Magic Mushroom Paralysis? Unraveling The Mystery of "Wood Lovers Paralysis"

[@kiwiwriter]

In New Zealand in the 80's we thought we observed this but turns out there was a mycologist (PR Johnston) working advising police and farmers to use a fungicide that caused the paralysis. Stamets mentions the guy when outlining NZ psilocybe fungi in his book on psilocybes of the world. I experienced collapse myself, and saw several other instances of it. One minute you're ok the next minute your legs are simply gone. Then you'd be ok a short time (5 mins to half hour) later. I wound up telling off the guy who advised the use of the fungicide. Someone had to inform him his decisions affected real people in the real world. He smiled benignly like I'd just told him a mildly amusing anecdote, then refused to work with me at a later date. Bit of a dick, really.

[@dwightw7415]

I wouldn’t want to work with you either if you yelled at me or got really mad what did you think he would do like you more after that? No it makes people uncomfortable when others are mad

[@newportnelson]

@@dwightw7415 Boy, did you EVER miss the point of the story. Try reading the opening sentence again and see if it clicks.

[@Seether97]

@@marty3076 agreed, WLP is a quintessential part of a large Subaeruginosa trip. It wasn't until I started cultivating cubes that I even knew there was a difference. Heavy body, loss of muscle control and then just ride that trippy bliss. I never understood how people did shit while tripping on shrooms (untill I tried cubes), I cacoon myself in blankets get somewhere dark or scenic and listen to some chill beats. I also get WLP in my hands the day after most heavy trips, I find high potassium helps with it

[@djbabyjesus8381]

It's not from the sprays my friend.

[@djbabyjesus8381]

@@Seether97 WLP is NOT a quintessential part of a large Subaeruginosa trip. It's a dangerous side effect from SOME phenotypes of P. Subs. If you are getting WLP every time then you are taking the wrong phenotype. You are poisoning your self and anyone you share them with. Sorry man, I hate to inform you that you picked the wrong mushrooms. There is evidence that suggests, a single exposure to WLP can cause long term health effects from neurological disorders to deadly cancers. Use you brain... if you have a mushroom that causes paralysis, DON'T EAT IT!!!!! If you want more info, you can find it on the shroomery ; )

[@RealRabbit1124]

I’ve had this happen a lot. It’s not that it makes you paralyzed, it just makes you extremely weak. To the point you can only sit there and wait a few hours before you gain some strength back. It really sucks and is very uncomfortable.

[@fourshore502]

this happened to me on my very first trip! i wasnt even trying to trip, i just wanted microdosing but took a bit too much. had NO positive effects what so ever, actually NO psycho active effects other than ravaging anxiety. i could think and speak pretty clearly. and yeah i started shaking, my heart rate increased, even my breathing was hampered a bit and i lost control over my limbs especially my legs thank god i was at home and could lay down in my bed. i had eaten very little, i had slept pretty poorly and i had at least 2 cups of coffee before, maybe a bit dehydrated too (i know, careless, but like i said i was not actually trying to trip). those may have been contributing factors.

[@5jajalsns]

When your on shrooms it’s hard to eat like people who take shrooms don’t have an appetite for when they are tripping and since you was dehydrated and u still continue to trip I recommend drinking water at all times it helps with a good trip.

[@Null257]

Dear God, that's terrifying.

[@yxkaii]

experienced this while attempting to eat spaghetti after a trip

[@dhaktizero4406]

they must have an enzyme path in common. perhaps something only temporarily induced or inhibited, perhaps they all gave the right enzyme a beloved substrate and it was simply too busy to do its normal role. read once that estragole in basil 'can' be converted into a carcinogen (by cyp2d6) but is mitigated by other components of the basil leaf that force a different, safe metabolic path (iirc) perhaps something like this. and following from this, some enzyme supplement or a mild reversible inhibitor might prevent this from happening at all.

[@cherylbristol5144]

Sounds like it could have medical benefits, and of course some research is required.

[@kamerona]

I've had this a couple of times with Psilocybe subaeruginosa. It was from old mushrooms both times, and the second time antihistamines seemed to help a lot. I'm aware of a few other anecdotal cases from friends, and at least with subaeruginosa it is always with old mushrooms.

[@djbabyjesus8381]

True that! don't eat old/mature wood lovers. The bad chemical is produced later in the enzymatic process so the order more mature the WL, the more WLP you will experience. This is djbabyjesus. It's so cool to hear from people that got my message in a bottle about Benadryl. One thing to be clear about. Its not the antihistamines treating the WLP. It is because Diphenhydramine is a potent antimuscarinic (a competitive antagonist of muscarinic acetylcholine receptors).

[@jakebarnes3054]

@@djbabyjesus8381 hell yeah

[@yallokin2944]

Sorry I dont think so, my shrooms where dried and 1 month old and peaple get a WLP. Thanks for the tip that anihistamines can help!

[@kissfan8675309]

Days?

[@SDaniLogiQ]

Happened to me before ego death

[@gregmcb5305]

Main reason I think it is real is because trimethyltryptamine (bye itself not 4-po-tmt or 5-ho-tmt) acts a paralytic agent in itself, so adding a hydroxyl group at the fourth position probably won’t change it’s pharmacology. So I think Aeruginascin (4-po-dmt) is the culprit. Also due to the core pharmacology of paralytic agents this actually could be pretty dangerous....And it might not even actually be true paralysis but cataplexy so who knows, we need more studies.

