Magnuson's New TVS2650 Supercharger vs ALL!

[@myoneblackfriend3151]

This video has more edits than the first “Transformers” movie.

[@completestreetperformance]

Indeed, I was thinking about redoing it. I don't want to waste people's time by releasing something I already did, but I don't like how it ended up. Thoughts on a "directors cut"?

[@RadDadisRad]

Lmfao

[@rooster_saucer]

15 seconds in, read this comment and saw the first edit... then proceeded to get drown by them. lmao.

[@jsly5473]

Man, you ain't kidding. More jumps than the Jerky Boys.

[@1gbayfisher]

Stopped watching after the first 10 cuts...made my brain hurt. Please stop doing that!

[@eddied.2100]

CORRECTION: The Edelbrock 2650 has one massive 3 core intercooler which spans the entire blower manifold top, not 3 individual intercooler bricks.

[@StormCentre88]

Actual comparison starts @ 4:42 minutes.

[@jacobveasey9164]

Bro we need dudes like you in every comment section 😂

[@darrylsmijan9123]

I love my tvs1900 with 12lbs of boost on my tbss , 140000 km and no issues at all !

[@alpha2047]

If only Magnuson remembered the wet sump guys for the LT1. Leaning towards Edelbrock now

[@completestreetperformance]

There are ways to use the 2650 on a wet sump car. Stay tuned to the channel for this one

[@alpha2047]

@@completestreetperformance There are ways to do it for sure, but unless it comes from the manufacturer I'd be more hesitant to start modifying their design unless they openly support it and it retains their offered warranty. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. If you need a test Vette I've got a few more snow free weeks to drive down from Canada ;)

[@todd5082]

I have the new Gen 5 Whipple and it’s a beast. Not only that but it DOES have port injection. The Whipple doesn’t use multiple “bricks” but rather one massive radiator under the SC lid. No cutting of the valve covers and lower heat was important to me. If U need more cooling (via competition) then u can opt for an even bigger heat exchanger.

[@expectnolove9978]

You prefer the magnuson over the Whipple? I have a hellcat redeye and was looking to upgrade the blower....trying to do my homework

[@todd5082]

@@expectnolove9978 the Whipple is very nice, top quality. One thing I would do regardless of which SC u get is to use the blower thermal spacers. Not cheap ($275). I didn’t add them and now it’s a huge pain to pull the blower off.

[@todd5082]

@@expectnolove9978 $100 on the low end for thermal spacer gaskets.

[@JohnnyAnderson1]

dyno them all on the same car with the same pulley....

[@jamieshelker2178]

That's a great idea

[@Zekenificent]

Thank you for making this video, this is the exact comparison I wanted to see of these blowers.

[@completestreetperformance]

Heard you guys loud and clear about the choppy editing style. I appreciate the feedback. I'm going to do my best to keep it to a minimum in the future. It's definitely a balance between flow and chop that I'm working to master lol.

[@kirikos65]

Terrible video I have to say it could have been a lot better but you are very jerky very annoying.

[@ralphcruz8484]

Can you still do the inner chiller on the Magnuson 2650 and can you do port methanol injection on the Magnuson Supercharger

[@Coyote9smilespergallon]

Why no KenneBell’s ? I love my Kennebell on 10GT500 3.6KB 840whp 18psi sounds Fn awesome at idle and in pulls!

[@whatisthisevenfor27]

What about kennebell superchargers? I thought they were the best since a lot of people use them on mustangs.

[@spookyfizz]

who does your editing? Good editing btw. I noticed. Very clean, nicely done. Engaging. most people don't understand why they continue to watch. It's the editing. If you are an editor or need to take your video game to the next level, this is a text book example of excellent editing. Also, I'm a truck driver so I don't know what I'm talking about but it seems clear to me that this is a good example of proper editing technique. The editing is done sentence by sentence. Lots of time and effort.

