Magic TV - Top 8 Cards that Went from Trash to Treasure

[@sabbysmith354]

do a treasure to trash list I'm interested

[@thomasdameron390]

Every has-been Standard staple that doesn't see play in Modern or Legacy

[@WilsonTech-go]

Sabby Smith siege rhino!

[@WilsonTech-go]

Sabby Smith also splinter twin

[@mattf8958]

Sarkhan the Dragonspeaker - $40 to $2

[@umayle07]

Sabby Smith smuggler

[@ThomasB-zw3sg]

List starts at 6:00. You're welcome.

[@grantt.8797]

Who is president and CEO of Channel Fireball again?

[@bentonmadsen4168]

JOOOOOOOOHHHHNNNNNNN CEEEEEEENNNNNNNAAAAAA

[@TraxDaMax]

Storm Crow

[@Blackadder75]

I think his name is LSV

[@gherrin]

i had cutout knees in middle school. im now 33.

[@leftythesalesman6459]

Eh okay?

[@veggie88]

gherrin I was worried about your health until I noticed that man's fashion choices.

[@jeremybds1901]

can we get a graphic of the card in the middle of the screen? like large enough to read for the people who haven't memorized all the cards? every other channel has viewable card windows when they talk about it. get it together

[@alexlovell6826]

i wish they would link to these tournaments they talk about.

[@johnc6497]

I remember getting some packs of Future Sight years ago and I pulled one of those "junk rare" Goyfs that just got thrown into a binder / forgotten about. Well, when I came back to MTG more seriously again, Dragon's Maze had been out for a while and Theros was just around the corner. Long story short, was able to unload that for so much more money I felt like a bandit finding lost treasure!

[@liamspeirs2969]

Top 8 cards that appear in the most Top 8s

[@scottlewis5521]

Honorable mention to Masticore. In Destiny it was a junk rare and you could scoop up a vendor's entire inventory for less than a dollar a piece. Then Mercadian Masques came out and with it brought Squee, Goblin Nabob. Out of nowhere every single deck in standard had 4 masticore and 4 squee (along with 4 rishadan ports) and the masticore went from $1 to $20 instantly!

[@hectorgodinez]

Scott Lewis I agree. I myself would like to add Stoneforge Mystic. Nobody cared. Then slowly Legacy started fetching Jitte and Sword Fire Ice. Then, one day, BAM! BATTERSKULL.

[@matthewstruble8881]

LED has to be number 1 right?

[@matthewstruble8881]

:)

[@Yuzuki1337]

Exactly my thoughts, Chandelabra and LED had to be on this list :D

[@PorygonPowahZ]

Was Time Vault ok at first? I always assumed that card was ass until key was printed.

[@nuclear_warrior]

I only have one question - who is the president and CEO of Channel Fireball?

[@Blackadder75]

NuclearWarrior Mr Scott Vargas

[@Magnivore519]

Anyone have footage of LSV playing elves at the Pro Tour with Glimpse?

[@slapp5357]

Just look for pt Berlin 2008 and he'll pop up. Old school Vargas. I'm very glad he got fit.

[@BennyBartez]

Hi. Not sure if this message will get read by the people who could make this change, but please can the card size be larger? I struggle every time i watch this, in particular on my phone. Many Thanks. Great content as always.

[@stereodark]

I totally agree on number 1. I remember buying a set of LEDs in 2003 for 10$ and doing one of the first legacy tournaments the next year surprising everyone with Iggy pop. A fantastic deck!

[@PleebsOG]

I started Magic back in 2005 when I randomly went with my friends to Gen Con. Among all the random "junk" cards my friend gave me as starter cards were two, yes TWO, Glimpse of Natures! lol

[@mluna1237]

Can you please make the pictures of the cards a bit bigger (at least when you first mention them)? They're currently too small to read and it's annoying to have to pause the video and look up a card just to know what's being talked about.

[@Alfrebaut]

I remember at the regionals right after Future Sight came out, I traded a set of Leyline of the Void for a set of Tarmogoyfs for a friend who was playing zoo. Unfortunately, that player quit playing one day and I never got them back, which wasn't a big deal based on their value at the time, but looking back now...

[@garrettjohnsonyt]

5:01 Cheon, turn 1 Dark Ritual into Necro was *actively* *bad*. It's one thing to make that play in Vintage, Legacy, or Cube, where you can't throw a rock without hitting a blue spell that has the words "draw" and "cards" in it. It's quite another to make that play in Type II, in 1996, when the best fixing is allied painlands, and the only other card draw in the Necro deck is Drain Life. No, the right play is to force one-for-one trades with your opening 7, play Necro into a pair of empty hands, and use it to refill.