[@colinsanders9504]

It’s real…happened to me

[@BushyHairedStranger]

More likely that bufotenine might have certain properties resembling paralytics..based upon vasoconstriction

[@cainebarlow216]

Hi Tony, cool video, thank you for discussing our survey. I would really like to mention the Australian Psychedelic Society as they kindly hosted the survey, and also the amazing organisation Entheogenesis Australis for hosting us on their webcast (as shared in the link).

[@mattyallred]

Im new to taking mushrooms, just started last 2 weeks, Ive tried them a couple of times and experienced wood loves paralysis twice. First time it was my hands and fingers, and legs. second time it was much stronger and i couldnt stand anymore, Had to drag my self to my room and on to my bed. I knew of wood lover paralysis before i took mushroom and did quite a bit of research in general. I didnt get freaked out because before i took them i understood, nothing bad can happen from taking mashrooms in the sense of dying or anything, Unless you walk out while tripping and hurt yourself but taking mushrooms them selves are fine and its all a mental game, so i knew nothing bad was going to happen. While i was feeling wood lovers i couldnt eat, my mouth went numb like i had been to the dentist and had multiple teeth removed, i could walk without shaking but i just laughed about it, Figured its my body and the shrooms finding their balance, I was on a lot of meds a few years ago ( not my choice, medical negligence ) and that gave me depression and many other problems. Mushrooms are natural, and benefit the mind, so i figured its just doing its job. Im not afraid of these things by any means because ive been on those other meds and hit rock bottom, Even when i felt paralyzed, because i knew it could be part of it, i just laughed it off. Tried to butter some bread last night haha that was a mission.

[@mattyallred]

@Ancestors_N_Mushrooms_DAB_YT could have been blue meanies that did it to me i had a mix of subs and meanies dried in a bag so when ever i had some i got a mix of shrooms or mainly just one type with a 1 or 2 of the other type, Could have been why i only got it a few times and in those few times could have got more meanies then subs or jsut meanies. The next batch i got were just subs and havent had wood lovers with those

[@djbabyjesus8381]

WLP is a dangerous side effect from SOME phenotypes of P.sub, cyan etc.... If you are getting WLP then you are taking the wrong phenotype. You are poisoning your self and anyone you share them with. Sorry man, I hate to inform you that you picked the wrong mushrooms. There is evidence that suggests, a single exposure to WLP can cause long term health effects from neurological disorders to deadly cancers. Use you brain... if you have a mushroom that causes paralysis, DON'T EAT IT!!!!! If you want more info, you can find it on the shroomery ; )

[@fiddlestickzmuzik]

Happened to me interestingly the next morning, it was like I had cerebral palsy, i couldn't walk properly and thought I had done some serious damage to my motor skills. I actually thought I had poisoned myself and was scared as hell. It frightened the hell out of me it really did. It wore off after about 2 hrs and drinking lots of water, rubbing my legs and deep breathing. Deffo something I had never experienced before. Interestingly I saw a small article about it the very next day and was blown away I had not known of this before.

[@fourshore502]

well i would argue that you were indeed poisoned but you recovered from the damage

[@Bob-ex6uh]

You helped me start growing mushrooms years and years ago with those early 5 gallon bucket videos, and thank you for still being here and providing us information!

[@FreshCapMushrooms]

That is awesome to hear! Thanks for following along :)

[@cavscout1418]

I'll tell you now, this paralysis is no joke. I just laid there, having the most intense trip. It was terrifying. It has scared me away from mushies for 8 months. I went from tripping once-twice a month, to nothing and I have no desire to eat again. Sad how one bad trip ruins it all.

[@Bob-ex6uh]

I'm so sorry brother. I love you. We love you.

[@cavscout1418]

@@Bob-ex6uh thanks dude. I love the positive vibes.

[@senor9786]

Give it another go!

[@Lennard222]

Maybe it was just a sign that tripping once a month is unhealthy

[@cavscout1418]

@@Lennard222 unhealthy? Why? Are you talking mentally? The paralysis (or rigidity, as I should call it) wa terrible. It felt like I had heavy cast on my extremities, but im not sure what you mean.

[@MyName-ue9du]

What an interesting video. Aerugenascin was actually tested for in the last Psilocybin Cup. Based on the test results I saw, it was by far the least abundant tryptamine found within the samples. For the longest time I’ve been trying to figure out what causes that heavy “body load” in certain cubes, and now I’m wondering if maybe this compound is responsible…I had previously presumed that either baeocystine or norbaeocystine were the cause, but thanks to this video I have further research to do!

[@ladonnayoung676]

When I heard about "Wood Lovers Paralysis" I equated the phenomenon immediately "Sleep Paralysis". The mushrooms when consumed have induced several altered states of mind along the sleep cycle but out of sequence. The body trying to reassert its natural order starts slipping gears to find its way back to "normal". I have had several episodes of sleep paralysis in my life, I have learned to relax back into my dreamstate and try to slowly start moving my fingers, hands, arms, and so on. Its always scary.

