Magyar Origins | DNA - Geneticist Razib Khan

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In this episode I am joined by geneticist Razib Khan as we dive into the genetic history and origins of the Magyars.
We begin by reflecting on what comes to our mind when we think of the Nomad Confederacy that terrorized Europe in the Early Middle Ages. We see a transformation as these Steppe "barbarians" become a part of the very heart of medieval Europe as they become Christianized.
But although they changed in many ways to become similar to their medieval Christian neighbors as Razib points out in an article titled "Hungarians as the ghost of the Magyar confederacy" they always remained European outsiders, as speakers of a language whose closest relatives are found in Siberia, a cultural mystery whose origins and affinity were only recently clarified by science.
We discuss historiography and the place that the Magyars have within history itself while also noting how our views have changed over time and why.
Lastly we see the birth of Modern Hungary, the expansion of the Ottoman Empire and the eventual fading away of the Magyars who chose to live and die by the sword.
What we learn as our guest points out is that the cultural legacy of the Magyars far outweighs their genetic impact and Hungary and the Hungarian people would not be the same today without the history and story of the Magyars.
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@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 2 жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts about the origins of the Magyars? SUPPORT the Barksdale Family and History Channel BELOW! gofund.me/2c47ae01

@papazataklaattiranimam 2 жыл бұрын

The Hungarian word árpa was borrowed from a Turkic language before the times of the Hungarian conquest of the Carpathian Basin (at the turn of the 9th and 10th centuries), from Proto-Turkic *arpa.[5][6][4] The Hungarians cohabited for centuries with Turkic people, which accounts for over 10% word roots in modern Hungarian being Turkic. In Hungarian, most pastoral terms are Turkic in origin, and agricultural terms are 50% r-Turkic. Many Hungarian names, and also animal and plant names,[7] are of Turkic origin, and the majority of tribe names were of Turkic origin.[8]Turkic is, along with Uralic, German and Slavic, one of the four languages that have the greatest percentage of word roots in the Hungarian language. However, the Magyars are not a Turkic people, though the Turks made a genetic and linguistic contribution.[9][10]

@mikloskeresztes4273 Жыл бұрын

@@papazataklaattiranimamIn the case of a similar word, there are at least 3 possibilities: Turkish -> Hungarian, Hungarian -> Turkish, or both from a common ancestor

@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын

@@mikloskeresztes4273 But nobody is saying Ugric and Turkic are related

@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын

Keyser et al. 2020, pp. 1, 8-9. "[O]ur findings confirmed that the Xiongnu had a strongly admixed mitochondrial and Y-chromosome gene pools and revealed a significant western component in the Xiongnu group studied.... [W]e propose Scytho-Siberians as ancestors of the Xiongnu and Huns as their descendants... [E]ast Eurasian R1a subclades R1a1a1b2a-Z94 and R1a1a1b2a2-Z2124 were a common element of the Hun, Avar and Hungarian Conqueror elite and very likely belonged to the branch that was observed in our Xiongnu samples. Moreover, haplogroups Q1a and N1a were also major components of these nomadic groups, reinforcing the view that Huns (and thus Avars and Hungarian invaders) might derive from the Xiongnu as was proposed until the eighteenth century but strongly disputed since... Some Xiongnu paternal and maternal haplotypes could be found in the gene pool of the Huns, the Avars, as well as Mongolian and Hungarian conquerors."

@mikloskeresztes4273 Жыл бұрын

According to science, the Hungarian language belongs to the Uralic language family. Based on similar words, the Hungarians separated around 3000 B.C. This means that hungarian language is at least 5000 year old. The latest archaeogenetic research also confirms this fact. The lion part of the Ural peoples are Hungarian. Therefore, it is much more likely that Hungarian language was the dominant language within the language family

@csikimesike Жыл бұрын

I am Székely (Secler), with a strong hungarian identity from Transylvania - now part of Romania. We have the same cultural heritage with Hungarians from Hungary, we speak hungarian, but we have slightly different look and diffrent approach of life. I would grateful if you could bring informations about our origins too.

@jackboyle5142 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, that would be awesome. I’m curious how their ancestry differs from mainland Hungarians

@hondacbrification 8 ай бұрын

@@jackboyle5142@lionboy4427 Since you as a "Russian" a Indo-Iranian speake have been pushing to this narrative of "TRUE" Ugro-Finnish" people not realising that Ugar,UnGar,HonGRi,VenGri,WanGer ... Onoguri actually refers to Hungarians let me explain basic facts . Modern Hungarians are Scythians which was a tribal alliance between different groups which according to current archeo-genetic evidence where made of Ugric meaning Hungarians and Finnish people. The Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian where and is a Gál-Kelt part which was and is a source group for such and so for the the so called Halastatt culture consequently Angelo -Sakson traced a such origins hence they had the ÆTELSTAN in hey names to indicate they ETELKÖZ origins which root word ETEL is Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian version of so called Attila.l where Yan-Han-Ban-Can-Dan apart from being a name it is a identity that is title of nobility which have a religious significance since that An is root word for Hungarian word for Annya meaning Mother and is linked to Turul-Turan Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian bird from which Hungarians traced they origins which is the same as AnZu bird, Griffin bird and arguably Nekhbet in other regions that Scythians-Szkita-Scotty-Saka-Makarian-Macarian have influenced. Consequently ETEL commonly known as Attila was a local Gaelic nobility that united the western tribes against Romans. Modern Russians as such are a mix of various groups from which some are Hungarians while some more Finnish or more Eastern groups or some other which is why Belorus are more Finnish then Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian since they are closer related to Finish groups that like in other cases have simply been converted by Orthodoxy. Orthodoxy as such had-have a long tradition of rebranding others Historical figures, history, culture, traditions...as they own Orthodox which is how Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian King Béla 3rd got rebranded as Jewnanistani king Alexios just as the entire Cuman-Coman Byzantine Dynasty or Varangian Rurik-Urak hence like in case of Prince Izjaslav Ingarevych case we can say that he was not only genetically related to House of Árpád but as his surname points out he was identified as Ingar-UnGar-Hungarian. Hence Orosz Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian surname associated with modern Russian land and people comes from the ETELKÖZ era where Orthodoxy wasn't present in the land hence the old traditions, culture, language...was spoken and understand that was native in its entirety.

@MyHeadExplodez 8 ай бұрын

i am hungarian, my dad is from Transsylvania , and i believe we come from the same directions for most of the time. Although , i also believe that we have been mixed around the ex Ukraine parts with the RusVikings, and there we could have gotten the nordic details.

@hondacbrification 8 ай бұрын

@@MyHeadExplodez We have archeo-genetic genetic facts and they are clear that we haven't come but where already in the land for thousands of years. Rus-Rys-Ros is a Gaelic identity and we know that Varangian Nobility that got rebranded as Kijewish Rus by Orthodoxy in a similar fashion as Hungarian King Béla 3rd was rebranded to Jewnanistani king Alexios just as entire Cuman-Coman Byzantine Dynasty.We know that such Varangian Urak-Rurik dynasty where a Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian and Swedish mix a offshoot of old Hungarian A Vár nobility which is why they where related to House of Árpád which moved from Central ETELKÖZ, ÆTELSTAN,ETELIA to its more western part due to infightings caused by Islam.We also know that Gál as Gaelic just as Kelt -Celt are Hungarian words -identities from which Mongolia derived from where Gál is root word for the word Galamb meaning Dove 🕊️ that is linked to Turan -Turul traditions which are found in EtRusCan culture just as Turkic in east. Consequently moving in the land of your ancestors doesn't refers to conquest of any kind especially if Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian lived throughout the entire lands.

@_.Leo_. 8 ай бұрын

@@NikiszaszBe proud of your gypsy origins. Good stuff, colorful and very thieving

@leonardlerario8180 2 жыл бұрын

Keep Fighting Nick and thank you for sharing your love of Historical Knowledge with all of us .

@xv3elnino 2 жыл бұрын

Get well! Thank you for doing a video on the Magyars. I am Magyar myself, so I am very interested in the topic. One thing I'd like to add, and it is based on my observation living in Hungary. My documented ancestry is from Germany, Poland and Slovakia, but regarding the ancient Magyar DNA; if you were to take a stroll in the town my parents are from you would be surprised how much a certain percentage of people look like the Sami and Mansi. When I first looked at pictures of these Uralic peoples it was like I am looking at my father's family photo album. My theory is that the average Magyar, was genetically related, and some still are (varies by settlement) to the Uralic ancestors in a larger percentage. The nobility/leadership however were Huns. Nevertheless, we Magyars know, that more than our ethnicity, it is our language that binds us together and gives us our identity. Thank you for reading.

@goddessIv 2 жыл бұрын

It's very interesting...what came to mind is Jasz-Nagykun-Szolnok county for instance. Cumans and Jas people were allowed to settle in Hungary around 1300 when they were fleeing from the Mongols and their descendants still live in these regions. There are many other ethnic groups in Hungary depending on region.