[@freddyflash311]

Brainstorm should have been an honorable mention. It was a joke when it was printed. The monetary value isn't there, hence the HM

[@zealcrux]

No Scapeshift? Weird.

[@mickwillis1017]

Alex Cruz I was thinking the same thing!!!!

[@ezuri4381]

i bought so many tarmogoyf for $3 back in alara!!! and sold them for about 50, god the price of this card shot the hell up

[@tzadkiel]

Erick Sandoval I could kick myself for offloading them when I opened my boxes of future sight. they didn't go in my dralnu deck so I got rid of them.

[@stereodark]

Fetchlands were around when Goyf was released, not in standard but they were a thing in extended and as soon as Goyf became a thing it became a staple in extended. It was 20$ for quite a while.

[@AndrewHunter]

Bazaar got used with Squee as a draw engine in Vintage sometimes. (Gorger combo being the most common.) There were also occasionally uses with Stax.

[@ashzciwobuz1277]

I know this is a stupid question but what is the name for twitch stream.

[@njsification]

KZbin randomly serves me this video and I can confidently say lantern is back with Urzas Saga.

[@JFlynn1207]

Couldn't you always combine Lions Eye diamond with something like timetwister or wheel of fortune? Even if you're not going for a storm play it still seems like it had some utility.

[@KarateKidX]

Someone played both Gisela and Bruna against me at the prerelease. They never assembled Brisela though

[@Khazuki_]

Glimpse of Nature number 1?

[@Prinrin]

"Any time you go back and watch footage [of pro tour berlin]..." Good luck doing that. WotC took down the YT vods and the webcast server is dead.

[@michaeldegrave5905]

Where in the world is Time Vault? I guess it was treasure, then trash, then treasure again, so maybe it doesn't count, but the various erratas have made it unplayable and great at different times.

[@Yuzuki1337]

I was also surprised at the lack of Chandelabra of Tawnos, that card was utter shite until they printed High Tide :D

[@dbzwarlord]

No Nightveil Spectre? From junk rare to most played creature in standard.

[@zonink4601]

Late comment. Nightveil spectre wasn’t considered a bad card before theros was out. It just didn’t have a deck. Most of the cards on this list were unplayable janky garbage when first printed

[@oblivion45602]

Does anyone have a link to a video of the Pro Tour Berlin finals?

[@Lemonducky86]

Makes you wonder what cards would be on this list in the future. Right now there's a garbage card sitting in junk piles everywhere that we're all going to kick ourselves for not noticing until it was too late.

[@teeeeeveeeee314]

So how many drinks did you guys take when you heard CEO John Sasso's name?

[@Pinfeldorf]

Was surprised not to see Tabernacle, Horizon Canopy and Blood Moon.

[@gunnermac3570]

As someone who deals with audio, get those mics taped down. Use gaffers tape or 2nd skin. It'll stop the noise from the mics bouncing around.

[@nvrluki7608]

Wow thanks, im about to sell off my collection from back in the day... and i have a box of lions eye diamonds lol....

[@TheAlexanderkl]

Candelabra of Tawnos?

[@xKarmadillo]

definitely expected Stoneforge Mystic to be on this list. It was a $1 rare until Scars of Mirrodin came out, and now it's been banned in modern since the format existed. It even received the standard ban.

[@twitchster77]

I actually really like the card Trash For Treasure. Big fan of Reshape as well :D It's no surprise that Tinker is my favorite deck of all time lol.

[@EliPye35]

Love that card in Old School and Commander.

[@connormcgillivray9925]

no senseis divining top?

[@NewFemtex]

Stoneforge Mystic. Man, there are so many.

[@Lost1nTheFog]

I knew LED was going to be on the list!

[@hundredpercentjuice]

No Flash?

[@zotha]

How is Force and Karakas not on this list?

[@PatriciaCross]

6: Painter was recognized as broken from day one. Dream Halls became unrestricted at the same time and there was a Vintage deck running around running them together. I am not 100% sure; but I may have been the one who invented that deck. I built it on MWS and Apprentice with great results and posted a primer on MTG Salvation. Mind you it was a while before it broke in other formats. 5: Locally Goyf was recognized as broken day one. It was a $10 card at our store pretty much right out the gate. It never occurred to me oddly that it may be not seen as such elsewhere. If I had even thought I could have gotten it for $1 online; I would have immediately bought every one I could. I was living in Belleville, Ontario at the time. Honorable mention to Lotus/Mox. Believe it or not; but before the game really caught on they were considered trash. Moxes were not much better than lands and I know people who traded Lotuses for sets of Dark Rituals.

[@swordsman111982]

Goblin Rabblemaster and Master of Waves in top 4?

[@darksidegames6191]

The fact the brainstorm and wasteland are not on this list is just foolish... it's not like they are obscure and could be overlooked...

