Magnetic Energy - Crude Magnet Disc Challenge!

After seeing a fake magnet / magnetic 'free energy' video, I was asked to try and also make a crude version of magnets on a disc and see if there is any truth to the theory.
I have an inkling that unless you are someone like Nikola Tesla, then its going to be quite a challenge for someone to actually make this a reality!

[@iamuniverszl522]

He put his magnets on the disk the wrong way.. but I think he was just protecting his life .

[@jorexthox4330]

5:05 just turn on or off the the STATIONARY MAGNET 🧲 AT THE RIGHT TIME 🤯... The magnet wheel 🛞 should produce just enough ⚡ electrical juice with the 90% spin and then turned on or off the STATIONARY MAGNET 🧲... Or just simply INCREASE THE POWER of the STATIONARY MAGNET 🧲 with an electric ⚡ jolt at the RIGHT TIME to push the magnet wheel 🛞 ... Then repeat 🔁

[@jorexthox4330]

You should be Able to unlock 🔓 more energy than put in because of kinetic energy latent in magnet's

[@williamholness2089]

Your diagrams drawn on the disc were more likely to have success. Notice your magnet spots you marked with dark tape were angled keeping the opposing pole at the opposite end of each magnet away from your target zone of ideal magnetic propulsion. But when you mounted the magnets you put them all in line with the edge which unfortunately allows the opposite pole (magnetic field) to come in contact with your target zone, causing magnetic braking, robbing you of the propulsion you have between your bigger drive magnet and your smaller repeller magnets. Do you see what I mean.? Put them all at angles keeping the opposing force (attractive force) further in and away. Follow your own example of the dark tape marks on your disc.

[@joshuabowkley3490]

INTERESTING. i WAS THINKING ABOUT PUTTING THE OPPOSING POLE IN LEAD POSITION, AND MULTIPLE FIXED MAGNETS POSSIBLE ON ANOTHER GEAR (MAYBE ONE THAT CANNOT SPIN AS QUICK)

[@daveboyt6810]

There is one adjustment that I'd love to see. Remove the magnet on the pedestal, and compare the spin time. That would at least give you a control to see whether the magnets are affecting the rotation. Also, you might try wrapping a string around the shaft connected to a weight through a pulley so you can give every configuration exactly the same amount of energy when you spin it up. If you come up with ANY configuration that is better than free spin with no fixed magnet you will have my attention!

[@kentestes9776]

The positioning of the magnets on the spinning wheel will make a big difference as does your size and dimension of your magnetic propeller. Having that single force more focused would provide the same stream like influence of flowing water

[@kentestes9776]

Ie not parallel to the circular edge but rather angled to recieve the directed blow from the single opposing force which needs repositioned also. Might even look into an over tube wrap of magnetic blocking material to focus the magnetic wave.

[@antoniovilarinho7858]

Excelente ganhou mais um inscrito pela honestidade

[@joeblowjohnny2297]

Got to put both wheel on a gear drive to sync it at the right moment for a continuous push ! Kinda like a cam shaft in time with piston and the valve to keep it moving .

[@markholloway9638]

One problem is the angle of the magnets on your wheel., they need to be more perpendicular to your stationary magnet. The second problem you have is that you need a “shield” on your stationary magnet ( like the ones they use on audio speakers) to dampen the field around the sides of the stationary magnet. This concept will work and yes you are on the verge of getting it right. Very honest and well made video. Thanks for sharing your experiment.

[@travislovelace7619]

Sir have you done what you say?

[@gmstream9259]

Yup, “if you can block (or shield) a magnetic field, you can make a permanent magnet motor.”

[@MPHJR]

This is cool. I got mine to spin for 9 minutes and 10 sec without a bearing using a vertical setup and levitation. I was unaware of the challenge.

[@chusdiaz9160]

😂😂😂 También se puede hacer por mas tiempo y superior a 9 minutos y sin imanes ,una simple peonza en casi levitación y un fuerte giro de manos 💁

[@blackops84321]

You might try 2 or 3 large repelling magnets and offset them just enough so that when one wants to pull on the wheel the other one will start pushing then add a 3rd to go just about 1/8 behind where the other magnet begins to push. That way there is always one or 2 pushing and over taking the ones pulling.