@hondacbrification 2 жыл бұрын

I personally think Razib should flush down his diploma through toilet in case if he has any for he doesn’t know even the basics and certainly haven’t looked at genetics . MagYar are Two words and directly related to MacAr (MacArISTAN is still a name used) which relates to word MakAr that is the root word for a city that was established over 4000 years ago and is called Makarska hence like genetics has proven like myself a Makai our people have been native to land in 2000BCE for our Hungarian called themselves ManGaL and not MonGOL as later sources claimed to be the name who established ULán Bátor. Our traditions claim a Sian(Scythian)Hun(Han) origins which was by default GaL tribal coalition meaning yes Hungarian,Hongri,Vengri,Ugri,Ugar…where a nobility at the time before so called SLAV meaning With Lion have lost they GaL identity and language like more Germanic speakers who called themselves S Löwen which later become SLoven . As for MacArian legacy it makes me wonder who made this person above a Hán for he obviously doesn’t even know after whom is he called as such and has certainly never looked at genetic map of R1A and R1B Haplogroup and tried to explain why they are so widespread around the world. As for EtEL commonly known as Attila the Han according to Hungarian traditions he was a local Hungarian who defended the GaL tribal land against Roman expansion who where not friendly towards GAL by default without whom S Lav would have left nothing from they identity since he was A Lán meaning The Lion who made those identity lost ancestors S Lav till they turned against GaL… which is why they don’t have a slightest idea what does they National name or it’s capital means for like in case of VLadimir the Great from whom Ukrainian and Russian trace they origins even do is known that his real name was Valdemar the Great and was a Danish king and hasn’t spoken Russian or Ukrainian language since it hasn’t existed at that time for it’s a result of Southern nationalism breaking in GaL land and forcing linguistic and other reforms on GaLs which is why Evangelical movement is called as since the point was to change GaL concept and identity by perverting it to a new interpretation. People can believe that MacAr,MaCAbby (MacAbean) like rest of allegedly Jewish-Greek have been Jewish or Greek the reality is that Árpád,Béla,Géza,OrBán,Báni,Háni,Jáni,Cáni,Káni,Ábra,Ábrám,ÉL,ÉLjön….has absolutely no meaning in they language neither is used by them even do like Arphaxad,Arpad,Carpathos…are claimed to be related to Greek-Jewish culture even do like GaLilee,GALicia,GALatea ….where and are GaL in origins like the Hungarian pig breed ManGalica. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d322aJibqq6KfJY kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnSTdZianJllfrs kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJDbXoaDa7iWqbc

@user-fg6xj2tq5q 2 жыл бұрын

szelekys had high asian dna .... and my mother is szeleky

@hondacbrification 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-fg6xj2tq5q I’m a David and my DNA relates according to science to today Irish,Scottish,Norman I’m the west all the way to MonGolian. Hungary traditions trace as Sian(Scythian)-Han descendant which like rest of evidence simply suggests that majority of what we call today Europe was Sian TriBAL land as well where the separation came from Roman intrusion in to our land. As for the modern Greek-Roman stories it’s is known to Hungarian wise that they are a late invention which where inserted at for a long time mainly during Roman inquisition which purpose was to destroy all the books and knowledge of the time and leave it only in Roma. Székely root word is Szék meaning Chair that is associated with the Throne and fundamentally what will call Han-Hun meaning Scythian Royalty to whom Westerners including Roman intermarried which is why EtEL commonly known as Attila had a Roman wife who’s land unlike Roman portrays did stretched according to our traditions all the way to Hindu Kush to which some claim to have traveled many times for it was seen as Holly Land . Today Catholics pray as Buddhist and use Buddhist Meditation tool called Rosary 📿 exactly because this cultural influence from where I think there is a clear proof of Biblical people being actually Sian-Scythian for they where called Shepherd Kings who where known in Egypt as well and there is simply historical no other place or people or land other then Sian land where Pastoral way of life was the main source of food. I can’t imagine not having milk and milk products on daily basis while strangely to many it is poison they can’t have it.Needles to say the consumption of milk and milk products apart from being a food and cultural trait it is source of protein better then any other due to which people are bigger and stronger most of the time then people who simply don’t have a such culture and such hasn’t attained genealogy needed to digest milk without negative health effect. I personally have a nearly half half split between Székely southern Hungarian line and that with Ukrainian-Russian which seems to focus around BashKiria once where our centre was due to which I’m higher then majority of Székely and weight over 100kg even do I don’t have excessive amount of fat just strong bones. A Sia simple Means The Scythia who are now simply divided by people who has a interest in dividing Scythian for everyone knew that only was to defeat Scythian is to divide them amongst themselves so they fight one another which is why we say that ETEL (Attila) showed the strength of Scythia when obliterated they empire that was at the time when they where still expanding in to our lands which the reason why AchæMENid army of 1.000.000 nearly perished when they broke in Scythian land through the gate of Heaven or how we call CaucaSIAN Örményország and faced the lions A Lán in a fight they made they whole empire collapsed.

@user-fg6xj2tq5q 2 жыл бұрын

@@hondacbrification trrue.. I'm from Kazakhstan but my father is tatar with some russian and bashkir and my mother is szekely (during the soviet times her parents move to ukraine) i never really care about the history but im starting to get interested now

@borbalaequestrian1315 Жыл бұрын

I have Magyar on my maternal side. In fact my mother's cousin was kept in the hospital an extra day back in the 1930's because she had a "Mongolian spot" on her lower back. The nurse thought she had been bruised by her mother until the doctor asker my great aunt if she was Hungarian since it was a mostly Hungarian area in the city at the time. Then the doctor told the nurse what it was and they released them.

@Ersen_abiniz Жыл бұрын

Respect from Türkiye. My son had this mongolian spot too. When l look at Myheritage test results l saw l have central asian, japanese and korean, and inuit

@EasternOrthodox101 Жыл бұрын

🤺☦🇷🇺The Scythians, including the Magyar tribe, were haplogroup N (= Ashkenaz) - not different peoples. Magyars, Avars, Cumans, Pechenegs, Sami, Balts and Sakha are the Scythian race, and they are all Finnic peoples. Magyars were only the ruling tribe in Hungary, and not genetically related to majority of today's Hungarians, who are mostly Slavs mixed with Celts and Illyrians

@hondacbrification 8 ай бұрын

@lionboy4427 Since you as a "Russian" a Indo-Iranian speake have been pushing to this narrative of "TRUE" Ugro-Finnish" people not realising that Ugar,UnGar,HonGRi,VenGri,WanGer ... Onoguri actually refers to Hungarians let me explain basic facts . Modern Hungarians are Scythians which was a tribal alliance between different groups which according to current archeo-genetic evidence where made of Ugric meaning Hungarians and Finnish people. The Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian where and is a Gál-Kelt part which was and is a source group for such and so for the the so called Halastatt culture consequently Angelo -Sakson traced a such origins hence they had the ÆTELSTAN in hey names to indicate they ETELKÖZ origins which root word ETEL is Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian version of so called Attila.l where Yan-Han-Ban-Can-Dan apart from being a name it is a identity that is title of nobility which have a religious significance since that An is root word for Hungarian word for Annya meaning Mother and is linked to Turul-Turan Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian bird from which Hungarians traced they origins which is the same as AnZu bird, Griffin bird and arguably Nekhbet in other regions that Scythians-Szkita-Scotty-Saka-Makarian-Macarian have influenced. Consequently ETEL commonly known as Attila was a local Gaelic nobility that united the western tribes against Romans. Modern Russians as such are a mix of various groups from which some are Hungarians while some more Finnish or more Eastern groups or some other which is why Belorus are more Finnish then Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian since they are closer related to Finish groups that like in other cases have simply been converted by Orthodoxy. Orthodoxy as such had-have a long tradition of rebranding others Historical figures, history, culture, traditions...as they own Orthodox which is how Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian King Béla 3rd got rebranded as Jewnanistani king Alexios just as the entire Cuman-Coman Byzantine Dynasty or Varangian Rurik-Urak hence like in case of Prince Izjaslav Ingarevych case we can say that he was not only genetically related to House of Árpád but as his surname points out he was identified as Ingar-UnGar-Hungarian. Hence Orosz Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian surname associated with modern Russian land and people comes from the ETELKÖZ era where Orthodoxy wasn't present in the land hence the old traditions, culture, language...was spoken and understand that was native in its entirety.

@gyulaerdei3180 4 ай бұрын

@@EasternOrthodox101..... Még lenne minek utánanézned ..... A magyar gén...- R1 a ..... !!!!! :)

@attilakovacs1415 2 ай бұрын

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@dragonstonefirechief 2 жыл бұрын

Get well Nick. Thinking about you. Thank you for everything you have created.

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Andreas for watching and commenting your support!

@ajithsidhu7183 2 жыл бұрын

@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 please do Punjab jatts

@EasternOrthodox101 Жыл бұрын

@VicaCica72 Жыл бұрын

From the publication: The genetic origin of Huns, Avars, and conquering Hungarians Huns, Avars, and conquering Hungarians were migration-period nomadic tribal confederations that arrived in three successive waves in the Carpathian Basin between the 5th and 9th centuries. Based on the historical data, each of these groups are thought to have arrived from Asia, although their exact origin and relation to other ancient and modern populations have been debated. Recently, hundreds of ancient genomes were analyzed from Central Asia, Mongolia, and China, from which we aimed to identify putative source populations for the above-mentioned groups. In this study, we have sequenced 9 Hun, 143 Avar, and 113 Hungarian conquest period samples and identified three core populations, representing immigrants from each period with no recent European ancestry. Our results reveal that this "immigrant core" of both Huns and Avars likely originated in present day Mongolia, and their origin can be traced back to Xiongnus (Asian Huns), as suggested by several historians. On the other hand, the "immigrant core" of the conquering Hungarians derived from an earlier admixture of Mansis, early Sarmatians, and descendants of late Xiongnus. We have also shown that a common "proto-Ugric" gene pool appeared in the Bronze Age from the admixture of Mezhovskaya and Nganasan people, supporting genetic and linguistic data. In addition, we detected shared Hun-related ancestry in numerous Avar and Hungarian conquest period genetic outliers, indicating a genetic link between these successive nomadic groups. Aside from the immigrant core groups, we identified that the majority of the individuals from each period were local residents harboring "native European" ancestry.

@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын

Hungarians have Turco-Ugric paternal and Slavo-Germanic maternal genetic roots. 7 Magyar and 3 Kabar tribes enslaved local Pannonian women.

@noraheist 8 ай бұрын

@@papazataklaattiranimam no they don't, why are people so pushy about this agenda? This is misinformation and the desire of some nationalist Turks to 'reunite' the turkic federations. Leave us out of that please, it's weird.