[@insideout277]

That happened to me one time I took Seroquel to sleep. I woke up paralyzed. Conscious but body couldn’t move. And I understood almost instantly what to do and just what you said, slowly start moving my fingers then hands and gradually trying to turn me to the side. If panicking it worsened. I must have been learning this from my previous meditation exercise to stay cool.

[@Platypus2012]

Thank you for this video. I have been paralyzed twice from Cyan's. It's very real and very weird. I drank cranberry juice extraction. It only paralyzes the muscles that you try to move. I got to the point where even talking was temporary. Zero numbness or any strange feeling in my body. It didn't have effects until about four hours after eating. Felt very sober but could not walk or even lift an arm. They were cultivated not wild picked.

[@cainebarlow216]

interesting to know

[@johnbeton4058]

Wow ok. I love Cyan's found heaps of them in the graveyard in Belgium they grew between the graves on wood chips had an instant load for the whole year. Have experienced ego death(what else would you expect from shrooms from between the graves😉)but no paralysis and it is not necessary. Do you still eat them and how long did the paralysis last?

[@fourshore502]

i got it from golden teachers, home grown, ordered grow kit from elephantos.

[@ssrtweakedaht]

@@fourshore502 did you grow them on wood?

[@fourshore502]

@@ssrtweakedaht im not sure wha tthe elephantos substrate is i think its partially wood

[@colinsanders9504]

It’s real folks trust me. Happened to me after eating about 8 grams. Went totally paralyzed the next morning for like 5-10 minutes. During the trip I also had very poor motor function. Couldn’t even drink water. Shit was crazy. Don’t recommend.

[@iknownothing-49]

I would definitely have a high level of anxiety if I tried this mushroom

[@leorising7507]

It was a strange state to be in, i was very nauseous I was also having tingling all over my body that felt loving and similar to hyper ventilating, I felt a lot of love comfort and discomfort and I could not stop trying to get up out of bed. I am somebody that has very strong will power especially when it comes to physical things I have always been an athlete so the fact that I could not get out of my bed and move made me determined to do so. What I’m trying to say is if it can hold me down it can hold anyone down, my dog noticed my discomfort she came over and laid down on top of my chest to hold me down I was extremely uncomfortable because I had to stand up go outside to vomit but I could not move. My dog was able to put me to sleep I tried to push her off for me and to voice her to get off of my chest because of how violently nauseous I was but she understood that I needed to sleep so she did not budge and she put me to sleep.. when I woke up about 30 minutes later I used all my strength to get out of bed crawl on my hands and knees get outside and throw up very violently, I felt much better and was able to move after I threw up

[@Bob-ex6uh]

Dear Lord 🤢

[@AcrylicGoblin]

I've had sleep paralysis a couple times. It was F'ing terrifying (especially the time I was dreaming some psycho was trying to get in my bedroom window). Bad enough when half asleep, I can't imagine it being easy to take when shrooming.

[@brbbiobreak]

It wouldn't be as bad emotionally as in sleep paralysis you're in a bit of delirium, seeing classic shadow people, ominous presences, hallucinated objects and sounds, you wouldn't have that on psilocybin mushrooms.

[@AcrylicGoblin]

@@brbbiobreak on reflection, you are correct. As long as you know why you can't move it's not so bad. In fact, I've taken ketamine a couple of times and I couldn't move my body. I just didn't give a damn. I wonder what was outside my window, assuming it wasn't some random meaningless dream entity. I remember going from thinking "I am going to f*** you up" to "OMG I'm paralyzed and I'm about to get f***** up"

[@australienski6687]

It's nothing like sleep paralysis

[@Kilo-Clutch]

I wonder if certain people have a predisposition to getting this paralysis. It seems like it's a reocurring thing for the people who have experienced it. At least from what im reading in these comments.

[@Netuttobilo88]

I had WLP last year before knowing about it. What an experience) It lasted 2 days. I did not know what to think and moreover didn’t want to tell anyone that I’m learning to walk, eat and breathe again) Sin and laughter) Thanks God all is fine now! P.S. Keep your mind calm!

[@Azi282]

Wood lovers paralysis is very real, tho i'd refer more to it as a central nervous system glitch. I dried some Psilocybin cyanescens picked from my back garden on wood chips. 3hrs in I had less than 5% cognitive ability and when i even gathered strength, i could think clear how to move but nothing is moving, i wanna move but all signals to my limbs were just pure weakness for round 8 hrs of no strength whatsoever i'd occasionally get sudden jolts of uncontrollable shaking, which was comfort cause I'm moving even if the were random spasms, it faded slowly over the course of a few days , i still couldn't muster the cognitive strength to put my limbs where i wanted them to be 3 days later,, i don't know what Parkinson's disease is like but the symptoms resembled in my experience 100%that of some kind of temporary central nervous system drunkenness. i had wondered maybe it happened because of type of wood chips adding in the local grounds keeper spraying chems onto the wood chips., later found out i had a few thoughts on why i was so dead weighted. was never scared until i started thinking if my body is this weak could my heart slow etc. i just road it out for days and gradually was getting strength back. .recap. From ingestion to complete 100% body functioning well enough to play musical instruments and work again was 6 days with still a tiny tiny weakness. Recovering from that cognitive disturbance made me appreciate the ability to move on command so much more. Never scared me from psilocybin. all is good and well, i continue to explore and try all kinds of species thanks for the video

[@CyberVeggie]

I have taken multiple high doses before and once on a high dose of P. Cubensis (B+ I believe) I experienced temporary paralysis. I had taken around 7G and I was not able to move besides laying face down on my couch and hardly able to pull my body with my hands occasionally. Only happened once though very scary and definitely the worst trip I've had but still learned some great lessons from it

[@CyberVeggie]

@BuildGUYhuge difference between not feeling like moving and not being able to move. Haha lol you were just tripping balls 🤣 jk rofl 🤣 I've tripped 9001 times on my strain

[@Speedojesus]

@BuildGUY Except that's the point, that it might be a thing with one's mental state or how psilocin or other DMT related compounds interact with some individuals' brains rather than a compound specifically produced by species that colonize certain woods.

