Sony 35mm f/1.4GM vs 24mm f/1.4GM in APS-C mode on A7RIV

[@joeblack4026]

i did compare the 24gm in crop with 35 1.8 sony and GN is actually lot better so Ive sold the 35 and Im only usin 24 as 24 and as 37ish lens. Totally happy with it.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

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[@dannyhsu8372]

Really hope to see the 35gm in crop mode vs 50gm !

[@marioarias9942]

The crop mode can get you a little more distance from your subject which might sometimes be advantageous and even 26 or even 10mp is enough for sharp 8x10 or even larger printed pictures on full farme.

[@forrestgalt2832]

Assign a 'C' button to shift the crop to 36 instantaneously, shoot both. Nice video, thank you for your work here!

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Thank you my friend!

[@aim_qat]

Thank you Magic for this great video, What you recommend for video 24mm 1.4/ 35mm 1.4 OR 24-70mm 2.8 😃👍

[@ReelRoyalty]

Thanks for this video! Literally answered my question to the T. 👊🏽 And Yesss!!! Let’s see a video for the 35mm to 52 in crop mode vs the native 50mm ! 😃

[@borrie321]

Hi Magic, nice video, thats why I bought the 24 mm1.4 for my A1. Can crop it to 35mm. I also do this with my 50mm 1.2 and use this as a 75 mm portrait lens.

[@williamhindle4366]

I think if you stop the 35mm to f2 and not f1.8 it might be the same (f/1.4x1.5 = f2.1) so the 24GM would give an equivalent field of view and aperture of a 36mm f/2.1

[@bigbubu75]

Like James corectly said, it‘s not the f-stop wich makes the bokeh on the 35 smoother, it‘s the compression of the 35mm vs 24mm. It’s all about the physical focal length vs fake zoom. And it’s the reason why it is so difficult to make good super wide primes for MFT. I tried aps-c Fuji 56/1.2 wich „want‘s“ to be a 85/1.4....very good but not the same bokeh smoothness. Love your content, keep em coming and hope for this channel to grow fast

[@carloambisyoso_]

I don’t even have a camera but I’m still watching and searching what’s better lens. 😅

[@M.Montgomery]

😂 did you already get a camera?

[@movenmvrl1795]

great video, I have a A7R4 and this is exactly the reason why I have the 24mm GM and did not bother to get a 35mm GM. Instead though, I use that money towards the new 50mm 1.2 GM :)

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Smart! 🕺🏻

[@himalayapatel2052]

I did the same as you!

[@Mr321Gabriel]

Ihave the 24GM and 50GM, greath combination!

[@yannickderennes996]

Yes please Magic bring the video with the 35 GM in APS-C mode 🤩!

[@napparitm]

I use the 24gm in crop mode a fear bit! I've gotten use to the 24mm field of view so I usually choose that over the 35mm lens but at some cases it is more convenient to just use crop mode rather than start the hassle of changing lenses. In my A7R3's the 18mpx is plenty when keeping in mind how are the photos actually used. Ps. I think the bigger bokeh balls in 35mm is due to the lens compression.

[@jamesseward9263]

Yes the 24mm has smaller bokeh balls in crop mode because it is still a 24mm pushing the background further away as oppose to to the higher magnification of the 35mm bringing the background closer to your subject. You can see it in your example images where the background distances are different even when the 24mm is cropped. Just the design differences of the glass to get their desired focal length 😉

[@user-qo6ue7iw3r]

Seeing the spot on the sensor at the 4:17 mark is like hearing the scratching of an old school chalkboard with your fingernails.

[@cameraprepper7938]

I have the Sony 24mm 1.4 GM which I often use on mine Sony A7RIV/A7RIVA Cameras in APSC mode, the Sony 35mm 1.4 GM are not one i want, I got the Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 35mm 2.0 Aspherical which are light, compact and built like a tank and the optical image quality are just as good as the Sony 35mm 1.4 GM, so a very easy choice for me, I do manual focusing 99.99% of the time !

