mainspring compressor update #4, The magical plastic electrical conduit mainspring compressor (ECMC)

[@gulfcoastflyfishing8458]

I was just about to be on my way to Home Depot to get a couple things to make a spring compressor outta the steel rods. I am so glad you posted this today - turns out I have everything to make the one shown here at home. Excited to get the cobalt spring and 7/64 air tube installed. Love plinking with a RR! Thanks to your channel for making me realize there were upgrades to the Red Ryder! Have a good one Shane, thanks a lot for your information.

[@RestOModDaisy]

Good to hear I saved you a trip. Plus you now have more money to spend on mods, Win Win!

[@eddiejennejr4342]

Thank you thank you thank you for that information that helps me out a lot. I am reliving my youth with better tools. And modified BB guns and modified pellet rifles. It’s fun because it saves my centerfire ammunition for other things that I’m going to need it for.

[@paulbarrett3361]

Thank you for telling what the main soring compressor was made out of,thanks again you e made my nephew a very happy kid.

[@modelnutty6503]

I like that double barrel rubber band gun! :)

[@RestOModDaisy]

You could use it for that, maybe.

[@modelnutty6503]

@@RestOModDaisy it reminded me of the old Beverly Hillbillies joke to put it in those words, looks really nice tho!

[@LowkeyAirgunner]

Can I make mine shoot rubberbands? Id like to know how to make the conversion. [Maybe I should just look how bad Id get ripped off on shipping the cobalt357 kit to canada haha...but I am legit scared after seing 40$ to ship a tin of pellets]

[@blackbarrelcustoms3704]

Wow CaptJoe compressor is a very nice fit. I currently use a standard rod setup on a dowel. After this vid I think I may have to upgrade 😅. No more knuckle scrappin captain! I'm really digging that pistol grip also. Great vid!

[@genarosanchez3918]

Gracias por la explicación fue muy gratificante 😇

[@RestOModDaisy]

You're welcome!

[@mistercapnjoe]

Bless you, videographer! Neat little tool you made, Shane! Love the pistol grip. Something about it just clicks. Taking a gun apart with another gun is so apropos. I think I may still give a go to the plunger casing tool I envisioned. I'll cut the casing just where the legs begin or end... then bend them to fit around the crimps. Very similar to your design with the pistol grip, only utilizing an actual Daisy part to effect the decompression. I'll mount it to something, maybe a broomstick. I'm glad you like the tool. I found the conduit in the trash. I'm not too proud to scrounge! Keep modding and keep putting out these great videos.

[@RestOModDaisy]

Go for it, I bet if we try we can make at least a dozen different mainspring compressors, did you read the Harbor Freight screw driver compressor description in the comments?

[@mistercapnjoe]

@@RestOModDaisy Yes... I saw that. It left me wondering which harbor was holding the freight. It ain't a Californian harbor. Last I heard our illustrious governor, RonDi, told them to bring it on down and over to snowbirdville. There's no shortage of cheap goods at the local sprawlmart! I will give my idea one day, after crafting, to prove it's mettle. Then it moves to the round file. If ya know what I mean. I might reread Dune. See if I can weird the spring forward and extract the anchor with my mind. It's worth a shot! The sleeper has awakened, my man.

[@modelnutty6503]

@@mistercapnjoe the books are so much better! (aren't they always?) may the Schwartz be with you.

[@georgethayer3533]

Hi Shane I make the spring compressor out of the 1/2 steel strap it works pretty good I had to do a little grinding on it to get it to slide past the the end of the plunger before I could hit the spring I still got to grind it down a little bit more but it does work very well. Thank you my friend

[@RestOModDaisy]

George, I have trimming and profiling my pistol gripped compressor trying to tweak it so it'll work better on the 90 degree twin post plunger assemblies. I've put a smallish bend on the tips so they'll engage the mainspring and discovered that giving the back plate studs a few love taps to reduce thier height is quite helpful.

[@musketman54]

Another awesome “how to video”. Thanks for sharing your knowledge of these great guns that’s still bringing smiles to kids and adults faces.

[@RestOModDaisy]

Thanks Musket Man!

[@eddiejennejr4342]

Wow! That’s amazing I had to make a tool out of two screwdrivers that I cut the tips off of. It’s sketchy but it seem to work. I use that to install this new high powered spring that I found. You know Ebay. And it works amazingly well. Yes the BB gun is not for small children now. As it hits very hard like a 177 pellet rifle.

[@RestOModDaisy]

I never thought about using screwdrivers in tandem. How did you hook that up? The conduit tool is a bit easier to make and works really well with the current production guns. Have fun!