@birocsabal 7 ай бұрын

@@papazataklaattiranimam Stop the bullshit. Thanks😊

@gyulaerdei3180 2 ай бұрын

Bevándorlasok : ... 5500 éve , /korábban is , és később is / Kárpat-medencébő , milliós nagyságrendű népesség vándorol ki ..... ! - erről senki nem beszél ! - többségében - ezek térnek később vissza - különböző neveken ! :)

@agotaruzsa 7 ай бұрын

A few questions 1. Why don’t you ask Hungarian historians? 2. Onogur means 10 tribes 7+3 tribes But there are so many new understanding based on recent archeology and genetics

@attilakovacs1415 2 ай бұрын

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@greenfireball2882 2 жыл бұрын

Hope to see you back soon Nick! Thanks for all the vids. Get well soon!!

@nathanruben3372 7 ай бұрын

Hungary is currently observer in Turkic States Coalition. Turkic states are forming EU like structure with army... They have natural resources, population, technology. I believe they will be a great power soon.

@jivanselbi3657 2 ай бұрын

yes..even without the Coalition you mentioned, Turkic people(Turks, Tatars, Kazaks, Bashkirs..) always felt somehow kinship to Hungarians..despite religious differences, we love Hungarians

@AlexAlex-zv7fc 8 ай бұрын

I visited Turkey. The cuisine of Anatolia (inner Turkey) is very similar to Hungarian cuisine.

@GaraYusufbey 3 ай бұрын

Üdvözlet és szeretet Törökországból testvérországomnak, Magarynak Töröknek érzik magukat a magyarok? Feltennéd ezt a kérdést az utcán?Törökök? 🇹🇷🇹🇷🖤🇭🇺🇭🇺 🇭🇺🇹🇷🇦🇿🇰🇬🇰🇿🇺🇿🇹🇲🙏🙏🙏🙏

@attilakovacs1415 2 ай бұрын

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@julieanntoth5676 Ай бұрын

My parents were from Budapest Hungary. Mother born in 1900 and her faith was Greek Orthodox and my father born 1898 was Roman Catholic. He enlisted in the Hungarian army at the age of 17 or 16 🇭🇺 he was captured fortunately escaped and the rest is history. I am proud of my Hungarian heritage and 80 years old to be here to express it😌 Thank you for your podcast🙏Do Hungarians feel like Turks🇹🇷🤔sometimes I wonder maybe that is why I love watching their Turkish movie series lately I find it quite interesting how our culture intermingled with how similar their Turkish language and Hungarian language that caught my eye

@attilakovacs1415 Ай бұрын

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@LorenzoGiannetti 2 жыл бұрын

Nick, don't you dare not coming back swiftly sharing your love for history with all of us. Get well and fully recover.

@Boric78 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to seeing you soon again, Nick. Keep fighting.

@balzug 7 ай бұрын

One thing to add, the Hungarians were semi-nomadic people. So, when they moved to and settled down in the Carpathian Basin, their people consisted of nomad horsemen but also of people who were familiar with agriculture. The Hungarians were not only fighting horsemen. The word Magyar refers to one of their tribes (Megyer) which became superior. The Asian bloodline is diluted but still present as is the oriental wildness.

@michaelwalcund7574 2 ай бұрын

MAybe you confused the ethnic Hungarians with neo- Cuman minority of Kunság (Cumania) region. It is a great mistake!

@oxvendivil442 2 жыл бұрын

Hope he gets well, as an East Asian, Hungarians are like a very distant relative or a group that preserved an Asian language but whose lineage has been heavily diluted by the Europeans they dominated just like modern day Turks.

@chengezhussaini1464 2 жыл бұрын

To an extent yes. With all due respect saying so. :)

@anuszbizsergetokommentek2171 Жыл бұрын

Hungarians were 50/50 european when we arrived. We just became more european

@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын

Hungarians only have 5-15% Ugric blood whereas Turks have 25-45% Turkic blood

@balazsvarga1823 5 ай бұрын

Hungarian naming, date and language structure is very east asian. But there had been a lot of genetic mixing with Austrians during the dual Monarchy age.

@michaelwalcund7574 2 ай бұрын

About the Finno-Ugric and IE language groups. Just some Hard-facts: The Finno-Ugric branch of the Uralic super linguistic family was BORN and developed in N-Eastern Europe (in the Elbe- Baltic Sea - Ural triangle region), while the EARLIEST ancient proto- IE speakers appeared in Europe (Eastern Ukraine) only a MILLENIUM LATER, after wandering westwards from the CENTRAL ASIAN steppe zone to modern territory of Ukraine. Let's don't forget: In the Eurasian supercontinent, there are much more native speakers of IE languages on the ASIAN continent than on the European continent. (Just remember the large IE speaking populations of India, Pakistan, and Iran) However, the 97% of Finno-ugric speaking people live in Europe. Therefore to call Finno-ugric languages as "Asian languages" is laughable illogical, unscientific and misleading.

@OblateSpheroid 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your work. Love hearing from Razib.

@attilakovacs1415 9 ай бұрын

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@josephglaeser9674 Жыл бұрын

Oh man. I never knew about this. I love what you’ve done Nick thank you for everything!

@attilakovacs1415 9 ай бұрын

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@patrickfranklin108 2 жыл бұрын

Bro love from Ireland 🍀🇮🇪🍀 GET WELL SOON XX

@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 2 жыл бұрын

You have my love and thanks from Oklahoma, USA!

@patrickfranklin108 2 жыл бұрын

@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 🤞

@patrickfranklin108 2 жыл бұрын

@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 I Watched a sad video yesterday to hear of a man I expected to return and give us his enthusiasm for knowledge learning and understanding of the worlds history,My deepest condolences on your loss of a friend father and teacher i have no words to express a man gone too soon and well before his time,for the time i had is greatly appreciated in listening to someone just wanting to share and learn….Many Thanks and love from Ireland 🇮🇪

@fraso7331 2 жыл бұрын

Get well! But take the time you need. I even watch that boring DNA stuff, because I miss your content, but your health and your family is worth more. We want to watch your channel for long years to come and can wait.

@attilakovacs1415 9 ай бұрын

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@thumbstruck 2 жыл бұрын

Stay strong. History: we get a better idea where we're going when we know where we've been.

@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын

The conquest proper of Hungary is dated at the end of the ninth century, in 896, when the seven Hungarian tribes (Nyék, Megyer, Kirt Gyarmat, Jenó, Tarján, Kér, and Keszi) and the three Kabar tribes, led by Prince Árpád, gradually filled up the Carpathian basin, except for the zones of beechwood and the coniferous forests. The "conquering Hun garians" are equivalent to the upper circle of the people (with rich furniture); some of them spoke two languages: Onogur-Turk and Ugrian-Hungarian.

@963ag 2 жыл бұрын

Despite my last name, ( from my Spanish husband) both of my parents were Hungarian. My father, Gabriel Gyozo from Sopron, and my mother, Ujhelyi Zsuzsanna, from Dunabogdany. My understanding is that there are 2 major theories - the northern taiga ( Siberia) region - Finno- Ugric - Uralic. And the steppe area around the Black and Caspian Seas... Scythians, Huns, Avars etc. The R1a haplogroup is dominant and there is a definite Eurasian connection, but in the past 1000 - 800 years there has been much admixture with mostly Slavic and Germanic people. The language, folk art and music is unique and shows Asian roots.

@ver_idem 2 жыл бұрын

R1a is also a indoeuropean haplogroup also as its sister R1b both descedants from the Yamnaia Civilization,the real finno ugric geneticroot is quite "disparu",that we go to the conclusion that the "old magyar" where poligamic like the muslims,real breed stallions,womens (european,asians etc.)taken as warprey,slaves and so on,so manny kids adopted^^.

@NoahBodze Жыл бұрын

My ancestry is from just outside Sopron - Hegyko - but you’ll notice that part of the world is as much a part of the German sphere of influence as Hungarian.

@hondacbrification 8 ай бұрын

@@lumina5@lionboy4427 Since you as a "Russian" a Indo-Iranian speake have been pushing to this narrative of "TRUE" Ugro-Finnish" people not realising that Ugar,UnGar,HonGRi,VenGri,WanGer ... Onoguri actually refers to Hungarians let me explain basic facts . Modern Hungarians are Scythians which was a tribal alliance between different groups which according to current archeo-genetic evidence where made of Ugric meaning Hungarians and Finnish people. The Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian where and is a Gál-Kelt part which was and is a source group for such and so for the the so called Halastatt culture consequently Angelo -Sakson traced a such origins hence they had the ÆTELSTAN in hey names to indicate they ETELKÖZ origins which root word ETEL is Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian version of so called Attila.l where Yan-Han-Ban-Can-Dan apart from being a name it is a identity that is title of nobility which have a religious significance since that An is root word for Hungarian word for Annya meaning Mother and is linked to Turul-Turan Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian bird from which Hungarians traced they origins which is the same as AnZu bird, Griffin bird and arguably Nekhbet in other regions that Scythians-Szkita-Scotty-Saka-Makarian-Macarian have influenced. Consequently ETEL commonly known as Attila was a local Gaelic nobility that united the western tribes against Romans. Modern Russians as such are a mix of various groups from which some are Hungarians while some more Finnish or more Eastern groups or some other which is why Belorus are more Finnish then Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian since they are closer related to Finish groups that like in other cases have simply been converted by Orthodoxy. Orthodoxy as such had-have a long tradition of rebranding others Historical figures, history, culture, traditions...as they own Orthodox which is how Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian King Béla 3rd got rebranded as Jewnanistani king Alexios just as the entire Cuman-Coman Byzantine Dynasty or Varangian Rurik-Urak hence like in case of Prince Izjaslav Ingarevych case we can say that he was not only genetically related to House of Árpád but as his surname points out he was identified as Ingar-UnGar-Hungarian. Hence Orosz Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian surname associated with modern Russian land and people comes from the ETELKÖZ era where Orthodoxy wasn't present in the land hence the old traditions, culture, language...was spoken and understand that was native in its entirety.

