Used this formulation yesterday and it is bloody amazing! I used half a litre of acid with ethyl and it started really kicking in within about 30 minutes - my finished project is a square metre of angle and flat steel as well as a load of 1 inch square tube, about 50kg weight in total. The reaction surprised me, my workpiece got very warm to the touch. Definitely a job for outside and not the garage, this morning there was a patch of horrible black gunk stuck to the road/footpath outside the house. What WAS surprising was the effect the spray had on the mill scale - I'd previously only cleaned the parts that needed welding so there was a lot of scale. This morning it was at least 95% gone. Also the galvanised tube had been stripped clean. So this is definately a go-to method for welding prep, way cleaner and safer than using muriatic, and lots cheaper and less effort than grinding. The metal was left with a coating of black grit, a coarse sandpaper texture. This came off easily with light steel-brushing. I've applied a coat of epoxy primer to one side and it looks immaculate, no bumpy bits, dead flat. So I'd give this methods a huge thumbs up. I've just ordered a litre of phosphoric online, definitely worth keeping some handy.
@justahandchannel3 ай бұрын
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@wiresmith23989 ай бұрын
At a chemical level, phosphoric acid is attacking the iron oxide and converting it into ferric phosphate. The ethyl alcohol is not doing much of anything - but it serves as a wonderful way to dilute the acid. The resulting black stuff is Ferric Phosphate, and is fairly rust resistant and acid resistant, but not terribly water resistant. If you want to spend the time and make everything clean at this point, the Ferric Phosphate mineral salt accumulation should be a lot easier to remove than rust, and once you're down to clean metal you can apply any sort of surface treatment. For areas that are not exposed to water frequently, just leaving the ferric phosphate may produce the desired rust resistance. For areas that ARE exposed to water (which can dissolve and penetrate ferric phosphate) a polyurethane coating should serve admirably to prevent further damage. My personal thought is that the ferric phosphate - the black textured leftovers of phosphoric acid - is rather attractive and nicely chemically inert. I have done a couple of trailer frames with it and just hosed on rustoleum or POR-15 and had decent results. Nothing is perfect, nothing lasts forever. But! Killing rust and sealing the affected area can really slow down the ravages of time.
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
It definitely has a purpose. Try with and without
@wiresmith23989 ай бұрын
@@justahandchannel absolutely! I have a '77 dodge plow truck that's got some serious rust remediation coming, I'll do some mixing and testing!
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
Glad to be of help
@craigmckee29658 ай бұрын
Cool thanks 😊
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
No problem
@pmcg78239 ай бұрын
You are on the right track. Im an industrial chemist and 40 years ago i worked in a company producing rust removers and other interesting stuff. We produced something equivalent to Jenolite at that time. The key ingredients are the phosphoric and the solvent. Alcohol works. Obviously kerosene and water insoluble solvents dont. It forms a passive film that can be over painted. As another commenter said if there is heavy rust scale it only converts the surface so thick or loose rust is still better removed mechanically. Back in the day I experimented with rinsing or not rinsing after a few days and as long as the film is dry it doesnt make a difference to paint adhesion. Phosphoric is slow to burn, so it wont damage your hands much, but its bad for your eyes especially with the alcohol in..... Safety first. The Philippines ER isnt where you want to be :) Or the vet......
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment.
@grahamadams82758 ай бұрын
What a great post. Thank you
@louieestonanto6045Ай бұрын
The process of dissolving rust and other metals is called chelation. Weak acids (weak in the sense that they’re not strong acids like hydrochloric acid that not all their ions disassociate in water) like phosporic acid, oxalic acid, citric acid and acetic acid AKA vinegar will all react with rust (FE2O3) and other metal oxides like water streaks (calcium deposit) to remove the metal from oxygen and keep the metal ion suspended in solution. However since these are still acids they will still attack the base metal. This also happens when you cook acidic food in metal cookware, part of the metal ends up in your food - this is the reason why cooking on a cast iron pan increases the iron in your food because using it literally chips away at your pan bit by bit. What you can do to minimize attacking the metal through acid action is adding a weak base to the solution like sodium carbonate (Na2CO3) to bring the pH closer to neutral so the solution only attacks the metal oxide. This is actually how Evaporust works.
@johnwalters45088 ай бұрын
Thankyou mate. I love people like you. Big companies sell with little to no results sometimes cos at the end of the day they will tell you what they want you to hear. Cheers
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
No problem 👍
@AA-gj3kt9 ай бұрын
Just what I need, I'm going to try it. My battle with rust is never ending. Thanks for clear common sense instructions! 👍😄👍!!
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
You're welcome
@terryatpi9 ай бұрын
Rust never sleeps
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
You can win against it if you do it right
@dhgmllcshea50388 ай бұрын
Took a class on automotive refinishing. They suggested a phosphoric acid treatment before painting. The iron/phosphorous black is microscopically shaped like a layer of hay and promotes paint adhesion.