[@Kuzican01]

Andrew, I like your rundown of the various superchargers. I especially like your previous videos you've discussed on these new LT motors. They definitely have so much potential. Great work as always.

[@wright0369]

Great Job on the comparison bro. This was very thorough and informative.

[@georgem.6136]

Stangkilr ran a 9.52 a few different times at the last Street Car Takeover with his new stock blower ZL1, don’t swap yours out until you take that record, just have them do good track prep at Cecil & fix your cooling issue!

[@cali2468]

Who cares about a stupid record. Swap this blower on and go 8's@160.

[@sthcope4638]

Will there be a numbers comparison video between the Whipple and Magnuson? I interested to see which is a better performer since the Whipple is supposed to be a more efficient rotor pack design.

[@jomigo6934]

This video brought to you buy Max Headroom

[@stevenp3176]

Depending on the unit GM gets their 3rd or 4th gen. Their 5th gen is totally new architecture currently being adapted for Ford products at the moment.

[@jasonalper7898]

Can you list a part number, i thought all map sensors only read pressure.

[@completestreetperformance]

The factory LT4 map sensor is actually a T-MAP. Meaning temperature and map. Hope that helps.

[@jasonalper7898]

@@completestreetperformance Thank you

[@JWP1990]

Good comparison! I wondered why you had 160 degree iat’s with ice cold coolant in the heat exchanger last outing...I pull timing at those temps! Looking forward to the results.

[@JWP1990]

Andrew, any comment?

[@general23cmp]

Will these work on cathedral heads? How does height compare to factory LS car intakes?

[@TheGjergj79]

Does kong port the magnuson 2650?

[@Jesusprayerwarriorbw]

@completestreetperformance why the super choppy editing? Love ya Andrew, it just really messed with me. Great content!

[@radz-cp8lt]

Great video!!! Thank you. Can you show us a comparison of the bricks? That would make it even better, IMO.

[@completestreetperformance]

I'll see what I can do. Maybe for Thursday's video. Although the edlebrock is already on the car so.... Probably not the Edlebrock.

[@patrickmarrow5490]

Check this video from Magnuson about their 2650 supercharger brick. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4OagoFmfbuSga8

[@talalaziz4880]

Ifyouadded f-1A-94 procharger, which one you'll prefer?

[@Sir.VicsMasher]

I always thought Twin Screw blowers were better, but then saw various TVS 2650 make more power and run quicker then the larger 2.8-2.9L KB and Whipple twin screws.

[@jamesavery6671]

Yeah but who ran the comparison test ? If it was magnuson I wouldn't trust that video its gonna be rigged lol. Even if it did make more power Whipple still makes much bigger blowers up to 8 liter and a 2.65 liter is only going to put out so much air no matter how efficient it is. From my understanding maggy is limited to what eaton produces ( OEM stuff) and they modify it with better coolers etc but they are stuck with OEM rotors. Whipple is all in house with way more size choices

[@Sir.VicsMasher]

James Avery This channel among other shops that install and tune Twin Screws and TVS’

[@ahack14]

Why dose the 2650 make more power then the 2.9 twin screw??

[@cali2468]

Because it's more efficient than the 2.9. Twin vortices FTW!

[@ahack14]

I’d like to have a better explanation. In the NHRA the twin screw is banned cause they make more boost and more power.

[@brianwenzel8791]

trust me, it really doesn't make more power, this is a hyped up, blind sided comparison between different manufacturers that accomplish the same result. not one will stand out from another. this is an excellent example of silliness. no real content. my Kenne Bell would easily "blow" by all of these. no contest.a better, more efficient design. got to love forced induction.

[@cali2468]

@@brianwenzel8791 Get out of here silly troll. The TVS 2650 is without a doubt more efficient than a Whipple 2.9. It makes more power. Will push a 3600 pound C7 ZR1 mid 8's @ 160 mph in the 1/4 mile. A Whipple 2.9 won't do that.

