Fatma’s Trap for Hurrem Leads to Her Own End | Magnificent Century Episode 130

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@feverspell Ай бұрын

What Suleiman says here is very important -- he knows Hurrem isn't a saint and has done many awful things throughout her life in the harem, but she never betrayed him. She never pitted her children against anyone. She was unfailingly loyal to him and by extension, his reign. That's what Mahidevran, Hatice, Fatma, and a whole lot of other people never came to grips with. She never lusted for power or riches. All she wanted was HIM.

@Redluna32 Ай бұрын

It's a part of why I've never been able to view Fatma's response as the "own" others try to paint it as either. In the Ottoman Empire, where you had to be suspicious of basically everyone in order to survive, it's incredibly easy to understand why receiving such absolute loyalty from someone would be so precious.

@ΔημΣΚ Ай бұрын

She was always loyal to him, they weren't. They were after his throne, she wasn't

@jennylaw6820 Ай бұрын

You have hit the nail on the head with your comments. The problem was that mahidrevan and the rest never accepted that because of their own ulterior motives of greed and their hunger for power.

@Sonic-e2d Ай бұрын

May be because she knew if sulaiman was removed, mustafa is the heir to throne and she would be in danger@@ΔημΣΚ

@ashscheesecakes2064 Ай бұрын

@@Sonic-e2d Considering his mother was Mahidevran? Of course Hurrem and her children would be in danger. Nevermind that it was explicitly shown that Mahidevran would be completely incapable of running the Haram anyway.

@aysha6358 Ай бұрын

All sisters of Suleiman cannot accept another lady who is smarter and intelligent than them.....a lady who outsmarted them even when they had all advantage

@chitramohanraj26 12 күн бұрын

Hurrem was an exception. So they hated her. Actually Beyhan didn't do anything. she just kept herself out of all this.

@kyriesnider4968 Ай бұрын

I despise Gulfem. She wants to be portrayed as an innocent third party, but she is part of almost every plot used against Hurrem. Helping Mahidevran, rousing sultana Hatice, whispering to valide about her previous status as a Russian slave, she also aided Sultana Sha against hurrem’s daughter. Hurrem just needs to get rid of her.

@ashscheesecakes2064 Ай бұрын

Right!? I love her but at the same time, she's standing by knowingly watching the dynasty rip itself apart and actively taking part in it sometimes only to sit back and play Matyr as if she didn't have anything to do with half of it?

@einezcrespo2107 Ай бұрын

IRL Gulfem was close to Hurrem. The show just needed an instigator when Mahidevran was banished. It's called drama.

@kyriesnider4968 Ай бұрын

@@einezcrespo2107 Yeah, I heard they did something like that with Firuze later on. That didn’t actually happen, if I remember.

@zaharahamat7684 28 күн бұрын

Absolutely right, can't stand her till now I just don't undressed why sultan suleiman keeping her for.

@chitramohanraj26 12 күн бұрын

Gulfem was both spineless and powerless. No one took her seriously.

@mariaclaudiacrespo5016 Ай бұрын

That is right - Hurrem did terrible things. I never forgave her for Mustafa.But she drew the line at her children and Suleiman. Mahidevran was a little too happy the first time Suleiman got seriously ill, way back when Suleiman's mother was Valide, so much that the Valide was furious at her. Hurrem, meanwhile, was losing her mind at the thought of losing him. Yeah, his death left her at Mustafa's mercy, but there was real heartbreak in her every time Suleiman had a brush with death.

@micheleford4282 Ай бұрын

mustafa was doing things against his father and all she did was make sure he knew it she didnt kill him but how many times did mahidevran try to kill her or her children? i dont blame hurrem the death of mustafa ensured her children wouldnt die at his hands.

@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μ Ай бұрын

Suleiman claims that he values Hurrem's loyalty. A shame he doesn't know the most fundamental thing about loyalty himself

@MariaNiemand 3 күн бұрын

and when did any of suleimans sister try to dethrone suleiman? A right never. Hurrems so called loyalty towards suleiman is a scam. She knew that she and her children would be dead if suleiman died when mustafa was alive. After mustafas death she even warned suleiman if he killed any of her children

@gelbautista1132 Ай бұрын

All sisters of Sultan Sileiman did not really love and respect him. If they did they should had accepted and loved Hurrem as his wife.

@lovelydove8770 Ай бұрын

Exactly!! At the end of the Day no one but Hurrem was truly loyal to Sultan Suleiman. She has done terrible things but only to protect herself and her children, it was never about power just survival.

