Magnus and the Thousand Sons EXPLAINED By An Australian | Warhammer 40k Lore

[@majorkill]

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[@berndknauer6329]

Hey Majorkill, even though everbody should be subscribed to Bruva Alfabusa maybe you should link his video, when you use it. Seems fair but what do I know. Love your stuff.

[@tiesvanpinxteren2122]

is it possible that magnus was to be retrieved so the big E could clap horus while magnus was on the throne

[@ericramos9934]

Major kill Could the cane toad survive warhammer 40K

[@torcaace]

Hey majorkill what's your opinion on the Arch Warhammer being a nazi controversy?

[@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd]

can you do the abhumans please

[@jackhenwood257]

“The Emperor called a council with all of the most important people in the imperium, as well as the Primarchs.” It takes a whole lot of skill to simultaneously destroy 18 post-human demigods in 5 words. Well played MajorKill. Well played.

[@imperialfist2304]

Hottest roast since Prospero

[@dubiouscollector9763]

fuck! i didnt notice it

[@jackhenwood257]

Cristian Ojeda It’s brilliantly subtle! I had to rewind it to make sure I heard it right.

[@benoliver5593]

i didnt catch that till i reread that twice

[@psykerwave2315]

I'd hardly call primarchs people. More like towering embodiments of memes.

[@lh5125]

Magnus-God tier phsyker Leman-Monster in melee Magnus: I better get up close before i lose the advantage

[@magnuswhodidnothingwrong358]

I mean magnus punched out one of his hearts so it wasn't that horrible of a plan:)

[@midgetydeath]

If he'd used biomancy to increase his power or just fucked over Leman's fate with, well, psychic bullshit then that would've been Leman's most hilarious loss ever.

[@Leman.Russ.6thLegion]

GOT HIM

[@insertedgynamehere]

@Rill yeah he's sort of an anti psycher, or some sort of null.

[@heliosjollywolf9552]

@Rill probably not all psyker abilities, i bet emps' malcador and manus might have a bit of a harder time but they wouldnt be disabled

[@PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven]

I hope in the future he would become a good guy again cause to me Magnus and Kittens friendship is Super Canon

[@tagrerte4701]

Super canon indeed... unlike Kitten's relationship with Shadowsun.

[@baciu14]

Tagrerte what was she thinking !!?

[@Or_Am_I_Alpharius]

*DEEPEST LORE*

[@legiohysterius4624]

@@luffyd2937 I'll redeem you with this flamer slave of chaos

[@cryptosporidiom]

WHILE USUALLY I ADVOCATE FRIENDSHIP JUST AS VULKAN WOULD HAVE WANTED, I CANNOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ONLY BLACK SPACE MARINE CHAPTER TO BE SYMPATHETIC TOWARDS WHAT AMOUNTS TO A GIGANTIC DAEMONIC FRIED CHICKEN WIZARD.

[@magnum32b]

"Magnus was pretty pissed about this; he put all his skill points into intelligence, and now he had to play like a tank dps." Ha! Love it!

[@TheWarmachine375]

Ooh I don't care what universe you're from, that's gotta hurt!

[@christiandauz3742]

Yet Magnus defeated Russ on Prospero in a fistfight. Russ had to cheat to not die Had Magnus killed Russ on Prospero Horus would have won the Heresy

[@Vaille32]

Magnus did nothing wrong!!!!!

[@jaydenshepard7928]

@@christiandauz3742 He was stat buffed by chaos

[@christiandauz3742]

@@jaydenshepard7928 not on Prospero

[@tentimestay9181]

14:40 "I PUNCHED OUT ONE OF HIS HEARTS, WHY DOES NOBODY EVER REMEMBER THAT?!?!"

[@imperialfist2304]

“BECAUSE VULKAN WAS SHATTERING MY SPINE!” “YOU DONT HAVE A SPINE!” “FFFFUUUUCK YOU LEMAN!”

[@legiohysterius4624]

I remember

[@commissarbearz]

@@imperialfist2304 "I but want to give my brother a great big 'I'm totally not mad that you ruined everything forever' hug!

[@cloroxusthestainlessone4324]

@@commissarbearz "that was LORGAR!!"

[@magnusthered3692]

Lol

[@iDEATH]

Tzneetch is the best Chaos God. I mean, even if you managed to beat him, how could you be sure that wasn't all part of his plan?

[@grantdelosangeles5357]

Tzeench:"IT WAS ALL PART OF MY PLAN, EVEN THAT PART WHERE I CRIED LIKE A CHILD IN THE CORNER AFTER THE FIGHT"

[@Triumph263]

@@grantdelosangeles5357 Tzeench:"MY TEARS WENT INTO THE SEWAGE SUPPLY FOR NURGLE'S GARDEN UPSETTING THE PH LEVELS AND RUINING ALL HIS FLOWERS!"