[@brianwenzel8791]

@@cali2468Huh, is that so. I did not know that. This information is a real game changer, I'm glad to have learned something new. Finally some honest content on the internet. This is Fantastic! God Bless us all..

[@georgiafan6618]

Is it a 2.65L unit? Send it out and get it ported! Kong performance is awesome for porting. The Whipple is a badass 2.9L. I'd port the Whipple through Kong and add both pulleys - It makes huge power. Your video editing is fine. Good informative video.

[@jeffclayton9968]

Can you put a LT4 blower on a LT1 engine?

[@completestreetperformance]

Yep... And the wife might suddenly have a supercharged convertible lol

[@bryondrill9239]

Why would you need so much intercooling if you run e85?

[@rdgsupafli]

Watching all these KZbin videos I’m not sure which charger to with. I’m a bit torn between pro charger whipple and magnuson being in Northern California it’s a plus if it’s smoggable. Also most shops around NorCal isn’t that reputable for performance stuff. I have a 17 camaro ss. I’m leaning towards a whipple tho because their factory is in Fresno Cali. But would love to hear more feed back on it. With anyone that has personal experience with the whipple

[@RideOrDie717]

That whipple is not a 2.9 it’s a 5th gen 3.0 and there good for 900-1000 plus wheel

[@gregorycarter9352]

In Stewie’s voice:Hwipple Supacharga.

[@beto6.234]

What's the best cam for a LT4 on a 2650 blower

[@godspeedsendit9610]

Will you be porting the magnusun with kong performance?

[@completestreetperformance]

I asked the master and he said there is nothing to be gained from porting the Magnuson.

[@JWP1990]

Damn...classy and props to Greg for that. Kudos to Kong!

[@godspeedsendit9610]

Thanks for the respond means a lot keep up the awesome informative videos !

[@wmartin0814]

Is the Magnuson on the car yet??

[@mexicano7548]

can i put a super charger in a 6 cyl silverado ?

[@ANMIV517]

Is the whipple a gen 4?

[@addicted4life575]

Hahaha I love your editing in this video!

[@gregorycarter9352]

I love Edelbrock,Magnuson,and Whipple.

[@pedenmk]

Blowers blowers. This vid is full of BLOWERS......

[@shimshonbendan8730]

Andrew, what upgrades can be made to the A10? Seems like when you go over 1,000 hp, the transmission doesn't seem up to the task.

[@patrickmarrow5490]

I would like to know about this too? Why do you want to trash the transmission.

[@shimshonbendan8730]

@@patrickmarrow5490 Trash the transmission? What does that mean? I have a friend who has an 1,100 hp build by Vengeance Racing. I believe it was 5th gear in the A10 that went out on him. He is on his second A10.

[@patrickmarrow5490]

@@shimshonbendan8730 I've heard that the transmission in this A10 are good up to 900 lbs of torque. RPM Transmission is the go to shop but they haven't come out with anything yet for this transmission and part like that.

[@neverendingmods]

The ZL1 Auto is not the same as the Camaro SS or the Mustang GT A10 ten speed trans. It's the Mustang GT A10 ten speed trans you've seen videos and online Mustang forums breaking the A10 at 1k HP. I have seen same videos of the turbo Mustang GT s and Pro Charger SC Mustangs with broken A10s. The ZL1 10 speed is significantly stronger than the regular A10 ten speed trans in Camaro SS(2019+) and 2018+ Mustang GT s. The rear differential in the ZL1 will break before the trans does. For some reason GM made all 6th gens with a crap designed rear diff. Can't even swap gears in it. Gotta replace entire housing and gear set in 1 shot as a single unit. No one has figured any other way around their design. Nothing like the 5th gen Camaros rear diff. Not because of the Elsd either. The stock 10 speed ZL1 torque converter could use upgrading above 1k whp but has no where near the overheating and slippage(slide shifting) the the Hellcat ZF HP90 8 speed trans. The 8 speed in 16-18 Camaro SS/Vettes handle up to 1000 CHP max before needing strengthening. The ZL1 10 speed is bomb proof compared to those other transmissions. Manual ZL1s just need a "Monster Clutch kit" . ( Look up these crazy torque holding bastards. I hear great things about drivability and light, for the tq holding capabilities, clutch pedals. The 6spd manual TR6060 trans is well known to take abuse and big power already by all. No need to discuss anything about it aside from the Monster Clutch clutch kits for it.