@birocsabal 7 ай бұрын

@@ver_idem the genetic analysis of conquering era magyar cemeteries (graves of the elite) shows that the genetic makeup of the men and women were the same. That means that an intact "nation" (not by the modern definition, but like an ethic kingroup) moved in, not just a few warriors with random girls picked up from random places. The data even shows that they had two distinctive populations that only united 2-3 generations earlier. This enforces a) the hungarian legend about creating the tribal federation by blood oath before the move, and b) the contemporary sources that tell the hungarians at that time were bilingual.

@susanlegeza7562 6 ай бұрын

@@birocsabalbilingual, what to languages?

@reportedstolen3603 2 жыл бұрын

Every discovery lends a hand to the complicated nature of humanity. When ever we try to define a group of people at a certain time, we see constant migration, intermixing, and conquering. I think anyone that believes they are “pure” , must be ignoring all the evidence.

@Blalack77 2 жыл бұрын

This stuff is so freaking interesting. There are a lot of groups like this in like eastern/south-eastern Europe/Western Asia/Eurasia/Anatolia/the "-stan" countries/etc whose history and origins are so interesting to me - I've got this gigantic list somewhere of historical groups of people that I want to research. I guess it's because a lot of these places were right on the border of lots of different cultures, religions, nations, languages, etc and it makes them pretty complex. I think another reason I find a lot of these groups so interesting is because a lot of the time, they seem to be in the background of other stories - like often, they seem to be in the background/periphery as the "invaders"/"barbarians" in stories about Rome, Europe, etc who I've focused a lot of time learning about. For whatever reason and whatever you'd call these groups collectively, I find them very interesting.

@AnnaLVajda 2 жыл бұрын

Savages in a savage place and time.

@hondacbrification 2 жыл бұрын

I personally think Razib should flush down his diploma through toilet in case if he has any for he doesn’t know even the basics and certainly haven’t looked at genetics . MagYar are Two words and directly related to MacAr (MacArISTAN is still a name used) which relates to word MakAr that is the root word for a city that was established over 4000 years ago and is called Makarska hence like genetics has proven like myself a Makai our people have been native to land in 2000BCE for our Hungarian called themselves ManGaL and not MonGOL as later sources claimed to be the name who established ULán Bátor. Our traditions claim a Sian(Scythian)Hun(Han) origins which was by default GaL tribal coalition meaning yes Hungarian,Hongri,Vengri,Ugri,Ugar…where a nobility at the time before so called SLAV meaning With Lion have lost they GaL identity and language like more Germanic speakers who called themselves S Löwen which later become SLoven . As for MacArian legacy it makes me wonder who made this person above a Hán for he obviously doesn’t even know after whom is he called as such and has certainly never looked at genetic map of R1A and R1B Haplogroup and tried to explain why they are so widespread around the world. As for EtEL commonly known as Attila the Han according to Hungarian traditions he was a local Hungarian who defended the GaL tribal land against Roman expansion who where not friendly towards GAL by default without whom S Lav would have left nothing from they identity since he was A Lán meaning The Lion who made those identity lost ancestors S Lav till they turned against GaL… which is why they don’t have a slightest idea what does they National name or it’s capital means for like in case of VLadimir the Great from whom Ukrainian and Russian trace they origins even do is known that his real name was Valdemar the Great and was a Danish king and hasn’t spoken Russian or Ukrainian language since it hasn’t existed at that time for it’s a result of Southern nationalism breaking in GaL land and forcing linguistic and other reforms on GaLs which is why Evangelical movement is called as since the point was to change GaL concept and identity by perverting it to a new interpretation. People can believe that MacAr,MaCAbby (MacAbean) like rest of allegedly Jewish-Greek have been Jewish or Greek the reality is that Árpád,Béla,Géza,OrBán,Báni,Háni,Jáni,Cáni,Káni,Ábra,Ábrám,ÉL,ÉLjön….has absolutely no meaning in they language neither is used by them even do like Arphaxad,Arpad,Carpathos…are claimed to be related to Greek-Jewish culture even do like GaLilee,GALicia,GALatea ….where and are GaL in origins like the Hungarian pig breed ManGalica. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnSTdZianJllfrs kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJDbXoaDa7iWqbc

@EasternOrthodox101 Жыл бұрын

@michaelwalcund7574 2 ай бұрын

@@hondacbrification You spread pseudo history.

@hondacbrification 2 ай бұрын

@@michaelwalcund7574 I base my views on actual FACTS and not some crazy baseless Ah Story of crazy people.

@norinecook844 2 жыл бұрын

Nick I love your enthusiasm for history and knowledge in your videos. Please get well ❤️‍🩹 soon

@gymnosophist7471 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you bounce back soon Nick! As for Mr Khan, I would like to know how you respond to recent research (for example by Neparázcki and Török) which shows that the “Conqueror” class Magyars are related directly to the Huns and the Scythians.

@hondacbrification 8 ай бұрын

@michaelwalcund7574 2 ай бұрын

They are NER companies of Fidesz party. They are related to pseudo-science.

@963ag 2 жыл бұрын

Interestingly, the legend of the White Stag is also know in areas of the Middle East and ancient Persia. Hunor and Magor supposedly have their ancestry traced to Nimrod of the Bible!

@attilakovacs1415 2 жыл бұрын

yes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

@EasternOrthodox101 Жыл бұрын

@xtiannoregisteredsurname5124 7 ай бұрын

look up Proto-Indo-European Myths, then you'll know why 👍

@gonczoltomi7824 7 ай бұрын

slavs and also germanic dna too

@HiltonFernandes Ай бұрын

Great video ! Thanks for sharing it.

@skeletalbassman1028 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you’re improving, Nick! I can’t wait to see your face again on this channel.

@JuanPablo-wk6pk 2 жыл бұрын

Get well Nick, Love from Argentina.

@eastwest1970 2 жыл бұрын

Bless you and thank you for everything

@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын

The Hungarian language is the most important source for reconstructing the West Old Turkic language spoken west of the Ural in the 5th-12th centuries. The study by Arpad Berta and Andras Rona-Tas deals with the etymology of about 500 Hungarian words which are or may be of Old Turkic, in some cases of Middle Turkic origin. The Hungarian-Turkic contacts began in the 5th century and lasted a long period. The earliest loanwords were copied from a Western Old Turkic idiom; the latest loanwords were borrowed from the language of the Cumans who settled down in Hungary in the first half of 13th century. The authors excluded the Ottoman words from the corpus. In all cases the authors give the etymology of the Turkic word, the reconstructed copied form, the form as adapted by the Hungarian language and the history of the word. The detailed introduction focuses on the former research, the historical setting and the technical framework. In the concluding chapters the authors reconstruct the Ancient Hungarian language at the time of the Turkic-Hungarian contacts and outline the structure of the West Old Turkic language. A bibliography and several indices help the reader to use the book. West Old Turkic: Turkic Loanwords in Hungarian, László Károly András Róna-Tas, Árpád Berta, László Károly

@attilakovacs1415 9 ай бұрын

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iICWg2eMg7yWatE

@hondacbrification 8 ай бұрын

@noraheist 8 ай бұрын

@@hondacbrification bro what's up with you calling everybody Russians?

@hondacbrification 8 ай бұрын

@@noraheist Rus-Ros-Rys is a Gaelic identity and Gál moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other regions.They are the reason why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so widespread. Russians consequently got the name from the Varangian Urak-Rurik that were a Hungarian-Swedish offshoot of A Vár nobility.

@tovarishcheleonora8542 8 ай бұрын

@@hondacbrification Dude.... You should take your pills and go back to the mental hospital.

@kovako6723 7 ай бұрын

Ok, as a hungarian a few new developments. They examined the remainings of a few hundred people from the time of the hungarian conquest. Both from the elite, and from the common people. The results show, 50% ugric, 15% hun, and 33% sarmata (persian) dna ancestry. With all respect, the hypothesis about the hungarian conquerors disspearearing is shaky at best for multiple reasons. He mentions Hungary had several wars between the mongol and ottoman invasion (1241-1526), that weared them off, the problem with this, is that this era was the perhaps most successfull time (with a short oligarchical period). Steady rise of the population (except for the plague), and the wars were mostly conquests, or successfull defensive battles from mongols, chezhs, ottomans. The Mohacs battle was a brutal defeat indeed, and a significant loss of the nobility, but to put it into context, the estimated loss was about 25 000 people (most of them common soldiers) while the population was more than 4 million. You have to know, a large portion of the elites at the time of the battle were either in Transsylvania, or sided with the Habsburg king (the legitimacy was in dispute). As a matter of fact, my lineage on my maternal side is dated back to the Mongol invasion in Transylvania and they were hungarian (a few documents shows this), and im not the only one remained, there are hundreds of people living today from that lineage. According to the archeological data (artifacts, hystorical descriptions, graves) the counquering hungarian tribes outnumbered the people that already lived here, 3-4 times. Now off course hungarians mixed with number of other people, the neigbouring ones obviously, and other asian tribes (like Jász, Kun), we know sachson, schwab people were invited in great numbers from the 12 century. Royal and many noble families consciously mingled with other european royal, and noble families. However the most critical reason for the change in our dna comes with the ottoman invasion. From 1526 the 4,2 million population (estimated to be 80% hungarian) fell to roughly 2 million in 1687, when the ottomans left the country. 150 years of constant war was, what weared us down an literally halfed the hungarian population. The habsurgs started a repopulation mostly from slavic, romanian and german origin. 50 years later, the population of Hungary reached the 4 million again, but the majority of the people were from a different ancestry, language.

@raulepure9840 7 ай бұрын

You have your numbers wrong and the facts are drawn from your conclusion.