[@TheWarmachine375]

Tzeentch the Indecisive Mollusk with severe insecurity issues

[@thelardmaker6806]

Tzeench is the funniest Chaos God, basically he has the ability to see all the possible future like an Eldar Farseer. So to get the future that it wants Tzeench launches thousands or even millions of schemes at once. Many of those plans contradict the plans of his other agents. So what you get is pure chaos and if one lands the correct path Tzeench just takes the credit and just goes. "Just as planned"

[@captainvalourous6668]

Kitten agrees 🤣

[@evankurasu3190]

Kitten: "so everything was magnus's fault?" Emperor: "Yes."

[@nillynush4899]

imagine if the webway project did not get fucked up.... humanity would dominate

[@magnuswhodidnothingwrong358]

Noooooo:(

[@captainvalourous6668]

Magnus: "𝙁𝙐𝘾𝙆 𝙔𝙊𝙐 𝙇𝙀𝙈𝘼𝙉 𝙍𝙐𝙎𝙎!" 🤬 🤣

[@rabbiama2940]

Magnus is the coolest looking Primarch, where as other Primarch wear Full power body armour Magnus here wears sleeveless armour with horn nipples. Also when the thousand sons battled an ork titan Magnus here grow in size and fought the ork Godzilla style.

[@lusverma2136]

As someone relatively new to Thousand Sons lore and 40k in general, may I ask what book that scene is from? It sounds awesome.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

@@lusverma2136 the book is A Thousand Sons "Canis Vertex had been brought down on the killing fields of Coriovallum in the last days of the war by a gargantuan war machine of the greenskin, crudely built in the image of their warlike gods. Defeat seemed inevitable until Magnus stood before the enemy colossus, wielding the power of the aether like an ancient god of war. Two giants, one mechanical, one a flesh and blood progeny of the Emperor, they had faced each other across the burning ruins, and it seemed the battle’s conclusion could not have been more foregone. But Magnus raised his arms, his feathered cloak billowed by unseen storms, and the full fury of the aether unmade the enemy war-engine in a hurricane of immaterial fire that tore the flesh of reality asunder and shook the world to its very foundations. "

[@AnimeCritical]

@@marrvynswillames4975 This feels like a metaphor. Like Magnus was powerful like a giant. That way.

[@-AxisA-]

@@AnimeCritical It's 40k. It literally happened that way it's written. Not metaphorically:D

[@Khashmonet]

As a Thousand Sons fan, this hurt me.

[@imperialfist2304]

As much as Magnus’s ‘spine’ does?

[@christiandauz3742]

As much as the fact Magnus beat Russ 1vs1 on Prospero does?

[@davidsmith8826]

Christian Dauz He punched out one of his hearts. Why does no one remember that?

[@vinnylatoria4478]

@@imperialfist2304 HE PUNCHED OUT ONE OF LEMAN'S HEARTS! WHY DOES NO ONE REMEMBER THAT!?

[@relyt2529]

Dont feel bad i'm a space wolf guy and he pretty much does this to every chapter

[@arkinseth144]

Magnus might have done nothing wrong, but he is a baaaaaaad dm

[@charalamboscharalambous165]

@@nedsteven4622 dungeon master

[@arkinseth144]

@@nedsteven4622 game master and dungeon master is pretty much the same, but idk which word they used in the episode to be fair

[@helmutstein1178]

Best episode by far

[@magnusthered2187]

Fuck you. The group was SHIT!!!

[@sarahpearson1504]

To be fair his players were a bunch of murder hobos

[@matthewblaylock5053]

Nobody: Tzeentch: Boop Magnus: I have nipples on my head!

[@javierruizferrandis9076]

We played

[@TheWarmachine375]

Horn nipples lol

[@Legitpenguins99]

King of nipples

[@joekost1038]

XD

[@Ashley-the-fox]

@@Legitpenguins99 ow it wasn't my choice

[@IronFreakV]

One of the things that I love about the lore and writing concerning the Primarchs and Big Daddy E during the Great Crusade and the Heresy was that despite the fact that they were pretty much the absolute apex of humanity - in terms of intellect, ambition and raw power - they were still very flawed. Most of the events that turned the galaxy to what it is today can be traced to them simply making mistakes or being arrogant in their superiority. Even if they were the most perfect humans to ever exist, they were still human.

[@SpaghettiToaster]

Actually they were just rock-bottom retarded (except maybe for Gman).

[@pedrovilasgomes9144]

Me too, I was reading "False Gods" the other day and you can see in the Magnus part that the only reason he decided to use the warp to deliver the message to Big E was because of his arrogance

[@moonman1602]

This applies for DAoT humans too

[@IsmaelSantos-iy4xi]

"Pride cometh before the fall"

[@tiggytheimpaler5483]

I do like how 99% of the problems in the war hammer universe could be solved if the man that can litteraly speak directly into the minds of probably every sentient being in the galaxy, was better at communication. Hey Magnus, since your probably the only one other than myself capable of doing this, dont break the physicwall, it keeps demons out which are way worse than the traitors. Hey Leeman, I need magnus to sit on mynspexial chair while I do some dad shit, make sure he knows this Litteraly, not that hard

[@AltoStratusX1]

"Also I'm not a God. Don't worship me or use psychic powers." Proceeds to dress and act like a God while flexing his incredible psychic might.

