Magic TV Top 8 of the Week: Format Breakers

[@redfeildre349]

If you have not done it yet, you should do a top 8 changes to magic the gathering. I'm thinking things like the removal of manna burn, the banning of banding, the change in the legendary rule, ect. I'd like to see that.

[@dkres82]

they've done top 8 rules changes actually

[@47Mortuus]

aswell as top 8 magic shake ups in history... duh

[@twitchster77]

#8.) 01:18 Countertop (counterbalance/sensei's divining top) #7.) 03:37 Seismic Swans (swans of bryn argoll/seismic assault) #6.) 05:38 Dragonstorm #5.) 07:03 Flash Hulk (protean hulk/flash) #4.) 08:27 Elves #3.) 10:30 Dredge #2.) 11:56 Dark Depths (dark depths/vampire hexmage) #1.) 14:48 Caw-Blade (stoneforge mystic/squadron hawk)

[@47Mortuus]

2:25 TSG drifting away 2:49 "blah blah top 8 blah" HOLY... THE WORLD STILL NEEDS ME

[@Lindeman08]

Seismic Swans. That gives me sweet memories. Played against some of those back in a nationals qualifier in -08. They just straight up lost to my Sudden Deaths.

[@MaligD]

I would like to see thoughts on the Peasant/Pauper format.

[@TheCabIe]

I love how LSV and Cheon used to be the rogue guys trying to beat the format. All those stories are so awesome

[@cz75fanatic]

Yep this should be a LSV favorite.

[@frasert8779]

Didn’t Shota initiate the Cawblade deck? Or no?

[@themanwiththepan]

Channelfireball should include this in their description.

[@Marclivis]

god I miss these :(

[@Kakerate2]

what deck is he talking about at 9:30 ?

[@modernminded5466]

+Paul Ahrenholtz - Legacy Elves, I think.

[@mercenarybdu]

That's GP Columbus 2007 actually when GP Flash happened. That's the GP where Zac Hill made a name for himself with Owen and many other names.

[@edwinedward4543]

Where would eye of ugin fit in this list

[@Derret134]

Mox Opal 8$ good old times...

[@MrCoolguy9]

whats a dredge deck?

[@thanorn3]

What about Affinity?

[@LAZERPEOPLZ]

haven't seen it yet, but I'm predicting it

[@willuda7098]

Tropical island and tundra at 70$, I'm crying a little bit right now

[@hepatitis123]

That's the buy list price. Only what they'll pay you for it, not what you would pay for it.

[@pedrobenz4328]

still, a world i'd like to live in

[@IbrakadabraRules]

mental misstep broke legacy.... not let one deck become op.... just every deck played that card... even goblins...

[@odarkeq]

Does TSG have a hockey show? Is LSV on it?

[@AncientSoup]

It played Glimpse of Nature, Heritage Druid and a lot of cheap elves, to turn each creature into a mana and a card, then you can use all the elves you produce a large Predator Dragon or a large Grapeshot.

[@MrTnox]

no jund?

[@Affinity2412]

Ravager Affinity??

[@willuda7098]

What is your confusion?

[@IthilanorStPete]

No Faeries or Jund?

[@Joeyboiification]

Mirrodin standard wasn't broken by arcbound ravager, it was broken by skullclamp and the artifact lands, all six of which were banned in standard within a couple of months of modular/affinity just winning absolutely everything. Should have mentioned that in this vid too....

[@halfe8128]

HAHAHAHA $12 Tibalt, but $8 Karn.

[@imortalimp01]

+Jayfeather Y.T. $15 liliana of the veil...

[@Kakerate2]

+C3lley Gaming lol, i can't believe a playset of Tibalts was $50 at one point.

[@jaredvargas5785]

Ah, yes format breaks. PT OGW. Bam.

[@Lazris59]

You didn't talk about the tempered steel deck you guys ran at worlds? Broke that tourney... but G/R ramp bat you. Still, it was a huge break.

[@DylanSon2]

Request: Top 8 cards which where most in a top 8 of the week

[@PenguinForTheWin]

This is the second video now that I've seen Bonefire of the Damned on sale.

[@thanorn3]

Oh that's right.

[@Panquernic]

1:15 Karn liberated $8 lol...

[@ausrei111]

lol I was just about to say the same thing

[@chappachie4168]

Taiga at 20$

[@bobbysnobby]

I have seen this twice and I still think that not even an honorable mention to broken jar is a major oversight.

[@saltedllama2759]

It didn't "break" the format though. Breaking the format means it comes out of nowhere and takes the format by storm. Jar was stupidly obvious as a broken card the moment it came out, and that's why it was banned so quickly. No one broke out with it; it was immediately degenerate. Like Tolarian Academy before it, or Fluctuator and then every Cycle card costs 2. Nothing from Urza's was game-breaking, innovative, or interesting. It was obviously broken standalone cards that required zero thought, and also circumvented player interaction.

[@paradoarify]

That's 2005. I think.

[@nelvinrojas1952]

How far we have strayed from God

[@MSNking14]

Top 8 Generals for Commander!!!

[@NicksLotus]

DO A top 8: worst ptq mess ups

[@0therworlds]

13:20 "Bonefire of the Damned"...

[@RPGAssassin]

WTF, where was the affinity nightmare that caused massive quits?