[@papsny]

20, 35, 50, 135 are my focal lengths. I do agree with cropping the 24mm but i sold mine to replace it with the 20mm 1.8 for the minimum focusing distance and extra width. Great video as always magic

[@exonorated5092]

Currently have the 20mm amd 85mm sigma. Is the 20mm and 35mm gm different enough to be worth?

[@arhon888]

Thanks for the comparison. Two great lenses. I the bokah balls are smaller for the 24mm do to perspective, ie. the background is being thrown further away. When cropping, you you essentially have the same wider angle of view, only cropped👍🏼

[@lancenig]

Thank you, I shoot an apsc so these videos give me some idea of what to expect from putting a ff lens on my a6400!!

[@dataecstasy]

to me 24mm image quality looked better...is it ?

[@mickue]

I love my 24mm and I use it quite often also in crop Mode. For me this a great focal length.

[@NoahCBanks]

Very helpful! I’ve been debating between these two as I have the 50mm and looking for a wide. I might go for the 24mm!

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Thanks for watching, I’m glad you enjoyed it! Yep, you might get away with just 24mm :) Which camera do you use?

[@NoahCBanks]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer agreed! A7c (s35 but hope to upgrade to a7iv with higher mp when it comes out) and a7s3 (clear image zoom during video)

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

For video the aps-c mode is awesome as you don’t loose anything! With A7C crop gives 10mpx, which is not a lot, but definitely can be useful. Yeah, I’m hoping for camera with 30+ mpx too!

[@pedrol.5417]

Very good video. The 35mm 1.4 is a magic lens

[@ottoselles6367]

I have used the crop mode extensively on the 24 mm GM in some portrait sessions. The only major problem on the A7RIII is if you need to crop that image even more, then the file can get pretty small. As a result, I am moving to using my 24 mm for landscapes mostly and got the 35 mm GM for portrait sessions (great lens!). By the way, do you think it is worth the investment to switch to the A7RIV? Or just wait it out until an A7RV comes out? I can't afford the A1.

[@orlandorolon6139]

Gave up the 24mm for the 35mm. I miss it. For me the 24mm was much sharper and just had overall better quality photo. Soon will sell my 35 and get my 24 back.

[@ViktorJohansson1]

Ah, I’m tempted to sell my 24mm for the 35mm, but will have to chip in some extra for it.. Maybe it’s not worth it? The 24mm is a killer lens after all

[@rickt.8866]

24 GM is a beast for sure. The 35mm GM is the best 35 I’ve ever used, so I’m getting one to compliment my 24 GM

[@stanleeger4711]

I believe DOFSimulator is correct. The DOF of the 24/1.4 in crop mode is about f/2.1. That's why at 7:30 the bokeh balls are bigger on the 35/1.4 stopped down to f/1.8 than they are on the 24/1.4 at f/1.4 in crop mode .

[@jamesjackson4264]

The balls are bigger not because of DOF but because of lens compression. 35 vs 24 not 1.4 vs 2.1.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

I wondered about that too f/2.1 and f/1.8 too, but as you can see 24 on crop looks exactly like 35/1.8. So the difference between 35/18 and 35GM at 1.8 is surprising, might be due to slight difference in the focal length? Maybe one is like shorter and second longer… not sure 🤷🏻‍♂️ The compression though should be the same for 35 on FF and 24 on crop.

[@stanleeger4711]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer You're right! I missed that the image on the right had a larger magnification.

[@Eraserhead1984]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer I think it has to do with mechanical vignetting. Stopping a lens down reduces the effect; see cat eyes disappearing when slightly stopped down on some (or all?) lenses. With the vignetting gone, the circles appear larger than an equivalent lens wide open.

[@sailonstellarwinds]

​@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Indeed, I'm willing to bet it's due to the focal length on the label of a lens being an approximation. Makes no sense to release a 33.96 mm lens, even though that's what your optical formula has produced, for marketing reasons etc. Also consider the fact that the GM focus breathes, so it's probably exactly 35 mm at some point in its focus throw, but nowhere else :)

[@pedrol.5417]

Please , how about 35mm in APSC mode ?