@kovako6723 7 ай бұрын

@@raulepure9840 There is a possibility im wrong here or there (not by much), but you don't even have facts or arguments, so there is nothing to be argued with. That is not an opinion, just an empty judgement. Who cares!!! :D

@raulepure9840 7 ай бұрын

@@kovako6723 Let's take just one of your statements "According to the archeological data (artifacts, hystorical descriptions, graves) the counquering hungarian tribes outnumbered the people that already lived here, 3-4 times" Is very well known in general there is a ratio of 1/10 between incoming conquering people and native, there is no data to disprove this in the case of magyar invasion contrary there are arheological data that shows locals outnumbered invaders. Not to say that today genetic studies show without a doubt that today magyars are no different than neighbouring populations and genes related to old magyars like N paternal Ydna marker are almost absent.

@kovako6723 7 ай бұрын

@@raulepure9840 1/10 ratio as a general rule (with high deviation) applies for the nr of warriors of the conquering force, to all the conquered people , as the minimal necessary force. It is a widely questioned dated theory, and there are multiple examples, where far less conquering warriors succeeded (spanish/astec), and cases, when a higher ratio wasn't sufficient. In case of the hungarian counquest, it is welll documented in frankish and byzantine documents, the territory of the carpathian basin was very scarcely populated at that time. Avar tribes were demolished by Charlemagne and the southern region was the outskirt of the Bulgarian empire. The nr of hungarian warriors are also well documented in byzantine and frankish literature, since they take part many battles, on bth fronts (as an ally, and as enemy) there nr were estimated between 60-80 thousand, so the total nr of conquering hungarians were stimated 400-500 thousand. The excavated graves, villages and the artifacts from that period show a very distinct cultural background (mostly avar, but also sachson, slavic), from the hungarians (the avars have some similarity), and their occurence heavily suggest their nr. was somewhere around 200 thousand. We know (documented) that there were heavy fights in the western region (pannonia) that belonged to the Eastern-Frankish empire.

@raulepure9840 7 ай бұрын

@@kovako6723You are big time delusional. 400-500K hungarians?? so at some point in time they commit sepuku so today magyars are genetically just the same as premagyar population or as their current neighbours.

@chrissims3810 2 жыл бұрын

Keep fighting! I am truly sorry to hear of your health worries. Take you time you have a great team. God bless you and your family in the name of Christ Jesus.

@ernestTbass23 2 жыл бұрын

Prayers Nick!!!

@scarabcity2132 2 жыл бұрын

prayers to Nick and family x

@WildBillCox13 2 жыл бұрын

God bless you (and your doctors and other caregivers), Nick.

@mountainadventures7346 7 ай бұрын

I just had open heart surgery! I am very sorry! Keep fighting Nick!❤

@johnempirepower1176 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@historydocumentary 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, love your work. Would you consider a cross-over shout out for our fans?

@verapataky 2 ай бұрын

Guys everyone is forgetting about Maria Theresia who mixed other nations by giving free lands to svabs from Germany and sokac people from the balamst etc while the country was part of the Austro Hungarian empire

@Jordana1018 2 жыл бұрын

I donated, PLEASE GET WELL NICK!! 🧿🙏🏼❤️❤️❤️

@sallyreno6296 2 жыл бұрын

I tried to order merch. Vendor says my zip code "failed verification." Ridiculous and wrong. You need to fix this.

@Eumenis 2 жыл бұрын

Get well Nick, we miss you!

@kaloarepo288 2 ай бұрын

I have just been watching something in Italian language on You Tube about the early medieval Italian kings like king Berengar of Friuli who had to battle the growing Magyar threat which devastated Italy and she explained that the word "orco" - which means 'ogre" in English and is also the origin of the word "orca" or killer whale comes from "ungro" which means "Hungarian."

@DawnEdwards6267 2 жыл бұрын

Praying for Nick! Now to the pronunciation for Magyar it is MA- JAR with a short A. I am Hungarian. I am a direct descendant to Attila the Hun.

@ProvidenceNL 2 жыл бұрын

Mate, Magyars came to the Carpathians at the end of the 9th century, Atilla died in western Europe in the 5th century. Literally impossible to know who you are descended from when someone died 1600 years ago.

@ver_idem 2 жыл бұрын

Dear,Attila was a Hun and not a onughur,magyar means in mansi °Manman° also >Superman :).The huns where mongolic whith deformed skulls,the magyar are in the finnougric Languageunion.

@georgepooploslovesme9227 Жыл бұрын

@@ProvidenceNL you missed the point completely!

@georgepooploslovesme9227 Жыл бұрын

@@ver_idem Huns were a non homogeneous group they were Mongolic, Turkic, Iranic and Indo European, their heads were deformed due to them doing it themselves i believe its called head binding its a safe cultural practice thats done when a baby

@EasternOrthodox101 Жыл бұрын

@rosetownstumpcity 2 жыл бұрын

great video

@mspocahontas46 2 жыл бұрын

Prayers for you!!

@macrosales4438 2 жыл бұрын

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 I’ll be keeping him on prayer 🙏🏽

@Pwnagotchi-0 Жыл бұрын

Get well Nick, we need more videos from you.

@ArkhanNightman 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you pull through, Nick.

@kathleenwollesen3947 7 ай бұрын

I am Hungarian or Magar. Both my parents defected to America during the end of the last war. My roots go way back.

@mikloskeresztes4273 Жыл бұрын

About the Magyar's language: even 1000-year-old texts could be understood by today's Hungarians. Even children can understand 500-year-old poems perfectly. What other language knows this?

@Maveirck2142 Жыл бұрын

Ever heard of Greek?

@mikloskeresztes4273 Жыл бұрын

@@Maveirck2142 Thank you for info, I"l look after.

@mikloskeresztes4273 Жыл бұрын

@@Maveirck2142 The phonetics of modern Greek differ strongly from those of Ancient Greek and Koine.

@Maveirck2142 Жыл бұрын

@@mikloskeresztes4273 Yeah, the PHONETICS do. Which have nothing to do with written texts and therefore the Greeks can "perfectly understand" texts in Ancient Greek. But unlike your "500-year-old poems", Ancient Greek texts are thousands of years old. Belive it or not, phonetics of modern Hungarian also differ from those from 500 years ago but to a lesser extent, since less time has passed.

@mikloskeresztes4273 Жыл бұрын

@@Maveirck2142I admit, this is getting interesting. There is a Greek village in Hungary, Beloiannisz. I think I need to visit them.

@nukhetyavuz 9 ай бұрын

so sad he has passed away😭 watched some of his videos during my online studies for students...r.i.p.

@gkathleen969 2 жыл бұрын

Impossible to listen to, due to the complete mispronunciation of the name of the people being discussed. If these individuals were truly experts on this topic, the name of the people would be the first thing to do correctly. In the language, the letter “gy” is pronounced as an English “dj”. It is an insult to not learn the proper pronunciation of basic descriptors of a people.

@gustory1186 2 жыл бұрын

They aren’t speaking hungarian, they’re speaking english. Hence, they translate foreign words and names.

@hypercumstone44 2 жыл бұрын

God bless you, get well soon 🙏🏽

@mikloskeresztes4273 Жыл бұрын

what happened right before "terrorizig Europe"? 907 Battle near Bratislava, where the unified Western European army tried to push the Hungarians out of the Carpathian Basin. They failed.

@BrainyThyme3869 7 ай бұрын

I'm a descendant of Arpad, nice to wonder where my magyar family roots came from! although i'm mostly Scottish and English.

@alex-ff1mp 11 ай бұрын

I think is a big confusion in the area as there are hundred of tribes mixing and arriving in waves in the area as being open plane similar with the one from Asia planes. Huns are not the same as Cumans, Magyars, Schyths, Avars, Celts, etc.. but each of them brings something to the table - a name one, a language another one, the structure - another one, religion etc. The local population genetic is less impacted as it was mentioned in the video there are a military class that usually was displaced by the next wave.

@attilakovacs1415 9 ай бұрын

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iICWg2eMg7yWatE

@battison.1010 2 жыл бұрын

Nick, my man. Are you alright? Btw big fan of razib.

@vargaerwin851 Жыл бұрын

Kelly! I love you! But my huns, i search for you an little link, an paste here. Thank you very much! 🙏

@ozguryuksel5242 Ай бұрын

So Hungarians were consisted of 10 tribes of which 3 prominent tribes were definetely turkic Khazar-Kabar tribes. They were the fierce vanguards/scouts of the migrating horde. Also 2 of remaining 7 tribes have strong turkic(oghuric) vibes on their names which are Keszi (Keçi-goat?) and Tarjan (Tarhan-prince). And third tribe named Ker possibly related with iranic Alan tribe of Kerboi-Serboi-Kerboga. Alanic ( Ias-Iassic-Yazig-Yazir-Kerboi-Kulpei-As-Arsia ) elements existed along the pontic-caspian-kipchak steppe throughout 3rd Century BCE to 11th century CE. I know that is highly speculative but i believe famous Szekely people of transylvania are descendants of 3 Kabar tribes who were located to the Carpathian passages as ongoing protection duty against raiding Bulgar and Pecheneg parties.. Also their ethnonym Szekely resembles those turkic fashion of livestock affiliated ethnonyms. İ.e Ak Koyun-lu (with-white sheep) , Kara Keçi-li (with-black goat) , Deve-li (with-camel). Where Szekely is the oghuric version of Teke-li (with-male goat). Just saying.

@MichaelOH1952 7 ай бұрын

My DNA by comparison matches with the Árpád dynasty skeletal remains. On the maternal side there is a small percentage of Eastern Slav although the more recent ancestors were ethnically German from Bohemia and Moravia. On the paternal side, I have traced some ancestors back hypothetically from some of Norman descent in Ireland to other European nobility including the Árpáds, prior to discovering the Árpád DNA connection.

@ajonontio Ай бұрын

I am half hungarian on my moms side and i actually am part of the N haplogroup you’re talking about. My moms side was from a wealthy hungarian family in Debrecen and we actually are mostly all lactose intolerant and i had around 20% asian ancestry!

@r01dtox15 Жыл бұрын

Get well soon Nick. 🙏

@kharris9359 9 ай бұрын

Magyars, Huns, Kalmuks, Turks, Mongols, Seljucs, Kazars, Bulgars, Tatars, when does the Eurasian Steppe quit sending warriors on horseback?

