME! Thank You Sir! May I have Another? Sorry I missed your "Thumbs Up" I got it!
@CarrotofGreatness
@CarrotofGreatness 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, love you content as always, just wanted to point out the name on the thumbnail is "Masden" instead of "Madsen". Just wanted to point it out in case you want to correct it.
@Knuck_Knucks
@Knuck_Knucks 2 жыл бұрын
Folding sights. Eat your heart out Magpul!
@thomasray9830
@thomasray9830 2 жыл бұрын
The parts just kept coming out of that thing 😂
@ALIGwedew62
@ALIGwedew62 2 жыл бұрын
I knew its an Indonesian one because they still use it up until 2004 aceh war
@FATxAZZxGONExCRAZZZY
@FATxAZZxGONExCRAZZZY 2 жыл бұрын
Always love a bit of my countrys gun history
@RealCadde
@RealCadde 2 жыл бұрын
"... In really good condition" Yeah maybe for its rarity. But i'd say that is looking to be in quite a horrible state by most standards. All that green crust and dirty insides means it has been neglected. I would never leave it in that state, even less so if i sent it to an auction!
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, pretty sad.
@nikolajc7617
@nikolajc7617 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see something from my home.
@moalongkumer3232
@moalongkumer3232 2 жыл бұрын
Now that we get a good close up look of it, it makes one somewhat suspect that atleast a little of the general layout and aesthetics seems to have loosely influenced the PK.
@maicamacho9407
@maicamacho9407 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't mind owning this GPMG its different for sure
@danpoor1
@danpoor1 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't figure out why this gun wasn't popular until you showed us the locking system.
@parrotraiser6541
@parrotraiser6541 2 жыл бұрын
A fascinating collection must have been dispersed for this auction.
@danschneider9921
@danschneider9921 2 жыл бұрын
The Danes sure took a lot of rejection in good sprits, given all the cold war era firearms they tried to sell but met little success with
@martinjuulandersen9694
@martinjuulandersen9694 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah WW2 surplus and Marshall help really killed of that company. Sadly
@michaeltempsch5282
@michaeltempsch5282 2 жыл бұрын
This ain't no bicycle 🚲😁(pedal != peddle)
@danschneider9921
@danschneider9921 2 жыл бұрын
@@spyczech Yeah I think it was the M47. Adopted by I think the Columbian Navy or something to that effect
@CardinalAsh
@CardinalAsh 2 жыл бұрын
@@spyczech Yes, the Madsen M47. The idea was to sell it to militaries that could not afford to kit their main infantry with semi-automatic rifles, but self-loading rifles ended up rapidly proliferating (as well as the unexpected amount of military surplus that was low-cost) and ultimately it only got one contract by Colombia for a few thousand rifles in .30-06 springfield. They ended up only being issued for ceremonial use, and eventually got sold and exported to the US on the consumer market.
@cmanderstedt
@cmanderstedt 2 жыл бұрын
reminds me to the G3 rolerdelayed mekanism on auto in many ways.
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian. .
@festungmittlewesten3108
@festungmittlewesten3108 2 жыл бұрын
the bolt slightly reminds me of a kjellman's style of flapper locking
@michailpanchev9952
@michailpanchev9952 2 жыл бұрын
Redundantly intricate.
@Plastikdoom
@Plastikdoom 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, I’d love to hear your thoughts on SIG winning the NGSW contract, and the army ordering 20,000 for field trials, and the round they’re chambered in, 6.8x51mm, steel based and brass casing, 80,000psi. Think it’s got any merit as a new adopted system? And how would we do that with Nato? Wouldn’t they need to adopt it then, just like with 7.62 nato?
@saiprateek5779
@saiprateek5779 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of reminds me of fn mag.58, for quick change Barrel belt-fed and also open-bolt design. Except how it works😄😁 love from India 🇮🇳 ❤
@Akkolon
@Akkolon 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@martinjuulandersen9694
@martinjuulandersen9694 2 жыл бұрын
As far as i know Denmark adopted The MG3 machinnegun calling it the M/62. And that was supplied by Rheinmetal. SIG did supply the Danish army with its sidearm the M/49 Neuhausen pistol (SIG P210). So you Got them confused or am I wrong?
@heinedenmark
@heinedenmark 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Never heard about a Neuhausen MG. Been in the army 8 years and have used the pistol on deployments.
@TheLimalicious
@TheLimalicious 2 жыл бұрын
The danish military used a bunch of different mgs before adopting Tyskersaven in 62.
@MagnusPedersen
@MagnusPedersen 2 жыл бұрын
@@heinedenmark SIG "Maschinengewehr Neuhausen M50" Indført i 1951, Udleveret til bla Gardehusarregimentet, som brugte dem i både feltaffutage og på køretøjer.
@heinedenmark
@heinedenmark 2 жыл бұрын
@@MagnusPedersen Okay. Tak for det.
@me.ne.frego.
@me.ne.frego. 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy I love finned barrels and cone flash hiders..
@jesperFrost
@jesperFrost 2 жыл бұрын
Did I miss the mentioning of the number of rounds pr. minute? I from Denmark and one of the strong features of the German machine guns was their high numbers of rounds pr. minute, so just thought if that had been a concern when designing this.
@BerndFelsche
@BerndFelsche 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting combination of mechanisms.. sights split between receiver and barrel could limit accuracy, especially suppressive fire at beyond 600 metres or so.