[@ManyHeavens42]

they did that what was needed was a bridge in the gap! All we had to do was slow down,

[@DL-kc8fc]

No.

[@Dr_Wrong]

Magnetic fields don't overlap so pressing them close just warps the field, but remains balanced. You'd need to narrow/warp/eliminate/short circuit/reroute a portion of the field attracting the magnets.

[@BaptistJoshua]

Rig the main sending magnet(left) on a gear system so it moves away and back towards the wheels at time where it is only present when opposing a passing magnet on the wheel. This is easier if you only have one magnet on the wheel. This way it misses a magnet when attracted and then realigns just as the opposing are of the magnet on the wheel passes by. Kind of like kicking off the ground while on a scooter. Make contact for a moment of thrust, then back away, then again at the precise moment best for thrust(opposing magnetic force).

[@parrotshootist3004]

Or perhaps use two opposing magnets, on a see saw arm, offset to the spacing between the magnets on the wheel. So the push, moves the next magnet closer in relative to peak push. Might work..

[@BaptistJoshua]

@@parrotshootist3004 As long as it cannot reach equilibrium.

[@BaptistJoshua]

@@parrotshootist3004 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Romans 3:23 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9 “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.” Romans 3:19-20 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Romans 10:9-10

[@parrotshootist3004]

@@BaptistJoshua get the spacing right and it should have to oscillate. But without trying it, that's the challenge to over come.

[@BaptistJoshua]

@@parrotshootist3004 Yep.

[@megapro95]

Turn the system 90⁰ and use a circumferential magnetic bearing system as opposed to mechanical bearings. Use permanent magnets throughout the rig. If youre able to use a halbach arrangement while focusing on the negative charged pole for the rotor magnets, perhaps it may yield better results? Perhaps even using a small halbach array focusing on a negative charged pile for the propulsion magnet? (Edit) Also, perhaps instead of using a physical stabilizer as most magnetic bearing systems use, you could incorporate the same magnetically repulsive properties to keep the rotor stable within the magnetic bearing system.

[@tonyromano8337]

Make one so we can see 👍

[@LifeProject44]

Mu-metal would shield the magnetic interference between the magnets which should focus the magnetic field of the opposing magnets a bit better, also the perendev motor uses the same concept but has 3 rows of magnets and each row is a bit offset from the other to give it that push in the spaces where it wants to stop spinning

[@joshuabowkley3490]

I ALSO HAD THIS IDEA IN A BRAINSTORM BUT FIGURED THAT THE ATTRACTION WOULD CAUSE A PROBLEM VS THIS SPINNING FOR EVER WITH LITTLE ENERGY TO START OR A CONSTANT LOW VOLT DC TO IT. MAYBE THIS PAIRED WITH A RHODIN COIL AND 1--300 MLV. ANYWAY SOMETHING THAT WOULD SYMCRONIZE/STABALIZE THE MAGNETIC FIELDS ,AND PRODUCE MORE ENERGY THAN BEING INPUT.

[@benvaneeden2460]

Yes that's why you need a bismuth jacket around the magnets

[@GWAForUTBE]

The bismuth acts as a magnetic shield?

[@andresgalviz315]

Bismuth is useless

[@duncandemicoli1951]

I had the same idea 20 years ago, except instead of one external magnet, I made a circle of magnets around the wheel. I’m going to build it pretty soon and see the results

[@woozy7405]

The problem is without using electricity it will always stop at some point

[@chrisadmaley]

I can tell you the results, it won't work.

[@woozy7405]

@@chrisadmaley Lmfao

[@chrisadmaley]

@@woozy7405 people are so dumb about magnets they have no idea how they work lol

[@daisystabs5502]

​@Psi Starcraft it's fun to challange our brains and come up with new ways and try them out some will work some won't. Don't discourage them from trying.

[@peterk.4266]

Even though this demonstration validates the 1st law of thermodynamics, I think this just might be one of very few legit, semi-scientific attempts at harvesting "free" energy out of set of magnets. Thank you for showing us your attempt.