@katalinpera9009 Ай бұрын

No...Nem egy helyről érkeztünk... Ez a bolygó eltorzítja az igazságot....Nem a genetikai összefüggés a lényeg, hanem a lelkiség és szellemiség...Utána jöhet a genetika...

@nukhetyavuz 9 ай бұрын

cuvash are also a turkish branch like the avsar or oguz turks

@Carebear20241 8 ай бұрын

I found out some of my ancestors are from Hungary, and a Magyar. I saw his name on the Kaiser Wilhelm arriving in New York in 1905 he was listed as coming from Hungary abd his ethnicity a Maygar. I have a lot of DNA from that area. I'm researching abd trying to find my family there. I LOVE learning about my heritage. ❤

@hondacbrification 8 ай бұрын

@Carebear20241 8 ай бұрын

@@hondacbrification m..

@noraheist 8 ай бұрын

@@hondacbrification A lot of what you wrote is pseudo-speculations that was shut down with multiple academic papers throughout the last 5 decades my friend

@hondacbrification 8 ай бұрын

@@noraheist It’s archeo-genetic FACTS unlike Jewropean lies that are desperately trying to insert themselves in to Ugar,Hongri,Hungarian,VenGri,WanGer…OnoGuri identity and so the steppe culture.

@tovarishcheleonora8542 8 ай бұрын

@@noraheist These people like him are always there everywhere if the video is about Hungarian origins or language. And these people always spam the comment replies with a wall of text that only contains bullcrap.

@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319 2 жыл бұрын

Subscribed.

@neerazaale5795 7 ай бұрын

Are there any ancient connection with present nepali Magar people with Magyar history?

@attilasipos2968 5 ай бұрын

What is this famous weapon, the khukri? Its curved blade has a sharpened inner curve. This weapon can also be found in a Scythian (Acient Magyar tribe) mass grave discovered in Russia. The Magar, like us Magyar, sing pentatonic melodies in their folk songs. Their folk instruments are hummingbirds, whistles, drums, and flutes. Their religion is a mixture of Buddhism, Hinduism and the ancient shaman Bon religion. Like the Szeklers, (East Magyar) they are buried with headstones with a tulip motif. In their origin story, a pair of brothers chasing a miracle deer comes to life, just like in the Magyar origin story. E.g. Ale (Él), Budha (Buda), Gharti (Kerti), Pun (Pán), Rana (Rána), Roka (Róka), Thapa (Tápá), Jhankri (Dzsánkri), Shreesh (Serés), Budhathoki (Budatoki), Garbuja (Gárbudzsa), Purja (Purdzsa), Ramjali (Rámdzsáli), Jugjali (Dzsugdzsáli). 7th - 3rd centuries BC. The roots start from the territory of today's southern Russia. The ancient legend of the golden deer is the same. No historical connection, just common ancestors.

@neerazaale5795 5 ай бұрын

@@attilasipos2968 wow @attilasipos I'm very grateful for your time for illuminating a little knowledge about how we share same ancestors with details on the stories & I'm really intrigued and amazed about the main clans name and how similar they are after so many long time of history. In Nepal our Magar people history is totally hidden and younger generations don't realise that our ancestors once had a rich history and culture that spread to many distance places. Is there any materials link that you can provide me for having more understanding in these ancient connections of Magar with Magyars?☺️ so, that the Nepali people can learn about Magar community and research more on our rich shared history with different geographical regions of the Mother Earth🌍🇳🇵.✌️🕊️

@attilasipos2968 5 ай бұрын

@@neerazaale5795 kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4eWp2aoq7WFnKc kzbin.info/www/bejne/foTahItrmc5or8k kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpbMgnd8fLuYoKs ( nyíl = तीर )

@attilasipos2968 5 ай бұрын

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ-xe4GOgdmioqs kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4qne59_qdFqnsk (Mode of burial)

@neerazaale5795 4 ай бұрын

TQ very much🇳🇵🕊️✌️

@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын

Hungarians are Ugric peoples by origin but Arpad dynasty was Turkic who found Hungary

@latakicsi2183 Жыл бұрын

said by a turboturks

@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын

Razib’s face does not resemble the Indo-Europeans in the slightest, but has a Pan-Indo-European ideology =P He calls R the Indo-European haplogroup, but even in Chadic peoples, R is dominant :)

@ropika8154 Ай бұрын

Im from Hungary, Mohács ( - pronounciation of the CS is like in the word of chivauva or chechen :D ), thanks for the video.

@papazataklaattiranimam 2 жыл бұрын

9:12 😐 R1A doesn’t mean only Indo-Iranian because haplogroups don’t determine ethnicity by this logic R1B carrying Chadic and Vasconic peoples are also Indo-Europeans =3

@papazataklaattiranimam 11 ай бұрын

@@cypher221Greeks are overwhelmingly Anatolian Neolithic Farmers not Hellenes😂

@childabductioninitaly8946 Ай бұрын

Extract from Neparáczki archaeogenetics: Based on Neparáczki, the following genetic distribution emerges from the 89 "occupier" graves excavated in Hungary: Scandinavian Germanic 39 (43.82%), Asian Hun 37 (41.57%), Caucasian 5 (5.61%), Slavic 2 (2 .25%), Other European 6 (6.75%). "The groups closest to the population of Karos are the early European farmers who lived 6000-3000 years ago (STR=Starcevo), the Middle Eastern Neolithic (MEN), the Szakálhát culture of the Carpathian basin (SZA), the Yamnayas (YAM, 3500-2300 BC Black steppe above the sea), the population of the Scythian kurgans of the Iron Age (KIK, 800-600 BC) and the Asian Bronze Age Scythians from the Tagar-Tachtyk culture (TAG, 800 BC - AD 400). The Central Asian Bronze Age is also close Sintastha culture (SIA, the first steppe nomads) and the population of the Iron Age Baraba steppe (BB3, southern Siberia)."

@quabot Жыл бұрын

God be with Nick. I know it's late in the history of the world, but I hope he's OK.

@childabductioninitaly8946 Ай бұрын

Saint Isidore (around 630) also mentions it with the following introductory lines: "The Hungarians, who before that were called Huns..." [The Latin Patrologia, volume 82, book nine, chapter two, article 66. Migne Patrologia latina Tomus 82. page 334. S. Isidori: Originum sive Etymologiarum liber. IX. chapter II § 66.], then Rubruk (circa 1254) writes the following referring to Isidorus "Isidorus says ... the Huns, who were later called Hungarians ...

@vandor1976 2 жыл бұрын

I am Hungarian or Magyar so it was very spicial for me just like tha avars and all the best for Nick

@veronicalogotheti5416 2 жыл бұрын

Hope he gets well

@Hellemokers 2 жыл бұрын

Go Nick!

@user-if4br9rf7f 3 ай бұрын

At 7:27 "might actually be..." It's garbled. This is a crucial point. What does he say!?!

@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын

@VicaCica72 Жыл бұрын

How do you know that the similar words were borrowed by the Hungarians , not Hungarians gave those words? I heard some words were claimed to have borrowed from turks, which are used in Mongolia. It seems people were borrowing words from the hungarians as they were moving from east to west.

@childabductioninitaly8946 Ай бұрын

Chronicon Pictum circa 1360 Noah - survivor of the flood (his son Jáfet, who received Europe from his father when the land was divided - according to the writings of St. Jerome - his son Magóg - the founder of the sittya, that is, the Hungarian family) Noah's other son Kham is his Kush, then Tana, who is the father of Nimrod Nimrod (who is the first king of the earth, who is the first king of the world.) is married to Enéh. His two sons, Hunor and Magor, are the founders of the Hun, that is, the Hungarian nation So: Noah's son Kham, his is Kús, then Tana, his is Nimrod, his is Hunor his Bor his is Dáma his is Keled, his is Keve, his is Kér his Belér, his is Kádár, his is Otmár, his Farkas, his is Bondofárd, his Bökény, his is Csanád, his is Budli, his Beszter, his Mike his Miske, his Ombód his Kölcse his is Levente his Lél, his is Zámor his Balog, hers is Bulcsú, his Szultan, hers is Berend, his is Kadocsa his Opos, his Ete, his is Szemeny, his is Torda, whose son is Bendegúz. Children of Bendegúz; Saint Etele, also known as Atilla (Food-Drink, i.e. Life..Body-Blood) (the second first king of the Hungarians, the Scourge of God, the Hammer of the World, the delimiter of our country) and he was Buddha (enlightened!) (material consciousness (Body level: active physical lifestyle) Magor (soul consciousness: process of becoming still)... The historical Buddha (Buddhism) Gautama Siddhartha, Gautama Buddha/Buddha The name Sakyamuni is a Sanskrit word, meaning 'Sage of the Shakyas'. Siddhartha Gautama's father is Sakya/Sakya, meaning Scythian... It is believed that the Sakyas/Sakyas originate from the ancient sage Gautama Maharisi (Magarisi/Magor) who lived in Vedic times... Atilla's son Csaba, his Ed, his Ügyek (Ugec), his Előd, his is Álmos, who led a significant part of the Hungarian people living in the east home. Árpád, son of Álmos, who strengthened our Carpathian country, dividing our people into seven parts, as follows: 1. Árpád, the most powerful, who fought at the forefront in battles, settled with his people in Pilis. 2. Szabolcs, still in the area of Szabolcs County. 3. In the part between Gyula, Transylvania and Nagyalföd. 4. Künd, next to the Nyír. 5. Lél, the Galgóc countryside became theirs. 6. Vérbulcsú, inhabited the elbow of Lake Balaton. 7. Örs, but the Sajó district became his accommodation. Árpád's son Zoltán, his is Taksony, his Géza, his Saint István (the third first king of our nation) Orseolo Peter Aba Samuel 1041-1044 Orseolo Peter the second time 1044-1046 Andrew I 1046-1060 Béla I 1060-1063 Solomon 1063-1074 Géza I 1074-1077 Laszlo I (Saint) 1077-1095 (Book) Kálmán 1095-1116 II. Stephen 1116-1131 II. (Blind) Béla 1131-1141 II. Géza 1141-1162 III. Stephen 1162-1172 II. Viceroy László 1162-1163 ARC. Viceroy István 1163-1165 III. Béla 1172-1196 Imre 1196-1204 III. László (minor) 1204-1205 II. Andrew 1205-1235 ARC. Béla 1235-1270 Stephen V 1270-1272 ARC. (Kun) László 1272-1290 III. András 1290-1301 Mixed house rulers (Czech) Wenceslas 1301-1305 (Bavaria) Otto 1305-1307 (Anjou) Robert Charles I 1308-1342 (Anjou) Louis I (the Great) 1342-1382 (Anjou) Mary 1382-1385 (of Durazzo) II. Charles (Little) 1385-1386 (Anjou) Mary 1386-1395 Sigismund (of Luxembourg) 1387-1437 (Habsburg) Albert 1438-1439 (Jagielló) Ulaszló I 1440-1444 (Habsburg) László V 1444-1457 Governor János Hunyadi 1446-1453 (Hunyadi) Mátyás I 1458-1490 (the moral decline of the world really began after the death of our lord Mátyás, after all, he was our last Sacral world king) (Jagiello) II. Ulaszló 1490-1516 (Jagiello) II. Louis 1516-1526 János Szapolyai 1526-1540 ....then came the chance and the time of the House of Habsburg....Mátyás Hunyadi closed his eyes and gave them the opportunity to rise...but unsuccessfully...