@506curtis8 ай бұрын
good to know thanks
@tonylee9388 ай бұрын
Are you suppose to sand off the iron/ phosphorus black before applying paint?
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
It's not necessary. You can if you want to make it smoother.
@dhgmllcshea50386 ай бұрын
@@tonylee938 no, it's microscopic "hay" and much smaller than your paint layer
@mattruth7785 ай бұрын
Lol I use a acid primer for bare metal it's used industrially for aluminium surface adhesion also a protestant layer from oxygen getting to the metals surface which would create rust and delamination of the metal it works well verry expensive though
@mattsonic98247 ай бұрын
Mate the formula works great! I mixed up a bottle and sprayed my rusty trailer and now it's ready for a paint job. I used Methylated spirits instead of ethanol and it seems to work just fine. I've been buying rust converters for $20 for 250ml in australia and your formula works better and way cheaper. Thanks for sharing the magic formula.
@justahandchannel7 ай бұрын
You're welcome. I'm glad to help!
@oo0Spyder0oo8 ай бұрын
I use a product which has phosphorus in it and I rub down any areas after I’ve wire wheeled the heavy stuff off. It works great. Helps the paint bind to it as well.
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Yes, it etches the metal as well
@dcguenter8 ай бұрын
KZbin is very strange sometimes... I would say that at least 80% of what I watch on YT (I have no cable TV) is restoring old cars and travel channels about the Philippines. Channels such as Fitzee's Fabrications, Uncle Tony's Garage, Dead Dodge Garage on the auto restoration side and Old Dog, Sunshine Shoulders, Q Adventures, The Regular Guy on the Philippines, and yet it appears to have taken a long time for YT's algorithm to put two & two together for me to serve up your channel! And to top it all off, I'm a Mopar guy. Anyways, glad your channel popped up in my feed and I will check it out. Cheers from a fellow Ontarion.
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
I'm glad you finally found my channel. You're right about the algorithm. It's hard to get myself out there
@ddearinger89628 ай бұрын
Same here.. appreciate your video and Texas is in The house.. Very grateful for the info! . I have the cheapo expanded metal table and chairs that have the rust thing going on, so will try your formula. Any thoughts of using muratic acid instead, since I have it on hand. And did I understand correctly that there is no need to rinse, must wire brush and seal, before painting?
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
You are correct, there is no need to rinse or neutralize the formula. Muriatic acid can do the job, but you have to be very careful. How long you leave it on for it and to neutralize it properly. If you don't do things just perfect, then you will regret using it. If any of the acid remains, then it could ruin your paint down the road
@leee.williamspa50978 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great tip Bud! I did exactly as per your directions and it works great "at a fraction of the cost". Cheers, Lee
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@dyingforpie68797 ай бұрын
Good day sir - i used this method on my hood hinges and springs- bought a gallon jug of 85 percent food grade and diluted to a 30 percent solution and a 45 minute soak and picked up a hinge and said repeatedly no f ing way! They look brand new! ( i did clean dirt/grease off first with oven cleaner) im sold! Thanks bud
@justahandchannel7 ай бұрын
That's great. I'm happy to help!
@kolsen63306 ай бұрын
There is some stuff called OSPHO. Its been used in the marine trades for years. Just spray it on with a squirt bottle, bonds with rust to prevent any further rusting. It can be painted over and doesnt need to be washed off or neutralized. Spray on and let dry then paint. If you spray new steel in a ballast tank on a boat, it will last for 2 or 3 years in salt water before you need to spray some more on and the steel will look like new steel with no signs of corrosion. In a boat tank, we usually used floor mops, the string type to apply it. Used it on the frame of my 87 F150 before I painted it. Any major paint supplier should carry it, if not, find a marine paint supplier.
@justahandchannel6 ай бұрын
........and now you know how to make it yourself.
@tsr71988 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this no nonsense video on rust remediation.
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
You are very welcome!
@berserkerusmc76138 ай бұрын
Wow! That's the best rust converter I've seen. Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it!
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
I spent years looking for the right solution. I'm glad to share it with you
@goonluv8 ай бұрын
Nice one will try this. Hi from the uk
@daveallen77672 ай бұрын
Just a note - glad you poured the acid into water, not the other way around. Always pour acid in water, do it opposite & it may react, foam up & spray out onto your eyes & face. Can't wait to use this formula. Looks better than the products sold for this purpose, and no more plugged nozzles on spray cans !
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@stevezodiac5752 ай бұрын
Hey great video - such a simple way to treat rust and prepare a rusty surface for painting! I look forward to trying this out! Thank you for sharing!👍
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@mj-mr5yu9 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this, I purchased a spray can to deal with some lightly pitted areas on a tractor bonnet I did last year (that I couldn't clean up right with my angle grinder and wire brush) and paid 35 euro for it, it did exactly the same job you just did here at a fraction of the cost. That acid is sold here as milk stone remover for use in dairy equipment, all the best to you sir from Co mayo ireland, 🇮🇪
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!!