[@robertnelson9599]

@@AltoStratusX1 Big E deserved better writing than what he got.

[@Ourico.Pistola]

Well, to be fair, if at least 1% of the population in WH40k universe had a functional brain, most os the problems would be easily solved.

[@sengju4468]

This entire story is full of hypocrisy. I'm surprised humanity hasn't been wiped out yet.

[@nickxx9729]

@@sengju4468 me after getting a history major

[@vinnylatoria4478]

Magnus is the best primarch, he simply wanted to warn the Emperor regardless of the Emperor's warning.

[@TheWarmachine375]

Too bad Tzeentch fucked him over

[@vinnylatoria4478]

@@TheWarmachine375 Absolutely. I wonder what would've happened if Tzeentch hadn't showed up.

[@christiandauz3742]

Magnus made his first deal with Tzeentch during the Great Crusade. Tzeentch owns his soul The Chaos Gods had many backup plans to ensure the Webway Project fails and the Emperor put into a wheelchair

[@Pandemix2137]

@@TheWarmachine375 Tzeentch fucked him over, because Emperor fucked first pissing on Magnus. To the end Magnus was best Primarch. Thousand Sons were best Great Crusade legion, just like Blood Ravens are best loyalist chapter now.

[@kavky]

@@Pandemix2137 u trolling right?

[@magnusthered6716]

If father had told me about chaos, instead of telling me the “you are messing with things beyond your comprehension” cliche I might have stayed loyal.

[@bubbajoe117]

I mean hey, at least you're arguably the least evil of the fallen primarchs, that counts for something, even in the relative moral bleakness of the 40K universe

[@JIMT412]

Magnus, he told you that, your father in Prospero told you that, Lorgar was dealing about it, almost everyone in Prospero told you that, and despite all of it, you ignored it, so at this point, in the game, you have no right to complain. You were called and you ignore it. Deal with it. Also Leman Russ is the best you stupid nerd "runs like hell"

[@datsimplenope]

@Magnus The Red which one of you is the main Magnus?

[@АндрейПашук-ь1ф]

Often parental mistake.

[@IsmaelSantos-iy4xi]

You could also have contacted Valdor and Russ and go "Guys, I made a big mistake, we must hurry back to Terra to help father against a horde of warp monsters I unleashed!"

[@LuciaFinstra]

Ahriman has been forced to fail by Tzeentch pretty much every time. Spoilers ahead! When casting the first Rubric, Tzeentch had sabotaged the Book of Magnus - the grimoire that Ahriman used to formulate the spell. When casting the second Rubric, he was simultaneously being severely fucked over by a shard of Magnus, the inquisition, the Changeling, and a legion of sorcerers led by a former ally of his. Despite all that the second Rubric succeeded in completely restoring one Rubric marine - Helio Isidorus (and that was way before Yvraine got to prominence).

[@00784865]

Lets be reall here, Ahriman has probably one of, if not the, coolest helmets in 40k.

[@imperialfist2304]

I agree in this sentiment. Once I proposed we make some of our helmets like that to the Adeptus Mechanicus. I had to clean the whole Phalanx, by myself, with a mouth cleanser.

[@KhanKeal]

Lorgar's chaos helm, as worn by Eliphas the Inheritor in DOW: Dark Crusade, is a solid contender for that title as well I'd say.

[@00784865]

@@KhanKeal i had to google that and i fully agree, that thing looks dope as fuck.

[@00784865]

@Keebs yes, what happened to them was truly tragic and i like how he wants to do anything he can to save his bros.

[@00784865]

@lioheart2356 agreed, its sad their primarch was an arrogant moron, but the legion itself isnt all bad and they dont give a fuck about him.

[@richardcheng7622]

Maggy losing an eye in the warp is a reference to Odin losing an eye to drink from Mimir’s well in order to gain knowledge and power. Well that went REALLY well for both characters in the end.

[@IsmaelSantos-iy4xi]

Well, it did for Odin.

[@tienkieu4806]

Magnus in 40k: a tragedy Magnus in TTS: a comedy

[@nowhere474]

MAGNUS the NERD. IS STILL MY HERO!!

[@magnusthered3692]

FURK YOU

[@sebastiaogomes9993]

my favourite primarch and legion by far

[@magnusthered2187]

Magnus The red FUCK! MULTIVERSE IS REAL! FUCK! FUCK!

[@legiohysterius4624]

Magnus will be redeemed

[@lemonshampoo3174]

Magnus did nothing wrong

[@commissarbearz]

"I PUNCHED OUT ONE OF HIS HEARTS! WHY DOES NOBODY REMEMBER THAT?!"

[@cmelton6796]

Shoulda aimed for the head

[@brandonforrester9729]

Can we get imperial guard explained by an Australian

[@skepticalmagos_101]

Oh Yess!!

[@brandonforrester9729]

I want him to actually talk about moments where the guard kick ass and he needs to talk about the tanith

[@imperialfist2304]

The Guard isn’t just people getting killed all the time, most of the time they kill the enemy back! Except if you’re a Krieger then you’re doing both.