[@Grimlokh]

Brainstorm was, and always has been a broken card. Any sort of shuffle mechanic, makes it better than intended, and shuffle clauses have been around since tempest.

[@Grimlokh]

Brainstorm is only $1 because its been reprinted quite a few times. Now imagine everyset since Futuresight had Goyf at rare. Goyf would still be powerful, but only worth about $.25

[@Derret134]

Sensei's Divining Top,Scapeshift?

[@Grimlokh]

Really expecting Nightveil specter to be on this list, but low. Man they went ham quick

[@paulj7491]

Where the hack is SCAPESHIFT, that thing was about 1 Dollar before Valakut came out :D I was so angry, whenever I pulled it, back in the days, when I baught random-booster-packs as a kid, because it was totally useless...and just recently I digged them up from my trash-rares and sold 3 copies, those 3 made me more money then I spent on magic back when the card came out xD

[@SunnyBoys2]

What about the zen fetchlands people were throwing them away during draft lol

[@OlleHellman]

Necro, Illusions of grandeur, Smily face?

[@alexbarnes1012]

The tarmagoyf stories were top tier

[@Chosen1_of.the.NONexistent_God]

One of my friend play Dark Dept in EDH and pay the 30 mana for it.

[@JR-xv6mv]

I bought a Karakas for a quid. People thought I was an idiot for playing it in my sb against Oath.

[@millefune]

1:46 into the video, and I'm going to guess #1 is Tarmogoyf.

[@millefune]

Damn, #5.

[@rockstar212121]

Wow I can't believe that people thought Glimpse of Nature was a trash card. I saw value in it right away when I pulled it up on tcgplayer just now. Maybe because it reminds me of a card in yugioh that could end your opponents turn as soon as you drop it. That card is Maxx C incase anyone wanted to know. Though it plays way more like a Resupply Squad, also another very good card.

[@archemist342]

Speaking of LSV's greatest hits, I feel like stoneforge mystic should be on this list.

[@santiagomonsu9254]

where's rally the ancestors?

[@TheAsarver]

No force of will?

[@bevrosity]

yeah, i remember when nobody gave a shit about tarmagoyf. as a matter of fact, many years ago, i found one under the base of my kitchen table while cleaning. just sitting there like a piece of trash. then i come to find out it's like 80-100 bucks at that time. it was like finding a 100-dollar bill in my pants pocket while doing laundry lol

[@boredsak]

Brainstorm, Karakas, Blood Moon. Back in the 90's all those cards were severely under valued with Brainstorm being a throw-away common in Ice Age, Karakas being a legendary plains until Lin Sivvi came out and Blood Moon worth less than Preacher and Ball Lightning in "The Dark". They would be my honourable mentions.

[@KarateKidX]

Off the top of my head: 1. LED 2. Bazaar of Bagdhad 3. Force of Will 4. Phyrexian Dreadnaught 5. Natural Order 6. Splinter Twin 7. Grindstone 8. Summer Bloom

[@egyptcraze]

LED's gotta be in the top 3, right?

[@egyptcraze]

yup #1 called it :P

[@icrux30]

hope glimpse of nature is here!

[@ARQ93]

My guesses for things on the list: Daybreak coronet or lions eye diamond.

[@ARQ93]

Yaay, even I know about Lions eye, but missed on the coronet.

[@Bradyoungbass]

guessing mana drain. seems bad with mana burn having been a thing.

[@Bradyoungbass]

obviously insane now tho...

[@dimitri13]

Before watching any of the list, 3 to 1 is Jace, Vryn's Prodigy, Dark Depths, and Lion's Eye Diamond.

[@farmerdragonball]

dimitri13 jace was always good

[@dimitri13]

Jace was a bulk mythic on release, everyone touted him as the worst of the flip walkers.

[@oidipositas]

Necropotence?

[@adamwasburn-moses2284]

did you guys forget scapeshift

[@karmajarrule]

my guess for number top 3 is jitte, desecration demon and top

[@sniper13500]

Cards that should have been on the list or honorable mentions: Pack Rat/Nightveil Specter/Desecration Demon till Theros came out Time Vault went from Treasure to Trash to Treasure to Trash to Treasure with every Oracle update. Sword of the Meek till Thopter Foundry came out Illusions of Grandeur till Donate came out Brainstorm till Fetchlands came out Amulet of Vigor till it was discovered Earthcraft till Squirrels Nest came out Invigorate till Infect

[@Halfzipp]

First visit the channel and the audio is super sketchy. Content may be good but the audio makes it difficult to listen to.

[@nickstevens7519]

Did Mashi drop an F bomb

[@paradoarify]

Where's serum visions?

[@Lvl10CPU]

Surprised there was no Sword of the Meek. Card wasn't even a solid draft pick before they printed Thopter Foundry.