[@minititan6205]

questa è l'ennesima dimostrazione che conferma quanto la stragrande maggioranza della gente non abbia bene in mente il concetto di energia e ne che cosa sia esattamente l'energia. Si continueranno purtroppo a vedere questi video che non dimostrano e che non possono dimostrare un cazzo, sa per quanto secoli ancora.

[@drienkm]

Do you believe it possible for magnets to produce energy? Are you sure you arent mistaking force for energy?

[@daveschmelling962]

I would try to put some type of insulation on the back side of the magnet spinning on the disc because that's where it seems to be attracting

[@andreasschmitt5805]

Then do it.

[@RogueLegend999]

Hard disks have insulating metals. I have a bunch of them. If you sandwich that metal between 2 neodymium magnets, there is no attraction

[@awakendsails]

Mine used to work until I read about a thing called thermodynamics. Seems my knowledge broke it lol

[@bluefrog8670]

According to thermodynamics, a magnet can't stick forever, it must have been charged up and some day all that lifting will deplete its energy, right?

[@Santanalsls]

What I use a magnet which pushes it instead of attracting it. 🤔

[@domenicozagari2443]

Maybe you need a cam to lift the arm and let the magnetic pass and then fall to push it again.

[@jeffreydani8616]

One who knows nature and the universe geometry can unlock this kind of mechanical things that we seem hard to solve. By seeing this you are missing out on using gravity mechanism and the conical spiral mechanism. The gravitational push that made the magnets to rotate was indeed you but the loop that will make the gravitational push constantly rotating will be the conical spiral mechanism. Of course in gravity what goes up must eventually come down but when the conical spiral mechanism is added it will seem that what goes up keeps coming down, it repeats the process.

[@MrHichammohsen1]

Nice build. What if you add a belt between the wheel and the fixed magnet bolt and make it rotate so it gives it a push

[@Runescope]

I don't know a lot about magnets, but is there a kind of shielding you could put along side of the big magnet on the stand so it's field didn't extend sideways and slow down the wheel? So that the field does only extend forwards?

[@drienkm]

The thing to understand about magnetic fields is you can't cut off part of them. You can guide the field, spread it out, or concentrate it, but it will maintain the same characteristics. In the common visualization of "lines" used to understand the spatial field distribution, a particular line will always be a continuous loop through the magnet through the space around it. All you can do is guide the loop with various materials or other fields.

[@DL-kc8fc]

Cannot. The magnetic field must always be closed in order to show a seeming resistance as a "force". Ergo, this "force" only manifests if there is a closed magnetic field. If there was a mythical mono-polar magnet, it would be possible, even if it would not be clear what it closed with its magnetic field. Fortunately, monopolar magnet does not exist despite the wishes of fantasts. But there is an alternative - a static electric field that actually creates such monopoles against a grounded counterpart. It would be good to examine electrostatic motors. Many people have already verified the malfunction of the magnetic engines ála Perpetuum Mobile, both scientists and fools.

[@kentestes9776]

Bimuth

[@tomf4512]

It's called cogging and the laws of thermal dynamics. Probably the first honest video I've seen on this topic

[@Maurizio4672]

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[@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st]

Good honest approach - I've heard that some people have got only Magnets (no steel) to work - Howard Johnson's were only Magnet's but were various shapes and types - grades etc - Permanent Magnet Motors are both fascinating and frustrating - I've also read that when they oscillate and bounce around back and forth a bunch of times you are getting close it is like there is some 'force' trying to escape if we can just figure it out

[@waltervolleamere8639]

Hi ,you need fixed magnets all around not just the one fixed magnet and then each fixed magnet will push the magnet on the wheel when they come in the field of each other. That's the way motors work, not just one fixed magnet. Great video Walter from Walton Liverpool

[@randolphhill733]

That's a great experiment. Straight cylinders seem to be the hindrance. Curving the unwanted pole towards center and away from the perimeter looks like the answer.

[@kookiemunster100]

What about using a piece underneath that spins the magnets on the disk that then spins them ever so slightly enough to make them repel and attract at the appropriate times. Or using an electro magnet that pulses right when the magnets pass it instead of constant energy of a permanent magnet?

[@FatalShockKustom]

I agree. I was thinking a cam gear that just redirects the pushing magnet’s force at the appropriate time in the cycle. Like ignition timing on a vehicle.