@queenrm86 Ай бұрын

@@lovelydove8770I ve watched the series many times. Indeed, she did terrible things but always as a reaction to the actions of her enemies against her and her children. Always in defence. I don’t remember her plotting anything before they mistreated, abused her and tried to kill her…

@tyaskurniawan7944 Ай бұрын

Gulfem😂😂... Friend, enemy, friend again netral, enemy, friend at the end enemy again (she tried to kill Sulaiman)😅

@cisio64123 Ай бұрын

I love how Sulieman embraced and used the lesson Hurrem gave to him when he tried to make her his scapegoat for Mustafa's execution against Fatma here. She told him she was not innocent...but because of the pursuit of power the system creates neither is anyone else in the palace...even him. He also gave her the exact reason he favors Hurrem above all others ..she IS absolutely loyal to him as her Sultan and doesn't draw her children into her fight's or palace intrigues. How ridiculous and full of hypocrisy is Fatma that after all of the scheming she has done she villainizes Hurrem for her plots...which are mostly to protect her children and herself.

@almaquiroz5976 Ай бұрын

Good ridens Fatma !!! you stayed too long in that castle . Live your life and leave your brother alone.

@ΔημΣΚ Ай бұрын

Finally peace in palace, valide sultan has won everyone. Long live valide hurrem sultan! Good bye fatma hatun hahaha!!

@PilotIfad Ай бұрын

It is not appropriate to call dynasty member hatun she is a born sultana like mihrimah sultan and other dynasty princess

@ΔημΣΚ Ай бұрын

@@PilotIfad she is hatun

@Redluna32 Ай бұрын

@@PilotIfad I mean, by Suleiman's time they'd been granted that right, but Imperial princesses, did, in fact, use the title of Hatun until the reign of Bayezid II. (Just like, in real life, Suleiman was the first to give his mother the right to use the title of Sultan.)

@ΔημΣΚ Ай бұрын

@@PilotIfad don't listen to redluna, she's fatma hatun

@einezcrespo2107 Ай бұрын

Hurrem never held the title Valide. That is normally reserved for the mother of the ruling sultan. Hurrem died before Selim became Sultan. Her title is Haseki which was created for her by Suleiman. Fatma was born princess of the dynasty so she is a sultana like Mirhimah.

@kathymcgirt8944 Ай бұрын

This entire system is a dumpster fire. And I’m American - that’s really saying something given what is happening here🔥🔥💥

@GrzymiaDobr Ай бұрын

Tak było w Europie i w Azji 😢chrześcijanie atakowali islamistów a islamiści chrześcijan głupi świat zawsze chodzi o władze niewolnictwo było wszędzie 😂 pozdrawiam z Polski ❤

@jenpringle6402 Күн бұрын

Your comment honestly made me laugh. I live in Canada, lots of dumpster fires going on here

@lisawakelam8189 Ай бұрын

Gulfem won in the end. She got the boss all to herself after hurrem died

@rovenaveronica6985 16 күн бұрын

The entire familly suffered because hurem show the right place for each member of imperial familly.

@Nind-mu8ut Ай бұрын

I think she older than all of the siblings bcz she could say all this to Suleiman. And then Sha huban , Beyhan. Ig hatice was the youngest.

@Janetsalman375 Ай бұрын

Fatima does not care about hurrem other than sultan or his kids

@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μ Ай бұрын

Suleiman claims that he values Hurrem's loyalty. A shame he doesn't know the most fundamental thing about loyalty himself

@daisysailo397 Ай бұрын

Gulfem is the most cunning among them all

@Juliamarcinkowska-rk9zw Ай бұрын

Fake

@ΔημΣΚ Ай бұрын

Irl it was valide sultan who exiled her and suleiman agreed but ok similar thing here

@cisio64123 Ай бұрын

Yes because finalization of the order ultimately rested on Suleiman's agreement with it regardless of who actually gave the order....thus it became HIS will in the end.

@ΔημΣΚ Ай бұрын

@@cisio64123 not rly, she did it on her own she gave all the orders

@cisio64123 Ай бұрын

@@ΔημΣΚ But Sulieman or any Sultan had to either make , OK or allow a order for it to stick...the buck stops with him. This was a major point Hurrem made to him when he tried to scapegoat her for Mustafa's death. NOTHING happens unless the Sultan wants it and this would be especially true of exiling someone . The Valide is not the Sultan...even she only has the power the Sultan allows her...just like anyone else. Even the Valide has to answer to the Sultan for ANY choices she makes that he doesn't like . He could and did overturn any order ANYONE gave he didn't want....even his mother...so anything he didn't was ultimately HIS will.

@ΔημΣΚ Ай бұрын

@@cisio64123 that's not true, a sultan cannot involve in harem and the decisions of the valide sultan