[@TheSnores]

Yeah there's porbably enough in the Guard for 2-3 videos with all the Death World armies, the Tanith, Yarrick, maybe even Ciaphas Cain. Would love to see a Mechanicus/Titan Legions vid too.

[@imperialfist2304]

Paul Neely Maybe even CREEEEEED! The one with an E though.

[@shootinbruin3614]

I'm about 2/3rds of the way through Text-to-Speech, and I find Magnus one of the more sympathetic characters (Kitten's still #1 though)

[@henrypaleveda7760]

he's more sympathetic Because brother AB. is trying to give him character and actual development across the story, which is more than what games workshop has done.

[@shootinbruin3614]

@@henrypaleveda7760 There is tons that the community has done more than GW; I just hope with the absorption of Astartes, SODAZ, etc., into the company we'll finally get good canon content

[@henrypaleveda7760]

@@shootinbruin3614 you and me both

[@Son.D.Lollipop]

I always thought I was sympathetic until I watched tts. Big E in that and majorkill here really puts into perspective how much he actually does fuck up

[@StewartMillarTheManCave]

@@shootinbruin3614 here’s hoping! Hoping for some Magnus rewrites myself, idk! There’s many pieces there for a good old tragedy, they’re just assembled kind of weirdly. The whole thirst for knowledge and arrogance leading to the downfall of a good lad, all that craic. Doesn’t really hit home properly with the combination of ‘The Emperor chose to make him the psycher Primarch and sit on the Golden Throne’ and ‘not teach him about the warp bar telling him not to do the things he was created for’. It would both fit the ‘arrogance was his downfall’ arc, be more tragic and also not make Big E seem like an idiot to have Magnus’ fall come after the Emperor properly takes him under his wing and teach him the ways, outline his vision for Magnus’ future etc. Then have the Red guy get cocky and do something dumb because he thinks he knows better than the Emperor. I dunno, I do like Magnus so I’m a little biased but the whole saga also makes Big E look like an idiot, plus instead of Magnus’ hubris being his downfall, it’s partly ‘Magnus doesn’t know shit because nobody told him’ half the time. The Emperor’s bad relationship with many of the Primarchs in other cases I don’t find as jarring because it’s his distance and coldness, which make absolute sense being an almost god. With Magnus it’s just baffling really.

[@galend2158]

The Emperor : My next son will be my eqaul in that of mind and psychic power. Scientists : Yes my lord, but what color should he be? The Emperor: He shall be as that of a star in the void and the immaterial, a rival to no other. Scientist: OK? Not a lot to go on there. I heard a son, who's a sun, so make him red? The Emperor : What no you idiot, I mean he'll be powerful in the force, not red? Scientist: have you ever considered just speaking gothic for once, instead of over the top rambling.

[@blademaker9843]

Emperor: *Dusts the scientist* “Yeah well you’re dead so… suck it!” Yes I can see big E being that petulant.

[@missZoey5387]

*reads that in his TTS voice*

[@schizosamurai8840]

I know that tts is all wacky and funny, but sometimes its low-key hard for me not to think of it as canon

[@angelusumbra5741]

Major Kill You are the first person I've heard that doesn't see tragedy in the falls of Angron, Magnus the Red, and Mortarion, and does see tragedy in the fall of Fulgrim. While I don't fully agree with your reasons why, you make some excellent points, even when they're full of humor and edgelordery... That's a word now. Fight me. Or just abuse Timmy some more, as that is a win win for us both... I'm glad to have come across your creative, thorough, and quite humorous videos. Stay awesome, Aussie cuz.

[@SimplyAdriel]

So the God Emperor created 20 Demigod babies" *Omegon:* _"Am I a joke to you?"_

[@voidstrider801]

Omegon who may or may not be alive still, who possibly founded multiple chapters bearing his sigil, the symbol of Omega. All of which are supposedly Ultra-Marine successor chapters, and Gulliman claims to have killed Omegon, very suspicious. Omegon is likely hiding in plain sight as always, waiting patiently for the moment he is needed by the loyalists the most to reveal himself once more.

[@imperialfist2304]

Who’s Omegon?

[@luizhenriquealves9755]

Omegon was an acident child, he doesn't count

[@TheWarmachine375]

Alpharius and Omegon are twins in one pod

[@Maxibon2007]

Vince Lumontad like in the film “Twins” with more GrimDark(TM)

[@willhiggins9563]

I think the reason behind the ‘Magnus did nothing wrong’ meme is that if you genuinely consider his POV and motives, you start to understand. His psychic powers set him part on his home planet and among his brothers. Clearly the Emperor wanted him to be that strongest psycer for a reason. And most would argument that the best defense against things like the terrors of the Warp, or Chose would be knowledge. Because the Emperor kept Chose a secret from his sons, of course Magnus would not see the logic of not exploring the Warp. He also only ever made his bargains with Tzeentch in first place to stop his sons from becoming monsters, and then to warn the Emperor about Horus. Even fully joining Tzeentch was just to save his Legion and home. His biggest weakness definitely seemed to be over estimating his own knowledge. Also, I couldn't help but notice a lot of similarities between him and the Emperor, mainly that all their failures stem from their good intentions. And that both of them had their souls shattered into shards. I also have a theory. The Emperor created Magnus to be his ultimate weapon against Tzeentch. I base if off the fact that Tzeentch seemed to need Magnus to break through the psychic barrier put up by the Emperor. That implies Magnus has potential for powers Tzeentch didn't. And it would be well with in character for a Chose god, especially Tzeentch, to turn a weapon against them into their puppet.