[@00naruhina]

I've always thought that something like this would be useful in terms of energy generation. But seeing how the fields interact, It makes sense why its not a thing to me now

[@JCanes-zz1zr]

Insulate is the key

[@CybilPeck]

Dont use any attracting from the magnets. Only use the magnets to repel. Any magnets that attract to each other will cause it to stop and freeze.angle them so that they will not be able to face each other until its already going to pass it. like on a fan blade that when its going to passby or over it wil be going to fast to do anything but keep going

[@Leouniteus369]

One question why did you not make it like the plans? So that the attractive poll is further away than the opposing poll?

[@haddow777]

I've fallen down this rabbit hole myself. I finally came the realization that a force is not energy. It seems so much like it, especially as it's a real thing despite us not being able to see it or feel it without holding a magnet or material that interacts with a magnet. The realization I finally came to was that energy is simply a change in state. Magnetic fields are constants, not changing, like Earth's gravity. When you spin the wheel, you introduce kinetic force into the equation. It may seem like when it takes off, that you aren't putting an equal force in, but you are forgetting the initial potential energy you put into the system when placing the wheel in position. With just one or a few magnets, it probably wasn't any, as you likely kept the magnets far from each other initially. So, you had to fight the magnet hard to position it at the point it would repel. When the wheel was full of magnets though, you couldn't keep the magnets separated, so it probably took a lot more work getting the wheel into position. That extra effort was building up quite a bit of potential energy into the system. What your really doing is making a low friction bearing, but there are opposing forces that still fight the turning. Plus, as no real energy is being added, eventually friction will deplete what was. You may improve things more if you alter the angle of the magnets so only the repelling pole is facing out. It will change the bumpiness of the fields. Still won't make it turn for forever, but may turn it longer.

[@stevenelson9640]

I wonder if it would increase the efficiency to have the stationary magnet an electromagnet that would switch off at the moment of drag and switch back on at the place of push?

[@o.w.dobbins6927]

Also, I have to remind myself of this quote every now and then: "Still, the inviolability of the laws of physics has not stopped the curious from ignoring them or trying to break them.".....and that's called "Science".

[@petesshed8422]

Hi, thanks very much for the comments and thanks for the great quotation! I too, love to 'tinker' with ideas and put things to the test!

[@burklander3338]

Have you thought of using a longer cylindrical magnet so that the poles are further apart and using some magnetic shielding so that the field doesn't catch the magnet the moment it passes the stationary magnet?

[@harrytopia282]

It would make no difference with longer magnets, if he took the stater magnet away completely it would spin a lot longer, magnetic shielding well do absolutely nothing. The force required to repell the magnets is the same as their attracting forces therefore there is zero gain magnetic shielding or not, magnets do not behave like rockets so angling them doesn't do nothing.

[@pekvek]

easy fix is to cut away the other pole

[@ManyHeavens42]

Everything in the universe needs a bridge or Gap,or Holes, so there easy to fill up. Spacer's takes off the Edges, Gears !No more Drop off.

[@bennynash6655]

what happens if you swap the magnets pulling the larger magnetic on the disk and and the smaller one on the stand and i was surprised at how far away you have the one on the stand from teh disc.

[@ionutz89ful]

that big magnet you had in your hand, did you try to lock one on top and one on the bottom so that will create a magnetic cushin to kind of support the spinning disk? but bring them so close so they feel like pushing into each other

[@ogd3thst4r93]

I am confused as to why you didnt mount the magnets on the disk anything like the diagram with the attractive pole further away from the edge of the disc...

[@alexbrollier4779]

Though it will need energy to function, the amount it produces exceeds the amount it draws. The batteries it uses are only to start, accelerate and store energy. It will also need high voltage illumination and a cut off switch for overcharging. Then inverters can be added

[@JohnKSedor]

I think you've got the basic idea very well. It looks like adjusting the distance, magnet angle, size of magnets, etc. Will finish this idea very successfully. This is exactly the type of thinking & development needed when this Old System, based on the rebellion of Adam & Eve, is gone. It will be quite refreshing to be able to conceive and build all types of energy development for the future.