[@fourshore502]

why would you take 7G? lol

[@CyberVeggie]

@@fourshore502 sometimes for a very introspective trip a mega dose is exactly what you need. Definitely not for beginners or faint of heart but you will learn some lessons during it if that is your intention

[@fourshore502]

@@CyberVeggie ok i thought 5G was enough for that

[@SpotlightShowdown]

Wood Lovers could possibly be a breakthrough in treating patients suffering from severe spasticity. Even if it's just short term to provide a sense of relieve from painful and over active muscles. Just a thought.

[@djbabyjesus8381]

I think someone is looking into the Paralytic effects medicinally because they think the compound in question is too big to cross the blood brain barrier so it only effects the body and not the heart and lungs. So for surgery or other procedures requiring the nerves to be shut off with out the danger of stoping the heart or breathing could be quite the break though.

[@kookamunga2458]

Just stick to what know . I don't try all the exotic types just the ones I know.

[@SonofTheMorningStar666]

👍🍄

[@FreshCapMushrooms]

thanks for watching!

[@thecatsbackyard4833]

This is why I'll never do P-Subs or Wavies.

[@TheFarmacist]

I get the paralysis from penis envys. My body goes numb and legs are shaky and hard to stand up. Sometimes I feel extremely warm and fuzzy inside and almost like my whole body tenses up. It doesn't feel bad just weird. Extremely intense trip!! The penis envy makes my penis go numb also I can't even feel it 😅

[@djbabyjesus8381]

I know exactly what you are talking about. Thats different than WLP. Thats more due to methylated versions of psilocin. They can cause you to feel lethargic.

[@jonnyhash707]

I happened to experience this phenomenon last night. I ate wild picked cyans one day and had an amazing day. The next time however I lost all use of my legs, partial use of arms and hands and my mouth had a hard time chewing properly. My wife had to wipe my mouth like I was a baby. It was quite scary indeed. I had gone to the local 7-Eleven late at night. Had an episode in the parking lot where my legs gave out. I had to ask a total stranger to get in my car pull up next to me so I could crawl into my passenger seat. All the while the owner of the 7-Eleven was blaring pavarotti as loud as he possibly could. I figured he was doing this to keep away homeless people. But I'll tell you what, while waiting there for an hour and a half for my friend to come pick me up. I almost started crying from this shear frustration of not being able to turn down that music. Loud opera and mushroom trips do not mix. I continued to experience the effects throughout the evening and into the next morning. I would be able to get up for a few minutes, make something to eat. Go to the bathroom, stuff like that. But then it would just happen without warning. I would suddenly collapse onto the ground face on the floor. My dogs would come and keep me company and warm until my wife found me lying flat on the floor in our bedroom doorway. Be careful anyone who wants to play around with wood loving mushrooms.

[@1hitwoon99]

how much did you take ?

[@PerspectivePossibilities]

I experienced this from cubes (PE) Most terrifying experienceof my entire life, pissed myself & everything 😅& ive tripped 40+ times 🤣

[@PerspectivePossibilities]

35 gs wet, so 3.5 dry

[@brandonboulton2776]

Interesting. I was suspicious of baocistin as the paralysis.

[@banehog]

Paralysis?!? Pffft - I experienced *death* on magic mushrooms. Paralysis is the least of your worries!

[@dzonnyblue3065]

this is what happens only with Strongest Types .....don't fly too high and go back to Shit Lovers Cubes !

[@staza02]

happened to my hands and the left side of my face, didnt know about the paralysis, so im sitting there tripping thinking im having a stroke, was trying to open and close my hands and they were stuck like half way closed, and my left side of my face was just not working i was slurring my words so hard.

[@eustoncowboy]

I’ve found over 2000 gold top magic mushrooms this season, around my local suburb in Melbourne Australia. Usually in park garden beds with chip wood covering. My last 3 trips I’ve had this temporary paralysis, struggling to walk, use my hands and even eat. I was with a good friend first time and we were having so much fun I just laughed the whole time. It’s a concern but seems to be temporary. I’ll continue to take them until they’re all gone but will be staying home when I do so. Lie down and enjoy the ride.

[@themoon6178]

With gold top mushrooms? This doesn’t happen with cubensis tho

[@eustoncowboy]

@@themoon6178 Yes I suspect you are right as cubensis is not a "wood loving species". Australian Psilocybe subaeruginosa Commonly called "gold tops" here in Melbourne, love rotting wood as a habitat, but not exclusively. Most of the ones I found were in public garden beds with older wood chip coverage. Good news is I had a high dose today, 7 grams dried. Not really any paralysis this time. Maybe a slight weakness in my left hand I noticed as I rolled a blunt for sleep after it wore off.