[@eddiejennejr4342]

Well I saw your two prong tool and I figured I could cut the tips off of two small really long Phillips number one screwdrivers for Harbor freight and I used my little die grinder to concave the end instead of leaving it flat. And it held OK when it held and I was able to install the increased power spraying for the current production red Ryder BB gun’s. And wow do they work Wonderful with that new spring.

[@RestOModDaisy]

@@eddiejennejr4342 I might have to build one of those Harbor Freight mainspring compressors! I've got a grinder and I'm not afraid to use it.

[@modelnutty6503]

@@RestOModDaisy straightened 5 gallon bucket handle wire unit has been very good, handle is a 4" cut off end of a toilet plunger. improvised with what was already here after seeing your video, thanks!

[@cobalt327]

Super useful video- keep up the great work!

[@moparmusts]

Another great video

[@jerrywilliams5741]

One added feature that sometimes comes in handy on one of these spring compressors is a shield to protect your pushing hand when the tool slips off of the spring. When that happens, you sometimes get a hand full of sharp receiver parts jammed into your pushing hand fingers and it hurts. It should look kinda like the hand end of Zorro's sword.

[@inthebackyardwithdel438]

Hey Restromod , I’m 61 and found my old daisy . It is a model no 799.19011 sears roebuck and co . Black bear . The reg. No. j725798 . I can’t find anywhere if I can still get parts for this BB gun. I’ve also looked up the year on the gun but not sure . Any help would be appreciated sir . Thank you Del

[@RestOModDaisy]

Del, Congrats onj recovering your leagacy Daisy. Sears contracted with Daisy to build some of thier "store" brands. If your Sears "Bear" gun has a stenciled Bear on both sides of the reciever and does not have a magazine tube under the barrel then it's most likley a Daisy built in Rodgers AR post 1958. All of your internal parts are readily available from several different sources, NOS replacment parts like stocks are hard to come by in good condition. Does it shoot? Your reg # indicates a build date of September of 1977.

[@treadmillrepair754]

I habe an old Red Ryder, I not sure if is working. I want to buy the aluminiun loader. Excellent video.

[@Close-Hunter]

Hello I hope you're having a great day 🙂 I don't know but I think the secret to more velocity in the daisy is the compression chamber losing some pressure whether it be the the abutment seal or the new Daisy when it's seal assembly and tube coming apart somewhere there in the compression or even the chamber itself being metal put together must be losing some pressure or gaining some with some rubberized sealant in both new or old seals in the back part towards the seals have you ever tried it to see if it actually works to bring up FPS performance not by changing the spring tension with a higher spring but just improving the chamber of compression Thank you very much for your hard work in making the videos Have a great day good health to you and your family🙂

[@RestOModDaisy]

Bill, I think you're right and have recently been in communication with another Daisy enthusiast that installs a brass liner in the compression chamber to preclude any compression losses there along with machined compression cups with O ring seals. Hopefully that'll be productive and user installable.

[@modelnutty6503]

I've had nice results super cleaning (acetone and alcohol) then heating the body to 250 degrees for properly applying FrogLube to the cylinder walls and shot tube, about 175 degrees for the spring+plunger parts, the 3 I've treated all gained about 10-11% fps doing nothing else. the stuff also prevents rust, might be great for sealing+shining a fire blued gun's exterior, might take 2 drops worth total (its a paste) because it spreads so far on warmed metal... to do the whole body inside and out maybe 3 drops worth at most. its intended use is real firearms to make sliding parts super smooth slippery. same idea, its just using it for the compression cylinder the seal rides against, and reducing friction down the shot tube.

[@wadedog4280]

What are the dimensions of the new tube . I need to make one of those

[@RestOModDaisy]

Check the description for build info.

[@turnyhead]

Will the plastic electrical conduit spring compressor work on a 1938 Red Ryder Carbine? I think it was made Oct '76 if I read the numbers right.

[@RestOModDaisy]

Itshould, you might have to trim the tang ends thickness wise to get around the backplate tabs but the plastic is easy to work with.

[@turnyhead]

@@RestOModDaisy I thought I had some electrical conduit or at least some Pex, but it turns out I had the wrong size. I finally just made one with some 1/8" welding rod and a scrap of Cherry. Worked fine!

[@daisylevergunfun4786]

For current model Daisy's I find using a piece of half inch galvanized pipe works best. The wall is thick and strong. I posted a description a while back on the Daisy Museum Forum.

[@RestOModDaisy]

How much profiling do you have to do on the prongs?

[@richforestall1459]

Someone gave me a 1105 that had been sitting in there shed and then in the corner if my garage, It was pretty rusty so I hit it with PB Blaster and sure enough it fired. Then I saw your videos and made a spring compressor out of 2 rods it worked great. I cleaned it up inside and put it back together and oiled it thru the oil port on the barrel with either RWS spring cylinder oil or Air chamber lube. Was it OK to use either of these?