[@michaelcook3794]

Try a steel ball enclosed in a rubber tube on the circumference of the disc. then tip the unit at a 45-degree angle. then adjust the stationary magnet until it barely acts upon it.

[@seadangel]

Try using the big magnet on a moving like a piston part to avoid the attraction and put a bigger distance between the small magnets and change their angle. See of that works

[@robsonwaynneantonio9472]

What is the torque and rpm please???

[@enachelucianadrian]

It could be done with a system of cam shaft like in engines with pistons, to modify the position of magnets.

[@JoeyBlogs007]

Perhaps a master magnet with a spring arm that changes its direction and returns to its start position that's synchronised to attract the next magnet.

[@josephsmith3908]

Isn't this kinda the basis of brushless motors

[@bb5979]

What if you created a system where the magnet could be moved back and forth by the rotation at the right timing to “catch” the magnet on its way toward it within the rotation? Then move away to not apply the “pulling” force as it moves away from the magnet in the rotation?

[@d4ngerous4]

This might sound daft but have you tried something like this, imagine you had a sphere, which was all magnetic, super duper strong magnetic, then you had another magnet inside the sphere, super strong also, if you pushed the magnet towards the magnetic ball, it would move right, so would it not lift off the ground if you pushed the magnet toward the ceiling of the magnetic sphere, and if so and the weights was worked out correctly wouldnt that allow it to fly if the magnetic force was strong enough???

[@drienkm]

Nicely made video. The task you are up against is mechanically analogous to trying to get a low-friction cart to coast more laps around a continuous circuit of track by putting various hills in parts of the track. But because local gravity is spatially simpler than the fields around a little magnet, not many people see the cart lapping a hilly loop of track as an interesting problem - it's easy to see that no arrangement of hills can power the cart or even reduce average drag per lap. The same principle is true for the magnet wheel. Permanent magnets don't recieve energy from anywhere, so they have none to pass on. For the same reason, no arrangement of permanent magnets can reduce net drag on the wheel (except for magnetic bearings of course).

[@petesshed8422]

Thanks for the superb input!

[@drienkm]

@@petesshed8422 I don't know about superb, but I'm very glad it made some sense!

[@peterstephenson4935]

The cart would work if you could have a switchable anti gravity device and the magnet wheel would work with a switchable anti magnetic device. Unfortunately neither is available without putting energy in.

[@drienkm]

@@peterstephenson4935 Exactly.

[@basicuser54]

@drienkm great explanation, taught me how permanent magnets work without any effort on my part!

[@YoshBloke]

Put this on wind turbines to make them a lot more efficient. Well played mate.

[@basicuser54]

Not sure why it would make turbines more efficient? The best he was able to achieve was essentially a neutral balance between the magnets such that the wheel spun as if the metals were not magnetized at all.

[@billybobs1705]

the magnetic field is stopping me from thumbing up this video!

[@ericwelsh4853]

Maybe you could add an escapement mechanism similar to the ones in a mechanical clock? The stationary magnet could pivot so it pushes one magnet, then doesn't "catch" the next magnet.

[@flynnstone3580]

I made one that worked, I made the wheel similar to a car distributor with a cam and points. The outside magnets were spring loaded and fixed outside of the center wheel. As the repel came by the spring aloud it to pass, then come back up and pull.

[@donpennington4655]

That's a great thought. I also thought about maybe a counter weight to propel the wheel at the point that it wants to stop. Kind of like a flywheel concept. Just a thought 🤔

[@flynnstone3580]

@@donpennington4655 what if you left everything the way you have it, only if you could make the single outer magnet on the stand so it moves in and out to push each magnet on the wheel, it pulls the magnet out of the way before it attracts then pushes. You would need something like a cam and a flywheel would help. You could put the single magnet in an aluminum cylinder and have it operate like a piston. I was working on something similar but with four pistons that would have like a circular firing order.

[@donpennington4655]

@@flynnstone3580 great idea 👍

[@saeedmalik4732]

Dear we are trying to make this project since 2013 but we are still stop where we start We were not able to remove brake please guide us

[@richardminor5401]

It seems to me that the stationary magnet should be geared to come closer to the moving magnets as they pass by (Moving away from the attracting pole of the moving magnet and moving closer to the opposing poles)

[@michaelkande2374]

Was thinking the same. This could be achieved by putting gears with appropriate ratios on the axles spinning the magnets (the rotating disk and the stationary).