[@PerspectivePossibilities]

​@@themoon6178it happened to me from cubes (PE) 35 gs wet, so 3.5 dry. They were blobs, so supposedly more potent. It was a terrible experience. Really the only bad experience I've had of my many many trips.

[@z0quetee]

This, on a low scale, happened to me eating russula mushrooms (there were also 3 chroogomphus rutilus, but I doubt they cause it). We harvested them in a pine tree forest and made an omelette out of them. 20 minutes later we had blurred vision and two of us had difficulty moving around. Legs were not responsive. I was the most affected one and had sporadic numbess feelings on my hands, feets and sometimes face during 2 or 3 weeks. The other 3 who ate were fine after a couple of hours and had no more syntoms.

[@FreshCapMushrooms]

Weird! Thanks for sharing your story. I have never heard of it coming from Russula's (or anything other than wood loving psilocybe's ) but again, we know so little about it! The mystery deepens....

[@sventer198]

@@FreshCapMushrooms i disagree with you. It could be bacterial. Most gourmet mushrooms are grilled or cooked for quite a bit of time, while most psilocybin containing mushrooms are either consumed raw or added at the end of the cooking process to preserve the psilocybin content as much as possible. Cooking could be destroying a bacteria in the gourmet mushroom that causes wood lover’s paralysis.

[@Seether97]

I believe you may have falsely identifed a russula as a gymnopilus purpuratus witch is does contain Aeruginascin

[@nyezar717]

@@sventer198 I thought you use a dehydrator on magic mushrooms wouldn’t that kill bacteria? Idk I’m just guessing

[@goodun2974]

​@@FreshCapMushrooms, A guy I talked to at a mushroom club meeting said he had a friend who tried taking Big Laughing Gym, which may or may not contain psilocybin but supposedly has some hallucinogenic or delirium-inducing compounds, and he said that his friend couldn't move his legs for several hours but that was the only effect. Laughing Gym only grows on decaying wood...

[@mma3314]

I had wood lovers paralysis my first time doing mushrooms this past Wednesday, I thought I was going to fucking die, but I had to remind myself that I am under a major psychedelic, so I started to calm down, and thankfully, within that two hours my body started to realign itself, and since then aside from a minor panic attack from smoking a blunt hours afterwards, I actually feel better than ever, it’s weird. I’m just feeling so limitless and fearless at this point.

[@pizzaparty-r1c]

I only consume psilocybe azurescens mushrooms. I had Wood Lovers Paralysis on 5 different occasions. The first one freaked me out, as I did not know about Wood Lovers Paralysis at the time. The other 4 times I was really calm because I knew what was happening. I actually enjoyed those trips and just went along for the ride. It is very relaxing if you expect it and stay calm. I laid out on a hammock during a beautiful partly cloudy day on my last trip. Thought i was in heaven. It will pass. Enjoy it. 😉

[@BushyHairedStranger]

Fresh picked P.Azurescens & P. Cyanescens have what has been coined the “Rip Van Winkle Effect” It’s that initial euphoric transition high, the sleepy reverie, lots of hallucinatory yawning & deep breaths... A Forester from Eugene, Oregon coined this term in the early 1990’s. His ame is Guske grew up with the Pranksters.

[@ClipzTDOT]

Ive had paralysis for 5min off 1g of apes. Its all fun and games until it gets hard to breath

[@1hitwoon99]

this

[@pineapplepileus8719]

I’ve heard taking Benadryl is one that’s stops it or if you take it beforehand will make it not come on but I don’t remember the reasoning behind it

[@FreshCapMushrooms]

Simon did mention that it is possible that aeruginascin releases histamine, so that could be the reason

[@djbabyjesus8381]

@@FreshCapMushrooms Yo! djbabyjesus here....I'm the guy that came up with he whole histamine hypothesis in the first place! lol. Let me clear the air about that. Originally back in 05, a friend ate some cyanescens and experienced mild WLP. Thinking that maybe they were having an allergic reaction they took Benadryl and said it worked. Later I tried it for full blown WLP, and it worked. I incorrectly assumed it was because it was an antihistamine, posted it on the shroomery and thus the whole histamine rabbit hole was born. This theory has be thoroughly debunked. It was never really a real theory more of a mistake about the mechanism of action of Benadryl. Benadryl is an anticholinergic, This is why it works for WLP.

[@dummkompf]

I wonder if this has been responsible for any mysterious deaths or disappearances in the woods. People eat the shrooms and get paralysis and then die of exposure because they can't set up camp or a fire or put on warm clothes and get into their sleeping bag when they're paralyzed

[@BushyHairedStranger]

None that have been reported here in the Pacific Northwest (Oregon & Washington)

[@dummkompf]

@@BushyHairedStranger I mean, they wouldn't have known about the mushroom consumption. so it wouldn't be reported that way. It would just be reported as a mysterious death or a missing person

[@rhyshatton9338]

Had this a couple years ago with 20 p.subs. wasn't too strong as I was able to pull myself up after falling off a chair. I did have trouble breathing but that's because I had alot of snot and mucus in my nose and mouth but couldn't really blow my nose. It only lasted maybe an hour or two and has only ever happened once.