[@janvanroekel6787]

Using wider lenses.... the difference in distortion 24mm vs 35mm (or less in 35mm vs 50mm) should as well be corrected in post.....

[@ramachandra64]

Hi, Very nice video . what about the distortion ? is the distotion controlled/minimised in crop mode? as the 35mm lens has less distotion compared to 24mm.

[@alexisseary6538]

You would be stepping further back in crop mode so distortion shouldn't present an issue

[@ramachandra64]

@@alexisseary6538 Thank You

[@gregory.chalenko]

Thank you for the great hands on comparison! 35mm at f/1.8 gives you a stronger background defocusing because although the relative aperture size is the same, it's relative to the focal length, and different focal lengths will have different actual aperture size with the same f-number. f stands for focal length. So, f/1.8 for a 35mm lens means actual aperture size of 35/1.8=19.4mm, whereas f/1.8 for a 24mm lens is 24/1.8=13.3mm

[@moodyfuck3965]

Same scenario however using a7siii and shooting video. Will 1.5 crop on 24 retain enough information for 4K video ?

[@gaetanomarrone1991]

i'm just selling the 35 1.8 for the 24 1.4. With my tamron 35 150 will be a great couple

[@rickt.8866]

Just purchased the 24mm GM and love it! I’m also getting the 35mm GM to round out my kit. I also have the TAMRON 35-150 which is an awesome zoom lens on my Sony A7 IV. I’m getting the best GM primes to take advantage of my future Sony A7RV purchase.

[@miles5790]

is that just crop and make the apeture from 1.4 to 2.1,61mp to 26mp?what about the distortion?it is still 24mm distortion?

[@johnmoon822]

If I need to pair my 85mm (for portrait, bokeh) with one of those two lenses, which one would make a better combo? Thx.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

I’d say 35 - easier to shoot with, amazing all arounder

[@johnmoon822]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer thank you. Subscribed.

[@TerraThink]

7:28 "The bokeh balls are a bit bigger " Because an f1.4 full frame lens becomes like f2.1 in crop mode (1.4 x 1.5), not f1.8?

[@bryanbuff]

Essentially, yes.

[@63MacGuy]

Where can I get that red base

[@im_mattrobertson]

Great comparison! I’m trying to decide what to do currently with my A7SIII video setup, I’ve got the 24-105 for event work but want some more primes for gimbal stuff/bokeh b roll shots/photography and I have the 35mm f1.8 currently and not super impressed with it haha. Got it to shoot wide open and the chromatic aberration is just so bad

[@Joao099Miguel]

Longer lenses have more background compression. Does the 24mm background compression change making it the same as the 35mm background compression when we make the APSC crop? Thanks

[@Jonny2won]

It does not change

[@justinmcq78]

Thank you for this video. I just got my A7riv and the lenses I currently have are the 70-180 f2.8 tamron and an 85mm 1.8 tokina. The others are aps-c, 23mm 1.4 viltrox, 56mm 1.4 sigma and 17-70mm tamron because my first camera was my a6400. Now I’m wondering what lens to get for a wider focal length that’s full frame, I just don’t have g master $.

[@kanaheiusagi]

tamron 17-28 have great value and versatility

[@Garbid]

Sigma 24 f1.4

[@nexuses1]

Only I got the 24mm for this reason.

[@johnadams3038]

Cropping/APS-C mode is jus digital zoom, you can just do that in post, it's far from being a good solution to replace a whole lens.

[@LtDeadeye]

It might effect the way you compose the shot.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

I agree with both of you here :) you are 100% correct John, but just like Tj said looking trough already cropped angle of view just gives you sort of different perspective for composition. That would be the only reason for me to use APS-C mode in photos.