[@Poppy_love59]

I think the answer lies in the angle of attack. Rather than having the magnets on the disk facing only part way towards the other magnet. You should try gluing the magnets with the apposing side facing completely outward from the center of the disk so less of the attractive side is visible ! Try leaving the large stationary magnet at the same angle and then also try it facing directly at the disk.

[@harrytopia282]

Doesn't work magnets don't behave like rockets and angling them does nothing.

[@thomasmore260]

It's impossible for Nikola Tesla too but his fans John, Lucas, Marcus and Mathew posted his wonders into the internet 70 years later anyways.

[@observenotify8604]

Just like the magnetic coupling of the motor and pump, which repells and attract can create a magnetic field for continuous rotating motion detection.

[@idonotcomplyrevolution]

you need to use a paramagnetic modulator between the stationary magnet and the magnets on the disc. for instance aluminum sheet or bolts spaced slightly out of sync with the disc magnets to over-balance it etc, this prevents magnetic locking. another tip: use a slightly off-centred disc axis and use a strong spring attached to the stationary magnet, why? the magic is in over-balancing, your current setup is balanced, so wont work and this is where most citizen scientists trip up, so remember this golden rule = over-balancing. also having the disc flat/horizontal isnt taking advantage of gravity either!

[@richardminor5401]

How about placing a metal strip diffuser on the attracting pole (like metal spokes) to diffuse the attraction that is stopping the wheel from turning

[@ruffmeow9893]

Wow - I've thought about this for years. Glad someone tried it. I imagined that if the main magnet were able to spin and maybe had 2 magnets with different poles that could help

[@chrisadmaley]

You can imagine all you want lol, no matter what you do nothing will help.

[@kunalgoswami_4]

​@@chrisadmaleyhi

[@James-og6cx]

What about placing magnetic shielding where the resistance points are?

[@mr7911]

Don't suppose you know the rating of the magnets you're using? Would help alot..

[@eonreeves4324]

what if the magnet could rotate via a pulley to "time it" correctly, like you would an internal combustion engine?

[@batteriesforeverything7112]

Im thinking maybe place the outside magnet say 20 degrees and your inside magnets so they oppose in line, decreasing the effect of the attracing end of the inside magnets by distance. Just a thought

[@MagicBreeze]

Have you try it with a second or a 4th magnet? At the point where it stops make on the oposite side a magnet what push it forward. or as i sayed even a 3rd and 4th...also you could use a material beside the magnet what blocks the magnet field. If you try that please send me a link i would like to know.

[@SuperFinGuy]

Of course the magnets add energy to the system, put your keys near magnets and see how it pulls them. The problem is that it's just in one direction.

[@markhill4256]

Alternate magnets positive negative. It will remove the cog effect. As one is pulled another is pushing.

[@robertweekley5926]

Change the Flat Wheel, to a Fan Blade, secure the Wheels Magnets to the Angle of the Fan Blade Tips, place the Stationary Magnet, above the Fan Blades, such that it always sees only N-N or S-S Repulsion. Try that out!

[@haroldkline4898]

Well thought out, but this too will fail. Any open magnetic system that doesn't employ some type of shielding will always have a net force of zero. Think about when you bring like poles near each other. They repel when directly opposed to each other, but the slightest movement towards a side and they will attract. So as your positive magnet is passing by other positive poles you will get slight attraction - repulsion - slight attraction. The flaw in most magnet motor systems is using magnet on magnet drive systems. I am currently building a magnet motor that utilizes the attractive forces between permanent magnets and steel, and by doing so, eliminating the usual balance of forces and working only with attraction. I'll post a video once it's built.

[@FractalNinja]

​@@haroldkline4898what about using a halbach array of magnets on the outer magnet pusher to make the north pole larger and the south pole minimal so it catches less? Or maybe sharper geometry angles like triangle orientated instead of a ring/circle? Just some thoughts ^^

[@familygarlick179]

Hi very intoresting. what wood hapen if if you put a magnetic conduter where the drag hapens ?wood it kill the drag if in the rite place

[@bryanreed1556]

It's like getting two hydrogen atoms to fuse together but with the magnets you have to spin it so fast that it takes off on its own . If you don't spin it fast enough at the beginning it won't work.