[@Quincyhk]

I prefer to just get cubensis

[@BushyHairedStranger]

Paul Stamets was awarded a DEA License to work with Psilocybin & I expect Aeruganascin & Bufotenine this year. I’ve reached out to inquire upon researching this Wood Lovers Paralysis phenomenon since it’s a curious element to at least 4 PNW Saprophytic Psilocybe strains.

[@ralbiruni]

I am not surprized that eat poisonous mushrooms is not healthly.

[@stephenbrennan4508]

I had it on San Pedro cactus and large doses of psilocybe wararoa new zealandii

[@littlewhitebirdie7414]

It takes a lot of bioelectricity to trip. I hypothesize if someone isn't hydrated properly with enough electrolytes, they can cramp up and maybe experience this "wood lovers paralysis"

[@Indigobluehues333]

What if it’s the spirit of the tree (wood)? If I was a tree it would feel like I was stiff and rigid not able to move.

[@Dewey_Boondye420]

i like this theory 💜

[@raheem8086]

Fact's the tree's spirit has taken over your body each thing has a spirit

[@fourshore502]

its the mushroom getting back at you for eating it "now you will feel what its like not being able to move!"

[@jimbob9086]

Have experienced this twice on high dose trips with 7g golden teacher and 10g blue meanie (the p. Cubensis kind). Happens during the peak (about 3-4 hours after eating) no issues swallowing though. Still scary stuff.

[@RumoredAtmos]

This happened to me but it only affected my legs and arms, I bought mushrooms and took them in the morning went on a walk and hours later my legs and arms felt numb and I had to walk two miles home it was very painful

[@bengtal]

Benadryl I think is pharmacologically related to deleriant tropane alkaloids like those in Datura, Brugmansia, Nutmeg, etc... I might be mixing groups that are not totally related, but I definitely remember trying to take psychoactive amounts of Benadryl in high school (almost 20 years ago now, geez) and experiencing very unpleasant but significant effects. Maybe there is some pharmacological function going on even at moderate doses that would help someone experiencing WLP, I don't know, but what alarms me is that some of the symptoms described in WLP, namely the difficulty swallowing, is something I experienced years ago when I took too much Benadryl.

[@lukecoplen8033]

Hello,I'm a 47 yr old male that just loves to eat mushrooms. I live in Oregon coast USA. And I've been picking wavy caps and boofing them.well the first time I ate about 3g's and tripped pretty good with no adverse effects but on trip number 2 and 3 I had wood lovers paralysis. The first time was very mild but the 2nd time I had this I ate almost 4 GS dry and it happens the next day,my hands wouldn't FUKN work. Kinda freaked me out a Little.my head was very cloudy with almost full function off both hands for almost all day better by day 2

[@WiryaNikkhah-cc1wx]

I am writing this comment while I just came back from an intense WLP(I wish and prepared to die), I am very familiar with psychedelic and I am growing my own mushroom from the porse, I used Golden Teacher (Psilocybe cubensis) in my case I digested them fresh ,please bring the hypothesis of bacteria effect back on the table. Because in my case there is the only explanation for it.🙏

[@michaelpoggi8064]

Didn't know this was a thing..5 gram PE trip. Made my arms and legs felt long and scissor like . My body extremely heavy. Felt like my limbs were partially paralyzed. 2 hours and gone.

[@doctoribanez]

That's why I only eat manure loving mushrooms.

[@trippe_psychedoninstagram6574]

I appreciate your comment

[@jasonc8910]

Love your products.

[@1hitwoon99]

WLP can be deadyl !! I have proof !!! I am the roof actually. I had to be revived at the hospital. My heart stopped beating. I could not breath!!!!

[@chelseahamilton8235]

Yes my friend Almost died too! She couldn’t breathe either. Was so scary. I had to breathe for her till help arrived! Then thankfully she came good.

[@1hitwoon99]

@@chelseahamilton8235 How did you breath for her. That sounds scary. I will never eat Wood lovers again!

[@chelseahamilton8235]

@@1hitwoon99 mouth to mouth. She tells me it helped. she was conscious, but not at the same time I don’t know how else to explain it. It was horrible. I actually have PTSD now

[@vsalt69]

Thank you for demystifying something I've been hearing about for years!

[@Abovedamatrix3352]

I want to eat species like wavy caps or Azuresense, but the paralysis part from these mushrooms are scary.

[@kylegivler8372]

Yeah but the gourmet mushrooms are normally cooked before eating right? How many people cook their psilocybes?

[@SketchybrainD]

A girl I took cyanescens with got it, It was dried and powdered, they came from a private established patch. I took twice as much as her. As we came down she was laying down half asleep in my bed and tried to get up and couldn’t She couldn’t talk well either, I thought she was playing until she peed in my bed and I seen panic in her eyes, I had heard of it before but it didn’t even cross my mind at the time, I called an ambulance. She was fine after a few hours. But she was down for maybe 3-4 hours Like I said though, it was powdered, I did it with a coffee grinder and I ran it thru a couple times. I took 2g. She took one gram. She got it I didn’t I got a weird abdominal contraction that bent me over for a few seconds after I carried her to the living room But it went away quick

[@joesadaka2534]

So what i dont get about the aeruginascin hypothesis is if aeruginascin is similar to psilocybin, are we claiming that woodlovers produce aeruginascin and cubensis doesnt? Or is aeruginascin a metabolic product of psilocybin?