@mj-mr5yu8 ай бұрын
@@justahandchannel the pleasures all mine, it's great to see people like yourself that have knowledge of this stuff and are willing to share it, big industry won't make this info available that's for sure! All the best ,👍
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
I believe that method is effective. However, it would be more efficient to use phosphoric acid directly instead of the entire Coca-Cola composition. As far as I can tell, phosphoric acid is the only active ingredient in this case. The effectiveness of carbonated water and sugar in this situation is uncertain.
@SKATETOSLAYER2 ай бұрын
I'm glad to have stumbled upon this video, no more wasting my money on overpriced metal prep. Thank you for the PSA. It's funny, I was literally thinking about how I should see if I can just buy phosphoric acid instead and this video popped up on my feed. Things just work out that way.
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
Certainly. I am happy to assist. Thanks for your support
@Beaniecool1232 ай бұрын
Can you use it all over the car or just under the hood ?
@gudgengrebe7 ай бұрын
For someone like me, this is like magic! I’ve just bought a second hand car that has a few small rust spots that I can now treat and I’ll have a go at the underside too. Thanks so much for sharing this.👍
@justahandchannel7 ай бұрын
You're very welcome!
@byronrichards30017 ай бұрын
Nice upload Sir, I plan on using your solution to treat the frame on my lincoln town car. Your knowledge and experience is very much appreciated. Keep informing the people...
@justahandchannel7 ай бұрын
Thanks. I plan to make more content like this. Stay tuned.
@fposmith8 ай бұрын
Dry Ice blasting is lightening fast and works and is safe on "everything" It dries almost instantly and works like "magic" ! It's a little pricey, but when you need it right now, it's worth it ! It also removes old cooked on grease and oil on engines , transmissions and rear ends ! The first time I used it, I could not believe my eyes !
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
There are various approaches to addressing rust issues. During my years in the media blasting industry, I discovered that crushed glass and plastic media are highly effective for vehicles that have undergone multiple body jobs and paint over the years. These media effectively remove all materials. However, it is important to note that this method may not be financially feasible or practical for many individuals and in many situations. I use the rust spray quite frequently as it's quick and easy.
@mclifer7 ай бұрын
The only place in metro Detroit area doing dry ice cleaning wants $1000.00 to do the underside of a car.
@ZBrink117 ай бұрын
Dry ice blast is amazing but people are charging $3k+ in many areas for the underside of a vehicle.
@Susan700035 ай бұрын
Is that a do it yourself method? Do you have a KZbin video?
@ZBrink115 ай бұрын
@@Susan70003 There is no real "do it yourself" method unfortunately. The equipment needed to do any dry ice blasting work is incredibly expensive. Just the type of air compressor required will run you a minimum of $10k+
@noybnoyb17183 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I knew there was a DIY solution to the rust problem. I have a used 2nd Gen Ram2500 that spent some of its life next to the Pacific Ocean and had undercarriage rust to prove it. I will be using the knowledge you passed on to stop the rust. A body guy told me once "rust never sleeps". Until you stop it with measure like your recipe. Glad to see you are in PI. My ex is Fipipina. We used to go ballroom dancing every weekend at Filipino gatherings. I miss my Filipino friends more than I miss her. They are Gods people. I even took some Tagalog lessons to "fit in" a little. You should have seen their faces one time during a dance lesson when I responded to a question in perfect Tagalog!! They said I make their nose bleed. 😂🤣 Maraming Salamat
@tyrotrainer7653 ай бұрын
I envy you! I live on the next big island to the left of Just a Hand and they have 4 dialects here and the level of spoken Filipino/Tagalog is surprisingly low, especially among the kids - thank lockdowns for that, they didn't help. So more often than not when I spout some pidgin Tagalog in a shop I get a blank look - bloody depressing! I lived in Spain for 3 years and got along fine in Spanish, so I can learn languages - just not here!
@Evil_Spotify_Metal_and_Rock3 ай бұрын
The 2nd Gen Rams were known as the biodegradable trucks 🙃. I use cans of rust proofing oil to prevent rust. I have a rust free 98, and I live in Canada. You also have to ream out the drain hole in behind the bottom of the front fender, or it'll collect mud. Pop open the plugs behind the rockers periodically and spray with water followed by oiling. Don't forget to put the plugs back in after. There's a bracket that collects mud and will rot out the cab corner. You have to remove the interior to get to it. Take it out and throw it away. You can oil the inside of the body while the interior is out. The rear wheel wells also like to collect mud. Take out the tail lights and spray inside the fenders with water, followed by oiling. I also drilled drain holes in behind the wheel wells so they dont collect mud. Gotta keep the old vehicles going for as long as possible. The new ones are out to lunch with their prices
@justahandchannel3 ай бұрын
It is very difficult to learn language here because it isn't latin based. I'm struggling very hard myself to learn the local dialect which covers a very small area
@neilfixes55016 ай бұрын
As a shipwright, Phosphoric acid is indispensible. Thanks for laying out the proportions for first-timers. I have not heard of the ethanol addition before.... I will try it out. I have found that a coat of undiluted Phos overnight will actually dissolve rust without the severe pitting caused by HCl. It will leave a sticky residue which I wash off with hot water and air-dry. I then recoat with 1:2 Phos solution and let that airdry. This leaves a whitish powdery coating (the iron phosphate) which is protective, so dont wipe it off. This can then be paint-primed, or be sealed with epoxy. I am keen to see what the ethanol adds.... speeds up the air-drying🤔? Thanks for this neat video. There are a million rust-cure you-tubes, but yours is straight to the point, and I know it works.