[@THX1138-ss6nv]

I've been playing with a similar idea in my head for years but lack the materials to build it. If you turn the disc vertical and use only one magnet on the disc it would use gravity to pull it down and as it is pulled down with gravity it charges a capacitor that will discharge into a stationary magnet repelling the disc magnet when it reaches the apex of it's return arc.

[@maxcragun1700]

Nice video. Something I would like to try, is to place the magnets on the disc so that the opposing Force is pointed out and attracting force is pointed towards the center of the disc, creating a lesser magnetic field. I would like to build it, but you make the build look so easy and you have all the tools. I look forward to see if you will make this modification. It seems to me, either shielding the attractive Pole or lessening the magnetic field in relation to the opposing magnetic field will give it a more constant drive. Thank you.

[@drienkm]

There is no way to make permanent magnets drive something continuously. If our brains could visualize magnetic fields and accociated forces as easily as we can terrestrial gravity, this would be obvious to most people. 1) It would damatically violate laws of nature that have been tested and validated by countless people, countless times. 2) This specific idea has been tried countless ways and countless times by people who aren't willing to question their intuition and who have decided, conciously or not, to avoid actual physics.

[@mathiasmwingira6951]

@drienkm not true, this had been made in Tanzania and people produce free energy now.

[@drienkm]

@@mathiasmwingira6951 Are these people interested in showing their free energy devices to others? I'm always willing to look them up if you want to share details. I'm not afraid to be proven wrong. But if the natural laws are wrong, why don't we see people correcting them? Where is the analytical rigor? Where are the revised physics? I've never seen coherent analysis by anyone, genuine or deceptive, who claims free energy or over unity. I only see endless demonstrations of machines that deal with the same intuative pitfalls, over and over. It's very clear to me that these people have never understood what energy is or how it is quantified (at least the people who seem sincere).

[@DL-kc8fc]

@@drienkm Finally, someone who has it in your head.

[@chrisadmaley]

​@@mathiasmwingira6951 why make stuff up? You just sound even more lik eyou have no idea whats going on.

[@slevinshafel9395]

8:03 What about oscilation movement? in sync? or elyptic shape instead of circle. i dont throw it away.

[@موسوعهالكابتنمعتز]

The disadvantage is that you use this design of magnets and must be placed in another way

[@lordnilsson]

The magnets on the wheel ought to be placed more with the opposite pol directed against the wheel center (but not completely of course) and perhaps with a little longer magnets..!? So the opposite pols is more far away from the solid magnet.

[@jean-paulallaume8640]

It would be necessary to try with a stator composed of N+1 or N-1 of the number of the rotor to create a permanent imbalance.

[@BobBobby-ir5vq]

What if you put another post setup on the other side. But place it just off center of parallel. For example, 12 and six on a clock face make it 12 and 7.

[@matteorossi5128]

if you have a reed switches on the side of the disk and move slightly the main magnet with an electric actuator, you can do it even mechanically with some modifications, you could move the main magnet when there are the death points between magnets that slow down the wheel ... it should work

[@drienkm]

Yes, it would become an unconventional electric motor with output power somewhat less than the average power consumed by the electric actuator.

[@matteorossi5128]

@@drienkm not if you do it mechanically as I did

[@t-dasher3832]

Plus the magnets on your disc are at a different angle than the ones on the demonstration.

[@0Tirano]

What if you put a fixed magnet inside like the one outside, but all the other magnets that rotate, so these will be arranged with the magnet outside so that they are repelled, I don't know if I understood, que tal si pones un iman dentro fijo como el q esta afuera, pero todos los demas imanes que giren, asi estos se pondran ordenar con el iman d fuera para q sean repelidos, no se si me di a entender,

[@JoeyBlogs007]

It should be the placement of the magnets that initiates the motion, not the spin by the human hand.