@papazataklaattiranimam 11 ай бұрын

the Danube delta, and the Black Sea. At this time, the same Arab geographers (as also Constantine Porphyrogenitus) speak of the "Majghari" as Turks, no doubt because both groups of these Finno-Ugrians had been organized by Bulgars: those of the Urals by the Bulgars of Kama, those of Atelkuzu by the Onoghundur or Onogur, who in the ninth century occupied the southeastern region of the Carpathians." The name of Hungarians, to denote the Magyars, may have originated with these Onogur who mingled with them in the second half of the ninth century. Other sources link these Finno-Ugrian Magyars with another Turkic tribe, the Kabars, who are associated with the Khazars and who are believed to have given the Magyars their royal family, the Arpads. The presence of an Onogur or Kabar Turkic aristocracy among the Magyars would explain the Byzantine protocol by which, in the exchange of ambassadors under Constantine Por phyrogenitus, Magyar chiefs were always refered to as "Princes of the Turks, ἄρχοντες τῶν Τουρκων." 14 Around 833 the Magyars were living in Levedia, between the Don and the Dnieper, within the clientele of the great Turkic empire of the Khazars. Toward 850 or 860, driven from Levedia by the Petcheneg Turks, they entered Atelkuzu. They reached the Danube delta around 880. In their new Danubian domain, the Hungarians continued to be clients of the Turkic kingdom of the Khazars (see below), and it is believed to have been a Khazar khan who, as suzerain, appointed a young noble of the Kabar tribe, named Arpad, to be prince among the Hungarians. Shortly afterward, the Byzantine emperor Leo VI, being then at war with Simeon, the Bulgarian czar, called the Hungarians to his aid. The Hungarians, led by Arpad, crossed the Danube and put Bulgaria to fire and the sword. But the Bulgarians then appealed to the Petchenegs, now masters of the Russian steppe, who at tacked the Hungarians in the rear and forced Arpad and his people to take refuge in the mountains of Transylvania. At that moment, Arnulf, king of Germania, at war with the Slav ruler Sviatopolk, king of Great Moravia (Czechoslovakia, Austria, and western Hungary), decided like the Byzantine to appeal to the Hungarians. Arpad came in haste and overcame Sviatopolk, who disappeared in the conflict (895). Great Moravia collapsed, and the Hungarians took up permanent abode in the country which was subsequently named after them (899). From there, their bands sallied forth to ravage the West. They invaded Italy as far as Pavia (900). In Germany they crushed the last Carolingian king, Louis the Child (910). They launched a raid into Lorraine (919), set fire to Pavia, passed beyond the Alps to the Frankish kingdom of Burgundy and Provence (924); another raid fol lowed, to Attigny in Champagne (926); they plundered the re gion of Rheims and Sens as far as Berry (937), and devastated Lorraine, Champagne, and Burgundy (954).

@Joker_Voorhees 8 ай бұрын

@gasenjoyer...4594 I don't think he's Arab. Arabs and Turks don't like each other

@citizencyclops406 2 жыл бұрын

Hang in there Nick

@markmorris7123 2 жыл бұрын

It really saddens me that's you guys across the pond have to set up go fund me pages when you get really sick. Keep fighting the fight nick, hope you get better soon

@szalard 2 жыл бұрын

Well it is hard to believe what mr Razib Khan said, that some very few conquerors came, and impose their language on the mass of common people of very different origin. The "magyarizing", in the medieval times of a huge number of people through a very small numbered elite has no example in the world history. Quite the opposite happened! Look at Bulgarians, where the Turkic elite assimilated in the Slavic majority, or the French, where the Germanic elite assimilated in the Latin speaking majority, or the Russians, where the Viking elite assimilated into the Slavic majority, or the English, where the French speaking elite assimilated into the Germanic speaking majority. And the examples go on: the Germanic Ostrogots, Longobards in Italy, the Germanic Visigoths and Suevians in the Iberic peninsula, or Byzantium, where the Roman elites assimilated into the Greek majority, all assimilated in the majority populations. Never happened in the opposite way. What Ragib said is impossible, because in medieval times there were no ways for a minority elite to culturally and linguitically assimilate a majority of other ethnicity. In the modern times this can be possible because it was the education, church, mass media which can help them to do this. But in the medieval times in Hungary or in the other parts of Europe, the education and church the used language was Latin. There was no mass media to influence the people to learn Hungarian. Furthermore, Hungarian is one of the hardest languages in the world! How could a little group enforce such a language on millions of people, without using education, church and mass media, because in the medieval times all was in Latin? The Hungarian historians and geneticists today suppose that the small numbered Hungarian conquerors met in Hungary a huge mass of Hungarian speaking people, who were maybe already the majority there. Different Frankish, Italian sources from before 895, when the Magyar conquerors came, speak about a certain "Wangar" people which were the inhabitants of the Carpathian Basin. From this name comes the name Hungarian, which all the European nations are using in various forms for Magyars. These Wangars were a group of the Avar empire which dominated the Carpathian Basin starting with the 6th century. These researchers say that originally these Wangars spoke the Hungarian language. Some say that the Magyar conquerors were not speaking Hungarian, but the people they found there. This is more plausible. Other researchers, among them even some foreigners, like the Italian Michelangelo Naddeo, say that in fact the original inhabitants of the Carpathian Basin, starting with the antiquity were Hungarian speakers, who made the different conquering peoples who took over the region, to learn their language, and this is why the Hungarian language is the language of the Hungarians.

@gustory1186 2 жыл бұрын

How about the arabization of large parts of the world? Isn’t that an example of conquerors spreading their language in pre modern times?

@szalard 2 жыл бұрын

@@gustory1186 The difference is that they came with a religion and writing, which they imposed on others. And not to forget: those who wanted to make a carreer, they had to convert to Islam, and with this to use Arabic. And more and more people chose Arabic to progress, and leave the position of second class citizens. Arabic was the language of a dominant religion, culture and the administration. The Magyars did not imposed any religion, writing, and after Christianisation, the Latin became the language of the administration, religion and culture. This is why they could not impose their language on huge masses.

@gustory1186 2 жыл бұрын

@@szalard Fair enough. Do you think there is a genetic continuum between the conquerors and modern hungarians?

@szalard 2 жыл бұрын

@@gustory1186 I am not very into genetics, but as I read, todays Hungarians differ from the conquering 7 tribes, with more so called European genes, which proove what I said, that the Hungarian was spoken in the Carpathic Basin, before they arrived. The fact which shows that the Hsiung nu were 50 % - 50 % European and Mongoloid, and that from these European type Huns the White Huns came, who became part of the Uar-Chunni (Avar) confederation which ruled the territory of Hungary 250 years 80 years before the Magyar conquest, make probable that the White Hun Chunnis where those who spoke Hungarian. My guess.

@KingCatsTube 2 жыл бұрын

@@szalard I agree that the pre-Magyar Afold population had some knowledge of a similar language such as the language of the Avars/Huns. Although, I believe the majority of the population were descendence of a mixture of north Thracian, Scytho-Sarmatian, Celtic, Germanic, and especially Slavic peoples. These pre-Magyar peoples would have constituted the majority population.

@rsknol 2 жыл бұрын

This sounds like what Imre Boba said in his book

@billdehappy1 2 жыл бұрын

may god make he be well again and he can return

@amirhanabatamurmahkto9373 3 ай бұрын

Atila the Hun. He was Korean King named “”GwangGeto Dewang “””of Kuri (kori ==Kogureo). Kingdom Magyar was also sub-tribe of Kuri kingdim who mostly nomad ppl

@mikloskeresztes4273 Жыл бұрын

The authentic historical source: a Hungarian Pictorial Chronicle, which is now almost 100 percent confirmed by the latest archegenetical studies.

@VicaCica72 Жыл бұрын

@علي يا سر kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4eWp2aoq7WFnKc

@chriswanger284 Жыл бұрын

There are no proof for neo-latin speakers in the Carpathian basin in the time when Hungarians arrived. You forget the Cuman migration too. Cumans had separate identity in Hungary until the 1960s.

@georgepooploslovesme9227 Жыл бұрын

They were speaking about 1 group of Hungarians the Magyars..

@chriswanger284 Жыл бұрын

@@georgepooploslovesme9227 What are you talking about? Magyar = Hungarian. Magyar is an endonym Hungarian as an exonym, similar to German is an exonym and Deutsch is an endonym. Do you also consider Deutsch people different than German people?