@kolsen63306 ай бұрын
Shipfitter here, have you ever used prestone antifreeze to kill and prevent dry rot? A shipwright friend showed me that trick.
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@domineech9 ай бұрын
Almost any strong acid will work for rust removal. My favorite cheap one is toilet bowl cleaner. As long as it has hydrochloric acid in it it will work. I've saved many motorcycle gas tanks with it.
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
I can't endorse or deny that claim. But I would worry about contamination and having to neutralize different kinds of acid. Whereas this formula will not need any of that. I wouldn't want to have something in paint and then see it bubble the first time it rains.
@jamiephillips8878 ай бұрын
Yes, but Phosphoric as was stated does not corrode rubber, plastic , or soft materials. Vinegar works well too, but eats at seals, rubber etc.
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
That's spot on
@RobHaag718 ай бұрын
Hydrochloric acid will made ferric chloride acid when it dissolves iron (which steel contains), ferric chloride acid will then dissolve steel given enough exposure. It will etch and protect and it may work fine but phosphoric acid will do a better job because it will convert the rust straight to iron phosphate ready to prime and paint and it’s not as bad (toxic gases) to with with
@domineech8 ай бұрын
@RobHaag71 good to know. You learn something new every day.
@roybrownjr44578 ай бұрын
Thank you, Brother, for sharing knowledge. I have a large trailer smoker I plan on having sandblast. I was worried about overnight rusting from dew forming on the tank. You saved me a headache.
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Glad to help!
@rogergoodwin55338 ай бұрын
Gold mine of information. Suprising results. Thanks alot.
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
You're welcome alot! 😁
@petemiller5193 ай бұрын
Good information. Thanks for sharing. Cheers from Canada!
@justahandchannel3 ай бұрын
You're welcome, ay!
@truthforall13038 ай бұрын
Me and hubby have classic cars and we buy shed loads of rust treatments so this will save us money Thanks matey Mandy Devon Uk 🇬🇧
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
It is my pleasure to assist my fellow car enthusiasts. It is crucial that we make every effort to preserve as many of these automobiles as possible.
@Dancing_Alone_wRentals8 ай бұрын
This is really interesting. Glad you posted. I would much rather learn what is in the bottles rather than just buying a can of magic.
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
You're welcome
@amebb111 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing this tip with us all. You are a star and please bring out new videos... Thank you 😀
@justahandchannel6 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. I will be starting to make more content soon. Building the house has been very time consuming.
@Anonymous-b3m8 ай бұрын
Ahhhh, good ole' Shopee...had to learn about that one when I was in Indonesia. The notification sound is addictive. lol
@Earthismadeoflayers5 ай бұрын
Excellent! I used neat phosphoric acid (bought from a lab 5 litres) to treat inside the stripped shell of my horsebox couple years back, only had a brush so a bit messy and couldnt get to everything. It worked well as 2 years later after parked out in uk weather it has remained the same converted state with white deposits where the rain hasnt got to it and light surface rust on those that got rained on. Im now finally able to get on with sorting this truck out so will dilute and spray on for good measure as you've shown before my next preps (very glad I dont have to rinse it off and dry with a towel before painting like so many others say to 😂). Like many commenters Im not sure why the hand gel but the commercial products have their reasons (maybe it inhibits bacteria growth or something to lengthen their shelf life). Thankyou!
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
Glad you like it!
@Thomas-ck1tm5 ай бұрын
just ran into your video randomly, wanting to do some underframe rust work on my 4x4 so perfect timing to try it out
@justahandchannel5 ай бұрын
Good timing then 😁
@imranh5395Ай бұрын
Great to know this, “Just a Hand!” Gonna put this knowledge to use tomorrow. Many thanks!
@justahandchannelАй бұрын
You're welcome. I'm glad to help
@gordonwebb8 ай бұрын
Great info. Love the Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve shirt!
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@BeADad24477 ай бұрын
Excellent video! I'm going to try this! I've always sprayed old oil and diesel on old metal I wanted to stop rust. Works good. Great video.
@justahandchannel7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@pattiannepascual8 ай бұрын
❤😂 Your beautiful dog is like a bratty little kid,talking back when you told him to get away from the chemicals 🤣
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Yes, she has quite the attitude 😆
@Maverick0x72 ай бұрын
Awesome info!!! Thanks so much. After I treat the rust under my truck what should be used to protect it?
