Magna Graecia: Italian Greeks? (Greek Colonization)

[@zoran8357]

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[@dudeldudel666]

nice, i love hearing about greeks outside of greece

[@ermioniburgess8720]

Cumea Greek alphabet had the letter C and F .The Greeks gave them this alphabet to Etruscans and then Etruscans to the Romans..

[@Andy-yc3bq]

Etruscans as we say tosk?

[@yervandmatevosian2706]

great work bro, keep it up💪 Real happy this came up on my recs

[@lucius_cursor]

Well done!

[@Ελλάδα-ω3θ]

EXCELLENT job. Your Greek were not so bad. Thanx for that video.

[@BombaycityNirvana]

it's a very controversial concept for a non-Italian, but I'll try to explain it, the Greeks who arrived in Italy after a while felt completely Italian, a bit like the Americans compared to the English, this is the right comparison, and they were called italios. and they were very distinct from the Greeks of the Hellenic peninsula among other things, the poleis of Magna Graecia were completely independent and even Syracuse, which was the greatest power before Rome destroyed Athens in the 4th century BC. in the Syracuse Athens war. the origins of Italy are not found with the Romans but with the Italiots, from whom we in southern Italy descend, that is, the Greeks of Italy, who laid the foundations of philosophy, art, science, mechanics, music, etc. Socrates was also influenced by the school of Elea, of Parmenides and Zeno.

[@elenilepouri7253]

These were city- states too like in motherland( Greece') had always relations with their mother cities in Greece - had always civik wars as in Greece and participated in Olympic games - exclusive for Greeks. Their phylosophy and sciences based on their mother cities from Greece or M Asia and many famous scientist- philosophers settled in S Italy from Greece- Archimedes Pythagoras etc

[@Texasmade74]

30% of my dna comes from the northern Campania region of southern Italy and it's well documented that the people's there were the Sammnites,Etruscans,etc and around the 8th century BCE Greeks established colonies all throughout southern Italy. They mixed a lot to dur to the large amount of genetic similarities between Greeks and southern Italian dna from scientific studies

[@Texasmade74]

3 more percent comes from Cyprus

[@nicolemakropoulos98]

Im half Greek myself and love hearing about the Greek heritage of people from other countries like Italy, Ukraine etc. Its super fascinating and shows that Greeks enriched the cultures of these countries over the millennia 🙏

[@rengarthedwarf4029]

Great video on a topic I have been heavily interested in. May I ask, what sources did you use for your information? I would be interested in checking out the source material for further interest.

[@idiottalkshistory]

Of course, I keep forgetting to put those in the description. Sorry about that! "The Greeks Overseas: Their Early Colonies and Trade" by John Boardman "The Greek cities of Magna Graecia and Sicily" by Lorena Jannelli (might be really hard to get) "A Companion to the Classical Greek World" by Konrad Kinzl (really good book that basically goes over all of classical/archaic Greek history) "Geographica" by Strabo "The Histories" by Polybius "The History of the Peloponnesian War" by Thucydides "The Histories" I,II, and III by Herodotus I think that's about it. You should be able to find the older sources online for free. The others might be a little hard to find, but I think they can all be rented on Amazon (don't quote me on that though). Glad you enjoyed and hopefully you enjoy some of these sources!

[@rengarthedwarf4029]

@@idiottalkshistory bro you are the GOAT! THE GOAT! Instant subscribe and like

[@ermioniburgess8720]

​@idiottalkshistory I learn about Magna Grecia or Megali Ellada in school and educated in Cyprus.Is exactly as he says.

[@wilburdemayorga1821]

on my dna test i found a great grandfather from calabria name antonio macripoli i think I got my greek ancestry from him

[@sarah_fides]

Emporia is plural, you don't need to say "emporias"... Also, the singular of emporia is emporion. One emporion, two emporia :)

[@kalixkatt]

What source do you have for greek having a popultaion of 10 million around 500 bc? What areas did this acount for?

[@ecurewitz]

Greece’s population was 10,000,000 in 500 BCE? That’s what Greece’s population is now. Does that include the colonies?

[@VinnieG-]

from what I looked up around greece itself 1.5 - 3 milion, but all greek colonies together an estimated 4-8 million

[@idiottalkshistory]

That includes all of Greece proper along with the Anatolian Greek cities. Sorry should have been a bit clearer on that! Although this is all really just guess work, it's really hard for us to accurately guess populations. Thanks for watching!

[@sakisathan9176]

Where did you find this number, my friend? There were roughly a million Greeks, and now, with Greeks abroad, there are about twenty million

[@JoeyP946]

hi

[@johngarofano7356]

You are exaggerating the population a little, arent you?😂

[@idiottalkshistory]

Actually no! Those are our best estimates for the period. To be fair though it is extremely hard to track population at this point in history so it may or may not be accurate! Thanks for watching!

[@johngarofano7356]

@@idiottalkshistory thank you for your reply ,and I think you are right ,I looked it up,

[@NaskoČašić]

Abla. Tyska. Majka. To.

[@perun814]

in ww2 the greeks were avid collectors of Italian ears

[@BlupillatiSchifosi]

" greeks" . Turks/ byzantians you mean. Authentic ancient Grerks are southern italians.

[@johngarofano7356]

Typical idiotic comment ,by very uneducated people,only reflects how childish you are go and read Captain Corelli Mandolin, based on a true story,that is why I am proud to say even though I come from southern Italy ,I have 95% Italian dna , and only a minimum amount of Greek dna,

[@EliasGeorgiou-h7j]

Greek people save hundreds of italian soldiers from germany slaughter,you albanian troll

[@kalixkatt]

What source do you have for greek having a popultaion of 10 million around 500 bc? What areas did this acount for?

[@idiottalkshistory]

The main source is for that is the Atlas of World Population History by Colin McEvedy. As far as I am aware despite the source being a little old, it's methodology and conclusions are still solid. I should have been a bit clearer in the video on this point but this includes all of Greece proper as well as the Greek cities of Anatolia, Greece proper had something like 4 million while Anatolia had somewhere around 6 million. This all being said, this is all basically guess work as it is extremely hard to calculate population statistics this far back in history. 10 million is a rough estimate, we do know for a fact that round this time the population in Greece exploded and it was that explosion that drove that first wave of colonization into Italy. Hope this helps! Thanks for watching!