[@PoodlestarGenerica]

Bazaar was never worth less than 50 bucks or so except during a time period when all those old cards were. It got unrestricted, that's what created the price bump. People started playing worldgorger. That's a dumb pick, it's like putting ancestral vision on the list because it got unbanned in modern. Stoneforge should have been in that spot. The rest of the list was very good though.

[@lancefranklin9425]

No Rally the Ancestors??!

[@jkattack2640]

where is force of will?

[@TheG1bbles]

my friend pulled painter stone at the midnight, he never drew it went 1-3.

[@jonathananderson7677]

Eldrazi Mimic for sure, although it has gone down again

[@jaredvargas5785]

The odds of opening Painter's/Grindstone in draft, if I'm doing my math right, is about 1 in 7.5 million.

[@FlourescentPotato]

Yeah, I read that too.

[@sammyb_TCG]

What about FLASH? Went from unplayable to unbeatable to banned overnight.

[@marcmarc1967]

Speculating on trash cards on Magic Online is the way to go, since most trash rares are literally 1 cent theses days, maybe 2 cents if it has some fringe use. If you think a cards is gonna be used at some point at all, you can buy 1000 of them for about 15 tix, and even if it only goes up to 3 bucks, well you can do the math. plus they can be instantly bought and sold from bots. IRL the min for a crap rares is about 10 cents, and the buy/sell process can be excruciating in large numbers.

[@herbert164]

candelabra of tawnos? Edit: wow no mention of this anywhere...

[@brennanrodriguez122]

They gotta have glimpse of nature

[@marx_avenger6137]

No moat?

[@Cecekcz]

Before watching, Goyf and LED should definitely be up there.

[@JalebJay]

Where is Stoneforge Mystic which was a $1-2 card that did nothing during its first year of magic? IT GOT BANNED IN STANDARD!

[@willieo6027]

I feel like moxes would be on this list. First reaction to seeing moxes is "it's just like a land" and not that impressed. I'd say it didn't take insanely long before people realized they're better than that, but moxes are still cards that went from "This is basically a land" to power 9, most broken cards in magic status.

[@JakiraJakira78]

No Scapeshift? What the heck

[@Fox_Moulder]

Freakin Cheon, lmao. I've heard him tell that mulligan story a million times.

[@deadnoobie2859]

I don't remember a time since at least antiquities when Bazaar of Baghdad was less valuable than Dual Lands were. Does not belong on the list. Outside of Library it was the most valuable land for quite some time. Was years before even Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale surpassed it in price. Tabernacle doesn't belong on the list either, yet it belongs on this list more than Bazaar does.

[@tetrisgoat]

Stoneforge Mystic has got to be on the list, right? I don't think top 3 but I'm predicting it's top 8 for sure. Extremely marginalised through ZEN. Then comes Scars and boom. Banned.

[@JessicaZane4realz]

Rogue One was so damn good.

[@slapp5357]

Agree

[@strictlyworse_mk7108]

All I know is that Jace the mind sculptor and Jace vryns protege are in the top 4 Oh and raging ravine

[@twoferone5729]

Gogin Milencess edited yet still spelled wong

[@vindixen358]

Gogin Milencess JtMS was always seen as a busted card. JVP was only underrated for a month or so. Raging Ravine was always played alot, it just wasn't expensive until a recent buyout. I'm guessing you don't actually play much MTG and are mainly a finance guy, because the only card on your list that even remotely fits the criteria is Jace VP.

[@farmerdragonball]

VinDixen jace vp was underrated but it was never trash. It was thought of as being a good looter. Flashing back CoCo took it over the top though.

[@spencerwarburton1663]

DEATH SHADOW?

[@morriganpandora3787]

Force of will, haven't watched the vid yet.

[@Lost1nTheFog]

How would that ever be trash?

[@morriganpandora3787]

Al r the card used to be 10 cents and unplayed when it first came out in alliances

[@pygar256]

Way back when, "counter" decks were built around Counterspell and Boomerang.... people saw the casting cost and the alternative cost (discard and pay a life) and thought FOW was crap. I'm not sure, but I am guessing it was the Madness mechanic that made it as popular as it is now.

[@Grimlokh]

Ummm... FOW says Exile. FOW became powerful when people realized it can be paired with counterspell and numerous other deny effects for an Uber-control deck. Problem became "how do i win?" Well, one of the most abundant creatures, a common, that also had some sort of evasion, that was also cheap enough to protect against counter wars, was Storm Crow. It was also blue, so a card pitchable to FOW, thus making the joke that Storm crow is the most powerful creature ever.

[@snappycaster]

Not Madness. Countering something without mana is just insane. It makes combo decks very difficult to play in any format that has FOW