[@HCRRClub]

I will make a conduit model and try it. I have some cutoffs in my basement. Is there a certain depth to cut into the conduit? Looked like 2”-3”. What works best?

[@rossdaniels3519]

What size electrical conduit was that?

[@WalnutandSteel]

I made an electric conduit compressor first and it was too thick for my 70’s daisy’s. So I just made a welding stick compressor.

[@richforestall1459]

Will it work on the adult 1938ARR?

[@RestOModDaisy]

Certainly. The receiver for the 1938ARR is exactly the same as the Model 1938B as well as the Model 105B and the Daisy Model 10 as well as the Model 1999. The 1938ARR's claim to fame is a slightly longer butt stock.

[@manufakcture870]

Спасибо за видео

[@RestOModDaisy]

Russian? Turkish?

[@manufakcture870]

@@RestOModDaisy Ukrainian

[@manufakcture870]

@@RestOModDaisy language Russian

[@Segafishy]

Hello Shane, do you know roughly what the conduit tool would be in Metric? Whilst theres old stuff about in imperial/US sizing it's harder to come by with most stores only carrying Metric sizing of conduit. I'll email again later incase it got sent to junk with my username here as the subject, with any luck I'll hopefully have the upgrade of my Daisy done by Halloween.

[@RestOModDaisy]

My cheezy chinese micrometer says O/D is 21.52 mm, I/D is 15.40 mm and wall thickness is 3.28 mm. I have no idea if that's metric standard or not. Good luck on your build!

[@Segafishy]

@@RestOModDaisy I think it's close enough, theres 20,25 and 30mm listed so if I can match one close enough it should work, cheers for that

[@christopherhayto1089]

i brought a 1938b in the uk it has a metal handle from factory not steel but has weight to it, not plastic though

[@pauljimenez3996]

Sir I was wondering if u can please send me a main spring compression I'm really having a hard time making one for my bb guns

[@olroymtbetc.6117]

Ok, I've watched the video multiple times. I have read the description several times as well. I want to know how you got 3/4" pvc electrical conduit to fit??? I used what I had on hand, 1/2" plumbing pvc. 12" chunk, I made the "fingers" 2 1/4" long, a little precession filing and it's done, and works well. Somebody mismeasured or didn't read what it says on the pvc. Just so everybody is on the same page, pvc, electrical or plumbing, is measured by it's inside dimension, Not the outside dimension. Kind of an important detail. Not trolling, just sayin ...

[@RestOModDaisy]

Roy, It was me, I measured the OD, not the ID, and that is an important bit of info. Nice catch and thanks for the notification, I'll edit the description but the audio will have to suffer. MTB... Motor Torpedo Boat?

[@olroymtbetc.6117]

@@RestOModDaisy MTB=mountain bike, but your acronym is better! No disrespect intended big guy, just trying to keep up, lol. As a construction tradesman all my life, carpentry, electrical, plumbing, painting, concrete, surveying, etc., I have all kinds of left over bits and pieces. Other hobbies can overlap with materials, tools and such as well. So, fabrication is fairly easy for me. I do have to say, electrical pvc is probably superior to plumbing pvc, in this application. Plumbing pvc has no ultraviolet blockers, so, it will get brittle if/when exposed to sunlight. That being said, and for the sake of argument, I made mine from plumbing pvc, 1/2". Schedule 40, same goes for electrical pvc. Schedule 80 has thicker walls, same id, larger od. Replaced original spring & air tube, in a new buck 105, with a 7/64 air tube & 499 spring from Mark, (cobalt327), for my neighbor's kids. My tool worked surprisingly well, and the kids loved the results. Got another buck 105 on the bench now. Waiting on Mark's package deal, hp spring/metal handle/7/64 tube, for install. So, the pvc compression tool you show and use in your video, is a greatly appreciated concept.

[@RestOModDaisy]

@@olroymtbetc.6117 Glad to be of service. Cap'n Joe down in Florida that sent one to me as a result of the old two prong video I did a while back. It's always surprises me how much aggregate knowledge is floating around Daisy Land. Mark's $15 dollar Daisy thread got me into modding Daisy's and it's been great.

[@pauljimenez3996]

Sir can u sell me one spring compreser

[@RestOModDaisy]

What model Daisy are you working on? The current production guns (post 1978) are the easiest to make a compressor for. Most folks do build thier own and I don't know of anybody, including me, that offers one for sale.

[@pauljimenez3996]

I have a 1938 red ryder and a couple of 105 bucks u see I'm trying to put new springs on my bb guns