[@therealspeedracer]

Did you have Mike street speed edit your video

[@scottdeller]

Lmfao!

[@joshuamelilli8056]

Complete Street Performance how much was that magnuson 2650 supercharger and the Texas Speed 416 Stroker engine ?

[@jameswilliams7337]

Andrew will you please see how much rwhp you can get from the sleeved 416 with the Magnuson 2650 on 93 octane pump gas to compare to the Andrew package that made 800 rwhp with Kong ported LT4 blower on your Tree L1 before adding meth or E85 fuel.Thanks

[@Se7enMiIe]

No, do your own experimenting loser. Everybody hates people like you who come and make oddly specific requests for your own reasons.

[@erickling87]

Ordering from magnusen now. This will fit my Fiesta right? Just add a few zip ties?

[@completestreetperformance]

Ask them. Let me know the answer

[@ANMIV517]

You are the best thanks for the great info. I think I’d go with the edelbrock

[@slyr1]

Can you make one of those superchargers fit on the C-5 Corvette

[@kennethraff2002]

I never got to see the differences in power we’re you able to compare all of them?

[@troy8940]

Can you get the Magnuson to fit a c5 with stock hood ?

[@LineMUp321]

So... if I call Texas Speed and ask for the CSP Andrew Package do I get the same deal or within 15%?

[@completestreetperformance]

I'll let you know lol

[@LineMUp321]

@@completestreetperformance engine and maggie, and remember I'm Canadian so I'll need that "nice guy feel bad" discount code xD lol jks Massive congrats though but yea let us know what we get for referral IF anything.

[@jrr1631]

So please if you can, I know you got money or discount to do this but how in the hell would the whipple be less hp build then the others air/fuel my friend so tell me once again which on has the max rpm or the motor to even handle they are all the same new pulley and fuel and tune!!!

[@pheonixfps9248]

Errr MAP sensors measure pressure/vacuum, not temp, it doesn't matter how recessed they are, as long as they're in the same vicinity of pressure/vacuum as to what's going into the cylinder. That's the job of the IAT...

[@midwestexoticgenetics233]

I need a Whipple for a 6.2 ls3

[@qualitysuperchargers]

Why do you call it a Edelbrock blower, Edelbrock doesn't put there name any where on the blower. They don't list it on there website. It is marketed and sold only by Kong. Do you have any pictures of the inlet? It looks like its not CNC ported.

[@completestreetperformance]

Edelbrock does make the blower. When Kong ports it he removes their logo and puts his on

[@qualitysuperchargers]

@@completestreetperformance I didn't say the blower didn't come from Edelbrock, but they don't sell it so its not an Edelbock. Have any pictures of the blower where you can see any CNC porting?

[@completestreetperformance]

You are still mistaken: www.edelbrock.com/edelbrock-pro-tuner-supercharger-w-o-tuner-155920-for-2017-20-lt4-6-2l-v8-155920.html Kong CNC ports them and then adds his logo. I do not have pictures of the inlet as he asked me not to post them.

[@qualitysuperchargers]

@@completestreetperformance That edelbrock link is for a LT4 blower replacement, 2016 -2020 model years. Kong sells a LSA & LS9 TVS2650 blower replacement, 2009 -2014 Its would be great if the Kong blower is CNC ported but I don't see any claims of CNC porting. It is a cast piece. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIHSiHlnjLqhgqc&t=293

[@ParissaKhoury]

What's Port Injection and why does It matter?

[@PressurePlayerStudio]

more fuel means more go fast!