[@FirstLast-cg2nk]

To me, Magnus is one of the most tragic of the traitor primarchs, because honestly, literally until the moment he became a demon prince, he was doing everything he thought was right for the Imperium and his father. It says something about the Emperor that Magnus broke his father's command to warn that Horus had been turned by Chaos and started a rebellion, and the Big E's immediate reaction was to assume that Magnus was a traitor instead, and send Lehman Russ, his executioner, after him.

[@Hammer_Of_Olympia]

The Thousand Suns have the coolest looking marines along side the Dark Angels hands down.

[@Darthpsychonis]

Tzeentch taking Magnus' eye was also "part of the plan" as later in the fight with Russ he losses his other eye, which opened him up to Leman grabbing him and snapping his spine.

[@redcairn4925]

Not an active primarch? Magnus has been one of the most active ones actually. I mean sure, his campains on the fenris system have been many, but if i remember correctly, He was able to teleport the planet of the sorcerers into realspace because he conquered so much terretory for titsnitch on other fronts.

[@silversurfer8818]

I absolutely reject the ending of the thousand sons - Before Magnus does the Obi-wan, he utters the words "This is my last gift to you" and gifts Ahriman with the book of Magnus, and spirited them away to the planet of sorceress to join chaos. Why would he do that, at this point he wasn't a Daemon Prince, why would he condemn his sons to the servitude of Tzeentch?

[@velphidrow]

The other option was all of them being killed

[@powerhouse6165]

I want a much wiser Leman Russ to emerge from the warp and come into contact with Magnus. He walks toward Magnus and says "I'm sorry brother, we were wrong, forgive me. Humanity needs us more now than ever. . . Let us return as comrades"

[@cmelton6796]

@@OrnstoneFilm WIZARD FUCKING FURRIES NOOOO

[@theguardsman5358]

@@cmelton6796 Magic space wolves that listen to powerwolf and rhapsody

[@AustralianBlueMage]

@@theguardsman5358 Leman would be more Amon Amarth, surely?

[@Son.D.Lollipop]

Nice idea in thought but giving manguses shattered state and his soul getting perpetually tentacle fucked I’m not sure it would work.

[@samlevy9897]

@@Son.D.Lollipop Maybe in TTS, though

[@JoeSmith-sl9bq]

I like the whole mystic vibe with them and really want to see them shine, no like tzeenchian victories where they get their ass whooped but then twirl their moustache and say “hurhur this was all part of my plan!” But just straight up victory. I wonder how Thousand Sons and Word Bearers interact

[@thepoliticalgunnut8018]

"Angrily reading books" probably the one phrase that sums up Magnus in whole.

[@lukeburky8344]

"This was known as the Council of Nikea" *shows the Triumph at Ullanor*

[@MyViolador]

You slap his knightly ASS - Magnus 2019

[@kiesarisunny13]

Everyone: Magnus the Red Me: Tomato Man

[@TodayInTheNBA27]

Magnus had it pretty hard when he was younger. They lived in little villages and every time they went outside those villages they got killed by some scary psychic bat things. He went out for a walk and smashed some mosaic tile thing and boom he got his powers. He got the other sorcerers to look at them and boom they got better powers. Then they killed all the bat things and had it real easy after that.

[@rabbiama2940]

Wanna know What burns Brighter than the Thousands Suns Prospero

[@christianreyes5912]

Yeah, boi!

[@skepticalmagos_101]

Oooohhh Burn!! XD

[@imperialfist2304]

Skeptical Guardsman Just like Prospero

[@virasksmile.always2706]

Fuck you That was good though

[@legiohysterius4624]

You know what burns better than prospero Magnus's hatred for the furry legion

[@Yoshwayy]

Magnus is a PRIME example of “right intention, wrong move”

[@KrimsonKiwi]

As a long time lover of all things 40k, I have only just discovered your channel. Forgive me! Your approach to the lore is the best I have come across, by far (and makes me proud to be Aussie). You have a new fan.

[@johnbones3455]

Does anyone else find it odd the Egypt style marines aren’t led by the primarch named after an Egyptian god or is it just me?

[@joshmcbride9590]

"Which lets face it that's your life, you watch warhammer videos in your free time "...damn that's hard hitting...and true

[@googsfishing5836]

Lol was legit just looking for any mk videos I hadn't watched yet

[@lazaruslong697]

Did you watch his hangover though?

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

Magnus did nothing wrong I'm the Emperor so I know

[@theblacktemplar7401]

Dad...im so sorry

[@betchersgland7236]

That's one way to say he never did anything right I guess.

