Mainline Dean Goods : Repair Request

[@DaiElsan]

I'm pretty sure I've got one or two Mainline Dean locos. This is a very worthwhile video. Thank you Bill.

[@thecolonel-l8m]

G'day from Australia. Absolutely enjoy all your videos Bill. Keep up the good work.

[@arius1]

"Just ignore the noise but enjoy the power". Spoken like a true megalomaniac. 🥊

[@eddyweller4503]

Good job bill, that was a bit challenging your very patient and good at sorting out these problems, well done you. Take care Eddy xx

[@kevinwilliams1602]

Thank you very much Bill, I've got all sorts of things that might be useful someday, I'll have a sort out for anything in the way of loco bits for you

[@oobill]

No probs. She'll be on her way back on Monday. Any spares are most welcome thanks.

[@timgray3491]

Another great job Bill you are the master with superglue, those parts are incredibly small.

[@johnmassey7687]

nice repair I like the tip about the black tack/super glue and baking powder

[@SoRTs6233]

Another good one, Bill. Even though it's not of your favourites, all credit to you for still giving your best! Great runner at the end. Cheers, Jim L

[@paulcherrytrains3339]

Great repair. I have the Hornby version basically the same. A bit noisy but I have great fun running it. Thanks for showing. Regards Paul.

[@robinforrest7680]

Bill goes Great Western! You might not be able to justify a Dean Goods in Scotland, but you could have a GWR pannier tank. I believe BR sent a few to Scotland. Another enjoyable video. Rob PS just found this by « 14D » on the LNER forum: « There were two 'most northerly' pannier tanks: Nos. 1646 and 1649. 1646 was moved from Croes Newydd to 60C Helmsdale, in February 1957 to replace a Highland Railway 0-4-4T that for decades, had worked the Dornoch - Mound branch line but irreparably broke a driving axle. To allow for a spare engine 1649 moved to Helmsdale from Bristol St.Philips Marsh shed in July 1958. When not used on the Dornoch branch the tanks were usually found at Helmsdale where they did shunting, that duty sometimes extending to Dingwall. After closure of the Dornoch line in June 1960 the two panniers undertook random other work - for example, shunting at Inverness - such duties being maintained until the duo moved to 63A Perth shed with an official transfer date of August 1962. Both were placed in store there, being formally withdrawn on 29th December 1962, but remained at 63A until at least September 1963 before moving to the ex-NBR Works at Cowlairs for scrapping. There are countless online pictures of this pair of exiles north of the Border, at work and at rest. » So there you go, 16XX 0-6-0PT’s in Scotland !

[@oobill]

Interesting. I could re-livery my GWR Pannier to BR and number it 1646. I really need to get my airbrush working. Thanks for that.

[@robinforrest7680]

@@oobill depends if it’s a 57XX or not. The16XX were quite a bit smaller. You could always imagine they exported a 57XX and autocoach to run your branch line.

[@111greatbear3]

I've been waiting for this for a long time

[@kleedhamhobby]

Peter's Spares does have replacement gears for the Mainline split chassis models. I replaced the gears and axles on one of my Mainline Royal Scots with a set from Peter's Spares. The Mainline gears were pretty poor, as you say, so they can definitely need to be replaced. When Bachmann took over the Mainline toolings, they fitted much better gears.

[@robstrains8711]

The early Bachmann where no better as they used the same parts. It wasn't until they started retooling that they improved the parts.

[@kleedhamhobby]

@@robstrains8711 That's not exactly true. Well, it depends what you mean by 'retooling'. I have Bachmann models that still have the split chassis and still have the same basic body casting as the Mainline version, but which have much better motor and gears - the same basic configuration, but the gears are better made, wider and more solid, and the motor is better. The Mainline gears were narrow and not made from very good material, so they tended to wear badly. Bachmann did fix that, at least in the Bachmann split chassis models that I have (Jubilees, Royal Scots).

[@oobill]

The very, very early Bachmann ones are the same but they very quickly redesigned in new motors and gears that are infinitely better. They called this their "Super Smooth Fly Wheel Gear Drive Motor" and published this on the boxes. They run fine and are worth buying and servicing with replacement axles. Also the crank pins unscrew on these Bachmanns unlike the Mainline ones that have to be pulled and never fit as well after refitting. I wouldn't buy a split chassis Mainline loco but have two Bachmanns and would happily buy others.

[@ausfoodgarden]

It's good to see you do stupid things sometimes like I do. A great tip on using black tac to hold those handrails in place while gluing. 👍

[@oobill]

We all do stupid things. I make a point of keeping any stupid things I do in my videos. Most of the time.....