[@ParissaKhoury]

@@PressurePlayerStudio I don't know much about engine mechanics but, I thought that was the job of the fuel pump and a better high flow fuel pump meant more power?

[@PressurePlayerStudio]

@@ParissaKhoury Port injection sprays fuel into the intake ports, where it mixes with the incoming air.

[@ParissaKhoury]

@@PressurePlayerStudio thanks for explaining

[@jonthoma6439]

Cool video, like the compairison

[@markjmaxwell9819]

Hey dude The heartbeat blower has had great results in Australia. Love my crane cams. 😈😈😈😈

[@Crazy_dg30]

Crane Cammed 2014 Zl1 here!!!

[@jeffersonvieira449]

I need for my Zl1 1le 2650 😮

[@ziggyj3009]

I don’t even know if that’s choppy editing... I just think his add is too much to edit over!

[@MalcolmRowley]

I have a bunch of stuff and none of it is installed.

[@7071t6]

Mate you have no idea when it comes to cooling, its regulated by the Radiators coolant and thermostat setting ie: 170 or 180 or 190 degrees F etc etc, the colder you go the more cooler the temps are or consistant air temp is going into the engine, but put a intercooler on it and you have around 2 degrees C air temps going in and especially if you live in a hot climate all year round, then even if its 100 Degrees F outside temps you still have only 2 to 4 degrees C air temps going into the engine, also there's a switch to not use the air conditioning Interchiller, so that if winter comes you switch it off and it runs on just the outside air ?

[@completestreetperformance]

I don't think you understand what we are talking about.

[@slyr1]

what supercharger should i go with on a C5

[@MikoMuru]

So this is why my 2019 Magnusson supercharger is not out for my tundra. They were designing this beast.

[@7071t6]

Like to know if its possible to put this new mageson 2630 lt on a stock LS3 or L98 or L77 engine ? Also can you run Interchillers as well, ie: A/C gas instead on radiator coolant to cool down the intake air ? Also approx cost as well ? Also the previous model; was 2.300 Lt, which basically means you have around 360 cfm extra air going in, so any stock engine would be helped by better heads and cam package and a interchiller. :)

[@9663mu]

Good informative video. Thanks

[@panero718]

I think I’m going with Mag for my SS

[@timdatoolman7865]

I need one of these on my Silverado 😊. Great vid Andrew.

[@bikekid11]

Can’t wait to see a 2650 for my 15 camaro ss 1le that fits under the hood and sway bar

[@namantaylor554]

What cubic inch stroker did you say Texas speed sponsored you with a 460 or a 416

[@shanembradshaw]

416. 6.8L instead of 6.2

[@AC-kp8sp]

I wish tsp built coyote motors too👍

[@ronniewelch8947]

So you should put your blower on the 🌲 SS if it will fit.

[@thegonz7833]

I liked the edit chop for a once in awhile event

[@rob_was_here]

The choppy editing and talking made me give up on the point of this.... reshoot, not what we expect from you guys 👎🏻

[@leopedrao7887]

Same, couldn't finish the video and that's something I really wanted to see but man that editing was baaad

[@rob_was_here]

Cali Gang While I appreciate you not trying to blast me...I wasn’t asking a question, I understand the reasoning why it is choppy. I was simply making an observational comment saying that this content isn’t their norm and it was hard to watch. The whole video is jumpy, just seems like they were pushing out a video...

[@ronmcbee4743]

What are your thoughts on the new Kong 2650? Saw rpm install one on a cts-v

[@completestreetperformance]

I ordered a few lol. It's the blower upgrade for the LSA that everyone wanted. As far as upgrade for the LS9 it is, but it's not as big of a step. The blower is insanely capable.

[@markwh668]

Cool Max Headroom reference?

[@High_Desert_Tanner]

Everyone forgets Kenne Bell. More efficient, better cooling (the entire supercharger is water cooled to prevent heat soak), and you can pick from a bunch of different rotor sizes. You want a 1500hp Camaro? Kenne Bell can do it.