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

@@theblacktemplar7401 It's okay my boi come home now. I'll tell the Custodes to make a welcome party

[@indrickboreale7381]

Scones are sandwiches

[@LuciaFinstra]

Correct! :D

[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

Magnus has attacked the Wolves two times, and although loosing, he has achieved many minor goals in the Fuck-the-Wolves plan. And HE HAS RETAKEN PROSPERO! He has a fucking Empire in real space again. How did you miss that!

[@oscarwind4266]

I know right? And the only thing he did wrong was shifting his intentions mid battle and you know, not magicing Russ's face off from a safe distance of "18

[@lad3853]

1:02 hearing that post nut hit hard, rethinking it all rn

[@noamtepper456]

Magnus the red hot disappointment.

[@imperialfist2304]

The reason he’s red is because he’s still recovering from how smoked he got during the Burning of Prospero

[@hayyu9202]

Skarsnik in 40k (as alien, as a prophet of mork and WHF skarsnik). Would he survive? What would he do? Would his presence affect the setting depending on when he arrives (pre heresy, post heresy, post resurrected guilliman)? Skaven in 40k (as alien, as a abhuman and AoS skaven). Would they survive? What would they do? Would their presence affect the setting depending on when they arrive (pre heresy, post heresy, post resurrected guilliman)? Or horned rat (WHF god version) against each primarch. Who can he beat? Who does he lose against? How will the fight go down? Or sigmar in 40k (as human, as a god and AoS sigmar). Would he survive? What would he do? Would his presence affect the setting depending on when he arrives(pre heresy, post heresy, post resurrected guilliman)? Or sigmar (WHF god version) against each primarch. Who can he beat? Who does he lose against? How will the fight go down?

[@olympusgolemoflight7198]

He actually covered the SIgmar portion of this question in a previous video.

[@patrickmcginty3234]

Skarsnik would probably not be taken seriously in 40k because all of his kind would be pathetic snotlings, rather than the cunning goblins that he commands in the Fantasy setting. The skaven on the other hand can definitely survive the 40k universe. They would be able to sneak onto ships to get to different planets and infest the underhives of hive cities. Hell, they might even come up with their own version of the webway to try and connect their under empire.

[@LordXarius]

Patrick McGinty Skaven and Lizardmen would definitely survive 40k especially if we’re talking about AOS Skaven who are allies with chaos that could develop a massive civilization in the former mankind section of the webway and make attempts at invading the material world plus the Horned Rat would have a lot of influence in 40k considering his portfolio of decay, ruin, destruction, and betrayal plus Skaven already have soldier stronger than Astartes called Stormfiends which Majorkill once said are stronger than Ultramarine Astartes which is incredible compared to normal humans but average when compared to Astartes. Lizardmen already have advanced tech along with the strongest character in the entire Warhammer multiverse Lord Kroak.

[@shahbaksh2915]

Magnus did not ignore Leman's parley request. Horus had planted a spy inside the Space Wolves on Fenris just about the time when Horus went bald heretic mode. The wolves of Fenris knew immediately that the person who had landed on their planet was a spy but they thought he was sent by Magnus and there was no reason to suspect Horus of this bullshittery. At the council of Nikea, Horus (or some bullshit chaos daemon) impersonated Amon Tauromachian, captain of the thousand sons and attacked the spy infront of a couple of space wolves and a custodes and said that his mission had failed since he couldnt gather any intelligence and Magnus was on trial at Nikea. When the whole warp gate shit happened, and emperor had it with Magnus's psychic shenanigans, he sent Leman Russ to bring him to Terra for judgement and Leman on the way to Prospero kept talking to the spy, hoping that Magnus would be listening, and saying please surrender and come peacefully. Obviously, it was Horus on the other end, not Magnus. And that's how tzeentch had played a check mate as far as getting Magnus out of the imperium was concerned.

[@IsmaelSantos-iy4xi]

I like that part as it shows how sharp Russ could be, with the whole "iterrogate a dude while surrou ded by sisters of silence"

[@yoerislegers8120]

Train of thoughts... What if Leman isn't looking for the tree of life but the shards of Magnus. Realising he was wrong and wanting tot reverse his Dolly of killing Magnus. When he collects them all Magnus can ben restored and sit on the golden throne. Freeing the emperor... Also another thought...if malcador is a perpetual, shouldn't he respawn at some Point? Of maybe he already has and is looking for lost primarchs? Op moment if he also shows up with a corax in wake

[@IsmaelSantos-iy4xi]

Perpetuals can respawn because their souls simply manifests a new body. Malcador had most of his soul drained by the golden throne and the rest was burned to give enough time for The Emperor to give his final orders before the golden throne claimed him.

[@andrewmartin9948]

Decided to take the plunge to start the hobby. Pretty experienced painter on scale models but have made the thousand sons my first army. Nice looks and lore. Seems like a fun start. This video might be the best description of their story I've seen. (Also got a necrons box just cause even before the ninth edition stuff was announced cause the green rods. Seems like an even better decision now lol)

[@osmosisjones2822]

I've already rewatched Alfa's content 20 times or so now 😅

[@R3GARnator]

This makes me realize how much the chaos gods were inspired by the Cthulu mythos.