[@wingshad0w00982]

OK, top 8 format breakers in the last 5-6 years JTMS #1

[@UpsidedownHandshake]

Predicting Cawblade as number one.

[@XKaliber2097]

Am I just a noob or should survival have definitely been on this list?

[@evanmacarthur-waltz1795]

I wonder where eldrazi would have gone on this list.

[@hundredpercentjuice]

Looking at TSG being genuinely disgusted by Luis' good natured stories about winning totally makes sense knowing what we know now....

[@imasiontist653]

What do we know now?

[@WTFuneral]

hm, wonder why it wasnt on there, oh well i forgot about stoneforge. eeeesh

[@kmackoviak09]

@7:28 ahahaha, bigger fish, whatt??? Shaun knows it too.

[@ZeMnouS]

im foreeeing jace being in the top 5 for this topic

[@nschulz4537]

Top 8 cards that keep people honest.

[@alpharage1090]

no ravager/

[@prestonrasmussen4083]

And now dredge is broken again

[@legochickenguy4938]

Cavern of Souls 17.50 :(

[@serialeep]

+CommanderX3001 And $15 snapcaster

[@omniscientbeing4224]

+Vessace 15$ Liliana

[@joshuadulin5634]

Befor I watch, Ravenger? Vengevin? Batterskull/ Stoneforge? Snapcaster? Protein hulk? I dunno

[@Quiltfish]

Raging Cougar? o_O

[@TEAMBURNSHADOW]

deliver top 8 every tourney in last month

[@keyes53ljh]

hmmm...no wild nacatl's delver's primeval's or valakut's...for realz!

[@FuckingWithThePiano]

My spider sense is tingling about Arcbound Ravager....

[@yngmalm]

4:57 My last girlfriend gave me bonefire of the damned...some cream and some antibiotics cleared it right up.

[@MrMacdaddymcfly]

at $15 snappy and $15 liliana

[@Ignition_Spark]

At 05:00 Bonefire of the Damned.

[@ponman2005]

mmm

[@RHCPgroupie42]

Calling the Arcbound Ravager

[@iVindicate]

Don't read the comments before you watch the video. You do this to yourself...

[@thatguy088]

in terms of power level, i was disappointed to not see vengevine for legacy, it was the last piece to a puzzle that turned a traditionally decent and efficient engine (survival) into one of the most busted decks ever, it completely broke an entire eternal format, then we had mental misstep obsolete every deck in a format except 2... legacy gets no love :(

[@mattcruz9060]

heheh, Tibalt was down at 12 dollars.

[@koyoyoyo1170]

I have one thing to say "1997".

[@ImTaylorGang]

wearing a ranger shirt after they got eliminated... come on tristan!!

[@gedwashere91]

ZOMG ANGEL DELVER SHOULD BE ON THE LIST #banponder

[@carlosspencer5369]

LMAO ya'll freaking out about $8 karns and $20 snaps but holy shit sub $100 dual lands sign me the fuck up

[@ThatFremenGuy]

Caw-Blade? Blame Brian Kibler.

[@Rtiffany0466]

It didn't break it for long, but modern 2010-2011 Blazing Shoal + Inkmoth Nexus.

[@WTFuneral]

havent watched yet but im forseeing lingering souls.....

[@Lornext]

F-F-F-Format Breaker!

[@casinoboy8871]

Lsv the best

[@LAZERPEOPLZ]

*ahem*JACE, THE MIND SCULPTOR*ahem*

[@TheLuminousCleric]

Are you fucking kidding me? Buying dual lands for 25 dollars to 65 dollars? O_o

[@themanwiththepan]

Affinity isn't broken. Don't hate the game; hate the player.

[@jonahmelegrito]

...And then Bonfire of the Damned was printed

[@catwithorb]

Tundra -- $70. Hahahahhahahahahahahaha

[@manhattanblockade8544]

Bayou $40

[@discoooooooo]

Survival was legacy only so it wouldn't have made it. However it was a beast.

[@RoxyGotMoxy.]

Nothing about Delver? Jesus that card/archtype is goddamn EVERYWHERE!

[@saltedllama2759]

It didn't "break" a format. Like the Jar comments above, it has to be a complete surprise. Delver decks were obviously good early on, and just hung around forever. It didn't come in and completely surprise a major tournament field and subsequently become the fad.

[@rhysthompson7361]

Armageddon would also destroy the Thopter/Dark Depths combo.

[@Th3AkwardTrtl]

Skullclamp broke format

[@T-Ron]

hahaha, the video just froze at 6:22 XD

[@armityle27]

the problem is, to me it's spoiler. If you did the same thing for a movie, commenting when each fight seen with who, and any romantic scenes, or any deaths, it would be a spoiler. sorta the same thing here

[@heyimbilliejean]

Too bad they didn't go back a little further. They could have talked about affinity.

[@SpaceMormon]

Olivia Voldaren $2.00 Snapcaster Mage $15.00...ME GUSTA!

[@AeonAxisProductions]

Seige rhino

[@ItRhymesWith]

Siege Rhino hasn't broken a format. It's just too efficient, is all.

[@AeonAxisProductions]

well abzan wouldnt be the number 1 played deck (pre origins) without it lol

[@ItRhymesWith]

Abzan nowhere near dominated Standard the way Stoneforge and Jace did