[@completestreetperformance]

Kenne Bell is a disaster on the LS engine. Does not flow properly so fuel trims are all over the place. The cooling is no where near what they claim. I would not recommend it in any shape for the LS or LT engines

[@High_Desert_Tanner]

@@completestreetperformance good to know!

[@storm91229]

Hoe does Magnuson compare with the New Kong 2650 Supercharger? What are the price differences?

[@hueyf7561]

He explained at the end how they compare and look up the prices my guy

[@shaneclk9854]

Did I hear that a twin screw is not as good as a roots type cause that makes no sense

[@thehappytexan]

Jump cut world record goes to...... this guy!

[@gdog0924]

No pro charger comparison?

[@completestreetperformance]

Just PD blowers for this comparison.

[@travispeoples]

I just bought a 5th gen Camaro! I'm excited to say the least... what's the safe max power level for the stock L99? Which supercharger would you recommend to do it? Thanks!

[@completestreetperformance]

Depends on the budget. But a factory LSA camshaft is a pretty nice go to. You will end up piecing a bit together for the 8 rib conversion though, so depending on budget and power goals, a Magnuson or Whipple might be better running on the 6 rib

[@chadwarner2235]

Would have been cool if you had the Kung performance there too

[@AROD.]

Why are your videos so choppy!??

[@AC-kp8sp]

Hello🙋‍♂️, Csp I've seen vengance make some good whipple cars will the Maggie be better? Can u do a video of why you like pd better then turbos or other way around whichever...

[@Breal1969]

To bad he doesn’t understand pressure dynamics or he would know that location isn’t gonna affect pressure or vacuum readings. Location will affect temp readings though. Just saying

[@addicted4life575]

Hahahahahha god, I am dying over your editing lol

[@jeffufcfanaticrosenberg]

doing the exact same build ! I need a sponsorship too ! had to pay full price.

[@johncrankshaft2886]

Some companies require to be able to pick your car up to take to events etc without you necessarily being there so sponsorships sometimes are not such a good idea.

[@robertm2172]

What a plug

[@02lb7dmax]

holy jump cuts batman

[@RobertKohut]

Nice!! Blown away... :-)

[@LoociferZ]

What happened to Eric?

[@completestreetperformance]

What do you mean?

[@LoociferZ]

@@completestreetperformance We never see's him! Has he blowd the silverback up yet or is she doing 1200HP no blowd up? Lastly, with all the high high horsepower builds starting to really come out, do you see a lot of places turning to hub dynos now that normal ones don't seem to be cutting it...tire slippage and just not enough balls to handle the 1200 and 1500 hp people are reaching for....

[@completestreetperformance]

Eric is buying a C8 with me lol

[@LoociferZ]

@@completestreetperformance You boys buying first wave or waiting for the second with all the sweetness? It sucks theres so much extra coming on the second wave. Like the extra specs are really extra. I'm buying on the second wave. Going for the blue they aren't making for the first wave. :/ Sucks to wait but its worth it for all the extra carbon, wheels,, nicer interior. Mods will be out though and we can start fucking with the engine by then. HP Tuners will be making a mint off you. :p

[@-redtango]

Stop the jumps and cut edit. We like it vlog style

[@bigd9848]

Love the Supercharger ✊Getting one myself and I have the same DR Pepper shirt 😁

[@BulletSpoung]

No more coffee for your editor.

[@mikelellsaesser1320]

Awesome video

[@thegonz7833]

Great content,looking forward to this build.What is the best treeL1 time for comparison sake?

[@michaelvond8205]

neck?

[@stompinmcallister1312]

Do a mag on the c8

[@jaimeedwards1269]

Why so many jump cuts it's so annoying

[@completestreetperformance]

I said ummmm too many times. Tried to cut them out. I'll be more careful with the cuts in the future. Thanks for the feedback!

[@tsigoloiborcim]

Poor Josh is Toby and Andrew is Michael.