[@jeromeperrot1097]

Understanding why a magnet engine can’t work is easy. You need to use a force from your hands in order to get a magnet closer to an other one. When you release the magnet, the same force is released and can do something like turning a disc. Friction and other forces is taking energy and you will not have the same force to get a magnet closer to the other one for the next movement. At the end the movement will stop by itself. Using a magnet is like using a spring or gravity, you can’t create energy, you need to add it at the beginning of the process :-)

[@LOOKUP-ox1ld]

How can we use this on cealing fans to make them apin withoit electricity?

[@natoshiabahner7271]

Put some type of lead plating between like poles to stop an attraction at the same time opposite poles continue to push

[@falmircamion3534]

I do not know any law of physics which make it impossible : Of course this would not be perpetual movement, because if it worked, it would end up ruining your magnet. But otherwise, It was proven that it would be impossible with central forces - however, magnetic forces are NO central forces, and therefore I personally have no idea if it can work or not... because first of all, this might only work in a very specific position both for the rotor and the stator magnets. I tried to 3D print magnet supports, but it's not easy to make them symmetrically ajustables. However, one thing I'm sure, is that to have it work work, one would need to reduce all the mechanical frictions and smooth as much as possible this locking effect. Therefor, one would need a larger number of magnets and have half or probably better : one third of the rotor/stator magnets being coprime with each other. eg : 12 vs 15 or even more.

[@brandonlamondin6228]

Add a spring lever to the push magnet, so that it bounces with spring inertia

[@yiis2086]

How would it act if you put more magnets on the outside?

[@thevaldis1167]

Okay, that's interesting, but what would happen if you put 2 opposite magnets near wheel. Wouldn't that double the power and speed?

[@Kennethcrown3720]

Why the heck would you ruin the last spin with the magnet instead of letting it spin? It just looks like you're trying to make people doubt that this possible could function.

[@bly3958]

You should also measure how many turns it would make with the same energy input without attached magnets (that adds weight). I’m pretty sure it will be even more or same, so magnets do not add anything

[@eonreeves4324]

it sucks that we don't have a way to block the field at exactly the correct time

[@ronjohnson3695]

I suggest put the magnet at a steeper angle to the point where they only just meet end to end . Put the push magnet level with the disk and closer to the magnets on the disk place it lower .Maybe even put another push magnet on the opposite side .

[@sarahthestrategist4560]

Can you disable the same opposite dipoles of these magnetics from a particular position, because according to my observation from you video the magnetic spinning had enough energy to continue until it reach his same dipole, so maybe it would spin continuously if you disable the same dipoles of these magnetics. Because the spinning stopped when it reach his opposite dipole.

[@jean-paullefaivre1161]

IMPORTANT: Try this out. I once had seen a paper that had information on how to build a FREE ENERGY/MOTOR GENERATOR. The motor/generator once started would keep running and you would get Free Over Unity Electrical Energy .The person had used Permanent Magnets and Electro Magnets with High Voltage Capacitors. With electro magnets and capacitors you can have a controlled magnetic field that stops the moment the capacitor is drained of its energy. With an all permanent magnet system you need to physically move one of the magnets away from the other or you get a clogging effect where motion of the rotor stops. By using electro magnets and capacitors or super capacitors you can have a controlled intermittent magnetic field. You can control the magnetic field with by an optical switch or better still with a solid state Hall Effect Sensor Switch. The electro magnet can be used as a generator to recharge the capacitor. You may need a diode to ensure the capacitors get the proper charging polarity. By switching a magnetic field on and off you can stop the clogging effect therefore the rotor can keep on turning and keep gaining momentum. I Reply

[@felixmeyer-g9p]

Damit das funzt, muß man erst noch den Nippel durch die Lasche ziehen, und dann mit der Kurbel ganz nach oben drehen ...

[@kimberlysolimine3161]

Could you put another stationary magnet on the other side and add three evenly on other side of disc and have a perpetual rocking motion

[@spaceman4294]

You have to use magentic shielding to counter act the attracting force. Steal or Iron is good but you need to put plastic or cardboard between the magnet and the metal. You can even put several layers but thats not really needed. Try it. After all this is all about experemintation.

[@atticuswalker8970]

Have you tried to use electromagnet with rotation switch to cut the field when it pulls. Wrap some copper and power the switch.

[@iloveclint7657]

Rotate the magnets on the wheel 90 degrees clockwise and insulate the non repelling poles.