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
It depends what results you want. If it is just a daily driver then you can use a rust prevention treatment.
@mtwseneca2 ай бұрын
I am in Buffalo, probably the worst for rust in the world. I squirt / spray oil into every door panel, rocker panel, sealed cavity, onto all metal lines, around the wheel housings and frame. Oil will "Creep" and prevent oxidation. On exposed areas, it will fade over time. There are oil based rust treatment shops in the area. Even lawnmower decks that are very rusted can be preserved for a long time if they are wire wheel cleaned and oiled, but a Cosmoline (Tectyl) wax based works great and lasts longer. Mike
@andrewchristiansen83118 ай бұрын
I just got my 98 Jeep XJ back and its from Syracuse NY so I definitely needed this. Gonna use flame proof exhaust paint & truck bed liner to survive these Detroit winters. Subscribed Thank you for your service🖖
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
@DOBERSTAFFIE4 ай бұрын
Great video buddy. Thanks for this info and video. Have a lot of equipment needing a clean up, going to give this a try. 😊
@justahandchannel4 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@mattsonic98247 ай бұрын
Thanks
@justahandchannel7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@steinbauge45918 ай бұрын
Great! Now, here in Norway i pay ca 10 $ for 250 ml of water based rust converter which works great, and that amount covers a lot of metal. To keep the rust away from my 1977 Ford Escort long term more is needed - Fluid Film.
@tikkidaddy8 ай бұрын
Fluid Film is great stuff. I use it to protect high carbon steel.knives and outdoor equipment in storage. Apply as THIN a coat as possible in those cases, a literal film is all you need
@spooky_hausintrees7 ай бұрын
I have to say this mix works fairly well. I tested on a rusty crusty spare rim. Wire wheel the rim then put mix on with paint brush. Now I will prime it and it should be good to go. 02 tundra underneath up next. Xxx finger!!! Heavy pitted rust gives you a hammered type look,but it gets in the bumps. Thank you for the video. Got my stuff from duda in AL, but check local farm stores,as it is also a fertilizer! +
@justahandchannel7 ай бұрын
Glad it worked well for you!
@DCTrainsOfThought8 ай бұрын
Klean-strip metal etch and prep (contains phosphoric acid) at lowes/home depot is the best Ive used for dipping rusted parts in but I imagine pure phosphoric acid works even quicker.
@dbirdez3 ай бұрын
Getting a chemistry lesson reading all the post , 😂, Love your presentation and the idea. Thanks!!!
@justahandchannel3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@bt81439 ай бұрын
Great information! Thanks to the both of you for sharing!
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
You bet!
@JimmyMakingitwork7 ай бұрын
I have been using Kleen Strip Concrete prep, available at most home improvement stores in the states and far less expensive than the Ospho brand with the same chemicals. Phosphoric acid is the key though, thanks for the video.
@justahandchannel7 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@caemaridwn9 ай бұрын
No need to wire brush or clean is a bonus. Thanks for the video
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
No problem 👍
@marksmith60918 ай бұрын
I’m restoring a 76 Trans Am,and dealing with some light surface rust under hood on the engine block, suspension parts, etc. I used your formula, and it left white powder looking results on the bare metal. What is that and how do I avoid that from happening again? How do I get it off the parts that it is on now? Thanks so much for your channel! Yep, I subscribed!
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
The white residue is typically a result of the product remaining on the treated surface. It is commonly observed on top surfaces due to limited evaporation. To mitigate this issue, consider using a blow gun ten minutes after application to remove excess product. For residue removal, re-spray the affected areas and wipe them with a cloth. Thanks for the sub!
@marksmith60918 ай бұрын
OK thanks for the fast reply! You ARE the man!
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@danielborth77533 ай бұрын
That's a great idea thank you I have a lot of rust underneath my SUV I would love to spray this stuff on there after The rust is gone I can prime it and undercoat
@justahandchannel3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@rodpetrie10888 ай бұрын
Very useful tip, can it be used on the underside of a car to prevent salt corrosion ?
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Of course. That is one of the main uses I have for it.
@flyinhawaiian91748 ай бұрын
How have I lived this long and not known this? Lol Thank you for doing this video. Subscribed.
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Thanks for joining. We've been waiting for you 😁
@richardautenzio81178 ай бұрын
I have used this phosphoric acid treatment for 40 years. After treatment it usually stays black unless I leave it out side over night and the moisture gets to it. Then I usually have to do it again as overnight the rusting process can begin again.
@brianm41785 ай бұрын
So do we put the protectant primer and sealer after an hour or so?
@brianm41785 ай бұрын
So do we put the primer and sealant spray on after an hour or so?
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
👍
@AyalaJD27308 ай бұрын
great video, thank you for sharing. need to try this on a bunch of rusted parts.