[@bananajoe1882]

I learned about tzeentch from this video and was talking about him to my veteran warhammer friend who informed me after much laughing that it was not pronounced “titsnitch”

[@TheBlackBladder]

@MajorKill For the rubricare spell funny thing in the book Shards of Magnus the ritual was ok. But during a space travel Lucius the eternal began a fight on the deck and while Arumans back was turned away the other thousand son marine made a quick change in the book of Magnus that F-ed the ritual up when cast. He was instructed my demon ofc to do this as a price for showing him how to transfer the flesh change on to others like a weird spa cleansing.

[@flameknightplayz2939]

Magnus should focus on aoe spells instead of obviously extremely powerful single shot abilities that gets cancelled by sisters of silence lmao, like dude alter the surroundings and stop getting fcked. Team magnus all the way tho ;).

[@UncleMikeDrop]

He really should have sent Roboute' Guilliman, Lion El Johnson, or Sanguinius to apprehend Magnus.

[@velphidrow]

Leman's job was to hunt space marines and primarchs

[@UncleMikeDrop]

@@velphidrow True, but his judgement was compromised regarding Magnus. Leeman literally swore a blood oath to kill him. The Emperor needed Magnus alive so de-escalation should have been the priority. Had it been ANY OTHER PRIMARCH than Magnus, I would agree 100% that Leeman is the right man for the job. Hell Leeman should have been sent to sensors Lorgar. He would not have tried that cheap shot on the Wolf King like he did with Guilliman I promise you that.

[@陳怡秀-r7y]

@@UncleMikeDrop legit Horus would’ve lost if Magus was sitting on the golden throne and blocking the web way breach. But no, daddy had to send the 1 bloke that would fuck their chances of getting Magus to fix his mistake lmao

[@jacobweatherford4696]

Thousand sons despite their bad luck are still a favorite chapter of mine if the emperor was smarter and had say sent sanquinous to get Magnus he would probably never have turned to chaos and the emperor would have stopped horus and saved the imperium.

[@oscarwind4266]

Exactly!

[@jacobweatherford4696]

@@oscarwind4266 also the thousand sons would probably have replaced or been involved in the founding of the gray knights.

[@IsmaelSantos-iy4xi]

@@jacobweatherford4696 in the Dornian Heresy they sort of fill the same role as the gray knights by vortue of all thousand sons being Librarians. The way they got rid of the flesh change was by binding their souls tp The Emperor like astropaths do, which renders them all blind as their eyes are removed. They see using their warp powers and commuicate telepathically so they fight in complete silence.

[@UllyrWuldan]

Love the video, BUT... You missed some nuance in the story of Prospero Burns. Russ thought that Magnus was the one listening to the mind of the main character, and it turned out to actually be Horus. Horus ordered Russ to kill Magnus but Russ was willing to ignore the order and was greatly disturbed at having to kill Magnus. I have a huge hard on for K Sons and read everything I can find on them. So I had to throw in my own Timmy Moment lmao

[@oditeomnes]

When Perturabo can punch a gunship carrying an emissary of Nurgle and show the chaos god a middle finger, then any Primarch could do it. (Of course I can't fathom how Pertie became a daemon prince at all)

[@stidy8315]

So the entire Grey Knights faction is made from a shard of Magnus?. That’s crazy.

[@godofemergencyfood5432]

“I PUNCHED ONE OF HIS HEARTS OUT: WHY DOES NO ONE REMEMBER THAT?” -Magnus The Red

[@FoxHound-ut1hu]

Russ actually didn't have a problem with psykers themselves, it was Magnus never using any restraint when delving into the warp.

[@akirakramer8937]

Can you cover the alpha legion next? They are simultaneously nerdy and not nerdy.

[@tarraux5971]

First he calls the smurf meme unfunny now "Magnus did Nothing Wrong" is terrible? Simply outrageous

[@Kalron9]

"Mortarion becomes a smelly moth" made me laugh so hard

[@orionphalynx6192]

The Thousand Sons are cool in theory, but I guess the writers realised how OP a Legion of S-tier psyker space marines would be, so they just stacked Magnus and his bois with as much negative plot armor as possible.

[@jayburn00]

I think Magnus might subconsciously want to lose, perhaps out of guilt.

[@makeshift307]

Magnus is my favorite character in tts. And while i prefer mortarion, i love his model!

[@Self-replicating_whatnot]

I like the idea of leagion comprised of superhuman warriors armed and armored up the wazoo deciding that comically oversized guns are cool and all, but you know what'd be really neat to have acess to? MIND BULLETS.

[@Rorschached]

You forgot to mention the extra kick in the nuts when Yvraine heals the Rubric Marines and Ahriman sees it, only to watch them fall off a cliff right afterwards when the Yncarne takes a deep breath and sucks them over the edge. GW sure does love kicking the Thousand Sons in the balls over and over.