[@nomad0714]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer, I think the key differences between using ff and apsc are as follows: With the A7R4, it’s like having an A6600 in one when is APSC mode. Examples of key differences: 1) Resolution: A7R4 in APSC mode is ~26MP (=~60.4MP/2.25) vs. A6600 at 24MP; 2) EFL (effective focal length) vs FOV (field of view). When A7R4 is in APSC mode, the FOV is cropped by 1.5, but the EFL is still 1.0, hence why you don’t lose one stop of light as would with A6600 if you were using a ff lens on each body. Hence the bokeh will be smaller than the 35mm as the EFL is still 1.0 at 24mm (just FOV is at 36mm) meanwhile the 35mm EFL is at 35mm with more compression and more blur and bokeh balls will be bigger being at 35mm zoomed in 3) AF points: With A7R4, you get 74% coverage in ff (567 PDAF and 425 CDAF) but 100% coverage in APSC mode because the FOV is now cropped in by 1.5 Also the 35mm has the new nano AR coding ii, which will reduce ghosting and flare better than the 24mm. But for video, if you manual focus, it has more focus breathing. I hope I’m explaining it correctly.

[@user-ev3ex7ey6g]

This was helpful for me to see the real world difference, thank you very much, Magic

[@jamesseward9263]

Is there any color differences In the two lenses ? I have both the 24mm and the new 50mm 1.4 GM and would like the colors to match. Thanks 😊

[@thefrenchexpedition]

Everyone says it’s the same as cropping but it’s not cause you still get compression in APS-C mode

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Nope. Not true

[@thefrenchexpedition]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer I have a 35mm and you can see the compression in the background in all of my photos when you go into aps-c mode to 52mm so yes it's there just less blur. take the photo at 35mm then take some steps back and go in to aps-c mode and take the same photo composition with same framing. you will see. I would say its not as prominent with 24mm into aps-c mode though.

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

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[@thefrenchexpedition]

@@MagicWeddingPhotographer you are cropping in post. I'm not talking about cropping in post. if you crop in post you will not not get the compression of course. like I said take a 35mm and take a photo with object not close to a wall and then go into crop mode on camera and take steps back until you have same framing and take another photo. it will be compressed. so you do get two focal length out of it. ive been doing this couple years now. its great.

[@stanley8131]

i decide to buy 24mm 1.4GM 2 in 1

[@hiawrj]

Awesome video

[@MagicWeddingPhotographer]

Thanks dude! 🕺🏻

[@ooharloo]

85mn 1.4 apsc vs 135mm 1.8

[@happy030]

The Bokeh is on both smooth!

[@SteveHasACamera]

24mm 1.4 in APSC is about 36mm F2.1’ish

[@justinmcq78]

Cześć. Twój film jest świetny. moja żona też jest z polski.

[@michaelkerekesh2442]

Thank you for this review! But I love, what Peter Lindbergh said about photography: "Photography has to happen in the camera. It doesn't happen in Photoshop or postproduction. I'm far from being finished with the camera. That's a kind of restraint, and when you reduce yourself to something, that's when it gets interesting. I don't crop images after shooting: the framing is done in the camera. This sometimes leads me to find myself really close to the subject, creating a very strong bond." So, crop mode is wrong way, it kills creativity.

[@alexisseary6538]

I like this idea, but crop mode on Sony does happen in camera as you shoot, so it is aligned with this idea of photography happening in the camera and not in Photoshop.

[@ldmndz4652]

Doesn't matter if its "crop mode" or not..you can't get away from the science and physics of these focal differences..lol..the main and key differences is compression and distortion it might be a lot noticeable or might be a little bit but you can't get away from these two main factors and physics lol....portraits you still get more distortion even if you try to match up the models exact composition in the frame between a 24 "crop mode" and 35 "full frame"..but there will be a difference..even more noticeable an example between 24 and 35 "full frame"..the background compression is always the give away when you look at comparison photos between any different focal lengths..but "crop mode" is definitely handy in some situations for that "extra reach"..the crop mode will look close to the lens you are trying to "match" but it will not look exactly the same as if you have the real said focal length lens..

[@vincenzodellama7158]

You are completely wrong... Perspective distortion is about the distance between the camera and the subject you won't get more perspective distortion on a cropped 24mm and non cropped 35mm when you are shooting both from the same distance.

[@georgeverdzadze7063]

I owned both lenses and obviously a picture quality way better on 35mm than on 24.

[@bryanbuff]

Huh?