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Go for it!
@vapidsmiter94858 ай бұрын
AWESOME video. It's so organic and yet it's very useful.
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Thank you. That's why I like it so much too.
@MrSymbolic74 ай бұрын
White vinegar works well on dissolving rust and it doesn't have to be the super concentrated versions like 30-50-or 70 % either !
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
I respectfully disagree with your opinion. In a previous experiment, I utilized vinegar as a testing agent.
@bdubs24375 ай бұрын
Can't thank you enough for this !! Great info, cheers brother !
@justahandchannel5 ай бұрын
Glad to help!
@dzeyo6518 күн бұрын
im not against any method really, but practically speaking, 'going at' a vehicle undercarriage or frame just spraying it with something is going to cause more damage than it fixes .. individual removed parts, ok yeah, treat them then paint them ... but the easiest way to stave off corrosion under a vehicle is - save your old oil from an oil change, get you an old towel and soak it in it, jack your car up and start wiping .. its a dirty job😂 .. but highly effective .. i would spray off sand or caked up stuff first and let it dry .. youll be surprised how good it looks if your thorough, and the oil film will stay on for a long time, if it starts looking dry in a year or so hit it again ..
@justahandchannel8 күн бұрын
That works great for a daily driver but this method is more geared to people with classic cars when they intend to have a painted finish or like myself, they don't want oil over everything. It's personal preference.
@theaussienurseflipper.81138 ай бұрын
Great video I got my asset from a cleaning supply company they sell it to clean coffee machines here in Australia cheers Graham
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Good to know thanks
@WhiteLeperАй бұрын
Good info! I can’t wait to try it. I’m glad you mentioned it won’t harm rubber so I don’t have to be concerned about overspray. Is there a preferred temperature range to apply it in?
@justahandchannelАй бұрын
I haven't experienced any issues at any temperature
@williegarland8888Ай бұрын
With any chemical reaction, the higher the temperature, the better/faster/more complete the reaction is.
@luckypuppa49509 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the super gift!!
@506curtis8 ай бұрын
Awesome info I wish I knew this a long time ago. Thank you for sharing!
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Better late than never.
@bempey8 ай бұрын
Jeez, that's the first XR150L exhaust that I've heard that sounds GOOD! Got my 2024 XR150L last week (selling the vStrom). The XR needs jets, foot-pegs, front sprocket, ... to get started. (minimal costs). Then handlebars, exhaust, and a taller seat! (that's impossible to find, so far).
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
I think you confused my video with another. But thanks for watching!
@HeinerStorchennest1Ай бұрын
What is the ethanol for in the mix?
@anthonycapobianco56158 ай бұрын
Just curious...what causes the white chalk like spots to form in some places? And is that anything that needs further treating, or is it okay to just carry on with priming and painting?
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
The whitish residue is a result of moisture. This could be due to application in humid conditions or failure to remove excess spray. If the part cannot be hung to dry, use a blow gun 10 minutes after application to remove any excess liquid. You may still apply primer over the residue or re-spray the solution to fix it.
@hoodyboy188 ай бұрын
If you live in the rust belt, if you’re not driving pavement, princess, and you’re looking for a easy solution to keep rust off of your vehicle. Use wool wax. You’ll need to do some research as far as application but it’s very straightforward very simple to do. The hardest part is keeping the stuff from getting outside of your work area. I’ve been using it for years and I have a Toyota tundra with factory recall frame without any issues. You just have to diligently apply it once a year. Takes me about 2 gallons to do my truck.
@Irishcream2168 ай бұрын
As an addition to this, cosmoline (yes,the stuff covering your old milsurp firearms) comes in a spray form that works even better than factory wax undercoating.
@uncledoug99348 ай бұрын
After replacing the cab corners and bed wheel opening panels on my '88 GMC, I sprayed the inside areas with a product called Surface Shield by Blaster.
@damianjones6546Ай бұрын
That is amazing, I have been looking for a solution the rust on the frame of a car I am working on. This one is by far the easiest, safest and most effective! 👍
@justahandchannelАй бұрын
Glad to help!
@deliriofranjeadodl3 ай бұрын
Recently watched a KZbin vid of a guy that made a formula with citric acid and baking soda that outperformed evaporust. It remained reusable. while evaporust would get dirty and gunky and perform slower. The high point of the video was that is incredibly cheap to make vs phosphoric acid
@justahandchannel3 ай бұрын
I have already conducted experiments with that composition and still prefer my method due to its increased effectiveness.