[@Son.D.Lollipop]

After watching TTs Manaus is by far my favorite primary. Also just throwing this out there but he should in all honesty he the most power primarc

[@PrancingGoldfish]

" And then the Emperor called a council of all the most important people in the Imperium, as well as the Primarchs." Big oof

[@inquisitorbenediktanders3142]

One thing to note about magnus: the eye(s) location(s) constantly changes every time you look away. When you first see him he probably has one eye on left/right and when you look away and back he has one big eye in the middle.

[@egillskallagrimson5879]

13:45 how this moment makes the thousand sons and Magnus traitors and not the furry fuckers and the dude from Tankard? I don't get it Leman trying to kill Magnus instead to fetch him to Big E sounds like treason to me.

[@hashimbokhamseen7877]

I'm surprised how you're not cancelled yet and I love it

[@pedromoura1446]

i was low key hoping to hear that on the side of psykers was alpharius and on the opposing side was alpharius

[@luizhenriquealves9755]

Magnus is the most Jojo of the primarchs! Change my mind!

[@henrypaleveda7760]

in terms of looking like a stand, or the out of whack proportions (nether of these are slights, just parameters)

[@daddymando7652]

This is heresy

[@the-engneer]

New to 40k Lore after playing The Horus Heresy Legion's for over a year

[@jinsakai1254]

Imagine Magnus finding the black library and he becomes the strongest character in 40k

[@traitorouskin7492]

Having the subtitles on makes it even funner. Cheers major

[@bokute2020]

Magnus = Maximum nerd, it is right in his name 😂. I can already imagine hilarious meeting of Magnus and Leeman with Big E.

[@nukethenatelore]

u forgot the bit where emps offered him a new legion but he had to kill all his sons

[@boredcryptek5513]

You forgot that the Thousand Sons also are getting clapped by one of the Necron dynasties. Probably because the necrons don't like someone else cramping on their space Egyptian theme.

[@christiandauz3742]

Thousand Sons are backed to Legion numbers. They have Billions of Traitor Guardsmen, Cultists and Rogue Psykers under their command Ahriman can teleport an entire Necron Army to Tzeentch's domain in the Warp

[@ordomachinum4016]

I like to think magnus is actually a ginger that got scolded by a sun he was passing by in the warp

[@hoanguyenthai9170]

Huh, i remember from somewhere that Magnus didn't know about Russ's parlay and the one Russ talked to was in fact a Changeling. Or am i wrong?

[@itboi9137]

Magnus got done dirty

[@EloquentTroll]

I wouldn't sully myself by playing traitors or Xenos, but if I did it would be with Thousand Sons. I don't play much 40k at all these days, but I really like their mechanics and lore

[@michaelsantamaria3053]

There's is a very diffrent difference between the sorcery and psyker power. Psyker powers come from the warp directly and only be done by psykers. sorcery however is warp magic that come indirectly from the warp like from a tome or a demon and anyone (except blanks) can do sorcery.

[@TheRhandolph]

Or the Emperor could have just TOLD his sons what he was doing.. then NO Horace heresy.

[@eyez274]

Actualy the name came from the fact that the thousand sons were made to stay at a thousand marines maximum from the geko. And ... only a half of them were still in service when Magnus meet the Big E in flesh.

[@f.e.areproduce5298]

A question i have, what if Magnus considering that there was like arround a thousand marines was sent as a supporting legion in especially dificult situations? I mean if Lorgar was supposed to be weakest of Primarchs in terms of combat his weakness could be counteracted by Magnus and Thousand Sons being the type of "If they don't comply have Magnus back you up since your slow compliance rate".

[@IsmaelSantos-iy4xi]

Lorgar didnt have high combat stats because he had top tier charisma, surpassed only by Horus, but while Horus was able to convince importa t individuals Lorgar was better at converting crows. His role was to spread the Imperial Truth, combat was a secondary role. Most of the primarchs follow that pattern of Role First, Combat Second (Horus a leader, Guilliman an administrator, Konrad a judge, etc) Magnus role was likely to sit on the Golden Throne and his thousand sons to care and maintain the human webway.

[@atillanandorfuri3343]

Yeah sending the imperial wolf-executioner to retrive a primarch that just fucked up big time was a great idea E-man

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

"Everything is Magnus's fault". - Big E.

[@Twist-The-Friendly-Hunter]

As a non fan from a outside perspective... At some point the emperor has to wake up, and what I would personally love to see is him summoning Magnus and forgiving him for how hs acted after he broke the psychic barriers and when on the throne, understood that he actually didn't do anything wrong and russ was to blame. Magnus would have to truly prove he is worthy of forgiveness and would have to sit on the throne forever. Then when russ pops back up, he'd be confused why Magnus is on the throne and confused why the emperor is awake AND protecting him. He would obviously be really suspicious and ready to fight when another primark's walks in who he is close with and shuts him up.

[@echo_ironside8006]

19:36 didnt even name Rylanor, the ancient of rites, big sad

[@simonpark843]

"Balls to the wall with psychic powers" is a good way of describing what Magnus did.