[@mushroomsofnepal]

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[@cleanstreamrockhounding]

Me and my friends experienced this exact thing, we couldn’t move for hours and it was weird! Not really scary, just awkward

[@SubFlow22]

Never had it. Maybe that's why I never get wood after consuming magic mushrooms.

[@jeffhays1968]

So does not occur with Psilocin derived from other mushrooms, or as far as I read, 4-aco-dmt. The idea that somehow the psilocin in wood lovers is the cause seems defective.

[@this-abledtheextravertedhe5299]

I bet it has to do with the chemicals that keep you from moving while dreaming. 🤷‍♀️🤔

[@gardenwaster]

that makes sense to me, it may be a defence mechanism

[@fourshore502]

its been several days now since my trip and i still feel kinda like im in a dreaming state like im not quite woken up, so maybe theresa connection

[@kidusyohannes5555]

It’s real trust me I will never do them agin iam from Australia it was the worst day off my life and I have tripled heaps off times I ened up in hospital got out after 6 hrs it also didn’t kick in tell the next day and for every one who says dose dependent matters it dosnt coz I had 2 the next month and I got paralysed agin I do believe it has something to do with we’re it grows

[@junkettarp8942]

“Wood Lovers Paralysis”....That happened to a friend of mine once.

[@occupiedaustralia9952]

5 years ago I had a whole heap of magic mushrooms here in Adelaide South Australia , I got the paralysis and my neighbour phoned the ambulance after I dragged myself to the front door . When I was in hospital I couldn't reach out for a drink of water the Dr kept saying "grab it and drink it " ! He thought I was still high , anyway they sent me home in a taxi , when I got through the front door I fell over and hit a cupboard and hurt my shoulder and had to drag myself into the bedroom and it took 45 mins to do so . It was funny in one respect when I went to hospital I asked the nurse did it seem like everyone had big ears and funny hats and had a greenish tinge , and she assured me that was the case because it was Halloween . I'm a big healthy looking bloke and the ambulance staff kept on saying to me climb on the stretcher but i couldn't or they were too lazy.

[@prestonhubble7729]

That theory doesn't stand because once you change one thing on a molecule it changes the whole molecule and that could be moving around molecule placements if that's the case sugar and arsenic look almost identical if you move them around

[@AllenFarnsworth-x7d]

Me an my sons mother had this happen while camping oohh the memories 😢😅

[@yallokin2944]

I think the paralysis also depends on the amount taken. I have also had Woodlover's Paralysis three times and have harvested Psilocybe Cyanescens in Germany. I have a grow site that I have been consuming for 4 years . In the last three years I have never had paralysis from the fungi. Just this year paralysis occurred in several cases. I wonder what is responsible for the increased cases this year. The growing conditions were excellent this year. The paralysis occurred after consuming over 2.7 grams. I would be interested to know how high the dosages were for those of you who have experienced this!

[@1hitwoon99]

ich hab 14 g gegessen und bin im Krankenhaus gestorben und musste wiederbelebt werden! Das war 2022. WLP ist kein joke!

[@yallokin2944]

@@1hitwoon99 14 g getrocknet? Das sind etwa 200mg Indolalkaloid. Das ist eine 8fache mittelstarke Dosis, den die liegt bei etwa 25mg. Oder waren deine frisch? Bei 14g getrockneten Cyanescens ist es klar, dass man abklappt. Ich glaube, dass auch die Häufigkeit des Konsums eine Rolle spielt. Denn nur ich und ein Kollege hatten die Paralysen und wir haben sehr oft genascht. Bei einer meiner Paralysen waren meine Beine und Hände betroffen. Da war nix mit ein Zigarettchen drehen oder zum WC gehen. Mich interessiert ob wirklich der Herzmuskel betroffen werden kann. Ich danke Dir für deine Antwort 👍. Ich bin auch der Meinung dass auch das Alter und die Größe des Pilzes eine Rolle spielt, aufgrund der Alkaloidzusammmensetzung, es schien nur eine spezielle Charge gewesen zu sein die WLP ausgelöst hat und, dass waren alte und große Pilze ! Gut, dass Du das überlebt hast und scheinbar nicht alleine warst!

[@1hitwoon99]

@@yallokin2944 Das waren 14 g trocken! Ich hab die Monate zuvor ungefähr 50 g wavy Caps und ca 100 g Cubensis (alles trocken) konsumiert. An dem besagten Abend war ich alleine.. Ich bin zu Hause fast gestorben. Ich konnte für gut 10 - 20 Sekunden nicht atmen. Doch dann ging es plötzlich wieder. ich hab dann 2 Stunden später einen Krankenwagen gerufen, da ich beim einschlafen aufhörte zu atmen. Das ist grad die kurze Version von dem was passiert ist. Ich war bereits nüchtern als ich im KH ankam. Dort war ich weitere 5 Std. und bin dann letzendlich vor den Füßen des Artztes gestorben, weil ich nicht mehr einatmen konnte. Ich finde es so gefährlich, dass darüber kaum aufgeklärt wird. Und ich bin unendlich dankbar, dass ich keine bleibenden Schäden davon getragen habe. Trip save! :D

[@1hitwoon99]

@@yallokin2944 Was sind Indolalkaloid? Ich hab für 3 Monate alle ca. 5 Tage hohe Dosen zu mir genommen. Dadurch hatte ich eine hohe Tolleranz aber auch mehrere "Durchbrüche". Es war das schönste was ich je erlebt habe auf diesen "Durchbrüchen". Naja... und dann kam der besagte Abend.