@danielferraro597 ай бұрын
nice video mate well done , you really do come across very well and remember we are all different but all the same ! good for you mate i look forward to more vids 😉
@justahandchannel7 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@foggymtnbreakdown4 ай бұрын
Isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol), and methanol (methyl alcohol) will work just as good as ethanol. Pure ethanol (punctilious alcohol) is hard to come by in the US because you can drink it without going blind and the government wants to put a tax stamp on the container. 100% ethanol (heavily taxed by the US government) can be found in some liquor stores as grain alcohol and it will be labeled as 200 proof. Just go to Home Depot or Lowes and by a container of methanol (methyl alcohol). It will be with the acetone and the paint thinner and mineral spirits and lacquer thinner and such, and if you drink it, you will go blind. Hey, you can buy rubbing alcohol at the grocery store. All of the alcohols mix with water. Denatured alcohol is ethanol that has unsavory liquids added to it on purpose so that you won't want to drink it or if you do drink it, it might make you vomit. It is not expensive because the government doesn't tax it like a single malt scotch.
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
Sounds like you have alot of experience drinking non consumable products. I hope you can still see to read this message 😄
@jestork17 ай бұрын
Thanks for the wonderful video. You could be my neighbour any day. It seems like you have an active mind with lots of stuff going on in it. I look forward to viewing mor of your videos.
@justahandchannel7 ай бұрын
Indeed, you are correct. My mind is constantly active, and I have numerous projects that I am eager to undertake. Please stay tuned for more videos. I appreciate your joining us.
@mattruth7785 ай бұрын
I got a couple of cheap hacks mix roofing tar and diesel and a tiny bit of paint thinner and you have a huge quantity of asphalt undercoating oven cleaner as decreaser not bad or gasoline and a brush for really greasy engines cheap aswell super cost effective methods I use a vat with water and pool acid o ph down it is acid essentially also any type of drano will remove heavy rust completely
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
To each their own. I like to make things clean and nice.
@mattruth7782 ай бұрын
@@justahandchannel for when that’s not an option cars rust out completely in less than 5 years where I’m from
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
You must be from Ontario 😄
@tyrellmiller7788 ай бұрын
Just a hand, I like the pun. love your outlook on life as it is.
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Thank you. Keep watching as our channel will get better!
@user-du5lt5ij7hАй бұрын
Well I loved this vid,and after reading alot of comments and answers,I cant wait to try I love it and it makes sense.Great work!!
@justahandchannelАй бұрын
Thank you very much!
@HelpDesk-on7yo7 ай бұрын
Amazing work. O O telega! Beautiful dog too! Thank you kindly.
@justahandchannel7 ай бұрын
Salamat!
@davehaselkamp66619 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge..this sharing of knowledge is what makes youtube a good thing
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
It is great when people share the proper information and not fake.
@djgomaz18 ай бұрын
Thank you for your tips on rust removal 🙏 I’ve just bought a used stick welder and your suggestion will come in handy for removing rust from incomplete projects that left outside in the garden as they are too big to go in the garage 🙏
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Glad to help
@rayhughes82404 ай бұрын
@@justahandchannel as @djgomaz1 mentioned about the welding. Will this product leave any residue that could contiminate the flux of the welding rods without cleaning it off please? Great info mate and well presented
@justahandchannel4 ай бұрын
I recommend that you prepare the welding areas by grinding them to ensure a clean and proper contact surface. While the chemical itself does not directly impact the welding process, the presence of impurities or contaminants on the surface can hinder the effectiveness of the weld. Therefore, it is crucial to maintain a clean surface for optimal welding results.
@PxssyGalore9 ай бұрын
You're Awesome, Thank You!! An alternative to all the expensive products online that are probably the same thing, but you made it cheaper. I have an old Bronco that needs this.
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
Cheaper and not watered down! You are quite welcome.
@tomabc39188 ай бұрын
You are correct sir rust is a. Form of energy that never sleeps it's to bad we can't harness that form of energy
@montanawhite56998 ай бұрын
I got an old bronco as well that needs some help.
@Subgunman9 ай бұрын
Phosphoric acid is also the main ingredient for parkerizing solution in gunsmithing.
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
It is used for many different purposes. And the companies slap their name on it and charge ridiculous amounts to purchase it. You can buy a pass all of that and save a ton of money.
@marshallcollins86348 ай бұрын
I have always wondered how the parkerized. Had a shotgun parkerized in the early 80’s .still have it and it looks like it did when it was done. It is my beater gun.
@randy-yx6pi8 ай бұрын
@@marshallcollins8634I’m
@debralegge85138 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info, hate wasting money when not necessary. Great stuff and newly subscribed, will keep watching.
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Thanks for subscribing.
@patriotrising62149 ай бұрын
Thanks For your tip , answered my needs ! As im cleaning an undercoating a 30 year old truck today...THANKS
@justahandchannel9 ай бұрын
Glad to help
@alsteeves20445 ай бұрын
Very timely and informative. Have an upcoming poor mans resto coming up on a truck. Thanks a million!
@justahandchannel5 ай бұрын
No problem. Stay tuned because we will be making more content like this shortly
@mtwseneca2 ай бұрын
A component of Pepsi and Coca Cola (and probably all colas) is phosphoric acid which takes minerals out of your bones to neutralize it, and the reason to rarely or never drink the stuff and the reason they remove rust.