[@PaulinesPastimes]

A good reminder for myself not to be seduced by the nice detail and looks and buy one of these. Excellent repair. ✔

[@pedalcarguy]

Good job on this one, Bill! I have quite a few split chassis locos of different makes, and they can be a pain to fix. I have been able to 3D print gears for them. Also for the plastic middle sections of the wheels that are usually split. Often the split chassis bearing surfaces are so worn that bushings have to be fitted for the wheel axles. A project not for the faint of heart. Is it worth the effort? No. It is just my way to enjoy this hobby.

[@gerardburton3741]

Hi Bill, yes it would still have some gears, But you would be able to get rid of the 3 gears in the motor itself. As Hornby eventually took over production of this model, did they ever fit a Ringfield motor or just keep using the original one.

[@dj_efk]

Interesting - Do you have a link to an article / web page that has details of your bushing solution for the axle wells? I’ve recently been fixing a load of Mainline steam locos and I do think they are lovely to look at but poor quality in this area - the likes of Peter’s spares etc. are missing a trick there as that would solve a lot of the inherent flaws in the split chassis design execution.

[@pedalcarguy]

@@dj_efk I am starting a new channel this fall covering these kinds of problems. I will let you know when I get there.

[@farmerdave7965]

Pretty work, Bill. Carry on.

[@Finnertoncentralmodelrailway]

I think we all have a spares box ,I'm not a fan of mainline products for the same reason but they do look nice.

[@ModelRailwayShed]

Another great job Bill 👍

[@stephenb9400]

Well bill at the beginning you told that puppy who's in charge

[@guyclark2975]

That Mainline motor looks a proper nightmare. Was wondering if it could be swapped out with a Hornby Ringfield motor somehow. Great video as always.

[@TheAntisocialTrain]

One would be hard pushed to do that, those mainline motors are smaller than you think. It could be done with significant reductions in weight over the wheels (on paper it works), but I wouldn't think it'd be worth it

[@stewartclark1847]

Another brilliant display of your master abilities. Have had look a Mainline locos on eBay, on your advice I’ll give them a miss.

[@oobill]

Unless it's a model of a specific loco you can't get any other way and you're happy with noise and lack of spares then yes. Don't touch them!

[@ВалерийФилиппов-д8о]

Very good lokomotiv and video. 👍 🤝

[@michaeldavies9600]

Another brilliant job Bill you should start another channel up fixing watches and clocks haha!

[@railway187]

It's got a nice appearance, but the technical side of it is rather daunting. How easy and logical is Lima, compared to this. 😊

[@chrisbarnett8180]

I have the same gear missing in mine which is in mint condition. What kind of motor is this so can look for one for spear's.

[@nicholasbishop3300]

Lovely repair job there Bill Nick Australia

[@kellypaws]

Bill, love the videos. Can you maybe take a step back and think about the goods shed? To me, it kind of overwhelms the centre of the layout, and looks a bit out of scale the the rest of the buildings. I know it isn't, it just looks a bit off to me.

[@robstrains8711]

All of them had one gear missing including the Hornby models which is why they sold out so quick as people bought the spares just to put the missing gear back.

[@cameron5063]

Love your vids, when you run the locos could you run them round the branch line bit , it’s my fave part of the layout

[@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204]

good vid on fixing on the train thanks lee

[@johndrew3202]

Nice one Bill! I have 1 loco with that type of motor and it was a nightmare to dismantle, so much so that I haven't rebuild the loco/tender and now run it as a pilot engine. Having seen your demonstration I might have another try with it. I find all these 'older' engines are a challenge, but sometimes easy fixed and they do, often, run beautifully and look more authentic than the Hornby of a similar age. Have you done a strip of an early Hornby M7 (4-4-0)? I am trying to sort one out bought for me about 45 years ago. It always seems to be shorting out.

[@oobill]

Nope. Not done any M7 yet but keep watching.

[@gerardburton3741]

Hi Bill, Yet again another old engine saved from the scrapyard. With all that gearing, I wonder how this engine would take to having a CD motor in it if it was possible. Thanks for another entertaining video.

[@oobill]

I don't think there is a kit for this motor bogie. Not sure it would make much difference though. It would still have the gears. It might actually run worse!

[@garethparkin9498]

Nice that Bill

[@AdiPullen]

Hi Bill Hope you are well and enjoying the heatwave? I never knew that mainline did a tender driven loco. Great fix Keep safe arp

[@oobill]

Neither did I to be honest till I was sent this. What I want to know now is is there a shunter with this motor bogie? Cos if there is I'm having it.

[@AdiPullen]

@@oobill off the top of my head the only comes to mind is triang dick shunter as it was also in triang dmus

[@dj_efk]

I believe this is an Airfix model that Mainline took over the tooling for, as the tender-drive motor and permanent loco connection setup look identical to an Airfix LMS 4F 0-6-0 I have.

[@derekloudon8731]

You superglued the body screw in !!

[@oobill]

No. I used superglue to repair the stripped hole for the screw. Pour some into the hole and let it set. Then the screw will self tap into the hole.

[@mikesrailwaygrestybrook]

Hi we’re do get the molly Greece from