[@yodab.at1746]

"wood lovers paralysis"? Sounds like something to do with amyl nitrate to me...

[@steelreserve9050]

Had this happen to my bottom lip doing azuresens very traumatic experience

[@sanbe729]

Been there, with body contortions etc. crazy stuff, my joints (elbows and knees) are now deformed from the contortions. psilocybe subaegerinosa

[@viciousdope66]

Great video! I’ve never heard of this Syndrome, but it’s very interesting (and simultaneously frightening as hell…). I subscribed to your channel and hope to see you continue making this type of content.

[@trippe_psychedoninstagram6574]

I appreciate your comment

[@michaellauchenauer6117]

it is not reported unfortunately but the paralysis can absolutely come from cubensis, IF they are grown on wood. (which is hard to do)

[@djbabyjesus8381]

false.

[@NateTheSainte]

thanks for scaring me away from my trip soon

[@Dewey_Boondye420]

ikr lol

[@jessicawilliamson1230]

I don’t know what kind of shrooms I tripped on but 2 out of 3 times I tripped, I immediately felt snatched out of my body. I felt very heavy. Was walking to the bathroom, and thankfully my my mom and son were there to pick me up and hold me on the toilet bc I was like a limp noodle. Not enjoyable. Funny thing is, I even feel this on acid, to a slightly lesser degree. Through all of my attempts to become more spiritual through psychedelics, it only made me feel more disconnected and alien. I didn’t see or hear anything, other than distorted depth perception. I kept my eyes closed bc it was too bright. I felt more alone than ever and gained no insight. It may have increased my anxiety and insecurities. I guess I am just wired differently.

[@DanielHKhalid]

Perhaps, even in your loneliness, there were important lessons and insights to ponder. I believe there are reasons for reflection in every aspect of life - both when tripping and when sober.

[@HRpckzz]

Fuckinh cap bruh been having wood lovers for months bro it’s gotta be some else huh

[@adventuresofamadman9992]

I've had it twice in my life. Last time was just part of my face. It was hilarious

[@Bob-kf4fc]

I got stuck to a brick wall for 2 hours down the side of a pub on magic mushrooms..

[@gregmcb5305]

They just discovered Aeruginascin in some cubesnsis too! Look up Oakland hyphe test result. For the people that get it next day and not instantly it might be from eithor an active metabolite of Aeruginascin or maybe from histamine.

[@SlaveKnightGael]

I've never heard psilocybe pronounced like that

[@MegaCharns]

wtf is this guy saying psilosbee,, can u read mate?

[@russelfetter9672]

OMG thank you for this video. This happened to my roommate 1 year ago. My roommate Lemmon trekked 3.5 grams of mushrooms and was paralyzed for an entire night. He is completely fine now.

[@Gunjaroo]

SLUG JUICE…my money is on slugs

[@davidbrewer8309]

He says "sill os bee" but then says psilocybin. Bruh figure it out

[@stephenconlin667]

Mushrooms can not harm you; however they will make you think that they can. The trip starts and ends in your head. Spirituality is about self awareness, sometimes you just gotta stop and look...

[@djbabyjesus8381]

Poisonous Mushrooms can harm you.... People need to be aware of the dangers of certain types of mushrooms don't you think?

[@mukhumor]

Maybe it has something to do with not decarbing the mushrooms.

[@ncabby]

Me- oh cool only 2hrs thats not bad Him- too 3 days Me-glad i did not stop the video at that point lol

[@vickimatthis6527]

I experienced this in the Pacific NW. Was very hard to walk . hold my head up and swallow. Was able to get benadryl and Lorazapam. In my system. Within 20 = 30 mins. the paralysis was gone. Very Weird.

[@BushyHairedStranger]

Bufotenine seems the most likely alkaloid to cause this misplaced sensation which is actually vasoconstriction not true paralysis…vasoconstriction can be compared to paralysis in it effects by Psilocin influenced perception. It “feels” like paralysis, the bodily sensation is similar..not unlike very high doses of N2O.

[@australienski6687]

First time it happened to me I thought I was having a stroke.

[@1hitwoon99]

I took like 7 to 14 g of wavy caps and cubes every 3 to 4 days for 10 weeks or more ( it was beatifull). One day my legs stopped working. And my breathing stopped too. I almost died . Hours later I called an ambulance cause I could not sleep. My breathing just would stop whenever I fell asleep. I was already sober for like 5 to 10 hours. I was at the hospital. The doctors said that I am fine and that I should go home. I was sober but I still could not sleep and breath. When the Taxi came I lost control of my legs again just like at home before. Then I stopped breathing again just like at home before. Then my heart stopped beating. This time I died. The doctors imediatly strated to bring me back to life. I was dead for 1 minute. The doctors appolegized for not beliving me the next day. My english sucks cause I am from Germany. WLP is real. Please trip safe.

[@chelseahamilton8235]

This happened to my friend last weekend. I had to breathe for her till help arrived! So scary.

[@billc3114]

Like the death angel? Paralysis of the heart.