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
A significant quantity of the food consumed contains phosphoric acid.
@greyscout018 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information amigo. I appreciate tips like this.
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
No hay problema 😁
@tullgutten2 ай бұрын
One mix i like is 100gram of citric acid and 40 grams of sodium carbonate to 1 liter water and one drop of soap. It makes a powerful rust remover but at a PH around 4-5 so harmless to most metals and skin. And for me at least its way cheaper
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
Please be aware that sodium carbonate requires proper neutralization, and metal etching remains necessary prior to the painting process with this method.
@neilaleksandrov26555 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you for this content.. information like this is so empowering and most everyone can benefit from a solid way to fight rust! Thanks!
@justahandchannel5 ай бұрын
You're welcome. I will soon be adding more great ways to fight rust among other things.
@os2musicuk20318 күн бұрын
is it necessary to paint the treated surface after ?
@justahandchannel18 күн бұрын
It depends on what you are working on, I suppose. If you don't seal it from air, then eventually rust is going to form again.
@zoharflax63634 күн бұрын
Very helpful video, thank you! Best wishes to you in the Phillipines.
@justahandchannel4 күн бұрын
Thank you very much and best wishes to you wherever you are.
@drleelooby7239Ай бұрын
Thank you, I'll get these ingredients for my rusty box trailer.
@justahandchannelАй бұрын
Great!
@ernestocastillo83072 ай бұрын
Oh wao, my deepest apreciation to you. I was looking for this, and I stumbled with your video when I started looking on the internet. Thank you very much. Please continue with more videos. Your explanations are simple and to the point. Kudos
@justahandchannel2 ай бұрын
You're welcome
@philoffhistree3 ай бұрын
nice all the other rust treatment are where you have to leave the item in the liquid yeah they work good but you cant cut the underside of you car off and leave it in there can you so this is great thanks mate
@justahandchannel3 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
@tyrotrainer7654 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for that, we've got a newish steel gate that's started rusting - I suspect the (Filipino) guys who made it didn't prime it properly, if at all. It's in a permanently covered area so never gets wet; ironically we've got a pair of driveway gates that are as good as the day they were installed 2 years ago. Hopefully the formulation you recommend will nip it in the bud. Greetings from Western Visayas.
@justahandchannel4 ай бұрын
I live in Western visayas too 😄 You need some good epoxy primer to protect it after neutralizing the rust, and I'm not really sure what products to recommend in the Philippines yet. I still have to experiment with them. But I will soon be making my own gates, so stay tuned, and I will try some different products and post videos.
@tyrotrainer7654 ай бұрын
@@justahandchannel OK cheers! I'm an hour north of San Jose, on the coast.....Antique. You can't buy anything useful in the hardware stores here, especially steel/stainless, and even Iloilo (3+ hours) is pretty dire! If it was not for Lazada/Shopee I'd be totally stuffed for good tools and consumables.
@justahandchannel4 ай бұрын
@tyrotrainer765 I'm near victorias and I definitely understand what you're saying. I'm guessing you are an expat.
@tyrotrainer7654 ай бұрын
@@justahandchannel Haven't been to Negros yet, but wife and I hope to go to Dumaguete when she can get some leave from work; she works at a university and she puts in as many hours between semesters as during - she's either teaching or preparing course work. I'm a Brit, retired here 6 years ago.
@joshfixall79384 ай бұрын
Meanwhile rust belt mechanics deal with rust so thick it plates off the metal so you have to resort to hammering it , needle scaling , then angle grinder with a wire wheel or just an angle grinder with a regular grinder wheel to ever reach any real metal . Never used any of a liquid version of all that , would save me a load 👍
@justahandchannel4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, you still have to get the loose stuff off, but once you do that, then you can spray and save yourself a lot of time
@jerrycobb50918 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video on the rust remover pretty cool and you seem knowledeable on these type of things and would make someone a good friend . Thank you Jerry
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Thanks Jerry. I could use some friends here. 😁
@Big88Country8 ай бұрын
AWESOME!! Thank you for this!!
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@TheJoefussGarage8 ай бұрын
I watch all the old car restoration stuff I can on KZbin. And I'm happy the algorithms brought me to you sir. I loved basic chemistry explanation as well, I love to know how things actually work. I've done several restorations, with the pre made stuff. I'll be using this 65 Stang coupe, I'm doing with my high school buddy. We'll be using this to kill our rust instead.. Thanks for the education!!!! Be well my friend!!!
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
You're very welcome. I'm glad I can help you with your restorations!
@user-yd1vl9lj5j8 ай бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for the vid!
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
You bet!
@ricardosimplicio4778 ай бұрын
Thank you for you knowledge brother all the best for you and yours
@justahandchannel8 ай бұрын
You're welcome and thank you!
@diatonicdelirium17434 ай бұрын
Please be careful with the acid, especially when you make an aerosol - it can and will harm your skin, eyes and lungs when concentrated! Outside use and with protection is recommended.