@user-njyzcip
@user-njyzcip 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but u want the front sight to be on the barrel and fully adjustable so you can keep zero when changing between barrels
@BerndFelsche
@BerndFelsche 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-njyzcip ideal would be to have both sights on the barrel... But that makes it very awkward.
@patrikjohansson5939
@patrikjohansson5939 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought about asking Ian McKellen to do a voice-recording of your intro? "I'm Ian McKellen and this is a stainless steel MAC-10..."
@user-ug7ec6cm3c
@user-ug7ec6cm3c 2 жыл бұрын
The nut on the gas regulator block looks like a cone from a bicycle cup and cone hub bearing.
@viridisxiv766
@viridisxiv766 2 жыл бұрын
some people do unboxing videos, i think ian should gun cleaning videos. stream it live maybe, with a casual q&a at the same time.
@maxman1602
@maxman1602 2 жыл бұрын
That flash hider needs a cleaning.
@geofftimm2291
@geofftimm2291 2 жыл бұрын
Looks more solid and well designed than the M-60 I learned in 1972, in the US Army. Geoff Who has considerable experience.
@Truthbomb918
@Truthbomb918 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't the Danes adopt the m60e6, irony
@geofftimm2291
@geofftimm2291 2 жыл бұрын
@@Truthbomb918 I think the US Army never accepted the idea, the M-60 was an expendable item. Once the receiver was loose, it should have been discarded and replaced. Instead the US Army expected the gun to last like a Browning, which is assembled from forged and machine steel plates and is heavy as heck.
@Truthbomb918
@Truthbomb918 2 жыл бұрын
@@geofftimm2291 u do need strength in a gpmg, and that means weight. Fn got it right with the mag
@jameskazd9951
@jameskazd9951 2 жыл бұрын
@@Truthbomb918 it is a delicate balancing act, need it light enough to be lugged around all day but strong enough to handle sustained fire
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 2 жыл бұрын
@@Truthbomb918 MAG is way too heavy to carry as a dismounted infantry MG. The M60 is a much better weight to patrol with. And today you can get the Knight's AMG for half the weight of the MAG.
@aarondrennan5650
@aarondrennan5650 2 жыл бұрын
The bolt and firing pin set up looks like a bigger version of a Remington 550 .22 rifle
@alimanski7941
@alimanski7941 2 жыл бұрын
So, the locking flaps double as an out-of-battery safety? Since if they cant lock into place (i.e out of battery), the firing pin can't be struck...
@alimanski7941
@alimanski7941 2 жыл бұрын
@@timewave02012 this, however, is an LMG, not an SMG, and a hugh pressure rifle round...
@markstrue-nielsen275
@markstrue-nielsen275 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing people trying to pronounce Danish, makes me realize how weird our language actually is.
@stewartrimmer8327
@stewartrimmer8327 2 жыл бұрын
Seems very simple but too many bits that can be lost on a field strip
@aryaardiansyah2481
@aryaardiansyah2481 2 жыл бұрын
Truly a unique General Purpose Machine Gun
@1nfamyX
@1nfamyX 2 жыл бұрын
6:23 **45 degrees. 4 lugs like that would have rotational symmetry at 90, 180, 270, & 360 degrees.
@visual7504
@visual7504 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a PK and a ZB26 got thrown into an idea blender...
@Jorgensen99
@Jorgensen99 2 жыл бұрын
I just like the way you pronounce it, almost danish. You never, and I repeat never, say the "D" in danish lastnames such as Madsen, Andersen.
@SilZen
@SilZen 2 жыл бұрын
Just letting u know the title pic of this vid got Madsen spelled as Masden. But this vid is perfect as always.
@rasmussrensen2029
@rasmussrensen2029 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for educating us danes on our own gun history
@TheHylianBatman
@TheHylianBatman 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Lots of parts. I respect that, though perhaps it's not very practical in military use.
@rollfpeters5159
@rollfpeters5159 2 жыл бұрын
Like always --great GUNTRAINING--yes Bren barell change --rest MG 42 --intressting Carabine 41 / 43 bolt (hope I catched it right) - anyway --there is something I like to tell you ---in TONDERN DENMARK is a museum / they have a machinegun from the danish army --BEFORE WW2--2 years ago --they got information to demilitarise it (oh my english sorry) possible it´s still alive !?--next information --TONDERN (before end WW1 was german) so they had a ZEPPELIN AIRFIELD there --and it was the first "carrier airraid" by the british / in the world--I enjoy you channel --hope enough "guns" left --tue rolf
@genghiskhan6809
@genghiskhan6809 2 жыл бұрын
If this thing came out 5 years earlier, somebody big would’ve adopted it.
@Leander_
@Leander_ 2 жыл бұрын
This linkage between the bolt and the feed system that you show at 11:12 seems kind of wacky - why not just copy the MG42 and place the stud on top of the bolt instead of at the back, thus forcing you to add a second linkage?
@davidlefranc6240
@davidlefranc6240 2 жыл бұрын
Cool weapon for sure .
@martinrohm5469
@martinrohm5469 2 жыл бұрын
No, Madsen 🙂
@angst_
@angst_ 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is there screen tearing? a vertical line of desync in the middle of the screen that can be seen. Sorry if it's just my yt being dumb.
@anish-79
@anish-79 3 ай бұрын
What is the Barrell Length of Madsen Saetter ?
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