@michaelreeves6441 5 ай бұрын

It fitts the Orea linda book.

@claesvanoldenphatt9972 2 жыл бұрын

It’s pronounced ‘modjor’ in their language.

@childabductioninitaly8946 Ай бұрын

The 17 scientists asked the question: The aboriginal population of Europe, in what proportion are the ancient European genes present in the sons of various peoples living today? The ancestral gene, which means nothing more than the genetic code of people living here 35 - 40 thousand years before Christ, which peoples of the European population carry the highest proportion? In Hungarian, the question can be asked as follows: who are the indigenous population of Europe? The test is carried out by determining the Y chromosome. The male chromosome can be better researched because it can be determined from any cell fragment. An intact mitochondrion is required for the female chromosome test. The result is astonishing. Based on Y chromosome research, this group of scientists found that the European ancestor is present in 95% of the population living here in the truncated Hungary today. This means that 95% of the Hungarian population carries proto-European genes. It is at least as interesting as to what proportion of the other European populations carry the European ancestral gene? Who carries the European ancestral gene in a high percentage after the Hungarians? The Poles, the Croats and the Ukrainians beyond the Eastern Carpathians. (50-60 %) The other ethnic groups do not carry the European ancestral gene even in a fraction" Renowned geneticist Dr. Endre Czeizel Genetics of Hungarians c. in his book, he writes about the conclusions that can be drawn from the Semino study: "60% of Hungarian men are descendants of the EU-19 - Paleolithic - ancestor. ...A further 13.3% of Hungarian men are from the EU-18, 11% a is EU-7, and 8.9% are descendants of EU-4 ancestor. All this means that 93.3% of current Hungarian men originate from four ancestors, and 73.3% already here in the Paleolithic era the offspring of living men." Given the outstanding importance of this study, the names and locations of all its authors are published below: Ornella Semino,1,2 Giuseppe Passarino,2,3 Peter J. Oefner,4 Alice A. Lin,2 Svetlana Arbuzova,5 Lars E. Beckman,6 Giovanna De Benedictis,3 Paolo Francalacci,7 Anastasia Kouvatsi,8 Svetlana Limborska,9 Mladen Marcikiae,10 Anna Mika,11 Barbara Mika,12 Dragan Primorac,13 A. Silvana Santachiara-Benerecetti,1 L. Luca Cavalli-Sforza,2 Peter A .Underhill2 The Genetic Legacy of Paleolithic Homo sapiens sapiens in Extant Europeans: A Y Chromosome Perspective; SCIENCE VOL 290. NOVEMBER 10, 2000. ----------------------------------- Prof. Grover S. Krantz Geographical development of European languages "... the Greek language, therefore, was present in 6500 BC, Celtic language was born in 3500 BC in Ireland. The greatness of the Hungarian language in the Carpathian Basin is equally surprising; I find that its origin leads to the mesolithic, before the Stone Age. "

@childabductioninitaly8946 Ай бұрын

You can see below that until the 18th century, the Hungarians and the whole of Europe knew that the Hungarians were the Huns and the Scythians. The Hungarian chronicles also confirm this. Chronicles are made for kings and lying to a king is dangerous. The chronicler can easily lose his head. So the chronicler wrote the truth. (But they did not yet know the Finno-Ugric theory or the Turkic-Onoguric theory.)

@GaraYusufbey 3 ай бұрын

@Atilla963 Жыл бұрын

Magyar, or Hungary(Huns/Hungaria), are 100% Turks. But Turks, who still lived further as christian Turks, they never chose Islam. Ukraine has also 3 big Turkic tribes, blond/brown haired white skinned christian Turks, who still speak our old language. How beautiful. They never forgot who they are and say still we are Turks. My grandpa from my mothers side is Macar(we Turks say it like this). You say Magyar. His family left Europe because of war, that's what he remembers. Centuries ago he said. My fathers side is from Caucausia, Iraq, then Anatolia. My fathers root joined the Anatolian Turks around 1750. We are 100% Turkic. No doubt. Török(Hungarian i think) is also Türük like Turks say. (Whole Europe was Turukki empire in 4000B.C.), Türük/Török means this; Tör-Ök or Tür-Ük. Ök is being changed to Ük with Turks in the east. Tür = Kind, like humankind. Ök(Ük) = OK is also arrow, And Ök look also like Gök(Heaven). So you can see this as symbolic with the 'arrow' pointing in the air and 'Tür' as the kind of people(Turks) on the earth as a circle. So circle(earth), and the arrow pointing in the sky), telling through this word, the mitoloji of the Turks. That we are the humankind that came from the heavens to earth. Türük/Török = The Turks from heaven. Our mitoloji says we are from outside this world. [ This is a MAYAN TABLET translated ] : "Black robes who will attack without getting tired The god who will protect the children of those who come from the sky Two silver-clad stars that will rise on the mainland surrounded by water on three sides MAYA TABLETS" -It refers to Anatolia surrounded by 3 seas. The Turks left hundreds to thousands of Turkic words there in Mexico, they describe the Turks that came with ships. They came through the Mediterranean Sea (Tyrhennia sea, y=u, Turhannia), these are the Sea People who are also described by Greeks, Egyptians, Europeans. Mycanaeans, Minoans. Who use our fish letter 'M' in their decorations. That's the Orhun alphabet letter 'M' for their names. Etruscan, Troy, Scythians, Pelasgians, Hittits, Frygians(My village is called Pirikli/Firikli, li is a referring to someones roots, like -an, in Americ-an, looks like Fryg, Firik). There is also not a Greek civilization, but Turkic. Herodotus wrote about these Turks, nomads and deacribed how they lived and who they were, he was a Greek scholar around 400B.C. and he writes, "he travelled" to Anatolia. This means Greeks were definetly not there in 400B.C. and back. Don't forget your roots, we all are not the same as European people and don't come from here, you belong like me to the Turkic family. We are the people of Mu. We are the Turkics who brought civilization to the world. They describe us that we came here to Europe. My grandpa from mothers side, his family came to Anatolia because there was a war in Europe against Turks. In this way the Huns dissapeared (300A.D.), there was an Avar Empire in Central Europe (500-800A.D.) also dissapeared, they also went to Anatolia. Many Turks left Europe. The ones left over are assimilated here in the European region and live forth as christians like the Turkics also were. Christianity is a religion brought by Turkics to the west. And Turkics are described by Mayans and chinese (also others), as Blond hair, white skin, Brown hair white skin, Black hair, white skin, Black hair brown skin. With different colors eyes, green, blue, brown. Turkics are not 1 race, we are the folks who inhabited the continent Mu. And spread from there to the whole world. All religions are Turkic, and all prophets all Turkic. They all come from Noah --> Yafes. We Turks come from Yafes. Mozes, Jesus, Muhammed all come from the Turkic bloodline, Noah --> Yafes --> then Abraham. Don't believe the yudean semites, they are not the jewisch folk. The line of Abraham and Sara where Mozes comes from is Turkic. Because semites, yudeans, arabs don't come from Yafes. Now the folk of which Sara comes from claims everything. That Abraham is their grandfather. While Abraham is not Sara's father but husband, and Abraham is also not the father of Sara's family, and not the father of Sara's folk. This means they are not from Abraham. And the racial etnic jewisch folk never existed,100% not. They made this up in the times of Mozes. From Mozes to Abraham there is 900/1000years between it. Abraham named his creator Kenger, that comes from Tengir, Tingir, Dingir. It all means Tengri, the old Turkic 1 creator religion before all these Abrahamistic religions. These religions are continuations of all the religions from the same creator. And there were 12 tribes that were jew in the same time periods, Yudea existed near Isrealsons, and there were 10 jewisch tribes back then. So who is the jew? They referred to Mozes his bloodline, thus Turkics. Not yudeans or whatever. And the Sumerians are Turkic, this is the region of the cradle of civilization. The Turkic language, and their dna is the closest to Turks. In Anatolia and Azerbaycan. That's why these yudeans say your mother has to be jew to be jew, they actually mean, you need to have the Turkic blood to be jew. That's the condition to be a real jew. And that folk of Sara don't come out of Sara? Sara has just their roots. If they all are jew, than all other tribes are also jew!!!! And the heritage of Abraham is not for these jews? No for his own offspring. Why should he give his heritage to other people. The holylands in total are the heritage of all Turks. All offspring of Abraham. The children of Sara, the children of Hacer and the children of Kanturah. These are all Turkic, and line of Mozes and Muhammed are half Turkic/semite and half Turkic arab. But they lived in those periods between all these people. It doesn't make a Turkic folk suddenly jew or arab when they marry 1 Sara or 1 Hacer. - David Erwin Jr - Tartaria - History is a lie - Gene D. Matlock - What Strange Mystery Unites the Turkish Nations, India, Catholicism, and Mexico? - Prof. Dr. Cengiz Karaşarlı - The Lost Turkic Civilization in the Mediteranean Sea. - Atatürk - The Sun Language - Jack Churchward - The Stone Amulets of Mu - Jack Churchward - The Children of Mu - George Tomkins - The Times of Abraham - Ahmet Reyiz Yılmaz - Bir Ibrahim Kavgası (An Abraham Fight) - between Turks and Jews. Dna and language translations of tablets of the last centuries proved that Turks are right. - Özgür Barış Etli - Sahte Sarışın (Fake blond) - Hüseyin Hakkı Kahveci - Atatürkün Yasaklanan Kitabı (Atatürks Forbidden Book)

@mikloskeresztes4273 Жыл бұрын

OK. If we are 100% Turkish, do you know anything about why our language differs? I heard that there are many common words in the two languages. But it's still a different language family .

@nukhetyavuz 9 ай бұрын

r1a is not iranian descendent,the scythians had probably taken it to afghanistan,and from there to iran,and india... also for more hungarian ancient history read gesta hungarorum❤